The Darknight Rises: Thoughts?

[scanry]

Bane beat the living sh!t out of Batman in their first encounter. Even James Cameron didn't do this sh!t in The Terminator. :lol

Batman didn't put up any fight whatsoever. :wow

Only problem i have with Nolan is how he killed off Bane at the end. BTW did Bane actually die?

I absolutely hated Bane's English accent, he could've gone with an American accent. Half the time i couldn't understand what he was saying.

[redzero]

Batman put up a fight, but he was just clearly outmatched.

And Bane's voice was very menacing in that scene.

[scanry]

Batman put up a fight, but he was just clearly outmatched.

And Bane's voice was very menacing in that scene.

Did Bane ever beat Batman this bad in the comics?

[CuckingFunt]

I absolutely hated Bane's English accent, he could've gone with an American accent. Half the time i couldn't understand what he was saying.

Tom Hardy is British, but his accent wasn't. Or, at the very least, Bane's accent wasn't Hardy's.

I think there was a conscious decision to make Bane's accent impossible to pin down to any one location, which I thought was a very smart way to play it.

[redzero]

Yep.

[CuckingFunt]

Did Bane ever beat Batman this bad in the comics?

http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/3438/bane0020.jpg

[BUMP]

Kinda boring until the football scene but ended up being pretty good imho

[mingus]

Watched it again this morning. I think I'm ready to officially call it my favorite of the trilogy, which I honestly didn't expect.

Not only that, but the way it ties back to Batman Begins has made me like that one even more than I already did. The Dark Knight, which I still fucking love, is easily #3 for me now. Which, again, I did not at all expect to be the case.

I love very much the part where Bruce reaches the top of the pit on his third attmpt and bats come out of the crevaces. I wonder if those bats were actually there or if they were just used as a symbolic allusion to BB when Bruce is swarmed by bats when he falls in the empty well.

It is true though that there are a number of allusion to BB. Some understated and some not so understated. For example, when Batman visits Gordon in the hospital in TDKR for the first, he is not in his normal batman attire, just as when he puts a staple to Gordon's neck in BB. It hints at a regeneration of sorts. I love that aspect about the movie.

[mingus]

Vader not even close. More like a really bad Sean Connery. His voice was so overmodulated at times I couldnt understand wtf he was saying.

If you didn't notic some inspiration from Vader in the first showdown between Batman and Bane, I do not know what to say. I think it is clearly obvious.

[T Park]

Bane's voice became one of the scariest voices in movie history to me..
During the first fight scene it's just amplified with the brutality while he's just destroying batman.

[CubanSucks]

I hear Sean Connery over anything in Bane's voice. In fact that was the first thing I thought of when he first spoke on the plane. Regardless, I still thought it was super intimidating. I agree that his voice was still too unclear. I was getting like every other word when he spoke at a normal volume. When he was yelling and giving speeches I could understand him perfectly tho

[MannyIsGod]

I love very much the part where Bruce reaches the top of the pit on his third attmpt and bats come out of the crevaces. I wonder if those bats were actually there or if they were just used as a symbolic allusion to BB when Bruce is swarmed by bats when he falls in the empty well.

It is true though that there are a number of allusion to BB. Some understated and some not so understated. For example, when Batman visits Gordon in the hospital in TDKR for the first, he is not in his normal batman attire, just as when he puts a staple to Gordon's neck in BB. It hints at a regeneration of sorts. I love that aspect about the movie.

There's nothing understated about straight up flashbacks dude. There was one while in the pit of the well with his father there. Thats not alluding to anything, thats stating it.

[MannyIsGod]

If you didn't notic some inspiration from Vader in the first showdown between Batman and Bane, I do not know what to say. I think it is clearly obvious.

Other than the mask what linked him to vader? I don't know if he was or not, but the only time I even thought about it was when you brought it up.

[lefty]

Bane reminds me more of the Mutant Leader from the Dark Knight Returns

[lefty]

http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/484049_10151105535315289_258725467_n.jpg

[scanry]

Wayne Manor is different from Begins. I guess both are located in England?

[scanry]

I guess we've seen the last of Wally Pfister in Nolan films. :wow

Wally Pfister, filmmaking ally of Christopher Nolan, is deep into preproduction on his directorial debut, an as-yet-untitled major feature film. Nolan and his wife and producing partner Emma Thomas will serve as executive producers on the project. An early fall shoot is planned.

Nolan has made seven films with Pfister at the camera, including this summer’s The Dark Knight Rises, as well as Memento, Insomnia, Batman Begins, The Prestige, and Inception, which brought Pfister an Oscar. Nolan is known for boosting visual impact by shooting on large film formats like 65 mm and IMAX. The Dark Knight brought in upwards of a billion dollars for Warners.

Pfister says that many of his lessons were learned by watching and working with Nolan over the course of seven pictures. “During this preproduction process, I’m always hearing Chris’ voice,” he says. “I know how he would approach things. Chris has a very frugal approach to filmmaking. He never wastes anything. So I am trying to be clever about spending money so I can maximize our budget.”

http://www.davidheuring.com/2012/07/11/oscar-winning-dp-wally-pfister-asc-turns-to-directing/

[lefty]

Holy shit :lmao




WTF :lmao




Must watch

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Cir1zKmi2Y

[scanry]

That's some sick and perverted shit right there. Why would some one bring that in here?

[blkroadrunners]

:lol wtf indeed

[TE]

Lefty with the sick bads :td

[blkroadrunners]

I think TDK is better than BB as a stand alone movie. But in terms of the trilogy, BB and TDKR are closer together.


The first time I saw BB, I didn't think it sucked, but I thought it was fairly boring. My initial mind was that the movie could have used more Batman and more action/fight scenes.

When I saw it the 2nd+ time, my opinion changed. It had a very nice twist, and a great story about Batman along with it as well. Don't get me wrong though, I still pick TDK and TDKR over it, but it's pretty close and it easily triumphs over the previous Batman movies.

[TE]

Tdkr>bb>dk

imo

[Cant_Be_Faded]

believe it or not I really liked Banes voice. Two complete lines were indecipherable to me, but I found it really menacing. The modulation did its job in making Bane menacing as hell, and the accent was cool because it was like a crazy mixture of different accents
Plus it made his sound like an evil genius when he would go on talking to Gotham and Batman in philosophical and symbolic terms

[blkroadrunners]

Tdkr>bb>dk

imo

Nothing wrong with that, but I couldn't stand Scarecrow. Him and Two-Face were two of Nolan's flaws.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Bane's voice reminded me of a villain from the transformers cartoons.

That part where he saw the Batman emblem on fire and said, "...impossible" was straight up galvatron. It was funny to me but not funny enough to be cheap

[monosylab1k]

Batman put up a fight, but he was just clearly outmatched.

tbh i thought it was more that Bane was letting Batman hit him just to show he couldn't be hurt. He didn't block anything, it's more like he was toying with Batman. He would let him get a few hits in, then knock him down, then see if he would get back up. Each time he would knock him down a little harder till eventually he was cracking his mask and breaking his back. I think letting Batman hit him was just to give him that false hope that Bane loves to dish out. Which makes him even more badass imo.

[CubanSucks]

http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/484049_10151105535315289_258725467_n.jpg

:lmao too true unfortunately. Much better sig btw


That's some sick and perverted shit right there. Why would some one bring that in here?


Lefty with the sick bads :td

...yall serious? That was funny as hell

[Monostradamus]

So what's your top 5 DKT setpieces?

imo...

1. Car Chase/Semi Flip from TDK
2. Airplane Escape from TDKR
3. First Bane/Batman fight from TDKR
4. Bank Robbery from TDK
5. Rooftop Car Chase from BB

[redzero]

Bane was taunting Batman about how he got weaker due to winning against organized crime and retiring. Combine Batman getting weaker and Bane's resistance to pain because of the mask, an you have Bane not even flinching from Batman's punches.

[Monostradamus]

Bane was taunting Batman about how he got weaker due to winning against organized crime and retiring. Combine Batman getting weaker and Bane's resistance to pain because of the mask, an you have Bane not even flinching from Batman's punches.

Yeah I agree, I just think it wasn't so much Batman putting up a fight as it was Bane simply toying with him.

[CuckingFunt]

So what's your top 5 DKT setpieces?

imo...

1. Car Chase/Semi Flip from TDK
2. Airplane Escape from TDKR
3. First Bane/Batman fight from TDKR
4. Bank Robbery from TDK
5. Rooftop Car Chase from BB

I'd go with the same five, but in a different order.

1. First Bane/Batman fight
2. Bank robbery
3. Airplane escape
4. Chase/semi flip
5. Rooftop car chase

And for me the rooftop car chase is there primarily because it was the first time we got to see the Tumbler in action. Otherwise, I don't think action setpieces were Batman Begins' strong suit. Take out the surprise badassery of the Tumbler, and that spot probably goes to the big Batpod chase scene in TDKR (my obsession with the Batpod is a tad unhealthy, and I think the sound of the tires spinning around in a turn is second only to lightsabers in the world of awesome sound effects). Or maybe Shanghai, even though that loses a lot of its cool when not on a big screen.

