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ElNono
05-07-2012, 11:26 AM
So, I loved the first one, and the second one was ok. This one is not made by Remedy anymore, but was handed over to the same guys that did Red Dead Redemption. It even uses the same engine.

Anybody else looking forward to this one?

Reck
05-07-2012, 11:52 AM
I was excited for another Max Payne game but when I found out they took the supernatural elements out of the game I got disinterested quick.

resistanze
05-07-2012, 05:19 PM
Part 2 was fruity but I'm looking forward to dis one.

Trainwreck2100
05-07-2012, 07:44 PM
I'm a bit chagrined, Rockstar's product has been shit lately, not counting RDR.

NASpurs
05-07-2012, 09:01 PM
If Wikipedia is correct, Max Payne 3 is being done by the people who did Bully for the PS2 (Rockstar Vancouver). Rockstar San Diego (RDR people) aren't involved with this. Bully was a great game though but pretty amazing these dudes haven't done a game since then.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rockstar_Vancouver
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rockstar_San_Diego

ElNono
05-08-2012, 03:27 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Payne_3

MavDynasty
05-08-2012, 09:35 PM
Never played any of the Max Paynes. RDR was amazing, GTA is damn fun although 4 got old fast, and La noire was a good game but I could never get into it.

Is this shit good and what's it about?

Leetonidas
05-08-2012, 09:52 PM
The first one is badass, my favorite game of it's type for those consoles next to Manhunt (need a non-shitty sequal/remake to this too), but the second one was awful, Max didn't even look the same. Hope this one is better, but imo the game didn't really need sequels with the way the first one ended

vander
05-08-2012, 09:54 PM
never played Max Payne, but Max Payne 2 was great, more games like that need to be made.

not really interested in 3 because Rockstar.

edit: oh wait I have played the first one, just hardly remember it anymore

ElNono
05-09-2012, 01:58 AM
The first one was great... very film noir, and the first game with "bullet time"... the second one was more arcadish... I wouldn't mind if this one is open world...

ynh
05-09-2012, 04:18 PM
I always thought I was the only one that didn't care for the second. The first was amazing, minus the dream levels.. It was one of the first great games for the xbox (ported from PC.. the PS2 version was shit).

I couldn't get into the Second because the story seemed complete to me after the first.. I had a hard time caring about the characters.. and as someone said it was way too arcadey.

I rarely finish games.. like maybe a dozen I have in my life and Max is one that I did.. The second I played for a couple hours and just never touched again.

So, Im interested, but it could go both ways for me.

ynh
05-09-2012, 04:21 PM
Oh and someone asked what the story is like on the first. Basically your family is killed, cops think you did it, there is some new drug on the street that is tied to your families death.. and that's about the basics.

DJ Mbenga
05-09-2012, 04:43 PM
will probably try this after i finish up mass effect 2 renegade run.

ElNono
05-10-2012, 06:44 PM
it's already out on the interwebs

ElNono
05-11-2012, 11:27 AM
Rental warning...

resistanze
05-11-2012, 05:04 PM
Download warning...

i c

ElNono
05-12-2012, 12:27 PM
Apparently, it's like a Max Payne themed Call of Duty... it's a linear movie-like story and you get the play the shooting actions... no sandbox on it... oh, well

resistanze
05-12-2012, 12:44 PM
And it's 2 discs...not sure I even want to burn my DLs on em....

ElNono
05-12-2012, 01:44 PM
And it's 2 discs...not sure I even want to burn my DLs on em....

lol burning... xk3y ftw

Bynumite
05-14-2012, 09:02 AM
it's a linear movie-like story and you get the play the shooting actions... no sandbox on it... oh, well

So it's exactly like MP 1 and 2.


lol burning... xk3y ftw

Do you play on Live with that? Because some people recommend offline use only and the Max Payne 3 multiplayer looks pretty good, that and the new Ghost Recon.

Reck
05-14-2012, 05:17 PM
Sons this game is trash.

ElNono
05-14-2012, 11:41 PM
So it's exactly like MP 1 and 2.

But it isn't. Max Payne 1 had a compelling story, and was for the most part well done (perhaps the biggest drawback were the dream levels). MP 2 was closer to this.


Do you play on Live with that? Because some people recommend offline use only and the Max Payne 3 multiplayer looks pretty good, that and the new Ghost Recon.

Better to stay off live, especially if you run anything before release date.
That said, I've read people not really having a problem with it on Live. You just have to not give a shit if you end up getting banned.

I just don't have time for multiplayer, tbh...


Sons this game is trash.

It's very repetitive, tbh. And like I said, there's 20 other games like it out there now.

