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SpurinDallas
04-27-2012, 02:20 PM
Had to condense, but here are his Spurs predictions:

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(1) Spurs vs. (8) Jazz

Season: Spurs 3-1
Power Rankings: Spurs 109.2, Jazz 101.9
Accuscore: Spurs 93% Jazz 7%
Could Utah make this interesting? Perhaps. Size gives San Antonio some problems, and the monstrous Millsap-Jefferson-Favors frontcourt the Jazz have rolled out of late has been incredibly effective. Additionally, Utah stinks against zones, and the Spurs hardly ever play zone.
Nonetheless, I just don't see how the Jazz will get any stops. Utah is by and large awful against the pick-and-roll, and the Spurs have been carving up teams with that play all season. The Jazz's defense at the point of attack would have to dramatically improve to give them much of a chance against this Spurs juggernaut.
Keep an eye on the Jazz because in another year or two they're going to be handful, but they can't handle this big a step up in class just yet. Even when the Spurs sat their three stars in Salt Lake City, the Jazz barely beat them.
Pick: Spurs in 5


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(1) Spurs vs. (4) Grizzlies

Season: Spurs 4-0
Power Rankings: Spurs 109.2, Grizzlies 102.5
Accuscore: Spurs 80%, Grizzlies 20%
It's a rematch of last season's huge upset, in which No. 8 Memphis knocked off top-seeded San Antonio, and a few trends from a year ago remain. Memphis did an amazing job taking away San Antonio's 3-point game a year ago, and that will be Job 1 again this time around. The Grizzlies also have a matchup problem for the Spurs in the Randolph-Gasol frontcourt, and this time around they have Rudy Gay on the wing too.
Alas, San Antonio did not stand still. Manu Ginobili is healthy this time, and the supporting cast is much better. Boris Diaw and Tiago Splitter give the Spurs more options for defending Randolph, plus the Spurs aren't facing the Z-Bo of a year ago. Also, the second units are going to matter in a compressed series with a back-to-back in the middle, and the Spurs' bench is going to blow the Grizzlies' off the floor. Finally, there's the issue of accumulated rest. San Antonio is fresh as a daisy; the Grizzlies have been riding the starters all year and may very well be coming off a grueling seven-game slog with no rest.
For all those reasons, I think San Antonio avenges last season and emerges relatively easily as a conference finalist.
Pick: Spurs in 5

CONFERENCE FINALS


Sorry to be so chalky here, but the fact is four teams have dominated the entire regular season, so it would be a little bizarre to go off kilter and pick somebody else to show up at this point. Not saying it can't happen; just saying it's probably not the way to bet.
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(1) Spurs vs. (2) Thunder

Season: Spurs 2-1
Power Rankings: Spurs 109.2, Thunder 106.9
Accuscore: Thunder 51%, Spurs 49%
The Thunder are really talented and nearly always play hard. They don't always play smart, however, and they're about to get a serious education in this series. I expect the Spurs' offensive precision to pick them apart, and while Durant and Westbrook will get some of those points back for the Thunder, I still have a hard time picking OKC when the Spurs basically used the regular season as a warm-up exercise and still outpaced them in the standings.
My favorite stat: San Antonio's three stars -- Tony Parker, Manu Ginobili and Tim Duncan -- have only played 297 minutes together the entire season because Ginobili missed half the year and the Spurs have been so proactive about resting players. When they do play together? San Antonio outscores opponents by 17.8 points per 48 minutes. Again, that's not a typo: 17.8.
The good news for the Thunder is that the Spurs have a few ineffective lineups. The bad news is that most of them included Richard Jefferson, now with Golden State. San Antonio's bench won't be as much of a factor as it was in the regular season, but they'll still run the Thunder's subs off the floor when they're matched up. And that Big 3 that has played just four minutes per game together this season will get closer to 20 minutes of family time a night in this series.
Pick: Spurs in 5

NBA FINALS


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(2) Heat vs. (1) Spurs

Season: Heat 1-0
Power Rankings: Spurs 109.2, Heat 104.6
Accuscore: Spurs 53%, Heat 47%
If you haven't figured this out by now, I'm all-in on San Antonio. The Spurs' best players are in far better shape physically than anybody else's, their bench is kicking serious butt, they can match up any big, small or anything in between, and they've taken steps to address their biggest shortcoming, defending post-up 4s.
Statistically, the lineup data backs the Spurs, too. San Antonio's Big 3, when on the court together, has actually been even more effective than Miami's. The same applies when only two of the three stars share the floor.
And they're still gaining steam. The Spurs outscored opponents by over 15 points per game over the final 20; what stands out about that is that they were resting their best players heavily in that stretch and still destroyed all comers. They're 21-2 in their past 23 games; one of the two losses was a game against Utah in which they opted not to play their three stars. If New York or L.A. had a stretch like this it would break the Internet but because it's San Antonio hardly anyone is discussing it.
So, yes, I expect the Spurs to win it all. But let me offer solace for fans of the other 15 teams: It's been a while since I got this right. Strange stuff can and will happen during the next two months, and that's the best part of the playoffs.
Nonetheless, the odds say that we'll have fiesta No. 5 on the Riverwalk this June.
Pick: Spurs in 6

SnakeBoy
04-27-2012, 02:33 PM
So it is written, so shall it be

z0sa
04-27-2012, 02:35 PM
Not a bad pick IMHO

SpurinDallas
04-27-2012, 02:37 PM
I'm surprised he has us winning every series in 5 games until the Finals. Maybe I'm just being cautiously conservative in my own predictions.

z0sa
04-27-2012, 02:38 PM
I'm surprised he has us winning every series in 5 games until the Finals. Maybe I'm just being cautiously conservative in my own predictions.