[VBM]

http://i.imgur.com/Pgv1Y.jpg

Fake, but nice missing scene from the movie.

[redzero]

The Joker would be in Arkham Asylum.

After seeing all of these half-assed attempts to put the Joker into this movie, I'm glad that he wasn't in it at all.

[VBM]

The Joker would be in Arkham Asylum.

After seeing all of these half-assed attempts to put the Joker into this movie, I'm glad that he wasn't in it at all.

Yeah, hence the "fake" premise. He's a GOAT-quality villian though who translated well on screen. Even a cameo would have been cool.

[lefty]

The Joker would be in Arkham Asylum.

After seeing all of these half-assed attempts to put the Joker into this movie, I'm glad that he wasn't in it at all.
The Joker wouldnt be in Arkham

He would be in a high security federal prison

After all, he is a terrorist in TDK

[CubanSucks]

So what's your top 5 DKT setpieces?

imo...

1. Car Chase/Semi Flip from TDK
2. Airplane Escape from TDKR
3. First Bane/Batman fight from TDKR
4. Bank Robbery from TDK
5. Rooftop Car Chase from BB

The car chase in TDK is something I love more and more every time I see it. 30 years from now I think it'll be seen as the gem of the entire trilogy just like the Luke/Vader lightsaber fight for Star Wars.

when that quit music starts at :10 the tensity starts and then goes through the roof when you see the burning firetruck blocking the road. My favorite shot is 1:42 when the door opens and Joker is standing there with the lights flashing by. There's just something so boss about it for lack of a better word
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[lefty]

I like how the TDK chase scene and the 1st Bane/Batman fight in TDKR have no music


Great, "pure", action sequences

[lefty]

From The Dark Knight Rises: The Official Novelization

“Now that the Dent Act had made it all but impossible for the city’s criminals to cop an insanity plea, it (Blackgate Prison) had replaced Arkham Asylum as a preferred location for imprisoning both convicted and suspected felons. The worst of the worst were sent here, except for the Joker, who, rumor had it, was locked away as Arkham’s sole remaining inmate. Or perhaps he had escaped. Nobody was really sure. Not even Selina.”

[SA210]

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[stretch]

Just got back from seeing it a second time, and I enjoyed it even more, despite it being my favorite Batman movie already.

I came away with an even greater appreciation for Tom Hardy's performance as Bane. It was a little easier for me to notice small things this time, by not seeing the movie in IMAX. I sometimes get headaches from IMAX screens, simply being too big. But I noticed a lot more of his use of eyes and eyebrows, even in subtle ways that made a big difference. The only other thing he had were gestures, which he absolutely nailed IMO. I also loved the way he would grab the neck areas of his vest when he was faced with any sort of potential adversity. And when he put his hand on the shoulder of Daggett, and made his way to grabbing his face... absolutely brilliant.

I'm not going to say that Hardy's performance is superior to Ledger's Joker, but if someone said that, I wouldn't necessarily disagree with them. However, I will flat out say that I think Hardy's performance is more impressive than Ledger's considering he had 20% of his face, and a muzzle, as well as considerably less screen time to work with, yet still came away being equally, if not more menacing and terrifying than the Joker was. And it wasn't entirely because of his brute strength, but his speech was actually quite articulate, and he came across as being just as intelligent and cunning as the Joker was. In fact, basically the only difference between the two, is that Bane is far superior physically to Joker, but they are equally as intelligent and cold-blooded of killers.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Pretty much what I was saying

They do a great job of making bane sound smart as hell

How'd you not notice banes expressions on a bigaass imax screen

[stretch]

Pretty much what I was saying

They do a great job of making bane sound smart as hell

How'd you not notice banes expressions on a bigaass imax screen

Honestly I missed a lot because I constantly had to close my eyes for a few seconds at a time, or look away. We were a little too close to the screen, and I get headaches from stuff like that real easily. I noticed it some, but noticed a lot more of the subtle stuff on a normal screen this time.

[DPG21920]

So why go to the IMAX then?

[CuckingFunt]

I had intended earlier to comment on Hardy's performance as Bane (which, for the record, I think is equal to Ledger's as Joker, but to which I gravitate more since I tend to prefer subtlety), particularly the way he uses his body in the non-fight moments. His eyes, his gestures, all that.

In making this comment, I likely would have mentioned that those little things are what I like about Hardy in general. Particularly in smaller roles, like Eames in Inception, Handsome Bob in Rocknrolla, or Clarkie in Layer Cake, all of which focus considerably less on bombast than his lead roles have thus far.

But then I realized that most of this would likely seem to be fawning motivated by my already notorious lady boner for Tom Hardy, so I ditched the comment.

Which is a needlessly long way of saying "ditto."

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Sitting close to an imax would blow
I have to be at least 3/4 back

[stretch]

So why go to the IMAX then?

Hadn't been in years, wanted to see if it was any different this time around. Plus I knew I would see it more than once.

It's still real impressive to see on IMAX, and I would recommend it to anyone. But I just sometimes struggle with headaches.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Hardy's eyes were straight up "do not even try to fuck with me", it was awesome
I wonder if they used computer technology to enhance some of the nuances of his expressions

[stretch]

Sitting close to an imax would blow
I have to be at least 3/4 back

We were about 1/2 back. I wish I was 3/4 or farther. My neck was hurting from having to keep my head tilted slightly up, and it doesn't help that I have had neck problems ever since my wreck a few years ago.

It was still incredibly impressive to see on IMAX.

[stretch]

Hardy's eyes were straight up "do not even try to fuck with me", it was awesome

this

[DPG21920]

I wanted to see it in IMAX but they only had first row available.

I still want to see it with the theater that has D-BOX:

http://www.santikos.com/dbox.php

[CuckingFunt]

Hardy's eyes were straight up "do not even try to fuck with me", it was awesome
I wonder if they used computer technology to enhance some of the nuances of his expressions

Look at his eyes in Bronson. Or as Heathcliff in Wuthering Heights. The "do not even try to fuck with me" look is well within his range sans technology.

[MannyIsGod]

Wish I had an IMAX in this shitty state known as New Mexico. Can't wait to live in civilization again.

[Darth_Pelican]

The midnight premiere IMAX was sold out by the time I ordered tickets, so I had to settle for regular screening first time around. But I'm going to see it in IMAX thursday night. The screen size isn't as important to me as the superior sound that IMAX provides. It's loud as hell either way, but IMAX is more of a controlled noise and is easier to hear the talking during the loud scenes.

[mavs>spurs]

I wanted to see it in IMAX but they only had first row available.

I still want to see it with the theater that has D-BOX:

http://www.santikos.com/dbox.php

do they make booster seats for D-box? seems like if it tilted you forward, shorter people wouldn't be able to see over the guy in front of them.

[DPG21920]

Not sure, why?

[CubanSucks]

I think yalls hard-on for Bane has obviously taken too much blood from yalls brain. As great as he was he still only had half of the performance that Ledger's Joker had, meaning just the upper half of the face as opposed to the whole face. Through no falt of Hardy's, it's not even close imo. Take away the special muffled badass voice and I don't even think we'd be having this discussion

[redzero]

I don't know how somebody can say that Hardy wasn't great, especially after his speech in front of Blackgate.

[lefty]

Nobody is talking about the Gordon-Blake chemistry

I think Oldman and JGL were fantastic

[DPG21920]

The speech was good, but my two favorite pieces of dialogue from Bane were definitely the:

Other: "But I paid you a small fortune..."
Bane: " And you feel this gives you power over me"

and

Bane: "Using darkness as your ally? You merely adopted it. I was born in it...molded by it. I didnt see the light until I was already a man. By then it was nothing to me but blinding!! The shadows betray you because they belong to me!

[UZER]

My favorite Bane line was......"What a lovely, lovely voice."

Great delivery...so out of character yet 100% genuine.

[CubanSucks]

I don't know how somebody can say that Hardy wasn't great, especially after his speech in front of Blackgate.

Who's saying that? Definitely not me

[Tavaris Jackson]

My favorite Bane line was......"What a lovely, lovely voice."

Great delivery...so out of character yet 100% genuine.

When did he say that.

[CuckingFunt]

When did he say that.

When the little boy was singing the anthem.

Just as he was getting ready to blow up the tunnels, hijack the city, and kill Dr. Pavel in front of a horrified crowd.

[Cane]

Watched TDKR for the second time on another IMAX. Past couple of days also watched the rest of the trilogy and even Tim Burton's original. Bunch of random words will follow:

Surprisingly, Batman Begins holds up pretty well but watching it on a home theater projector screen probably helps (10 feet :) , helps with seeing how Gotham transformed) :hat . Burton's Batman has an entirely different pacing and feel, and while the action scenes are dated, is still an immersive comic book experience

Anyway I still am left thinking that TDKR is probably the worst of the bunch although they're all great, with TDK sitting at the top.

