16 GB TouchPad for $99, 32 GB TouchPad $150 Starting tomorrow

[Drachen]

Drac: A few things I'm not clear on from reading that and doing the fixes:

1) Do you always keep the "Developer Mode" on, even after you're done with the fixes?

2) Do you have to do anything after installing the patches or if you did the little re-starts, should you be good to go, because I know that browsing history one doesn't seem to be working because it's continuing to save my searches.

Edit: I figured out the private browsing. You have to click on the web drop down once it launches and you can enable it. Turns the search bar red. I'm still not sure about the other fixes though (do I have to do anything for any other ones bc after reading their features, I don't see anything I have to do).

Thanks!
Everything that I have read states that it doesn't matter if you leave it on or not.

[Drachen]

[QUOTE=Drachen;5388864]I am not trying to be mean or anything here, but honestly of all the people here, I probably have had the TP the longest (saturday morning).

Dude I had 5 of them on Friday morning.:) Hp just shipped my sixth 32 gig 133.10 with a pack of paper. :)

Congrats on missing the point of the post.

[GINNNNNNNNNNNNOBILI]

I can't make it tomorrow because of work, but if any of you guys want to try to get to the best buy on 281 and 1604 tomorrow morning, the website shows they have some in stock

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id=pcat17006&type=page&skuId=2842056&searchpage=true&_requestid=143454

[Drachen]

How do you know?

[GINNNNNNNNNNNNOBILI]

sorry.. bad link, I'll try again

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olstemplatemapper.jsp?id=pcat17006&type=page&sourceId=1218062715447&sourceType=product&skuId=2842056&productId=1218062715447&sp=-bestsellingsort+skuid&nrp=15&iht=n&list=y&sc=audioSP&st=processingtime%3A%3E1900-01-01&usc=abcat0200000&ks=960&pageid=pcat17080&listingType=listing&cp=1&qp=q70726f63657373696e6774696d653a3e313930302d3031 2d3031~~cabcat0200000%23%230%23%23vd~~cabcat020100 0%23%230%23%2336~~cabcat0201009%23%230%23%235~~nf3 96||4f6e2053616c65~~nf396||46726565205368697070696 e67&pagetype=page&listflag=true&pageMode=searchmode

[DPG21920]

Everything that I have read states that it doesn't matter if you leave it on or not.

Cool, since we have preware now, you don't have to keep that on in order to do patches? Or do you need to turn it on anytime you want to add things in preware?

Also, do you need to just randomly shut it down and re-start to keep speeds up?

[CubanMustGo]

If you want to run Hulu but are having problems, try these instructions:

http://claptop.com/2011/08/make-hulu-work-on-hp-touchpad/

That inventory checker said there were some in Temple. I thought about making the hour-long drive to check but decided against. There are also supposedly some at the Park Lane store in Dallas, off Central Expressway.

[Heath Ledger]

[QUOTE=Heath Ledger;5389035]

Congrats on missing the point of the post.

im not missing the point of shit. you are not the early adopter king of the touchpad. :)

[Drachen]

[QUOTE=Drachen;5389051]

im not missing the point of shit. you are not the early adopter king of the touchpad. :)

well even though you still missed the point, the bolded part actually IS the point.

[DPG21920]

Are you having any issues on ST since doing the fixes Drac? Sometimes it won't let me post (gives me an error message) and it doesn't show the updated threads (for example, it shows that CubanMustGo made the last post in the thread at 9:24 a.m.). Often times it won't let me see any posts beyond a certain point last night (for example, I see on the thread that CubanMustGo made the last post at 9:24 am which is wrong, but when I click the thread, the last post it goes to is mine that says "thanks drachen! post #241 at 9:12 yesterday).

Any ideas?

[DPG21920]

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[MannyIsGod]

Annoying issue with the browser. The way it draws on the cahced webpage is annoying as shit. Just use the reload button for now. Only fix I know of.

[DPG21920]

Was this only after you did the fixes, Manny? Because before did that, it worked fine.

[Trainwreck2100]

Are you having any issues on ST since doing the fixes Drac? Sometimes it won't let me post (gives me an error message) and it doesn't show the updated threads (for example, it shows that CubanMustGo made the last post in the thread at 9:24 a.m.). Often times it won't let me see any posts beyond a certain point last night (for example, I see on the thread that CubanMustGo made the last post at 9:24 am which is wrong, but when I click the thread, the last post it goes to is mine that says "thanks drachen! post #241 at 9:12 yesterday).

Any ideas?

the pre did that too, so its probably a webos thing

[MannyIsGod]

I havent messed with preware yet

[Creepn]

anymore links to sales? Im not having any luck.

[Drachen]

I haven't had problems yet, though I just received MY touchpad today

[Pistons < Spurs]

Finally got a shipping date from HP (SMB). Supposed to get it on the 6th.

Crossing my fingers!

[Heath Ledger]

i experience some login issues regarding cookies several times using various forums on the touchpad.

the browser is garbage.

[MannyIsGod]

yes. The browser's pretty subpar. Autocorrect on this thing is bad as well.

[CubanMustGo]

Wonder if this is worth the $3, then:

http://www.webosroundup.com/2011/04/review-universe-web-browser-top-pick/

[CubanMustGo]

anymore links to sales? Im not having any luck.

According to SlickDeals the Best Buy shipments are pretty much done.... but then they just posted this in the Best Buy thread: http://www.droidmatters.com/news/best-buy-expecting-more-hp-touchpad-shipments/ which indicates that no, more will be coming and supposedly there will be a form you can fill out to indicate that you want one. We'll see.

One of the resellers (Datavis) claims that HP will be coming out with another batch but at a higher price:
"We believe we will get 1 last shot of them as HP is building more. YES they do cost more than $80-$90 and everyone that HP sold for $99 was a loss. You will get your item AT THE CHEAPER PRICE YOU PAID. The next batch for new orders will be considerably more. We do not know the higher price, but please also keep that in mind when complaining,
HP themselves have said absolutely zip. The @BrynaAtHP twitter account has done nothing but say 'no news today, come back next week.'

I don't know why HP would manufacture more unless they have a shitload of unfinished inventory (screens, CPUs, cases, etc) they're stuck with, because they are losing ~$250 for each unit sold at $99. Parts cost $300, assembly at a China sweat shop is $10, shipping/payment to sellers has to run at least $40. Even if they had this stuff lying around the screens and CPUs could be sold for nearly cost as they are decent quality stuff. Batteries could be kept for spares.

[MannyIsGod]

I can't see that happening.

[MannyIsGod]

Wonder if this is worth the $3, then:

http://www.webosroundup.com/2011/04/review-universe-web-browser-top-pick/

Looks like that's for a phone. Doubt it would run full screen on the TP.

[CubanMustGo]

Sorry. How about some free apps, then?

http://www.webosroundup.com/2011/08/hp-giving-out-free-6-packs-of-apps-to-all-touchpad-owners/

[MannyIsGod]

You bring me expired codes? :(

[Drachen]

Wonder if this is worth the $3, then:

http://www.webosroundup.com/2011/04/review-universe-web-browser-top-pick/

try advanced web browser in the market...... Also 3 dollars but its for the touchpad and looks worth it

[MannyIsGod]

My understanding is that AWB only adds tabbed browsing and pretty much nothing else.

[MannyIsGod]

Finally got around to install preware. Patching now. Thank god for the add download link option patch. Annoying as shit to click on podcast links in the browser and to HAVE to steam them.

[Drachen]

My understanding is that AWB only adds tabbed browsing and pretty much nothing else.

it looks like it does more (remembering login info is nice for example)

[spurs_2108]

i m just glad I finally got one of these. I spent way to much time refreshing threads on slickdeals not to get one!

I originally got one to port it to android. WebOS is just lacking in the app department. Wouldn't mind keeping webOS but having an emulator to run android apps ie palmdroid.

[Heath Ledger]

i have a 32 gig arriving today debating on selling it or keeping it as a spare credit card terminal for my square reader for the gun shows i do. I currently use square on my iphone or ipad. It's a pretty sweet little app.

[Drachen]

i have a 32 gig arriving today debating on selling it or keeping it as a spare credit card terminal for my square reader for the gun shows i do. I currently use square on my iphone or ipad. It's a pretty sweet little app.


Do they have one for WebOS, or would you just go to their website?

[Creepn]

i have a 32 gig arriving today debating on selling it or keeping it as a spare credit card terminal for my square reader for the gun shows i do. I currently use square on my iphone or ipad. It's a pretty sweet little app.

I'd buy from you just to let you know.

