Game Blog: Spurs @ Jazz - April 9 - 8:00 PM CT

[Ice009]

:lol @ "competed"

So who the fuck did you want defending Harris. You just said Neal got burned on defense against Harris.

Mills did a better job on Harris.


Oh that's right you probably wanted Bonner guarding Harris.

[Mugen]

Yeah those layups getting stuffed back in his face will be huge in the playoffs.

Why do you hate Tiago so much, Eric?

Pop says he's a good guy. You should too.

[T Park]

LOL are you now saying that Tiago shouldn't play more than Blair or Bonner in the playoffs?


Nope.

[pgardn]

Yeah those layups getting stuffed back in his face will be huge in the playoffs.

His low post game off the dribble is not his forte.

Setting high screes and rolling is. He is not going to beat many centers one on one consistently if he is not moving.

Mainly he is tall and can at least get rebounds that Bonner and Blair cant hope to reach. And he is more mobile than both so he can bother shots. This is really what makes him most valuable. His picks out high that result in layups are nice but secondary.

[TheSkeptic]

Why do you hate Tiago so much, Eric?

Pop says he's a good guy. You should too.

Activist avy, subliminal messaging, sales-style coercion, just after a game that took place in Salt Lake City. :lmao :lmao :lmao

So much going right in this post. :lmao

[T Park]

So who the fuck did you want defending Harris. You just said Neal got burned on defense against Harris.

Mills did a better job on Harris.


Oh that's right you probably wanted Bonner guarding Harris.


You said Neal "competed"

I laughed and though Mills was better.

The times Harris went off was when Mills was on the bench.

[DPG21920]

He really said this was Matt's best game all year while bagging on Tiago :lol. Balsy.

Not even taking into consideration defense where Tiago was clearly better than Matt:

Player A: 26 min, 4-8 FG, 0 FTA, 10PTS, 3 REB, 0 AST, 0 STL, 1 BLK

Player B: 26 min, 5-8 FG, 4-5 FTA, 14 PTS, 6 REB, 1 AST, 1 STL, 2 BLK

Which is better?

[Ice009]

Lol.

Bonner has his best game of the year and the Spurstalk experts still hate him.


Class. All class.

Best game of the year WOW. I've seen him have great games in Utah. I have no idea why he plays so good against them, but he does. Since I know he has good games there I don't much stock into those games because Utah isn't a Championship contender, and they might not even make the playoffs.

All I care about is how Matt plays against the teams that are, and he usually stinks against the best teams. Especially when it comes to shooting the ball against those elite defensive teams.

[T Park]

Why do you hate Tiago so much, Eric?

Pop says he's a good guy. You should too.


Don't hate him at all.

Love Splitter.

[T Park]

He really said this was Matt's best game all year while bagging on Tiago :lol. Balsy.

Not even taking into consideration defense where Tiago was clearly better than Matt:

Player A: 26 min, 4-8 FG, 0 FTA, 10PTS, 3 REB, 0 AST, 0 STL, 1 BLK

Player B: 26 min, 5-8 FG, 4-5 FTA, 14 PTS, 6 REB, 1 AST, 1 STL, 2 BLK

Which is better?




Splitter played better.

Never said otherwise.


Link to where I did?

[T Park]

His low post game off the dribble is not his forte.

Setting high screes and rolling is. He is not going to beat many centers one on one consistently if he is not moving.

Mainly he is tall and can at least get rebounds that Bonner and Blair cant hope to reach. And he is more mobile than both so he can bother shots. This is really what makes him most valuable. His picks out high that result in layups are nice but secondary.

Agreed.

Just sick of a 7 footer getting his shots sent back at him like he's muggsy fucking bogues...

[Ice009]

You said Neal "competed"

I laughed and though Mills was better.

The times Harris went off was when Mills was on the bench.

I said Mills competed against Harris.

Do you know how to read? How about you read that statement again.

I said Mills wasn't as bad as some people said and that he competed against Harris on defense.

I would have went with Neal at the 2 guard and Mills at PG to finish the game, moving Green to the bench. Neal really is shit defensively against quick PGs and Harris killed him. Would have been much better at the 2 guard to finish out the game.

[DPG21920]

You said this was Matt's best game of the season, would you like a link? While at the same time rolling your eyes at Tiago "getting his shot stuffed" and implying he won't help in the playoffs.

[DesignatedT]

His low post game off the dribble is not his forte.


