Church of Kawhi Leonard

[YGWHI]

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"Kawhi Leonard of the San Antonio Spurs is a true stand up guy. He found out about a need in our community and didn't hesitate to lend a helping hand. Thanks Kawhi for giving back and showing these ball players a little love!"

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Well done, Kawhi. Well done.

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:claw

[testies]

terrible
insists on playing pick n roll, should have sticken to being a 3&D guy

[YGWHI]

terrible
insists on playing pick n roll, should have sticken to being a 3&D guy

:lol Stop trolling.

For the record, Kawhi has been one of the most efficient P&Rs ball-handlers in the league last season.

[ace3g]

Kawhi will be 39-40 years old and still be adding things to his game.

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[PopTheGOAT]

Kawhi will be 39-40 years old and still be adding things to his game.

791693736715522048 Manu called Kawhi's ability to get to the line "Harden-like"...ever seen this one before?
"The Arm Hook"
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[ace3g]

Supreme NBA Ballers


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Kawhi Leonard

San Antonio Spurs | SF

Power: Defender of Earth and the cosmos
Key stat: Back-to-back Defensive Player of the Year awards
Mind-bending moment: Steal on Kevin Durant leading to poster dunk over Russell Westbrook.
While some stars impose their will on the opposition, Kawhi Leonard merely prevents his opponents from imposing theirs. He demonstrates more skills with his hands (1.8 steals, 1.0 blocks per game in 2015-16) than Stephen Strange did as a neurosurgeon, creating a virtual force field around the Spurs' basket. If Doctor Strange is Earth's defender against mystical threats, then Leonard is the defender against basketball threats. Illustration by Jay Anacleto and Chris Sotomayor

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Manu called Kawhi's ability to get to the line "Harden-like"...ever seen this one before?
"The Arm Hook"
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det sig :lol

[hooperflash]

Supreme NBA Ballers
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"What are you gonna be for Halloween ?"

Kawhi Leonard Superhero

[PopTheGOAT]

det sig :lol:lol photoshop does wonders

[ace3g]

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Kawhi Leonard started his 300th game tonight - he now has more wins than any other player in NBA history through 300 starts. 235-65 record.







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Most wins by player in first 300 starts:
1. Kawhi Leonard - 235
2. Byron Scott - 231
3. Danny Ainge - 229 (@EliasSports (https://twitter.com/EliasSports) 1970)

[gambit1990]

after four games: leading the team in assists (4.3) and steals (3.3).

all the people who laughed last year when i said kawhi should be handling the ball :lol

[bic50]

:claw

[tholdren]

Kawhi will be 39-40 years old and still be adding things to his game.

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must have read my playoff rants. Glad to know KL can read. Keep it up KL - the reading and the basketball.

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How does Kawhi Leonard train his brain? It all goes back to a strobe-lights regimen pioneered by Michael Jordan.

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[apalisoc_9]

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Probably why Pop is so adamant on getting rid of the Kawhi Post ups. The 3 post ups is non-existant nowadys and it makes load of sense. If he can continue to improve on his PnR, Aldridge and Gasol will be naturally more involved offensivly when leonard has a scoring possesion. When he would post up, it was a scoring play.

It also allows the spurs to post up Aldirdge and Gasol more...making the spurs a bigger threat with offensive boards when of the bigs is posting up.

[MaNu4Tres]

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Tom Haberstroh is missing the boat here.

Most of PnRs with Kawhi turn into different forms of isolations for Kawhi -- with his back to the basket if he doesn't get off his mid range jumper.

He doesn't create offense for others like the others Tom just compared Kawhi to.

The stat that would carry more weight is PPP in PnR opportunities that create shots FOR OTHERS (PPP in assists/hockey assists for others -- how efficient are the shots he creates for others). That stat would be more telling on how effective he is as a play-maker or creator. That aspect has a bigger impact on the game and the offense because its harder to defend and it creates better opportunities for his teammates and the team in the long run.

At the end of the day, yes Kawhi is leading the league in PPP with HIS shot opportunities out of the PnR, great! But I question how effective his PnRs truly are if he can't create for others well & break down a defense. Especially when it comes to playoff caliber defense on a game to game basis, teams, like the have in the past, will exploit this weakness of his in his PnRs , and they'll bait him into really tough shots since no other options ever materialize out of his PnRs.