Venti Quattro
05-17-2012, 01:43 AM
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Trainwreck2100
05-18-2012, 10:10 PM
Just finished the game, it was hard as fuck. But it wasn't anything special, I'd say it's better than GTA4 and LA Noire. The cover system was fucked and only one point in the game did i feel like a badass. Alot of that had to do with the weak soundtrack.

Reck
05-18-2012, 11:01 PM
Just finished the game, it was hard as fuck. But it wasn't anything special, I'd say it's better than GTA4 and LA Noire. The cover system was fucked and only one point in the game did i feel like a badass. Alot of that had to do with the weak soundtrack.

rofl

Please dont ever say that again, ever. :lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:l ol:lol:lol:lol:lol

Trainwreck2100
05-18-2012, 11:49 PM
rofl

Please dont ever say that again, ever. :lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:l ol:lol:lol:lol:lol

GTA4 sucked, and was vastly overrated (by the critics, anyone who played it knows it was shit), LA noire was boring, at least I expected this game to suck.

Reck
05-19-2012, 12:14 AM
GTA4 sucked, and was vastly overrated (by the critics, anyone who played it knows it was shit), LA noire was boring, at least I expected this game to suck.

:lmao

All the game reviewers gave this game a 9+. Most anticipiated game ever, got universal acclaim and its the highest rated game of all time.

This game is so awesome it spun several mini episodes and DLCs and its servers are still open to this day.

GTA4 has sold over 20 million copies and has racked up over 500 million dollars.

By everyone, do you mean just you?

I'm sorry but the millions upon millions of people who bought and played this game didn't think this game sucked. :lol

You have no idea what you are talking about do you? You are either an idiot or have not played the game at all.

I have not met anyone that hasn't liked this game.

And now that that's out of the way, what makes Max Payne 3 better than this game? rofl

MP3 doesn't even come close to GTA4.

GTA4 has a better, longer story
Better online play
Has infinite replay value

Your comparison and blatant idiocy has failed you miserably.

Trainwreck2100
05-19-2012, 12:54 AM
:lmao

All the game reviewers gave this game a 9+. Most anticipiated game ever, got universal acclaim and its the highest rated game of all time.

This game is so awesome it spun several mini episodes and DLCs and its servers are still open to this day.

GTA4 has sold over 20 million copies and has racked up over 500 million dollars.

By everyone, do you mean just you?

I'm sorry but the millions upon millions of people who bought and played this game didn't think this game sucked. :lol

You have no idea what you are talking about do you? You are either an idiot or have not played the game at all.

I have not met anyone that hasn't liked this game.

And now that that's out of the way, what makes Max Payne 3 better than this game? rofl

MP3 doesn't even come close to GTA4.

GTA4 has a better, longer story
Better online play
Has infinite replay value

Your comparison and blatant idiocy has failed you miserably.

Mass Effect 3 got a ton of good reviews too, that game was also hot garbage. GTA4's story is not better, GTA4's story was shit, worst protagonist of the major GTA era. This game is worth just as much as GTA was story wise, a rental

resistanze
05-19-2012, 09:26 AM
True story. GTA3, Vice City and San Andreas were all better than GTA4. Just because IGN gives it an 10 doesn't mean shit.

These are the same guys that gave Mass Effect 3 a 9.6 and called it a "fitting end to the series" and also have a staff member as a VA in the game.

Now whether Max Payne 3 is better, I don't know, haven't played it.

Reck
05-19-2012, 11:20 AM
True story. GTA3, Vice City and San Andreas were all better than GTA4. Just because IGN gives it an 8 doesn't mean shit.

These are the same guys that gave Mass Effect 3 a 9.6 and called it a "fitting end to the series" and also have a staff member as a VA in the game.

Now whether Max Payne 3 is better, I don't know, haven't played it.

Yeah no doubt GTA3 Liberty City was the best imo.

But that's not even what its been discussed at all.

Dude its saying GTA4 its straight up garbage. He is clearly talking out of his ass.

And I've played Max Payne 3 and it doesn't even stand next to GTA4 at all. Hell the first Max Payne game does circles around the third one.

MavDynasty
05-19-2012, 11:45 AM
Tbh GTA4 didn't "suck" but it did get old after a while. Single player just didn't have "it" compared to VC and SA(which imo is one of the best games ever). Multiplayer was fun as shit though. It came out my freshman yr of highschool and back then we all played Xbox and it was fun to dick around in free roam. It was far from "shit" but it didn't deserve a 10 for sure.

I just got to disc 2 of Max Payne and its been alright so far. The bullet-time feature is badass and i like how you can just waste people. The game actually tells it like a story which makes you get into it imho. It does seem very repititive though and I wouldn't go back and replay it. Haven't tried out multiplayer yet, prob gonna play it later after work before the rental is due.