[DPG21920]

You bring me expired codes? :(

I was able to download those free apps a couple days ago. Camera one is meh but better than nothing.


it looks like it does more (remembering login info is nice for example)

My stock browser does that by checking the box like on ST

[DPG21920]

I still haven't found a solution to my movie problem that works :-(

[MannyIsGod]

Nothing is going to work because nothing plays DRM files on WebOS right now. Its because you bought it from iTunes.

[Heath Ledger]

Do they have one for WebOS, or would you just go to their website?

I'd have to wait for android to load square into it.

[Heath Ledger]

Anyone sign up for the free 50 gigs of storage?

[Drachen]

Anyone sign up for the free 50 gigs of storage?

yes.

[DPG21920]

Nothing is going to work because nothing plays DRM files on WebOS right now. Its because you bought it from iTunes.

I know that, but on that website, there were some solutions offered to re-format (such as downloading HandBrake) that seemed to work for some, but I couldn't get it to work.

I still want to find a way to rip DVD's that I own (actual hard copies) onto my PC and then onto my HPTP. I'm sure I can buy software but was looking for something free and haven't found anything suitable yet.

[PM5K]

I thought this was funny. From CL just a while ago:


ATTENTION HP TOUCH PAD SELLERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

this touch pad is being sold for 99 dollars for the 16gig and 149 for 32 gig at all best buys!!!!

please dont expect people to buy the same USED o=touch pad for triple the price

[Creepn]

I thought this was funny. From CL just a while ago:

I know man it's ridiculous how much these people are selling these things lol. I've seen ebay bids that went up to $500 for these discontinued products.

[CubanMustGo]

Sorry for the expired six pack, but Palm/HP just put out a new one. Get them before they expire!!

http://blog.palm.com/palm/2011/08/6-pack-sells-out-but-wait-theres-more.html


Here’s the new 6-Pack – get ‘em while they’re hot (and while supplies last):

Big Boss (http://developer.palm.com/appredirect/?packageid=com.fairplaylabs.app.bigboss&applicationid=9334) (Fair Play Labs, $1.99, rlhul24446cnvjo): Design your “Boss” – a gigantic monster – and attempt to defeat the brave heroes and powerful wizards of WackyLands.
Camera for TouchPad (http://developer.palm.com/appredirect/?packageid=net.keenstudios.touchpadcamera&applicationid=10026) (Keen Studios, $0.99, qnauu98845swgrt): Start snapping away, with options for managing your photos and using them with other TouchPad apps.
Angry Birds Rio HD (http://developer.palm.com/appredirect/?packageid=com.rovio.angrybirdsriohd&applicationid=9209) (Rovio Mobile Ltd., $1.99, xsgsc06319eeqrk): The original Angry Birds are kidnapped and taken to Rio de Janeiro, where they eventually escape their captors and set out to save their friends, Blu and Jewel.
Quell HD (http://developer.palm.com/appredirect/?packageid=com.fallentreegames.quellhd&applicationid=9108) (Fallen Tree Games, $1.99, urber52865hgtqc): A unique puzzler that is sure to test your brain with 70-plus levels of game play.
Pennant (http://developer.palm.com/appredirect/?packageid=com.vargatron.app.pennant&applicationid=9272) (Vargatron, $4.99, ltrns51564vabdu): Got historical pennant fever? Get the scoop on over 115,000 games with this interactive statistical treasure trove of baseball from 1952 to 2010.
FlightPredictor HD (http://developer.palm.com/appredirect/?packageid=com.gregstoll.flightpredictorhd&applicationid=9110) (gregstoll.com, $1.99, htukc87057kxshv): Powered by FlightCaster.com, you’ll get timely notifications before air travel glitches get in your way.
BTW there are now Euro 64GB models on eBay ... ppl are paying $500+! Fools ...

[CubanMustGo]

Another update: QuickOffice now allows you to edit Word/Excel files.

http://blog.palm.com/palm/2011/08/quickoffice-update-adds-editing-and-more.html

Quickoffice update adds editing and more

We've heard (http://www.precentral.net/kerris-quickoffice-document-editing-due-this-week-1) from lots of you that you were anxious for the promised update of Quickoffice -- and today it's live. Quickoffice HD adds editing capabilities (for Microsoft Word and Excel) to give you more abilities to draft and update documents. Formatting options include changing font type, color, size, underlining, italics, and bold in Word, and formating cells and using functions in Excel. In addition, the free update includes many performance and multitasking enhancements. You can keep up with Quickoffice's future plans for the webOS app by following (http://www.twitter.com/quickoffice) them on Twitter.

[ElNono]

CyanogenMod Shows Off Android On the HP TouchPad (http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2392026,00.asp)

c20yOVKm5UM

[IronMaxipad]

Anyone else install the new hulu patch?

Hulu and Espn3.com are working for me now. :)

[MannyIsGod]

wait espn3 is working too with it? I must have it.

[IronMaxipad]

wait espn3 is working too with it? I must have it.

Have you installed preware?

[CubanMustGo]

hmm ... Installed it, Hulu works, but ESPN3 keeps reloading.

1.5 GHz kernel is sweet :-)

[IronMaxipad]

Follow these steps to get the hulu patch:
http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Testing_Feeds#Configuring_the_WebOS_Internals_Test ing_Feeds

[IronMaxipad]

Some speed tweaks:

http://forums.precentral.net/hp-touchpad/287848-my-hp-touchpad-seems-running-so-fast-2.html#post3027858

[MannyIsGod]

espn3 loads but not really working for me yet.

[IronMaxipad]

Espn3 is a bit laggy for me at first but once the video loads it runs pretty smooth. Is your touchpad overclocked?

[IronMaxipad]

Just tried espn3 again it's choppy as fuck now. :lol

it was working fine earlier.

[MannyIsGod]

Yeah I'm using Uberkernal at 1.5 so it should play fine. Ah well, w/e. I'll fuck with it tomorrow.

[MannyIsGod]

Oh - spend the 7 bucks to buy Kalemsoft media player if you want to watch movies or divx files on your TP. It fucking rocks.

[PM5K]

Oh - spend the 7 bucks to buy Kalemsoft media player if you want to watch movies or divx files on your TP. It fucking rocks.

I haven't spent any money on the other dozen or so apps I've gotten, not sure why I'll spend seven bucks on that, lol.

Dead platform any way.

[MannyIsGod]

i know right lol

[leemajors]

http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/30/hp-touchpad-will-receive-ota-udpate-for-added-functionality/


HP: TouchPad will receive OTA udpate for added 'functionality'

[CubanMustGo]

HP has been saying this almost since they killed the hardware. What do you bet some of the 'added functionality' are these patches we've all already installed? :downspin:

Speaking of HP, they just sent out an email saying it would be 'several weeks' before any more machines might be available from them. What a clusterfuck.

[CubanMustGo]

ESPN3 is working for me now ... tho I did just install the 1.8 GHz F4 kernel. Works so well I might go for the 1.9 GHz F16 kernel.

Details on F16: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1230912

You have to add another feed *and follow the instructions precisely*, when it says to reboot after adding that third one, do it.

EDIT: Well, only one core is going at 1.8, so instead I'm going to find the 1.7 Warthog kernal which is supposed to keep both in the loop.

[DJ Mbenga]

damn the kindle app sucks. i mean for adding pirated books. oh well i guess the touchpad will remain for porn and web surfing only. no reading

[leemajors]

damn the kindle app sucks. i mean for adding pirated books. oh well i guess the touchpad will remain for porn and web surfing only. no reading

can't you just get pdfs of books off usenet?

[Drachen]

So, unless I don't have an internet connection, I think that I will not use QuickOffice HD. I prefer the (comparitively) plethora of options that google docs offers. Either that, or I might use MS Office online (havent tried it yet).

[MannyIsGod]

So HP just charged me so maybe I'll be getting the 32gb TP after all.

[lefty]

HP TouchPad to make a comeback: HP announced that they would be firing up assembly lines for one last run of the ill-fated HP TouchPad. The $100 price tag will stick and units will become available just in time for the holidays.

[Creepn]

can't you just get pdfs of books off usenet?

Agreed. Just read it PDF style. No need to get all fancy.

[CubanMustGo]

hp touchpad to make a comeback: Hp announced that they would be firing up assembly lines for one last run of the ill-fated hp touchpad. The $100 price tag will stick and units will become available just in time for the holidays.

why are they doing this when the cost to build one is like $300?!

[Drachen]

why are they doing this when the cost to build one is like $300?!