[apalisoc_9]

Tom Haberstroh is missing the boat here.

Most of PnRs with Kawhi turn into different forms of isolations for Kawhi -- with his back to the basket if he doesn't get off his mid range jumper.

He doesn't create offense for others like the others Tom just compared Kawhi to.

The stat that would carry more weight is PPP in PnR opportunities that create shots FOR OTHERS (PPP in assists/hockey assists for others -- how efficient are the shots he creates for others). That stat would be more telling on how effective he is as a play-maker or creator. That aspect has a bigger impact on the game and the offense because its harder to defend and it creates better opportunities for his teammates and the team in the long run.

At the end of the day, yes Kawhi is leading the league in PPP with HIS shot opportunities out of the PnR, great! But I question how effective his PnRs truly are if he can't create for others well & break down a defense. Especially when it comes to playoff caliber defense on a game to game basis, teams, like the have in the past, will exploit this weakness of his in his PnRs , and they'll bait him into really tough shots since nothing else is really there as far as options are concerned.

Thats probably the idea though. Its evident Pop is moving away from 3 downs and wants the bigs to handle the post ups because as great as kawhi is on the post, you know its going to most likely be a shot.

If he can continue to score on PnR, the natural progression will be passing and creating opportunities. Right now, he really only has two moves...Either shot and score..and hes elite at doing that or a simple pop pass. That doesnt create much in a way of creation since it eliminates creating with corners threes, longer cross passes, cuts etc. Those are probaly the next progression. Pop believes he can improve on those aspects otherwise he wouldnt have tweeked Leonard's offense.

[MaNu4Tres]

Thats probably the idea though. Its evident Pop is moving away from 3 downs and wants the bigs to handle the post ups because as great as kawhi is on the post, you know its going to most likely be a shot.

If he can continue to score on PnR, the natural progression will be passing and creating opportunities. Right now, he really only has two moves...Either shot and score..and hes elite at doing that or a simple pop pass. That doesnt create much in a way of creation since it eliminates creating with corners threes, longer cross passes, cuts etc. Those are probaly the next progression. Pop believes he can improve on those aspects otherwise he wouldnt have tweeked Leonard's offense.

I really question is ability to get there, because typically players need to have the foot speed, quickness, acceleration or elite level of change of direction to create the needed space to be a good creator from PnRs. Leonard has never had that and still doesn't til this day. Every pick and roll is either a mid range pull up off of separation from the pick (great screens), or its a physical fight with his upper body to get around the screen and into essentially an isolation ( or a complicated way to get into an isolation) -- which is the end result from a lot of PnR sets. Very rarely does Kawhi come clean off the PnR to a wide open lane -- when he does its usually when the defense of the Wizards or Kings makes a mistake because he doesn't have the tools in his legs to create significant separation needed to be a good creator or initiator.

At the end of the day, Spurs need a better play-maker from the perimeter. They won't be a championship contender with Kawhi being the Man in PnRs and having him play elite defense. His PnRs aren't good enough from a shots created perspective, and his defense will suffer because he's human and humans can only conserve so much energy and stamina.

I rather Kawhi be ALL IN on D and the boards and have hints or spots of PnR for him offensively with a usage rate around where it was last year. That, in my opinion, is the way to utilize Kawhi & his skill set optimally.

[apalisoc_9]

I really question that though, because typically players need to have the foot speed, quickness, acceleration or elite level of change of direction to create the needed space to be a good creator from PnRs. Leonard has never had that and still doesn't til this day. Every pick and roll is either a mid range pull up off of separation from the pick (great screens), or its a physical fight with his upper body to get around the screen and into essentially an isolation ( or a complicated way to get into an isolation) -- which is the end result from a lot of PnR sets. Very rarely does Kawhi come clean off the PnR to a wide open lane -- when he does its usually when the defense of the Wizards or Kings makes a mistake because he doesn't have the tools in his legs to create significant separation needed to be a good creator or initiator.

I think the idea is that, you get bigs that can shoot and force bigs to not show, hedge or double. In those conditions, his speed wont be much of a factor since the lane is open forcing reactions from the other big or the guys defending the corner three. It makes sense because older Point Guards/Shooting Guards operate in a similar fashion.

