chick fil a appreciation day!

[ElNono]

It got crookskanks to go out AND eat chicken... that gotta count for something, right?

[Jacob1983]

Nope. It's just fuckin' sad and pathetic that people care more about stupid Chick Fil A and the whole gay people are stupid thing than charity work and volunteering.


I mean seriously, who the fuck cares what the CEO of Chick Fil A thinks? Move the fuck on.

[Wild Cobra]

Nope. It's just fuckin' sad and pathetic that people care more about stupid Chick Fil A and the whole gay people are stupid thing than charity work and volunteering.


I mean seriously, who the fuck cares what the CEO of Chick Fil A thinks? Move the fuck on.
Give them a break. It's the highlight of their day!

[Jacob1983]

I just don't get it. How is the homosexual movement/cause advanced by having homosexuals kiss each other in public at a shitty fast food place? How does that help them get access to legal documents, benefits, tax breaks, and handouts from Uncle Sam?
How does wasting money at a shitty fast food place and bitching about freedom of speech help spread the teachings of Jesus Christ?


Get over this shit and go help someone that actually needs some damn help. Both sides of this controversy are selfish and arrogant in my opinion.

[Woo Bum-kon]

Crookshanks, are you pro-slavery?

[Clipper Nation]

This whole so-called controversy has become a joke. The boss of shitty Chick Fil A gave an opinion of marriage in some interview and people want to make a fuckin federal case about it and have a war over it.

That's not entirely what the controversy is about, B.....

[Blake]

^ wonder how crookskans is gonna spin that one

as soon as he started talking about how CFA doesn't discriminate against the gays, God got the angel of death warming up in the bullpen.

[Yonivore]

as soon as he started talking about how CFA doesn't discriminate against the gays, God got the angel of death warming up in the bullpen.
They don't discriminate in their employment or customer services practices.

[ElNono]

as soon as he started talking about how CFA doesn't discriminate against the gays, God got the angel of death warming up in the bullpen.

But Ellen Degeneres is still alive! How could it be?!?!?!

[ElNono]

Nope. It's just fuckin' sad and pathetic that people care more about stupid Chick Fil A and the whole gay people are stupid thing than charity work and volunteering.

I mean seriously, who the fuck cares what the CEO of Chick Fil A thinks? Move the fuck on.

Looks like you really care about all these sad and pathetic people...

[CosmicCowboy]

Ignoring the batshit stupidity of the above comment...

Breeder =/= straight, anymore.

I am quite aware that breeder = straight.

And you might want to have your humor/sarcasm meter checked.

It appears to be malfunctioning.

[TE]

I am quite aware that breeder = straight.

And you might want to have your humor/sarcasm meter checked.

It appears to be malfunctioning.

:tu :lol

[Yonivore]

Jackass Chick-fil-A protester tries his hand at an apology, and fails...


nmP9Shki6_I

...instead, Rachel [the Chick-fil-A employee] gets whine and a lecture.

[jack sommerset]

The Bible says that man shall not lie with man as he does with a women. This could be a loophole. If a gay man never slept with a women......just saying


At the end of the day, your concious will tell you what is right and wrong. God will be the judge in the end. God bless

[jack sommerset]

I am quite aware that breeder = straight.

And you might want to have your humor/sarcasm meter checked.

It appears to be malfunctioning.

I don't know if it ever worked. God bless

[wut]

Jackass Chick-fil-A protester tries his hand at an apology, and fails...


nmP9Shki6_I

...instead, Rachel [the Chick-fil-A employee] gets whine and a lecture.
Yeh I'm with you, while he is geniunely sorry, he still comes across as an asshole who "feels" like he has to do the right thing, because after all, '...just so you know....I'm a nice guy."

There are proper forums to discuss your opinions...in a fast food line should not be one of them.

This guy does nothing to dispel the stereotype that leftists are intolerant of views outside their own, and that they feel like their point of view is not only right but fulfilling.

[Yonivore]

Nice postscript on the Chick-fil-A nonsense:

A blogger over at the GayPatriot.com (A conservative gay blog) posted hist observation, compared and contrasted Wednesday and Friday at a Hollywood Chick-fil-A:

Business brisk at Hollywood Chick-fil-A (http://www.gaypatriot.net/2012/08/01/business-brisk-at-hollywood-chick-fil-a/)

But, at the bottom, he linked to a story out of Alabama where an apparently well-known gay YouTuber (I'd never heard of him) defended Chick-fil-A.

Antoine Dodson supports Chick-fil-A on appreciation day, gets chicken sandwich (updated with video) (http://blog.al.com/breaking/2012/08/antoine_dodson_supports_chick-.html)


Dodson released a video last week in wake of the uproar over statements made by Chick-fil-A President Dan Cathy saying he supported the Biblical definition of marriage -- which is one man, one woman.
He's actually released two and I'm not sure which was first so, I'll post both:


LUmoTOujJ7Q
Just don't ask him about the waffle fries! :lmao


zkODT83SI38


He repeated that stance today just before ordering a spicy chicken sandwich with cheese and waffle fries. Dodson stood in a smaller line than the one at noon today that stretched out the door on Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day, which called for people who supported the company's position to cater the business today.