TDKR had too many lazy moments in its storytelling and unintentionally funny scenes that distracted it from climbing the list, like Pvt Joker's death. And while Nolan loves to have those last second reveals and Inception-ish flashbacks, I think he overdid it, and characters like Bane and especially Talia suffered from it. Even when they were showing what was going on, it felt more like telling us with those flashbacks. Also not a fan of Bane god damn crying at the end, only to pummel after hearing Talia

Overall as a trilogy story arc....it sucks that the Rachel actress changed and obviously sucks that the Joker died too. And it would have been nice if there was more Robin or Catwoman earlier in the trilogy, since developing those key characters felt a little shallow when you cram it in the third movie. Having to introduce new characters like Robin, Catwoman, Pvt Joker, and Talia, also meant less time to develop characters we've come to known like Gordon, Alfred, Fox, Scarecrow, even Bruce Wayne and Batman.

Also felt like there were too many monologues at least in the beginning

It also would have been very awesome to see Joker work alongside Bane and Talia. After all they would be the kind of criminals that Joker would appreciate.... RIP

Don't get me wrong, TDKR is still a great movie well worthy of three out of four stars

[DPG21920]

Only part I didn't like was the acting from all non-Bane people during the airplane scene. Thought the agent was terrible and didn't like the delivery of the "with no survivors line". Minor, minor gripe and the scene was cool, but the acting I thought was poor there from non-Bane actors.

[redzero]

Carcetti was tripping.

[CuckingFunt]

Carcetti is a pretty good actor. He just should never again be hired to do an American accent.

[Cane]

Also not a fan of Talia's twitching death at the end, or how the movie pulled off the "Et tu Brutus" moment. It was another unintentionally funny scene: specifically the close up on Batman's reaction to getting stabbed in the side/back

Having Bane cry and reveal his heart of black gold also was "meh". And Han Solo, aka Catwoman saving the day (seemingly all about money, wants the hero to leave, reluctantly heroic, comes in at the last second to save the day, settles down becomes a family person) just felt a little lazy

Still great movie but one that has me nitpicking a lot

[redzero]

Batman's reaction wasn't funny to me. Talia's death was.

[mingus]

Yeah, the twitching death was lame. But I liked the fact that Catwoman saves the day. She is my favorite Batman character. And IMO it went with her character. She regretted the way she treated Batman when she found out he was Bruce.

[CubanSucks]

Regarding the national anthem, I also loved that Bane line but as far as the kid's voice the awkwardness made it feel like a lifetime. His voice was SUPER over the top, especially considering there was no other sound but his voice. I even heard a few gigglers in the crowd as I expected when the singing first started



Could someone remind me of how Talia dies exactly? I'm having a brain fart

[mingus]

She dies from the impact of the cargo truck falling front first on the lower level of the highway.

[redzero]

I'm surprised she didn't die instantaneously. That was a rough crash.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Carcetti is a pretty good actor. He just should never again be hired to do an American accent.

He's a decent actor. But yes, his American accent is an insult to us citizens

[MannyIsGod]

http://i.imgur.com/Pgv1Y.jpg

Fake, but nice missing scene from the movie.

:lmao

What a terrible fake scene. Thank god its fake.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

I'm surprised she didn't die instantaneously. That was a rough crash.

This was an unrealistic aspect that really bothered me

If Nolan is all about realism her face and body should have been dilapidated
Thank God for the pg13 rating, I guess

[CubanSucks]

She dies from the impact of the cargo truck falling front first on the lower level of the highway.

That's what I thought but for some reason I just couldn't remember any twitching

[lefty]

Bale visited the injured Aurora victims in the hospital :tu

[mingus]

I think that twitching death might be a French thing. I have never seen that in American film. It took away from what was otherwise a great performance.

[lefty]

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/s480x480/559298_3761314784835_1975690321_n.jpg

[Cant_Be_Faded]

That still gives Spiderman too much credit

[ColinB]

Saw the midnight premiere last week. Good movie. Marion Cotillard has nice boobs.

[Jacob1983]

Christian Bale is a professional and a nice guy and yes that does fuckin' cut it.

[scanry]

Saw the midnight premiere last week. Good movie. Marion Cotillard has nice boobs.

I think she recently had a baby. Could actually tell because she was smoking in Inception.

[Texas_Ranger]

Saw it just now. I think it was pretty good. The only think I didn't like is how Bane died. It was kind of too quick. I'm gonna watch it again soon, but until then this is my 2nd best Batman, just after DK.

[leemajors]

I think that twitching death might be a French thing. I have never seen that in American film. It took away from what was otherwise a great performance.

Did you totally miss action movies in the 80s? That's the most egregious example I can think of, but it has been a staple of mediocre movies throughout American film history.

[johnsmith]

Did you totally miss action movies in the 80s? That's the most egregious example I can think of, but it has been a staple of mediocre movies throughout American film history.

Apollo Creed would be so mad at you right now.

[BUMP]

I'm surprised she didn't die instantaneously. That was a rough crash.

:lmao yeah that was pretty ridiculous.

:lol truck falling down onto a lower highway front first and her face somehow not being destroyed

[The Gemini Method]

Yeah, I didn't get that whole crash at the end--wouldn't Gordon have been a little banged up as well?

I know Nolan said this is it for the TDK Trilogy, but what was the purpose of having the allusion that there could still be story left to be told.

I saw it with the enhanced ETX sound/visual screen and it was far better than the migraine-inducing IMAX.

I rank this trilogy TDK (The blend of over-the-top psycho villain in Joker sold it for me)
TDKR (Bane and the metaphorical story of how one can always find light in the darkness and shadow of one's life was worthwhile). BB I can't remember anything about it as I will go back and watch the trilogy of Nolan's Batman.

[redzero]

I know Nolan said this is it for the TDK Trilogy, but what was the purpose of having the allusion that there could still be story left to be told.

It was done to show that the symbol of Batman would live on, with or without Bruce Wayne.

[da_suns_fan]

Yeah, I didn't get that whole crash at the end--wouldn't Gordon have been a little banged up as well?

I know Nolan said this is it for the TDK Trilogy, but what was the purpose of having the allusion that there could still be story left to be told.

I saw it with the enhanced ETX sound/visual screen and it was far better than the migraine-inducing IMAX.

I rank this trilogy TDK (The blend of over-the-top psycho villain in Joker sold it for me)
TDKR (Bane and the metaphorical story of how one can always find light in the darkness and shadow of one's life was worthwhile). BB I can't remember anything about it as I will go back and watch the trilogy of Nolan's Batman.

You dont remember anything from "Baman Begins" because it was a pretty boring film.

The plot holes you pointed out are prevalent in all Nolan films because hes a shitty writer. :lol

[UZER]

You dont remember anything from "Baman Begins" because it was a pretty boring film.

The plot holes you pointed out are prevalent in all Nolan films because hes a shitty writer. :lol

Plot holes exist in most movies, tbh. You have to give a little to enjoy them. If movies tried to be 100% accurate, especially movies with action scenes, they all wouldnt make it past the first 20 minutes.

[mingus]

You dont remember anything from "Baman Begins" because it was a pretty boring film.

The plot holes you pointed out are prevalent in all Nolan films because hes a shitty writer. :lol

I think BB is a great film. Second best of the trilogy to me.

As far as Nolan being a shitty writer, I haven't seen all of his movies, but I don't know how anyone can say he is. Memento, Inception and all three Batmans are examples of great writing to me.

[djohn2oo8]

Personally, I love what Nolan did with the Batman trilogy and hope it continues. I still can't erase from my mind just how BAD George Clooney and Val Kilmer were as Batman, and Chris O'Donnell was as Robin.

[CubanSucks]

I think BB is a great film. Second best of the trilogy to me.

As far as Nolan being a shitty writer, I haven't seen all of his movies, but I don't know how anyone can say he is. Memento, Inception and all three Batmans are examples of great writing to me.

+ The Prestige

looooooove it

[TheSanityAnnex]

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[Trainwreck2100]

my thoughts are that it's bullshit a Gotham City Rouges jersey is 200 bucks.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Why doesn't Mr Sinister ever comment on threads like these

[Proxy]

I think BB is a great film. Second best of the trilogy to me.

As far as Nolan being a shitty writer, I haven't seen all of his movies, but I don't know how anyone can say he is. Memento, Inception and all three Batmans are examples of great writing to me.

Godfather, Lord of the Rings, Star Wars... not better than any of those by a long shot

[johnsmith]

Godfather, Lord of the Rings, Star Wars... not better than any of those by a long shot

I'm in the minority, but I fucking hate Lord of the Rings. I'd put Batman way over that shit.

[stretch]

Godfather, Lord of the Rings, Star Wars... not better than any of those by a long shot

Godfather, understandable.

LOTR and Star Wars? Get the fuck out.

LOTR is such a pile of steaming goat shit, that you deserve to have your dick torn off, stuck in a meat grinder, and fed back to you for even putting it in the discussion.