And that's most likely another reason why Pau Gasol and david lee was signed at least for this year. They know Kawhi isnt going to be much of a facilitator this hear as he is a scorer so the idea is that the playmaking will come from the open big..(Pau). This was evident against MIN since he was running his screen game with pau and not Aldridge..Which obviously hurt Aldridge possesion numbers.

Kawhi isnt that good at passing to the rollman either, so his options are very limited right now. The saving grace is that hes a great scorer and hes surrounded by Two great midrange jumpers. So the only other thing he is capable of doing and do it good is force the help from the bigs and a wide open pop.

I suppose the issue is that No team is really that concenred with the bigs taking jumpers so the end result is him just trying to score as evident with his PR scoring numbers.

If he was less deadly as a scorer, most likely teams will prioritize Aldridge and Pau...mot the case.

[apalisoc_9]

So my guess is that even if Leonard doesnt develop the speed, PATFO is going to continue findong him a combination of Bigs thag can super space the floor for him.

Thats probably what PATFO had in mind with Gasol-Bertans etc.

[MaNu4Tres]

I think the idea is that, you get bigs that can shoot and force bigs to not show, hedge or double. In those conditions, his speed wont be much of a factor since the lane is open forcing reactions from the other big or the guys defending the corner three. It makes sense because older Point Guards/Shooting Guards operate in a similar fashion.

And that's most likely another reason why Pau Gasol and david lee was signed at least for this year. They know Kawhi isnt going to be much of a facilitator this hear as he is a scorer so the idea is that the playmaking will come from the open big..(Pau). This was evident against MIN since he was running his screen game with pau and not Aldridge..Which obviously hurt Aldridge possesion numbers.

Kawhi isnt that good at passing to the rollman either, so his options are very limited right now. The saving grace is that hes a great scorer and hes surrounded by Two great midrange jumpers. So the only other thing he is capable of doing and do it good is force the help from the bigs and a wide open pop.

I suppose the issue is that No team is really that concenred with the bigs taking jumpers so the end result is him just trying to score as evident with his PR scoring numbers.

If he was less deadly as a scorer, most likely teams will prioritize Aldridge and Pau...mot the case.

Thats the thing though, the good teams and most teams almost always hedge to a degree and that's Kawhi's problem -- he has problem getting around the corner on hedges and his man recovers in time because Kawhi's lack of acceleration and quickness. Teams would have to be stupid to prioritize defending the Pop from a big and not the drive from Kawhi -- that is why you saw OKC usually double Kawhi off the PnP last year in the playoffs until Roberson fully recovered ( which wasn't hard to do). Then worse case for the opposition, the big in the play would be a little late in contesting a mid range Pop from West or Aldridge ( which is something all smart teams should be willing to live with).

Another thing, one aspect of Kawhi being ALL IN on defense that people don't realize is how it helps the offense. Having him zoned in and allocating most of his energy defensively creates more transition opportunities and easy points. In the long run, especially in the playoffs, optimizing in this aspect is a huge edge to have.

[dabom]

Thinking we are going to go anywhere without Kawhi's scoring in the playoffs is fucking idiotic. It's embarrassing really. And Back then We had Manu and Tony in facilitating roles. Not just one fucking guy. I don't know why manutres keeps blaming Kawhi for lack of facilitator like somehow Kawhi is supposed to facilitate enough for Prime Tony and Manu combined. :lmao

Are you a fucking moron? :lmao

[MaNu4Tres]

Thinking we are going to go anywhere without Kawhi's scoring in the playoffs is fucking idiotic. It's embarrassing really. And Back then We had Manu and Tony in facilitating roles. Not just one fucking guy. I don't know why manutres keeps blaming Kawhi for lack of facilitator like somehow Kawhi is supposed to facilitate enough for Prime Tony and Manu combined. :lmao

Are you a fucking moron? :lmao

Maybe you can't comprehend. Have you ever thought of that? That is embarrassing really.

Heaven forbid anyone critique Kawhi's game and point at his weaknesses. There's some blind homer fans that don't understand the game deep enough.