According to most on here earlier in the year he was better/more reliable down low compared to Duncan and "4 down belonged to him now".

[DPG21920]

Also, waiting for that Twitter link....

[Ice009]

Danny Green simply didn't know what to do with the ball. He ran around then made crappy shots. He can't handle the pressure, that's all.

He's just not a good improviser and makes easy shots look awkward.

I don't think he choked under pressure at all. He's been missing easy shots and turning them into difficult ones all season. He's been doing this in any quarter of any game.

[Mugen]

According to most on here earlier in the year he was better/more reliable down low compared to Duncan and "4 down belonged to him now".

T, who do you think is the second best big this year after Tim?

[T Park]

You said this was Matt's best game of the season, would you like a link? While at the same time rolling your eyes at Tiago "getting his shot stuffed" and implying he won't help in the playoffs.

Never said Bonner was better than Splitter.

Still waiting on that link.

[T Park]

Also, waiting for that Twitter link....

I'm linking you to your own twitter profile now?

That's just plain laziness.

[DPG21920]

Because you made something silly up :lol

[DesignatedT]

T, who do you think is the second best big this year after Tim?

Splitter and it's not close. I've said this all year.

[T Park]

I said Mills competed against Harris.

Do you know how the read. How about you read that statement again.

I said Mills wasn't as bad as some people said and that he competed against Harris on defense.

I would have went with Neal at the 2 guard and Mills at PG to finish the game, moving Green to the bench. Neal really is shit defensively against quick PGs and Harris killed him. Would have been much better at the 2 guard to finish out the game.


Apologies I will learn how the read soon.

Neal didn't do anything to warrant being the two guard either.

[Mugen]

Splitter and it's not close. I've said this all year.

k thx

[T Park]

Because you made something silly up :lol

Then someone on twitter has your identical name from on her then if that's not you.

[BackHome]

Tonight:

Neal sucked as usual when he play PG...he defense was terrible.
Mills sucked needs to know when to pass.
Blair defense was terrible.
Green who I liked was finishing like a little girl and getting his shit blocked all night.
SJ played bad I think Pop needs to get him in condition and he needs to play in every game even if only a few minutes.
Diaw sucked.

Bonner I never though I would say this but he was playing great defense...Wow..
Splitter played very good.
Kawhi played good lord knows why he wasn't out there more in the fourth?

[DPG21920]

Never said Bonner was better than Splitter.

Still waiting on that link.


Lol.

Bonner has his best game of the year and the Spurstalk experts still hate him.


Class. All class.


Yeah those layups getting stuffed back in his face will be huge in the playoffs.

You said this is Matt's best game. You dogged splitter. So unless you are saying an average game for Splitter was better than "Matt's best game of the season", what are you talking about?

[DPG21920]

Then someone on twitter has your identical name from on her then if that's not you.

Nope. I'm on twitter. My handle just says nothing of what you said it did :lol

[pgardn]

Agreed.

Just sick of a 7 footer getting his shots sent back at him like he's muggsy fucking bogues...

Well here is the bad news. Tiago cant jump and his hook is as flat as a pancake... and its funky at that.

The good news is he is tall and can move. He is very agile. I feel much more comfortable with him this year. Both Bonner and Tiago got put in spots that they dont excel in. Bonner had to rush his 3, Tiago had to try and produce offense on his own. In fact most of the guys were doing extra things they are not good at. Green over dribbling, Jackson trying to create for himself and then just relying on the 3 with tired legs...

I liked the effort. did not like the last 4 min.

[T Park]

You said this is Matt's best game. You dogged splitter. So unless you are saying an average game for Splitter was better than "Matt's best game of the season", what are you talking about?


I stated individual things.

Why is that so hard to understand?

Splitter getting rejected like a Hedo Nesterovic was annoying.

Bonner with no Duncan I thought played his best defense of the year and played well all around for him.

Dont see where you think I'm saying bonner omgz >>>> Splitter

[TheSkeptic]

According to most on here earlier in the year he was better/more reliable down low compared to Duncan and "4 down belonged to him now".

Honestly, statistically he probably has been better in the post because it seems like Duncan is either really good or really not. When he's on then of course you give it to him but at his age it really depends on the day more than anything else. Sort of like what I see the Celtics going through quite a bit these days.