The only way that I can see HP making money (or making up some money) is from someone like me (which is admittedly not going to be a large portion of firesale buyers)... I have been thinking (on and off) about purchasing a new AIO printer. I want to have one that is wireless, so that I dont have to remember to go and turn on the old desktop that I have my printer hooked up to every time I want to print from my laptop (or now my touchpad). I didn't really have a preference on brand before (though my current brothers printer is still running like a champ), I really only wanted a decent wireless printer for under $100 (would like a seperate photo paper loading tray, but is not necessary). Now I am taking a harder look at HP printers.

[velik_m]

why are they doing this when the cost to build one is like $300?!

Probably because they have parts in stock and have to just put them together. Better build and sell a few more, than to throw all those parts away.

[leemajors]

Probably because they have parts in stock and have to just put them together. Better build and sell a few more, than to throw all those parts away.

this

[Creepn]

Sooo, is the touchpad really worth it's original $400 price?

[Drachen]

Sooo, is the touchpad really worth it's original $400 price?

I would put it around $300 (and by looking at ebay, it seems that the market thinks so as well).

[CubanMustGo]

The original price was $499/$599, later dropped to $399/$499 when they didn't sell.

Thing is if HP had done all the mods that are out in the homebrew community (running @1.5 GHz, getting rid of the logging and all the other crap, etc) up-front people would have had a much better initial impression. The 3.0 release running 1.2 GHz and with logging (etc) enabled is laggy as hell. 3.0.2 is a little better, but all the patches and the 1.5 GHz kernal make it look much more competitive. $299 (16GB) / $379 (32) would have gotten a lot more people looking at it IF they'd gone to the trouble of patching it up first.

[Heath Ledger]

I'm about to pickup a galaxy tab 10.1 inlayed with one at best buy it was sleek and snappy.found a guy on craigslist selling it $100 below retail.

[DPG21920]

Oh - spend the 7 bucks to buy Kalemsoft media player if you want to watch movies or divx files on your TP. It fucking rocks.

How are you getting movies onto your HPTP (are you using torrents?)

Also, espn3 was working pretty good for me and I don't remember installing anything yall are talking about.

[MannyIsGod]

The problem I'm having with ESPN3 definitely has to do with uberkernal. I read a thread on precentral about that kernal having a problem with flash so I stopped overclocking and it instantly worked properly. I'm going to try another OC kernel.

[CubanMustGo]

Splashtop Remote Desktop just announced they will be releasing a webOS app - could address some of the 'it doesn't have an XXX app' concerns.

More info on Splashtop: http://www.splashtop.com/
Signup page for notification: http://signup.splashtop.com/

[Drachen]

This....looks....awesome.


I have been reading about it all day, and in the comments of an article, there was something that could put a damper on it, so I will ask the question. Can I remotely access my PC, or do I have to be on the same wifi network?

[DPG21920]

What the hell is a kernal? :lol

Also, I still haven't found anything to get my iTunes movies onto my HPTP :sad

[DPG21920]

Manny, can you explain your Kalemsoft app? What is so great about it? Will that play my iTunes movies?

[Drachen]

Manny, can you explain your Kalemsoft app? What is so great about it? Will that play my iTunes movies?

Kalemsoft greatly increases codec support for the touchpad... (i.e. you can play a file types that the stock player cannot play).

As far as your itunes stuff, (everything I have read leads to this) apple won't allow your files to play nicely without apple devices/software. They would like to keep you in their ecosystem and this is how they enforce it.

[PM5K]

Oh my fucking god.

[DPG21920]

Kalemsoft greatly increases codec support for the touchpad... (i.e. you can play a file types that the stock player cannot play).

As far as your itunes stuff, (everything I have read leads to this) apple won't allow your files to play nicely without apple devices/software. They would like to keep you in their ecosystem and this is how they enforce it.

I have done a lot of research as well, and there seems to be people who have found work arounds (using HandBrake and such), it's just that none of them have worked for me.

I guess I'll just have to come up with another way. I'm working with DVDFab at the moment to put my DVD's on to my PC then my HPTP and it seems to be working nicely.

[DPG21920]

Kalemsoft greatly increases codec support for the touchpad... (i.e. you can play a file types that the stock player cannot play).

As far as your itunes stuff, (everything I have read leads to this) apple won't allow your files to play nicely without apple devices/software. They would like to keep you in their ecosystem and this is how they enforce it.

Thanks.

[Drachen]

Oh my fucking god.

in response to???

[DPG21920]

Probably my questions ^

Also, Drachen, DVDFab 8 DVD Ripper worked perfectly for putting the DVD's I own onto my PC in a format that works on my HPTP. It is free for the first 30 days (you might be able to get more free trials) and then $40 after. There is no decoding or anything, it does it all in one step and the iPad formatting works with no tweaking on the HPTP. It is pretty fast as well (took about 45 minutes from putting the DVD into my comp to getting it playing on my HPTP).

So, at least that problem is solved.

[CubanMustGo]

This....looks....awesome.


I have been reading about it all day, and in the comments of an article, there was something that could put a damper on it, so I will ask the question. Can I remotely access my PC, or do I have to be on the same wifi network?

A remote desktop app would be pretty worthless if you had to be on same subnet. :toast

The announcement of the Windows app says `go anywhere with your mobile device ... And still have full access to your PC or Mac'.

http://www.splashtop.com/press/splashtop-leading-ios-and-android-remote-desktop-app-developer-launches-free-remote-desktop-app-for-windows-pcs

[DJ Mbenga]

The original price was $499/$599, later dropped to $399/$499 when they didn't sell.

Thing is if HP had done all the mods that are out in the homebrew community (running @1.5 GHz, getting rid of the logging and all the other crap, etc) up-front people would have had a much better initial impression. The 3.0 release running 1.2 GHz and with logging (etc) enabled is laggy as hell. 3.0.2 is a little better, but all the patches and the 1.5 GHz kernal make it look much more competitive. $299 (16GB) / $379 (32) would have gotten a lot more people looking at it IF they'd gone to the trouble of patching it up first.

the software was rushed as well. it wasnt ready. jon rubenstein even said so. they underclocked on purpose probably for that reason and probably for the battery life stats.
a 299 price would not have made stock holders very happy. it costs around 310 to manufacture. cant release something at a loss and compete.

[MannyIsGod]

of course you can release at a loss and compete. Loss leader. Your game console is an example of this and the upcoming amazon tablet will probably be too.

[DPG21920]

I thought the iPad costs like $100 to make, if true how the hell does this HP tablet cost $310?

[CubanMustGo]

the software was rushed as well. it wasnt ready. jon rubenstein even said so. they underclocked on purpose probably for that reason and probably for the battery life stats.
a 299 price would not have made stock holders very happy. it costs around 310 to manufacture. cant release something at a loss and compete.

The difference in power consumption between the 1.5 and the 1.2 kernesl is negligible, not enough to warrant taking the performance hit. As far as the s/w being rushed, yes, but how the hell does SQA let something go out there that logs every freaking trivial event and slows the machine down?

Given the drop in stock price over the last month - for this and other reasons -I daresay the stockholders aren't too happy with the current half-billion (or more) dollar writedown as HP dumps these things at $99/$149, not to mention essentially throwing the original $1.2B for Palm down the drain. If you sell at a SMALL loss you make it up on the accessory sales (the Touchstone charger is cool and can't cost anywhere near what it was selling for to make, cases probably have a 500% profit margin, etc.). The Apple model is that they make most of their money on the App Store and iTunes, and certainly had this thing ever been marketed and released properly HP could have gotten something from their app store too (had there been enough machines out there for devs to release WebOS apps).

Sadly, the CEO of Samsung came out and said they had no desire to purchase WebOS, which probably is the deathknell for the OS. :(

[MannyIsGod]

I don't think Web OS is very good. I think the cards are OK, but its not like switching between applications in Android is difficult. Gimmie my damn CM7!

[MannyIsGod]

I thought the iPad costs like $100 to make, if true how the hell does this HP tablet cost $310?

I don't know what an Ipad or Ipad2 cost to make but neither is 100. Thats for sure.

[ElNono]

I don't know what an Ipad or Ipad2 cost to make but neither is 100. Thats for sure.

Correct.

iPad 1 BOM (http://www.isuppli.com/Teardowns/News/Pages/Mid-RangeiPadtoGenerateMaximumProfitsforApple,iSuppliE stimates.aspx)

iPad 2 BOM (http://www.isuppli.com/PublishingImages/Press%20Releases/2011-03-12_iPad2_BOM.png)

[DPG21920]

Ah I see. I had some mis-information. Makes a lot more sense.

[GINNNNNNNNNNNNOBILI]

Manny.. if you end up getting that extra tablet, I'd trade you the Sprint Nexus S 4g for it.