Kawhi can score just fine without 30+% usage with most being in a PnR. There's other ways to put him in advantageous opportunities than a PnR. At the end of the day, it's about the end result of shots created -- how its manufactured as a label is secondary. In most PnR circumstances, Kawhi is essentially the same as Kawhi in the post. It's not just a coincidence that whenever Kawhi initiates offense in the post or < 12 ft from the basket this year he scores at a 57% clip.

I personally would like to see Gasol feed Kawhi from the strong side perimeter with Kawhi posting up in 3 down and have the two other wings on the weakside with Aldridge in the dunker spot. Instead it's usually Danny or Tony feeding Kawhi and Gasol and Aldridge are on the opposite side of the lane. ( Not great spacing).

[dabom]

Maybe you can't comprehend. Have you ever thought of that? That is embarrassing really.

Kawhi can score just fine without 30+% usage with most being in a PnR. There's other ways to put him in advantageous opportunities than a PnR. In most PnR circumstances, Kawhi in the PnR is essentially the same as Kawhi in the post. It's not just a coincidence that whenever Kawhi initiates offense in the post or < 12 ft from the basket THIS YEAR he scores at a 57% clip.

You've said Kawhi facilitating doesn't work from other years. I'm pointing out that we have just one facilitator and KAwhi is not the problem. This is on ongoing discussion. Not to do with your previous comment. :lmao

[dabom]

Should I bump them? :lmao

[apalisoc_9]

Thats the thing though, the good teams and most teams almost always hedge to a degree and that's Kawhi's problem -- he has problem getting around the corner on hedges and his man recovers in time because Kawhi's lack of acceleration and quickness. Teams would have to be stupid to prioritize defending the Pop from a big and not the drive from Kawhi -- that is why you saw OKC usually double Kawhi off the PnP last year in the playoffs until Roberson fully recovered ( which wasn't hard to do). Then worse case for the opposition, the big in the play would be a little late in contesting a mid range Pop from West or Aldridge ( which is something all smart teams should be willing to live with).

Another thing, one aspect of Kawhi being ALL IN on defense that people don't realize is how it helps the offense. Having him zoned in and allocating most of his energy defensively creates more transition opportunities and easy points. In the long run, especially in the playoffs, optimizing in this aspect is a huge edge to have.

PATFO is banking on his ability to score on those situations. He can either get the big with him or just take a shot. It's also the reason why they had him improve his ability to get fouls because that another way to frustrate wing defendes and bigs.

He's also running alot of PnR because We just dont have alternartives. Numbers suggest he's still more than likely going to get a higher PPP than Parker-Ginobili or Mills even if he's just purely a scorer.

I'm Sure PATFO knows how devastating the offense can be when Kawhi is a moster on Defense and i think its pretty evident with our first quarter starts when Gasol-Parker-Aldridge are usually the ones creating shots while Kawhi gets his out of rotations to save his energy on defense..the only issue is that porker is not good enough to create shots for the bigs. Ask Pau..He was visibly and expressed his frustrations for the lack of Guards that can create in this team.

But outside of X and Os...PATFO obviously values his hardwork that his other teamates show a lack off..(save for Timmy). Mills, Parker, Gasol, Aldridge etc all coming in out of shape, other players not improving when they should be the ones improving more. It leaves a foul mouth to any player when you come in the season significantly improved, the only guy in shape and you happen to also be the best player on the team. Kawhi is human too..Under those conditions ALL players would eventually have a falling out with the organizations.

It also sets a terrible example teamwise. You cant reward out of shape players and diminish hardworking guys with ambition...Aldridge had his chance to keep his 1B satus, he.blew it by coming in out of shape. Now its more like 1, 2A and 2B with Pau eating his possesions.

Kawhi can be a more of a defensive player and get his shots elsewhere once everyone is in good physical condition. He's PATFO lesser worries. They know he does things so they can win. They're not worried about his effort on D even if hes not involved on offense.

[MaNu4Tres]

You've said Kawhi facilitating doesn't work from other years. I'm pointing out that we have just one facilitator and KAwhi is not the problem. This is on ongoing discussion. Not to do with your previous comment. :lmao

I said his weakness is creating offense for others out of the PnR. And that I question how effective his PnRs truly are if the end result is almost always Kawhi with the ball shooting a contested shot or resetting the offense. Hardly ever do the Spurs get out a great shot for anyone else but Kawhi out of a Kawhi led PnR.

