I think we can put to rest the BS that the Civil War was about state's rights.

[ChuckD]

Slavery and racism were not incidental to the Confederacy, in the Lone Star State or elsewhere. The Texas declaration of secession held as its first finding:

“We hold as undeniable truths that the governments of the various States, and of the confederacy itself, were established exclusively by the white race, for themselves and their posterity; that the African race had no agency in their establishment; that they were rightfully held and regarded as an inferior and dependent race, and in that condition only could their existence in this country be rendered beneficial or tolerable.”

Read more: http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/article/Keep-hate-symbol-off-Texas-plates-2139651.php#ixzz1W6XqojPc

State's Rights is just a code word for living how we want and doing what we want, Constitution be damned.

[Koolaid_Man]

Slavery and racism were not incidental to the Confederacy, in the Lone Star State or elsewhere. The Texas declaration of secession held as its first finding:

“We hold as undeniable truths that the governments of the various States, and of the confederacy itself, were established exclusively by the white race, for themselves and their posterity; that the African race had no agency in their establishment; that they were rightfully held and regarded as an inferior and dependent race, and in that condition only could their existence in this country be rendered beneficial or tolerable.”

Read more: http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/article/Keep-hate-symbol-off-Texas-plates-2139651.php#ixzz1W6XqojPc

State's Rights is just a code word for living how we want and doing what we want, Constitution be damned.

well chronicled by Louis Farrakhan

[Koolaid_Man]

They all fight now throw Fixed News...but they get their assholes checked....

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[scott]

crofl at the dudes trying to defend the Confederate flag plates in the comments.

This whole "Southern Heritage" line makes me chuckle because 1) I don't understand why anyone would even want a confederate flag and 2) most people with confederate flags can't explain why they want one either.

[Sec24Row7]

I don't understand why people Jones so much over the confederate flag... Trying to equate it with something like the swastika is hilarious.

I think a lot of these "leaders" going after 150 year old symbols that have vastly different meanings to different people could do a lot more good if they would focus on educating their constituencies and followers how to think for themselves independently of their race. Of course... That wouldnt exactly be in the leader's self interest. The race card would be accepted far fewer places if most people stopped carrying it. Better to go after a 150 year old boogieman...

[boutons_deux]

"150 year old boogieman"

the racist boogieman lives, as evidenced by assholes venerating the racist Confederacy and displaying the Confederate flag.

[Sec24Row7]

But it's ok to venerate the racist republic that declared independence in 1776, the founding fathers or Abe Lincoln?

It's bogus... It's a boogieman. No one flying a CF is advocating slavery. Everyone was racist. Most people of all colors still are to some degree. Hawaii and Alaska were admitted to the union before the civil rights act... We going to go after the stars and bars next?

A confederate flag Bikini is no more racist than FUBU pants.

[DarrinS]

Good thread

[boutons_deux]

"No one flying a CF is advocating slavery"

straw man.

They're advocating white (and "Christian") racist supremacy, and exclusion of non-whites from "God's Country". The CF is a strong symbol, the assholes know it (tho they don't know much else), and it ain't a symbol of democracy and civil rights.

[Sec24Row7]

"No one flying a CF is advocating slavery"

straw man.

They're advocating white (and "Christian") racist supremacy, and exclusion of non-whites from "God's Country". The CF is a strong symbol, the assholes know it (tho they don't know much else), and it ain't a symbol of democracy and civil rights.

Just an aside since I remembered that I hate "talking" with boutons...

This forum has to use the term "straw man" more than any other forum on the interwebs.

[boutons_deux]

You raised the strawman that CF was for advocating slavery, not me.

[vy65]

I don't think there is a good argument for restricting someone's right to display the confederate flag. The question is whether or not the government should display potential hate speech on its property. However, there is a strong argument that the flag isn't pure hate speech and has a political dimension.

Personally, if the klan has a constitutional right to have a rally at a public park, I don't see a good reason why you shouldn't have a constitutional right to have a confederate flag on a license plate.

