If Noah never built an ark, then how are there still animals?

[Landon Donofag]

Checkmate, Atheists.

[Wild Cobra]

Checkmate, Atheists.
LOL...

They'll just come back and tell you Jesus had a twin brother.

[JayTheClown]

Checkmate, Atheists.

Soccer is for girls and gays

[boutons_deux]

Bible-thumping literalists, what fucktards.

[Halberto]

You know what I hate? Pickles.

[pickle girl]

You know what I hate? Pickles.

:flipoff

[Landon Donofag]

:lmao atheist are stumped :lmao

[Blake]

:lmao atheist are stumped :lmao

there's no evidence of a great flood covering the entire earth.

[DMX7]

Because I created them.

[JayTheClown]

Saint Thomas Aquinas
Look him up

[DMC]

White Cliffs of Dover.... if I must say.

"Many secular geologists claim that these chalk beds speak of an old earth since they believe chalk formed slowly and progressively over millions of years. However, when we interpret the evidence from a biblical perspective, we see that there is an explanation for the formation of these chalk beds that aligns with the biblical timescale of thousands of years. The main cause of these beds is the catastrophic, worldwide Flood."

http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/wog/white-cliffs-dover

:lmao

[Wild Cobra]

there's no evidence of a great flood covering the entire earth.
Agreed, but the same basic story is told in other cultures with some variations.

I can think of several reasons why the event occurred, but I think the most probably was a massive Coronal Mass Ejection (http://www.windows2universe.org/sun/cmes.html) where the earth traveled through a massive cloud of ejected protons from the sun. In the atmosphere, they combined with oxygen and created water, which would cause a planetary rain for the forty days. As for Noah and his family, they may have lived what is now under water of the Mediterranean. All human life would be near some water source, and all water sources would be flooding. No way to really know, but what is now the Straits of Gibraltar could have once been land all the way across between Spain and Africa. The combined rain and ice melt could have breached this area, forming the Mediterranean. The water rushing in at a controlled rate would continue as momentum kept it flowing above the new sea level height, possibly letting the arc settle on a mountain side.

The flood only had to cover the villages of man, again, all would be near some flowing water which would suddenly flood.

I will bet that the only animals Noah actually bought with him, were those usage in some way, primarily food and clothing. Stories change as people tell them over time. This was prior to the written history, and we really don't know how accurate the Torah is. Some could be fables based on truth.

[Wild Cobra]

I don't like to get anti-religious, but I draw the line at those who think the earth is only a few thousand years old. The Torah makes no such claim, but is a common misconception because the word meaning day also means cycle. It is the revised words starting with the King James Version that create such misconceptions. There are also two words for "Adam." The one meaning "mankind" was used in the creation, but the proper name for the story with Adam, Eve, Cain, and Able was a different word. We have no way of knowing how long Cain was born after mankind was created, or what the population of earth was by this time.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Agreed, but the same basic story is told in other cultures with some variations.

I can think of several reasons why the event occurred, but I think the most probably was a massive Coronal Mass Ejection (http://www.windows2universe.org/sun/cmes.html) where the earth traveled through a massive cloud of ejected protons from the sun. In the atmosphere, they combined with oxygen and created water, which would cause a planetary rain for the forty days. As for Noah and his family, they may have lived what is now under water of the Mediterranean. All human life would be near some water source, and all water sources would be flooding. No way to really know, but what is now the Straits of Gibraltar could have once been land all the way across between Spain and Africa. The combined rain and ice melt could have breached this area, forming the Mediterranean. The water rushing in at a controlled rate would continue as momentum kept it flowing above the new sea level height, possibly letting the arc settle on a mountain side.

The flood only had to cover the villages of man, again, all would be near some flowing water which would suddenly flood.

I will bet that the only animals Noah actually bought with him, were those usage in some way, primarily food and clothing. Stories change as people tell them over time. This was prior to the written history, and we really don't know how accurate the Torah is. Some could be fables based on truth.

Now tell us about satellites looking into the troposhpere. What a crock of shit.

[Halberto]

How are some of you falling for this troll?

[Drachen]

How are some of you falling for this troll?

Just what I was going to post. I think its hilarious that anyone used that OP to get into a serious discussion about religion.

[Drachen]

Here let me help y'all out with another example.


Jim J

If God isn't real, how did he create man in his own image?

Checkmate, atheists!
October 28, 2011 at 3:23 pm | Report abuse | Reply


nwi

god must be either one messed up dude, hilarious, or both.
October 28, 2011 at 3:24 pm | Report abuse |

Prince Hall F&AM

that's not a 'checkmate'. All you did was ask a question. -__-
October 28, 2011 at 3:24 pm | Report abuse |

Darth Cheney

He didn't.
October 28, 2011 at 3:27 pm | Report abuse |

[email protected]

Repeating something that your silly religion has repeated for over thousands of years, does not make it fact. In fact repeating that quote in this context just shows how simple you really are.