Star Wars is a classic series, and I love them, but this is nostalgia talking right here. If you straight up released the exact same Star Wars movies today (or even with more up to date special effects), they wouldn't remotely be in the same discussion as Nolan's Batman trilogy. That's basically like saying Bill Russell would still be one of the best players in the NBA today... he was great for his time, and set a standard for his time, and was unique for his time... but today, he is pretty average in comparison to the other athletes the league has. He would still likely be a very solid player, but one of the best? Fuck no.

[Proxy]

First 2/3rds of the movie was great. The end was shit.

The female characters were a waste of screen time. Catwoman had no purpose or defining moment other than becoming Bruce's wife.

Ra's daughter was a complete gimmick for the sake of an empty shock-moment. Not only was it stupid, but it took all of Bane's awesome character and reduced him to nothing more than a bodyguard. The movie would've been great if the story had just kept Bane as the guy to be born and escape the prison and become the mastermind the story had us believe he was.

There are other things I could be picky about but these were the ones that really kept the movie from standing taller than DK

This being said... it was a great movie. A great superhero movie... still the best at taking on the serious/dark tone. Could've been better.

Wish it could've been rated R

[johnsmith]

Godfather, understandable.

LOTR and Star Wars? Get the fuck out.

LOTR is such a pile of steaming goat shit, that you deserve to have your dick torn off, stuck in a meat grinder, and fed back to you for even putting it in the discussion.

Star Wars is a classic series, and I love them, but this is nostalgia talking right here. If you straight up released the exact same Star Wars movies today (or even with more up to date special effects), they wouldn't remotely be in the same discussion as Nolan's Batman trilogy. That's basically like saying Bill Russell would still be one of the best players in the NBA today... he was great for his time, and set a standard for his time, and was unique for his time... but today, he is pretty average in comparison to the other athletes the league has. He would still likely be a very solid player, but one of the best? Fuck no.

I agree with you, but Star Wars to me still ranks as a better trilogy.....if the Batman movies stand the test of time like Star Wars has, then maybe.


Only the old Star Wars though, not the other three garbage ones.

[redzero]

but it took all of Bane's awesome character and reduced him to nothing more than a bodyguard.

Where are you getting this from? How do you know what kind of relationship they were having? What makes you think that she was calling all of the shots?

[silverblk mystix]

Are you guys like 13 years old?

[stretch]

I agree with you, but Star Wars to me still ranks as a better trilogy.....if the Batman movies stand the test of time like Star Wars has, then maybe.

Perhaps a more classic trilogy, only because Star Wars pretty much was a genre of its own... when it came out, there had never been anything like it, while Batman is a reboot.

In 20-30 years, Batman probably won't continue to be as popular as the original Star Wars trilogy was 20-30 years after they came out, but they are most definitely superior films to the Star Wars trilogy.

[johnsmith]

In 20-30 years, Batman probably won't continue to be as popular as the original Star Wars trilogy was 20-30 years after they came out, but they are most definitely superior films to the Star Wars trilogy.

I think you are right though, I think my love of Star Wars is just based out of nostalgia.

[Proxy]

Godfather, understandable.

LOTR and Star Wars? Get the fuck out.

LOTR is such a pile of steaming goat shit, that you deserve to have your dick torn off, stuck in a meat grinder, and fed back to you for even putting it in the discussion.

Star Wars is a classic series, and I love them, but this is nostalgia talking right here. If you straight up released the exact same Star Wars movies today (or even with more up to date special effects), they wouldn't remotely be in the same discussion as Nolan's Batman trilogy. That's basically like saying Bill Russell would still be one of the best players in the NBA today... he was great for his time, and set a standard for his time, and was unique for his time... but today he is pretty average in comparison to the other athletes the league has.

haha, what the fuck do you know to say LOTR is shit? If your opinion is that strong, I know there's bias in your opinion already.

...and just like Bill Russel, how do you manage to actually penalize something for existing in its time period? If Star Wars came out today, it wouldn't be the same thing. Neither would Blade Runner or of Logans Run. That's a weak argument if I ever saw one.

[Proxy]

Where are you getting this from? How do you know what kind of relationship they were having? What makes you think that she was calling all of the shots?

Ra's daughter is revealed... then Bane gets hit with a missil and poof.... there goes the main antagonist in a matter of one short scene. Now we get to see Batman chase this girl that no one cares about.

[redzero]

Ra's daughter is revealed... then Bane gets hit with a missil and poof.... there goes the main antagonist in a matter of one short scene. Now we get to see Batman chase this girl that no one cares about.

He already defeated Bane. The bomb was more important than another fist fight with Bane.

[Proxy]

in 20-30 years.... this Nolan trilogy will be remembered for Ledgar's Joker.

[stretch]

I think you are right though, I think my love of Star Wars is just based out of nostalgia.

I love Star Wars too, but will also be the first to admit that some of my love comes from nostalgia as well.


haha, what the fuck do you know to say LOTR is shit? If your opinion is that strong, I know there's bias in your opinion already.

Because its shit.

AxAEo3CWeq8

Nails it on the head.


...and just like Bill Russel, how do you manage to actually penalize something for existing in its time period? If Star Wars came out today, it wouldn't be the same thing. Neither would Blade Runner or of Logans Run. That's a weak argument if I ever saw one.

Which exactly is my point that it's greatness is fueled quite a bit by nostalgia. Is it a more classic trilogy? Absolutely. Are they a superior set of films than Batman? Hell no.

[stretch]

in 20-30 years.... this Nolan trilogy will be remembered for Ledgar's Joker.

Just like Star Wars is remembered for Darth Vader.

[TE]

:lol LOTR

[Proxy]

He already defeated Bane. The bomb was more important than another fist fight with Bane.

her revealing herself so suddenly and having Bane get back up to just get killed by a missil was just gimmick after gimmick. I mean... they just got out of a battlefield where everyone had guns. Batman just got out of the batwing. The intuitive writing that made the series standout just all disappeared at the end for that string of moments, I feel

[stretch]

her revealing herself so suddenly and having Bane get back up to just get killed by a missil was just gimmick after gimmick. I mean... they just got out of a battlefield where everyone had guns. Batman just got out of the batwing. The intuitive writing that made the series standout just all disappeared at the end for that string of moments, I feel

I agree I didn't like Bane getting killed like he did. I would have preferred seeing Batman beat him to a pulp, rip his mask off, and leave him to suffer.

[TE]

her revealing herself so suddenly and having Bane get back up to just get killed by a missil was just gimmick after gimmick. I mean... they just got out of a battlefield where everyone had guns. Batman just got out of the batwing. The intuitive writing that made the series standout just all disappeared at the end for that string of moments, I feel

Let's see director, what should have been done differently?

[redzero]

I would have preferred a close-up of Bane for a second or two after being shot. I can see why Nolan went the route of Bane being taken out by Catwoman, though.

[CubanSucks]

Because its shit.

AxAEo3CWeq8

Nails it on the head.

smh holy hell, you're an idiot. I love that movie and even that scene, funny as hell, but too bad the only characters walking to the mountain are Frodo, Sam, and Smeagol. Every other character is involved in other significant matters, mainly incredibly epic battles and fights. To say the movie is only people walking to the mountain to destroy the ring ignores at least 2/3 of the story

lmao "Nails it on the head"

shows you don't know what the fuck you're talking about

[redzero]

Yeah, I don't agree with that assessment of LOTR at all. There were plenty of gigantic fights.

[stretch]

I would have preferred a close-up of Bane for a second or two after being shot. I can see why Nolan went the route of Bane being taken out by Catwoman, though.

Additionally, the movie (and especially the end) was more about Batman getting "redemption" in the eyes of the public and saving Gotham in plain sight of everyone, as opposed to his fight with Bane and Talia. Even though I wanted to see more Bane in the movie, I understand the direction they went in.

[stretch]

smh holy hell, you're an idiot. I love that movie and even that scene, funny as hell, but too bad the only characters walking to the mountain are Frodo, Sam, and Smeagol. Every other character is involved in other significant matters, mainly incredibly epic battles and fights. To say the movie is only people walking to the mountain to destroy the ring ignores at least 2/3 of the story

lmao "Nails it on the head"

shows you don't know what the fuck you're talking about

:rollin

you must be puking right about now

[CubanSucks]

:rollin

you must be puking right about now

No, because my argument makes complete sense. If Kevin Smith wasn't such a little butthurt fanboy bitch he'd have that puking character say exactly what I said, but instead got his insults in with a copout defense by the puking character

[stretch]

:vomit:

[Proxy]

Let's see director, what should have been done differently?

Reveal Ra's daughter before this scene so that we still have a villain driving the truck.

Have the Batman/Bane fight go the same... but the way we see him begin to lose it and go ape shit once his mask gets damaged lasts long enough for Batman and Catwoman to have to work together for a final setup to where she blasts him with the missil. Have Bane say something pertaining to the bomb's eminent explosion and shit.... Builds relationship between Selena and Bruce for the kiss and end to have more weight.

that's the best I got. I'm not a professional writer. Just a critic like everyone else... which is easy. I'm being picky. The movie was great.

