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WeNeedLength
02-15-2012, 09:10 PM
The refs have been incredibly kind to the Spurs during this RRT :lol

GSH
02-15-2012, 09:10 PM
lol Gino so smart

Gimme a one-handed, out of shape Manu in the clutch every time.

Manu-of-steel
02-15-2012, 09:10 PM
Parker in beasst mode offensively.

Spurs Brazil
02-15-2012, 09:10 PM
Manu saving the best flops for last :tu

:lol

Brazil
02-15-2012, 09:10 PM
TP is GOD !!!!!!!!! lol

clutch manu flop

Mal
02-15-2012, 09:10 PM
why you put one of the slowest players in your team, to play defens versus the quickest opponent ?

DPG21920
02-15-2012, 09:10 PM
Tiago 6/8 from the floor and should have finished one for sure he missed. :wow

roycrikside
02-15-2012, 09:10 PM
Manu's actually done a pretty nice job of cooling DeRozan off considering how hot he was when Ginobili checked in.

ElNono
02-15-2012, 09:11 PM
Whose foul was it? Neal? smh

DPG21920
02-15-2012, 09:11 PM
06 called, they want their foul back I saidddddddd

wildbill2u
02-15-2012, 09:11 PM
Can somebody give the score and minutes to go?

EVAY
02-15-2012, 09:11 PM
That was a make-up call for Calderon, but he missed it anyway.

Obstructed_View
02-15-2012, 09:11 PM
Stupid Green foul. Again. Damn.

Manu-of-steel
02-15-2012, 09:11 PM
I don't like the only thing left Manu has to use is his flop :(

It's called basketball IQ.

Cant_Be_Faded
02-15-2012, 09:11 PM
Splitter needs to learn the actual dream shake. He has the footwork and agility to do it, he basically does it just not the actual move-for-move dream shake


Danny Green taking away all that he gave back.

Spurs Brazil
02-15-2012, 09:11 PM
Green and his stupid fouls...

Rummpd
02-15-2012, 09:11 PM
Splitter is so fundementally sound with those screens

DesignatedT
02-15-2012, 09:12 PM
uhh nobody touched him lol

ElNono
02-15-2012, 09:12 PM
double-dribble

lol Toronto

BanditHiro
02-15-2012, 09:12 PM
unclutch raptors

RuffnReadyOzStyle
02-15-2012, 09:12 PM
Green with the 2006 Manu foul.

Splitter nowhere to be seen.

Obstructed_View
02-15-2012, 09:12 PM
Can somebody give the score and minutes to go?

105-100 45 secs to go.

jag
02-15-2012, 09:12 PM
lol the vast majority of his points are the result of good passes and him finishing. not taking the pass, posting up, making a move and making a basket


I actually just told your illiterate ass what percentage of his offense was created from posting up.

13% from offensive rebounds
36% from posting up -------> creating his own shot

Mal
02-15-2012, 09:12 PM
gary forbes :lmao

DPG21920
02-15-2012, 09:12 PM
Tiago doing a fantastic job there of sprinting back with a smaller player and causing that call.

Obstructed_View
02-15-2012, 09:12 PM
Turnover by the Raps. Spurs ball with 29 seconds.

jestersmash
02-15-2012, 09:13 PM
Wait, did Bill just say "Leonard comes in for some defense and rebounding while Splitter comes out"

ElNono
02-15-2012, 09:13 PM
Tony definitely deserves better than a C+ tonight

Manu-of-steel
02-15-2012, 09:13 PM
Can somebody give the score and minutes to go?

100-105, 29 secsa to go

RuffnReadyOzStyle
02-15-2012, 09:13 PM
Has there been a better 4th Q offensive player in the NBA than TP this year? Anyone got the stats?

timtonymanu
02-15-2012, 09:13 PM
The streak of keeping teams under 100 points is over. Spurs should hopefully get the win tonight though.

Supergirl
02-15-2012, 09:13 PM
just checking in - Tim only played 19 min? is he ok? is pop just resting him?