"I'm here for supporting the employees," Dodson said. "The gay community is fighting against Chick-fil-A but they're not thinking about where this leaves the employees. So I'm here to be in support of the employees and I'm also coming to get that spicy chicken sandwich."

As for Dodson's stance on gay marriage?

"I never really thought about getting married," he said. "I've been so focused on my career. I never have time to think about marriage. I'm not going to say I'm against it or I'm for it. If it happens, it happens."

[Yonivore]

Yeh I'm with you, while he is geniunely sorry, he still comes across as an asshole who "feels" like he has to do the right thing, because after all, '...just so you know....I'm a nice guy."
I was reminded of that line from Forest Gump:


Jenny! Things got a little out of hand. It’s just this war and that lying son of a bitch Johnson and…"


There are proper forums to discuss your opinions...in a fast food line should not be one of them.
Actually, Wednesday's waits, in line to order, were the perfect forum for discussing our opinions. I had a great conversation with a guy that was there to support Cathy and his views. I shared that I was there because of the fascism represented in Mayors Emanuel's and Menino's government threats.

He hadn't even considered that angle, even though it was precisely the outrage over those actions that prompted Huckabee to call for the Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day.


This guy does nothing to dispel the stereotype that leftists are intolerant of views outside their own, and that they feel like their point of view is not only right but fulfilling.
At some point, stereotypes cease being stereotypes and, well, just represent who are a certain group of people.

[George Gervin's Afro]

yoni and right wing blogs..lol what would he do without them?

[ploto]

After a long discussion with someone yesterday, I came to realize why this is all not such a big deal to me. I have never equated the word marriage with a religious institution. I keep hearing about how they are redefining marriage, and people somehow think they are changing what it means, but to me that is not the word I use to describe the religious ceremony nor the spiritual commitment.

When did the word marriage come to mean a religious commitment? People get married at the courthouse. Judges precide at marriage ceremonies. Atheists get married everyday. So why all the hoopla? The person with whom I was talking surprisingly told me she has no problem with any two people having a legal contract that provides them the same rights as any other couple. She does not even care if it is two straight people who are friends and live together. She just does not want to allow the use of the word marriage. But I have never seen anyone get all worked up when two atheists go downtown and get married.

In many countries, a religious ceremony does not even make you legally married. You have to go get married at the civil authorities first, and then if you have a religious ceremony that is up to you. These countries only recognize the civil union.

[Yonivore]

yoni and right wing blogs..lol what would he do without them?
I'm not sure of Dodson's political persuasion but, I saw his YouTube at a Conservative blog operated by gay Republicans.

I guess I don't get your point? What would any of us do without the sources by which we choose to inform ourselves?

I wouldn't know about the activities at Chick-fil-A on Wednesday or Friday and, I probably wouldn't be aware of Dodson's views, either.

[ElNono]

Yoni siding with abominations... nothing new there...

[CitizenDwayne]

This whole thing will go down as a sad little chapter in the nation's history. If anyone remembers it at all

[ElNono]

This whole thing will go down as a sad little chapter in the nation's history. If anyone remembers it at all

Agree.

[LnGrrrR]

Nice postscript on the Chick-fil-A nonsense:

A blogger over at the GayPatriot.com (A conservative gay blog) posted hist observation, compared and contrasted Wednesday and Friday at a Hollywood Chick-fil-A:

Business brisk at Hollywood Chick-fil-A (http://www.gaypatriot.net/2012/08/01/business-brisk-at-hollywood-chick-fil-a/)

But, at the bottom, he linked to a story out of Alabama where an apparently well-known gay YouTuber (I'd never heard of him) defended Chick-fil-A.

Antoine Dodson supports Chick-fil-A on appreciation day, gets chicken sandwich (updated with video) (http://blog.al.com/breaking/2012/08/antoine_dodson_supports_chick-.html)


He's actually released two and I'm not sure which was first so, I'll post both:


LUmoTOujJ7Q
Just don't ask him about the waffle fries! :lmao


zkODT83SI38

:lol Antoine Dodson! I can't wait for the new remix of this material.

[Yonivore]

:lol Antoine Dodson! I can't wait for the new remix of this material.
Oh wait! Is he the "Hide yo' wife, hide yo' kids," guy? Okay, I do know who he is.

[jack sommerset]

I'd say the gay kissing protest was a huge fail. God bless

"About 14,400 people had expressed their support on a Facebook page dedicated to Friday's protest, a tally dwarfed by those who went to Facebook to back Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day."

"Two dozen protesters turned out in the afternoon at a Chick-fil-A location in suburban Atlanta. At least one couple shared a kiss for the assembled media."

http://www.cnn.com/2012/08/03/us/chick-fil-a-kiss-day/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

[LnGrrrR]

Oh wait! Is he the "Hide yo' wife, hide yo' kids," guy? Okay, I do know who he is.

Yes he is. :)

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Who killed him I wonder?
What if god killed him?

[Yonivore]

Yes he is. :)
The guy is funny. :tu

[Yonivore]

What if god killed him?
Someone on the tolerant left called it Karma.

http://twitter.com/JoeHerkenstein/status/228999932303011840

[ElNono]

What's karma? Is that another one of those magical god creations?

[Yonivore]

How fitting.