Reck
05-19-2012, 12:11 PM
Tbh GTA4 didn't "suck" but it did get old after a while. Single player just didn't have "it" compared to VC and SA(which imo is one of the best games ever). Multiplayer was fun as shit though. It came out my freshman yr of highschool and back then we all played Xbox and it was fun to dick around in free roam. It was far from "shit" but it didn't deserve a 10 for sure.

I just got to disc 2 of Max Payne and its been alright so far. The bullet-time feature is badass and i like how you can just waste people. The game actually tells it like a story which makes you get into it imho. It does seem very repititive though and I wouldn't go back and replay it. Haven't tried out multiplayer yet, prob gonna play it later after work before the rental is due.

All key points. GTA4 thrives on those while MP3 lacks.

ElNono
05-19-2012, 12:54 PM
Just finished the game, it was hard as fuck. But it wasn't anything special, I'd say it's better than GTA4 and LA Noire. The cover system was fucked and only one point in the game did i feel like a badass. Alot of that had to do with the weak soundtrack.

Agreed. Their last quality product was Red Dead...

ElNono
05-19-2012, 12:56 PM
:lmao

All the game reviewers gave this game a 9+. Most anticipiated game ever, got universal acclaim and its the highest rated game of all time.

This game is so awesome it spun several mini episodes and DLCs and its servers are still open to this day.

GTA4 has sold over 20 million copies and has racked up over 500 million dollars.

By everyone, do you mean just you?

I'm sorry but the millions upon millions of people who bought and played this game didn't think this game sucked. :lol

You have no idea what you are talking about do you? You are either an idiot or have not played the game at all.

I have not met anyone that hasn't liked this game.

And now that that's out of the way, what makes Max Payne 3 better than this game? rofl

MP3 doesn't even come close to GTA4.

GTA4 has a better, longer story
Better online play
Has infinite replay value

Your comparison and blatant idiocy has failed you miserably.

GTA4 was horrible.... pointed out here a gazillion times by a lot of other posters...

ElNono
05-19-2012, 01:00 PM
I liked the favela part of MP3... it just sucks it wasn't a sandbox game...

MavDynasty
05-19-2012, 01:05 PM
Here's hoping to a badass GTA 5. The trailer looks sick, multiplayer will be great with planes again.

RDR was amazing both single player and online but i felt it was too short/not as much to do. LA Noire was fun but it got repititive and I never finished it because of that.

Reck
05-19-2012, 01:35 PM
Agreed. Their last quality product was Red Dead...

A handful of ST dumb bells saying a game its horrible doesn't make that game bad.

Again, I challenge anyone here to bring forth prove this game sucks on major levels that constitute an aproved suckage ratings.

Millions of people cant collectively be wrong about a single subject or thing. Its imposibble. :lol

ElNono
05-19-2012, 02:17 PM
A handful of ST dumb bells saying a game its horrible doesn't make that game bad.

It isn't just a "handful of ST dumb bells"... Head to Metacritic and look for Grand Theft Auto... IV has the highest "review" score of all the games of the series, and the lowest "user score" of them all...

Game was ultra hyped, but for the gamers that actually played the series, it was the weakest of them all.

Reck
05-19-2012, 02:28 PM
It isn't just a "handful of ST dumb bells"... Head to Metacritic and look for Grand Theft Auto... IV has the highest "review" score of all the games of the series, and the lowest "user score" of them all...

Game was ultra hyped, but for the gamers that actually played the series, it was the weakest of them all.

You'll always have the typical haters out there.

You can say you didn't like the game for personal reasons but you cant bash the game for being bad because YOU didn't like it.

If this game was truely trash then it wouldn't have been this popular and people who not still be buying it.

There was high demand for this game. Denying this game its that good its like denying the sky is not blue. Know what I'm saying..

ElNono
05-19-2012, 02:33 PM
You'll always have the typical haters out there.

Looks like a lot of haters to me.


You can say you didn't like the game for personal reasons but you cant bash the game for being bad because YOU didn't like it.

Why not? Plus it isn't just me...


If this game was truely trash then it wouldn't have been this popular and people who not still be buying it.

I didn't call it trash. I called it horrible. And I played it. It was the first GTA that I couldn't play all the way through. It got boring about halfway through and I picked it up about 3 months later to finish it.

They set the bar high with their previous games. This one was a step back.

Reck
05-19-2012, 02:45 PM
A few hundred haters do not overtake worldwide success this game had. Sorry.

Again, this game its not boring. You saying this game was boring its just your personal opinion.

Give me solid reasons why this game was horrible.

ElNono
05-19-2012, 03:12 PM
A few hundred haters do not overtake worldwide success this game had. Sorry.

Hundred? You didn't go to Metacritic, did you?


Give me solid reasons why this game was horrible.

Already did. Weakest game of the series. Apparently it isn't just me that thought so too.

Reck
05-19-2012, 03:29 PM
Hundred? You didn't go to Metacritic, did you?