ElNono
02-15-2012, 09:13 PM
Has there been a better 4th Q offensive player in the NBA than TP this year? Anyone got the stats?

Jeremy Lin, IMO

Obstructed_View
02-15-2012, 09:13 PM
Cans both freebies. 107-100. 29.6 seconds to go.

ace3g
02-15-2012, 09:14 PM
Duncan giving Splitter some love during the timeout.

EVAY
02-15-2012, 09:14 PM
Parker with 30+ points and double figure assists, and if he hadn't done all of that, we would not have won this game. He has played 39 minutes tonight.

ElNono
02-15-2012, 09:14 PM
just checking in - Tim only played 19 min? is he ok? is pop just resting him?

black eye

TDomination
02-15-2012, 09:14 PM
107-100 spurs winning

29.6 secs left, raptors ball. parker just hit a couple of ft's

Cant_Be_Faded
02-15-2012, 09:14 PM
Jeremy Lin going to the All-Star game is the real life equivalent of when they ranked "Irish" Terry Conklin in the top 10 boxing in the 1996 movie The Great White Hype, so he could fight James "The Grim Reaper" Roper, played by Damon Wayans.

ElNono
02-15-2012, 09:14 PM
Manu flopping like crazy all over the court!!!

Manu-of-steel
02-15-2012, 09:14 PM
Green with the 2006 Manu foul.

Splitter nowhere to be seen.

Green did it twice tonight. Fouling a jump shot by anthonu carter and this time calderon

Supergirl
02-15-2012, 09:14 PM
black eye

from what????

Mal
02-15-2012, 09:14 PM
derozan getting schooled

Obstructed_View
02-15-2012, 09:15 PM
Jeremy Lin, IMO

Put Parker on a Mike D'Antoni team with no Amare and no Carmelo and he averages 40 and 10.

Mal
02-15-2012, 09:15 PM
from what????

ben wallace elbow

ElNono
02-15-2012, 09:15 PM
from what????

from last night

Spurminator
02-15-2012, 09:15 PM
Jeremy Lin, IMO

This year, not this week. :lol

RuffnReadyOzStyle
02-15-2012, 09:15 PM
After a slow start, TP is back to 2007-2009 form, when he was in the top 3 PGs in the NBA with Paul and Williams. He's playing much better than Williams right now, and about as well as Paul.

Texas_Ranger
02-15-2012, 09:15 PM
from what????

big ben

Arcadian
02-15-2012, 09:15 PM
Nine straight wins! I want to say we'll win 15 straight, but I looked at the upcoming schedule, and it's pretty tough.

ElNono
02-15-2012, 09:15 PM
Put Parker on a Mike D'Antoni team with no Amare and no Carmelo and he averages 40 and 10.

No doubt.

GSH
02-15-2012, 09:15 PM
Green and his stupid fouls...

Green never touched him, and the foul was called on Splitter.

Brazil
02-15-2012, 09:15 PM
from what????

you didn't see the game yesterday ? a little discussion with big Ben

ElNono
02-15-2012, 09:16 PM
This year, not this week. :lol

:lol

RuffnReadyOzStyle
02-15-2012, 09:16 PM
Jeremy Lin, IMO

When he's done it for 25 games in a row we'll have the conversation... ;)

Brazil
02-15-2012, 09:17 PM
TP could have played that well yesterday when I was in the arena ! fucking parker

GSH
02-15-2012, 09:17 PM
Apparantly Manu broke his balls when he broke his left hand.

You waited until 30 seconds left in the game to say the stupidest fucking thing of the night?

Paranoid Pop
02-15-2012, 09:17 PM
Lol TP looking like a cyborg at the line wtf.

Spurs Brazil
02-15-2012, 09:18 PM
34pts 14asts for Tony

timtonymanu
02-15-2012, 09:18 PM
Apparantly Manu broke his balls when he broke his left hand.

Give it time. He will be back eventually.