Although his misses are super ugly, Tiago's been getting better and better in the post. He can back men his size down without problems now and a lot of his misses come from rushing his shot. That's a confidence thing more than anything else and with a few more reps I have no doubts he'd be even better. Of course, his strength is still pick and roll but during a game like this one they should've fed him the ball more.

They both have their strengths and weaknesses (Tim obviously way more strengths than weaknesses), but 4 down probably should be called for Tiago more often between the two of them.

Tim is still a fantastic player and when he's feeling it he should get priority, but he's been getting most of his points facing up and shooting this year anyway.

That's my opinion though (and you obviously disagree :D) but I've tried to be as fair as possible with it.

[T Park]

Well here is the bad news. Tiago cant jump and his hook is as flat as a pancake... and its funky at that.

The good news is he is tall and can move. He is very agile. I feel much more comfortable with him this year. Both Bonner and Tiago got put in spots that they dont excel in. Bonner had to rush his 3, Tiago had to try and produce offense on his own. In fact most of the guys were doing extra things they are not good at. Green over dribbling, Jackson trying to create for himself and then just relying on the 3 with tired legs...

I liked the effort. did not like the last 4 min.


Don't disagree with any of this.

Love Splitter.

Hope he finishes games with Manu Parker Duncan and Jackson.

[T Park]

Nope. I'm on twitter. My handle just says nothing of what you said it did :lol

Righty O....

[Ice009]

Apologies I will learn how the read soon.

Neal didn't do anything to warrant being the two guard either.

It was a typo and I corrected it. LOL trying to take shots at people's typos.

PATHETIC, when you couldn't read the first statement I made correctly.

Yes Neal did. He was the only one that scored in crunch time. I'd say that defenitely earned him minutes out there.

With him only having to concentrate on shooting he would have been much better off than trying to guard Harris, run the team and score all the points. That's what Pop had him doing out there. He put more of a load on Gary than any other player on the team in crunch time.

Now that I've typed that out, Pop seriously put too much pressure on Neal and put him in a bad spot expecting him to do it all was foolish of Pop.

First thing you need to look at is that he can't consistently guard players like Harris. Asking him to do all the other stuff on top is stupid coaching from Pop.

[DPG21920]

What my Twitter says:


DPG21920: Knowledgable Spurs Fan

What you claim:


Wouldn't expect anymore from the self given "smartest mind on basketball" on twitter.

[Ice009]

Tonight:

Neal sucked as usual when he play PG...he defense was terrible.
Mills sucked needs to know when to pass.
Blair defense was terrible.
Green who I liked was finishing like a little girl and getting his shit blocked all night.
SJ played bad I think Pop needs to get him in condition and he needs to play in every game even if only a few minutes.
Diaw sucked.

Bonner I never though I would say this but he was playing great defense...Wow..
Splitter played very good.
Kawhi played good lord knows why he wasn't out there more in the fourt?

I disagree with some of those takes.

Mills played the best defense on Harris than anyone else. Diaw was solid and has been in more pressure situations than Bonner. Apart from his reaching and getting cheap fouls his defense wasn't too bad. He should have played instead of Bonner to finish out the game.

Kawhi, the reason is simple. It's shooting. It's tough to play him in crunch time because Pop probably thought he needed more shooters out there.

Bonner you can throw away the game because he's had like 3 of his best ever career games at SLC in Utah. No idea why he plays so good there. He doesn't usually back these type of games up against any of the elite teams.

[T Park]

Lmao educated spurs fan.


That's even better.

Sorry that I didn't take the time memorize your "profile"

You were right I was wrong I apologize.

[Spurs da champs]

Splitter played good but damn he gets blocked too much, he needs to be a more effective post scorer & quit being so soft. But man Jack was beyond terrible & Mills is just a joke.

[T Park]

It was a typo and I corrected it. LOL trying to take shots at people's typos.

PATHETIC, when you couldn't read the first statement I made correctly.

Yes Neal did. He was the only one that scored in crunch time. I'd say that defenitely earned him minutes out there.

With him only having to concentrate on shooting he would have been much better off than trying to guard Harris, run the team and score all the points. That's what Pop had him doing out there. He put more of a load on Gary than any other player on the team in crunch time.

Now that I've typed that out, Pop seriously put too much pressure on Neal and put him in a bad spot expecting him to do it all was foolish of Pop.

First thing you need to look at is that he can't consistently guard players like Harris. Asking him to do all the other stuff on top is stupid coaching from Pop.




Aww poor Gawwy had too much to worry about.

So he's not good enough to shoot open threes and guard?