That being said, you'd have to be pretty fucking ignorant to want a confederate flag license plate.

[vy65]

You raised the strawman that CF was for advocating slavery, not me.

Did you bother reading the article? Do you even know what strawman means?

[Spurminator]

Good thread

Really????

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=183984
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=183875
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=183761
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=182853
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=182809
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=182369

[FromWayDowntown]

Screaming "states rights" has pretty much always been just a jingoistic way to say that you dislike what the federal government's policy position on a particular issue is -- whatever that issue might be.

[Creepn]

A confederate flag Bikini is no more racist than FUBU pants.

lol You seriously cannot compare the two. I don't feel black supremacy and white slave advocating when I see a black guy wearing those clothes.

[Vici]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8hPo6mYnks

[scott]

But it's ok to venerate the racist republic that declared independence in 1776, the founding fathers or Abe Lincoln?

It's bogus... It's a boogieman. No one flying a CF is advocating slavery. Everyone was racist. Most people of all colors still are to some degree. Hawaii and Alaska were admitted to the union before the civil rights act... We going to go after the stars and bars next?

A confederate flag Bikini is no more racist than FUBU pants.

Here is an example of what I see a lot in the defence of the confederate flag: "THEY WERE RACISTS TOO!!!" But it didn't really provide a reason why anyone wants to fly a confederate flag.

The American flag isn't seen as a sign of racism whereas the Confederate Flag is for a pretty simple reasons:

The United States of America won. The Confederate Stats of America lost.

For right or wrong, winner gets to write the history books. Had Hitler been able to conquer the planet, few of us would have a problem with the Nazi flag and we'd see American and British flags as signs of an ancient enemy.

In this case, I happen to believe the "right" side won both the civil war (and WWII) but the point is that's why no one goes after the American flag as a sign of racism, or a sign of the injustices towards native Americans, etc. The USofA won, and has since changed its ways. The Confederate States lost and was broken up as nation in support of slavery.

Should Russia, or Georgia, or the Ukraine, etc. have commemorative USSR license plates? Should Bavaria make a special National Socialists license plate? How about a Barbarian Horde license plate in Prussia or a Babylonia plate in Iraq?

[scott]

Anyone who can provide a reason for wanting to fly a Confederate Flag, either on your truck, on your house or even in the privacy of your own home... please chime in.

For the record, I support anyone's right to fly whatever flag they want. I also support the right of other people to form judgements about you and believe you have no place to complain when everyone thinks your a Nazi when you fly a Nazi flag ("it's not fair people just assume!!!"). But I don't think ANY foreign flag, especially ones of countries that don't even exist anymore, should be on state-issued license plates.

[vy65]

Anyone who can provide a reason for wanting to fly a Confederate Flag, either on your truck, on your house or even in the privacy of your own home... please chime in.

For the record, I support anyone's right to fly whatever flag they want. I also support the right of other people to form judgements about you and believe you have no place to complain when everyone thinks your a Nazi when you fly a Nazi flag ("it's not fair people just assume!!!"). But I don't think ANY foreign flag, especially ones of countries that don't even exist anymore, should be on state-issued license plates.

Do you think the sons of confederate veterans have a right to meet in a public park?

[scott]

Do you think the sons of confederate veterans have a right to meet in a public park?

Yes. The can even bring a giant confederate flag with them for all I care.

[vy65]

Yes. The can even bring a giant confederate flag with them for all I care.

Then what differentiates a license plate from a public park? They're both government property, right?

[Vici]

People are idiots and find everything offensive.

Obviously the Civil War was about slavery AND state's rights. There is no way around it. For those who think the federal government has way too much power it means one thing, to those who want to see a racist symbol they do.

I don't have an opinion either way.

I do know people are way to sensitive in this country about everything. I could post an image of the German Coat of Arms and some idiot would cry that I was a racist. Who gives a shit? Symbols mean different things to different people, move on.

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSaKa6cc77TJnTpHa6kLjTTJXGL43Hfh 9q3JpQgV3hCNa0BOxYr

[Spurminator]

Then what differentiates a license plate from a public park? They're both government property, right?