Brazil
02-15-2012, 09:18 PM
When he's done it for 25 games in a row we'll have the conversation... ;)

ruff Lin is for real man ! make me an offer !

ElNono
02-15-2012, 09:18 PM
When he's done it for 25 games in a row we'll have the conversation... ;)

All Star!

Reck
02-15-2012, 09:18 PM
Another rough win.

Can we come home yet?

Supergirl
02-15-2012, 09:18 PM
you didn't see the game yesterday ? a little discussion with big Ben

im in boston and don't get to see any of the games. i didn't hear about him getting a black eye from big ben, yikes

Manu-of-steel
02-15-2012, 09:18 PM
Those are the final nails in the coffin. Great game by TP.

Rummpd
02-15-2012, 09:18 PM
Spurs played down to the competition the last two nights but last two wins important as 21 and 9 is a fine start with the Manu injury....

ElNono
02-15-2012, 09:19 PM
lol Pop... why you even put RJ out there if he can't even fucking inbound?

timtonymanu
02-15-2012, 09:19 PM
Christ. End this already.

WeNeedLength
02-15-2012, 09:19 PM
Wow. Raptors are scoring 2 points every 3 seconds.... :lol

Spurs Brazil
02-15-2012, 09:20 PM
Green never touched him, and the foul was called on Splitter.

saw in the replay. my bad

GSH
02-15-2012, 09:20 PM
lol Pop... why you even put RJ out there if he can't even fucking inbound?

I'm trying to figure out why they would inbound on the Raptors end to begin with.

RuffnReadyOzStyle
02-15-2012, 09:20 PM
In Splitter and Leonard, we have two building blocks for the future of the team.

I've changed my mind on rebuilding though - I think with the really good role playing youth we've finally uncovered, this core should try to contend for at least 2 more seasons - Manu looks like he hasn't lost a step, and Timmy has proven he's still a force (although not what he was). We need to find an athletic young defensive big though, and we need to somehow trade Bonner for Ryan Anderson.

ElNono
02-15-2012, 09:20 PM
Manu stat padding

EVAY
02-15-2012, 09:20 PM
Parker's fatigue is evident in the 5 fouls he has tonight.

GSH
02-15-2012, 09:21 PM
saw in the replay. my bad

Heh... he's earned it on a few other plays tonight. Just protecting my boy from the unearned ones.

Cant_Be_Faded
02-15-2012, 09:21 PM
Spurs are setting themselves up to be McGrady'ed

Juggity
02-15-2012, 09:21 PM
6 spurs in double figures tonight.

Almost 7, but Timmy was one basket short.

DPG21920
02-15-2012, 09:21 PM
This is annoying :lol

Manu-of-steel
02-15-2012, 09:22 PM
Manu in double figures as well

Paranoid Pop
02-15-2012, 09:22 PM
Parker's fatigue is evident in the 5 fouls he has tonight.

And he had more TOs than usual too it seems.

jag
02-15-2012, 09:22 PM
hololinger

You're retarded and don't know what you're talking about?

Mal
02-15-2012, 09:22 PM
Why raptors are doing this ?

RuffnReadyOzStyle
02-15-2012, 09:22 PM
ruff Lin is for real man ! make me an offer !

Lin has absolutely no left hand, and I can't believe the NBA hasn't worked it out yet.

Love the guy, but I don't think he'll keep the 25/10 games coming. Maybe 12/8 when Melo returns - still nice numbers.

WeNeedLength
02-15-2012, 09:22 PM
Just get one stop and the game is over FFS.... :bang

ElNono
02-15-2012, 09:23 PM
We win!

Robz4000
02-15-2012, 09:23 PM
That was the longest final minute I've ever born witness to.

Mal
02-15-2012, 09:23 PM
make it 9 in a row

DPG21920
02-15-2012, 09:23 PM
Impressive win for the Spurs, what an amazing streak they are on. Not only the longest streak in the league, but 5 road wins in a row :wow

Paranoid Pop
02-15-2012, 09:24 PM
.500 road record

ChumpDumper
02-15-2012, 09:24 PM
Splitter played the most of any big man.

