Notable playoff stats for legendary perimeter players at 33 years old.

[midnightpulp]

(leaving out shooting percentage because it's obviously unimportant)

Michael Jordan: 31, 8, 5

Larry Bird: 24.4, 9, 9

Elgin Baylor: 28.5, 14, 4

Jerry West: 23, 5, 9

Alex English (at 34!) 24, 5.4, 4.4

'Nique: 30, 5.3, 3

Dirk Nowitzki (don't try to spin it, he's a perimeter player): 27.7, 8.1, 2.5

Kobe Bryant: 22.8, 3.4, 3.3

Discuss.

[Giuseppe]

...

Kobe: 5

tired old shit bag Duncan: 4

[midnightpulp]

Oh, and how can forget the man that swept the Rich Man's Latrell Spreewell.

Dirk Nowitzki (don't try to spin it, he's a perimeter player):

27.7, 8.1, 2.5.

[LkrFan]

I'll give you a C- for originality. :lol

But I'll play along. Kobe did not even play very much in the playoffs his first couple of years. Even though we both know you know this you post this dumb ass thread. Props. :lol

[midnightpulp]

I'll give you a C- for originality. :lol

But I'll play along. Kobe did not even play very much in the playoffs his first couple of years. Even though we both know you know this you post this dumb ass thread. Props. :lol

http://empowerwithpr.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/spin.jpg

[midnightpulp]

I'll give you a C- for originality. :lol

But I'll play along. Kobe did not even play very much in the playoffs his first couple of years. Even though we both know you know this you post this dumb ass thread. Props. :lol

And are you fuckin' retarded? What does him not playing in the playoffs his first couple of years have to do with the stats he puts up as a 32/33 year old?

Do you think these are career averages? :lol

[LkrFan]

http://empowerwithpr.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/spin.jpg

:downspin:

[Deuce Bigalow]

Kobe was 32 in 2011 Playoffs

[midnightpulp]

Kobe was 32 in 2011 Playoffs

Lol. 32 and 9 months old. "B-B-But he was 32!"

Want me to compare him to these players when they were a year younger? It's even worse.

[Deuce Bigalow]

Lol. 32 and 9 months old. "B-B-But he was 32!"

Want me to compare him to these players when they were a year younger? It's even worse.

did those players come off of going to 3 straight finals?
or have knee, ankle, and finger injuries?
or in their 15th season?

thought so

[LkrFan]

did those players come off of going to 3 straight finals?
or have knee, ankle, and finger injuries?
or in their 15th season?

thought so

Never mind him Deuce. His beloved Spurs are about to be irrelevant again and only thing he has left to hold on is hate for all things Lakers. :lol

[Deuce Bigalow]

http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lm3q81U49t1qa6arxo1_250.jpg

[midnightpulp]

did those players come off of going to 3 straight finals?
or have knee, ankle, and finger injuries?
or in their 15th season?

thought so

Excuses, excuses.

[LkrFan]

http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lm3q81U49t1qa6arxo1_250.jpg

:toast

[midnightpulp]

:toast

Lol. Have to resort to ring smack because you got owned.

[Dunc n Dave]

stats don't lie. Kobe is done. Hey, it was to be expected. For all the plusses there are to coming into the league right out of high school, the negative is that all the mileage catches up to you and the decline starts earlier than those who went to college.

And don't try to spin it and bring Duncan into the discussion. He's a post player in a league where the rules allow you get away with murder in the paint, but you can't touch a guy on the perimeter. This is strictly about perimeter players.

[LkrFan]

Lol. Have to resort to ring smack because you got owned.

You sure talk about owning people a lot. Are you fat, old, white, and from the South? :downspin:

[ElNono]

did those players come off of going to 3 straight finals?
or have knee, ankle, and finger injuries?
or in their 15th season?

:lol injury excuses
:lol none of those players were swept
:lol not their fault Kobe is a tired old shitbag

[Giuseppe]

not their fault Kobe is a tired old shitbag

I'm a trend setter.

I set trends.

[midnightpulp]

Kobe ain't a tired old shitbag. He's a glorified Latrell Spreewell.