Already did. Weakest game of the series. Apparently it isn't just me that thought so too.

Really? That's all you have?

This game its horrible because its the weakest of teh series? That's also wrong. :lol

Clearly you haven't play the earlier GTA games which are top down. :lol

People who dont know what they're talking about. :lmao

ElNono
05-19-2012, 03:51 PM
Really? That's all you have?

What do you have? All you've said so far is that we should trust you it's good "cos it sold well". crofl


This game its horrible because its the weakest of teh series? That's also wrong. :lol

Clearly you haven't play the earlier GTA games which are top down. :lol

I played every single one of them... including the ones made by DMA design with the top-down view... while the graphics were horrible even for 90's standards, the games were absolutely great...

tbh, GTA IV isn't worth this much discussion to begin with...

Reck
05-19-2012, 03:57 PM
What do you have? All you've said so far is that we should trust you it's good "cos it sold well". crofl



I played every single one of them... including the ones made by DMA design with the top-down view... while the graphics were horrible even for 90's standards, the games were absolutely great...

tbh, GTA IV isn't worth this much discussion to begin with...

Its not what I have its what it is.

GTA4 its a great game. You shouldn't trust what I say, its a well known fact GTA4 its a good game which was my main point to begin with.

Far from being shitty as trainwreck pointed out. And to say Max Payne its a better game.. :lmao

ElNono
05-19-2012, 04:00 PM
Its not what I have its what it is.

lol taking your word for it :lmao


GTA4 its a great game. You shouldn't trust what I say, its a well known fact GTA4 its a good game which was my main point to begin with.

Users don't agree with you. It's your problem, not mine.


Far from being shitty as trainwreck pointed out. And to say Max Payne its a better game.. :lmao

Max Payne sucked less. It's my opinion. You don't have to agree with it.

BTW, in Metacritic right now, MP3 has a higher user rating than GTA IV :lmao

Reck
05-19-2012, 04:15 PM
lol taking your word for it :lmao



Users don't agree with you. It's your problem, not mine.



Max Payne sucked less. It's my opinion. You don't have to agree with it.

BTW, in Metacritic right now, MP3 has a higher user rating than GTA IV :lmao

This is called denial. :lol:lol

ElNono
05-19-2012, 04:20 PM
This is called denial. :lol:lol


Really? That's all you have? :lmao

:lol

Reck
05-19-2012, 04:43 PM
Rofl

http://i2.lulzimg.com/147c1dc80e.jpg

:lol Universal acclaim
:lol Highest reviewed game of all time
:lol 22 million copies sold
:lol 500+ million dollars made
:lol Still selling like hot pancakes
:lol Broke the guiness world of records for selling the most copies in a 24 hour span
:lol IGN game of the year
:lol Gametrailers game of the year
:lol Gamespy game of the year
:lol Kotaku's game of the year
:lol Spike TV game of the year (chosen by the people)
:lol Electronics Gaming Monthy game of the year
:lol The New York Times game of the year
:lol Los Angeles Times game of the year

Yep, this is just taking my words for it. ROFL!!!!

Me=speaking for the whole world. :lol :lol :lol

resistanze
05-19-2012, 05:05 PM
lol, you can like GTA 4, but never used copies sold as a metric

Unless you believe Modern Warfare 2 and 3 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GTA 4

ElNono
05-19-2012, 05:30 PM
Rofl

http://i2.lulzimg.com/147c1dc80e.jpg

:lol Universal acclaim
:lol Highest reviewed game of all time
:lol 22 million copies sold
:lol 500+ million dollars made
:lol Still selling like hot pancakes
:lol Broke the guiness world of records for selling the most copies in a 24 hour span
:lol IGN game of the year
:lol Gametrailers game of the year
:lol Gamespy game of the year
:lol Kotaku's game of the year
:lol Spike TV game of the year (chosen by the people)
:lol Electronics Gaming Monthy game of the year
:lol The New York Times game of the year
:lol Los Angeles Times game of the year

Yep, this is just taking my words for it. ROFL!!!!

Me=speaking for the whole world. :lol :lol :lol

lol paid reviews
lol actual users don't agree
lol it's great "because it is" :lmao

ElNono
05-19-2012, 05:32 PM
lol, you can like GTA 4, but never used copies sold as a metric

Unless you believe Modern Warfare 2 and 3 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GTA 4

exactly... that's why Metacritic is the go to site for evaluating games... you can compare mag reviews with actual user scores... when they're both high, it's a good game... when reviews are high but user is lackluster, you know it's hype.