Go figure.

WeNeedLength
02-15-2012, 09:24 PM
So Raptors shot 55% and dropped 106 on the Spurs tonight without 3 of their best players...

Ahhhh fuck it, 9 in a row baby!!!!!!!

TDMVPDPOY
02-15-2012, 09:24 PM
In Splitter and Leonard, we have two building blocks for the future of the team.

I've changed my mind on rebuilding though - I think with the really good role playing youth we've finally uncovered, this core should try to contend for at least 2 more seasons - Manu looks like he hasn't lost a step, and Timmy has proven he's still a force (although not what he was). We need to find an athletic young defensive big though, and we need to somehow trade Bonner for Ryan Anderson.

bonner is fine as long you dont have high expectations from him...

blair, corey and JA needs to be traded....

looks like we got a solid 8 man rotation

Obstructed_View
02-15-2012, 09:24 PM
That was the longest final minute I've ever born witness to.

You must have missed the Mavericks when Don Nelson was the coach. They'd foul in the last ten seconds down 12 points.

RuffnReadyOzStyle
02-15-2012, 09:24 PM
Excellent! What an RRT! I thought we'd be 3-2 or 2-3 at this point.

Manu-of-steel
02-15-2012, 09:24 PM
Nice win! 9-game win streak,woooh!

timtonymanu
02-15-2012, 09:24 PM
We got the win and that's all that matters. Scrub teams have nights like these. As long as the Spurs stay focused.

Brazil
02-15-2012, 09:25 PM
Lin has absolutely no left hand, and I can't believe the NBA hasn't worked it out yet.

Love the guy, but I don't think he'll keep the 25/10 games coming. Maybe 12/8 when Melo returns - still nice numbers.

come on ruff... I'll trade him for quite cheap.. Lin doesn't need a left hand

024
02-15-2012, 09:25 PM
i'll take any b2b road wins but this defense is crumbling

jestersmash
02-15-2012, 09:25 PM
Manu showing pretty good form on his free throws and even hitting a 3 is making me feel much more at ease. Hopefully he'll be back to good form (rust shaken off/good conditioning) in 3-4 weeks.

EVAY
02-15-2012, 09:25 PM
And he had more TOs than usual too it seems.

I was wrong. He only had two fouls but two turnovers, per the stat line. I made the mistake of believing that Bill Land knew what he was talking about when he said Tony had five fouls.

wildbill2u
02-15-2012, 09:26 PM
I appreciate you guys keeping the scores and time coming. It's frustrating to not have TV coverage and not know the scores. Thanks again.

RuffnReadyOzStyle
02-15-2012, 09:26 PM
bonner is fine as long you dont have high expectations from him...

blair, corey and JA needs to be traded....

looks like we got a solid 8 man rotation

Bonner is fine in the regular season but a disaster in the playoffs. We need a stretch 4 who doesn't choke in the playoffs.

Robz4000
02-15-2012, 09:26 PM
You must have missed the Mavericks when Don Nelson was the coach. They'd foul in the last ten seconds down 12 points.
Oh man, that brings back memories. The final 10 minutes of a game last longer than the first 38 in the NBA.

jag
02-15-2012, 09:26 PM
reserve me a pew in the church of splitter when he creates his own shot


Like the 35+% of his offense that he "creates on his own" while posting up?


lol the vast majority of his points are the result of good passes and him finishing. not taking the pass, posting up, making a move and making a basket


I actually just told your illiterate ass what percentage of his offense was created from posting up.

13% from offensive rebounds
36% from posting up -------> creating his own shot

I'll reserve your obese ass a "pew" in the church of Splitter.

Russ
02-15-2012, 09:27 PM
Defense was bad tonight, but a win is a win.

On to the Clips.:flag:

Brazil
02-15-2012, 09:28 PM
I'm not a big fan of the 39 mn that TP played... I really hope TJ will be back soon... thats too much

jag
02-15-2012, 09:28 PM
Splitter played the most of any big man.