Of course you believe in Magic Santa Claus, now go sit back down.
October 28, 2011 at 3:27 pm | Report abuse |

jim

Are you really stupid enough to think that is a rational argument? The answer is simple, god didn't create man because no god exists. No wonder there are so many christian garbage collectors.
October 28, 2011 at 3:27 pm | Report abuse |

HaelieL

Man created God in his image...
October 28, 2011 at 3:28 pm | Report abuse |

bp

Because Man created god in his image
October 28, 2011 at 3:28 pm | Report abuse |

Bobo on the Corner

haha!
what?
October 28, 2011 at 3:28 pm | Report abuse |

ChicagoRob

actually if anything man created God in his image.....do you really think God is some giant White republican texan hanging out in the clouds? And heck if Jesus walked the earth most Americans would mistake him as a muslim
October 28, 2011 at 3:28 pm | Report abuse |

ORLY?

"Jim J
If God isn't real, how did He create man in His own image?
Checkmate, atheists!"

There. Fixed that for ya.

Your argument is redundantly recursive.
October 28, 2011 at 3:28 pm | Report abuse |

RandomOne

Um, I thought god was a being and not a human? Plus, telling an atheist that man was made in god's image doesn't prove anything unless you can show a picture of god. Checkmate your stupidity.
October 28, 2011 at 3:28 pm | Report abuse |

nonpartyjay

You're joking right? Man created God in his image.
October 28, 2011 at 3:29 pm | Report abuse |

Cedar Rapids

I think it was sarcasm folks, wasnt meant to be a real attempt at an argument.
October 28, 2011 at 3:29 pm | Report abuse |

William Demuth

Sherlock

We created him in OUR image! Self evident proof of how full of s#@t the whole thing is.

A blonde haired blue eyed man and a virgin girl from Palestine?

So pathetic it is absurd
October 28, 2011 at 3:29 pm | Report abuse |

CFG

I award you zero points, and may god have mercy on your soul.
October 28, 2011 at 3:30 pm | Report abuse |

What?

God is awesome and I love Him:):) Go team Jesus we love You Lord!
October 28, 2011 at 3:30 pm | Report abuse |

fafuga

Excellent logic. If Dr. Suess didn't exist, how did the Grinch steal Christmas?

Yahtzee!
October 28, 2011 at 3:30 pm | Report abuse |

r

how do you know i didn't create man in my image? Or in someone else's image?
October 28, 2011 at 3:30 pm | Report abuse |

ihtfpaeoh

Uh, seriously??????
October 28, 2011 at 3:31 pm | Report abuse |

Chase

You must be one of those Westboro idiots
October 28, 2011 at 3:31 pm | Report abuse |

[email protected]

You have to be really stupid to have typed up this post and not realized it made no logical sense. How do we know man was made in God's image. Because you and your cult followers say so? How stupid is this point? You made a point by making a claim that is not verifiable and then stating it is fact, even though we all know it is a silly idea.

Ha Ha Ha
These people are so cute, too funny.
October 28, 2011 at 3:32 pm | Report abuse |

Uncouth Swain

"A blonde haired blue eyed man and a virgin girl from Palestine?"

I think you will have a hard time proving that. He rarely was ever shown with blonde hair and there was no "Palestine" in his lifetime.
October 28, 2011 at 3:33 pm | Report abuse |

Daryn

Jim, you used absolutely no reasoning or logic in your argument. What you said would be like me saying, "If Santa Clause isn't real, how come people get presents every Christmas." My argument assumes only Santa delivers presents. Your argument assumes that first, their is a God; second, he/she/it has an image; thirdly, that we were created by that "god" if it does actually exist.
When you use assumptions to argue a point, it is called an opinion, not truth or fact. I assume you have a brain, I request that you start using it. That, however, is just my opinion.
Also as many people have already stated. You may want to look into the roots of Easter and Christmas too, both originally pagan holidays. Just a few of the things i learned when i actually took the time to study the Bible and Christian history. If your going to base your life on a tradition/religious belief(s), I suggest you do the same thing.
October 28, 2011 at 3:38 pm | Report abuse |

Cason

You people embarrass me for being an atheist...
October 28, 2011 at 3:40 pm | Report abuse |

Jessaca

So God started out as a monkey too?
October 28, 2011 at 3:43 pm | Report abuse |

Hasa Diga Eebowai

And why does god look like he evolved from a chimp... hahaha
October 28, 2011 at 3:44 pm | Report abuse |

Todd Packer

Amen brother!
October 28, 2011 at 3:47 pm | Report abuse |

J

Guys, just Youtube "checkmate atheists". Obviously trolling sarcasm...
October 28, 2011 at 3:48 pm | Report abuse |

TJ

A comment like that only shows the stupidity of the followers.
October 28, 2011 at 3:51 pm | Report abuse |

asdf

wow, amazing out of all of the responses to this comment, i think only 2 people got it. Why is everyone so quick to jump into an argument? It's clearly a sarcastic remark. William Demuth gets -100 for calling someone 'Sherlock'. What decade are you living in? Was that ever cool?
October 28, 2011 at 6:50 pm | Report abuse |

[DMC]

How are some of you falling for this troll?
Someone responds to the troll and everyone else responds to that poster. That's how it works.

