2012 Free Agent: Kenyon Martin

[Bruno]

http://www.nba.com/media/act_kenyon_martin.jpg
Born: Dec 30, 1977
Height: 6-9 / 2.06
Weight: 240 lbs. / 108.9 kg.
Prior to NBA / Country:
Cincinnati / USA
Years Pro: 11

Info (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/kenyon_martin/career_stats.html)

[timvp]

Doesn't sound like the Clippers will bring him back. Last year, Martin said he was close to signing with the Spurs. If Diaw or Lorbek can't be signed, Martin makes some sense.

-He's still a plus defender. He moves his feet well, challenges shots and isn't bashful about going up for defensive boards. Where he could really help defensively is defending the pick-and-roll. He'd instantly become the best bigman on the team at defending those plays.

-Offensively he's pretty bad these days but he's at least capable of shooting from the perimeter. That trait is needed in S.A.'s offense.

-He has a mean streak and won't shrivel in the playoffs. He might not play well (2003 Finals, Game 6) but it won't be because he got scared.

-He'll be cheap.



I'm not a huge Kenyon Martin fan but if the Spurs want a bigman defender, he's still well above average on that end.

[Duncan2177]

I wouldn't mind Kenyon.He would come cheap.

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

Fugazi!!!

[Ditty]

Duncan/Diaw/Splitter/Lorbek/Martin rotation

I can only imagine

[freetiago]

hes still pretty mobile and did a pretty good job on parker when he got switched onto him during the reg season
also hit the mid range at a good clip in the playoffs
hed be a good pickup but hes probably out of the price range

[racm]

He's good, but if he joins the Spurs only to be reminded of how many times Duncan owned him in the playoffs...

He also challenged the potential game winner Rudy Gay chucked after the Grizzlies choked away Game 1.

[timvp]

Is there a better bigman who fits the Spurs system that could be available for the minimum? I can't think of one. Martin would be a really good get at this point and would make it easier to move away from Blonnair.

[racm]

Can guard most PFs and the bigger SFs. Notably challenged Rudy Gay's shot to preserve the Clippers' comeback win in Game 1.

It's also worth noting he's been Duncan's b*tch throughout his career. Nets got beaten in the Finals, Denver got beaten on the way to championships in 2005 and 2007, and the Spurs swept the Clippers...

[baseline bum]

I can't imagine Martin for the minimum.

[T Park]

Could be gotten with the rest of the MLE maybe.

[Mel_13]

I can't imagine Martin for the minimum.

Maybe he signs for the minimum, but not in San Antonio.


Could be gotten with the rest of the MLE maybe.

That's less than the vet minimum for KMart.

[MR.SILVER&BLack]

would be a great ending for the spurs free agency this year, but he will most likely sign with the Knicks. especially with Smith, Melo & Camby in NY.

[crc21209]

I would be just fine with TD, Diaw, Splitter, Martin, and Blair as the 5th big on the front-line...

[baseline bum]

If they can get him for minimum it would be huge.

[maverick1948]

If they can get him for minimum it would be huge.

If we are looking for bigs, Martin would be good, and so would Brand. Amnesty Bonner for roster space, sign both to minimum contracts. Then we would have the 1st pick of the 1997, 1999 and 2000 drafts. Blair, Neal and Jackson would all be available for trade at the deadline in Feb.

:toast

[siraulo23]

Man if they can convince Martin to be a spur somehow...

[spurs10]

If they can get him for minimum it would be huge.
Agreed. I'll especially enjoy him being on the team when Cuban is in the building!
I think his attitude would do us some good as well....

[timtonymanu]

I would love K-Mart on the Spurs. Martin signing with the Spurs would mean one of Bonner/Blair is out.

I just don't see Martin wanting to play here. Hopefully I'm wrong.

[MR.SILVER&BLack]

If we are looking for bigs, Martin would be good, and so would Brand. Amnesty Bonner for roster space, sign both to minimum contracts. Then we would have the 1st pick of the 1997, 1999 and 2000 drafts. Blair, Neal and Jackson would all be available for trade at the deadline in Feb.

:toast
Brand was amnestied so we have no chance at getting him.