Go figure.

Was it something you expected?

RuffnReadyOzStyle
02-15-2012, 09:28 PM
come on ruff... I'll trade him for quite cheap.. Lin doesn't need a left hand

I've got 5 PGs, don't need him. I'd maybe give you Jason Thompson. Who do you want for him?

GSH
02-15-2012, 09:29 PM
One of those things that generally don't get appreciated - Manu was awesome getting around screens tonight. I noticed it and started watching, and it was just a beautiful thing. My late Christmas wish is that he could teach Green to do that. It would make Green a much better player, and help the team a lot too.

I don't care if Manu isn't back to 100%, or if his shot isn't all the way there yet, or anything else. The guy is so damned court-savvy, he's always contributing. I would have to check the numbers, but I think he was the only one to do a good job of containing Derozan.

RuffnReadyOzStyle
02-15-2012, 09:29 PM
I'll reserve your obese ass a "pew" in the church of Splitter.

Thank you for PWNing the fucktard. I have him on ignore these days.

TDMVPDPOY
02-15-2012, 09:30 PM
i'll take any b2b road wins but this defense is crumbling

i blame the perimeter players in green, parker, kl who gives there man to much spacing and always chasing under the screen where they are always late

ChumpDumper
02-15-2012, 09:30 PM
Was it something you expected?As long as it wasn't over 30 it was bound to happen sometime.

Brazil
02-15-2012, 09:31 PM
I've got 5 PGs, don't need him. I'd maybe give you Jason Thompson. Who do you want for him?

I knew you couldn't resist... :lol let me have a look

RuffnReadyOzStyle
02-15-2012, 09:32 PM
One of those things that generally don't get appreciated - Manu was awesome getting around screens tonight. I noticed it and started watching, and it was just a beautiful thing. My late Christmas wish is that he could teach Green to do that. It would make Green a much better player, and help the team a lot too.

I don't care if Manu isn't back to 100%, or if his shot isn't all the way there yet, or anything else. The guy is so damned court-savvy, he's always contributing. I would have to check the numbers, but I think he was the only one to do a good job of containing Derozan.

Great call. :tu

RuffnReadyOzStyle
02-15-2012, 09:33 PM
I knew you couldn't resist... :lol let me have a look

That you want to get rid of him so badly means you don't believe his run will continue either, but if the deal is right I might give it a go.

BackHome
02-15-2012, 09:33 PM
Oh my god we need to get rid of Blair he needs to go in order for us to have any chance of getting another ring. We need to find a true PF to replace Blair and why is Cory/Smiley still even on this team he needs to go back to the D-League.

angelbelow
02-15-2012, 09:35 PM
I'll reserve your obese ass a "pew" in the church of Splitter.

Hes not coming back.

Besides, he probably wouldn't understand that even when Splitter gets assisted on the pick and roll, hes slick enough to make something happen and produce. The way he gets open and the way he gets into a favorable position is the reason why hes special.

If what he did was really so easy we'd see more players do this:


So I asked myself: "Self, how many bigmen in the NBA are as well rounded as Tiago Splitter?"

Per 36 minutes, Splitter is averaging 16.2 points, 9.1 rebounds, 2.1 assists, 1.4 blocks and 5.0 free throw attempts. I use basketball-reference.com to search for players who are averaging 16 points, 9 rebounds, 2 assists, 1 block and 5 free throw attempts per 36 minutes this season.

I'm surprised when only two players in the NBA match that criteria.
Tiago Splitter is obviously one.
The other?
Tim Duncan.
:hat

TDMVPDPOY
02-15-2012, 09:35 PM
Oh my god we need to get rid of Blair he needs to go in order for us to have any chance of getting another ring. We need to find a true PF to replace Blair and why is Cory/Smiley still even on this team he needs to go back to the D-League.

i knew we be in it for the long run when blairs first 2 offensive plays...he fkn bricked the shit or never had any intentions of passing it out....fck that shit, we were so lucky green and RJ were nailing shots in the first quarter

therealtruth
02-15-2012, 09:39 PM
Hes not coming back.