If it doesn't how did this thread get started?

[cantthinkofanything]

Bend over. I'll show ya a coronal mass ejection.

[baseline bum]

I figure this is a good place for some Penn & Teller

cq0dBFqJZc0

[Landon Donofag]

http://i.imgur.com/GCKlq.jpg

[mouse]

Someone responds to the troll and everyone else responds to that poster. That's how it works.

If it doesn't how did this thread get started?

And by me quoting a great post.

and wah-la

you have page two...............and the madness continues.....


http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p55/RackTheMouse/222-4.jpg

[Fpoonsie]

And by me quoting a great post.

and wah-la

you have page two...............and the madness continues.....


You're as bad at counting as you are at joke-telling.

[DMC]

You're as bad at counting as you are at joke-telling.

And spelling. Wah-la?

[mouse]

You're as bad at counting as you are at joke-telling.

I was going to edit and add the link to page two as back up. .

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p55/RackTheMouse/RTM-322/animated_cat.gif

[redzero]

Agreed, but the same basic story is told in other cultures with some variations.

I can think of several reasons why the event occurred, but I think the most probably was a massive Coronal Mass Ejection (http://www.windows2universe.org/sun/cmes.html) where the earth traveled through a massive cloud of ejected protons from the sun. In the atmosphere, they combined with oxygen and created water, which would cause a planetary rain for the forty days. As for Noah and his family, they may have lived what is now under water of the Mediterranean. All human life would be near some water source, and all water sources would be flooding. No way to really know, but what is now the Straits of Gibraltar could have once been land all the way across between Spain and Africa. The combined rain and ice melt could have breached this area, forming the Mediterranean. The water rushing in at a controlled rate would continue as momentum kept it flowing above the new sea level height, possibly letting the arc settle on a mountain side.

The flood only had to cover the villages of man, again, all would be near some flowing water which would suddenly flood.

I will bet that the only animals Noah actually bought with him, were those usage in some way, primarily food and clothing. Stories change as people tell them over time. This was prior to the written history, and we really don't know how accurate the Torah is. Some could be fables based on truth.

Why do you entertain the idea of Noah existing in the first place?

[koriwhat]

666! Fuck yeah!

[Wild Cobra]

Why do you entertain the idea of Noah existing in the first place?
Why don't you, when his name appears in at least 3 cultures history?

[redzero]

Are you talking about Jews, Christians and Muslims? That doesn't really count, since they all use the same source material.

You have one dubious source from thousands of years ago and zero evidence.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Why don't you, when his name appears in at least 3 cultures history?

You mean the story of the flood was actually Mesopotamian or Zorastrian in origin unlike the crock of shit you are feeding us.

As for your coronal eruption theory, your combination of H ions and oxygen is called combustion, dimwit. I know youre not an expert on heat exchange but that was extra special dumb.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

The story of the flood comes from the lands of marduk first before the Jewish faith coopted it. Most likely it was a local event such as http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Sea_deluge_theory that was blown out of proportion and made into something done by the gods because people did that with what they could not explain. Just like the sun, love, thunder, fertility, death etc gods of old.

[DMC]

Did God ever pay any child support on Jesus?

[DMC]

There's no reason to believe the 40 days/nights tale. Rain for a long fucking time, sure, but numbers from hand-me down stories are rarely accurate.

The fact that the story included into the history of life as we know it, according to Christians, is really a debilitating aspect of the Bible.

The concept that only one person/family on Earth believed in God enough to give a shit says a lot about the concept of God. There were no scientific methods back then, most people weren't rational thinkers. Most believed what they saw, heard or felt. Some believed stories of gods.

Why did God allow the Earth to get to the point where he was ready to start over? Imagine doing that with a huge project at your job. "I know we've spent years on this, but I don't like it. Fuck it, kill it and we can start over... but save James Noah, he's not responsible for fucking it up... how do we save him when we are demolishing the entire compound? Oh, give him a heads up and have him build a boat... yeah I know we could just ferry him out with a copter or something, but if he doesn't want to do that work, he needs to go as well, plus it will be fun watching that fucker grab two of every office supply".

[silverblk mystix]

The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...


yup....makes sense to billions of people....proving that we live in an insane asylum....