[024]

yeah, martin will be good for defending PFs and small centers but that's about it. i wouldn't really expect anything from his offense or rebounding. it's better than nothing though and he can definitely get in the rotation, which means less bonner and blair.

[Marcus Bryant]

Sure.

[Marcus Bryant]

if we are looking for bigs, martin would be good, and so would brand. Amnesty bonner for roster space, sign both to minimum contracts. Then we would have the 1st pick of the 1997, 1999 and 2000 drafts. Blair, neal and jackson would all be available for trade at the deadline in feb.

:toast

gfy.

[Wild Cobra Kai]

Vet minimum for KMart is like $1.3.-1.4M. It's not much less than the LLE, and certainly not really a hardship.

Fugazi!!!

[Knoxxx]

Guy can defend the rim and hit jumpers, so YES!

[baseline bum]

Agreed. I'll especially enjoy him being on the team when Cuban is in the building!
I think his attitude would do us some good as well....

Nah, I don't think his dumbass gangster attitude would be a good fit, but him being able to eat up some minutes while not getting killed defensively like Blair and Bonner do would be big.

[timvp]

I have no idea if the Spurs are even in the running but supposedly they were runner-up to the Clippers last year. The Spurs can offer Martin two years and $2.8 million. Might be able to get more but maybe not.

[Dingle Barry]

Yes please.

And I don't see how his attitude is that much different from Jack's.

[maverick1948]

gfy.


Nice answer dipstick. Jackson is going to be used as trade bait before next season is over. I guess you want to have a team that has an average age of 40 in a couple of years.

If the best you can answer is gfy, they you need to grew up and learn to communicate like an adult.

Good day dipstick

[Solid D]

At least Kenyon can still block a shot.

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[Redshadows]

Trade Bonner for Martin through a S&T.

It could weaken the Clippers in the same time.

[Wild Cobra Kai]

Nice answer dipstick. Jackson is going to be used as trade bait before next season is over. I guess you want to have a team that has an average age of 40 in a couple of years.

If the best you can answer is gfy, they you need to grew up and learn to communicate like an adult.

Good day dipstick

They're not going to trade Jack. He's a guy who ACTUALLY PERFORMS in the playoffs. In a couple years, the average age will plummet, because we'll be rebuilding. We're all in for the next year or two. Wouldn't surprise me a bit to see the Spurs re-sign Jack for a year or two next summer, something like Diaw's contract.

[Redshadows]

Martin + 2013 first round pick for Blair + Bonner + Neal

:lol

[T Park]

Nice answer dipstick. Jackson is going to be used as trade bait before next season is over. I guess you want to have a team that has an average age of 40 in a couple of years.

If the best you can answer is gfy, they you need to grew up and learn to communicate like an adult.

Good day dipstick


How does one grew up, dipstick?

[smaka]

Get that dude, send away Bonner and we are staaacked.

[-21-]

Get that dude, send away Bonner and we are staaacked.

Just do either one and I'd be content.

[trollt]

How does one grew up, dipstick?

They you need to grew up, man.
Sounds pretty straightforward to me

[bigfan]

Martin is a punk like J Smith. No thanks.

[spurspokesman]

Martin is a punk like J Smith. No thanks.

Every team needs one. Sick of watching a heartless spurs frontline. He may not be the best but he plays with a chip just like jax. We need more nasty.:ihit

[Knoxxx]

You guys should stop fighting about simple differences in opinion. There are facts and there are opinions, getting a better understanding of which is which will reduce thread clutter.

I think we are well positioned to let S Jax retire a Spur at a reasonable price, if he wants to and does not stick around past his useful life.

Martin appears a bargain and way on the high end of what is out there at that price if he will actually accept the league min.

[Obstructed_View]

Every team needs one. Sick of watching a heartless spurs frontline. He may not be the best but he plays with a chip just like jax. We need more nasty.:ihit

Sorry, but JR Smith is an example of his stupid more than counteracting any nasty he might potentially bring.

[spurspokesman]

Sorry, but JR Smith is an example of his stupid more than counteracting any nasty he might potentially bring.
I concur on that point. Im speaking on the front of Kmart bringing a swagger to the spurs frontline. He is not afraid to get his hands dirty and doesnt shy away when the going gets tough. JR smith is a dingbat, kmart is a knucklehead that brings what we need to the table above all things so I would be happy to live with his flaws.