Your analogy is flawed. A SOCV license plate is a single thing that has to be created by Texas. A public park exists regardless of whether SOCV groups meet there or not. The state does not designate SOCV public parks.

[vy65]

Your analogy is flawed. A SOCV license plate is a single thing that has to be created by Texas. A public park exists regardless of whether SOCV groups meet there or not. The state does not designate SOCV public parks.

They're both government property being used for speech. Whether it has to be created (and who creates it) is irrelevant.

[vy65]

Your analogy is flawed. A SOCV license plate is a single thing that has to be created by Texas. A public park exists regardless of whether SOCV groups meet there or not. The state does not designate SOCV public parks.

Plus, the government has "opened up" license plates by allowing other groups to express their message on them. The case law treats this as a "public forum," meaning that people should have access to license plates to express their viewpoints.

[Spurminator]

They're both government property being used for speech. Whether it has to be created (and who creates it) is irrelevant.

Except the speech on a license plate has to be created, thus sanctioned, by the government. The government won't make banners and special napkins for your SOCV get-togethers.

You are free to print 30 SOCV bumper stickers and plaster them all over your car.

[scott]

They're both government property being used for speech. Whether it has to be created (and who creates it) is irrelevant.

Not really. The park exists and requires no expenditure of public funds in order for a bunch of racists to meet there, if they choose.

Creating a license plate, on the other hand, requires specific effort and expenditure.

So pretty much exactly what Spurminator said.

[scott]

Plus, the government has "opened up" license plates by allowing other groups to express their message on them. The case law treats this as a "public forum," meaning that people should have access to license plates to express their viewpoints.

If there are other license plates used for groups/causes such as this, I object to those too.

I would object to a Black Panther, La Raza, Muslim League, I "Star of David" Jewish Girls, NAMBLA, Laker Fan license plates just as readily.

[vy65]

But the state has to pay for the park's upkeep.

You don't think allowing a hate group on public property sends a message that the government is condoning that group's message?

[vy65]

If there are other license plates used for groups/causes such as this, I object to those too.

So then you think the government has the right to prevent the kkk from meeting in a park?

Edit: I see your point. The only problem is that the government "opened up" license plates - and - incurred first amendment obligations in doing so.

[scott]

But the state has to pay for the park's upkeep.

It's a sunk cost that will be incurred with or without that group meeting on it. If any group causes damages to public grounds beyond reasonable wear and tear expected from anyone using it, they should be billed for those damages.


You don't think allowing a hate group on public property sends a message that the government is condoning that group's message?

No, not at all actually.

[Blake]

Personally, if the klan has a constitutional right to have a rally at a public park, I don't see a good reason why you shouldn't have a constitutional right to have a confederate flag on a license plate.



Do you even know what strawman means?

do you know what a false analogy means?

[scott]

Here is a list of all the approved licenses plates representing organizations. I don't see any that are overtly politically based or offensive. Though I think some of them are overtly stupid.