[LkrFan]

:lol injury excuses
:lol none of those players were swept
:lol not their fault Kobe is a tired old shitbag

ElNono - will TD surpass 13/8 if there is a season? :downspin:

[ElNono]

ElNono - will TD surpass 13/8 if there is a season? :downspin:

:lol a season

http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll43/myknsj/DJSPIN.gif

[midnightpulp]

ElNono - will TD surpass 13/8 if there is a season? :downspin:

Will Kobe surpass 22, 3, 3 if there's a season?

[LkrFan]

Will Kobe surpass 22, 3, 3 if there's a season?

Yes. I guarantee it.

[DMC]

I'll give you a C- for originality. :lol

But I'll play along. Kobe did not even play very much in the playoffs his first couple of years. Even though we both know you know this you post this dumb ass thread. Props. :lol
MPG doesn't count.

[DMC]

did those players come off of going to 3 straight finals?
or have knee, ankle, and finger injuries?
or in their 15th season?

thought so
Championships don't matter

MPG don't matter

These are your criteria.

[LkrFan]

MPG doesn't count.

:downspin:

[Dunc n Dave]

ElNono - will TD surpass 13/8 if there is a season? :downspin:

Stick to the topic at hand: Duncan is not a perimeter player.

Laker fans talk high and mighty about Kobe's spot on the all time scoring list making him one of the greatest ever, despite him having a few years head start on most of those guys on the list.

Yet, they fail to recognize that the downfall is it's effect on his productivity in his mid 30's. If he truly is 2nd to only MJ at his position, why the significant difference in stats compared to the other perimeter greats?

If anything his scoring at his age should be WAY AHEAD of those guys, since today's NBA rules cater to guys like him.

[Giuseppe]

^He's going for the scoring title. And everybody knows it. Stern. Only Stern can stop him. Like he stopped Malone. He may too. Kobe owes Stern for standing with him in Eagle. But, if Stern grants permish, it's over. Kobe will bury it.

[Dunc n Dave]

^He's going for the scoring title. And everybody knows it. Stern. Only Stern can stop him. Like he stopped Malone. He may too. Kobe owes Stern for standing with him in Eagle. But, if Stern grants permish, it's over. Kobe will bury it.

IF you are right Cubby, and If Kobe's trying to reach #1 on the list, why are his scoring stats so much lower than the other perimeter greats? Shouldn't he be averaging 26-28ppg if that is the ultimate goal? The stats show he'll run out of gas before he reaches #1.

Unless Kobe finishes his career WAY AHEAD of him, Karl Malone's points totals and longevity are more impressive, seeing as how he had 4 years of college and still played 19 NBA seasons, in a position where he took more of a daily beating than Kobe ever has.

[Giuseppe]

IF you are right Cubby, and If Kobe's trying to reach #1 on the list, why are his scoring stats so much lower than the other perimeter greats? Shouldn't he be averaging 26-28ppg if that is the ultimate goal? The stats show he'll run out of gas before he reaches #1.

Unless Kobe finishes his career WAY AHEAD of him, Karl Malone's points totals and longevity are more impressive, seeing as how he had 4 years of college and still played 19 NBA seasons, in a position where he took more of a daily beating than Kobe ever has.

Kobe didn't waste 1-4 years in college.

If he can't win a title (and he's knows when it's within sight or not) he'll pile the points, like he did prior to Gasol coming west. Kobe doesn't care about pretense. That dream ended in Eagle. Kobe doesn't care about discourse. That dream ended in Eagle. He cares about raw results. He retired Daddy 1 up. He matched Magic. If he has to, he'll go elsewhere to chase Jabbar's record. If Stern babysits him, he'll bury it.

[Dunc n Dave]

Kobe didn't waste 1-4 years in college.

Exactly why him being where he is on the scoring list is not all that impressive. Same as Moses Malone, he had several years head start on guys who did go to college. Two guys play 18 years in the league, one of them from age 22 to 40, the other guy from age 18 to 36. Who had the more impressive career? I take Guy A.


If he can't win a title (and he's knows when it's within sight or not) he'll pile the points, like he did prior to Gasol coming west. Kobe doesn't care about pretense. That dream ended in Eagle. Kobe doesn't care about discourse. That dream ended in Eagle. He cares about raw results. He retired Daddy 1 up. He matched Magic. If he has to, he'll go elsewhere to chase Jabbar's record. If Stern babysits him, he'll bury it.

So if Mike Brown turns out to be a failure at managing Kobe's ego they way he failed to manage Lebron's (remember how he quit on the Cavs and couldn't wait to leave), you are saying Kobe will go into chucker mode and shoot his team right out of contention?

