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ginobili fan
05-11-2012, 04:00 AM
T Mac man....
Some medias could have considered HIM as the next MJ,
He was THE superstar, he's born is 79 Manu in 77,
today TMac is a scrub, while Manu is still a legend.

Why ???

szkorhetz
05-11-2012, 04:13 AM
Injuries.
If that would not happened, he would still be better than Kobe or LBJ.

Leetonidas
05-11-2012, 07:38 AM
Injuries/laziness

elemento
05-11-2012, 08:40 AM
1st round exit AGAIN :lmao

sananspursfan21
05-11-2012, 08:47 AM
Wrong forum?

100%duncan
05-11-2012, 09:06 AM
Injuries.
If that would not happened, he would still be better than Kobe or LBJ.

uhh, NO.

spurs_fan_in_exile
05-11-2012, 09:21 AM
I think he really let that "never got out of the first round" thing get into his head, there's definitely some mental softness there. For that reason I think saying he could have been Kobe is a stretch. The talent was there, the heart was not. He couldn't stay healthy either, some of that is just bad luck, some of it was inevitable. Unlike Ginobili, who had a team around him that could afford give him some nights off every now and then, T-Mac played with some horrible supporting casts in his prime. Hill was never healthy in Orlando, and then his last good years with the Rockets he was paired with few decent scoring options other than Yao, who took some time to adjust to the NBA and then never reached his own potential due to injuries. I think if you put Manu in that same situation he probably would have played himself out of the league as well with his style of play, going 100 mph every game for 35+ minutes trying to lift a crappy team.

There's cautionary parallels to the Big 3 throughout the league. Without Pop and the other two counterparts, Duncan could have gone the way of countless bigs whose knees gave out before their time. Parker could have gotten busted up and broken down by 30 like AI did.

I've said it a few times, but this year has probably shown it with alarming clarity thanks to the pace the lock out set, the overall health of a team is too often written off as a matter purely of good or bad luck when the playoffs roll around. It's certainly a part, sometimes even the biggest part. Ankles get rolled on routine rebounds, guys twist a knee driving to the hoop, shit happens. But it's also a good indicator of a the quality of an organization from top to bottom. There's a thread in the NBA forum with an interview that Greg Oden did (http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=196751). It's a good read, but there's also some links in there to stories detailing some pretty startling accusations as to how badly the Blazers organization mismanaged the recoveries of Oden and Roy. It also mentions how great the Suns medical staff has been with guys like Grant Hill, etc.

But that's only one part of it. Can your GM put together the depth to keep from overworking your stars? Can your coach manage the minutes and egos of competitors who want to be on the floor? It's all a big fucking balancing act.

CubanMustGo
05-11-2012, 10:14 AM
Why ginobili fan threads suck so much?

Brutalis
05-11-2012, 10:22 AM
What a stupid fucking question, seriously GG OP. Way to make me feel smart today.

Why don't you go through half of the injuries he has and see if you can even run the damn floor.

Some people are just flat out fucking stupid. Wow.

HarlemHo 37
05-11-2012, 10:23 AM
T Mac man....
Some medias could have considered HIM as the next MJ,
He was THE superstar, he's born is 79 Manu in 77,
today TMac is a scrub, while Manu is still a legend.

Why ???

The next MJ? Whoever said that was on crack.

Brutalis
05-11-2012, 10:24 AM
uhh, NO.

Uhh, YEAH. Look at his career stats. Did you ever actually watch him and the Rockets play? McGrady was a special talent that injuries got the best of.

Budkin
05-11-2012, 11:08 AM
Exact same story as Penny Hardaway. Ironically both wore #1 for the Magic.

E-RockWill
05-11-2012, 12:35 PM
Why ginobili fan threads suck so much?


Word...

Cant_Be_Faded
05-11-2012, 12:40 PM
The next MJ? Whoever said that was on crack.

Back in '00 and '01, espn would have constant polls asking who was the next MJ, and would have a player tracker showing current stats for the contenders.

The contenders were Kobe, AI, Carter, T-Mac, Allen and Pierce

MavDynasty
05-11-2012, 01:04 PM
03 Tmac was one of the best players in NBA history tbh. If he could've stayed at that level his entire career, he'd definitely be better than Kobe

Obstructed_View
05-11-2012, 01:10 PM
03 Tmac was one of the best players in NBA history tbh. If he could've stayed at that level his entire career, he'd definitely be better than Kobe

This. Back problems killed his career.

Cant_Be_Faded
05-11-2012, 02:18 PM
Tmac used to play defense better than Kobe too

spurs_fan_in_exile
05-11-2012, 02:28 PM
Tmac used to play defense better than Kobe too

Yeah, that was one of the more frustrating things that kept me from being able to cheer for the guy. He could be a hell of a defender when he wanted to be. Not just the gambling on passing lanes BS that everyone seems to love Lebron for, but fundamental, hand in the face, moving feet, man in front of you defense. Just seemed like he didn't care to do it too often.

DAF86
05-11-2012, 04:24 PM
Uhh, YEAH. Look at his career stats. Did you ever actually watch him and the Rockets play? McGrady was a special talent that injuries got the best of.

He never shot more than 43% from the field while beign with the Rockets. McGrady is in the same group with guys like Iverson, Melo, Stoudamire, Carter, etc. Supertalented guys that never really understood the game or how to make teammates better.

Floyd Pacquiao
05-11-2012, 05:00 PM
he's shot to shit

therealtruth
05-11-2012, 06:38 PM
Combination of injuries and lack of dedication. If TMac had Kobe's dedication he would easily be better than him.

therealtruth
05-11-2012, 06:40 PM
He never shot more than 43% from the field while beign with the Rockets. McGrady is in the same group with guys like Iverson, Melo, Stoudamire, Carter, etc. Supertalented guys that never really understood the game or how to make teammates better.

Are you kidding. T-Mac was one of the best passing guards.

Dr. John R. Brinkley
05-11-2012, 06:48 PM
Different mental problems. Sociopath vs. depression.

DAF86
05-11-2012, 07:33 PM
Are you kidding. T-Mac was one of the best passing guards.

And he was one of the guards that took more retarded shots also. He just never played winning basketball.

mkurts
05-11-2012, 07:36 PM
Why ginobili fan threads suck so much?

+1

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