The protest campaign that drew that idiot Adam Smith to his local Chick-fil-A was the brain-child of some lady named Jackson Pierce. She posted a video that proposes protesters approach Chick-fil-A and ask for a free large cup of water. Her rationale is drawn from the Bible, the book of Proverbs, Chapter 5, Verse 21 which says, “If your enemy is hungry, give him food to eat; if he is thirsty, give him water to drink.”

Here's the video:


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Here is a transcript of the relevant part:


There’s this Bible passage, Proverbs 25:21: “If your enemy is hungry, give him food to eat; if he is thirsty, give him water to drink.” So if you are not a fan of Chick-fil-A’s stance on hate, on August 1st I suggest you go there and ask for a large water. If they say that you need to order something, cite Proverbs 25:21. I mean, technically, if they’re operating on “Biblical principles,” they should give you an entire combo meal if your stomach growls, but let’s keep it simple. Just ask for a large water and nothing else. If they give it to you, then you just got a few pennies of their profit and less money goes to their hate foundations. And if they don’t, then I guess they’re not even operating under their perverted version of “Biblical.”

If you do this, by the way, please videotape it and load it to YouTube, and I’ll put it as a response in this video…
Remember how the Adam Smith douchebag was all giddy about "free water?" I guess this is to what he was referring. I think he even confirms in his apology lecture that is was from this Pierce lady's YouTube he got the idea.

Maybe all concerned should have read a bit further...

Proverbs, Chapter 25, Verse 22 (Yeah, the very next verse.):

"In doing this, you will heap burning coals on his head, and the Lord will reward you."

:lmao

[ElNono]

Jackson Pierce appreciates your help spreading her video. Ron bless.

[Yonivore]

Jackson Pierce appreciates your help spreading her video. Ron bless.
Hey, ignorance and stupidity are entertaining. She and Adam Smith are proof of that.

I doubt my mocking her will cause the video to get many more hits than it's already enjoyed.

[ElNono]

Hey, ignorance and stupidity are entertaining.

You would know, you grace us with both all the time.


I doubt my mocking her will cause the video to get many more hits than it's already enjoyed.

Nobody has to read your post to count as an extra link to the video. That's how popularity is measured on the interwebs.

[Yonivore]

More video of the protesters...

Mocking and bullying a homeless street preacher. Nice.


x8G4jI3VI8U

[Yonivore]

Nobody has to read your post to count as an extra link to the video. That's how popularity is measured on the interwebs.
I'm supposed care because...?

[ElNono]

I'm supposed care because...?

Did I say you're supposed to care....?

[Yonivore]

Did I say you're supposed to care....?
You're right, you just quote me and say shit, ostensibly in response, just to be doing it. I think I've finally got the message.

[ElNono]

You're right, you just quote me and say shit, ostensibly in response, just to be doing it. I think I've finally got the message.

I can only post. Whoever wants to care, cares.

[Yonivore]

I can only post. Whoever wants to care, cares.
No, I get it. You only post -- you're not interested in a conversation. My mistake for trying to engage you.

You're the internet equivalent of the guy who just talks to hear himself talk.

[ElNono]

No, I get it. You only post -- you're not interested in a conversation. My mistake for trying to engage you.

You're the internet equivalent of the guy who just talks to hear himself talk.

Yeah, I've seen that guy... he posts stuff like this all the time:



How fitting.

The protest campaign that drew that idiot Adam Smith to his local Chick-fil-A was the brain-child of some lady named Jackson Pierce. She posted a video that proposes protesters approach Chick-fil-A and ask for a free large cup of water. Her rationale is drawn from the Bible, the book of Proverbs, Chapter 5, Verse 21 which says, “If your enemy is hungry, give him food to eat; if he is thirsty, give him water to drink.”

Here's the video:


JprRWKQys7A

Here is a transcript of the relevant part:


Remember how the Adam Smith douchebag was all giddy about "free water?" I guess this is to what he was referring. I think he even confirms in his apology lecture that is was from this Pierce lady's YouTube he got the idea.

Maybe all concerned should have read a bit further...

Proverbs, Chapter 25, Verse 22 (Yeah, the very next verse.):

"In doing this, you will heap burning coals on his head, and the Lord will reward you."

:lmao

[Yonivore]

Yeah, I've seen that guy... he posts stuff like this all the time:
A) It wasn't in response to anyone, B) it was intended to encourage an exchange, and C) it was germane to the thread content.

Not exactly meeting your criteria of just posting and not caring.

I think we're done here unless, of course, you'd like to discuss the idiocy of the Proverbs-inspired protesters.

[ElNono]

You're the internet equivalent of the guy who just talks to hear himself talk.


A) It wasn't in response to anyone

Criteria met

[Yonivore]

Criteria met
Unfortunately, there was a B and C in that sentence. Fail. We're done, ankle-biting troll. Whatever gave Kori the idea to make you an un-ignorable moderator, I'll never know.

[ElNono]

Unfortunately, there was a B and C in that sentence.

And?

:lol you accusing anybody of only hearing themselves

[Yonivore]

And?
What's the purpose of this forum?

I thought it was a place for political discussion.

You seem to think it's a place to just post stuff and not care if anyone cares.


:lol you accusing anybody of only hearing themselves
I wasn't accusing, you admitted it. I simply acknowledged you and have, since, tried to move on. But, you're apparently not done yanking at the heel of my shoe.