[Drachen]

Manny.. if you end up getting that extra tablet, I'd trade you the Sprint Nexus S 4g for it.

Damn, that's not a bad deal at all.

[CubanMustGo]

Amazon tab: 7", $250, November: http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/09/02/us-amazon-idUSTRE78171520110902

TechCrunch, which said it had played with a testing prototype, reported that the plan was for Amazon to offer Amazon Prime -- its $79-a-year Internet streaming service -- for free along with the gadget.

Interesting.

The upcoming tablet, running an operating system developed from an older version of Google Inc's Android software, will be Wi-Fi only and come with a color touchscreen but a limited 6GB of memory, according to the blog.

Not. 6GB, WTF??

[ElNono]

lol Amazon with the 3rd world tablet still overpriced

[Drachen]

lol Amazon with the 3rd world tablet still overpriced

Nook Color is still #winning

[MannyIsGod]

6gb? WTF?

[Drachen]

6gb? WTF?

Yeah, and how much of that is usable. Stock the NC comes with 8GB but with only 5 GB usable (the rest is a system partition, etc). LOL, Amazon, I love you, but damn you stoopid.

[PM5K]

What's especially dumb is the reason it has such limited memory is because they expect you to use it with cloud based services, but it's a WIFI only device, seems like a bad mix to me.

Forrester Research must have been paid off by Amazon.

[CubanMustGo]

Maybe ... just maybe ... it has a slot for MicroSD. That's the only way I could see this having any chance, but it's still stupid.

[Pistons < Spurs]

Tiger Direct has the 32G for $199 w/ Belkin Tablet Sleeve and extra power adapter:

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1242429&sku=H24-100053FB&AffiliateID=lw9MynSeamY-RZ75t74oGqD_2YCB6p2YPA&SRCCODE=LINKSHARE&cm_mmc_o=-ddCjC1bELltzywCjC-d2CjCdwwp&AffiliateID=lw9MynSeamY-uKdVrXT.fiehacg3YYgvjQ

[spurs_2108]

Still waiting for android port.... Tried using the stat tracker for fantasy football on yahoo and it wouldn't load. I was hoping it would. Haven't spent much time on it. Plus I'm still waiting for my case from Amazon I ordered last week to come in. After that I would expect heavy usage.

[CubanMustGo]

Tiger Direct has the 32G for $199 w/ Belkin Tablet Sleeve and extra power adapter:

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1242429&sku=H24-100053FB&AffiliateID=lw9MynSeamY-RZ75t74oGqD_2YCB6p2YPA&SRCCODE=LINKSHARE&cm_mmc_o=-ddCjC1bELltzywCjC-d2CjCdwwp&AffiliateID=lw9MynSeamY-uKdVrXT.fiehacg3YYgvjQ

For about ten minutes, apparently. :lol

TD's had this a couple of times in the last week. QVC had a bundle last week and supposedly will again tomorrow, maybe at 3PM central.

[leemajors]

CyanogenMod 7 for TouchPad:

http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/18/cyanogenmod-7-update-brings-wifi-sound-and-accelerometer-suppor/

[Drachen]

Ok, the Splashtop Remote HD app is in the app catalog. Connect to your computer remotely and run your desktop in a card (multitask on your computer on your touchpad while multitasking on your touchpad - LOL). Anyway, Manny, it looks like you don't HAVE to lug that 6 lb laptop around anymore.

[MannyIsGod]

I'll have to wait to see how good that app is. I'll mess with it later.

[Drachen]

yeah, I don't have time at the moment, but from what I am reading on precentral it seems to be working well.... Also, I have a friend who ran into some money troubles and is selling his 32 GB TP for $200 if anyone wants it.

[DJ Mbenga]

looks like we will see ice cream sandwich debut before cm7 makes it to the touchpad. the developers refuse to release an alpha. my guess is gingerbread is released november at the earliest. i hope so. web os is meh.

[Pistons < Spurs]

Finally got a notice tonight from HP (SMB) saying my TP will ship within 2 weeks!!! It's taken a long ass time, but for $99 I'm not complaining too much!

[spurs_2108]

Checked my back account and it showed a charge for my order from the 7th of October. Went to the order status page on HP site and it said it was shipped sunday and should arrive today. Thats badass.

Edit * NVM. I guess my order keeps showing that it shipped, but then changes back to not shipped. So who knows if I will even get it.

[Pistons < Spurs]

Checked my back account and it showed a charge for my order from the 7th of October. Went to the order status page on HP site and it said it was shipped sunday and should arrive today. Thats badass.

Edit * NVM. I guess my order keeps showing that it shipped, but then changes back to not shipped. So who knows if I will even get it.

It'll keep doing that until you get an actual shipping confirmation. They diddle with it daily, adjusting the delivery date. Did you get an email a week or so ago from them saying it would ship soon?

Give them a call. Now that the big rush is over, the wait times aren't but a minute or two typically. They can confirm your order ... but won't give any more than a generic estimation of delivery date.

[spurs_2108]

No i never got an email saying it would ship soon. I just randomly checked my bank statement and it showed a transaction for it. I just checked my bank statement and the charges are gone. I'm not in dire need of the touchpad, just going to sell it to my friend but I wish they will tell me if I'm getting one or not.

I'll have to give them a holla tomorrow.

[Heath Ledger]

dont fret man the touchpad is not too much to get excited about other than the price tag. Maybe im just spoiled because of the ipad 2 but i bought and sold about 7 touchpads with no desire to keep one.

[spurs_2108]

Well I already have one. I got one from best buy back in august. I use it to read one of my textbooks. I also use it to keep up with fantasy football live tracker on yahoo. It doesn't have nearly the amount of apps as the iPad but I'm enjoying it. Also put some books on it though I haven't read any of on it. Just waiting for Android now.

[Drachen]

I have really enjoyed its functionality (especially at the price) and since the introduction of the splashtop remote desktop app, I have been extremely pleased with it.

[MannyIsGod]

Mainly use mine as an ereader and for internet access.

[MannyIsGod]

I definitely think its meh though. Especially for the price. Eagerly watching the CM7 team's progress on putting android on it, though!

[Drachen]

Mainly use mine as an ereader and for internet access.

You are not using it for note taking in class?

[PM5K]

CM7 released an alpha version.

[Drachen]

CM7 released an alpha version.

Just saw that!

[spurs_2108]

Saw that CM7 release an alpha version, but I'm just gonna wait to a full working version is out.

[MannyIsGod]

You are not using it for note taking in class?

Don't really take notes, honestly. Only class I would do so is in my Physics class but he posts the lectures so I just pay attention and review the lectures if I need to (although not really its all equations).

One good thing about taking mainly math and science courses is that there's not all that much memorization involved. There are concepts that make sense and what I forget I can derive.

[MannyIsGod]

Sweet on the alpha. Gonna install that shit when I get home.

[MannyIsGod]

So I guess they released it last night?? Fucking awesome. I'll def do an install when I get home tonight. I'll be happy to send in bugs to get it off the ground faster.

[MannyIsGod]

Ahh shit - netflix is working on it.

9XDmKGmn4vs

[MannyIsGod]

:lmao @ that video, btw

[Drachen]

Don't really take notes, honestly. Only class I would do so is in my Physics class but he posts the lectures so I just pay attention and review the lectures if I need to (although not really its all equations).

One good thing about taking mainly math and science courses is that there's not all that much memorization involved. There are concepts that make sense and what I forget I can derive.

Fair enough. I feel the same way about my finance class (plus any notes that I take are usually drawing, which I can't do). However, I do take notes in my marketing class and the TP works well for it.

[spurs_2108]

Drachen are you a business minor? I'm taking finance and marketing now and a business minor. In for finance class we have have a note packet that we write in. I could see taking notes in my marketing class since everything is definitions, but i prefer handwritten. Same way with my MGMT class. We have a note pack.

[MannyIsGod]

Went ahead with the install. Since you keep WebOS you don't really have anything to lose.

[Drachen]

Went ahead with the install. Since you keep WebOS you don't really have anything to lose.

Let me know how it works. I am in no hurry since I am pretty satisfied as is.

[MannyIsGod]

Its been OK. Happy to have the app catalog. Definitely some issues still, though. Install was easy as shit and you keep WebOS too.

[DJ Mbenga]

easy install? im reluctant o install. at the rootz wiki forum people constantly either say thanks for your work but here are my bugs a,b,c,d. ill wait for a beta. for the cynaogen team an alpha=beta a beta=stable and stable= daily rom

[MannyIsGod]

There are definitely bugs, but for me having android browsing, blue tooth, and apps is worth the occasional bug.