4-H
A Fine Cause
Adopt-A-Beach
Air Force Association
American Quarter Horse Association
Animal Friendly
Be A Blood Donor
Big Bend National Park
Big Brothers Big Sisters
Boy Scouts of America
CASA - Court Appointed Special Advocate
Coastal Conservation
College for all Texans
Cotton Boll
Deaf/Hard Of Hearing
Ducks Unlimited - Blue Heron
Ducks Unlimited - Classic
El Paso Mission Valley
Fight Terrorism
Florida Alumni Association
Girl Scouts
Go Texan II Farm Trailer
Go Texan II Farm Truck
Go Texan II Farm Truck > 1 Ton
Go Texan II Farm Truck Tractor
Go Texan II Token Trailer
Go Texan II Trailer
Go Texan II Truck > 1 Ton
Go Texan Passenger Car or Truck
God Bless America
God Bless Texas
Houston Livestock Show and Rodeo
Insure Texas Kids
Keep Texas Beautiful
Knights of Columbus
LSU Alumni Association
March of Dimes
Marine Mammal Recovery
Mothers Against Drunk Driving
Native Texan
Organ Donor
Read to Succeed
Red Grapefruit
Rotary International
San Jacinto Texas Historic District
Share The Road
Smile Texas Style
Space Shuttle Columbia
Special Olympics Texas
State Capitol
State of the Arts
Stop Child Abuse
Texans Conquer Cancer
Texas Aerospace Commission
Texas Lions Camp
Texas Masons
Texas Master Gardener
Texas Music
Texas Parks and Wildlife Conserv - Bluebonnet
Texas Parks and Wildlife Conserv - Horned Lizard
Texas Parks and Wildlife Conserv - Largemouth Bass
Texas Parks and Wildlife Conserv - Whitetail Deer
Texas Reads
Texas State Rifle Association
Texas Trails
Texas Young Lawyers
Texas.-It's Like a Whole Other Country
United States Olympic Committee
United We Stand
Urban Forestry
YMCA

[scott]

So then you think the government has the right to prevent the kkk from meeting in a park?

Edit: I see your point. The only problem is that the government "opened up" license plates - and - incurred first amendment obligations in doing so.

No, I don't think they have the right to prevent the kkk from meeting in a park so long as they were not violating any other laws or ordinances. That is speech, and I believe in free speech and the first amendment.

Where my opinion is that license plates don't fall under free speech because no one has the right to have public funds devoted to creating you a license plate. You do, however, have the right to buy your own flag or bumper sticker or even paint your entire truck like a confederate flag if you want.

[Spurminator]

Frankly, I've always thought the idea of personalized LPs is unnecessary. You have plenty of bumper space to tell people what school you went to or what cause you support, if doing so on your car is so important to you.

[vy65]

Here is a list of all the approved licenses plates representing organizations. I don't see any that are overtly politically based or offensive. Though I think some of them are overtly stupid.

I don't know what makes something overtly political or not. Some of those groups definitely express a political leaning to me.

[vy65]

do you know what a false analogy means?

lol cuck

[scott]

Frankly, I've always thought the idea of personalized LPs is unnecessary. You have plenty of bumper space to tell people what school you went to or what cause you support, if doing so on your car is so important to you.

+1.

I guess the state is looking to make some money any way they can though.

[z0sa]

Every war is about money.

[vy65]

No, I don't think they have the right to prevent the kkk from meeting in a park so long as they were not violating any other laws or ordinances. That is speech, and I believe in free speech and the first amendment.

Where my opinion is that license plates don't fall under free speech because no one has the right to have public funds devoted to creating you a license plate. You do, however, have the right to buy your own flag or bumper sticker or even paint your entire truck like a confederate flag if you want.

You're right. The problem is when the government opens up property it owns to allow groups to organize/meet/"speak." Once a state allows groups to use government property to "advertise" its message, it can't turn around and deprive other groups similar "advertising" just because it doesn't like that group's message or ideology.

[Wild Cobra]

Why are liberal pansies afraid of the Battle Flag?

[vy65]

I'd like to hear the argument why the Boy Scouts of America or Freemasons can advertise/advocate their groups on a license plate, but not the SOCV?

[vy65]

Why are liberal pansies afraid of the Battle Flag?

You're a fucking moron.

[Wild Cobra]

You're a fucking moron.
Say what you will you hate filled bigot. What ever happened to acceptance of others beliefs? Instead, you are what you say you are against.

A BIGOT!

[Spurminator]

Well it was a good adult conversation until WC chimed in.

[Wild Cobra]

Well it was a good adult conversation until WC chimed in.
I just cannot stand intolerant bigots.

[Blake]

Frankly, I've always thought the idea of personalized LPs is unnecessary. You have plenty of bumper space to tell people what school you went to or what cause you support, if doing so on your car is so important to you.

I have no problem with extra cash for the state if people want to buy silly plates.