Problem is, Kobe can't dominate games anymore the way he did from '05 to '07where he had that string of 50 pt games. If he tried doing that now, the Lakers would go 1-9 that month while Kobe shot 34% from the field. You think Artest is crazy now, wait til he sees THAT Kobe come out to play.

[Giuseppe]

Exactly why him being where he is on the scoring list is not all that impressive. Same as Moses Malone, he had several years head start on guys who did go to college. Two guys play 18 years in the league, one of them from age 22 to 40, the other guy from age 18 to 36. Who had the more impressive career? I take Guy A.



So if Mike Brown turns out to be a failure at managing Kobe's ego they way he failed to manage Lebron's (remember how he quit on the Cavs and couldn't wait to leave), you are saying Kobe will go into chucker mode and shoot his team right out of contention?

Problem is, Kobe can't dominate games anymore the way he did from '05 to '07where he had that string of 50 pt games. If he tried doing that now, the Lakers would go 1-9 that month while Kobe shot 34% from the field. You think Artest is crazy now, wait til he sees THAT Kobe come out to play.

You know, Dunc, you're a real-time fuck.

[LkrFan]

IF you are right Cubby, and If Kobe's trying to reach #1 on the list, why are his scoring stats so much lower than the other perimeter greats? Shouldn't he be averaging 26-28ppg if that is the ultimate goal? The stats show he'll run out of gas before he reaches #1.

Unless Kobe finishes his career WAY AHEAD of him, Karl Malone's points totals and longevity are more impressive, seeing as how he had 4 years of college and still played 19 NBA seasons, in a position where he took more of a daily beating than Kobe ever has.

HELLO this ain't 2006! :lol We don't need 35.4ppg from Kobe nowadays. Surely if we needed him to pump in 30+ he can still do that. :wakeup

[Dunc n Dave]

You know, Dunc, you're a real-time fuck.

There's the Cubby I know and love. I've missed the REAL you... You know, the one that refuses to have a REAL bball discussion, because he's too busy trollin'

Come ta pappy!

lmcontrollinao!

lm(about to be)emulatedao!

[Dunc n Dave]

HELLO this ain't 2006! :lol We don't need 35.4ppg from Kobe nowadays. Surely if we needed him to pump in 30+ he can still do that. :wakeup

:lolSure... he could give you 30+ consistently this year... but it would come on 9/29 shooting from the field with 10/12 FT's.... CONSISTENTLY...

[Nathan89]

HELLO this ain't 2006! :lol We don't need 35.4ppg from Kobe nowadays. Surely if we needed him to pump in 30+ he can still do that. :wakeup

I guess the Lakers didn't need it in the second round:downspin:

[Spur_Fanatic]

I'll give you a C- for originality. :lol

But I'll play along. Kobe did not even play very much in the playoffs his first couple of years. Even though we both know you know this you post this dumb ass thread. Props. :lol

...

Welcome to SpursTalk?

:downspin:

[DMC]

HELLO this ain't 2006! :lol We don't need 35.4ppg from Kobe nowadays. Surely if we needed him to pump in 30+ he can still do that. :wakeup
MPG don't count

[LkrFan]

FYI for Dumb n Dave:

Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/a/abdulka01.html) *383872.
Karl Malone (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/m/malonka01.html) *369283
Michael Jordan (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01.html) *322924
Wilt Chamberlain (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/c/chambwi01.html) *314195
Shaquille O'Neal (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/o/onealsh01.html) 285966
Kobe Bryant (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/bryanko01.html) 27868

By end of next season, he will be #5 all-time. Where is TOSB on this list? ;)

[LkrFan]

I guess the Lakers didn't need it in the second round:downspin:

Touche'

[Dunc n Dave]

FYI for Dumb n Dave:

Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/a/abdulka01.html) *383872.
Karl Malone (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/m/malonka01.html) *369283
Michael Jordan (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01.html) *322924
Wilt Chamberlain (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/c/chambwi01.html) *314195
Shaquille O'Neal (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/o/onealsh01.html) 285966
Kobe Bryant (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/bryanko01.html) 27868

By end of next season, he will be #5 all-time. Where is TOSB on this list? ;)

And all the guys ahead of him on the list went to college, meaning Kobe passing them is not impressive when he started at 18/19 yrs old and they all started at 20-22 . So what's your point again? This is about perimeter players, or did your fucktard brain forget what thread you are in already?