[mouse]

Funny how some people are so gullible to quote a science book written in the 60s and yet dismiss something written in many books 1000s of years ago by more than one nation of people.

Anyone who doesn't think the world was flooded at one time is either blind , or the most ignorant person on earth.



http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_ZqmBmco-uQE/TRSqe4ZECWI/AAAAAAAAAao/V2r41tuHeQ4/s1600/grand-candwon.jpg

"Bones of Whale have been found 440 feet above sea level, north of Lake Ontario; a skeleton of another whale was discovered in Vermont, more than 500 feet above sea level; and still another in the Montreal-Quebec area, about 600 feet above sea level..."

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p55/RackTheMouse/whaleinmich.jpg

Just because you believe the earth was flooded at one time doesn't mean you support the Bible or support Noah but people with small minds can't seem to be able to grasp that.

I have little patients with such people.

[Drachen]

You realize that San Antonio, the one that is 660 ft above sea level, used to be underwater right?

.Plate Tectonics.

[Hooks]

I225Vcs3X0g

[mojorizen7]

MeSSwKffj9o

[RandomGuy]

I225Vcs3X0g

Thanks. That was comedy gold.

[Landon Donofag]

Typical atheist response. No answers so they have to resort to posting youtube videos of comics bashing religion. :lmao

Check fucking mate.

:)

[mouse]

I don't support the Bible or claim to be a creationist so you guys are up shit creek if you think a few Youtube videos can bail you out of a debate with me.

As for the pictures I needed since when because a person used a picture of certain site they support that site? If that's the case i may suggest you think twice before you post another Gay picture to insult someone.

Still no one here can prove a world wide flood never happened.


Evolutionists use, primarily, what they call the "Geologic Column" to date the earth uses eras (Jurassic, Mesozoic, etc.). The issue with this imaginary column is that often times these strata layers are connected by a upright tree that was fossilized through them. proof for flood not too long ago

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p55/RackTheMouse/petrified_tree_thru_rock_strata2.jpg

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

there's no evidence of a great flood covering the entire earth.

[RandomGuy]

Still no one here can prove a world wide flood never happened.



1) Even if you melted all the glacial ice on the planet today, there still would not be enough water to cover every single landmass. You might be able to bring sea levels to the point where you might get the first few miles of coastland, flooding some flat, low-lying areas, but that is not quite the "world-wide flood" you seem to be aiming at.

2) Assuming you magic up enough water to do so, you would kill off every single freshwater fish species in existance, as the salinity of the oceans would mix with and overwhelm the freshwater. The very existence of modern freshwater fish species is proof enough that no global flood has occured.

3) Assuming you magic up enough water, and then magic up some way NOT to kill off every single fresh water species, the immobile species that live in coastal areas, like clams, mussels, and other coastal shelf dwellers that live in very specific conditions would also be similary killed off, as the increased depth suddenly made their environs too dark and cold to support them.

4) Assuming you magic up enough water, magic up some way not to kill off every single fresh water species, magic up some way not to kill off coastal ecosystems, you then have to deal with the fact that such a flood would kill off everysingle land-bound plant species. Salt water is not kind to such plants, nor is it kind to their seeds. Total immersion, even in fresh water would kill off even the heartiest of trees.

5) Assuming you magic up enough water, magic up some way not to kill off every single fresh water species, magic up some way not to kill off coastal ecosystems, and magic up a way not to kill off every single land-bound plant species, you then have to deal with the total absence of evidence of water action in areas like the Sahara desert, where receding water of that magnitude would carry off sand to the bedrock, or simply finding carcasses of killed fish/trees etc in a very distinct, recent layer of geography, or frozen on say, moutaintops.

I guess if you want to assume a whole lot of magic, including the magical erasement of all the physical traces that would be left over by such an event, then you could say no one has proved it has never happened.

Is that what you are trying to say? We have no evidence of magic on a global scale?

Where is the evidence of the magic that replaced all the species that would have been killed off?

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Still no one here can prove a world wide flood never happened.
When it comes to freak occurrences like a global flood, the burden of proof rests on the ones claiming it happened.

No one can prove that the world wasn't ruled by a flying spaghetti monster 5,000 years ago.

[RandomGuy]

"Bones of Whale have been found 440 feet above sea level, north of Lake Ontario; a skeleton of another whale was discovered in Vermont, more than 500 feet above sea level; and still another in the Montreal-Quebec area, about 600 feet above sea level..."

Just because you believe the earth was flooded at one time doesn't mean you support the Bible or support Noah but people with small minds can't seem to be able to grasp that.

I have little patients with such people.

The kind of event you are talking about would not leave bones buried at a few hundred feet above sea level.

It would leave bones in moutain valleys, and not buried, as snow would cover them almost immediately.