Gotta realize how statistically hard we've raped teams all season. Additionally, it's only gotten better as we became healthier/traded RJ here at the end. Considering Hollinger's formulas and general mindset, he really has no choice but to pick the Spurs and assert they will dominate. Otherwise he looks stupid.

TDMVPDPOY
04-27-2012, 02:46 PM
the loss to the heat in the regular season, we were up +20pts in the first half....only to go cold in the 2nd half where they beat us by a margin :(

admiralfats
04-27-2012, 03:26 PM
that number about the spurs big 3 outscoring teams more than the heat big 3 is pretty awesome. wow. go spurs.

Rummpd
04-27-2012, 03:41 PM
Lets hope the metrics do not lie as on paper Spurs should roll through the West at least.

spurs1990
04-27-2012, 04:04 PM
Seriously with the way the season ending, the Spurs literally blowing out every team they played, you would have to strive hard to bring up reasons NOT to pick the Spurs to win it all.

The experts who still have the Spurs losing to Memphis or OKC are going out on a limb tbh.

DPG21920
04-27-2012, 04:05 PM
Hollinger has sucked lately

therealtruth
04-27-2012, 04:17 PM
The Spurs definitely look more like the real deal this year.

J.T.
04-27-2012, 04:20 PM
My favorite stat: San Antonio's three stars -- Tony Parker, Manu Ginobili and Tim Duncan -- have only played 297 minutes together the entire season because Ginobili missed half the year and the Spurs have been so proactive about resting players. When they do play together? San Antonio outscores opponents by 17.8 points per 48 minutes. Again, that's not a typo: 17.8.
The good news for the Thunder is that the Spurs have a few ineffective lineups. The bad news is that most of them included Richard Jefferson, now with Golden State.

:lmao quote of the season

bigfan
04-27-2012, 04:34 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bQnxlHZsjY

timvp
04-27-2012, 04:53 PM
Cue everyone loving Hollinger.

Seriously though, he's picking the Spurs because the Spurs are first in his power rankings ... not because he actually likes 'em. He just likes for his formulas to be right, tbh.

Good write-up, though :tu

Budkin
04-27-2012, 04:58 PM
I hope this all comes true.

Manu'sMagicalLeftHand
04-27-2012, 05:01 PM
Seriously though, he's picking the Spurs because the Spurs are first in his power rankings ... not because he actually likes 'em. He just likes for his formulas to be right, tbh.


This. There are few basketball analysts more full of themselves than Hollinger. Let's go one step at the time, first the Jazz on Sunday.

Dr Cox
04-27-2012, 05:03 PM
man i really hope he is right.

spurs1990
04-27-2012, 05:09 PM
Kurt Rambis just went all in on the Spurs for about 5 min on Espn right now.

The black anchor predictably tried to talk him off his message, predictably.

callo1
04-27-2012, 05:18 PM
Meh...games are played on the court, not on paper or in a computer. I like the Spurs chances, but the games have to be played.

When the "experts" pick against their team they are reviled by fans, and when they make a meaningless plug for their team they are revered.

I just hope Pop doesn't shorten up the rotations too much...got to dance with the one who brought you. More Tiago and Diaw over Blair against the Jazz, but that is about it.

TampaDude
04-27-2012, 05:20 PM
I agree with his prediction about the Finals.

Spurs vs. Heat with the Spurs winning in 6.

:lobt2: :lobt2: :lobt2: :lobt2: :lobt2:

The ADMIRAL 50
04-27-2012, 05:28 PM
Kurt Rambis just went all in on the Spurs for about 5 min on Espn right now.

The black anchor predictably tried to talk him off his message, predictably.

Hmmm...dunno exactly why the race card needed to be played but I saw that as well. Rambis seemed really hyped on us and did his best to set the record straight on us being a fun team to watch with only a reputation of being boring. He stressed that point which was nice. To be fair though he was only picking us to win the west, he didnt give his finals pick. Nice to see the theory that people with actual basketball knowledge like the Spurs be reinforced.


I agree with his prediction about the Finals.

Spurs vs. Heat with the Spurs winning in 6.

:lobt2: :lobt2: :lobt2: :lobt2: :lobt2:

Thats what I just picked in a playoff bracket pool myself :tu

I figure Spurs win 1 and 2, take one in Miami, and wrap it up at home in Game 6

Cry Havoc
04-27-2012, 05:29 PM
Could you post the entire article? I'd like to read the whole thing.

