As Election Nears...GOP voter purge surgess

[Nbadan]

So much for wingnuts against fraudulent elections....where is James O"Keefe on this?

Meet Bill: The 91-Year-Old Decorated WWII Veteran Targeted By Florida Governor Rick Scott’s Voter Purge
By Judd Legum - ThinkProgress
May 29, 2012 at 11:24 am


http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/internicola_CROP.jpg
91-year-old WWII veteran Bill Internicola


<snip>

Bill Internicola is a 91-year-old, Brooklyn-born, World War II veteran. He fought in the Battle of the Buldge and received the Bronze Star for bravery. He’s voted in Florida for 14 years and never had a problem.

Three weeks ago, Bill received a letter from Broward County Florida stating “You are not a U.S. Citizen” and therefore, ineligible to vote. He was given the option of requesting “a hearing with the Supervisor of Elections, for the purpose of providing proof that you are a United States citizens” or forfeit his right to vote.

This decorated World War II veteran is just one of hundreds of fully eligible U.S. citizens being targeted by Governor Scott’s massive voter purge just prior to this year’s election, according to data obtained from Florida election officials by ThinkProgress. The purge list, according to an analysis by the Miami Herald, targets mostly Democrats and Hispanics.

Voting rights groups in Florida have asked the Justice Department to investigate, alleging that Scott’s voter purge violates federal law.

<snip>

Link: http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2012/05/29/491430/meet-bill-the-91-year-old-decorated-wwii-veteran-targeted-by-florida-governor-rick-scotts-voter-purge/

Many of us knew there would be repercussions if people weren't held accountable for election "problems" in 2000. Republicans figure "what the hell", we can do whatever we want, because NOBODY will do anything.

People will commit torture in our name and no one will go to jail. Wall Street will destroy the economy and no will go to jail. People will blatantly rig elections and no one will go to jail. They are getting bolder and bolder, because we live in a world where there is no accountability.

[Nbadan]

Right now - this guy - Republican Governor Rick Scott is priming his state for a Mitt Romney victory in November. And he's doing it the same way Republicans have always done it - and that's by kicking Democratic voters off the voting rolls. Last year - Scott told his Secretary of State Ken Browning to begin compiling a list of voters in the state who aren't legal citizens - so they can have their voting rights revoked. Browning did what he asked - and came up with 182,000 Floridians who are possible non-citizens. But Browning himself admitted that the list was rife with errors - and shouldn't be taken public - or depended on to kick voters off the rolls. Governor Scott didn't care though - and after Browning resigned in February - Scott went ahead doing exactly that - and already more than 2,500 voters have been purged. According to documents obtained by the Center for American Progress - of the more than 1,600 Floridians flagged by Scott in Miami-Dade County - over 350 were wrongfully identified - and are actually U.S. citizens who had to provide proof of citizenship to have their voting rights restored. Most of the rest of the 1,600 people flagged in the country haven't responded yet - and many likely never will - even if they are citizens - because they have other things to worry about like getting to work, driving their kids to school, and feeding their family - rather than trying to jump over another hurdle to vote. And that's exactly what the Governor wants - fewer people voting. But not just fewer people voting - fewer Democrats voting \\

A study by the Miami Herald found that Scott's voter purge is targeted at minority and Democratic voters. As the newspaper reports, “Hispanic, Democratic and independent-minded voters are the most likely to be targeted in a state hunt to remove thousands of noncitizens from Florida’s voting rolls...Whites and Republicans are disproportionately the least-likely to face the threat of removal.” Florida is guaranteed to be a battleground state this year - and kicking a few thousand Democrats off the rolls could flip the election in Romney's favor. Heck - it worked in 2000 for George W. Bush - when his brother Jeb denied 7,000 mostly African American Floridians their right to vote in an error-ridden bid to remove tens of thousands of convicted felons from the voting rolls. That was just what the Bush's needed to prevent a sizeable Gore win in Florida - and petition the Supreme Court to appoint Bush as the President of the United States in lieu of Florida actually electing him. As the New York Times reported on November 12th, 2001 after it and a consortium of news organizations conducted their own recount in Florida - Gore actually won the state. The Times wrote: "If all the ballots had been reviewed under any of seven single standards, and combined with the results of an examination of overvotes, Mr. Gore would have won."