Does that mean Kawhi shouldn't score? You're clueless at times.

[dabom]

I said his weakness is creating offense for others out of the PnR. And that I question how effective his PnRs truly are if the end result is almost always Kawhi with the ball shooting a contested shot or resetting the offense. Hardly ever do the Spurs get out a great shot for anyone else but Kawhi out of a Kawhi led PnR.

Does that mean Kawhi shouldn't score? You're clueless at times.

You've actually blamed him for our offensive problems. Are you saying we have zero facilitators? Are you fucking retarded? :lmao

[MaNu4Tres]

You've actually blamed him for our offensive problems. Are you saying we have zero facilitators? Are you fucking retarded? :lmao

You're wrong again. That's called taking things out of context or not being able to comprehend.

I pointed out the reasons why Spurs have a tough time manufacturing good looks this year with the starting unit when he has the ball in PnRs.

Spurs will continue having a tough time getting out of the 2nd round having Kawhi be the man to do everything on both ends. He needs help and that's why I was pointing it out. Unlike you, I look at the big picture. I see through the great regular season records beating up on the 25 teams that are irrelevant. The offense does lack quality looks as a team with heavy Kawhi PnRs -- its very predictable and easy to exploit for the best teams ( but with 30%+ volume, Kawhi will still get his points that you 2k fans love. Truth is, Spurs won't win another championship until they get Kawhi help on the perimeter -- that's the next step for this franchise and hopefully they get it next summer. They need Kawhi to be ALL IN on D again, the huge responsibility on both ends is spreading himself too thin for as great as he is.

[GSH]

Damnation... solid basketball takes there. Seriously Apalisoc, and I mean this as a compliment - you drive me crazy sometimes with the damned click-bait thread starts, but then you post stuff like this.

Kawhi's scoring is up, but at the expense of just about everything else - especially his FG%. I agree with you about him being all-in on defense. Pop always says that good defense creates good offense. But poor offense turns into poor defense the same way. I think Kawhi could still get his points, but on a few less higher-percentage shots, and it would pay off on both ends of the floor.



I really question is ability to get there, because typically players need to have the foot speed, quickness, acceleration or elite level of change of direction to create the needed space to be a good creator from PnRs. Leonard has never had that and still doesn't til this day. Every pick and roll is either a mid range pull up off of separation from the pick (great screens), or its a physical fight with his upper body to get around the screen and into essentially an isolation ( or a complicated way to get into an isolation) -- which is the end result from a lot of PnR sets. Very rarely does Kawhi come clean off the PnR to a wide open lane -- when he does its usually when the defense of the Wizards or Kings makes a mistake because he doesn't have the tools in his legs to create significant separation needed to be a good creator or initiator.

At the end of the day, Spurs need a better play-maker from the perimeter. They won't be a championship contender with Kawhi being the Man in PnRs and having him play elite defense. His PnRs aren't good enough from a shots created perspective, and his defense will suffer because he's human and humans can only conserve so much energy and stamina.

I rather Kawhi be ALL IN on D and the boards and have hints or spots of PnR for him offensively with a usage rate around where it was last year. That, in my opinion, is the way to utilize Kawhi & his skill set optimally.


I think the idea is that, you get bigs that can shoot and force bigs to not show, hedge or double. In those conditions, his speed wont be much of a factor since the lane is open forcing reactions from the other big or the guys defending the corner three. It makes sense because older Point Guards/Shooting Guards operate in a similar fashion.

And that's most likely another reason why Pau Gasol and david lee was signed at least for this year. They know Kawhi isnt going to be much of a facilitator this hear as he is a scorer so the idea is that the playmaking will come from the open big..(Pau). This was evident against MIN since he was running his screen game with pau and not Aldridge..Which obviously hurt Aldridge possesion numbers.

Kawhi isnt that good at passing to the rollman either, so his options are very limited right now. The saving grace is that hes a great scorer and hes surrounded by Two great midrange jumpers. So the only other thing he is capable of doing and do it good is force the help from the bigs and a wide open pop.

I suppose the issue is that No team is really that concenred with the bigs taking jumpers so the end result is him just trying to score as evident with his PR scoring numbers.