[scott]

I just cannot stand intolerant bigots.

http://assets.diylol.com/hfs/c9a/027/670/resized/datable-beard-man-meme-generator-i-m-gonna-keep-your-blood-alchol-levels-low-so-you-don-t-feel-taken-advantage-of-d603a6.jpg

[Blake]

lol cuck

It was already obvious you didn't know.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Say what you will you hate filled bigot. What ever happened to acceptance of others beliefs? Instead, you are what you say you are against.

A BIGOT!

I have nothing but contempt for you, parts-changer. You can sign me up for the bigot against sophistry bandwagon as well.

[Blake]

I'd like to hear the argument why the Boy Scouts of America or Freemasons can advertise/advocate their groups on a license plate, but not the SOCV?

because having a personalized license plate made by the state is not a constitutional right.

go get a bumper sticker.

[ElNono]

I just cannot stand intolerant bigots.

Don't look in the mirror much, do you? :lol

[vy65]

because having a personalized license plate made by the state is not a constitutional right.

go get a bumper sticker.


Once a state allows groups to use government property to "advertise" its message, it can't turn around and deprive other groups similar "advertising" just because it doesn't like that group's message or ideology.

lol missing the whole point
lol cuck
lol broadcasting cuckoldry on internet
lol if you weren't so fucking dumb maybe your wife wouldn't have gotten porked by some strange

[vy65]

Just because our Foundling fathers had slaves doesn't mean they agreed with slavery.

[Blake]

Once a state allows groups to use government property to "advertise" its message, it can't turn around and deprive other groups similar "advertising" just because it doesn't like that group's message or ideology.

yes it can.

you're as stupid as Wild Cobra

[Blake]

lol missing the whole point
lol cuck
lol broadcasting cuckoldry on internet
lol if you weren't so fucking dumb maybe your wife wouldn't have gotten porked by some strange

lol sidestepping the whole point

[vy65]

Lamb's Chapel v. Center Moriches Union Free School Dist., 508 U.S. __, __ (1993). The necessities of confining a forum to the limited and legitimate purposes for which it was created may justify the State in reserving it for certain groups or for the discussion of certain topics. See, e.g., Cornelius v. NAACP Legal Defense & Ed. Fund, Inc., 473 U.S. 788, 806 (1985); Perry Ed. Assn., supra, at 49. Once it has opened a limited forum, however, the State must respect the lawful boundaries it has itself set. The State may not exclude speech where its distinction is not "reasonable in light of the purpose served by the forum," Cornelius, supra, at 804-806; see also Perry Ed. Assn., supra, at 46, 49, nor may it discriminate against speech on the basis of its viewpoint, Lamb's Chapel, supra, at __ ; see also Perry Ed. Assn., supra, at 46; R.A.V., supra, at ___; cf. Texas v. Johnson, 491 U.S. 397, 414-415 (1989). Thus, in determining whether the State is acting to preserve the limits of the forum it has created so that the exclusion of a class of speech is legitimate, we have observed a distinction between, on the one hand, content discrimination, which may be permissible if it preserves the purposes of that limited forum, and, on the other hand, viewpoint discrimination, which is presumed impermissible when directed against speech otherwise within the forum's limitations. See Perry Ed. Assn., supra, at 46.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/historics/USSC_CR_0515_0819_ZO.html

lol cuckold

[Blake]

Lamb's Chapel v. Center Moriches Union Free School Dist., 508 U.S. __, __ (1993). The necessities of confining a forum to the limited and legitimate purposes for which it was created may justify the State in reserving it for certain groups or for the discussion of certain topics. See, e.g., Cornelius v. NAACP Legal Defense & Ed. Fund, Inc., 473 U.S. 788, 806 (1985); Perry Ed. Assn., supra, at 49. Once it has opened a limited forum, however, the State must respect the lawful boundaries it has itself set. The State may not exclude speech where its distinction is not "reasonable in light of the purpose served by the forum," Cornelius, supra, at 804-806; see also Perry Ed. Assn., supra, at 46, 49, nor may it discriminate against speech on the basis of its viewpoint, Lamb's Chapel, supra, at __ ; see also Perry Ed. Assn., supra, at 46; R.A.V., supra, at ___; cf. Texas v. Johnson, 491 U.S. 397, 414-415 (1989). Thus, in determining whether the State is acting to preserve the limits of the forum it has created so that the exclusion of a class of speech is legitimate, we have observed a distinction between, on the one hand, content discrimination, which may be permissible if it preserves the purposes of that limited forum, and, on the other hand, viewpoint discrimination, which is presumed impermissible when directed against speech otherwise within the forum's limitations. See Perry Ed. Assn., supra, at 46.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/historics/USSC_CR_0515_0819_ZO.html