[ElNono]

You seem to think it's a place to just post stuff and not care if anyone cares.

That's describes of 75% of your threads. Bravo!


I wasn't accusing, you admitted it. I simply acknowledged you and have, since, tried to move on. But, you're apparently not done yanking at the heel of my shoe.

I'm not forcing you to respond. Feel free to end this conversation whenever you please. lol

[Yonivore]

That's describes of 75% of your threads. Bravo!
I wondered so, I just did a search of all the threads started by you and I. Apparently, the search will only produce the most recent 300 and we both reached that mark.

Of your 300, 41 reached "hot topic" status or 13.7% (13.666% for Obama fans).

Of my 300, 60 reached that status or 20.0% (20.000% for Obama fans).

I'll let that speak for itself while you continue in your role as self appointed arbiter of what is or isn't pointless. Bravo!


I'm not forcing you to respond. Feel free to end this conversation whenever you please. lol
You're right, again! What are the odds? As long as you entertain, I'll continue.

[Yonivore]

And, I did that in less than half the number of posts you've managed to slap into SpursTalk.com

[ElNono]

I wondered so, I just did a search of all the threads started by you and I. Apparently, the search will only produce the most recent 300 and we both reached that mark.

Of your 300, 41 reached "hot topic" status or 13.7% (13.666% for Obama fans).

Of my 300, 60 reached that status or 20.0% (20.000% for Obama fans).


:lol that's because I don't start partisan, ankle-biter threads like you do. Troll/semi-troll threads almost always end up being "hot topic". After all, the Obama-Antichrist thread was probably the hottest thread this forum has seen.

Heck, I bet boutons has more "hot topic" threads than you and I combined.

My thread starting in the political forum is hardly ever partisan. Unlike you, I don't carry water for a team, so I don't really have to start a new thread for the latest chain email topic.


I'll let that speak for itself while you continue in your role as self appointed arbiter of what is or isn't pointless. Bravo!

That's pretty rich coming from the guy that just arbitrarily decided what's the criteria for what makes a pointless thread or not! :lol


And, I did that in less than half the number of posts you've managed to slap into SpursTalk.com

Which really is the difference between you and me. I'm here all the time, your volume spamming happens mostly during election time.

[Yonivore]

Which really is the difference between you and me. I'm here all the time, your volume spamming happens mostly during election time.
You ankle-bite year round?

Who would have thought political discussion would peak around election time?

[Yonivore]

Where was I? Oh yeah!

More video of the protesters...

Mocking and bullying a homeless street preacher. Nice.


x8G4jI3VI8U

[ElNono]

You ankle-bite year round?

IIRC, you're pretty much the first and only calling me an ankle-biter here (I might be leaving out WC here, but then again he's a lot like you except for the spam).

I'm very far from being the first and only calling you a partisan waterboy.


Who would have thought my chain email inbox would peak around election time?

Fixed it.

Outside the increased spamming from you the last few weeks, the thread creation rate in the political forum have been pretty much the same as always.

I'm just letting you know since, well, you're normally not around much outside election time.

[AFBlue]

Is this thing still going on? I went by at 9PM and it took me like 15 minutes to get my chicken sammich. Hopefully this appreciation thing dies down because their service is terrible right now...even with the "my pleasure" bit.

[Stringer_Bell]

I'm really digging the whole "let's show mass support of Chick-Fil-A's stance against the homo-gays" instead of using the platform to get people to support more positive causes like donating to food banks, mentoring/ministering to at risk youth, and rallying for pro-life causes such as the abolition of the death penalty. I'm especially proud, as a cannabalistic Christian that eats the flesh of my Savior and drinks of His blood, that Chick-Fil-A can continue to serve a delicious alternative to the red meat fast-food chains that rally under Rainbow Flags.

And please don't get me wrong, I'm NOT saying it's at all obvious to the whole country that white people/Christians are more concerned with mass organizing to keep a white man/Christian's business going instead of aiding the poor/sick. Cuz that's totally not what I'm saying. At all.

[DMX7]

You ankle-bite year round?


lol, talk about the pot calling the kettle black.

[Th'Pusher]

Lol @ yoni's emotional tailspin in this thread.

[Th'Pusher]

I wondered so, I just did a search of all the threads started by you and I. Apparently, the search will only produce the most recent 300 and we both reached that mark.

Of your 300, 41 reached "hot topic" status or 13.7% (13.666% for Obama fans).

Of my 300, 60 reached that status or 20.0% (20.000% for Obama fans).

I'll let that speak for itself while you continue in your role as self appointed arbiter of what is or isn't pointless. Bravo!


You're right, again! What are the odds? As long as you entertain, I'll continue.

:lol st statistics

[Jacob1983]

http://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/xf.DipTAuI1kn4S_hkEhHw--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7cT04NTt3PTMxMA--/http://media.zenfs.com/en/blogs/thelookout/chick-fil-a-kiss-in-chicago.jpg




What did they win? Was there a contest or something? Honestly, "kiss ins" or whatever the fuck you want to call it are really sad, immature, and pathetic ways to get attention from people.



I thought homos wanted to be able to marry their man or woman and get benefits, handouts, and tax breaks from Uncle Sam, not go to Chick Fil A and kiss and display themselves for everyone to see?