You would think the revelation that the wrong man is sitting in the White House would be front-page news. Instead - it was buried in the 17th paragraph in a story misleadingly titled, "Study of Disputed Florida Ballots Finds Justices Did Not Cast the Deciding Vote." The reason why it was buried? Because 9/11 had just happened - and the Times didn't want to diminish Bush's claim to the White House in the middle of a national crisis. So - the stolen election stood. And now here we are again - 12 years later - with Republicans trying to steal Florida for a second time. Governor Rick Scott knows his job - and that's too deliver the Sunshine State for Mitt Romney - just like Jeb Bush did for his brother in 2000. And - as the Miami Herlad reports - he's doing it by blatantly kicking Democrats off the rolls. If eight years of an illegitimate Bush Presidency should have taught us one thing - especially in Florida - it's how precious our votes are - and how drastically the nation could transform if just a few hundred people in one state are denied their voice in our democracy. Let's see to it that it doesn't happen again. If you're in Florida then you need to get out in the streets and get active against this war on voters. Because if you don't - then they'll steal it again.

[Wild Cobra]

Some kind of action needs to be done. We all know shit like this will happen. I wish you would take a balanced approach and link something as to the reason why his name is in question. I'll bet there is an understandable reason his name showed up.

[ChumpDumper]

Some kind of action needs to be done. We all know shit like this will happen. I wish you would take a balanced approach and link something as to the reason why his name is in question. I'll bet there is an understandable reason his name showed up.What possible reason would cause his name to show up on a list of non-US citizens?

[Wild Cobra]

What possible reason would cause his name to show up on a list of non-US citizens?

I can think of several. I will not claiom any to be why. Why can't you think of any?

My point is this. PropagandaDan brings this story up, which is a clear hit piece to a process I think most people agree needs to happen. We can agree or disagree with that necessity, and I'm sure we do disagree.

Again, my gripe about this post Dan makes, and most others, is the completely one sided nature. Without giving a reason why Internicola is on the purge list, I thing the thread is a waste of time.

Now I believe Internicola is an Italian surname, which makes this confusing. Still, the other side of the story is "why" was he selected.

Where is the other side of the story? I'm not wasting my time with it, and I'm sure there is one.

[ChumpDumper]

I can think of several.Name them.

[Wild Cobra]

The county has a population of 1,748,066. I have no idea how many of that number are registered voters, but 359 out of that county is a pretty small percentage. I'm sure their methods have some selectivity to them.

[ChumpDumper]

The county has a population of 1,748,066. I have no idea how many of that number are registered voters, but 359 out of that county is a pretty small percentage. I'm sure their methods have some selectivity to them.You aren't naming the "several" possible reasons.

[Wild Cobra]

Name them.
No.

Why can't you think of any?

You as a silly question. There are naturally several reasons possible. Are you saying there is no possible reason?

[ChumpDumper]

No.

Why can't you think of any?

You as a silly question. There are naturally several reasons possible. Are you saying there is no possible reason?I'm saying you can't think of several reasons this man was singled out and are embarrassed that you're being exposed.

[ChumpDumper]

...and brave Wild Cobra ran away....

[boutons_deux]

Disenfranchising legit voters is the Repug idea of love of democracy and patriotism.

[RandomGuy]

No.

Why can't you think of any?

You as a silly question. There are naturally several reasons possible. Are you saying there is no possible reason?

So you can't name any reasons.

Shocking.

[RandomGuy]

Internicola

[George Gervin's Afro]

So let me gte this straight..the GOP is trying to eliminate 'illegal' votes..with no record of any actually ever of it being done....under the guise of free and fair elections... yet the policy they put in place will undoubtedly not allow for legitimate votes to be counted..


Maybe I have been living under a rock..but has anyone ever put forth any evidence that suggests that there is/ has been voter fraud? I am not referring to registering to vote, rather actual illegal votes being counted.

[ChumpDumper]

OK, I have a reason.
Bill Iternicola is a 91-year-old Davie retiree, born in Brooklyn and a lifelong Democrat and voter.

http://weblogs.sun-sentinel.com/news/politics/broward/blog/2012/05/_brightcovecreateexperiences_a.html

[George Gervin's Afro]

OK, I have a reason.

http://weblogs.sun-sentinel.com/news/politics/broward/blog/2012/05/_brightcovecreateexperiences_a.html

That's just a coincedence..

[ChumpDumper]

So let me gte this straight..the GOP is trying to eliminate 'illegal' votes..with no record of any actually ever of it being done....under the guise of free and fair elections... yet the policy they put in place will undoubtedly not allow for legitimate votes to be counted..