Reck
05-19-2012, 05:44 PM
lol paid reviews
lol actual users don't agree
lol it's great "because it is" :lmao

When 2 out of 10 people are against something, who do you think things will go in favor for? :lol

Also I'm curious to know who paid the 40+ professional critics to say all these nice things about a game that's clearly badly constructed. :lol

ElNono
05-19-2012, 05:51 PM
When 2 out of 10 people are against something, who do you think things will go in favor for? :lol

Also I'm curious to know who paid the 40+ professional critics to say all these nice things about a game that's clearly badly constructed. :lol

1 out of 10 people > 2 out of 10 people...

lol martketing doesn't matter... is that the angle you're going with now? :lol

Muser
05-19-2012, 05:52 PM
Shadowflames do you like Backstreet Boys? They've sold over 130 millions records..130 million people can't be wrong.

Muser
05-19-2012, 05:56 PM
And GTA4 wasn't shitty, but it was far from the huge scores that people gave it.

Driving was awful
Cover system was shitty
A lot of the missions were shitty, felt like playing WoW at times.
Having your fat fucking cousin ring you every 5 minutes was annoying as hell

Reck
05-19-2012, 05:57 PM
Also, Nono I took a look at that site MetaCritic...

And found that it has favorable reviews from both pros and users.

http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-3/grand-theft-auto-iv

948 positive reviews to 226 negative.

The positive user reviews vastly outweights the bad convincingly.

Also took a peak at the user reviews of Max Payne 3..

http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-360/max-payne-3

117 positive reviews to 28 bad ones.

GTA4 has more favorable user review then Max Payne 3 by a margin of about 800 or so up until now.

resistanze
05-19-2012, 05:58 PM
When 2 out of 10 people are against something, who do you think things will go in favor for? :lol

Also I'm curious to know who paid the 40+ professional critics to say all these nice things about a game that's clearly badly constructed. :lol
Personally, I didn't think GTA4 was horrible, but it wasn't amazing either. Lackluster story, no real innovation in gameplay except next-gen graphics, hell the even removed features (flying planes, no tank???)

And the problems with the video game 'review' industry are well documented. Most major review sites get their advertising revenue from the games they are reviewing. The Jeff Gertsmann controversy at Gamespot.com regarding Kane and Lynch 2 is infamous now. Video game reviewers also can't play games in depth as consumers would as they're more interested in releasing 0-day reviews.

Hundred of thousands of people have come out about Mass Effect 3 and the terrible ending, to the point that BioWare is actually releasing free DLC to try to correct this. Why then did all the video game sites say the ending was fantastic? :lol

Muser
05-19-2012, 05:59 PM
Saints Row 2 was much better than GTA 4 tbh.

Reck
05-19-2012, 06:04 PM
Personally, I didn't think GTA4 was horrible, but it wasn't amazing either. Lackluster story, no real innovation in gameplay except next-gen graphics, hell the even removed features (flying planes, no tank???)

And the problems with the video game 'review' industry are well documented. Most major review sites get their advertising revenue from the games they are reviewing. The Jeff Gertsmann controversy at Gamespot.com regarding Kane and Lynch 2 is infamous now. Video game reviewers also can't play games in depth as consumers would as they're more interested in releasing 0-day reviews.

Hundred of thousands of people have come out about Mass Effect 3 and the terrible ending, to the point that BioWare is actually releasing free DLC to try to correct this. Why then did all the video game sites say the ending was fantastic? :lol

The ending or the story line its just one aspect of the game though.

I'm talking overall here.

I'm not even saying GTA4 is the bestest game ever. I'm just saying its not "shitty", "garbage" or "horrible." To say that its dumb.

You can obviously say you didn't like the game but to generally say its bad? C'mon........

resistanze
05-19-2012, 06:10 PM
The ending or the story line its just one aspect of the game though.

I'm talking overall here.

I'm not even saying GTA4 is the bestest game ever. I'm just saying its not "shitty", "garbage" or "horrible." To say that its dumb.

You can obviously say you didn't like the game but to generally say its bad? C'mon........

I was talking overall too. The biggest jump in the game for GTA4 was being the first GTA on a next-gen cosnsole. There was nothing really new.

And according to Professional Reviewers, the game is 98/100, which basically IS saying it's the best game ever. The majority of user reviews you pointed to ARE positive, but the general consensus is NOWHERE near 98/100. Saying it's a terrible game can't be any different from giving the game the highest score in history...

Reck
05-19-2012, 06:10 PM
Oh and I just realized that Max Payne has a better user review on the 360.

I based that user ratings above via the PS3.

Turns out the 360 version has alot more better user reviews and about the same negative reviews oon both systems.

ElNono
05-19-2012, 06:11 PM
Also, Nono I took a look at that site MetaCritic...

And found that it has favorable reviews from both pros and users.

http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-3/grand-theft-auto-iv

948 positive reviews to 226 negative.

The positive user reviews vastly outweights the bad convincingly.

Also took a peak at the user reviews of Max Payne 3..

http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-360/max-payne-3

117 positive reviews to 28 bad ones.