And yeah, the install was easy as hell. Copy files to TP, run script off a command prompt, you have android.

[Drachen]

Manny, do you have one of the HP blue tooth keyboards? If so, does it work on the cm7 alpha build?

[MannyIsGod]

I do not. I just have some BT stereo headphones that I use for music listening. They did not work on the touch pad but they work now. Why don't you try to pair your keyboard with a phone running CM7 to see if it works.

You really should just do the install though. You don't lose WebOS.

[DJ Mbenga]

I do not. I just have some BT stereo headphones that I use for music listening. They did not work on the touch pad but they work now. Why don't you try to pair your keyboard with a phone running CM7 to see if it works.

You really should just do the install though. You don't lose WebOS.

mind linking me the best guide or instructions? im not new to android but it took me a while before i rooted my phone, when it was basically down to not even needing a pc thats how easy it was.
oh yeah. how many of the apps you use actually work?

[Drachen]

webOS 3.0.4 is out: pairing with non-webos phones, non-hp keyboards, smoother interface, etc. I am DLing right now, will let yall know when I have had a chance to run it for a while.

[MannyIsGod]

Best guide (and only one I've seen) is on the rootzwiki forum. Basically you copy a few files over in a folder on the TP and then run a script from your PC. Was super easy and if you've ever rooted anything youshould be fine.

[MannyIsGod]

The new webos seems to break the boot loader so I'm going to hold off for now.

[MannyIsGod]

Not that I've used itsince I got android

[Drachen]

In my limited amount of time to test it, this update is very smooth. Of course, it kills all of your patches and kernels, etc. So this is a completely stock experience and I think it is smoother than my hacked experience previously.

[Drachen]

Manny, do you have one of the HP blue tooth keyboards? If so, does it work on the cm7 alpha build?


I do not. I just have some BT stereo headphones that I use for music listening. They did not work on the touch pad but they work now. Why don't you try to pair your keyboard with a phone running CM7 to see if it works.

You really should just do the install though. You don't lose WebOS.

So I did it, and confirmed that the keyboard does work with CM7. Also, it runs quite smoothly. I haven't had any FC's or anything.

[MannyIsGod]

Yeah I've had NP trouble with the second alpha.

[DJ Mbenga]

Its impossible to get wifi to work. its such a struggle. my problem is i cant stick to android full time. its not working that well yet. so i switch back and forth. mostly to charge the battery. android still has that problem with the battery life. how do you set up wifi? it just keeps connecting forever and freezing.

[Drachen]

Its impossible to get wifi to work. its such a struggle. my problem is i cant stick to android full time. its not working that well yet. so i switch back and forth. mostly to charge the battery. android still has that problem with the battery life. how do you set up wifi? it just keeps connecting forever and freezing.

same issue and the google docs app fc's immediately. Gonna have to keep using webOS for a while. Oh go to engadget and check out the article on superNOTE for the Asus tablets. I NEED that app NOW!

[lefty]

HP TouchPad 32GB on sale at TigerDirect today if you’re quick


2:30 pm ET

[lefty]

again


HP TouchPad 32GB on sale at TigerDirect today if you’re quick


2:30 pm ET

[MannyIsGod]

My wifi works fine. Battery life is poor though. 8 hours of use or so. Haven't used weeps at all since I got android

[Drachen]

My wifi works fine. Battery life is poor though. 8 hours of use or so. Haven't used weeps at all since I got android

My wifi works fine, but I have to unpair, then repair my BT keyboard every new time I try to connect it. I am sticking with WebOS mostly for the moment. COMEON ICS SOURCE CODE!

[CubanMustGo]

Pretty funny (or sad) that HP tells everyone "so sorry, we're not going to have any more to sell you, after all" and now both Best Buy AND Walmart will sell you one at firesale pricing if you buy a freaking HP laptop. Return the laptop, tho, and they charge you $600 for the TouchPad.

Fuck you very much, HP.

[CubanMustGo]

They've also opened up the developer purchase program again, so I guess you could try registering as a dev and getting one that route. "Hey developers, we got something you'll want, a tablet we've abandoned." Maybe the few real devs can make a little money selling the extra units.

[spurs_2108]

Finally got CyanogenMod running on my touchpad. Its awesome. Loving it a lot. Only had a wifi hiccup like most people have had. Was able to fix it with an app. I'm verypleased with android. Pulse news reader looks awesome on here. Glad I'm able to get netflix and spotify on here even though I have spotify on webos.

Edit* Just when I say the wifi is working, it craps out.

[koriwhat]

saw a 32gig model at best buy the other day and when i asked the guy about it he said, "yeah, we have to sell it for retail price and not for that firesell price", then i asked how long has that one model been there and he said forever. :lol

[MannyIsGod]

I really enjoy mine. No complaints and eagerly awaiting the first version of a ROM with ICS. I'm on the 2nd alpha as I never the need to upgrade since wifi worked fine for me.

I lied. Battery life could be much better. I hope that is fixed with ICS. Otherwise, one of the best purchases I ever made.

[spurs_2108]

Maybe I should downgrade to 3.0 and see if the wifi works. I'm also waiting for ICS. But the developers who work on this are impressive. Can't wait to see what comes out next year. It just sucks not having a working wifi at time!

[Drachen]

Maybe I should downgrade to 3.0 and see if the wifi works. I'm also waiting for ICS. But the developers who work on this are impressive. Can't wait to see what comes out next year. It just sucks not having a working wifi at time!

I am telling you, try XRON-ified. It was a big jump from CM 2.1 to whatever version of Xronified was around at the time. I haven't looked back. The worst I have with wifi is that I have to cycle it sometimes (turn wifi off then back on), but this is pretty rare. The newest version has the ICS launcher and app drawer so you can get a taste of it.

[spurs_2108]

I'm new to all this stuff so it takes me a little while to figure everything out. I know you have to download an emulator but I never even used it. I somehow was able to get CM running.

I was following this guide http://rootzwiki.com/_/articles/your-new-touchpad-and-you-a-guide-r257 and when I got to to restarting the tp part, I unplugged it from the computer and did steps 8 and 9. Then once the usb signal came up I plugged it back in and did step 11. Not too sure if your had to use the emulator to restart it, but I was able to get it to work none the less. What was (is) the purpose of the emulator?

9. As soon as the screen goes dark, start holding the Volume Up button — don’t let go until you see a big USB symbol on your display.
10. Your computer might take a moment to recognize the TouchPad.
11. Once it’s recognized, open a terminal and navigate to the Palm Novacom directory. On a Windows computer you can do this by following these steps


Do you have any links for the XRON-ified? I also didn't back anything up. haha

[Drachen]

ok, if you went through all of the steps and installed everything that you were supposed to (moboot, Clockworkmod Recovery, etc) then it should be substantially easier for you. the link to DL Xron can be found here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1321335) . Once you have DLed this, put it on the root of your SD card (i.e. not in any folder). If you download this file from your touchpad it will be found in the "downloads" folder and you can move it using any file manager. You probably have ES file manager in your app drawer. Once it is on the root of the SD card you want to reboot. Hold the power button down, select reboot, then reboot to recovery. Once you have done this, your TP will shut down then reboot into a screen that only has a text interface. You use your volume buttons to go up and down and your home button to select. You will want to do a clean install so first you want to do ..... This is going to go on for a LOOONG time to type out, even though it is a 3-4 minute process, so let me just wait until I get home and make a video and post it on youtube. Or you can go read XDA about how to install a ROM.

[MannyIsGod]

How is battery life with that rom?

[Drachen]

How is battery life with that rom?

pretty good. I have never been left feeling like I needed to baby it. Then again, I may use it differently than you do. I would say somewhere between 7-9 hours. I am not completely sure since i have never had to worry about it. I do know that it barely looses any power while asleep

[spurs_2108]

Thanks for the tips. You don't need to explain everything or make a video. I was able to follow all the instructions for CM so I just needed a link to the version you were talking about.

I'm at the xda forum then I went here. http://www.androidfilehost.com/main/Touchpad_Developers/Team_Xron/CM7base_XRONified

I'm not too sure which version I should download. Do I download the last one? It seems to be the most recent.

I already have CM 7.1.0 installed so I guess I just follow these instructions.

1) Download the latest version either on your Touchpad or computer
2) If you already have CM7 or XRONified installed, place the above zip on the root directory of your Touchpad
3) Reboot in to recovery
4) Wipe cache AND dalvik cache (under advanced menu option)
5) Flash zip. (if you are coming from CM7 you MUST wipe factory reset/cache/dalvik first)

[Drachen]

Thanks for the tips. You don't need to explain everything or make a video. I was able to follow all the instructions for CM so I just needed a link to the version you were talking about.