Even more reason to sit his ass down.

[T Park]

Splitter played good but damn he gets blocked too much, he needs to be a more effective post scorer & quit being so soft. But man Jack was beyond terrible & Mills is just a joke.


Mills is a joke?

Wtf?

[DPG21920]

Lmao educated spurs fan.


That's even better.

Sorry that I didn't take the time memorize your "profile"

You were right I was wrong I apologize.

The day I get laughed at by a retar....nevermind. Welcome back. Again.

[Spurs da champs]

Mills is a joke?

Wtf?

How is he not?
He's just a chucker & a ball stopper, we already have Neal who is obviously the better of the two.

[Mugen]

Aww poor Gawwy had too much to worry about.

So he's not good enough to shoot open threes and guard?

Even more reason to sit his ass down.

So Bonner should sit too then.

[pgardn]

Honestly, statistically he probably has been better in the post because it seems like Duncan is either really good or really not. When he's on then of course you give it to him but at his age it really depends on the day more than anything else. Sort of like what I see the Celtics going through quite a bit these days.

Although his misses are super ugly, Tiago's been getting better and better in the post. He can back men his size down without problems now and a lot of his misses come from rushing his shot. That's a confidence thing more than anything else and with a few more reps I have no doubts he'd be even better. Of course, his strength is still pick and roll but during a game like this one they should've fed him the ball more.

They both have their strengths and weaknesses (Tim obviously way more strengths than weaknesses), but 4 down probably should be called for Tiago more often between the two of them.

Tim is still a fantastic player and when he's feeling it he should get priority, but he's been getting most of his points facing up and shooting this year anyway.

That's my opinion though (and you obviously disagree :D) but I've tried to be as fair as possible with it.

This is what I am hoping. A lot of work on the post game. He has quick feet, he just has to keep working on his hook and up and under pivot. Maybe next season.

[Ice009]

Aww poor Gawwy had too much to worry about.

So he's not good enough to shoot open threes and guard?

Even more reason to sit his ass down.

So what I am saying has no logic at all? Does Gary not suck at guarding speedy PGs? Does Gary excel at shooting?

You don't think it would have been easier for Gary to be guarding a slower shooting guard and looking to get open on offense to shoot a set shot instead of trying to run the team?

Who would you have put in with Mills at shooting guard if Gary was to be on the bench?

You don't think what I am saying is logical? Please tell me what you would do. And don't give me an answer of "I don't know I'm not the coach". Who would you play?

Please answer.

[TheSkeptic]

This is what I am hoping. A lot of work on the post game. He has quick feet, he just has to keep working on his hook and up and under pivot. Maybe next season.

Yeah I'm not expecting him to put it all together this year. I do hope he'll do it eventually because he has the potential to be very very good.

[Mugen]

Aww poor Gawwy had too much to worry about.

So he's not good enough to shoot open threes and guard?

Even more reason to sit his ass down.

I'm just glad that using your logic above, you agree Matt Bonner should "sit his ass down."

Thank you. Glad to have you back, Tpark.

[T Park]

The day I get laughed at by a retar....nevermind. Welcome back. Again.

Go ahead and finish calling me retarded.

All because I disagree with you on a basketball take.

Oh if only I was as educated.

[T Park]

I'm just glad that using your logic above, you agree Matt Bonner should "sit his ass down."

Thank you. Glad to have you back, Tpark.


Lol always gotta turn it back to Bonner.

Man it's like a sick fetish with you guys...

[Mugen]

Lol always gotta turn it back to Bonner.

Man it's like a sick fetish with you guys...

I already agreed with you about sitting Bonner's ass down.

And what do you mean... you guys?

[T Park]

So what I am saying has no logic at all? Does Gary not suck at guarding speedy PGs? Does Gary excel at shooting?

You don't think it would have been easier for Gary to be guarding a slower shooting guard and looking to get open on offense to shoot a set shot instead of trying to run the team?

Who would you have put in with Mills at shooting guard if Gary was to be on the bench?

You don't think what I am saying is logical? Please tell me what you would do. And don't give me an answer of "I don't know I'm not the coach". Who would you play?

Please answer.


I would've gone Mills Green Jackson Diaw Splitter down the stretch.


I'm not the coach so just pissing in the wind and no Neal wouldn't have guarded Gordan Hayward any better.

[T Park]

I already agreed with you about sitting Bonner's ass down.