GTA4 has more favorable user review then Max Payne 3 by a margin of about 800 or so up until now.

Well, obviously, MP3 just came out... it will take a while to get reviews...

Now compare that GTA IV user score with:

San Andreas:
http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-2/grand-theft-auto-san-andreas

Vice City:
http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-2/grand-theft-auto-vice-city

GTA III:
http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-2/grand-theft-auto-iii

GTA II:
http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation/grand-theft-auto-2


tbh, as I said, they really raised the bar with the previous games, which is the reason GTA IV sold so well...

ElNono
05-19-2012, 06:14 PM
Personally, I didn't think GTA4 was horrible, but it wasn't amazing either. Lackluster story, no real innovation in gameplay except next-gen graphics, hell the even removed features (flying planes, no tank???)

Actually, by the time it came out, GTA IV had fairly shitty graphics, (at least the console version)... And obviously looking at Red Dead, you know they could've done better...

tbh, I don't hate Rockstar or anything, I'm actually waiting for GTA V...

resistanze
05-19-2012, 06:16 PM
Actually, by the time it came out, GTA IV had fairly shitty graphics, (at least the console version)... And obviously looking at Red Dead, you know they could've done better...

tbh, I don't hate Rockstar or anything, I'm actually waiting for GTA V...

Oh I only meant it was the first GTA to be for next-gen, not that the graphics were amazing for next-gen.

Reck
05-19-2012, 06:16 PM
I was talking overall too. The biggest jump in the game for GTA4 was being the first GTA on a next-gen cosnsole. There was nothing really new.

And according to Professional Reviewers, the game is 98/100, which basically IS saying it's the best game ever. The majority of user reviews you pointed to ARE positive, but the general consensus is NOWHERE near 98/100. Saying it's a terrible game can't be any different from giving the game the highest score in history...

I dont see it as best game ever because honestly, its hard to determine that.

I see it as best game on the console up to that point and time. Honestly I think God of War 3 its the best game the PS3 has.

While the general consensus is nowhere near that high, it is also nowhere near the bottom either.

My gripe its not about game being the ultimate sexy beast, personally I'm arguing that this game is not bad. Can be neutral but when talking about it in general you cant deem this game shitty or horrible or whatever you want to tag this game as.

Reck
05-19-2012, 06:19 PM
Well, obviously, MP3 just came out... it will take a while to get reviews...

Now compare that GTA IV user score with:

San Andreas:
http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-2/grand-theft-auto-san-andreas

Vice City:
http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-2/grand-theft-auto-vice-city

GTA III:
http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-2/grand-theft-auto-iii

GTA II:
http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation/grand-theft-auto-2


tbh, as I said, they really raised the bar with the previous games, which is the reason GTA IV sold so well...

I already said GTA3 was the best imo. San Andreas was my second favorite.

Like I said, not arguing the fact GTA4 its a better game then its predecessors, just that the game its nowhere as bad as you are making it out to be.

ElNono
05-19-2012, 06:26 PM
I already said GTA3 was the best imo. San Andreas was my second favorite.

Like I said, not arguing the fact GTA4 its a better game then its predecessors, just that the game its nowhere as bad as you are making it out to be.

:sleep

It was pretty bad IMO... especially compared to it's predecessors... already pointed out here by other posters too... weak story, removed stuff from the older games, average graphics, etc...

lol 98/100

Reck
05-19-2012, 06:28 PM
:sleep

It was pretty bad IMO... especially compared to it's predecessors... already pointed out here by other posters too... weak story, removed stuff from the older games, average graphics, etc...

lol 98/100

:lol Cant admit this game its not really bad. Even when presented with shitload of evidence.

Next topic..

Reck
05-19-2012, 06:29 PM
I still love ya though Nono. No hard feelings.

ElNono
05-19-2012, 07:02 PM
:lol Cant admit this game its not really bad. Even when presented with shitload of evidence.

:lol paid reviews = evidence

You need to take a hint from the rest of the posters here. As a matter of fact, you're pretty much all alone in that side of the coin, not sure if you noticed :lol


I still love ya though Nono. No hard feelings.

It's all good, no hard feelings. Like I said, I don't think GTA IV deserves this much discussion, tbh

Venti Quattro
05-19-2012, 07:14 PM
I'd still buy and play Max Payne 3.

Reck
05-19-2012, 07:26 PM
:lol paid reviews = evidence

You need to take a hint from the rest of the posters here. As a matter of fact, you're pretty much all alone in that side of the coin, not sure if you noticed :lol



It's all good, no hard feelings. Like I said, I don't think GTA IV deserves this much discussion, tbh

Oh my my..

You bring up the metacritic user reviews and it has failed you at the end.