Maybe I have been living under a rock..but has anyone ever put forth any evidence that suggests that there is/ has been voter fraud? I am not referring to registering to vote, rather actual illegal votes being counted.Not for lack of trying.
Texas Attorney General Gregg Abbott, a Republican, launched an investigation in 2005 to uncover what he called an "epidemic" of voter fraud. But reviews of Abbott's investigation two years later yielded no cases of voter impersonation fraud. A Dallas Morning News review in 2008 found the 26 cases prosecuted were all against Democrats, most involved blacks and Hispanics, and typically involved people who helped elderly voters with mail-in ballots, but failed to follow state law by signing their names and addresses on the envelopes.

Abbot's investigation was paid for with a $1.4 million Justice Department crime-fighting grant.

After a five-year hunt for voter fraud, the Bush administration's Justice Department came up with little widespread fraud, finding mostly cases of people mistakenly filling out voter registration forms or voting when they didn't know they were ineligible, The New York Times reported in 2007. But none of the cases involved a person voting as someone else.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/09/24/voter-id-laws-target-rarely-occurring-voter-fraud/#ixzz1wTOg8tRs

[TeyshaBlue]

So let me gte this straight..the GOP is trying to eliminate 'illegal' votes..with no record of any actually ever of it being done....under the guise of free and fair elections... yet the policy they put in place will undoubtedly not allow for legitimate votes to be counted..


Maybe I have been living under a rock..but has anyone ever put forth any evidence that suggests that there is/ has been voter fraud? I am not referring to registering to vote, rather actual illegal votes being counted.

This appears to be the Texas Voter Fraud fiasco writ even larger.:depressed

[TeyshaBlue]

lol Chump beat my ass to it.

[boutons_deux]

Stomping on Human-Americans' "inalienable rights" like right to vote is one of the great skills of the Repug Gestapo

[Wild Cobra]

So you can't name any reasons.

Shocking.
I can come up with plenty of "guesses." Guesses do not make fact.

Are you saying you can't think of any possible reasons why?

I'm not playing this silly game. That's all there is to it.

[ChumpDumper]

I can come up with plenty of "guesses." Guesses do not make fact.

Are you saying you can't think of any possible reasons why?

I'm not playing this silly game. That's all there is to it.You can't think of any possible reasons after you said there were several and you're being pissy because you were successfully called out about it.

[Wild Cobra]

You can't think of any possible reasons after you said there were several and you're being pissy because you were successfully called out about it.
I can think of many, but you have to keep in mind. As long as you have a silly demand, I will refuse. Just part of my nature.

You have no authority over me. I have no reason to satisfy your demands. In fact, I like watching you melt down when I don't give you what you want.

[ChumpDumper]

I can think of many, but you have to keep in mind. As long as you have a silly demand, I will refuse. Just part of my nature.

You have no authority over me. I have no reason to satisfy your demands. In fact, I like watching you melt down when I don't give you what you want.I like watching you act like you have reasons when you don't.

At least I came up with one.

[Wild Cobra]

Perez-Verdia said his documents were received and he won’t be removed.
He was one of six to respond with citizenship proof in Broward, she said, of the 259 letters that went out.

Only six responding out of 259 letters... in a county with a 2010 population of 1,748,066...

Maybe most of these are ineligible voters.

[ChumpDumper]

Only six responding out of 259 letters...

Maybe most of these are ineligible voters.Maybe most of them are eligible Democrats.

[Wild Cobra]

Maybe most of them are eligible Democrats.
Maybe, maybe most are republicans. If you have the numbers, please post them. Your assumption doesn't count for much.

[ChumpDumper]

Maybe, maybe most are republicans. If you have the numbers, please post them. Your assumption doesn't count for much.Neither does yours that they are ineligible voters.

[ChumpDumper]

In addition to the six voters [out of 72 letters sent] who were able to prove to the Hillsborough County Supervisor of Elections office that the state’s database was incorrect, Craig Latimer says it’s possible other registered voters received the certified letter and threw it away.

One voter told him he’d done just that. When Latimer called him, the voter said that he was born in Canada and that when he was very young, his parents came to the United States and obtained citizenship. He became a citizen as well. “‘I served 12 years in the U.S. Navy,’ he told Latimer. ‘I threw your letter away.’”