[joshdaboss]

did those players come off of going to 3 straight finals?
or have knee, ankle, and finger injuries?
or in their 15th season?

thought so

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

[LkrFan]

And all the guys ahead of him on the list went to college, meaning Kobe passing them is not impressive when he started at 18/19 yrs old and they all started at 20-22 . So what's your point again? This is about perimeter players, or did your fucktard brain forget what thread you are in already?

Dumb n Dumber, first off Kobe was drafted at age 17. Second, he was in a seat belt until Eddie Jones had an injury when he was 19. So for him to be #6 all-time after really 13 years of work is pretty damn impressive (even if your dumbass won't admit it).

Timmy Tongue Ring Duncan is #21 in total rebounds. :lol

[Deuce Bigalow]

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

he has a permanently arthritic finger since 08

[Deuce Bigalow]

And all the guys ahead of him on the list went to college, meaning Kobe passing them is not impressive when he started at 18/19 yrs old and they all started at 20-22 . So what's your point again? This is about perimeter players, or did your fucktard brain forget what thread you are in already?

Kobe didnt become a starter till his 3rd year, and in that 3rd year there was only 50 games
so Kobe didnt play a full season as a starter until his 4th year, age 21

[LkrFan]

Active scorers:

1. Shaquille O'Neal 28,596 (+692)
2. Kobe Bryant 27,904
3. Kevin Garnett 23,323 (-4,581)
4. Dirk Nowitzki 22,792 (-5,112)
5. Ray Allen 22,286 (-5,618)
6. Tim Duncan 21,663 (-6,241) :lol
7. Paul Pierce 21,410 (-6,494)
8. Vince Carter 20,520 (-7,384)
9. Antawn Jamison 18,128 (-9,776)
10. Tracy McGrady 18,108 (-9,796)
11. LeBron James 17,362 (-10,542)
12. Jason Kidd 16,772 (-11,132)
13. Grant Hill 16,545 (-11,359)
14. Juwan Howard 16,096 (-11,808)
15. Steve Nash 15,877 (-12,027)
16. Jason Terry 15,537 (-12,367)
17. Chauncey Billups 15,247 (-12,657)
18. Shawn Marion 15,151 (-12,753)
19. Elton Brand 15,065 (-12,839)
20. Richard Hamilton 14,892 (-13,012)
21. Rashard Lewis 14,809 (-13,095)
22. Mike Bibby 14,595 (-13,309)
23. Andre Miller 14,071 (-13,833)
24. Peja Stojakovic 13,647 (-14,257)
25. Baron Davis 13,269 (-14,635)
26. Jermaine O'Neal 12,381 (-15,523)

Look at Kobe and his peers. He is on Shaq's ass and Shaq's been the man (#1 option) since day one. Kobe didn't become #1 option until 2006 - his 10th year in the league. :downspin:

[Deuce Bigalow]

Active scorers:

1. Shaquille O'Neal 28,596 (+692)
2. Kobe Bryant 27,904
3. Kevin Garnett 23,323 (-4,581)
4. Dirk Nowitzki 22,792 (-5,112)
5. Ray Allen 22,286 (-5,618)
6. Tim Duncan 21,663 (-6,241) :lol
7. Paul Pierce 21,410 (-6,494)
8. Vince Carter 20,520 (-7,384)
9. Antawn Jamison 18,128 (-9,776)
10. Tracy McGrady 18,108 (-9,796)
11. LeBron James 17,362 (-10,542)
12. Jason Kidd 16,772 (-11,132)
13. Grant Hill 16,545 (-11,359)
14. Juwan Howard 16,096 (-11,808)
15. Steve Nash 15,877 (-12,027)
16. Jason Terry 15,537 (-12,367)
17. Chauncey Billups 15,247 (-12,657)
18. Shawn Marion 15,151 (-12,753)
19. Elton Brand 15,065 (-12,839)
20. Richard Hamilton 14,892 (-13,012)
21. Rashard Lewis 14,809 (-13,095)
22. Mike Bibby 14,595 (-13,309)
23. Andre Miller 14,071 (-13,833)
24. Peja Stojakovic 13,647 (-14,257)
25. Baron Davis 13,269 (-14,635)
26. Jermaine O'Neal 12,381 (-15,523)

Look at Kobe and his peers. He is on Shaq's ass and Shaq's been the man (#1 option) since day one. Kobe didn't become #1 option until 2006 - his 10th year in the league. :downspin:

actually until the 2002-03 season
and didnt get the "green light" until the 2004-05 season

[Dunc n Dave]

Dumb n Dumber, first off Kobe was drafted at age 17. Second, he was in a seat belt until Eddie Jones had an injury when he was 19. So for him to be #6 all-time after really 13 years of work is pretty damn impressive (even if your dumbass won't admit it).