I'm at the xda forum then I went here. http://www.androidfilehost.com/main/Touchpad_Developers/Team_Xron/CM7base_XRONified

I'm not too sure which version I should download. Do I download the last one? It seems to be the most recent.

I already have CM 7.1.0 installed so I guess I just follow these instructions.

1) Download the latest version either on your Touchpad or computer
2) If you already have CM7 or XRONified installed, place the above zip on the root directory of your Touchpad
3) Reboot in to recovery
4) Wipe cache AND dalvik cache (under advanced menu option)
5) Flash zip. (if you are coming from CM7 you MUST wipe factory reset/cache/dalvik first)

ok, so I was assuming you knew NOTHING so I was trying to spell it out very simply. Yes, those instructions work, I do a factory reset every time I flash a ROM regardless of if I am simply upgrading my current rom or not. Some say this is overkill, I say I would rather decrease the possibility of bugs. Just know that when you do a factory reset you lose all of your apps or data unless you back them up (I use titanium backup to do this.). Let me know if you have any other questions.

[spurs_2108]

Well i just installed CM yesterday afternoon, so I am still very new. haha. When it says flash zip? What does that mean? And what version am I downloading from here? http://www.androidfilehost.com/main/Touchpad_Developers/Team_Xron/CM7base_XRONified/

[Drachen]

Well i just installed CM yesterday afternoon, so I am still very new. haha. When it says flash zip? What does that mean? And what version am I downloading from here? http://www.androidfilehost.com/main/Touchpad_Developers/Team_Xron/CM7base_XRONified/

Oh yea, sorry. I am running the newest (2.8) right now but I just loaded it up this morning, so I don't have a lot to say about it yet. I was running 2.6 before and it ran pretty well. When it says to "flash a zip" it means boot into recovery do all of your wiping, then select install zip from SD card > Choose zip from SD card > then select the file that you are trying to install (i.e. XRONified_vB2.8_Odex-bloat.zip) then it will install Xron on your device.

[spurs_2108]

XRON-ified is just like an add on to CM 7 right? Like I said I'm new to this. Just to make things clear. I have CM 7.1.0 running right now. Installed it yesterday following this guide (http://rootzwiki.com/_/articles/your-new-touchpad-and-you-a-guide-r257). To get XRON-ified, just download XRONified_vB2.8_Odex-bloat.zip from the website. Save it to my touchpad. It seems that is the easiest way to do it. Then follow these steps?

3) Reboot in to recovery
4) Wipe cache AND dalvik cache (under advanced menu option)
5) Flash zip. (if you are coming from CM7 you MUST wipe factory reset/cache/dalvik first)

I should also do a backup of the apps i already have installed with titanium backup.

[Drachen]

XRON-ified is just like an add on to CM 7 right? Like I said I'm new to this. Just to make things clear. I have CM 7.1.0 running right now. Installed it yesterday following this guide (http://rootzwiki.com/_/articles/your-new-touchpad-and-you-a-guide-r257). To get XRON-ified, just download XRONified_vB2.8_Odex-bloat.zip from the website. Save it to my touchpad. It seems that is the easiest way to do it. Then follow these steps?

3) Reboot in to recovery
4) Wipe cache AND dalvik cache (under advanced menu option)
5) Flash zip. (if you are coming from CM7 you MUST wipe factory reset/cache/dalvik first)

I should also do a backup of the apps i already have installed with titanium backup.

Its not an add on, it will completely replace CM7, though it is based off of CM7 (basically the developer started with CM7, then developed from there like a fork in the development road). Your steps are correct, though for clarity's sake I will make a slight change.

3) Reboot in to recovery
4) Wipe cache AND dalvik cache (under advanced menu option)
4a) Factory reset.
5) Flash zip.

[MannyIsGod]

Oh - I usually get 9 or so hours out of a charge also. I just remember getting far more on webos

[resistanze]

Question for y'all tablet users.

What are you find yourself doing on your tablets? I was gonna get the ASUS Transformer Prime, just because I could (Christmas, my birthday, wanted a new toy). However, I only see myself reading books or maybe browsing when I don't want to grab my laptop of my smartphone. Have you found your tablet actually replacing things you did on your smartphone/laptop?

[lefty]

Question for y'all tablet users.

What are you find yourself doing on your tablets? I was gonna get the ASUS Transformer Prime, just because I could (Christmas, my birthday, wanted a new toy). However, I only see myself reading books or maybe browsing when I don't want to grab my laptop of my smartphone. Have you found your tablet actually replacing things you did on your smartphone/laptop?
I owned a tablet for 10 days before returning it


At 1st I was like: cool, browsing from my couch, convenient, blabla


But then I realised I didnt really need, with a laptop and a dumbphone, I'm all set

Of course, if I get one for free/gift, I would find a use for it

[Drachen]

Question for y'all tablet users.

What are you find yourself doing on your tablets? I was gonna get the ASUS Transformer Prime, just because I could (Christmas, my birthday, wanted a new toy). However, I only see myself reading books or maybe browsing when I don't want to grab my laptop of my smartphone. Have you found your tablet actually replacing things you did on your smartphone/laptop?

I have pretty much replaced my laptop with my tablet except for full word processing, spreadsheet creation, etc. I say "full" because, I don't mind editing those things above on the tablet, but prefer to create them on my TP. Then again I have a BT keyboard which makes things easier. I only use THAT when taking notes, editing docs, etc.

[resistanze]

I owned a tablet for 10 days before returning it


At 1st I was like: cool, browsing from my couch, convenient, blabla


But then I realised I didnt really need, with a laptop and a dumbphone, I'm all set

Of course, if I get one for free/gift, I would find a use for it
This was my fear, tbh. If I get it want it to be able to replace my laptop use.

[resistanze]

I have pretty much replaced my laptop with my tablet except for full word processing, spreadsheet creation, etc. I say "full" because, I don't mind editing those things above on the tablet, but prefer to create them on my TP. Then again I have a BT keyboard which makes things easier. I only use THAT when taking notes, editing docs, etc.

Yeah, my thinking is that now that I'm done school, I really don't use my laptop for anything else except playing music, browsing and checking email. I rarely even create word documents or spreadsheets when I'm not at work.
Typing would be the only thing I'd have to get used to on a tablet, although I can always but the keyboard/dock for the Transformer Prime. I'll probably wait to try the tablet in store before deciding.

[lefty]

Yeah, my thinking is that now that I'm done school, I really don't use my laptop for anything else except playing music, browsing and checking email. I rarely even create word documents or spreadsheets when I'm not at work.
Typing would be the only thing I'd have to get used to on a tablet, although I can always but the keyboard/dock for the Transformer Prime. I'll probably wait to try the tablet in store before deciding.

Yeah me too, since I finished school, no heavy use of my PC (except for downloading movies/music), just the basic stuff you have listed.

You can get a 200$ BB Playbook and see if it's you (boxing week price)
If you dont like it you can always return it (although I'm not sure you can return boxing week items)

[Drachen]

You can also get the splashtop remote desktop app for $5 and remotely access your laptop to get a full Win7 experience on your tab. It works quite well and is painless to set up. That way you can further relegate your laptop to less duty.

[koriwhat]

ever since getting out of school, i really never use my ipad. i haven't charged the thing in like 2 months... it's a damn paperweight nowadays but i'm sure sooner or later i'll find a use for it again. when i was going to school i could find a bajillion uses for it.

[spurs_2108]

I'm in the process of putting XRONified on my touchpad. I wanna back up my apps and data and for titanium backup it says i need to have a rooted device. Do i have to do something else to "root" it or am I good to go?

[spurs_2108]

Well i got XRONified. I thought it was going to be harder to get it running. It took less than 5 minutes to install. Took longer to actually download the file! I'm restoring my data right now. These developers are smart as hell.

[z0sa]

Dunno if this is the right thread (in fact, I may even be clowned on - I don't know shit about tablets) but my parents pitched to get me a Kindle Fire for my bday/christmas and this thing seriously kicks some ass. I'm an avid reader so the amount of books alone is nice, but this thing's display, responsiveness and internet speeds are godly.

[leemajors]

Dunno if this is the right thread (in fact, I may even be clowned on - I don't know shit about tablets) but my parents pitched to get me a Kindle Fire for my bday/christmas and this thing seriously kicks some ass. I'm an avid reader so the amount of books alone is nice, but this thing's display, responsiveness and internet speeds are godly.

I hear it's not so great with video compared to most other tablets. You find it that way?