Besides, he probably wouldn't understand that even when Splitter gets assisted on the pick and roll, hes slick enough to make something happen and produce. The way he gets open and the way he gets into a favorable position is the reason why hes special.

If what he did was really so easy we'd see more players do this:

I think Duncan and Splitter may be too of the most intelligent big men. I'll take bigmen with high basketball iq over ones that are ultra-athletic but have low bbiq.

jag
02-15-2012, 09:40 PM
Besides, he probably wouldn't understand that even when Splitter gets assisted on the pick and roll, hes slick enough to make something happen and produce. The way he gets open and the way he gets into a favorable position is the reason why hes special.



He's really good at finding open space, and he's a big target for ball handlers out of the PnR. His post-up game is currently the single highest contributor to his overall offensive game. So he can generate offense even when other players aren't creating for him in the PnR or with penetration.

GSH
02-15-2012, 09:44 PM
Hes not coming back.

Besides, he probably wouldn't understand that even when Splitter gets assisted on the pick and roll, hes slick enough to make something happen and produce. The way he gets open and the way he gets into a favorable position is the reason why hes special.




Someone tonight was complaining that Splitter doesn't get his hands high enough when he shoots, or something ridiculous like that. Splitter is so good about protecting the ball with his body and the rim, selling his moves, etc. that he makes it look easy. Yeah he takes most of his shots around the rim, but he's shooting 62% and most other bigs in the league would be shooting 50% (or less) with the same opportunities.

He's not bringing a lot of thunderous dunks, but he gets himself a lot of easy-looking shots. He's actually padding some other players' assist stats at times.

Russ
02-15-2012, 09:49 PM
I think Duncan and Splitter may be too of the most intelligent big men. I'll take bigmen with high basketball iq over ones that are ultra-athletic but have low bbiq.

Stayed tuned for the perfect test of your theory Saturday in the Staples lab.

Arcadian
02-15-2012, 09:50 PM
Lin has absolutely no left hand, and I can't believe the NBA hasn't worked it out yet.

Love the guy, but I don't think he'll keep the 25/10 games coming. Maybe 12/8 when Melo returns - still nice numbers.

He doesn't need to score 25, and he doesn't need to score with his left. He's a distributor point guard who makes plays for his teammates and is capable of scoring when needed. He'll be a great compliment to Anthony.

BTW, how do you know that he has no left hand? Is it because you have yet to see him use his left hand, or because he often misses with his left? Did you mean he can't shoot with his left, or dribble, or both? I think his ball handling is good enough to set up a right-hand shot even when a left might be more appropriate.

RuffnReadyOzStyle
02-15-2012, 09:52 PM
He's really good at finding open space, and he's a big target for ball handlers out of the PnR. His post-up game is currently the single highest contributor to his overall offensive game. So he can generate offense even when other players aren't creating for him in the PnR or with penetration.

...if the team gives him the ball. In the 4th Q tonight he scored twice in three plays, then other players settled for 4 straight long jumpers!? Feed the Splitter you morons!

TDMVPDPOY
02-15-2012, 09:53 PM
this game has shown what we all needed to do, send fkn corey to the dleague damn it...charity minutes blowing out leads :(

RuffnReadyOzStyle
02-15-2012, 09:55 PM
He doesn't need to score 25, and he doesn't need to score with his left. He's a distributor point guard who makes plays for his teammates and is capable of scoring when needed. He'll be a great compliment to Anthony.

BTW, how do you know that he has no left hand? Is it because you have yet to see him use his left hand, or because he often misses with his left? Did you mean he can't shoot with his left, or dribble, or both? I think his ball handling is good enough to set up a right-hand shot even when a left might be more appropriate.

He doesn't go left, and I've seen him shoot layups on the left side with his right hand (admittedly many players do this but shouldn't).