The whole thing is a fuckin' joke. It's even more pathetic that anyone is even talking about this shit. I know that I am talking about it so I'm guilty of it. Everyone should just look away and ignore this shit. People care more about Chick Fil A and it's so-called hate war toward homos than the poor, the sick, the hungry, and the rest of the less fortunate.

What does that say about humanity that more people currently are spending more time talking about Chick Fil A than helping people that actually need it? We are fucked up beings.

[Trainwreck2100]

I wondered so, I just did a search of all the threads started by you and I. Apparently, the search will only produce the most recent 300 and we both reached that mark.

Of your 300, 41 reached "hot topic" status or 13.7% (13.666% for Obama fans).

Of my 300, 60 reached that status or 20.0% (20.000% for Obama fans).

I'll let that speak for itself while you continue in your role as self appointed arbiter of what is or isn't pointless. Bravo!



thats flawed as fuck most of the posts in your threads are you

[Yonivore]

lol, talk about the pot calling the kettle black.
I don't think you or ElNono understand the meaning of the term "ankle-biter."

I'm not the one that follows either of you around, hectoring your every post. It's quite the opposite. In fact, I'm not sure I've ever even cared enough about what either of you have said to enter into a thread and comment on any of either your initial posts; but, if I have, it wasn't to personally attack either of you.

Ankle-biter: people who criticize a position but offer no constructive alternative.

That's pretty much all ElNono has done in this thread -- and others. He's up there with ChumpDumper in vying to be my personal troll.

[SnakeBoy]

1 minute mark

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[Yonivore]

IIRC, you're pretty much the first and only calling me an ankle-biter here (I might be leaving out WC here, but then again he's a lot like you except for the spam).
Maybe that's because you don't troll anyone else.


I'm very far from being the first and only calling you a partisan waterboy.
Just because you, or others, can't make a compelling argument that changes my mind on certain issues doesn't make me a "partisan waterboy."


Fixed it.

Outside the increased spamming from you the last few weeks, the thread creation rate in the political forum have been pretty much the same as always.

I'm just letting you know since, well, you're normally not around much outside election time.
I seriously don't understand your fixation on the amount of posting I do. And, it's election time in a political forum; an uptick might be expected.

[Yonivore]

1 minute mark

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Probably one of the largest one-day protests in history -- or, at least for quite some time -- and, it's not a protest. Got it.

[Trainwreck2100]

Probably one of the largest one-day protests in history -- or, at least for quite some time -- and, it's not a protest. Got it.

it wasnt a protest, who protests something they appreciate?

[Yonivore]

it wasnt a protest, who protests something they appreciate?
It was a protest, in support of Chick-fil-A, against government bullying. The opposite of a boycott - I think they dubbed it a "buycott."

[Th'Pusher]

It was a protest, in support of Chick-fil-A, against government bullying. The opposite of a boycott - I think they dubbed it a "buycott."

Exempt people were not "buycotting" against government bullying. I realize that is the spin you would like to put on it, but the reality is, these were largely evangelical Christians " buycotting" in support of traditional marriage and against gay marriage.

[Yonivore]

Exempt people were not "buycotting" against government bullying. I realize that is the spin you would like to put on it, but the reality is, these were largely evangelical Christians " buycotting" in support of traditional marriage and against gay marriage.
That's not why I was "buycotting." And, if you'll just stop and think for a minute, you'll understand why you're mistaken.

Gay activist groups boycott all sorts of businesses and, in fact, had called for a boycott of Chick-fil-A back in June when they got jacked up over a local franchise of Chick-fil-A providing food for an event sponsored by an organization gays have called a hate group.

It wasn't until the Mayors of Chicago and Boston (later joined by a few other government officials) threatened to withhold government services, to keep Chick-fil-A out of their cities, that anyone mentioned organizing the "Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day" buycott.

You can call it spin but, while many of those that participated may share Dan Cathy's view on same-sex marriage and homosexuality (I don't), many more of us are just sick and tired of the bullying tactics of Democrat politicians.

[Th'Pusher]

That's not why I was "buycotting." And, if you'll just stop and think for a minute, you'll understand why you're mistaken.

Gay activist groups boycott all sorts of businesses and, in fact, had called for a boycott of Chick-fil-A back in June when they got jacked up over a local franchise of Chick-fil-A providing food for an event sponsored by an organization gays have called a hate group.

It wasn't until the Mayors of Chicago and Boston (later joined by a few other government officials) threatened to withhold government services, to keep Chick-fil-A out of their cities, that anyone mentioned organizing the "Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day" buycott.

You can call it spin but, while many of those that participated may share Dan Cathy's view on same-sex marriage and homosexuality (I don't), many more of us are just sick and tired of the bullying tactics of Democrat politicians.

So you actually weathered those lines last Wednesday to "buycott" the federal government's bullying? :toast

I don't think I am mistaken. The protest was called for by the evangelical Mike Huckabee so he could suck up the spotlight for a few minutes, get some press for his Fox program and rabble-rouse the religious right. He did and they showed up in droves.

Obviously we'll never know the intentions of the protesters. You say you were protesting the bullying of Democrat politicians while everyone I know participated because they wanted to show solidarity with Dan Cathy and because Mike Huckabee told them it would be a good idea.