Timmy Tongue Ring Duncan is #21 in total rebounds. :lol

Hey, dumbshit, why do you insist on bringing up people who are not perimeter players in this thread? Did your ADD meds wear off tonight already? This thread is about legendary PERIMETER players, but it seems you can't get that through your thick head. So take Kobe's cock out of your mouth so you can hear over the slobbering sound you're making....

And quit moving the goal posts. Kobe didn't play a single game (pre-season or regular season at age 17. He was 18 when the season started, and 18 when training camp started. Nice try... He still had a HUGE lead on the other guys in the Top 25 (except for Moses) who spent time in college.

Compare the number of games he's played to get his spot compared to the others in the Top 10. If Kobe plays just 3 more seasons (18 seasons total) and retires at age 35, he'll have played more games than everyone in the Top 10 except for Karl Malone and Jabbar who played until they were at or near 40 (19-20 seasons).

The difference? Jabbar and the Mailman were getting it done at age 39 and 40 playing a position that is tougher on the body (in a much more physical era), while Kobe is finishing his work at 35, while being protected by the guard friendly rule changes that make him untouchable for defenders.

What Jabbar and Malone accomplished is more impressive than anything Kobe could do.

You may continue slobbin' Kobe's knob now... just don't let him cum on your face, cuz that's his thing, according to the Colorado police.

[LkrFan]

Hey, dumbshit, why do you insist on bringing up people who are not perimeter players in this thread? Did your ADD meds wear off tonight already? This thread is about legendary PERIMETER players, but it seems you can't get that through your thick head. So take Kobe's cock out of your mouth so you can hear over the slobbering sound you're making....
I'm a man that don't don't own a tongue ring. Sorry.


And quit moving the goal posts. Kobe didn't play a single game (pre-season or regular season at age 17. He was 18 when the season started, and 18 when training camp started. Nice try... He still had a HUGE lead on the other guys in the Top 25 (except for Moses) who spent time in college.
You mad bruh? Fine, Kobe didn't play until he was 18. I said he was drafted at age 17 which is true. Now you moving goal posts. Is it Kobe's fault he was the only guard in NBA history good enough to be drafted straight out of high school? How about practicing with the 76ers at age 16? :lol


Compare the number of games he's played to get his spot compared to the others in the Top 10. If Kobe plays just 3 more seasons (18 seasons total) and retires at age 35, he'll have played more games than everyone in the Top 10 except for Karl Malone and Jabbar who played until they were at or near 40 (19-20 seasons) Kobe's not a TOSB so he will play well beyond 35. No need to worry. And despite the fact that every year (other than the tanking to draft Bynum) he's been in the playoffs. This part of your post is irrelevant.


The difference? Jabbar and the Mailman were getting it done at age 39 and 40 playing a position that is tougher on the body (in a much more physical era), while Kobe is finishing his work at 35, while being protected by the guard friendly rule changes that make him untouchable for defenders. Don't give me any of that BS. Kobe can play in any era and dominate. You right, that era was physical and I stick by my guns when I say Tongue Ring wouldn't be no better than Daughterty was. You need evidence? He's too slow for most PFs like Stoudamire, Gasol, KG, etc. so now that you guys play him at center (his college position) he is reduced to 13/8. That's Chris Mihmesque if you ask me. :lol


What Jabbar and Malone accomplished is more impressive than anything Tongue Ring could do.Especially at age 35 ;)


You may continue slobbin' Kobe's knob now... just don't let him cum on your face, cuz that's his thing, according to the Colorado police.
Do you want to know what Chris Rock thinks about people that wear tongue rings? :lol

Face it dude, the only reason this thread exists is to take the heat off of Tongue Ring. Tongue Ring is celebrated for having a 1,000 straight seasons of 50 or more wins, yet in still it's:

Kobe: 5
TOSB: 4

:downspin:

[Dunc n Dave]

I'm a man that don't don't own a tongue ring. Sorry.