I'd guess the reason Morey let him go was his lack of a left hand, and I'm surprised teams aren't over-guarding his right. He loves to crossover left-to-right, and he's still fooling people with it.

jag
02-15-2012, 09:56 PM
Someone tonight was complaining that Splitter doesn't get his hands high enough when he shoots, or something ridiculous like that. Splitter is so good about protecting the ball with his body and the rim, selling his moves, etc. that he makes it look easy. Yeah he takes most of his shots around the rim, but he's shooting 62% and most other bigs in the league would be shooting 50% (or less) with the same opportunities.

He's not bringing a lot of thunderous dunks, but he gets himself a lot of easy-looking shots. He's actually padding some other players' assist stats at times.

Yeah, that was me.

I'll explain what I meant in case it wasn't all that clear. He is definitely good at finishing around the rim (72.7% on his lay-ups this season), but he sometimes rushes his shots for fear of being blocked and misses some easy looks. The game against Detroit is a good example. He should have had 21 points. He missed 4 easy layups that he normally makes because he was either rushing his shots and/or releasing his shots from too low resulting in him playing it off the glass at bad angles. At times he does a good job of using his body to shield his shots, but he often releases the ball from right in front of his face while he's doing it. It leads to a lot of missed "gimmes" after he's done work to get in great position.

Don't get me wrong, he good at finishing around the rim, but his game is still adapting to the NBA game and it's just something I think he could improve. He did it once or twice today, but overall he did well taking his time and not rushing his shots.

DieHardSpursFan1537
02-15-2012, 09:59 PM
Great to see 9 wins a row, but the road trip is going to get much more tough especially at L.A.

TDMVPDPOY
02-15-2012, 10:00 PM
tonights match only proves one thing for the raptors leading up to their next match which is against the bobcats....TANK

U CANT STOP THE TANK

http://dumb.ws/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/53.gif

GSH
02-15-2012, 10:05 PM
Yeah, that was me.

I'll explain what I meant in case it wasn't all that clear. He is definitely good at finishing around the rim (72.7% on his lay-ups this season), but he sometimes rushes his shots for fear of being blocked and misses some easy looks. The game against Detroit is a good example. He should have had 21 points. He missed 4 easy layups that he normally makes because he was either rushing his shots and/or releasing his shots from too low resulting in him playing it off the glass at bad angles. At times he does a good job of using his body to shield his shots, but he often releases the ball from right in front of his face while he's doing it. It leads to a lot of missed "gimmes" after he's done work to get in great position.

Don't get me wrong, he good at finishing around the rim, but his game is still adapting to the NBA game and it's just something I think he could improve. He did it once or twice today, but overall he did well taking his time and not rushing his shots.


It always impresses me when somebody just explains what they mean and, like, has a discussion and stuff. Whenever it happens, I tend to think maybe they have something to say. I'm funny that way.

My first thought is that you're splitting hairs, and I think that he's shooting such a high percentage because of the way he handles the ball when he's surrounded by the big trees. I know a lot of guys show the ball too much and get it swatted away. But I'll watch to see if I can see what you're talking about.

jag
02-15-2012, 10:14 PM
My first thought is that you're splitting hairs, and I think that he's shooting such a high percentage because of the way he handles the ball when he's surrounded by the big trees. I know a lot of guys show the ball too much and get it swatted away. But I'll watch to see if I can see what you're talking about.

I guess it probably is just "splitting hairs". But the majority of his missed shots from around the rim seem like a result of him rushing and not keeping his composure. It's a small thing, but in the Pistons game it resulted in him going 4-9 with 13 pts as opposed to 8-9 with 21 points.

GSH
02-15-2012, 10:21 PM
I guess it probably is just "splitting hairs". But the majority of his missed shots from around the rim seem like a result of him rushing and not keeping his composure. It's a small thing, but in the Pistons game it resulted in him going 4-9 with 13 pts as opposed to 8-9 with 21 points.