[Yonivore]

So you actually weathered those lines last Wednesday to "buycott" the federal government's bullying? :toast
Yep. For three meals.


I don't think I am mistaken. The protest was called for by the evangelical Mike Huckabee so he could suck up the spotlight for a few minutes, get some press for his Fox program and rabble-rouse the religious right. He did and they showed up in droves.
As I said, even though I don't share Cathy's view on homosexuality or same-sex marriage, Mike Huckabee's call for the "Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day," made last Monday, was framed as a call to stand up to Mayors Emanuel and Menino and their attempt to violate both Cathy's 1st amendment rights to free speech, free association, and free expression of his religion and, 14th amendment right to equal protection, under the law.

To be sure, Huckabee shares Cathy's view on homosexuality and same-sex marriage and, I doubt he would have called for a buycott of a business that, say, shares the views of gay rights activists but, that's not who was being threatened by the government, was it?


Obviously we'll never know the intentions of the protesters. You say you were protesting the bullying of Democrat politicians while everyone I know participated because they wanted to show solidarity with Dan Cathy and because Mike Huckabee told them it would be a good idea.
Well, you know mine and, with the time I spent in line with others, it was the most prevalent reason for why they were there, as well.

And, on another note, it's been mentioned that our time would have been better spent volunteering at a soup kitchen or some other charitable cause, instead of at Chick-fil-A. Well, of everyone I saw at Chick-fil-A that day, that I personally knew (and, it was about 5 or 6 families), we are all actively involved in our church or other civic organizations and charitable groups...it's from those pursuits that we even know each other.

[DMX7]

Yep. For three meals.


HAHA, what a fucking tool.

[ChumpDumper]

Good meltdown from yoni. :tu

[boutons_deux]

Cathy's 1st amendment rights to free speech

Yoni parroting the totally false talking point that reacting to Cathy's completely free and defended hate speech was a 1st Amendment violation. He's free to speak, and his opposition is free to boycott/hurt/challenge his hate speech.

[ElNono]

I don't think you or ElNono understand the meaning of the term "ankle-biter."

I'm not the one that follows either of you around, hectoring your every post. It's quite the opposite. In fact, I'm not sure I've ever even cared enough about what either of you have said to enter into a thread and comment on any of either your initial posts; but, if I have, it wasn't to personally attack either of you.

:lol thinking I follow you or anybody around.

This is a public forum, and everybody, including you and me, get to choose when to post and what to post. Nobody have to like it or agree with it. And everybody can express their agreement or disagreement.

It's patently clear that what really bothers you is that you're unable to silence my posts. You have to deal with the criticism, and apparently that's something a pampered boy like you don't want to hear.

But frankly, after gracing us time and again with your fake outrage, I couldn't care less if poor Yoni's feelings are hurt.


Ankle-biter: people who criticize a position but offer no constructive alternative.

That's pretty much all ElNono has done in this thread -- and others. He's up there with ChumpDumper in vying to be my personal troll.

In this thread...

ElNono posts not addressed to Yoni: 41
ElNono posts addressed to Yoni: 12

This is actually a great example of a thread that had fairly solid discussion for the first 20 pages until somebody started to spam it with "ankle-biter" (I'm using your definition above) posts.


Maybe that's because you don't troll anyone else.

Funny, I though the troll was you. I guess everyone has their own idea of what is a troll.


Just because you, or others, can't make a compelling argument that changes my mind on certain issues doesn't make me a "partisan waterboy."

:lol that's like saying somebody is trying to change bouton's mind. When it comes to partisan hackery, you're up there with the best of them. Much like boutons, I doubt anybody here is really trying to change your mind.

BTW, I didn't come up with the "carrying water for the team" term nor the only one that noticed that's exactly what you do.


I seriously don't understand your fixation on the amount of posting I do. And, it's election time in a political forum; an uptick might be expected.

I don't have a fixation, I simply have an opinion, which I expressed quite clearly: you post a whole lot of partisan garbage, a lot of which is a compendium of blogs posts, chain emails and youtubes that merely carries water for your team.

You're free to keep posting such garbage, I'm free to keep expressing that opinion.

[Yonivore]

What a fucking idiot!


qxpF7DaeC1A
:lmao

[baseline bum]

Yes. Would be icky if straight or gay. But I hate gratuitous PDA.

Not bad when it's GG tbh.

[Clipper Nation]

I thought homos wanted to be able to marry their man or woman and get benefits, handouts, and tax breaks from Uncle Sam, not go to Chick Fil A and kiss and display themselves for everyone to see?
They're equally entitled to public displays of affection as straight couples, are they not?

[Yonivore]

They're equally entitled to public displays of affection as straight couples, are they not?
Yes; they are, insofar as they -- as well as heterosexual couples -- don't create a disturbance with their public display of affection.

I'd say there's a difference between exchanging an affectionate kiss, hug, or caress while on someone else's property, in the course of conducting whatever other business you're there to do and standing in front of the register swapping spit with your partner (homo- or heterosexual) for the purpose of trying to elicit a response.

As expected, it appears Chick-fil-A handled Friday's Kiss In, as apparently pitiful as it was, with the Christian grace.

[Yonivore]

Anybody know how the "Starbucks Appreciation Day" went, today?

[Jacob1983]

They're equally entitled to public displays of affection as straight couples, are they not?