[Knoxxx]

If Kmart was OUR thug he would be much more loveable.

[spurspokesman]

If Kmart was OUR thug he would be much more loveable.
Eggzactly:toast (Likeable) fixed.:lol

[ace3g]

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA

Kris Humphries future in Brooklyn unclear. Besides Antawn Jamison, Nets considering FA's Kenyon Martin, Craig Smith, sources tell Y! Sports.

[MR.SILVER&BLack]

Whether it be with Knicks or Nets Martin will be in NY this season.

[Holt's Cat]

Yeah, sure, I mean, vet min, whatever.

Hey, he's not Slovenian.

[Bruno]

I'm surprised by how little movement there are around K Mart. There has been a couple of rumors about teams being interested in him with Warriors and Nets but aside of that, nothing. While teams that could be a good fit are filling their roster with Nets adding Nazr, Clippers adding Hollins, Lakers adding Jamison and Jordan Hill... the situation is strangely quiet regarding Martin.

[Duncan2177]

I'm surprised by how little movement there are around K Mart. There has been a couple of rumors about teams being interested in him with Warriors and Nets but aside of that, nothing. While teams that could be a good fit are filling their roster with Nets adding Nazr, Clippers adding Hollins, Lakers adding Jamison and Jordan Hill... the situation is strangely quiet regarding Martin.

Strangely quiet regarding Martin. Is that a good thing for the spurs?

[Andthentherewas21]

Can't remember where I read it, but supposedly he was looking for a 3 year deal and wanted more than the minimum.

[Poolboy5623]

I dont see how a guy thats good for no more than 10-15min/game is going to put this team over the hump? Not happening nor would the Spurs be "stacked" if they did acquire Kenyon(I hope the comment above was a joke). We had our best chance last year to win again..they folded to the Thunder- with the league set on its stars the Spurs are going to be left out in the cold-

[Poolboy5623]

Also, the "trade" threads involving bonner, blair, and Neal really need to stop. Its a waste of thread space. The Spurs are stuck with Bonner(its their own fault) and Blair. Neal I can deal with.

[Andthentherewas21]

Also, the "trade" threads involving bonner, blair, and Neal really need to stop. Its a waste of thread space. The Spurs are stuck with Bonner(its their own fault) and Blair. Neal I can deal with.

Blair they could get rid of if they wanted, his contract isn't guaranteed, and GSW said they were interested in him just not for the 1st round pick the Spurs are asking for.

As for Bonner, no team is taking him unless its part of a bigger deal to match salaries.

[Poolboy5623]

They want to get rid of Blair, but the problem is nobody has offered them anything...Hmmm?

[Andthentherewas21]

They want to get rid of Blair, but the problem is nobody has offered them anything...Hmmm?

They could waive him for nothing if they really wanted him gone. Hence the non-guaranteed contract.

And no one said the Spurs hadn't been offered anything for him, they just weren't offered the 1st rounder they were asking for. At this point, given his contract, hes worth more to the Spurs as a regular season minutes eater than clearing him for a roster spot for a mystery minimum big-man the Spurs seem to be pursuing each off-season.

[TMT®]

Spurs should be going balls to the wall for this guy. Unless they have some trade in mind to acquire another big, I have no idea what the hesitation is for. I'm really surprised K-Mart is still on the open market. Is he holding out for more money or something?

[TD 21]

http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/nba--kenyon-martin-upset-he-can-t-get-nba-job-04311709.html;_ylt=A2KLJYhkGJdQWU4AJAPqbwM6;_ylu=X 3oDMTRrbGJzOWFiBG1pdANMSVNUUyBNaXhlZCBMaXN0IE5CQSB FeHBlcnRzBHBrZwNhMTA4N2U1NC0wNDFmLTNlZDAtOGY5NS1kZ TM2MWNmNzFlNzUEcG9zAzEEc2VjA01lZGlhQkxpc3RNaXhlZEx QQ0FUZW1wBHZlcgMzZjVlYTk2My0yNmU5LTExZTItOTNmZi0xO TU4YTYwODY0NzQ-;_ylg=X3oDMTFoZGZwdmhsBGludGwDY2EEbGFuZwNlbi1jYQRw c3RhaWQDBHBzdGNhdANuYmEEcHQDc2VjdGlvbnM-;_ylv=3

"If someone calls me tomorrow, I don't care who it is, whether it's losing or winning at this point," Martin said. "If someone calls me tomorrow and wants me to come in, I'm going.