Do you have proof of this?

The ancient peoples with stories about flooding had no global maps, or instant communication with people more than a mile or two away. Most didn't move from the place they were born.

A large regional flood event to them would be their entire world, even if 50 miles away it was perfectly dry.

Do you have evidence that these people could travel that quickly or knew what was going on 100 miles away? 1000? 10000?

[RandomGuy]

http://www.age-of-the-sage.org/archaeology/otzi_the_iceman_images.jpg

This poor stone age fellow was revealed when a snow melt uncovered him partially.

One would assume whales, or other large sea creatures would be similarly found.

Do you have any examples of this mouse?

[DarkReign]

Still no one here can prove a world wide flood never happened.

You have no idea how specious that argument is, do you?

[baseline bum]

http://www.age-of-the-sage.org/archaeology/otzi_the_iceman_images.jpg

This poor stone age fellow was revealed when a snow melt uncovered him partially.

One would assume whales, or other large sea creatures would be similarly found.

Do you have any examples of this mouse?

Is that the guy they found in the Alps? Did you see last week's episode of Nova about it? Really cool stuff how they piece together the story of him being murdered. Blew my mind that they found him with a copper axe.

[redzero]

Some good points are brought up in this video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I225Vcs3X0g

Here's something else that's interesting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UhPMzsrZbw

I'm not taking any stand on this just yet but I doubt there was ever a great flood that covered the whole earth.

I like this guy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nIRJVmZ4K8

He doesn't necessarily debunk God but he does a good analysis of Christianity.

Do you ever actually give your own opinions about anything, or do you just spam links?

[RandomGuy]

Is that the guy they found in the Alps? Did you see last week's episode of Nova about it? Really cool stuff how they piece together the story of him being murdered. Blew my mind that they found him with a copper axe.

It is indeed a picture of the iceman in the special. That is how I knew about it. What a way to get murdered, ouch.

[RandomGuy]

Some good points are brought up in this video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I225Vcs3X0g

Here's something else that's interesting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UhPMzsrZbw

I'm not taking any stand on this just yet but I doubt there was ever a great flood that covered the whole earth.

I like this guy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nIRJVmZ4K8

He doesn't necessarily debunk God but he does a good analysis of Christianity.

You will take whatever stand the most fevered paranoid brain can vomit forth upon the internet makes. You will then go forth and post and re-post the fevered imaginings of this defective mind to subject as many people as possible to your newest bukkake of stupid.

Let me know when that someone else does your thinking for you.

[DMC]

Just Have Faith. I'd rather fool myself about going to Heaven than know I'm just worm dirt.
So fool yourself about sending me 10,000 dollars. Pretend it's your ticket to Heaven. You won't know, right?

[DMC]

I have little patients with such people.

So you are a pediatrician?

[baseline bum]

I225Vcs3X0g

Haha, that whole channel is classic. DarkMatter's best video is the Family Values one. :rollin

PP0bLdOplyk

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

That^ woulda been better if he didn't have to add the retarded qualifier about how he's not trying to :crydisrespect the troops:cry

I used to hate Soulja Boy but since he came out with his "fuck the army troops" song I respect him a lot more

[mouse]

So you are a pediatrician?

More of a proctologist after giving the Darwin lovers in this topic a full rectal exam.

[Landon Donofag]

http://i.imgur.com/cRnKtGH.jpg

Checkmate, atheist. vol. 2.

[baseline bum]

^ Rayleigh scattering tbh

[baseline bum]

If Noah never built an ark, then how come their are oceans?

[xmas1997]

I thought they found the petrified remains of the ark on top of Mt. Ararat in Turkey.

[Sybok]

I thought they found the petrified remains of the ark on top of Mt. Ararat in Turkey.

You mean when they went on a confirmation bias "discovery" trip and found boards? Yeah, that was "the ark" just as much as that orange buoy they found in the ocean was "the airliner" but at least we suspect there was an airliner.

[spurraider21]

:cry ararat is historic armenia

[Blake]

I thought they found the petrified remains of the ark on top of Mt. Ararat in Turkey.

So you do believe in the flood.

Lol

[spurraider21]

So you do believe in the flood.

Lol
no no. just "intelligent design"... with an ark

[xmas1997]

So you do believe in the flood.

Lol

And you disbelieve scientific evidence?
Not surprising for someone who continually "quotes" the bible all the while porfessing disbelief in it.
:lol
At least I have the good sense not to quote something that I never take "literally".