Latimer said at that point he decided the SOE office would refrain from taking anyone else off the voting rolls.

http://cltampa.com/dailyloaf/archives/2012/05/30/hillsborough-county-ends-its-voter-purge#.T8e5Lb-iszC

This whole thing is a big steaming pile of shit. No wonder WC wants to swallow it whole.

[Wild Cobra]

Neither does yours that they are ineligible voters.
I'm not assuming they are ineligible. The numbers suggest one thing, but I am not one who uses statistics as fact.

I think you guys are missing a valid concern over this. It's one think to require someone show citizenship, but the notice was delivered by first class mail. It should have been certified. There should also be more than the 90 days to show why the state names are wrong. Now... if this guy cannot show he's a citizen, then that's that.

[ChumpDumper]

I'm not assuming they are ineligible.You just did.
I think you guys are missing a valid concern over this. It's one think to require someone show citizenship, but the notice was delivered by first class mail. It should have been certified. There should also be more than the 90 days to show why the state names are wrong. Now... if this guy cannot show he's a citizen, then that's that.Why should this particular man be required to show more proof than every other voter who isn't on that list in the first place?

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

I am not one who uses statistics as fact.
:lmao yeah, fuck stuff like data and evidence!

[Wild Cobra]

Why should this particular man be required to show more proof than every other voter who isn't on that list in the first place?
These came from a database with search criteria. The number is really small that the programming kicked out. I wish I knew what criteria they used, but I doubt they will release it.

Your link says that county sent certified letters. The county in the OP didn't, they used first class. That is a concern. These guys aren't even on the same sheet of music.

[Wild Cobra]

:lmao yeah, fuck stuff like data and evidence!
data and evidence makes statistics.

Statistics don't make fact.

There is a clear difference. Didn't you know that?

[ChumpDumper]

These came from a database with search criteria.What criteria would spit out the name of the man in the OP?

[ChumpDumper]

These came from a database with search criteria. The number is really small that the programming kicked out. I wish I knew what criteria they used, but I doubt they will release it.

Your link says that county sent certified letters. The county in the OP didn't, they used first class. That is a concern. These guys aren't even on the same sheet of music.The type of mail doesn't matter at all. WC trying to muddy the waters again.

[Wild Cobra]

The type of mail doesn't matter at all. WC trying to muddy the waters again.
No, the type of mail does matter. Even certifies isn't good enough because it only requires a signature from someone at the address. It doesn't insure the intended person received it.

[ChumpDumper]

No, the type of mail does matter. Even certifies isn't good enough because it only requires a signature from someone at the address.Nope, the type of mail does nothing to explain why the man in the OP was on the list in the first place.

[RandomGuy]

You have no authority over me.


:rollin

The "you aren't the boss of me" defense.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA (etc)

Wow, I haven't seen that one used by anybody over the age of ten in a looooong while. :lmao

Just, wow.

[RandomGuy]

I can come up with plenty of "guesses." Guesses do not make fact.

Are you saying you can't think of any possible reasons why?

I'm not playing this silly game. That's all there is to it.

It isn't a silly game.

It is a debate about a political party directly trying to disenfranchise people who don't belong to that party.

Moreover, it exposes the state to a rather hefty discrimination lawsuit, because hispanics, and those with spanish surnames and spanish-speaking national origins are directly protected classes.

[scott]

:rollin

The "you aren't the boss of me" defense.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA (etc)

Wow, I haven't seen that one used by anybody over the age of ten in a looooong while. :lmao

Just, wow.

Dude, he is Wild Cobra, not Pet Cobra. You can't tame him, you can only hope to avoid his strikes!

[TeyshaBlue]

Dude, he is Wild Cobra, not Pet Cobra. You can't tame him, you can only hope to avoid his strikes!

:lol:lol

[RandomGuy]

Dude, he is Wild Cobra, not Pet Cobra. You can't tame him, you can only hope to avoid his strikes!

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=212&pictureid=1685

[Wild Cobra]

Nope, the type of mail does nothing to explain why the man in the OP was on the list in the first place.
You are right. Maybe I should have elaborated. Such actions need to have tracking ability. You can't do that with first class mail. I was actually pointing out a flaw in how they went about this.

[Wild Cobra]

:rollin

The "you aren't the boss of me" defense.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA (etc)

Wow, I haven't seen that one used by anybody over the age of ten in a looooong while. :lmao

Just, wow.
Call it what you will, but I try not to play Chump's games.

Seriously... can you believe he is suggesting there is no conceivable criteria that they went by?