It clearly shows that the game has by far more favorable reviews than bad ones. They are also paid for their take? :lol

And thinking a handful of members here saying this game sucks its an actual good sample size. :lol

Can you find that thread about GTA4 where members here said this game was garbage btw? You keep talking about how members here thought the game was shit yet I see no links to that thread.

And even if that was the case, I just used your only measuring stick against you(metacritic) to show you that the game garnered more positive reviews then bad by actual gamers.

Cant used the paid review excuse. :lol

ElNono
05-19-2012, 07:45 PM
Oh my my..

You bring up the metacritic user reviews and it has failed you at the end.

lol, how did it fail me? I pointed out GTA IV had the "higher" paid reviews, yet the lower "user" score of all the comparable games in the series, which was spot on...


It clearly shows that the game has by far more favorable reviews than bad ones. They are also paid for their take? :lol

We have a different reading... I compared to what those guys had to say about the other games in the series (which, BTW, didn't get anywhere near as good paid reviews as GTA IV) and they didn't think it was THAT good at all either... at least nowhere near as good as the other ones.


And thinking a handful of members here saying this game sucks its an actual good sample size. :lol

That would make sense if it would be just the members here...


Can you find that thread about GTA4 where members here said this game was garbage btw? You keep talking about how members here thought the game was shit yet I see no links to that thread.

I can find a thread where you're all alone defending GTA4's pride, where multiple posters come around telling you the game wasn't that good. You need a link?


And even if that was the case, I just used your only measuring stick against you(metacritic) to show you that the game garnered more positive reviews then bad by actual gamers.

Well, it wouldn't be 7.5 if it didn't have more positive reviews than negative. Otherwise it would've been rated < 5.0... That's simple math.

That said, 10% more people thought the previous iterations were better, that's why those hover on the 8.5 score... my point, exactly.

Reck
05-19-2012, 07:54 PM
Did some digging of my own and found...


I just hope they scrapped whatever they did for IV, and went back to the drawing board.
That was an awful game.



Tbh driving in it was fun. The game wasn't all that bad besides the shitty mission imho


gta 4 was different but still fun. i guess gta 4 was mad men and san andreas was breaking bad. just more action. but that doesnt mean the previous wasnt good. i love that its in la again. they got the whole la thing perfect last time and they went all out with additions. they even almost added multiplayer but they ran out of time and disc space.



GTA4 is great


it wasn't bad, just overrated, not worth the buy though


This game is really growing on me as I get into it. The first 10% or so is boring as fuck, but it gets way better once you start unlocking islands. The shows and activities are a nice addition, and the myspace is pretty funny.

rofl, I honestly stopped reading all that because by page 5 it became very apparent members here didn't think the game sucked. :lol




LOL even homeboy trainwreck agreed this game wasn't bad despite what he said on this very same thread. :lmao

Ah found the gem..

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92584&highlight=grand+theft+auto&page=4

The jizzfest was too much to qoute one by one so just start reading from page 4. :lol

I didn't see many members besides Iron Mexican, yourself and Baseline Bum dissing this game.

So that's that. End of thread.

ElNono
05-19-2012, 08:26 PM
GTA IV was lazy as shit and uninspired. At best it was no better than a port onto the new generation of consoles with a shitty main character.

:lol Niko


GTA 4 was a freshly polished turd. The missions were terrible and the city was boring with the exception of the comedy club with Ricky Gervais. How do you go from Tommy Vercetti and Carl Johnson to faggot Niko also? Even Fido was a much better character. What the fuck are you going to preach for in a game based on stealing cars, robbing motherfuckers, and shooting random people on the street?

GTA 3, Vice City, and San Andreas are still fun to play 7-12 years later, but even playing an hour of IV the first week after I bought the game was difficult. The gang wars in San Andreas are still some of the most fun ever put out in a game.


:lol Niko
:lol I came to America for a better life
:cry I don't like committing crimes
:lol I'll do them anyways


:lol Niko's girlfriend won't see him because he's a gangster
:lol Girlfriend shot dead in Niko's arms
:cry Niko forever alone


:lol Cry Havoc arguing with all of us that IV was good.


Looks awesome graphically, but then so did the last one. Since their track record in this series (not counting handhelds) is 3 incredible games vs 1 that completely sucked, maybe I have reason to hope this one will be a huge improvement.


4 was a complete abortion. The best part was dicking around in free roam mode online.

You forgot resistanze, tbh...

And that thread @ The Club is from when the game just came out... :lol

Everyone was jizzing when it came out (me included). The game just didn't deliver.

lol @ these posts at the end of that thread:


It was fun most of the time, but allot of the missions feel the same as all other GTA games just in a new city and it got kind of tiring towards then end. I just wanted it to be over.


After a couple of weeks of playing this, I have to say I'm pretty disappointed. IGN is full of shit giving this a perfect score when lower rated games such as Bioshock and COD4 are far superior.