I'm curious now - I'm going to watch. It's one thing if a guy misses some shots, but if there's a tendency there it really can be improved. Especially if he starts spending more time against starting bigs. I don't know - but I know I don't know.

You realize how good you're suggesting he could be? It sort of boggles the mind.

jag
02-15-2012, 10:22 PM
crofl

didn't know i had to hit refresh on spurtalk every 5 seconds to back up the obvious

here's a list of spurs playas, percentage of times they are assisted on their 'inside' shots:

blair 77 ford 67 leonard 66 splitter 64 anderson 62 bonner 60 jefferson 50 duncan 46 green 42 neal 40 ginobili 31 parker 25

We weren't specifically referring to "inside" shots. We were both referring to his overall offense and how well he does/doesn't create his own shots and how much he relies on his teammates for offense.

His shot attempts on post-up plays are not assisted. Not to mention, the majority (44 of 63) of his post shots come from outside of 4 feet.

So again (not counting tonight's game):

36% of his offense comes from post-up plays

13.7% of his offense comes from putbacks from offensive rebounds. - also not assisted.

FkLA
02-15-2012, 10:24 PM
Splitter does have a really low release point on his hook shots. Seems like he prefers to pull his arm way back away from his body like at a 45 degree angle to avoid shot blockers instead of going straight up and using his length. Looks kind of gay sometimes but you cant really complain too much about the results.

TDMVPDPOY
02-15-2012, 10:27 PM
lol the clowns in here going hard on splitters offensive game, who gives a shit as long he gets his production and defensively beasting....watch the minutes his in and when his replace, you see how quick he can build you a lead, only to see the starters blow it

jag
02-15-2012, 10:29 PM
If you can't go hard on a Wednesday night after a win over the Raptors then when can you go hard?

Manufan909
02-15-2012, 10:53 PM
Hes not coming back.

Besides, he probably wouldn't understand that even when Splitter gets assisted on the pick and roll, hes slick enough to make something happen and produce. The way he gets open and the way he gets into a favorable position is the reason why hes special.

If what he did was really so easy we'd see more players do this:

Where did timvp put his "tim and tiago are so well rounded" post exactly?

jag
02-15-2012, 10:57 PM
splitter's offensive game is finishing around the rim, not shaking and baking in the mid range or high post:


Close to 40% of all his attempts are within the 4-10ft range. Maybe you just doing understand the dimensions of a basketball court, but 4-10 ft away from the rim is not considered "around the rim". His assisted layups and dunks aren't coming from 4-10 ft away from the rim.

You keep referring to the majority of his shots "around the rim" or "inside" being assisted. This may come as a shock to you, but the majority of post players' inside shots come from assisted plays. Splitter is no different.

But this discussion had nothing to do with his inside shooting. It had to do with whether or not he's capable of generating his own offense. You said he cant. Then I showed you that he creates 36% of his offense on post-up plays, where he has a 44.4% FG%.


reserve me a pew in the church of splitter when he creates his own shot

angelbelow
02-15-2012, 11:22 PM
Where did timvp put his "tim and tiago are so well rounded" post exactly?

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=191353

Manufan909
02-15-2012, 11:46 PM
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=191353

Why thank you my good man.:toast

angelbelow
02-15-2012, 11:57 PM
Why thank you my good man.:toast

Np, its a good read. GSH also brings the goods in that thread.

TDMVPDPOY
02-16-2012, 01:04 AM
the only problem with splitters shake and baking, sometimes the refs call it a travel, sometime he gets so deep downlow he misjudges his releases...but if he hits like 70% of the given opportunities then its fair game you cant be negative about his points scored...

Russ
02-16-2012, 10:15 AM
the only problem with splitters shake and baking, sometimes the refs call it a travel,...

Refs aren't used to seeing footwork at that level in NBA big men. Their little minds short-circuit their eyes.

TampaDude
02-16-2012, 10:57 AM
Another RRT victory...Spurs just keep on marching toward the playoffs.

GO SPURS GO!!!!!