[spurs_2108]

Using the dolphin web browser. Looks like the stock browser was removed. Though I like the gestures with dolphin. Text seems to have a little lag but it could just be me.

[z0sa]

I hear it's not so great with video compared to most other tablets. You find it that way?

I'm not experienced with tablets or their hardware, so I really couldn't give you an answer that was worth a damn. Seems very crisp and clean though, fwiw.

I do know the ipad2 doesn't have flash (yet at least); the kindle does. The videos I've seen have ran beautifully thus far. The fire's display's dimensions are smaller than the ipad2's and I've read conflicting reports about the the anti-glare - amazon and a couple reviews I read say its the best possible glare reduction, others say it's among the worst. Personally it doesn't seem to glare for me unless at a rather absurd angle, one I'd never read at.

[Drachen]

Using the dolphin web browser. Looks like the stock browser was removed. Though I like the gestures with dolphin. Text seems to have a little lag but it could just be me.

Stock was removed, if you look at the thread which has the link in it probably about 5-15 pages back, there is a person named Jzen who recompiled 2.8 without a lot of the "bloat", removed dolphin and added stock browser. I don't really care though because I love Dolphin. I don't use the gestures at all, but I like the way it handles "favorites" (slide to the right) or add-ons (slide to the left). I like the quick dialer, and I like the tabs. I haven't noticed lag, but who knows.

[Drachen]

I'm not experienced with tablets or their hardware, so I really couldn't give you an answer that was worth a damn. Seems very crisp and clean though, fwiw.

I do know the ipad2 doesn't have flash (yet at least); the kindle does. The videos I've seen have ran beautifully thus far. The fire's display's dimensions are smaller than the ipad2's and I've read conflicting reports about the the anti-glare - amazon and a couple reviews I read say its the best possible glare reduction, others say it's among the worst. Personally it doesn't seem to glare for me unless at a rather absurd angle, one I'd never read at.

I am glad it is working for you. I believe lee is referring to some of the reviews that said that the video got a little choppy every once in a while (not necessarily flash, but when playing a movie). However, if you are satisfied, great!

[leemajors]

I am glad it is working for you. I believe lee is referring to some of the reviews that said that the video got a little choppy every once in a while (not necessarily flash, but when playing a movie). However, if you are satisfied, great!

yup

[spurs_2108]

I guess its nice to have options. I like dolphin a lot so far. I was having trouble with the WiFi last night and tried restarting the touchpad and running a fee programs to fix it. Nothing seemed to work. So I just turned it off and went to bed. Woke up this morning and turned it on and the WiFi was working. As I was typing a post similar to this it crapped out so I had to boot into webOS to type this. I also have a problem with the keyboard. It seems too small to be. Also I sometimes end up hitting below the space bar and combine words instead of having a space in between. Wish the webOS keyboard was ported over.

[Drachen]

I guess its nice to have options. I like dolphin a lot so far. I was having trouble with the WiFi last night and tried restarting the touchpad and running a fee programs to fix it. Nothing seemed to work. So I just turned it off and went to bed. Woke up this morning and turned it on and the WiFi was working. As I was typing a post similar to this it crapped out so I had to boot into webOS to type this. I also have a problem with the keyboard. It seems too small to be. Also I sometimes end up hitting below the space bar and combine words instead of having a space in between. Wish the webOS keyboard was ported over.

Wifi: This really perplexes me. I have read about people having wifi issues on this and the CM7 build, but I have never had such problems. I will say, however, that those complaints have almost ceased with the most recent several builds. Hopefully things shake out for you, try reinstalling (wipe everything of course).

Keyboard: there are a ton of keyboards out there. Try some out. I bought thumb keyboard a while back and that is what I use for this and it works great. Another you might want to try is Go keyboard. I haven't used it, but have heard great things and I use some of Go's other apps because they rock. Another bonus to Go - its free.

[spurs_2108]

Log into your router's setup and change your channel setup from automatic to a channel below ch. 5. I had wifi connect issues constantly until I did this and now, never. I lock mine down on channel 4. I had tried all of the suggested fixes and none helped.

I followed that and it seems to have connected. Lets see if it stays connected. Still impressed about these developers and their coding and crap. They are pretty badass.

I noticed this is Android 2.3.7.

What version of Android should tablets run on? I guess the developers are just taking their time and hopfully a tablet version will come out. That way the apps look better and are not the phone version.

Not complaining one bit either.

[z0sa]

I am glad it is working for you. I believe lee is referring to some of the reviews that said that the video got a little choppy every once in a while (not necessarily flash, but when playing a movie). However, if you are satisfied, great!

i will keep it in mind, thanks for clarifying.

[Drachen]

Tablets are run off of Honeycomb and (now) Ice Cream sandwich. Unfortunately, the source code for Honeycomb was just released at the same time as ICS so the devs haven't had enough time with either of those yet. They are working on CM9 though and it is getting close to getting released (and is released in an alpha for some phones). Cyanogen himself said, upon the source code for HC and ICS being released, "ICS source code released, see you in two months" I would say that we will have a 4.xx based ROM by the 3rd or 4th week of Jan.

[spurs_2108]

Badass. Can't wait to see it. Wifi seems to be working fine now. Currently using swift keyboard now. Going to look for some more keyboards. Also going to install all he free Apps of the day that I got from the amazon app store. Couldn't have them all on my phone.

[spurs_2108]

With the cyanogenmod running on honeycomb or ics, will that make the apps more tablet friendly?

[leemajors]

With the cyanogenmod running on honeycomb or ics, will that make the apps more tablet friendly?

yes, for android tablets certainly.

[resistanze]

Out of the market for a tablet. Bought an expensive watch instead, tbh. Maybe in the summer.

[spurs_2108]

A new xron version was released on the 3rd. I haven't downloaded it yet. Will probably stay with the build I have right now. If I were to update would I just follow the same instructions like I did last tim? Boot into recovery and wipe everything and then unzip.

[Drachen]

A new xron version was released on the 3rd. I haven't downloaded it yet. Will probably stay with the build I have right now. If I were to update would I just follow the same instructions like I did last tim? Boot into recovery and wipe everything and then unzip.

I assume that you are talking about 2.9.1 ... Which version see you on now?

[spurs_2108]

Yeah I'm talking about 2.9.1. I currently have 2.8.

[MannyIsGod]

With the cyanogenmod running on honeycomb or ics, will that make the apps more tablet friendly?

Not exactly. Any apps you have now will run the same. But this will give you access to tablet specific apps that won't run on gingerbread but run on honeycomb (and ICS).

[Drachen]

Yeah I'm talking about 2.9.1. I currently have 2.8.

Yes, you would need to do a full wipe, there were many changes between 2.8 and 2.9. (if you were on 2.9 deodexed, you would not need to do a full wipe).

[spurs_2108]

A little off topic but I have an EVO 4G. I was thinking about rooting. Don't really know I'd it will be worth it. I'm comfortable putting Android on my tabler but a phone seems a little riskier.

Back to the tablet. Can I download Rom manger from the app store and use that on the tablet. I wanna check out different Roms for the tablet and not just Cynaogen and xron. Although those are regarded as the best.

[MannyIsGod]

If you put a custom ROM on your phone you could tether with it and you could have better battery life. Those are the two main benefits for me.

[leemajors]

A little off topic but I have an EVO 4G. I was thinking about rooting. Don't really know I'd it will be worth it. I'm comfortable putting Android on my tabler but a phone seems a little riskier.

Back to the tablet. Can I download Rom manger from the app store and use that on the tablet. I wanna check out different Roms for the tablet and not just Cynaogen and xron. Although those are regarded as the best.

It's the same, I wouldn't fret over it.

[Drachen]

A little off topic but I have an EVO 4G. I was thinking about rooting. Don't really know I'd it will be worth it. I'm comfortable putting Android on my tabler but a phone seems a little riskier.

Back to the tablet. Can I download Rom manger from the app store and use that on the tablet. I wanna check out different Roms for the tablet and not just Cynaogen and xron. Although those are regarded as the best.

Rooting the phone is no big deal and there are some major advantages (biggest being the battery). As far as the tablet goes, there are only 2 ROMs and you just named them. ROM manager, as far as I know, doesn't support the touchpad.

[MannyIsGod]

rooted/unlocked my bootloader/installed CWM and I'm now flashing CM9 on my Photon tonight. I was nervous the first time (ask Drachen he got 290480948 PMs) but now its easy as pie. This if the fourth phone I've rooted (first bootloader I've unlocked)

[Drachen]

Give us a quick review of CNET when you get a chance.

Edit: CM9... There you go.