lol cuckold

A license plate doesn't fall under freedom of speech.


Q. Is the TxDMV, or My Plates, under an obligation to produce my
specialty license plate design?

A. No. Every license plate design issued in the state of Texas must be approved by the TxDMV board.

http://ftp.dot.state.tx.us/pub/txdot-info/vtr/slp_brochure.pdf

lol sock puppet

lol dumber than Wild Cobra

[vy65]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wooley_v._Maynard

lol cucked for years

[scott]

tbh, you clowns need to take your bs back to The Club forum.

[Borat Sagyidev]

Why are liberal pansies afraid of the Battle Flag?

Not really afraid, it's easier to spot scum that way. How else would the righteous find a way to bash their head in? I say show those flags, swastikas, white gowns with pride.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Y5X18HbVOMo/TbELZDCrP7I/AAAAAAAAAL4/d4Jq4xxHrJo/s1600/nj2.jpg

[DMC]

Like all wars, it was about money and power. The poor white man was dead beside the poor black man, neither with shoes to wear, while the rich white man was warm in his home (on both sides, some too warm in Atlanta).

[Blake]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wooley_v._Maynard

lol cucked for years

Citizens of new hampshire wanted a phrase removed from their license plates.

You want to force the state to put something on the plate.

Big difference.

lol sock puppets

[MaNuMaNiAc]

Say what you will you hate filled bigot. What ever happened to acceptance of others beliefs? Instead, you are what you say you are against.

A BIGOT!

pff.. it always amuses me when bigots cry over intolerance.

A racist doesn't have the moral high ground or right to demand tolerance for his intolerance.

[Wild Cobra]

pff.. it always amuses me when bigots cry over intolerance.

A racist doesn't have the moral high ground or right to demand tolerance for his intolerance.
Just because the rebel flag is a sign of oppression to some, it doesn't mean that people who like it, like it for that reason.

That's why I say the idea it stands for racism is the intolerant idea.

[ElNono]

Just because the rebel flag is a sign of oppression to some, it doesn't mean that people who like it, like it for that reason.

That's why I say the idea it stands for racism is the intolerant idea.

It's the flag behind this idea:

“We hold as undeniable truths that the governments of the various States, and of the confederacy itself, were established exclusively by the white race, for themselves and their posterity; that the African race had no agency in their establishment; that they were rightfully held and regarded as an inferior and dependent race, and in that condition only could their existence in this country be rendered beneficial or tolerable.”


You're just too stupid to own up to it.

[Wild Cobra]

It's the flag behind this idea:

“We hold as undeniable truths that the governments of the various States, and of the confederacy itself, were established exclusively by the white race, for themselves and their posterity; that the African race had no agency in their establishment; that they were rightfully held and regarded as an inferior and dependent race, and in that condition only could their existence in this country be rendered beneficial or tolerable.”


You're just too stupid to own up to it.

It doesn't matter that someone applied the flag to that.

Do you really believe that everyone who likes the rebel flag is that way?

Why can't you liberals learn tolerance?

[ElNono]

It doesn't matter that someone applied the flag to that.

Sure it matters. The declaration predates the creation of the flag. The flag is merely a symbol to that declaration. You're just too dumb to understand that the flag and the declaration are one and the same.

Just like Swastikas represent the Nazi party.


Why can't you liberals learn tolerance?