[mingus]

Godfather, Lord of the Rings, Star Wars... not better than any of those by a long shot

I haven't seen any of the LOTR.

I agree it isn't better than Star Wars, but I don't think it's by a long shot. And I don't think it is definitively better. Godfather III was so bad that the trilogy as a whole suffers. Godfather II is my favorite movie of all time though. It should've ended with that one.

[mingus]

in 20-30 years.... this Nolan trilogy will be remembered for Ledgar's Joker.

Not for me.

[da_suns_fan]

vbgLapRAloQ

[HI-FI]

I haven't seen any of the LOTR.

I agree it isn't better than Star Wars, but I don't think it's by a long shot. And I don't think it is definitively better. Godfather III was so bad that the trilogy as a whole suffers. Godfather II is my favorite movie of all time though. It should've ended with that one.

Godfather II is a great movie, I loved it even as a young kid more than part 1. I think Godfather III could have been special if Duvall would have been in it, they had a much better story if he returned.

I prefer Star Wars over any LOTR, except Fellowship, that one is perfect. I even like the prequels better than LOTR. LOTR is impressive for a variety of reasons, but the pacing kills me in those movies. So many scenes of slo motion and hobbits crying. the SW prequels are very flawed but I feel work better as a cinematic experience and have better pacing than LOTR, just my opinion of course.

and finally saw TDKR last night in glorious IMAX. loved the movie. it's either my second favorite or overall favorite. I need to see it again and give it more time, but I enjoyed the shit out of it.

[TE]

Reveal Ra's daughter before this scene so that we still have a villain driving the truck.

Have the Batman/Bane fight go the same... but the way we see him begin to lose it and go ape shit once his mask gets damaged lasts long enough for Batman and Catwoman to have to work together for a final setup to where she blasts him with the missil. Have Bane say something pertaining to the bomb's eminent explosion and shit.... Builds relationship between Selena and Bruce for the kiss and end to have more weight.

that's the best I got. I'm not a professional writer. Just a critic like everyone else... which is easy. I'm being picky. The movie was great.

Agree with both but I agree more with your second idea. Bane deserved the same humiliation he imparted onto batman. I would have loved to see batman monstrously and successfully rip off Bane's facial piece in anger.

[monosylab1k]

LOTR was okay, but ultimately i'm not a fan because each movie was around 3 hours long, but they each felt about 6 hours long, and the entire time i'm watching them i feel like i could be watching them on the fast forward setting and still not miss much.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

I liked LOTR, but never claimed it to be some life-altering spiritual experience like fanboys do for certain trilogies.
Part 1 blew though, part 2 and 3 made up for it

[CubanSucks]

This thread's giving me a brain aneurysm

[angelbelow]

Exceeded my expectations.. both as a fan of the comicbooks and Nolan's interpretation of the Batman universe.

[Jacob1983]

What are the predictions for weekend number 2 for TDKR? 70 to 90 million dollars?

[Darth_Pelican]

What are the predictions for weekend number 2 for TDKR? 70 to 90 million dollars?

I would say more than that. Look at the daily numbers this week so far. It made 50 million on Monday-Wednesday. The numbers aren't released for Thursday yet, but it proably did another 15 million. Once the weekend hits, it will probably do 20 million per night.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/daily/chart/

edit* I just noticed you said "weekend" number 2. I was assuming you meant the gross for the entire 2nd week.

[Death In June]

It was the weakest movie in the trilogy, though not by much. There were some obvious eye rolling moments, like the Robin reveal. It had some plot holes, much like each movie before it. My main complaint though was that it focused too much on shit that didn't matter. It's not called Mathew Modine Rises, bitch. More scenes of Bruce Wayne being Batman and less filler.

[leemajors]

I liked LOTR, but never claimed it to be some life-altering spiritual experience like fanboys do for certain trilogies.
Part 1 blew though, part 2 and 3 made up for it

3 was a mess and about an hour too long, although it did have its moments. surprised no one has bitched about the razing of the shire yet tbh.

[da_suns_fan]

Battle scenes in "The Two Towers" and "Return of the King" were more memorable than anything in Nolan's Batman films.

Ask someone on the street what "Batman Begins" was about. Who was the villain, how did he die/not-die etc.

Likewise, ask someone how Batman defeated the Joker and/or Two-face in "The Dark Knight". They wont have a fucking clue.

[stretch]

It was the weakest movie in the trilogy, though not by much. There were some obvious eye rolling moments, like the Robin reveal. It had some plot holes, much like each movie before it. My main complaint though was that it focused too much on shit that didn't matter. It's not called Mathew Modine Rises, bitch. More scenes of Bruce Wayne being Batman and less filler.

I think Modine's roll did matter. It set the tone that some people were still bitter over Batman "killing" Harvey Dent and many others (which obviously was a lie), and were so retarded that they would focus on capturing him, instead of Bane and his crew.

It also made Batman's "sacrifice" more powerful, that he would be willing to die for people who have hated and hunted him, to save their lives.

If you don't like how that went, that's entirely up to you. But I don't think it was "shit that didn't matter" by any means.

[stretch]

Battle scenes in "The Two Towers" and "Return of the King" were more memorable than anything in Nolan's Batman films.

Ask someone on the street what "Batman Begins" was about. Who was the villain, how did he die/not-die etc.

Likewise, ask someone how Batman defeated the Joker and/or Two-face in "The Dark Knight". They wont have a fucking clue.

retarded :rolleyes

im pretty sure more average joes on the street know who batman is, as opposed to frodo or the other queers from LOTR

[InK]

retarded :rolleyes

im pretty sure more average joes on the street know who batman is, as opposed to frodo or the other queers from LOTR

Yes and its all thanks to Nolan. Like someone knew what Batman was before this trilogy

[redzero]

Battle scenes in "The Two Towers" and "Return of the King" were more memorable than anything in Nolan's Batman films.

Ask someone on the street what "Batman Begins" was about. Who was the villain, how did he die/not-die etc.

Likewise, ask someone how Batman defeated the Joker and/or Two-face in "The Dark Knight". They wont have a fucking clue.

What a stupid point. Do you honestly expect a member of the general public to be able to explain how The Two Towers ended or how Return of The King ended?

[Trainwreck2100]

3 was a mess and about an hour too long, although it did have its moments. surprised no one has bitched about the razing of the shire yet tbh.
3 suffered some from ending the two towers at helm's deep, and giving the spider time in the third movie. The scouring of the shire would have added another hour to that long ass movie.

[da_suns_fan]

retarded :rolleyes

im pretty sure more average joes on the street know who batman is, as opposed to frodo or the other queers from LOTR

Douche bag,

I said ask them who the villain in "Batman Begin" was and how they were defeated. Likewise, ask them how Batman defeated the Joker and/or two-face in "The Dark Knight".

They wont have a clue.

[da_suns_fan]

What a stupid point. Do you honestly expect a member of the general public to be able to explain how The Two Towers ended or how Return of The King ended?

:lol

Um..YES. Ive seen it ONCE and I remember. They defeated the orc army using the green ghosts that Vigo Mor-whatever summoned. Then Frodo pushed Gollem into the lava to destroy the ring.

The End.

[redzero]

Wow. You cannot be this stupid. I said the general public, not you. I can tell you what happened at the end of several movies. Does this mean that some random guy on the street will be able to, too?

[da_suns_fan]

Wow. You cannot be this stupid. I said the general public, not you. I can tell you what happened at the end of several movies. Does this mean that some random guy on the street will be able to, too?

Im part of the general public and Im not a huge LOTR fan.

So yes, I would completely expect anyone who has SEEN "Return of the King" to know how it ended.

For the life of me, I cant remember how "Batman Begins" ended. The only way I know that the scarecrow lived is because he had a cameo in the second one. I have no idea if Liam Neeson died or not. Dont remember.

[redzero]

So? You are not everybody. Just because you don't remember something doesn't mean anything. You have no point.

[da_suns_fan]

So? You are not everybody. Just because you don't remember something doesn't mean anything. You have no point.

:lol:lol

Ask anyone.

[redzero]

:lol still no point

[Texas_Ranger]

wtf? how can't you remember how BB ended?... I watched that movie just once when it came out and I can still remember almost everything that happened in the movie... And I was 14 when I saw it. Your memory pretty much sucks...

[da_suns_fan]

:lol still no point

Youre REALLY bad at this.

My point is these films are completely forgettable (which you havent refuted), so its absurd to compare them to other famous trilogies.

I sure as hell remember how Star Wars, The GodFather, Raiders of the Lost Ark and Back To The Future all ended.

[redzero]

YOU think the films are forgettable. Don't project your feelings of them onto everybody else. You are bad at this.

[da_suns_fan]

YOU think the films are forgettable. Don't project your feelings of them onto everybody else. You are bad at this.

Like i said, ask someone how batman begins ended.

Ask someone how "the dark knight" ended.

See for yourself.

