Start Stephen Jackson

[Marcus Bryant]

He'd play all 48 if given the opportunity. At this point you want players who want to compete and win. Manu goes back to his 6th man role.

Shorten the rest of the rotation and keep Bonner off the court.

:makemyday

[Cant_Be_Faded]

But then the bench has no one to guard Durant

Jack can't play whole game, he'll foul out

[timtonymanu]

Tbh, it would have made more sense than starting Manu.

[Paranoid Pop]

But then the bench has no one to guard Durant

Jack can't play whole game, he'll foul out

Kawhi can play 43 minutes like Durant.

[GrandeDavid]

Play Jack until he fouls out. Keep game within striking distance then allow only Manu to shoot in the fourth.

[DAF86]

Benching Manu at this point is retarded. I may consider starting Jackson over Leonard though.

[TDMVPDPOY]

KL adn diaw needs to pull the trigger then settle for penetration and lobbin it out again...

[LakerHater]

I like this idea!

[100%duncan]

Tbh, it would have made more sense than starting Manu.

[T Park]

Splitter manu and maybe green.

Roll with everyone else.

[Marcus Bryant]

Starting Manu is retarded. You have to keep two of the big 3 on the court at all times. Pop ended up with that shit lineup due to that.

[SpursFanInAustin]

I agree 100%

BTW, have you noticed your namesake is an asst. coach sitting behind the OKC bench?

[Spur|n|Austin]

Starting Manu is retarded. You have to keep two of the big 3 on the court at all times. Pop ended up with that shit lineup due to that.

No Pop ended up with the shit lineup because he insists on resting his players. This is a do or die game of the WCF's. Play them heavy minutes.

[DAF86]

How do you pretend to play Manu 35 minutes (which is what Pop should do) while having him in the bench for the first half of the 1st and 3rd quarter?

That's 12 minutes right there. Do you expect him to play 35 of the remaining 36 minutes without a breather?

[DAF86]

Starting Manu is retarded. You have to keep two of the big 3 on the court at all times. Pop ended up with that shit lineup due to that.

I don't think there's a single game in these playoffs where two of the big 3 were on the court at all times.

[dbreiden83080]

Put Bonner in there and have him foul that clown Harden so hard he is carted off the floor..

[DAF86]

Seriously people, give it a little more thought. Are you really suggesting that one of the few players that haven't played like shit gets benched/his minutes reduced? It just doesn't make sense.

[MI21]

Tbh, this game is such an unlikely one to win that I'm rolling with the best.

No matter what, the only swingmen that play should be Jackson / Ginobili / Leonard. 96 minutes there, I'm going with 28 for Manu, 36 for Jackson and 32 for Leonard. Manu can take the backup PG minutes, which should be a maximum of 8.

[Mugen]

No. Keep the same starting lineup from Game 5.

Neal/Jax/Tiago off the bench. Limited mins. for Gary and Splitter.

TP/Manu/Tim all need to play 36-42 minutes. Jack too probably.

[Marcus Bryant]

Manu doesnt care if he starts or comes off the bench. Seriously. Spurs need him coming off the bench.

[DPG21920]

MB is correct here. Obviously hindsight is 20/20, but that's why with injuries and such you see most coaches seemingly go with someone like Jax instead of Manu because it minimizes the changes to everything or multiple guys vs just one guy.

[DAF86]

Manu doesnt care if he starts or comes off the bench. Seriously. Spurs need him coming off the bench.

I was cool with Manu coming off the bench while we were winning but now I don't think that's the way to go.

Spurs don't need him to come off the bench. They need him to play as many minutes as possible without getting too gassed. Having him on the bench for the first 6 minutes of the 1st and 3rd when he is fresh isn't the way to do that.

[Spur|n|Austin]

I was cool with Manu coming off the bench while we were winning but now I don't think that's the way to go.

Spurs don't need him to come off the bench. They need him to play as many minutes as possible without getting too gassed. Having him on the bench for the first 6 minutes of the 1st and 3rd when he is fresh isn't the way to do that.

Agreed. Manu should start.

[Spurs4#5]

Manu needs to start...while we lost this game we pretty much got whatever we wanted starting out...just couldn't hit shit

[ElNono]

Pop said in the presser that Manu starting had to do with giving him more minutes... I just never understood why can't you adjust your rotations so he still plays 35 mins even if he comes off the bench...

[ViceCity86]

Jack should be first to replace Manu off the bench,not Gary Neal.I believe that will happen.

[DAF86]

Pop said in the presser that Manu starting had to do with giving him more minutes... I just never understood why can't you adjust your rotations so he still plays 35 mins even if he comes off the bench...


How do you pretend to play Manu 35 minutes (which is what Pop should do) while having him in the bench for the first half of the 1st and 3rd quarter?

That's 12 minutes right there. Do you expect him to play 35 of the remaining 36 minutes without a breather?

[therealtruth]

Kawhi can play 43 minutes like Durant.

Pop has to always have a fresh Jax or Kawhi on Durant. I think he needs to consider even using Danny Green to keep the guys fresh.

[therealtruth]

Benching Manu at this point is retarded. I may consider starting Jackson over Leonard though.

Leonard is suddenly reluctant to shoot for some reason.

[therealtruth]

Put Bonner in there and have him foul that clown Harden so hard he is carted off the floor..

[suitedkings]

Doesnt matter at this point. Pop is shook. One of the worst at making in series adjustments.

[Josepatches_]

Benching Manu at this point is retarded. I may consider starting Jackson over Leonard though.

This.

The reason to play limited minutes all the year is TO PLAY HIM NOW.