If he was less deadly as a scorer, most likely teams will prioritize Aldridge and Pau...mot the case.

[apalisoc_9]

I also forgot to mention, just to add points on the whole PNR thing with Kawhi and Pau/Aldridge.

In many instances, and very many..Human reaction rely heavily on reflexes and quick decisions. Though, teams are more than likely going to.double kawhi instead of even bothering with the pop..Many occasions defenses so react with the midrange shot from the big.

The spurs gets at least 2-3 of those every game even when its evide t the gameplan is to let the big shoot.

PATFO cleaely relying on three things in this scenario. Kawhi score, Big man score with a Pop, poor reaction from defense and an open corner. Its a lethal enough combination if used together with a healthy dose of post ups..thats the key.

Its not a great solution as a main focus, but its deadly when its mixed with a working iso game and one of our ballhandlers ( Mills, Manu,Porker have a decent game)

Alternarively, Aldridge can develop a face up game so when the pass happens in the pop, he only has what 3-4 meters left to get to the basket..but thats another issue.

[dabom]

You're wrong again. That's called taking things out of context or not being able to comprehend.

I pointed out the reasons why Spurs have a tough time manufacturing good looks this year with the starting unit when he has the ball in PnRs.

Spurs will continue having a tough time getting out of the 2nd round having Kawhi be the man to do everything on both ends. He needs help and that's why I was pointing it out. Unlike you, I look at the big picture. I see through the great regular season records beating up on the 25 teams that are irrelevant. The offense does lack quality looks as a team with heavy Kawhi PnRs -- its very predictable and easy to exploit for the best teams ( but with 30%+ volume, Kawhi will still get his points that you 2k fans love. Truth is, Spurs won't win another championship until they get Kawhi help on the perimeter -- that's the next step for this franchise and hopefully they get it next summer. They need Kawhi to be ALL IN on D again, the huge responsibility on both ends is spreading himself too thin for as great as he is.

Again, we understand it's not Kawhi's fault for not having a reliable 2nd facilitator. Even Duncan could be considered 3rd when he passes from the top of the key. As far as I know, Kawhi is a huge positive Offensive impact whether its through facilitating, drawing the double from anywhere to getting his own shot, to even hockey assist. As far as we know, he is using the RS to fine tune his offensive repertoire for the playoffs. Him staying in the corner in the RS is not gonna help him in the playoffs. :lol

[MaNu4Tres]

Him staying in the corner in the RS is not gonna help him in the playoffs. :lol

No one is recommending him being a Bowen on offense. You take things some of us say and take it way too far to the extreme -- which is a sign of poor comprehension skills.

[dabom]

No one is recommending him being a Bowen on offense. You take things some of us say and take it way too far to the extreme -- which is a sign of poor comprehension skills.

I'm not saying that literally :lol, but you couldn't comprehend that. I used an extreme example of "focus on defense and less on offense". Which is what you are saying. It's still the same affect dumbass. :lmao

[dabom]

We're gonna have to continue this conversation later. I got important shit to do tomorrow.

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[apalisoc_9]

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Best Rim Protector not named Dedmon in the team.

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^ I love Kawhi's fire and passion, but simply can't do it all for his team..PATFO is really off to bad start as far as building a legit contender around him..just too many softies, gutless, past-it dead-weight on this team..

[Robz4000]

Now Shaq says he's the second best player on the planet...

[Kawhitstorm]

Now Shaq says he's the second best player on the planet...

Hasn't Shaq been saying that for a while now...........:wakeup

[Robz4000]

Hasn't Shaq been saying that for a while now...........:wakeup

Chuck was, first time I've heard it from Shaq

[sasaint]

^ I love Kawhi's fire and passion, but simply can't do it all for his team..PATFO is really off to bad start as far as building a legit contender around him..just too many softies, gutless, past-it dead-weight on this team..

...and won't really be able to correct course until it is time to negotiate Kawhi's next contract. As I have been saying for a couple of months that I hope that Kawhi is a patient and loyal Spur in the mold of DRob.

[Chinook]

Are people still acting like the Spurs haven't built a contender around Kawhi? Do people even know what the ideal Kawhi-centric roster would look like? If you do, I'm sure the Pacers, Bulls, Bucks and multiple other teams that are trying to build around wings/forwards would like to know, because it's not easy to do at all.