[redzero]

:lol still no point

[da_suns_fan]

:lol still no point

Youre too clueless to understand. Youre young, huh?

If something isnt memorable, then it couldnt have been that great. If something isnt great, then it shouldnt be mentioned as "greatest of all time".

So that is the point. You still wont understand but I thought I should explain it one more time.

[redzero]

You are really this stupid. YOU are claiming that they aren't memorable. You do not speak for everybody. You are projecting.

[da_suns_fan]

You are really this stupid. YOU are claiming that they aren't memorable. You do not speak for everybody. You are projecting.

Ive said several times that if you dont believe ME, ask someone else you know. Im pretty confident the 90% of public wont remember how batman begins ended.

The reason being that it was BORING.

You remember, dont you? Heres a test. Explain to me how Batman Begins ended and try not to make it boring.

Example: Stars Wars ended when Han and Luke blow up the death star before it blows them up.

Raiders ended by opening the ark and those foolish enough to view the spirits melted to death (or something).

See? Now you try with batman begins! Tell me how it ended! How did the scarecrow die? How did Liam Neeson die? :lol

[stretch]

Yes and its all thanks to Nolan. Like someone knew what Batman was before this trilogy

Just like its all thanks to Peter Jackson that anyone knows about LOTR, because they most certainly weren't a popular set of novels well before the movies were created.

[stretch]

They wont have a clue.

Remember your apostrophe's, motherfucker.

[leemajors]

3 suffered some from ending the two towers at helm's deep, and giving the spider time in the third movie. The scouring of the shire would have added another hour to that long ass movie.

Yeah, good point. but it is one of the more common complaints among die hard book fans that I have heard

[da_suns_fan]

Remember your apostrophe's, motherfucker.

Same challenge to you "Hardy did such a great job grabbing his vest"

Tell me how Batman Begins ended! Try not to make it sound fucking boring!!

You can still slob Tom Hardy's knob if you want, though! I know how much you loved his use of "eyebrows and eyes". :lol

[stretch]

:lol I just asked my 12 and 10 year old nephews, and they haven't seen the movie in years, and they remembered that Ra's Al Ghul died in the train collapsing.

[da_suns_fan]

The first batman film ended when someone named "Ra's Al Ghul" died when a train collapsed?!!!

Thank you for making my point for me, stretch.

[redzero]

:lol changing your point

[stretch]

Same challenge to you "Hardy did such a great job grabbing his vest"

Tell me how Batman Begins ended! Try not to make it sound fucking boring!!

You can still slob Tom Hardy's knob if you want, though! I know how much you loved his use of "eyebrows and eyes". :lol

Batman Begins ended with Batman saving Gotham by having a 20 story tall monorail system destroyed, resulting in a train with a massive microwave emission system collapsing and exploding.

[stretch]

The first batman film ended when someone named "Ra's Al Ghul" died when a train collapsed?!!!

Thank you for making my point for me, stretch.

No, you said for us to ask random people what happened to the villain. My nephews knew.

Congratulations, a 12 and 10 year old have a better mental capacity than you :clap

[da_suns_fan]

:lol changing your point

I dont know if stretch is lying or not, but his summation of the ending explains why its so forgettable.

The ending of the first batman film was when someone Ive never heard of died from a train collapsing.

No wonder its so completely forgettable.

I just asked a co-worker sitting across the aisle.

He didnt remember anything. He also thought the joker died in the second one. I told him he didnt and he was surprised.

So if you dont believe me, ask someone.

[redzero]

:lol thinking that you are proving something with your laughably small sample size

[da_suns_fan]

Batman Begins ended with Batman saving Gotham by having a 20 story tall monorail system destroyed, resulting in a train with a massive microwave emission system collapsing and exploding.

:sleep:sleep:sleep:sleep:sleep:sleep:sleep:sleep:s leep:sleep

LOL...a TWENTY STORY tall monorail!! :lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol

Nice try, stretch! But even you cant make it sound interesting!

Twenty stories tall!!!:lol

[stretch]

The ending of the first batman film was when someone Ive never heard of died from a train collapsing.

You literally just posted moments ago, about Liam Neeson, and not knowing his outcome. Regardless, you knew of his character. Now suddenly you don't even know that Liam Neeson was in the movie?

You are so full of shit, it's actually awesome.

[stretch]

:sleep:sleep:sleep:sleep:sleep:sleep:sleep:sleep:s leep:sleep

LOL...a TWENTY STORY tall monorail!! :lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol

Nice try, stretch! But even you cant make it sound interesting!

Twenty stories tall!!!:lol

http://www.monorails.org/webpix%202/FilmGothamMonorail1.jpg

You're right.

20 stories might have been an understatement. Looks pretty tall to me.

[redzero]

:lol "try to convince me that the movie I find boring isn't boring"

[da_suns_fan]

:lol thinking that you are proving something with your laughably small sample size

Im confident 90% wont have a clue about the "20 story" monorail or who the hell "Rhaul la garab" or whoever was.

[da_suns_fan]

http://www.monorails.org/webpix%202/FilmGothamMonorail1.jpg

You're right.

20 stories might have been an understatement. Looks pretty tall to me.

You should have just admitted the film was boring rather than try to spin with how many "stories tall" the MONORAIL system was. :lol

[redzero]

Im confident 90%

Absolutely meaningless. Are you going to survey the general public about the ending? No.

[BUMP]

http://www.monorails.org/webpix%202/FilmGothamMonorail1.jpg

You're right.

20 stories might have been an understatement. Looks pretty tall to me.

sup bro

I'd like to give you a stinky pinky if your down. Just don't forget the mayonnaise

[stretch]

Im confident 90% wont have a clue about the "20 story" monorail or who the hell "Rhaul la garab" or whoever was.

Regardless, you are the one who talked yourself into such a hole.

You are the one talking about how shitty the movies are, then proceed to say Spiderman trilogy > Batman trilogy by posting ratings from Rotten Tomatoes, only for those exact ratings to say Batman > Spiderman, and then in addition to that, the lowest score of any of them was 85%, for Batman Begins, which is actually a very good score for Rotten Tomatoes, so in the end, you pretty much just gave high props to the Batman movies through your "facts" that you pulled up.

Fucking moron.

[da_suns_fan]

Absolutely meaningless. Are you going to survey the general public about the ending? No.

I dont have to. Stretch just proved my point with his description of the ending.

How did Terminator end? Sarrah Connor smashed the terminator in the elevator.

How did "The Last crusade end"? Indiana Jones chose the cup of christ and saved his father.

How did "Empire Strikes back" end? Darth Vader revealed to Luke that he was his father.

How did " The Dark Knight end?"....um...no clue. Did the joker die? Who knows. Did Harvey dent die? Who cares?

Try again! Tell me how the Dark Knight ended!

[da_suns_fan]

Regardless, you are the one who talked yourself into such a hole.

You are the one talking about how shitty the movies are, then proceed to say Spiderman trilogy > Batman trilogy by posting ratings from Rotten Tomatoes, only for those exact ratings to say Batman > Spiderman, and then in addition to that, the lowest score of any of them was 85%, for Batman Begins, which is actually a very good score for Rotten Tomatoes, so in the end, you pretty much just gave high props to the Batman movies through your "facts" that you pulled up.

Fucking moron.

I didnt say Spiderman was better than Batman. When did I say that?

Please quote where i said that or admit that youre a fucking idiot! :lol

[stretch]

How did Terminator end? Sarrah Connor smashed the terminator in the elevator.

How did "The Last crusade end"? Indiana Jones chose the cup of christ and saved his father.

How did "Empire Strikes back" end? Darth Vader revealed to Luke that he was his father.

all of these sound boring as fuck

[redzero]

:lmao He didn't prove your point. You thought the ending was boring anyway.
:lol moving the goalposts

[stretch]

I didnt say Spiderman was better than Batman. When did I say that?

Please quote where i said that or admit that youre a fucking idiot! :lol

In the Favorite Trilogy thread, we have this...


The Sam Raimi movies aren't as well regarded as the Nolan movies. Another stupid point by you.


Rotten-Tomatoes:

Spiderman: 89%

Spiderman 2: 93%

Spiderman 3: 63%


Batman Begins:85 %

Dark Knight: 94%

Dark Knight Rises: 87%


So when you replied to RedZero's post by posting RT ratings, what exactly was your goal? To prove that Batman > Spiderman?

:rolleyes

[da_suns_fan]

And my point was that the first two spiderman films were just as well received and made just as money as the first two batman films. The third one was a let down, but they could make just as good a case about "best trilogy" as Nolanites can for "TDK".

Maybe even better considering Raimi didnt make Spiderman a fucking idiot and the subject of endless parody videos the way Nolan did with Batman.

[stretch]

How did " The Dark Knight end?"....um...no clue. Did the joker die? Who knows.

Way to talk yourself in circles once again, when you just a few posts ago stated how you told your co-worker that the Joker did not die, yet here you try to claim you don't know.