It's not just liberals that don't tolerate racists like you.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

Just because the rebel flag is a sign of oppression to some, it doesn't mean that people who like it, like it for that reason.

That's why I say the idea it stands for racism is the intolerant idea.

Yeah, and the Swastika is just an ancient Hindu good luck symbol... give me a fucking break!

[Spurminator]

Why can't you liberals learn tolerance?

Why can't you cheerleaders keep up with a debate that doesn't fall neatly along party lines?

[Wild Cobra]

Yeah, and the Swastika is just an ancient Hindu good luck symbol... give me a fucking break!
Now if we had any Hindu's displaying their cultural variety of one, you probable wouldn't even think it a swastika... They do look a little different!

[jack sommerset]

I have nothing against blacks, I just want to own one or two of them. (not racist)

[vy65]

Citizens of new hampshire wanted a phrase removed from their license plates.

You want to force the state to put something on the plate.

Big difference.

lol sock puppets

Lol moving goalposts
Lol shitty reading comprehension skills

[Blake]

Lol moving goalposts
Lol shitty reading comprehension skills

It was your failed analogy, not mine.

Sorry you can't comprehend your failure.

lol sock puppets

[RandomGuy]

Why can't you liberals learn tolerance?

:lmao

Oh the irony, WC lecturing others on tolerance.

Good one.

[Agloco]

No one flying a CF is advocating slavery.

What are they advocating? If it's states rights, why not fly their states flag then?


A confederate flag Bikini is no more racist than FUBU pants.

:lol

If you had said "Black Panther" brand pants, I'd have been on board with this.

[Agloco]

I just cannot stand intolerant bigots.

:lol

Where's that surgeon troll when you need him?

[DMX7]

If only we were all as accepting of racism as WC...

[DMX7]

Is there any doubt that if we were living in the pre-civil war era that both WC and Glenn Beck would be slaveholders and staunch advocates of a Confederacy? Of course there isn't.

States' rights!!! lol

[Wild Cobra]

Why are some of you blind to the other angle of perceived racism? As often as I point out important aspects of our racial divide, the real aspect I point out seems to go completely ignored.

Who's being biased by staying closed minded?

[Wild Cobra]

If only we were all as accepting of racism as WC...
No, the problem is that I don't accept racism. It is you and others, who believe that minorities still are inferior, so you want to give them special treatment. Like quota's.

[clambake]

you embrace it.

[DMX7]

you embrace it.

It's his credo.



No, the problem is that I don't accept racism. It is you and others, who believe that minorities still are inferior, so you want to give them special treatment. Like quota's.

LOL, back to quotas. That myth has been thoroughly debunked. No one here is advocating for quotas, and the courts have not allowed quotas to be used in hiring or college admissions policies. Just pulling shit out of your ass as usual.

[DMX7]

I don't like most black people. There are very few who I have met that grew up in a cultural setting I have any respect for. Most I have met are out right thugs, and lack integrity. I could say I don't like black people, but there are some exceptions. If I based all my decisions on statistics, I would stay clear of blacks.

Oh, and It's also a good thing WC doesn't base his decision on statistics.

[Wild Cobra]

Oh, and It's also a good thing WC doesn't base his decision on statistics.
Liking and disliking people for their actions is not the same as judging them by race, or thinking they are inferior because of race like those who support quota systems do.

[cantthinkofanything]

Liking and disliking people for their actions is not the same as judging them by race, or thinking they are inferior because of race like those who support quota systems do.

You just said earlier that "I don't like most black people". I don't know where you live but I doubt that you've even met 10% of all black people. How can you say you don't like most of them?

[Agloco]

You just said earlier that "I don't like most black people". I don't know where you live but I doubt that you've even met 10% of all black people. How can you say you don't like most of them?

To be fair, he likes his surgeon.

[cantthinkofanything]

To be fair, he likes his surgeon.

He probably doesn't realize he is black.

[clambake]

not once does he ever mention legacy students.

[scott]

You ankle biters just don't get it.