[Wild Cobra]

It isn't a silly game.

It is a debate about a political party directly trying to disenfranchise people who don't belong to that party.
Is that what your confirmation bias tells you?

Moreover, it exposes the state to a rather hefty discrimination lawsuit, because hispanics, and those with spanish surnames and spanish-speaking national origins are directly protected classes.
I see...

That's why they selected someone with an Italian surname?

[Wild Cobra]

dude, he is wild cobra, not pet cobra. You can't tame him, you can only hope to avoid his strikes!
lol...

[Wild Cobra]

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=212&pictureid=1685
Here, I fixed it. I can't stand the two-toned obviously edited background. At least make fun of me in style.

Two sizes:

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x262/Wild_Cobra/Misc/WileECobra40pct.jpg

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x262/Wild_Cobra/Misc/WileECobra.jpg

[ChumpDumper]

Call it what you will, but I try not to play Chump's games.

Seriously... can you believe he is suggesting there is no conceivable criteria that they went by?What criteria would flag the name of the man in the OP?

I'm serious.

[clambake]

http://cltampa.com/dailyloaf/archives/2012/05/30/hillsborough-county-ends-its-voter-purge#.T8e5Lb-iszC

This whole thing is a big steaming pile of shit. No wonder WC wants to swallow it whole.

:lol

[Nbadan]

Justice Department Demands Florida Stop Purging Voter Rolls


The Justice Department sent a letter to Florida Secretary of State Ken Detzner Thursday evening demanding the state cease purging its voting rolls because the process it is using has not been cleared under the Voting Rights Act, TPM has learned.

DOJ also said that Florida’s voter roll purge violated the National Voter Registration Act, which stipulates that voter roll maintenance should have ceased 90 days before an election, which given Florida’s August 14 primary, meant May 16.

Five of Florida’s counties are subject to the Voting Rights Act, but the state never sought permission from either the Justice Department or a federal court to implement its voter roll maintenance program. Florida officials said they were trying to remove non-citizens from the voting rolls, but a flawed process led to several U.S. citizens being asked to prove their citizenship status or be kicked off the rolls.

Six members of Congress wrote Gov. Rick Scott earlier this week demanding that he stop purging the state’s voting rolls since the process improperly flagged numerous individuals who were eligible to vote.


http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/05/justice_department_demands_florida_stop_purging_vo ter_rolls.php

Florida Department of State spokesman Chris Cate responds in a statement to ThinkProgress:

We just received the letter from DOJ this evening, and haven’t had a chance to thoroughly review it. Bottom line is we are firmly committed to doing the right thing and preventing ineligible voters from being able to cast a ballot.
Read more: http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/05/justice_department_demands_florida_stop_purging_vo ter_rolls.php

[Yonivore]

Justice Department Demands Florida Stop Purging Voter Rolls
Because dead and illegal voters will be crucial to Obama's re-election chances.

[boutons_deux]

"Because dead and illegal voters will be crucial to Obama's re-election chances."

because black, ethnic, poor, disabled, intimidated, student legit citizens' and residents' votes will be crucial to defeating Gecko.

[boutons_deux]

got any "dead voter" numbers, Pussy Eater? or you just lying like "voter fraud" liars have been doing for years?

"Back in 2000, 12,000 eligible voters - a number twenty-two times larger than George W. Bush’s 537 vote triumph over Al Gore - were wrongly identified as convicted felons and purged from the voting rolls in Florida, according to the Brennan Center for Justice. African Americans, who favored Gore over Bush by 86 points, accounted for 11 percent of the state’s electorate but 41 percent of those purged. Jeb Bush attempted a repeat performance in 2004 to help his brother win reelection but was forced to back off in the face of a public outcry. Yet with another close election looming, Florida Republicans have returned to their voter-scrubbing ways.

The latest purge comes on the heels of a trio of new voting restrictions passed by Florida Republicans last year, disenfranchising 100,000 previously eligible ex-felons who'd been granted the right to vote under GOP Governor Charlie Crist in 2008; shutting down non-partisan voter registration drives; and cutting back on early voting. The measures, the effect of which will be to depress Democratic turnout in November, are similar to voting curbs passed by Republicans in more than a dozen states, on the bogus pretext of combating "voter fraud" but with the very deliberate goal of shaping the electorate to the GOP's advantage before a single vote has been cast.