:toast

[da_suns_fan]

In the Favorite Trilogy thread, we have this...






So when you replied to RedZero's post by posting RT ratings, what exactly was your goal? To prove that Batman > Spiderman?

:rolleyes

Couldnt find the quote, huh! :lol

Now admit youre a fucking idiot!

[stretch]

Maybe even better considering Raimi didnt make Spiderman a fucking idiot and the subject of endless parody videos the way Nolan did with Batman.

Right.

Is that why everyone that saw the trilogy has a lasting image of Peter Parker being an emo faggot, walking through town wearing black makeup and flipping his hair out of his eyes?

[stretch]

Couldnt find the quote, huh! :lol

Now admit youre a fucking idiot!

The fucking idiot is the one who replies to a post that Batman > Spiderman in the eyes of the general public, then posts ratings that are supposed to be the best indicator of the general public's opnion, only to back up his point that Batman > Spiderman in the eyes of the general public.

[redzero]

Spider-Man - 7.4
Spider-Man 2 - 7.5
Spider-Man 3 - 6.3

Batman Begins - 8.3
The Dark Knight - 8.9
The Dark Knight Rises - 9.1

I can use ratings from movie websites, too.

[da_suns_fan]

Way to talk yourself in circles once again, when you just a few posts ago stated how you told your co-worker that the Joker did not die, yet here you try to claim you don't know.

:toast

I read a lot about the possibility of Joker having a cameo in the third one, implying that he must have lived. I also saw a cartoon in THIS THREAD showing a "deleted" scene of joker being released form prison.

I dont remember how the joker "lived" or "died".

[stretch]

I read a lot about the possibility of Joker having a cameo in the third one, implying that he must have lived. I also saw a cartoon in THIS THREAD showing a "deleted" scene of joker being released form prison.

I dont remember how the joker "lived" or "died".

ROFL okay

[redzero]

:lol He's too stupid to read the part of the post saying that the deleted scene was fake, so nobody knows what happened at the end of The Dark Knight.

[stretch]

Both must be taken with a grain of salt, but RottenTomatoes is a better indicator of a film's overall reception, without the overwhelming influence of fanboys.


Very true.

So you then admit that the RT rating of Batman is a solid indicator of the film's overall perception, and that your opinion isn't as widely held as you try to suggest it is?

[da_suns_fan]

The fucking idiot is the one who replies to a post that Batman > Spiderman in the eyes of the general public, then posts ratings that are supposed to be the best indicator of the general public's opnion, only to back up his point that Batman > Spiderman in the eyes of the general public.

Didnt say that though, did I? :lol

I posted those scores to show how comparable they were to each other.

The first spiderman did better than the first batman. The second respective films had nearly identical ratings (94 to 93).

The third batman did better than the third spiderman, but my point that spiderman fans could make just as good a case for "Best trilogy" as batman films is valid. Both trilogies were well received by critics and were box office successes.

Nolanites get upset at that idea because.....theyre total douches.

[da_suns_fan]

ROFL okay

Seriously...tell me how the dark knight ended.

Remember: Try not to make it boring!

[da_suns_fan]

be sure to include how the joker lived/died

[redzero]

Didnt say that though, did I? :lol

I posted those scores to show how comparable they were to each other.

The first spiderman did better than the first batman. The second respective films had nearly identical ratings (94 to 93).

The third batman did better than the third spiderman, but my point that spiderman fans could make just as good a case for "Best trilogy" as batman films is valid. Both trilogies were well received by critics and were box office successes.

Nolanites get upset at that idea because.....theyre total douches.

Here's a scenario:

10 people watched Movie A and thought it was merely decent.
10 people watched Movie B. 9 loved it and one didn't like it.

Would it be true to say that Movie A was better received?

[stretch]

Didnt say that though, did I? :lol

I posted those scores to show how comparable they were to each other.

The first spiderman did better than the first batman. The second respective films had nearly identical ratings (94 to 93).

The third batman did better than the third spiderman, but my point that spiderman fans could make just as good a case for "Best trilogy" as batman films is valid. Both trilogies were well received by critics and were box office successes.

Nolanites get upset at that idea because.....theyre total douches.

Personally, I loved the Batman movies before even knowing who Christopher Nolan was. I didn't know who he was until after seeing Inception. Then I went back and saw Insomnia and Memento, both of which are very good films BTW.

Some of me wonders whether you really view these movies as being as shitty as you suggest, or you just don't like fanboys, and bullshit half the time just to argue with fanboys, much like people do with Kobe fanboys, and try to say "Kobe sucks, I'd rather have Tony Parker or Monta Ellis", or "Kobe isn't even a top 30 player of all time", when they know that they are completely full of shit. Sounds more like your issue is with fanboys than anything, which is understandable... but doesn't justify your complete fucking retardation, nor the fact that you are a king at talking yourself in circles, getting cornered, then trying to resort to either lies or weak-sauce insults like grammar smack.

Or, simply put... you are a faggot.

[stretch]

Seriously...tell me how the dark knight ended.

Remember: Try not to make it boring!


be sure to include how the joker lived/died

You already know what happens. So why continue bullshitting?

[da_suns_fan]

:lol He's too stupid to read the part of the post saying that the deleted scene was fake, so nobody knows what happened at the end of The Dark Knight.

This just confirmed that you MUST be young. Under 20 im guessing.

Why would ANYONE make a "fake deleted scene" showing a character who died in the previous film?

No one would believe it was real.

THINK before you post.

[stretch]

This just confirmed that you MUST be young. Under 20 im guessing.

Why would ANYONE make a "fake deleted scene" showing a character died in the previous film?

No one would believe it was real.

THINK before you post.

:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin

[da_suns_fan]

You already know what happens. So why continue bullshitting?

Cmon!! Prove me wrong!

Tell me how the joker lived/died!!

Tell me how Harvey Dent lived/died!

I HONESTLY dont remember. Give me your narrative!

Dont make it boring!! :nope:nope:nope

[stretch]

Ignorance is fucking bliss.

[redzero]

This just confirmed that you MUST be young. Under 20 im guessing.

Why would ANYONE make a "fake deleted scene" showing a character died in the previous film?

No one would believe it was real.

THINK before you post.

The character didn't die in the previous movie, retard. The scene was made because the guy who did it wanted show how he would have incorporated the character into the new movie.

It's not that hard.

[da_suns_fan]

:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin

You must be as clueless as he is.

It makes no sense to draw a fake deleted scene showing a character who died in the previous film. No one would believe it was real if that character as already dead.

[benefactor]

DSF with the gun c:lolntr:loll bads and now this.

[monosylab1k]

Like i said, ask someone how batman begins ended.

Ask someone how "the dark knight" ended.

See for yourself.

I just did, they knew. Your point is shit.

[stretch]

The character didn't die in the previous movie, retard. The scene was made because the guy who did it wanted show how he would have incorporated the character into the new movie.

It's not that hard.

*gasp*

joker didn't die? I had no idea, since me being a part of the general public means that I don't know how any of the Batman movies end.

[da_suns_fan]

The character didn't die in the previous movie, retard. The scene was made because the guy who did it wanted show how he would have incorporated the character into the new movie.

It's not that hard.


THAT. IS. MY. POINT.

That is how I knew the joker didnt die because NO ONE would make a fake "deleted scene" with a character who was already dead!!!


THINK!

[redzero]

You must be as clueless as he is.

It makes no sense to draw a fake deleted scene showing a character who died in the previous film. No one would believe it was real if that character as already dead.

:lmao He wasn't trying to trick anybody. It's fake in the sense that it wasn't officially in the movie's script.

[da_suns_fan]

I just did, they knew. Your point is shit.

Another butt-hurt nolanite!!!

Stretch and Monos! :lol:lol

[da_suns_fan]

:lmao He wasn't trying to trick anybody. It's fake in the sense that it wasn't officially in the movie's script.

You still dont get it and youre embarrassing yourself.

No one would make a "fake deleted" scene with a character who was already dead. Whoever drew the cartoon was trying to FOOL people. But he wouldnt be able to fool anyone if showed a character that EVERYONE knew was already dead.

Youre seriously a moron. Again, youre young huh?

[redzero]

I dont remember how the joker "lived" or "died".

That is how I knew the joker didnt die

:rollin what a retarded piece of shit

[redzero]

You still dont get it and youre embarrassing yourself.

No one would make a "fake deleted" scene with a character who was already dead. Whoever drew the cartoon was trying to FOOL people. But he wouldnt be able to fool anyone if showed a character that EVERYONE knew was already dead.

Youre seriously a moron. Again, youre young huh?
:lmao How the fuck do you know that the author was trying to fool people?

[da_suns_fan]

:rollin what a retarded piece of shit

I didnt know how the he died from watching the film. Didnt remember.

The cartoon conveyed that the Joker is still alive in the "Nolan" batman world.

I shouldnt have to explain this to you, but I did.

[stretch]

You still dont get it and youre embarrassing yourself.