[MannyIsGod]

cnet?

[leemajors]

auto correct for cwm?

[spurs_2108]

I flashed vB2.9.1 last night and it worked fine. It was at the point where I was restoring my apps with titanium backup and a few apps wouldn't restore. It would just sit there saying "working". So i had to force close titanium backup. The apps that wouldn't install were adobe reader and Amazon MP3 I believe. I was able to get a few on, say about 6, then decided to go back to 2.8. Not to sure what the problem was. Titanium backup shouldn't take that long to recover it should it?

I guess tonight I'll be rooting my EVO 4G. I believe I should start here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=956187) ?

I'm pretty sure I'll be using this wiki link also. http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=HTC_Evo_4G

[Drachen]

I flashed vB2.9.1 last night and it worked fine. It was at the point where I was restoring my apps with titanium backup and a few apps wouldn't restore. It would just sit there saying "working". So i had to force close titanium backup. The apps that wouldn't install were adobe reader and Amazon MP3 I believe. I was able to get a few on, say about 6, then decided to go back to 2.8. Not to sure what the problem was. Titanium backup shouldn't take that long to recover it should it?

I guess tonight I'll be rooting my EVO 4G. I believe I should start here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=956187) ?

I'm pretty sure I'll be using this wiki link also. http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=HTC_Evo_4G

I have had that happen every once in a while. I just FC titanium, then redo the batch without that app in there (it has never happened with an important app). If I felt that I really needed it, I would just go reinstall it manually with the market.

[spurs_2108]

When I was on 2.9.1 I tried to run the batch from the menu button but none of the batches came up. I had to manually restore them. When I went back to 2.8 I was able to run the batch with out a problem. I may try it again tonight. I was messing around with it after the Spurs game and didn't have much time to work on it.

Is CyanogenMod-7 the best for the EVO? Seems like a little more work than flashing the touchpad.

[Drachen]

When I was on 2.9.1 I tried to run the batch from the menu button but none of the batches came up. I had to manually restore them. When I went back to 2.8 I was able to run the batch with out a problem. I may try it again tonight. I was messing around with it after the Spurs game and didn't have much time to work on it.

Is CyanogenMod-7 the best for the EVO? Seems like a little more work than flashing the touchpad.

It has been a while since I rooted my wife's evo, so I can't remember (and it may have changed), but I have found that most of the time the instructions look intimidating, but once you read through each of them and take it one step at a time, that they are actually pretty simple.

Also, did you purchase titanium backup pro?
If so, you have to download that pro key everytime you wipe and flash (even if the rom comes with titanium backup since that will only be the free version). The difference being, when you run a batch restore in the free version you have to hit install for each app and that gets annoying.

[spurs_2108]

I just have the free version. May look into the paid version tonight. When I get off of work I'll be messing around with the TP and Evo. Hopefully it goes smoothly.

[leemajors]

this is neat:

http://lifehacker.com/5873745/unlock-root-roots-nearly-250-android-devices-in-one-click

[MannyIsGod]

CM9 was cool. I took it off pretty fast because so much still doesn't work but I wanted to check it out. Best feature was having all of my apps automatically install (kinda like titanium but so much better). Look forward to having a beta version. The alpha was a bit too buggy still.

I'm actually probably just going to stick with a rooted stock version (assuming battery life is acceptable) until CM9 is better.

[spurs_2108]

If I'm using titanium back up to back up my apps on my EVO, it says I need root privileges to back up first. Am I able to root then back up? Or that wont work.

[Drachen]

Yes you can gain root without wiping, then back up your apps.

[leemajors]

is there still not a default backup plugging in or otherwise for android phones?

[spurs_2108]

Got it rooted. Now flashing CyanogenMod. Hope it works. haha. Had a little trouble with su binary. I wasn't able to boot into recovery. I just had to update recovery and update su binary.

[Drachen]

is there still not a default backup plugging in or otherwise for android phones?

As far as plugging in, maybe. I try to avoid doing so, so if it is there,I don't know about it. As far as otherwise, Google market remembers the as you've downloaded, but a large portion of my apps were not downloaded from Google market.

[MannyIsGod]

Thats what I was talking about with ICS. It added everything I had on my phone prior to installing ICS automatically. Worked awesome. Very few of my apps come from outside the market. A few from Amazon since they havve a free one each day.

[resistanze]

Thats what I was talking about with ICS. It added everything I had on my phone prior to installing ICS automatically. Worked awesome. Very few of my apps come from outside the market. A few from Amazon since they havve a free one each day.

Didn't it do that with GB as well? Tbh, whenever I wiped my phone to try a new GB rom, my app would always reinstall once I open market. I even asked Drachen about how to stop that since I was using Titanium Backup.

[Drachen]

Thats what I was talking about with ICS. It added everything I had on my phone prior to installing ICS automatically. Worked awesome. Very few of my apps come from outside the market. A few from Amazon since they havve a free one each day.

Yeah, this happens with GB. I wonder why you hadn't noticed, maybe you ran titanium before ever opening the market.

[MannyIsGod]

Weird, none of my GB ROMs have EVER done that. Not even on the Photon. I thought for sure it was a new ICS thing. I loved it.

[spurs_2108]

Really digging cyanogenmod on my Evolution. Didn't take long to get used to it since I have it on my touchoad. Really like all the customization.

[Drachen]

Forgot to tell yall, ICS for the touchpad has been out since last night.

[MannyIsGod]

Yeah but I'm not sure I want to switch yet

[spurs_2108]

I heard also. Probably going to stock with CM7 until a more stable build is out.

[Drachen]

Put CM9 on my TP on my lunch, working late tonight with little to do, so I will let yall know what I think about it. Instant thoughts, ridiculously smooth transitions and very fast.

[Drachen]

Also, it looks like (at least initially) that we will have three ICS forks. CM9, Evervolv, and XRON. They may, however, end up merging.

[Drachen]

I like it, and I think I am sticking with this as opposed to going back to CM7 based XRON. Also, I got ASUS Supernote working on it so that is extremely exciting.

[MannyIsGod]

You've convinced me to try it

[Drachen]

You've convinced me to try it

After you have logged in open the browser then the bookmarks..there should be a surprise.

[spurs_2108]

Tempting to try it.... I thought Id used Netflix and Youtube more on the touchpad since I had CM7, but thats not the case. The video doesn't look as clear as it does on my EVO, XBOX and Computer. So Its not that big a of deal to not have it for a while.

EDIT * ICS is gorgeous.

[MannyIsGod]

Finally installed it. Love it.

[IronMaxipad]

LTTP

Anyone have a problem with their wifi on CM9? When i first set up the wifi connection it worked great but as soon as i turn off and back on again it won't connect. I have to manually disconnect and then rescan for a signal and reconnect ever single time. It's annoying as fuck.

[MannyIsGod]

Nah, definitely don't have that issue. I had that issue with 7 sometimes.

[Drachen]

LTTP

Anyone have a problem with their wifi on CM9? When i first set up the wifi connection it worked great but as soon as i turn off and back on again it won't connect. I have to manually disconnect and then rescan for a signal and reconnect ever single time. It's annoying as fuck.

had that issue with 7 and with 9 at the beginning. I thought that they had it all worked out though because I haven't had that problem in a looooooooong time. What nightly are you running?

[Trainwreck2100]

LTTP

Anyone have a problem with their wifi on CM9? When i first set up the wifi connection it worked great but as soon as i turn off and back on again it won't connect. I have to manually disconnect and then rescan for a signal and reconnect ever single time. It's annoying as fuck.

do you have the latest version? I think a new one came out the 20th of july

[leemajors]

do you have the latest version? I think a new one came out the 20th of july

A stable build came out just yesterday:

http://get.cm/?type=stable

[Drachen]

basically they got the wifi drivers from HP at the beginning of July and any build after 7/7 should work perfectly.

[Drachen]

A stable build came out just yesterday:

http://get.cm/?type=stable

TP not "officially" supported since it wasn't originally an android product and HP hasn't released full source code or drivers (they aren't open sourcing webos for past devices). All that being said to say there is no "stable" release for TP.

They have all been stable for a good while now.

[leemajors]

ahh ok i just remember seeing the headline

[IronMaxipad]

I was still on Alpha 2. Updated to the latest nightly release and everything runs perfectly now. Thanks bruh's. :toast

[lefty]

Jelly Bean coming to the TP, through CM 10

[DJ Mbenga]

Jelly Bean coming to the TP, through CM 10

when? i wonder how long it will take to have it with features working like hardware acceleration aka watch videos the mic, so you can use google now. at least project butter works no matter if its alpha