You mad bruh? Fine, Kobe didn't play until he was 18. I said he was drafted at age 17 which is true. Now you moving goal posts. Is it Kobe's fault he was the only guard in NBA history good enough to be drafted straight out of high school? How about practicing with the 76ers at age 16? :lol

Kobe's not a TOSB so he will play well beyond 35. No need to worry. And despite the fact that every year (other than the tanking to draft Bynum) he's been in the playoffs. This part of your post is irrelevant.

Don't give me any of that BS. Kobe can play in any era and dominate. You right, that era was physical and I stick by my guns when I say Tongue Ring wouldn't be no better than Daughterty was. You need evidence? He's too slow for most PFs like Stoudamire, Gasol, KG, etc. so now that you guys play him at center (his college position) he is reduced to 13/8. That's Chris Mihmesque if you ask me. :lol

Especially at age 35 ;)


Do you want to know what Chris Rock thinks about people that wear tongue rings? :lol

Face it dude, the only reason this thread exists is to take the heat off of Tongue Ring. Tongue Ring is celebrated for having a 1,000 straight seasons of 50 or more wins, yet in still it's:

Kobe: 5
TOSB: 4

:downspin:


There you go again with your obsession of all things Spurs. You can't even help yourself in a thread about PERIMETER players. You just gotta pull out the "but, but, but... at least Kobe is better than Duncan" excuses to cover for your sperm donor.

As for the bolded part above, if that's true, it sure hasn't stopped YOU from spinnin in circles trying to defend Kobe at every turn, has it. :toast

Damn, you Kobe lovers are too easy....

"but, but, but... Duncan...."

come on, might as well say it, I know it's right there on the tip of your lips (along with Kobe's spunk, that is)

[Dunc n Dave]

I'm a man that don't don't own a tongue ring. Sorry.


You mad bruh? Fine, Kobe didn't play until he was 18. I said he was drafted at age 17 which is true. Now you moving goal posts. Is it Kobe's fault he was the only guard in NBA history good enough to be drafted straight out of high school? How about practicing with the 76ers at age 16? :lol

Kobe's not a TOSB so he will play well beyond 35. No need to worry. And despite the fact that every year (other than the tanking to draft Bynum) he's been in the playoffs. This part of your post is irrelevant.

Don't give me any of that BS. Kobe can play in any era and dominate. You right, that era was physical and I stick by my guns when I say Tongue Ring wouldn't be no better than Daughterty was. You need evidence? He's too slow for most PFs like Stoudamire, Gasol, KG, etc. so now that you guys play him at center (his college position) he is reduced to 13/8. That's Chris Mihmesque if you ask me. :lol

Especially at age 35 ;)


Do you want to know what Chris Rock thinks about people that wear tongue rings? :lol

Face it dude, the only reason this thread exists is to take the heat off of Tongue Ring. Tongue Ring is celebrated for having a 1,000 straight seasons of 50 or more wins, yet in still it's:

Kobe: 5
TOSB: 4

:downspin:

By the way, nice double negative up there. I guess you subconsciously just admitted you DO own a tongue ring. Explains why you're suckin Kobe off all the time.

(oops, better edit that QUICK, then deny it, or say I was "editing your quotes" like you like to do)

Here it comes....
You: "But, But, Duncan...."

[LkrFan]

By the way, nice double negative up there. I guess you subconsciously just admitted you DO own a tongue ring. Explains why you're suckin Kobe off all the time.

(oops, better edit that QUICK, then deny it, or say I was "editing your quotes" like you like to do)

Here it comes....
You: "But, But, Duncan...."

Dumber than Daisy - I'm secure in my manhood - I won't be editing shit. Now go to sleep now - I know you have school in the morning. :lol

[Spur_Fanatic]

So, what happened the last time Kobe tried, truly tried, to be a 1-man show?

[LkrFan]

So, what happened the last time Kobe tried, truly tried, to be a 1-man show?

He ended up with :lobt::lobt::lobt::lobt2::lobt2:

:downspin:

[Giuseppe]

There's the Cubby I know and love. I've missed the REAL you... You know, the one that refuses to have a REAL bball discussion, because he's too busy trollin'

Come ta pappy!

lmcontrollinao!

lm(about to be)emulatedao!