No one would make a "fake deleted" scene with a character who was already dead. Whoever drew the cartoon was trying to FOOL people. But he wouldnt be able to fool anyone if showed a character that EVERYONE knew was already dead.

Youre seriously a moron. Again, youre young huh?

It appears the general public thinks you are the serious moron here. It most certainly must be 100% correct in your mind as well, since the general public's opinion means so much to you.

[CubanSucks]

fuck this shit I take a nap and there's like 50 new posts itt

bottom line, Return of the King was NOT a mess and balanced multiple stories perfectly, Peter Jackson discriminated perfectly over what to include and what not to include from the book, and all 3 Batman movies are more memorable than every other comic book movie

[redzero]

:lmao He was confused about whether the character lived or died, but he knew that the character didn't die.

[da_suns_fan]

:lmao How the fuck do you know that the author was trying to fool people?

You just dont get it.

The cartoon conveys that the joker is still alive. Whether it was a real or fake deleted scene, it would only be valid if the joker was still alive.

Seriously, youre an idiot. Youre just NOT SMART.

[da_suns_fan]

It appears the general public thinks you are the serious moron here. It most certainly must be 100% correct in your mind as well, since the general public's opinion means so much to you.

:lol:lol

Cmon Stretch!

Tell me how it ended!!!

I want you to use the same descriptive language you used describing Hardy's "Bane" performance! Tell us all about eyebrows and grabbing vests...make it sound good!

[redzero]

You just dont get it.

The cartoon conveys that the joker is still alive. Whether it was a real or fake deleted scene, it would only be valid if the joker was still alive.

Seriously, youre an idiot. Youre just NOT SMART.

Then why would you say that you didn't know whether he lived or died?

[monosylab1k]

DSF once bragged about his Arizona State education in the same thread where he got intellectually bukkaked by a high schooler. Just so everyone understands the obtuse cuntholery they're dealing with.

[da_suns_fan]

Oh..and the general public here is from texas, so Ive never concerned myself about that.

I just like pointing out to Nolanites that the guy's films are shit.

And your description of "Batman Begins" proved my point.

[da_suns_fan]

Then why would you say that you didn't know whether he lived or died?

Because I didnt remember from watching the film (as most people probably didnt). That cartoon told me he must still be alive. I also read about possible Joker cameos so that told me he must have lived.

I still dont remember how he "lived". I remember him blowing himself out of jail...thats about it. The third act of "TDK" was un-needed "Two-face" garbage.

[stretch]

DSF once bragged about his Arizona State education in the same thread where he got intellectually bukkaked by a high schooler. Just so everyone understands the obtuse cuntholery they're dealing with.

That was Mr. Bottomtooth, right? rofl classic

[monosylab1k]

Oh..and the general public here is from texas, so Ive never concerned myself about that.

I just like pointing out to Nolanites that the guy's films are shit.

And your description of "Batman Begins" proved my point.

:tu congratulations! Go beat off long and hard over this!

[da_suns_fan]

delete...double post.

[redzero]

:lmao "Describe the ending of the movie that I hate to try to get me to like it. You can't? Thank you for proving my point!"

:lol This guy is a complete idiot.

[da_suns_fan]

DSF once bragged about his Arizona State education in the same thread where he got intellectually bukkaked by a high schooler. Just so everyone understands the obtuse cuntholery they're dealing with.

I have a Masters degree from there too now.

But the "bukkaeked by a high schooler" thing..you'll have to provide more detail.

Oh..and my ASU education was enough to expose that you changed a quote form "07 seconds or less".

I still have the link if you want it. :lol

[redzero]

:lmao "Describe the ending of the movie that I hate to try to get me to like it. You can't? Thank you for proving my point!"

:lol This guy is a complete idiot.

[da_suns_fan]

:tu congratulations! Go beat off long and hard over this!

:lol:lol

VICTORY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :lobt2::lobt2::lobt2::lobt2::lobt2:

[gaKNOW!blee]

I read like the last 5 pages of this thread and I have no idea what you guys are arguing about lol.

Someone care to fill me in?

[redzero]

Because I didnt remember from watching the film (as most people probably didnt). That cartoon told me he must still be alive. I also read about possible Joker cameos so that told me he must have lived.

I still dont remember how he "lived". I remember him blowing himself out of jail...thats about it. The third act of "TDK" was un-needed "Two-face" garbage.

Then you contradicted yourself, moron. You claimed that you didn't know whether he lived or died, then you claimed that you knew that he was alive. You're an idiot.

[stretch]

Oh..and the general public here is from texas, so Ive never concerned myself about that.

Interesting, since I literally just googled "best state for education" and this was the 1st link that popped up...

http://www.statemaster.com/graph/edu_bes_edu_ind-education-best-educated-index

Guess which state came in at #50 out of 50? Arizona.

[da_suns_fan]

:lmao "Describe the ending of the movie that I hate to try to get me to like it. You can't? Thank you for proving my point!"

:lol This guy is a complete idiot.

If YOU like it, you should be able to tell me why.

But you guys chicken out. You know its pretty hard to describe the ending of each Nolan film without them sounding ridiculously stupid!

"Rhal Garul Akim dies in a train collapsing!"

But it was a 20 story monorail!!! With microwaves!

[monosylab1k]

I have a Masters degree from there too now.

But the "bukkaeked by a high schooler" thing..you'll have to provide more detail.

Oh..and my ASU education was enough to expose that you changed a quote form "07 seconds or less".

I still have the link if you want it. :lol

:lol of course you don't remember. Seems like your memory gets real fuzzy anytime you get your ass reamed on this site :lmao

[stretch]

delete...double post.

so why didn't you leave the initial post?

you sure you didn't just post some dumb bullshit like usual, and just try to cover it up with saying it was a double post?

[da_suns_fan]

Then you contradicted yourself, moron. You claimed that you didn't know whether he lived or died, then you claimed that you knew that he was alive. You're an idiot.

No..i said i didnt know if joker lived or died until i read some "cameo" stuff plus i saw that cartoon so that told me he must have lived.

[da_suns_fan]

so why didn't you leave the initial post?

you sure you didn't just post some dumb bullshit like usual, and just try to cover it up with saying it was a double post?

Nope..server bogged down...it was THIS:


I have a Masters degree from there too now.

But the "bukkaeked by a high schooler" thing..you'll have to provide more detail.

Oh..and my ASU education was enough to expose that you changed a quote form "07 seconds or less".

I still have the link if you want it.

[redzero]

If YOU like it, you should be able to tell me why.

But you guys chicken out. You know its pretty hard to describe the ending of each Nolan film without them sounding ridiculously stupid!

"Rhal Garul Akim dies in a train collapsing!"

But it was a 20 story monorail!!! With microwaves!

:lol changing your demands from "describe the ending" to "describe why you liked the ending"
:lol claiming that you didn't remember whether the Joker lived or died, them claiming that you knew The Joker didn't die

[da_suns_fan]

I read like the last 5 pages of this thread and I have no idea what you guys are arguing about lol.

Someone care to fill me in?

Sure...im convincing Nolanites that the first two batman films are forgettable using their own descriptions of the respective endings.


So far we have the ending of the first film was "Rhauul Kabaludfs dies in a train collapsing".

They wont tell me how the second one ends.

Maybe they dont remember either!! :lol

[Landon Donofag]

http://www.abload.de/img/220px-bbrotj6sa2p.jpg


SPOILERS



http://www.abload.de/img/joker_deathm2yic.png

[stretch]

Nope..server bogged down...it was THIS:

I call bullshit, since the posts appeared 3 minutes apart.

[redzero]

:lmao thinking that you are convincing people not to like something just by bashing it
:lol terrible arguments

[Leetonidas]

Saw batman, was good.

[da_suns_fan]

:lol changing your demands from "describe the ending" to "describe why you liked the ending"
:lol claiming that you didn't remember whether the Joker lived or died, them claiming that you knew The Joker didn't die

Do either, bro. Describe to me the ending or tell me why you liked it.

Im convinced most non-nolanites who saw the film dont remember. Or maybe even have false memories like "the joker died" because the respective endings were such total fuck-ups.

When did the batman foil the jokers plot? I remember the two ferries deciding not to blow each other up (which gets about a hundred :rolleyes:rolleyes:rolleyes).

Remember in Burton's batman where batman used the batwing to pull the poisonous balloons away?

KF8yxerAtZM

[stretch]

Saw batman, was good.

According to DSF, since you liked it, your opinion is shit. The general public's opinion only consists of people who didn't like it. If you liked it, you are not a part of the general public.

[gaKNOW!blee]

Sure...im convincing Nolanites that the first two batman films are forgettable using their own descriptions of the respective endings.


So far we have the ending of the first film was "Rhauul Kabaludfs dies in a train collapsing".

They wont tell me how the second one ends.

Maybe they dont remember either!! :lol

I thought the first batman was good not great, but TDK is one of the most successful movies of all time. I'm not really sure what your argument could be?

It ends with the joker being detained by SWAT and batman saving gordons son from dent...who died after the fall. Then batman runs from the police.