Even though he's 3 years older, I'd prefer McDyess. He not only knows the system, but he's a better mid range shooter (though a more proven mid range shooter than Blair, if Pop still doesn't feel comfortable playing Blair next to Splitter, then he probably won't feel comfortable playing Martin next to Splitter, either) and rebounder. Martin's a better defender, but not by enough of a margin to outweigh everything else.

That being said, they should attempt to secure a commitment quickly from McDyess, because the chances of Martin being snatched up increase by the day. All it takes is one injury or for one player to under perform for someone to turn to him.

[Richie]

Spurs are a contender because of chemistry, I imagine they are worried Martin will ruin that. As far as talent though, we should at least give him the minimum. Can always waive him

[Ice009]

wtf I thought he was being picky. If that quote is true, grab him and McDyess. Trade away Blair for a pick to open up a roster spot. Do the Spurs really think he would be a bad fit? Maybe Pop has talked to De Negro about him? I thought it was Martin not wanting to sign with us for the minimum. It sems like it is the Spurs that aren't interested, why would that be you think?

[TDMVPDPOY]

his inconsistently offensively when shooting the ball, but defense, rebound...maybe setting hard screens will be welcome on this team...

[Spurs da champs]

Spurs need a defensive minded bruiser, K-Mart fits the mould & the Spurs can cut Blair since he's on a unguaranteed contract till January.

[Ice009]

The question is, why haven't the Spurs contacted Martin if he is desperate for a job like that quote makes it seem like he is?

It sounds like the Spurs aren't interested, so why would that be? Is it character issues that they have concerns with? That shouldn't be a problem with this team, so it must be basketball reasons? Do they think that he wouldn't fit on the team basketball wise? Does he have a low Bball IQ?

[Hoops Czar]

If Martin wants to know why he's not signed, the first thing he needs to do is stop sending mixed messages.

http://blogs.bettor.com/Kenyon-Martin-still-not-playing-for-any-team-unless-they-offer-him-mini-mid-level-exception-NBA-News-a198237 3 days ago

[Ice009]

OK, that explains it. What a freaking tool.

[elemento]

It's pretty clear that he wanted more than the min from day 1. Otherwise, I am sure SA would consider him.

[td4mvp2k]

This will never happen after last season when he had his chance and NO the Spurs will not cut Blair!

[Duncan2177]

This will never happen after last season when he had his chance and NO the Spurs will not cut Blair!

What's the point of having Blair if Pop is not going to play him?

[ChumpDumper]

He would be a near perfect fit skillwise off the bench, but I wouldn't hold my breath. I imagine he's looking for a bigger, more guaranteed role.

[DAF86]

He would be a near perfect fit skillwise off the bench, but I wouldn't hold my breath. I imagine he's looking for a bigger, more guaranteed role.

I think he wants playing time on a contender and out of those teams (Heat, Thunder, Spurs and maybe Lakers) San Antonio might be the one that could give him the most amount of time on the court. He may even crack a starting role.

[Obstructed_View]

The Spurs won't guarantee him playing time under any circumstances, and I'm sure they aren't going to offer more than the minimum. I'm sure they've gone ahead and called him, but I'm equally sure he knew all this ahead of time and wasn't even entertaining the idea.

[szkorhetz]

What? He would be at least our third best big at the moment he is in black&silver. He could even find him as a 4th quater closer in a team where the goal is nothing less than the trophy, and they have a LEGIT chance. Could he ask for anything more?

[Paranoid Pop]

That situation is making my brain explodes, either Kenyon is lying or the FO is dropping the ball.

[td4mvp2k]

What's the point of having Blair if Pop is not going to play him?

He's not only playing but starting and thats the point of having him.