Florida Republicans have taken voter suppression to a brazen extreme. After the 2010 election, Gov. Rick Scott, a Republican, instructed Secretary of State Ken Browning to compile a massive database of alleged "non-citizen" voters. Browning resigned in February rather than implement Scott’s plan, saying "we were not confident enough about the information for this secretary to hang his hat on it."

But in early May his successor, Ken Detzner, a former beer-industry lobbyist, announced a list of 182,000 suspected non-citizens to be removed from the voting rolls, along with 50,000 apparently dead voters. (Seven thousand alleged felons had already been scrubbed from the rolls in the first four months of 2012). On May 8, the state mailed out a first batch of 2,600 letters to Florida residents informing them, "you are not a United States citizen; however you are registered to vote." If the recipients do not reply within thirty days and affirm their U.S. citizenship, they will be dropped from the voter rolls.

The first batch of names was riddled with inaccuracies. For example, as the progressive blog Think Progress noted, "an excess of 20 percent of the voters flagged as 'non-citizens' in Miami-Dade are, in fact, citizens. And the actual number may be much higher." If this ratio holds for the rest of the names on the non-citizens list, more than 35,000 eligible voters could be disenfranchised. Those alleged non-citizens have already included a 91-year-old World War II veteran who’s voted since he was 18 and a 60-year-old kennel owner who has voted in the state for four decades. It’s impossible to quantify how many eligible voters will be scrubbed from the rolls if they’ve moved, aren’t home, don’t have ready access to citizenship documents, or won’t bother to reply to the menacing letter.

"There are lots of things that can go wrong when you have these large-scale systematic purges," says Myrna Perez, senior counsel in the democracy program at the Brennan Center for Justice. "They need to be done really carefully, with a lot of transparency, well in advance of the election. And this is too close." Florida Republicans are following the lead of GOP secretaries of state in places like Colorado and New Mexico, who’ve made outlandish and unsubstantiated claims about non-citizens voting based on sketchy data, bad methodology, and anti-immigrant sentiment."

http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/275-42/11726-florida-gop-takes-voter-suppression-to-the-extreme

Repugs, self-styled lovers of freedom and democracy, fucking hard their fellow citizens. Repugs stealing FL in 2012, just like they did in 2000 and in OH in 2004.

[ChumpDumper]

Because dead and illegal voters will be crucial to Obama's re-election chances.None of that made up vote fraud bullshit has ever been proved, especially by the Bush administration's five year effort to find it.

Maybe you could give us a reason the man in the OP would be flagged as a noncitizen.

[scott]

None of that made up vote fraud bullshit has ever been proved, especially by the Bush administration's five year effort to find it.

Maybe you could give us a reason the man in the OP would be flagged as a noncitizen.

He's old enough to be dead?

[ChumpDumper]

i was reading that florida estimates 180,000 illegal immigrants are registered to vote in the state at minimum.Which estimate is that? The DMV one that department admits is flawed and out of date?

[boutons_deux]

"i was reading"

where?

If true, says that Repug FL government is comically incompetent.

[ChumpDumper]

http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/05/12/2796905/noncitizen-voter-hunt-targets.html

"The state’s Division of Elections says it initially identified roughly 180,000 potential noncitizens by performing a search of a computer database that doesn’t have the most-updated information."Just as I said.

And why did the man in the OP get flagged?

[boutons_deux]

"state’s Division of Elections"

yep, FL govt is hard-core Repug, so of course the state Division of Elections will be compromised politically, just like every govt office in TX.

[boutons_deux]

In Texas, 300,000 Eligible Voters Targeted In Purge

Florida voters are not the only ones who should be worried about whether their state has erroneously purged them from the list of eligible voters; the state of Texas also has a voter purge policy that erroneously targets eligible voters. The Houston Chronicle reports that, in a two year period, 300,000 eligible voters were warned that they may be removed from Texas voter rolls. Texas voter registration rates are already among the lowest in the nation, and one out of every 10 Texas voters’ registration is currently suspended. The almost 1.5 million voters who are suspended could be purged if they fail to vote in two consecutive general elections.

Texas has responded to state and federal laws that require voter rolls be reviewed to remove duplicates and ineligible voters by creating an error riddled process:

[A]cross Texas, such “removals” rely on outdated computer programs, faulty procedures and voter responses to generic form letters, often resulting in the wrong people being sent cancellation notices, including new homeowners, college students, Texans who work abroad and folks with common names, a Chronicle review of cancellations shows….