You should go back and molest your own kids, daddy.

[joshdaboss]

lol @ even comparing Kobe to a true champion like Duncan

[Giuseppe]

lol @ even comparing Kobe to a true champion like Duncan

It was difficult, but, at:::

Kobe: 5

tired old shit bag Duncan: 4

I had a firm foot hold. & I ain't giving it up for money, marbles, nor chalk.

[MR.SILVER&BLack]

He ended up with :lobt::lobt::lobt::lobt2::lobt2:

:downspin:
all i remeber was kobes one man show getting bukkaked by nash & the Suns "Amazing" defense.

[MR.SILVER&BLack]

It was difficult, but, at:::

tired old shit bag rapist kobe: 1st round exits

Shaq & Gasol: 5

tired old shit bag Duncan: 4

I had a firm foot hold. & I ain't giving it up for money, marbles, nor chalk.
fixed it for you :toast

mine as well post your response

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[Giuseppe]

lmcontrollinao!!!

[Dunc n Dave]

You should go back and molest your own kids, daddy.

There he is! Unleash the inner beast, Cubby! I know you've been dyin' to let it out since Barea sent King Jackson off into the early sunset.. tail tucked between legs and all...

[Dunc n Dave]

Dumber than Daisy - I'm secure in my manhood - I won't be editing shit. Now go to sleep now - I know you have school in the morning. :lol

Good to know you're secure about something, since you're obviously insecure about Kobe's place on the list of all time perimeter players, as evidenced by you constantly posting in a thread designed to troll weak minded Laker fans like you. It's OK, the mileage has gotten to him, that's all.

"but, but.. Duncan..." :lol

[SPURSCHAMP]

FYI for Dumb n Dave:

Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/a/abdulka01.html) *383872.
Karl Malone (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/m/malonka01.html) *369283
Michael Jordan (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01.html) *322924
Wilt Chamberlain (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/c/chambwi01.html) *314195
Shaquille O'Neal (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/o/onealsh01.html) 285966
Kobe Bryant (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/bryanko01.html) 27868

By end of next season, he will be #5 all-time. Where is TOSB on this list? ;)
good job with 1st grade math buddy. im pretty sure malone didn't score 369,283 points

[LkrFan]

good job with 1st grade math buddy. im pretty sure malone didn't score 369,283 points

:lol

[Sportstudi]

Second, he was in a seat belt until Eddie Jones had an injury when he was 19. So for him to be #6 all-time after really 13 years of work is pretty damn impressive


In the beginning, let me say that I have no intention to troll as I'm not interested to join this fight between some Laker and Spurs fans, but pls LkrFan explain me two things:

Firstly, if you don't count Kobe's first two years due to the reasons mentioned above, why do you count the points he scored within these years?


Second, he was in a seat belt until Eddie Jones had an injury when he was 19. So for him to be #6 all-time after really 13 years of work is pretty damn impressive

It's either or. Either you say he has played 15 years so far and scored 27,868 points or you say 13 years and 26,109 points. You can't mix it. In case you take the latter of these two options, he's #13 in points scored right now.

Secondly, I recall that many Laker fans here claimed various times that Kobe's numbers during the tree-peat were that good that he wasn't a 2nd option at all. Now you wrote:

Active scorers:

1. Shaquille O'Neal 28,596 (+692)
2. Kobe Bryant 27,904
3. Kevin Garnett 23,323 (-4,581)
4. Dirk Nowitzki 22,792 (-5,112)
5. Ray Allen 22,286 (-5,618)
6. Tim Duncan 21,663 (-6,241)
7. Paul Pierce 21,410 (-6,494)
8. Vince Carter 20,520 (-7,384)
9. Antawn Jamison 18,128 (-9,776)
10. Tracy McGrady 18,108 (-9,796)

Look at Kobe and his peers. He is on Shaq's ass and Shaq's been the man (#1 option) since day one. Kobe didn't become #1 option until 2006 - his 10th year in the league. :downspin:

So, now Kobe wasn't the man despite all those previous claims? Pls explain. Additionally, Shaq left in 2004. Who was then the #1 option between 2004-06?

[Giuseppe]

There he is! Unleash the inner beast, Cubby! I know you've been dyin' to let it out since Barea sent King Jackson off into the early sunset.. tail tucked between legs and all...