And what do you mean... you guys?


Was talking about the forum pet Gary Neal, but okie doke...

[Ice009]

I would've gone Mills Green Jackson Diaw Splitter down the stretch.

I could have went with that 5 too. Would have loved your opinion earlier on your closing 5.

It just seemed to me that Pop wanted Neal out there so someone had to be benched to keep him there, and I would have moved him to SG and benched Green.

I would have been OK with that lineup. The reason I wouldn't have went with Green is because he is a poor finisher, his defense would have been better, but I don't think his offense is better than Gary's.

[T Park]

I could have went with that 5 too. Would have loved your opinion earlier on your closing 5.

It just seemed to me that Pop wanted Neal out there so someone had to be benched to keep him there, and I would have moved him to SG and benched Green.

I would have been OK with that lineup. The reason I wouldn't have went with Green is because he is a poor finisher, his defense would have been better, but I don't think his offense is better than Gary's.



Green doesn't take shots out of the offense though while
Neal does.

It's all hunkydory when he's making those pull up threes, but when he's jacking them up like he's Ricky Pierce, then it kills you.

[Ice009]

Green doesn't take shots out of the offense though while
Neal does.

It's all hunkydory when he's making those pull up threes, but when he's jacking them up like he's Ricky Pierce, then it kills you.

Very true. It doesn't seem like Pop has gotten on him about though as he continues to do it. I would love to know what Pop thinks about it and what he tells him about doing that. Having said all that Neal is more likely to make a shot than Green even if Green doesn't take too many shots out of the offense.

[DPG21920]

Go ahead and finish calling me retarded.

All because I disagree with you on a basketball take.

Oh if only I was as educated.

The word is knowledgable clown

[vander]

so the spurs lost and there's not a single "other color" user in the spurs section atm

hmm, I find that a bit interesting

[jiggy_55]

Crappy crappy play in the 4th. Can't believe we were up 8 pts in the 4th with this shit team and we couldn't pull off the win. Zero effort in the 4th q and Sjax's shooting was simply disgusting tonight. Lead the team with a +/- of -15, way to go Jackson after having the night off yesterday! Maybe he needs to start working on that stroke of his rather than his shit music career, all his 3's are bricks. Usually when a shooter misses a 3 you can see that the ball is headed in the right direction, with Jackson you can just see that the shot is a brick, awful honestly.

Pop's a retard for tonight, loss is obviously on him 100%. You play Tony tonight and you get a win. WTF is up with him resting a 29 year old player who is in the peak of his career? Which team rests its 29year old superstar EVER? Duncan was never rested 5-6 years ago like TP has been rested, he only plays 33mpg night anyways. I wonder how some older players make it through playing 36+mpg a night and are never rested. This really gets to me. I can understand Manu and Duncan, but Tony no. What i really hate is resting them all the same night, if Pop insists on giving Tony a rest then fucking give it to him another easy game we would probably win without him.


:lol STFU

1- You guys need to stop kissing Pop's ass when he makes stupid and weird ass decisions like tonight that do not help the team whatsoever. There's simply no need to force a loss on your team and rest your 3 most important players on one night, yet Pop has done this twice already and it's retarded. Under no circumstances is this acceptable, the simple logic is to spread the DNP's over 2 or 3 games with each player getting a night off. It worked before and it will more than likely work on most nights and end up with a W.

2- Tony is young, I've never seen an old 29 year old yet. Never seen a 29 year old rested more than twice a season, Pop needs to stop pampering him. Duncan never got rest 6 or 7 years ago, and he used to play more than 33mpg. I get that this is a lockout season with a tight schedule, but I don't see other superstars being rested and they are older and play more minutes than TP does.

3- I know Pop could care less about the fans, but this is the NBA's most internationally represented team and some of us fans wake up in the middle of the morning to watch our Spurs play. I don't wake up at 4am happy to watch the Big 3 being rested while our team is asking for a loss. American fans will never quite understand this, but it's quite annoying. I also don't like it when we play a game pretty much asking to lose, this team is capable of beating most teams even with 2 of the Big 3 out, and I would have preferred to see Tony playing while the other 2 were rested.

4- Sjax's shooting was awful, no matter how you look at it. There really is no arguing this one, his shooting was on display for all of you to see. Been shooting below 30% for SAS, and below 30% for MIL this season. His shot is completely off and it doesn't even go straight, hits the side of the rim more often than not. Very ugly.

:toast