This game just doesn't have the great characters and voice acting that Vice City and San Andreas had. The soundtrack is far weaker than either of those, also. It gets repetitive way faster than Vice City or San Andreas did, and the city is nowhere near as interesting as Vice City or Los Santos/San Fierro/Las Venturas. This is the most overhyped game I have ever seen.


I couldn't agree more, that really sums it up for me...


All in all, if you've played GTA before, it doesn't feel as fresh as it once did.

:lol

ElNono
05-19-2012, 08:30 PM
http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=148551

:lmao

leemajors
05-19-2012, 08:36 PM
GTA 3 was my fave, even though I never really played it. The soundtracks were the best part, especially including Scientist Rids the World of the Evil Curse of the Vampires in nearly its entirety on K-Jah. Of course them finding out Scientist never received any benefit and Rockstar paying him out of pocket when they found out Greensleeves never paid him royalties made it even better.

Reck
05-19-2012, 08:40 PM
http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=148551

:lmao

Your point?

I already pointed out the ones dissing the game, Iron Mexican, Baseline Bum you and a couple of others. Hardly the entire board. :rollin

And most of them were comparing 4 to the others in the series which its not what I'm doing at all. :lol

ElNono
05-19-2012, 09:05 PM
I already pointed out the ones dissing the game, Iron Mexican, Baseline Bum you and a couple of others. Hardly the entire board. :rollin

"couple of others" = 80% of the posters in that thread :lol

:sleep

ElNono
05-19-2012, 09:07 PM
tbh, I'd love to entertain you more, but TCGRFS just came out... so time to get busy...

Reck
05-19-2012, 09:25 PM
"couple of others" = 80% of the posters in that thread :lol

:sleep

Oh that's highly unlikely since that thread its two pages long and only a 15 different posters in.

1 (OP) its indifferent complaining about the difficulty of the game etc
9 posters that did not even brought up the game as being good or bad
3 posters who hated it
2 poster said it was good

1% of the people who posted on that thread whined about controls
2% of posters said it was a good game
3% hated it

That's what, 5% so far..

90% of the posters were indifferent.


100% total


Once again you bring up something that bites you in the end.

And just answer me this Nono,

Despite your dislike for this game, what is the main consensus about this game?

ElNono
05-19-2012, 10:13 PM
And just answer me this Nono,

Despite your dislike for this game, what is the main consensus about this game?

Nowhere near as good as the previous ones... consensus

Reck
05-19-2012, 10:21 PM
Nowhere near as good as the previous ones... consensus

That wasn't the question. Dont go off base Nono. No one is talking about GTA4 vs the other in the series.

Its about how GTA4 was recieved generally. I'll even discount the professional critics. You can use the user reviews and how they rated this game.

Also you're gonna need a bigger sample size than the obvious haters on here.

Simple question really.

ElNono
05-19-2012, 10:35 PM
That wasn't the question. Dont go off base Nono. No one is talking about GTA4 vs the other in the series.

Its about how GTA4 was recieved generally. I'll even discount the professional critics. You can use the user reviews and how they rated this game.

Also you're gonna need a bigger sample size than the obvious haters on here.

Simple question really.

consensus

MavDynasty
05-19-2012, 10:40 PM
I was Kyle Orton in that quote. I already stated my opinion of 4 in this thread. Definitely not amazing nor terrible. I would rate it higher than max Payne and LA noire though.

Reck
05-19-2012, 10:43 PM
@Nono: Alright then, at least you conceded the fact GTA4 is looked upon with a positive outlook overall.

Now we can move on to better discussions..

MavDynasty
05-19-2012, 10:46 PM
Yeah overall, it was a good game imo. And I thought the driving was fun as hell because it was realistic and when you pulle a drift, it felt rewarding. Sure I miss the cartoon driving of VC and SA but the driving in 4 was good as well, just in a different way.

They really need to add back planes/tanks/vortex/bicycle etc. hope 5 is like SA in terms of customization(tats, hair, clothes, car mods) and stupid fun.

ElNono
05-19-2012, 10:51 PM
They also need better side-shit... your cousin calling you to play pool or whatever the fuck every 10 mins got old quick...

Trainwreck2100
05-19-2012, 11:00 PM
They also need better side-shit... your cousin calling you to play pool or whatever the fuck every 10 mins got old quick...

They also need a main character who isn't a giant vagina

Jt.ONE
05-23-2012, 07:43 PM
http://www.strategyinformer.com/news/18201/pc-version-of-max-payne-3-to-come-on-4-dvds

DarkReign
05-25-2012, 10:59 AM
http://www.strategyinformer.com/news/18201/pc-version-of-max-payne-3-to-come-on-4-dvds

Holy Christ!

My SSD is only 256GB, man. That sucks.