Just go back & molest your children, Dunc.

[Dunc n Dave]

Just go back & molest your children, Dunc.

He's gaining steam now...

Go Cubby go!

Get down in the stink!

Crawl m'fer, crawl!

lmcontrollinao!

[Giuseppe]

Just go back & molest your children, Dunc.

[BoricuaCJA]

I wonder when an LA fan is gonna counter sportstudi last post.

[ezau]

Just go back & molest your children, Dunc.

I smell skunk

[Giuseppe]

i smell skunk

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[Dunc n Dave]

Just go back & molest your children, Dunc.

Crawl m'fer, crawl!

[Jodelo]

I wonder when an LA fan is gonna counter sportstudi last post.

Of course not!

[Giuseppe]

Crawl m'fer, crawl!

I'm a trend setter.

I set trends.

[Dunc n Dave]

I'm a trend setter.

I set trends.

lmcontrollinao!

I got Cubby serving as my fart catcher!

[Giuseppe]

lmcontrollinao!

I got Cubby serving as my fart catcher!

I'm a trend setter.

I set trends.

[Sean Cagney]

http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lm3q81U49t1qa6arxo1_250.jpgShaq should be on those first threes as he was the MVP of them..........
Kobe stans love to forget they loved Shaq then and he was their dominant force.

[Dunc n Dave]

I'm a fart catcher.

I catch farts.

fify

[DMC]

I'm a trend setter.

I set trends.
http://img.epinions.com/images/opti/10/99/Fisher_Price_See_n_Say_Farmer_Says_Electronic_Leve r_Toys-resized200.jpg

[Giuseppe]

fify

lmcontrollinao!!!

[Dunc n Dave]

lmcontrollinao!!!

That's it... Crawl m'fer, crawl!

lmvictoriousao!

[Giuseppe]

lmemulatedao!!!

[Koolaid_Man]

In the beginning, let me say that I have no intention to troll as I'm not interested to join this fight between some Laker and Spurs fans, but pls LkrFan explain me two things:

Firstly, if you don't count Kobe's first two years due to the reasons mentioned above, why do you count the points he scored within these years?



It's either or. Either you say he has played 15 years so far and scored 27,868 points or you say 13 years and 26,109 points. You can't mix it. In case you take the latter of these two options, he's #13 in points scored right now.

Secondly, I recall that many Laker fans here claimed various times that Kobe's numbers during the tree-peat were that good that he wasn't a 2nd option at all. Now you wrote:


So, now Kobe wasn't the man despite all those previous claims? Pls explain. Additionally, Shaq left in 2004. Who was then the #1 option between 2004-06?

We count the first few years we're just saying he didn't get much playing time and press...He came off the bench, he was not a starter....He was basically red shirted and still shined...If he put it in the basket then it counts numnuts...:lol no matter how you slice it he's sitting @ #6 all-time and will be # 2 or 3 before he's done.

To your silly ass argument 2nd point...are we talking during the 3-peat or his first 3 seasons...get your logic right so we're on the same page...during the 3 peat I've already addressed this...and I will again...

Each succeeding year Kobe 'the 'side-kick'averaged 21.1 ; 29.4 ; & 26.6 ppg respectively in the playoffs during the play-offs of LA's 3 peat.

While Duncan averaged 23.2, 24.7, & 23.6 ppg respectively during the play-offs for his first 3 titles.

If Kobe was Robin to Shaq's batman act...what does that make Duncan...Wonder Woman? :lol

Kobe averaged 25.4pts, 5.9reb, and 5.13ast for the regular season during LA's 3-peat. Better than 95% of all players for those years.

Overall Kobe averaged 25.7pts, 5.83reb, and 5.09ast for the playoffs during LA's 3-peat


Kobe was a top 2 player in the league even back then. Side-Kicks can't put up those kinds of numbers.

2004 -2006 - Since he was stuck playing with Kwame Brown, Smush Parker, Brian Cook, and Chucky Atkins he went on scoring binges until they put a team around him that could compete...for the record Shaq nor Duncan never played with such inferior talent during these years...:lol

what else you got for King Kool...:lol

[Dunc n Dave]

lmemulatedao!!!

Come ta pappy! DoK has a burger waitin' for ya.

[Giuseppe]

lmcontrollinao!!!