He was the best player at least in game 1 and game 5.Watching how TP dissappears it seems Manu still being the go to guy when it counts.

[sehui]

benching Kwahi might be a good idea for now. He's been playing great, but we need more offensively, and Kwahi's hasn't been confident in his 3 pnt shot as of recent, doing a lot of pump fake and drive.

[urunobili]

I can't believe I beat Marcus Bryant to this thread :wow

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=198860

[cheguevara]

this is not about Xs and Os anymore

Spurs need to want to win. I have not seen evidence of this besides Manu + Jackson.

[Manu20]

Jack should be first to replace Manu off the bench,not Gary Neal.I believe that will happen.

Jack should be the first off the bench no matter who he is coming in for tbh

[Giuseppe]

Really. What's the sense in cheating to get him, if you only turn around and fail to use him properly?

tee, hee.

[urunobili]

Really. What's the sense in cheating to get him, if you only turn around and fail to use him properly?

tee, hee.

:monkey

[SPurs206]

Might be a good idea the key the game will be to have a lead at the half. I think the best shot will be starting sjax he's got the toughness.

[boutons_deux]

I don't think SJ has played enough long minutes to be in game shape 36m+ now.

But, I'd try anything now to get Tim one more ring.

[urunobili]

Jax and Manu should eat Neal's and Green's minutes completely. Just by starting Jax and if those before mentioned don't see the court, Manu should play 35 off the bench.

[therealtruth]

Pop can't lose the second quarter by stupid rotations.

[DAF86]

Manu should play 35 off the bench.

How do you plan to do that without having Manu gassed out for playing 18 minutes in a row for half.

[spurraider21]

stay with same lineup as game 5. the boys really stepped their game up in the 2nd half. seeing the last 5 minutes of the game, i had never been prouder of this team. i believe they will win. believe

[DAF86]

Start: Tony-Manu-Jack-Diaw-Tim
6mins: Neal or Green for Manu
10mins: Manu for Tony- Leonard for Jackson- Tiago for Duncan

2nd Qtr: start with the Line-up that ended the 1st: Manu-Neal/Green-Leonard-Diaw-Tiago
3 mins: Tony for Manu- Jackson for Leonard (or Neal/Green)- Duncan for Diaw
6mins: Manu for Neal/Green (or Leonard).
7mins: Diaw for Tiago.

Repeat the pattern on the second half.

Diaw: 40 minutes
Tony, Tim and Jackson: 38 minutes
Manu: 34 minutes
Neal/Green: 18/24 minutes
Tiago: 18 minutes
Leonard: 10/16 minutes

Of course this is expecting everybody to play as expected. If, for example, Leonard is playing better than Jack, KL should be the one getting more minutes.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

I've come around on this idea

Its risky in terms of foul trouble, but manu off the bench gives that second unit more punch

And Jackson wants to play

Problem still is can heplay a full game? The intense ball Jackson had played recently, I've seen him gassed after 28 minutes or so

I don't know of he can sustain great play for a ton of minutes.

[therealtruth]

I've come around on this idea

Its risky in terms of foul trouble, but manu off the bench gives that second unit more punch

And Jackson wants to play

Problem still is can heplay a full game? The intense ball Jackson had played recently, I've seen him gassed after 28 minutes or so

I don't know of he can sustain great play for a ton of minutes.

We've got to keep someone who's fresh on Durant to wear him down. That's why I'm frustrated with Pop unwilling to use Danny Green on him.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Durant is the best player inn the league, he's going to get his points one way or another

Its the ibaka, collison, cook, Fisher shots we need to stop

[DAF86]

Durant is the best scorer, not the best player.

[ducks]

no neal

[T Park]

I've come around on this idea

Its risky in terms of foul trouble, but manu off the bench gives that second unit more punch

And Jackson wants to play

Problem still is can heplay a full game? The intense ball Jackson had played recently, I've seen him gassed after 28 minutes or so

I don't know of he can sustain great play for a ton of minutes.



I personally think in this series on the perimeter he's been too passive.


He's been nails this entire series. Shoot the damn ball Jax.

[blkroadrunners]

I'd start him especially with Neal out this game. I doubt Mills will get over 5 minutes if not any. If Parker's not running point, mostly likely it will be Manu.

[DieHardSpursFan1537]

How about no more Blair?

[007nites]

Parker
Ginobili
Jack
Leonard
Duncan

[Legacy]

Parker/Manu/Jackson/Diaw/Duncan. The Spurs'll have to fight till the last second

:ihit

[Legacy]

http://ct.fra.bz/ol/fz/sw/i52/5/5/2/frabz-SPURS-WIN-d424f8.jpg

[DontStopBelieving]

Tbh, this game is such an unlikely one to win that I'm rolling with the best.

No matter what, the only swingmen that play should be Jackson / Ginobili / Leonard. 96 minutes there, I'm going with 28 for Manu, 36 for Jackson and 32 for Leonard. Manu can take the backup PG minutes, which should be a maximum of 8.

Playing your best player 28 minutes in an elimination game is pretty fucking retarded.

[Capt Bringdown]

Spurs don't do well with on the fly adjustments. Unfortunately.

[MI21]

Playing your best player 28 minutes in an elimination game is pretty fucking retarded.

Not retarded if you read my whole post where I mention Manu plays 28 minutes at the swingman spots and an extra 8 minutes as backup PG, totalling 36.

RIF.

[Spurs9]

JAX should have taken that final 3 last night

[lefty]

But then the bench has no one to guard Durant

Jack can't play whole game, he'll foul out

This