[E]ach year thousands of voters receive requests to verify voter information or be cancelled because they share the same name as a voter who died, got convicted of a crime or claimed to be a non-citizen to avoid jury duty. Those voters receive form letters generated by workers in county election offices that “therefore may be more subject to error,” said Rich Parsons, a spokesman for the Secretary of State in emailed responses to the newspaper. Voters who fail to respond to form letters – or never receive them – get dropped.

In the two years between November 2008 and November 2010, over 300,000 valid voters were warned that they may be removed from Texas voter rolls. Eligible voters were threatened with removal most often because they failed to respond to generic form letters or because they were mistaken for someone else, which is even more worrisome given that there is a high incidence of voters sharing a name in Texas, particularly among Hispanics. Across Texas, 21% of voters who received purge letters later proved that they were eligible to vote.

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2012/06/04/494417/in-texas-300000-eligible-voters-targeted-in-purge/

Repugs "Be Messin' With Texas"

[George Gervin's Afro]

So let me get this straight..the GOP is trying to eliminate 'illegal' votes..with no record of any actually no proof any illegal vote being counted....under the guise of free and fair elections... yet the policy they put in place will undoubtedly not allow for legitimate votes to be counted..


Maybe I have been living under a rock..but has anyone ever put forth any evidence that suggests that there is/ has been voter fraud? I am not referring to registering to vote, rather actual illegal votes being counted.

[jack sommerset]

Bless your heart George. I am very proud of you. You are not discouraged that people pay little or no attention to you to the point that you feel comfortable with yourself copying and posting your own post . Kudos to you. The bible teaches us "I can do all things through him who strengthens me." You keep plugging away and one day you will get the respect you deserve. You shall not be ignored, your message is important. Now of course you need to make sense to those you are trying to reach but I am very encourage you have no quit in you. God bless

[ChumpDumper]

What part of the Bible commands people to be disingenuous douches like jack?

[George Gervin's Afro]

Bless your heart George. I am very proud of you. You are not discouraged that people pay little or no attention to you to the point that you feel comfortable with yourself copying and posting your own post . Kudos to you. The bible teaches us "I can do all things through him who strengthens me." You keep plugging away and one day you will get the respect you deserve. You shall not be ignored, your message is important. Now of course you need to make sense to those you are trying to reach but I am very encourage you have no quit in you. God bless

so you (or your side) can't find any legals cases either..you're a holy piece of shit..

[jack sommerset]

so you (or your side) can't find any legals cases either..you're a holy piece of shit..

I forgive you for this outburst. God bless

[ChumpDumper]

I forgive you for this outburst. God blesslol ducking the question

[ChumpDumper]

:cryI can't help but notice you never produced any proof of the type of fraud you are talking about either.

You never will.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

What part of the Bible commands people to be disingenuous douches like jack?

3rd commandment. If he really is a believer then he best watch out.

[boutons_deux]

Voter Fraud Extremely Rare In Florida: ‘More Likely To Get Hit By A Bolt Of Lightning’

According to the Florida Department of Law Enforcement, 178 cases of alleged voter fraud have been referred to the department since 2000. [...]

Fraud, [Ion Sancho, the 24-year veteran election supervisor in Leon County] said, simply isn’t much of an issue. “You are more likely to walk out of your office and get hit by a bolt of lightning,” he said.


http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2012/06/06/495769/voter-fraud-extremely-rare-in-florida-state-data-reveals/

[scott]

Certainly this is an effective use of state funds.

[boutons_deux]

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[boutons_deux]

30 Elected Florida Republicans Stop Rick Scott’s Voter Purge

The 67 county elections supervisors — who have final say over voter purges —are not moving forward with the purge for now because nearly all of them don’t trust the accuracy of a list of nearly 2,700 potential noncitizens identified by the state’s elections office.The U.S. Department of Justice has ordered the state to stop the purge.

“We’re just not going to do this,” said Leon County’s elections supervisor, Ion Sancho, one of the most outspoken of his peers. “I’ve talked to many of the other supervisors and they agree. The list is bad. And this is illegal.”

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2012/06/08/496677/30-elected-florida-republicans-stop-rick-scotts-voter-purge/

[TeyshaBlue]

30 Elected Florida Republicans Stop Rick Scott’s Voter Purge

The 67 county elections supervisors — who have final say over voter purges —are not moving forward with the purge for now because nearly all of them don’t trust the accuracy of a list of nearly 2,700 potential noncitizens identified by the state’s elections office.The U.S. Department of Justice has ordered the state to stop the purge.