[spurraider21]

And you disbelieve scientific evidence?
Not surprising for someone who continually "quotes" the bible all the while porfessing disbelief in it.
:lol
At least I have the good sense not to quote something that I never take "literally".
If you don't take it literally, then it defeats the purpose. The only reason to buy into all of it is if the book is actually the word of god, in which case you'd be a fool to believe the word of god isn't literal, or to only choose certain parts to take literally or not. Otherwise, it's just a man written book with no weight or reason to believe at any level besides moral purposes like selling your daughter into slavery

[xmas1997]

Where is it a "fact" that it is the "word of God"?
Seems to be an opinion to me.
How on earth does it defeat the purpose?

[spurraider21]

It absolutely defeats the purpose of being a Christian if you don't take the bible literally. Either it's the word of god (in which case you better take it literally) or it's the word of man in which case there is zero reason to live your life and base your beliefs on the book. It's not a peer reviewed or scientific book, you have no more reason to believe it than any other fairy take if you do believe it is the word of man

[Blake]

And you disbelieve scientific evidence?

There's no scientific evidence for an ark or a global flood.

You're an idiot.



Not surprising for someone who continually "quotes" the bible all the while porfessing disbelief in it.
:lol
At least I have the good sense not to quote something that I never take "literally".

This makes no sense at all.

Damn you're really an idiot.

[angrydude]

It absolutely defeats the purpose of being a Christian if you don't take the bible literally. Either it's the word of god (in which case you better take it literally) or it's the word of man in which case there is zero reason to live your life and base your beliefs on the book. It's not a peer reviewed or scientific book, you have no more reason to believe it than any other fairy take if you do believe it is the word of man

Yea, but first you have to figure out what God is actually saying in the book......and what he isn't.

Jesus spoke in parables brah. They weren't meant to be taken literally. By the Bible's own admission "he who hath ears will hear." People trying to take the parables literally is what made them not understand them. If Jesus is the same God as the God in the old testament, then taking a simplistic view of what he's saying is going to lead to misunderstanding.

[spurraider21]

Yea, but first you have to figure out what God is actually saying in the book......and what he isn't.
lol

[Blake]

if Jesus is the same God as the God in the old testament, then taking a simplistic view of what he's saying is going to lead to misunderstanding.

Why did old testament Jesus kill young kids with a bear?

[spurraider21]

Picking and choosing which parts you want to believe is horseshit and nothing but a cop out. Did you even consider the entire book is a parable?

[angrydude]

Why did old testament Jesus kill young kids with a bear?

Because they called someone baldy?

You could spin it that they were disrespecting a prophet.

This is also the culture that killed someone for picking up sticks on the Sabbath.

God also liked genocide back then too.

Different strokes for different folks I guess.

[angrydude]

Picking and choosing which parts you want to believe is horseshit and nothing but a cop out. Did you even consider the entire book is a parable?

You don't pick and choose what to believe. You just use the brain god gave you to reason that when Jesus said "he who hath ears let him ears" he did not literally mean to point out that people with eardrums in their heads were capable of understanding sound waves.

[angrydude]

Especially since the old testament is full of references and literary devices which were commonly understood by people living more than 2000 years ago but which are not understood today.

[spurraider21]

An expression or phrase is different than the story of the creation of earth and mankind

[angrydude]

Example: large numbers were not meant to be taken literally in the old testament. Large numbers were used to signify "big".

Taking that knowledge, one has to wonder what the God meant when he said "day" before the earth even existed.

A single revolution around the sun as measured on earth which didn't exist yet?
A general phrase for a period of time?
A day as signified by some other measuring reference?

Nobody can say for sure. Ambiguity exists. That's ok. that's the point. That's why faith is needed.

[spurraider21]

Example: large numbers were not meant to be taken literally in the old testament. Large numbers were used to signify "big".

Taking that knowledge, one has to wonder what the God meant when he said "day" before the earth even existed.

A single revolution around the sun as measured on earth which didn't exist yet?
A general phrase for a period of time?
A day as signified by some other measuring reference?
Yes by "day" he meant 4 billion years lol. Don't give me that inherit the wind bullshit.

[Blake]

Because they called someone baldy?

You could spin it that they were disrespecting a prophet.

This is also the culture that killed someone for picking up sticks on the Sabbath.

God also liked genocide back then too.

Different strokes for different folks I guess

Yeah, God/Jesus is a pretty sick bastard.

not sure why you would listen to him at all

[Blake]

Example: large numbers were not meant to be taken literally in the old testament. Large numbers were used to signify "big".

Taking that knowledge, one has to wonder what the God meant when he said "day" before the earth even existed.

A single revolution around the sun as measured on earth which didn't exist yet?
A general phrase for a period of time?
A day as signified by some other measuring reference?

Nobody can say for sure. Ambiguity exists. That's ok. that's the point. That's why faith is needed.

Are we also not to take literally the fact that God allowed for slavery and called for the death penalty for homosexuals?