No. I will tell you why. PDA is rude and annoying to others. It doesn't matter if it's a man and a woman or two flaming homos kissing each other or holding each other. I don't want to see that shit in public. It's weird to be honest. It's weird because it comes off as if people are insecure about their affection for their mate so they feel they have to prove it in front of others.

[Yonivore]

No. I will tell you why. PDA is rude and annoying to others. It doesn't matter if it's a man and a woman or two flaming homos kissing each other or holding each other. I don't want to see that shit in public. It's weird to be honest. It's weird because it comes off as if people are insecure about their affection for their mate so they feel they have to prove it in front of others.
Which makes them equally entitled. You're arguing the propriety of public displays of affection.

[DisAsTerBot]

No. I will tell you why. PDA is rude and annoying to others. It doesn't matter if it's a man and a woman or two flaming homos kissing each other or holding each other. I don't want to see that shit in public. It's weird to be honest. It's weird because it comes off as if people are insecure about their affection for their mate so they feel they have to prove it in front of others.

:rollin
so you hate it and it's "weird" and you see it as them being insecure?!?!
:rollin

[Drachen]

You have never kissed your significant other without concern for anything other than your significant other?

Damn, I have been accused of being too calculated and logical sometimes, but shit I think you take that crown from me with that statement.

[leemajors]

You have never kissed your significant other without concern for anything other than your significant other?

Damn, I have been accused of being too calculated and logical sometimes, but shit I think you take that crown from me with that statement.

No, but they broke up with him shortly after he took a stand against it. Oddest thing.

[TeyshaBlue]

Cathy's 1st amendment rights to free speech

Yoni parroting the totally false talking point that reacting to Cathy's completely free and defended hate speech was a 1st Amendment violation. He's free to speak, and his opposition is free to boycott/hurt/challenge his hate speech.

But Govt. institutions are not allowed to deny business expansion because of what he said.

[Bill_Brasky]

No. I will tell you why. PDA is rude and annoying to others. It doesn't matter if it's a man and a woman or two flaming homos kissing each other or holding each other. I don't want to see that shit in public. It's weird to be honest. It's weird because it comes off as if people are insecure about their affection for their mate so they feel they have to prove it in front of others.

Haha, your life sucks.


What a bitter little bitch, and a sad way to live tbh. Seek help.

[Yonivore]

But Govt. institutions are not allowed to deny business expansion because of what he said.
And, with the passage of a few days, I think there was another element to the huge reaction on "Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day."

I believe it was also a demonstration to show the complete hypocrisy of the Democrat Party.

Gay rights groups never claimed Barack Obama supported hate against homosexuals, even though he held the same position, as Cathy, until just two months prior to the boycott of Chick-fil-A.

The principal mayors, whose threats against Chick-fil-A led to the demonstration, Rahm Emanuel and Thomas Menino, chose to align themselves with homosexuals, against Cathy, but remain silent on the position of other groups, in their respective cities, who hold more radical views of homosexuals than does Cathy.

Rahm Emanuel, on the same day he was vilifying Dan Cathy, welcomed the offer of Louis Farrakhan and the Nation of Islam to help patrol the streets of violent Chicago. The Nation of Islam and Louis Farrakhan believe homosexuality is an abomination and that homosexuals should be killed.

Thomas Menino, not long before, presided at the ribbon-cutting of a Boston mosque who's radical Imam once explained what is the best way to put homosexuals to death.

No better example of the hypocrisy of Democrats' identity politics exists.

[jack sommerset]

I'm surprised Obama didn't give his opinion. God bless

[Yonivore]

Well, the reports are in on Starbucks Appreciation Day (http://www.latimes.com/business/money/la-fi-mo-starbucks-chickfila-20120807,0,2316872.story)!


K8E_zMLCRNg

[jack sommerset]

If you are a struggling franchise and are against gay marriages you might run a few ads about it. It might give you a boost in sales. God bless

[Yonivore]

If you are a struggling franchise and are against gay marriages you might run a few ads about it. It might give you a boost in sales. God bless
Actually, the thing to do is let the intolerant city officials where you hope to franchise, know your personal opinions and hope they'll threaten to violate your rights.

[Spurminator]

I had never even heard of Starbucks Appreciation Day until now.

Is this a point of pride for you that your side is more likely to herd by the thousands to a fast food chain to make a political statement? This is something that you see as a victory of some kind?

L.
O.
L.


Allah bless.

[ElNono]

I had never even heard of Starbucks Appreciation Day until now.

ditto

[Yonivore]

ditto
Well, GLAAD and the LGBT community announced it as their answer to "Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day."

They were going to blow the doors of Starbucks to show how much more support they enjoy over embattled Dan Cathy.

[ElNono]

Well, GLAAD and the LGBT community announced it as their answer to "Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day."

I'm glad you're on top of GLAAD and the LGBT community communications.

[Spurminator]

Well, GLAAD and the LGBT community announced it as their answer to "Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day."

They were going to blow the doors of Starbucks to show how much more support they enjoy over embattled Dan Cathy.

Link? A quick Google search connecting GLAAD with this event comes up pretty sparse.

And also...


Is this a point of pride for you that your side is more likely to herd by the thousands to a fast food chain to make a political statement? This is something that you see as a victory of some kind?