[BillMc]

Vid of Kawhi mauling All-Stars throughout his career. I remember so many of these plays....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEgRp_7iDY8

[BillMc]

Kawhi +66 in 3 games last week. :hat

http://stats.nba.com/players/traditional/#!?Season=2016-17&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&PerMode=Totals&sort=PLUS_MINUS&dir=-1&DateFrom=01%2F02%2F2017&DateTo=01%2F08%2F2017

[gambit1990]

Vid of Kawhi mauling All-Stars throughout his career. I remember so many of these plays....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEgRp_7iDY8
:claw

[100%duncan]

:wow

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Just read this now.

:worthy:

[ace3g]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lXu6jhqyWU

[loveforthegame]

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[SAGirl]

Kawhi is the KawhGod!!!! Don't nobody say anything different. Other franchises should be jealous for the Spurs having this guy.
:claw
:downspin:

[MR-Clutch]

Even the ball listens to Kawhi: https://streamable.com/m4yw7

[DAF86]

:lol

[spursistan]

Good to see Kawhi becoming more vocal and expressive this season with teammates, refs and inanimate objects :lol

* He is straight berating officials now, which is good and necessary for a super-star tier player..it was unthinkable 2 /3 years ago..

[spursistan]

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we’ll just list without additional comment the names of the nine other players to do that over the last quarter-century – Stephen Curry, LeBron James, Kevin Durant, Yao Ming, Carmelo Anthony, Tracy McGrady, Shaquille O’Neal, Karl Malone and Michael Jordan.

Yao aside, that company is tier1 HOF scoring talent..

[Ice009]

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Yao aside, that company is tier1 HOF scoring talent..

I wonder if he could have had a massive road game 30+ streak going now if Pop didn't sit him after the Cleveland game, or do you guys think he would have been too tried after that game to keep it going?

[ace3g]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C40_yZzVcAAdeQy.jpg:large

[apalisoc_9]

Harden is probably better than westbrook. Latter has been really overrated for the whole year.

[dabom]

Kenny is always a hater. :lol

[spurraider21]

:lol kobe notably absent from that list of players to accomplish the feat

[spursistan]

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This is true and welcome development for Kawhi..He is the undisputed face of team/franchise and should assume it even though reluctantly so..

[spursistan]

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I am giddy to see what his final ceiling is ..

[PopTheGOAT]

Get my nigga his hardware TBH

[NASpurs]

:worthy: MVP

[DAF86]

Somebody needs to get the "Kawhi for MVP" going. But seriously going, just come up with the facts and make everyone realize what's up and to stop being so caught up on overrated triiple doubles.

[Budkin]

Holy shit! Saved our asses!

[PopTheGOAT]

Holy shit! Saved our asses!
BIG time. More so than I can ever recall, tbh. We were completely lost, and he just took tf over

[loveforthegame]

Leonard is a bad man. If only his team would follow.

[DAF86]

Everytime he doesn't sit for most of the 4th quarter he gets to 30+ pts, tbh.

[TheDoctor]

Impressive 2nd half tbh. He scored 20 points in the last 20mins approx.

[spursistan]

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[Budkin]

Man, it's been awesome seeing Kawhi develop into a star.

[ace3g]

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[tholdren]

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Clevands "best" player demanding a trade, houstons best player making ass out of himself dancing, ny best player gets gm fired then begs to do what fired gm wanted to do...

Meanwhile. Spurs best player being a professional.

Enjoy it. After kl, nba will be awful.

[YGWHI]

If you miss #Kawhilights...A Blazer fan on Twitter made a thead about Kawhi being elite at offense, a serie of 11 vids of Kawhi's shots and stats.

Some of them

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[ace3g]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DHJhGuzUwAAZRdZ.jpg:large

[YGWHI]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DHJhGuzUwAAZRdZ.jpg:large

So Tim Duncan wasn't a superstar either :wtf

It's funny how Kawhi -top #6 selling jerseys, 3 Jordan commercials in 2 years, MVP and DPOY candidate at same time in last 2 seasons- is not a superstar

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[skulls138]

"He is what he is and thats all that he is" - Popeye

[cd98]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DHJhGuzUwAAZRdZ.jpg:large

I get this mentality with Tim, but how does the Claw not have an interest in developing a brand. When have we seen Kawhi turn down a marketing opportunity?