[spurraider21]

Are we also not to take literally the fact that God allowed for slavery and called for the death penalty for homosexuals?
You aren't supposed to take literally anything that hurts a bible thumpers argument

[angrydude]

Yes by "day" he meant 4 billion years lol. Don't give me that inherit the wind bullshit.

The bible is full of inherent contradictions.

The meek don't inherit the earth.
peacemakers aren't blessed. They're killed.
Those who mourn are often never comforted.
the merciful are rarely shown mercy.

If you only use your left brain when interpreting the bible, you're gonna have a bad time.

[angrydude]

Are we also not to take literally the fact that God allowed for slavery and called for the death penalty for homosexuals?

He clearly did. Whether he meant for that to apply to us today is a whole different issue. On that one I'm gonna have to go with no.

[angrydude]

Yeah, God/Jesus is a pretty sick bastard.

not sure why you would listen to him at all

Pretty sure that's what the devil thought too.


lol

[Blake]

Pretty sure that's what the devil thought too.


lol

Based on your posts, God appears to be a moody, violent bitch that changes his mind on a whim.

I'd say it's possible that satan told Jesus his sandals were ugly and that was enough to burn for eternity

[angrydude]

Based on your posts, God appears to be a moody, violent bitch that changes his mind on a whim.

I'd say it's possible that satan told Jesus his sandals were ugly and that was enough to burn for eternity

Glad I could help

[RD2191]

Lol Blake, still blaming God for his wife getting rammed by a bull.:lol

[Blake]

Lol Blake, still blaming God for his wife getting rammed by a bull.:lol

No, never blamed a magic man. Only blamed her.

your God doesn't approve of lying about others, tbh, yet you continue. Why?

[Blake]

Glad I could help

I already had plenty of evidence the Bible was bull shit, but thanks any way.

[RD2191]

Lol evidence

[spurraider21]

Lol thinks chihuahua is the same species as grey wolf

[Blake]

Lol evidence

Yes you're unintelligent.

[rogues]

:lol this schtick jacker is such a faggot, tbh..

[RD2191]

Rofl rogue full meltdown

[rogues]

:lol more schtick jacking, tbh..son, a poster with the credentials or lack thereof such as yourself has no room to be claiming meltdown..you don't even know what a meltdown is you dumbass faggot:lol..

[RD2191]

Rofl. Meltdown. Troll account.

[rogues]

:lmao fat Hispanic jeebotard getting his blood pressure high at the sight of the Sgt, tbh..pissing on himself with all that ketone-rich urine found in diabetics..

[RD2191]

Rofl. Meltdown. Troll account.

[rogues]

:lol more schtick jacking, tbh..

[RD2191]

:lol:troll

[rogues]

:lol that's it, tbh?..I gave this fat fuck a chance to come at the Sgt but just like everybody else that's crossed my path, another poster broken down, another day gone, tbh..

[RD2191]

Post your facebook or stfu. Fucking loser talking shit behind an anonymous account. And don't try to spin this shit, put up or shut up.

[rogues]

:lol robdiaz melting down, tbh..

I actually gave you the floor and you pussy out..you're not man enough to fuck with a nigga like me, tbh..

[RD2191]

Rofl, bitch nigga. Sit your ass down, fucking clown. You bitch out like every other faggot on here.

[rogues]

:lmao post your shit and I'll post mine, fuckboy..I'll bet any poster here whatever amount they want to wage on this that you won't post your shit..I'll give you to 8 pm tonight..any minute over and you will forever don the trademark of a pussy..

[RD2191]

I' m not the one calling other people fat, pm me your link and and I'll pm you mine. Easy.

[xmas1997]

There's no scientific evidence for an ark or a global flood.

You're an idiot.



This makes no sense at all.

Damn you're really an idiot.

The true meaning of "idiot" is Blake, It says so in "your" bible. And that is being generous of me to say you are an idiot because it gives true idiots a bad name and makes light of them.
:lol
IMHO to take the bible as "literal" fact is the epitome of folly and foolishness.
And, a true Christian is not defined, or identified by, his or her belief in any book, bible or otherwise.
It is their belief in "God", in Christ, no less and no more, IMHO.

[RD2191]

Setting deadlines. :lmao

[rogues]

I called you out first fatboy..8 pm..

[RD2191]

Lol, the faggot leaves so he can claim he didn't see my post.

[rogues]

8 pm..

[RD2191]

Nope, pm me your link and I'll pm you mine, fuckface.

[RD2191]

I'll check my inbox.

[rogues]

8 pm..tick tock, clock is running..

[RD2191]

You really think I'm dumb enough to post my shit first when you're using a troll account. :lol

[RD2191]

Okay, so you bitched out again, nice.

[RD2191]

Post your facebook or stfu. Fucking loser talking shit behind an anonymous account. And don't try to spin this shit, put up or shut up.