TampaDude
04-27-2012, 05:39 PM
Thats what I just picked in a playoff bracket pool myself :tu

I figure Spurs win 1 and 2, take one in Miami, and wrap it up at home in Game 6

Yup...WWLWLW...:lobt2:

PublicOption
04-27-2012, 06:05 PM
So it is written, so shall it be




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SpursIndonesia
04-27-2012, 06:35 PM
Yeah, Lollinger can't throw his rating & statistics to the thrash bin, he has to stick to it and predict us as the champ, whether it's really his gut feeling & favorite or not.

smrattler
04-27-2012, 06:36 PM
It's not that he's adjusting his playoff picks to validate his ranking formulas. He's just using the same math, formulas, logic, etc. So of course his #1 ranked will come out on top.

TD 21
04-27-2012, 07:31 PM
Seriously with the way the season ending, the Spurs literally blowing out every team they played, you would have to strive hard to bring up reasons NOT to pick the Spurs to win it all.

The experts who still have the Spurs losing to Memphis or OKC are going out on a limb tbh.

Those so-called "experts" are just ignorant and are letting their personal bias get in the way. Broussard has a major problem with them, because they're not in bed with the CAA, where he get's much of his information from. Adande has a major problem with them, because they've caused his Lakers more trouble than anyone for over a decade. Smith has a major problem with them, because he doesn't like the city. And in general, the national media has a major problem with them, because they're not a glamor franchise, nor a team with a star who's ass they're contractually obligated to kiss.

The phony reasoning for them being so skeptical about this team is laughable: "Remember what happened last season?". I seem to remember the Mavs winning the championship and the Lakers being swept, among other things. So by their logic, there's a high probability of those things happening again too. The truth is, they were just as skeptical throughout last regular season. I don't know why they're pretending a year later like they were on their bandwagon until the playoffs.

They refuse to acknowledge/aren't aware of the major differences between this year's team and last, because they see the same principles and many of the same names in general. Never mind that this team is healthier, surging, bigger, deeper, tougher both mentally and physically and just flat out better in general. And they just can't accept/process how a team without a player who's playing at a full fledged superstar level and who only has about four real recognizable names, can be this good. Because it goes against everything they think they know about the league.

T Park
04-27-2012, 07:33 PM
Wow, he just has them dominating the West.

Point to the gods and hope he's right....

Danny.Zhu
04-27-2012, 09:34 PM
Hollinger has sucked lately

100%duncan
04-28-2012, 12:38 AM
I was shocked but good write up overall, not just because he picked the Spurs but he actually had great proofs to support his argument.

SenorSpur
04-28-2012, 12:31 PM
Aside from the likes of Broussard, Adande, Rob Parker and the vertiable Stephen "I'm enthralled with my personal vocabulary" Smith, the majority of NBA experts ARE actually picking the Spurs to win it all - as the OP has indicated.

Get set because the earth is now going to tip over on it axis, pigs will now begin to fly and hell hath frozen over.

spurs1990
04-28-2012, 01:13 PM
Aside from the likes of Broussard, Adande, Rob Parker and the vertiable Stephen "I'm enthralled with my personal vocabulary" Smith, the majority of NBA experts ARE actually picking the Spurs to win it all - as the OP has indicated.

Get set because the earth is now going to tip over on it axis, pigs will now begin to fly and hell hath frozen over.

Add the following to the detractors who don't have SAS coming out of the west.
Tim legler
Jon barry
Steve smith
Sam Mitchell

TampaDude
04-28-2012, 05:57 PM
Add the following to the detractors who don't have SAS coming out of the west.
Tim legler
Jon barry
Steve smith
Sam Mitchell

Jon Barry hates the Spurs so much he'd be saying the Thunder will come out of the West a week after the Riverwalk Championship Parade. :lol

Spurs and Mavs fan
04-28-2012, 07:27 PM
He thinks San Antonio is going to go 16-5 in the playoffs?

I like the picks, but I don't think the Spurs are that dominant of a team.

DMC
04-28-2012, 07:49 PM
We pick conservatively because we would rather be wrong with a winning team than be right with a losing one.

It goes like this:

1 (best) right with winning team
2. wrong with winning team
3. right with losing team
4. wrong with losing team

Of course getting 1 would be ultimate, you could talk shit all year and bump your own posts to show what a badass you are. It comes at a risk of being number 4 though.

Picking 2 is a safe bet because, if the Spurs win, we don't give a shit what we predicted. If they lose and we ran our pie holes about how they were going to win, we have to see that thread every few days as someone bumps it. It comes at a risk of 3.

But we don't have to answer to critics, so we can take the safe bet and go neutral or there abouts. Pundits have to make a call and back it up with "facts" and all that nonsense. We just go by feeling.

RuffnReadyOzStyle
04-28-2012, 09:13 PM
I think the Grizz will push us to 6, and the Thunder maybe to 7 games, but I think this Spurs team has the chemistry, depth, flexibility and heart to go all the way this year. An even better indicator is the fact that SPAM is well and truly in effect this season (whereas we haven't seen it in the past few seasons), and the Spurs have won 4 rings when SPAM shows up. Hollinger might just get it (mostly) right for a change! :lol