[Ice009]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DHJhGuzUwAAZRdZ.jpg:large

I have no problem with Penny having an opinion, but calling him a "good player" is a joke. He is a superstar, that's just a fact. That's got nothing to do with off court stuff. What you do on the court makes you a superstar. You have to be elite on the court to be a superstar. Kawhi is that.

Again, I have no problem with Penny having an opinion, but the guy based on that statement of his, is a fucking idiot. Kawhi's finished top 3 in MVP voting the past two seasons and he's not a superstar? Penny is a total dipshit.

[sasaint]

I have no problem with Penny having an opinion, but calling him a "good player" is a joke. He is a superstar, that's just a fact. That's got nothing to do with off court stuff. What you do on the court makes you a superstar. You have to be elite on the court to be a superstar. Kawhi is that.

Again, I have no problem with Penny having an opinion, but the guy based on that statement of his, is a fucking idiot. Kawhi's finished top 3 in MVP voting the past two seasons and he's not a superstar? Penny is a total dipshit.

"Leonard's no superstar," Hardaway opines.
But how does a Penny assay a dime?

[skulls138]

Hes equating "superstar" with things non-basketball. The talents in the results theres no disputing that. I see alot of this kind of war of framing players and ex-players legacys these days like Horry with Duncan and its so transparent. It has to do with some kind of animosity and not analyzing from a nuetral perspective like they like to come off seeming to be doing. No amount of that is going to change cold hard numbers and facts. Theyll live on long past these guy's comments.

[DenialTwist]

So Hardaway is equating success with popularity? Wrong.

[ace3g]

https://scontent-dft4-2.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/e35/20838921_263153310867385_1085933080079761408_n.jpg

https://www.instagram.com/p/BX3YtDqDYrt/?tagged=spurs

[YGWHI]

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:claw

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[hooperflash]

Can Kawhi get buckets on Kawhi?
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[apalisoc_9]

Kawhi needs to do something Contraversial to get his name out there.

Maybe imprenate a chinese girl or something

[rastaspur]

He should try and fight godzilla dave chappelle style. That will stir a media buzz

[cd98]

Kawhi needs to do something Contraversial to get his name out there.

Maybe imprenate a chinese girl or something

I'd be fine with him winning 4 out of 7 against GSW.

[KDKSpurs24]

Not sure if anybody posted it but Kawhi won Best Defender for the NBA Player Awards again.

[Phenomanul]

Maybe he can pick up some pressure point techniques from some Kung Fu masters over in China to "shank" Zaza on the court next season...

[tonight...you]

Maybe he can pick up some pressure point techniques from some Kung Fu masters over in China to "shank" Zaza on the court next season...
http://s3.crackedcdn.com/phpimages/article/3/5/8/531358_v1.gif

[apalisoc_9]

Not sure if anybody posted it but Kawhi won Best Defender for the NBA Player Awards again.

three in a row and hes going to win that every year probay even when his defense realy dips because of reputation.

[tonight...you]

three in a row and hes going to win that every year probay even when his defense realy dips because of reputation.
He already getting dat Kobe aura.

[Phenomanul]

http://s3.crackedcdn.com/phpimages/article/3/5/8/531358_v1.gif

Pretty much... :lol :lol :lol

[hooperflash]

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[YGWHI]

Just a reminder of what he did last season.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DMT-WwoXUAA3xfV.jpg
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List of players who have averaged 25+ points, with a usage over 30%, True Shooting over 60% & All-D 1st Team

:claw
GWS Kawhi. Have another MVP caliber season in 2017-18.

[cutewizard]

when is he back?????

[look_at_g_shred]

https://preview.ibb.co/nr70do/KL22.pnghttps://ibb.co/fe144Thttps://ibb.co/fe144T

[exstatic]

https://assets.atlasobscura.com/article_images/31792/image.jpg

[TDomination]

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This is true and welcome development for Kawhi..He is the undisputed face of team/franchise and should assume it even though reluctantly so..

Hmm this "growth" must have been only temporary.

[gambit1990]

i thought spurs-kawhi was over in february:

kawhi used to tear it the fuck up. rip bruh.