“We’re just not going to do this,” said Leon County’s elections supervisor, Ion Sancho, one of the most outspoken of his peers. “I’ve talked to many of the other supervisors and they agree. The list is bad. And this is illegal.”

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2012/06/08/496677/30-elected-florida-republicans-stop-rick-scotts-voter-purge/

Those fucking Republicans are obstructing those fucking Republicans!

[boutons_deux]

as elected, the election supervisors will certainly be targeted in the next election to be replaced by Repug/tea party hacks that will purge when dictated to.

[TeyshaBlue]

lol @ certainly

*hint* they were elected to their current position.

Better than zero chance they'll hang on to 'em.

[boutons_deux]

they refused to obey the Repug governor's attempt to steal the 2012 election, so they will be targeted by Repug/tea party vigilantes for removal next election.

[Nbadan]

Holy backfire, Florida Gov. Rick Scott’s attempt to purge the voting roles in Florida is not only wildly unpopular. It is also helping to solidify Obama’s lead in the state.



According to Public Policy Polling, 50% of Floridians disapprove of Rick Scott’s attempt to purge votes, with only 34% approving. Believe it or not, Rick has actually gotten less popular due to his plan to suppress the vote. Scott’s disapproval rating has sunk to 31%. His disapproval rating is at 56%. More importantly, Scott’s scheme seems to have destroyed any momentum that Mitt Romney was gaining in the Sunshine State. Romney has been able to make up one point on Obama since April. The president has gone from a 50%-45% lead to a 50%-46% lead. While Florida registered voters are split on Obama 49%-46%, the still don’t like Romney. The Republican nominee has an upside down 39%/53% approval rating in the state.



Going back to June of 2011, polling has consistently shown that Rick Scott is doing serious damage to the Republican brand in the state, while he has been helping President Obama. The June 2011 PPP poll found that Rick Scott made 40% of Florida voters less likely to vote Republican. Interestingly, the Obama/Romney spread has changed very little in a year. In 2011, Obama led Romney 47%-43%, fast forward almost a year and Obama’s lead remains at the exact same four points. Scott has been so unpopular that he has caused an entire police union to flip their support to the Democratic Party and hold public events urging others to join them. He is easily the nation’s least popular governor, and approval ratings in twenties and thirties have been the governor’s norm since he took office.Gov. Scott shouldn’t bother waiting around for a revival like Scott Walker has had. Scott’s highest approval rating has never surpassed Walker’s lowest (43%).

Rick Scott isn’t just wrecking the Republican Party in Florida, he is damaging the GOP’s chances in a state that they desperately need in order to have any hope at all of defeating President Obama in 2012.

Democrats rightly get nervous when whispers of Republican voter suppression efforts fill the air, but Florida is a great example of why 2012 isn’t 2000. Back in 2000, no one was talking about what Republicans were doing in Florida. Their suppression efforts were not getting media attention. Everyone assumed that the election was going to be open and fair. After getting burned in 2000, the left learned, and are being joined by Republican county election supervisors who are showing a great deal of integrity by refusing to cooperate with Scott’s purge.

http://www.politicususa.com/rick-scott-obama-voter-purge.html

[Winehole23]

disgraced (under indictment) former FL GOP chairman Jim Greer lets fly:


Greer said some GOP leaders were meeting to discuss ways they could suppress black votes.http://www.tampabay.com/news/politics/national/article1242157.ece

[boutons_deux]

Limbaugh: Don’t tell ‘people on welfare when the election is’

Rush Limbaugh is calling on his listeners to keep the election date a secret from the poorest Americans.

“Ninety-nine days, folks,” the conservative radio host announced on Monday. “Ninety-nine days before the election. If you are a welfare recipient, that’s just a little more than three checks.”

“Maybe we shouldn’t remind people,” he added after thinking about it. “We shouldn’t remind people on welfare when the election is. That may not be something we want to actually do.”

Earlier this month, Limbaugh suggested that President Barack Obama was plotting to win reelection with new rules that allow states to apply for waivers to work requirements under the Temporary Assistance to Needy Families (TANF) program.

The president doesn’t “want people off of welfare in this regime” because “those are voters that are getting away,” Limbaugh said.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/07/30/limbaugh-dont-tell-people-on-welfare-when-the-election-is/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29&utm_content=Google+Reader

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