Called you out first, tbh.:wakeup

[rogues]

You want to fuck with a nigga like me, post your shit..I call you out, I expect that nigga running his mouth to go through with it when the shit gets real..8 pm..

[rogues]

:lol this schtick jacker is such a faggot, tbh..
Nope, I did..8 pm..

[RD2191]

No you didn't. And you're an idiot, tbh. Acting hard and still acting like a bitch. Better yet just post your name. Or are you too big of a pussy to do that?

[xmas1997]

Yeah, God/Jesus is a pretty sick bastard.

not sure why you would listen to him at all


Are we also not to take literally the fact that God allowed for slavery and called for the death penalty for homosexuals?

Obviously if you believe all that crap, then it is you who takes the bible for fact, not I.
And then you melt down because I and others refuse to take the book in a literal manner?
How ignorant can you truly be? You give new meaning to the word "ignorant".
:lol

And then you and your compadres have the gall to accuse Rob of being fat and otherwise when you've never even see the guy?
More "conditioned ignorance" on display for everyone to laugh at.
:lol

[rogues]

Tick tock..

[RD2191]

Lol, puss won't even post his name. I'll give you til 7 to post your name. Tick tock. Rofl.

[RD2191]

:wakeup

[Blake]

The true meaning of "idiot" is Blake, It says so in "your" bible. And that is being generous of me to say you are an idiot because it gives true idiots a bad name and makes light of them.
:lol

You're an idiot because you make a stupid claim and run with it instead of verifying it.


IMHO to take the bible as "literal" fact is the epitome of folly and foolishness.
And, a true Christian is not defined, or identified by, his or her belief in any book, bible or otherwise.
It is their belief in "God", in Christ, no less and no more, IMHO.

Their belief in Christ comes from literally believing in the Bible.

[Blake]

Obviously if you believe all that crap, then it is you who takes the bible for fact, not I.
And then you melt down because I and others refuse to take the book in a literal manner?
How ignorant can you truly be? You give new meaning to the word "ignorant".
:lol

And then you and your compadres have the gall to accuse Rob of being fat and otherwise when you've never even see the guy?
More "conditioned ignorance" on display for everyone to laugh at.
:lol

Sure.

[RD2191]

I'm 6'1 195, guess that's fat.

[rogues]

Tick tock..

[RD2191]

Lol, puss won't even post his name. I'll give you til 7 to post your name. Tick tock. Rofl.

[rogues]

You don't make false deadlines on top of deadlines made by niggas like me..8 pm..put up or shut up..

[RD2191]

Lol, puss won't even post his name. I'll give you til 7 to post your name. Tick tock. Rofl.
:wakeup

[xmas1997]

Yeah, God/Jesus is a pretty sick bastard.

not sure why you would listen to him at all


Sure.

Wrong.
And, I don't hate you, never did, and never will.
You'll have to come up with something more credible than "hate".
How about, I bash trolls, and even wannabe trolls like you?
It's become a laughing past time for me.

[Kim Jong-il]

http://i.imgur.com/cRnKtGH.jpg

Checkmate, atheist. vol. 2.

raff out roud!

[rogues]

:lol times up here in the 305 ladies and gentleman, I hereby deem that schtick jacking faggot robdiaz2191 (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=42690), The Pussy, tbh..

[RD2191]

:lolno one is buying your lame shit, i called you out first. you won't even post your name. pussy.

[xmas1997]

Blake won't post his name either although we've all seen them countless times written in bathroom stalls.

[RD2191]

Blake won't post his name either although we've all seen them countless times written in bathroom stalls.
:lol

[Blake]

Blake won't post his name either although we've all seen them countless times written in bathroom stalls.

not really, but we've definitely seen my name written countless times in your posts.

[Blake]

:lol

We've seen you laugh countless times at the lamest posts

[Rogue]

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[Two10Whitey]

The Bible :lmao
"post your facebook first!" :lmao

[RD2191]

:lol

[RD2191]

We've seen you laugh countless times at the lamest posts
:lol

[xmas1997]

not really, but we've definitely seen my name written countless times in your posts.

Ok, maybe not the bathroom stalls, but definitely the port-a-pottys at construction sites, and they would know.


We've seen you laugh countless times at the lamest posts

And you forgot to say that you post the lamest posts.

[RD2191]

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:lol

[Blake]

Ok, maybe not the bathroom stalls, but definitely the port-a-pottys at construction sites, and they would know.

how would you know unless you're a construction worker, which you aren't since you referred to them as "they".

You're writing my name on bathroom walls, aren't you.



And you forgot to say that you post the lamest posts.

rob isn't laughing at my posts so you're probably wrong.

[Leetonidas]

:cry hh pls :cry

[Leetonidas]

Blake won't post his name either although we've all seen them countless times written in bathroom stalls.

:lol

That was actually rather humorous. Kudos