[Yonivore]

I'm glad you're on top of GLAAD and the LGBT community communications.
They were hard to miss for anyone paying attention to the story.

Gay Marriage Activists Try Again to Counter Chick-fil-A Day (http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/OTUS/gay-marriage-activists-counter-chick-fil-day-success/story?id=16942428#.UCMnLfZlTrQ)


After traditional marriage advocates came out en masse for Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day last week, gay marriage activists are planning to swarm Starbucks on Tuesday to show their support for companies that offer same-sex partner benefits.

Today's National Marriage Equality Day is a "direct response" to conservative commentator Mike Huckabee's Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day, which the chicken company said led to "record-setting" sales last week.

"It felt like the right wing groups were showcasing Aug. 1 as 'This is how America feels,'" said Kirsten Ott Palladino, the editor of an online same-sex wedding magazine, Equally Wed, who, along with her wife, started the equality day effort. "We are wanting to say, 'This isn't all of America and we can come out and support our businesses too."

[Spurminator]

Guess a lot of people weren't paying attention. Shocking, since I would expect Equally Wed magazine to have the same size audience as Mike Huckabee, Rick Santorum and Fox News.

[Yonivore]

Guess a lot of people weren't paying attention. Shocking, since I would expect Equally Wed magazine to have the same size audience as Mike Huckabee, Rick Santorum and Fox News.
Or, ABC News?

[Spurminator]

LOL even Think Progress didn't know about it.

http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2012/08/07/651651/today-is-apparently-starbucks-appreciation-day/

[ElNono]

Guess a lot of people weren't paying attention. Shocking, since I would expect Equally Wed magazine to have the same size audience as Mike Huckabee, Rick Santorum and Fox News.

pretty much

[Spurminator]

Or, ABC News?

A little article on abcnews.com that probably wasn't even linked on their front page.

OH... also,


Is this a point of pride for you that your side is more likely to herd by the thousands to a fast food chain to make a political statement? This is something that you see as a victory of some kind?

L.
O.
L.

[baseline bum]

pretty much

Sorry man, I think the size of the average viewer to Huckabee is quite a bit larger tbh. Not exactly hard to get fat fucks to go buy a deep fried chicken sandwich.

[ElNono]

Sorry man, I think the size of the average viewer to Huckabee is quite a bit larger tbh. Not exactly hard to get fat fucks to go buy a deep fried chicken sandwich.

I retract that statement, then :lol

[Spurminator]

I mean you actually give a shit about this enough to take a failed Facebook event and compare it against a days-long media blitz driving people to a chicken sandwich chain to show their support of free speech and traditional marriage.

Your "side" campaigned for people to line up in 100 degree heat for a chicken sandwich, and those people showed up in droves because they were told to. Meanwhile, the other "side" failed to show comparable interest in also showing up to a mass retail chain as a testament to their beliefs. Your "side" thinks this somehow qualifies as something to brag about.

And you don't even realize what a tool this makes you.

[Yonivore]

A little article on abcnews.com that probably wasn't even linked on their front page.
And, I heard about it from neither of those sources. In fact, I heard about it from the same places I heard about Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day; top and bottom of the hour newsbreaks on the radio station. ABC News, I believe.


OH... also,
I think it demonstrates a point, yeah. A few, in fact.

There is tremendous outrage over governments' threats to punish speech by withholding services.

There is just as much hypocrisy in the Democrat Party over the issue of whether or not they truly respect homosexuals or are just pandering for their vote.

That same-sex opponents are vastly more likely to stand up and support someone with whom they agree than are same-sex proponents.

And, that gay activists are petty, vindictive, assholes that belittle fast food chain employees and homeless street preachers.

[ChumpDumper]

Outrage!

[Yonivore]

I mean you actually give a shit about this enough to take a failed Facebook event and compare it against a days-long media blitz driving people to a chicken sandwich chain to show their support of free speech and traditional marriage.
There wasn't a "media blitz," in fact is was pretty much ignored by the mainstream media.

What stopped the gay community from engaging in a "media blitz" of their own?


Your "side" campaigned for people to line up in 100 degree heat for a chicken sandwich, and those people showed up in droves because they were told to. Meanwhile, the other "side" failed to show comparable interest in also showing up to a mass retail chain as a testament to their beliefs. Your "side" thinks this somehow qualifies as something to brag about.
I didn't do it because I was told to, I did it because I believed it was an appropriate demonstration of the outrage over Emanuel's and Menino's government overreach.

The other claimed they were going to do the same at Starbucks. What does that say? Perhaps their position isn't as popular as they believe. Same-sex marriage has been skunked in 37 states when it came up for a popular vote.


And you don't even realize what a tool this makes you.
I think it brought attention to the hypocrisy of Democrats. You can think what you want.

[Spurminator]

And, I heard about it from neither of those sources. In fact, I heard about it from the same places I heard about Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day; top and bottom of the hour newsbreaks on the radio station. ABC News, I believe.

I don't believe for one minute that regular mainstream news radio was giving constant updates on Starbucks Appreciation Day. I WOULD believe that conservative news radio was doing updates about it because that's the kind of things their listeners get excited about. I don't think any news source heavily utilized by a gay and/or liberal audience was reporting heavily on Starbucks Day, and they certainly weren't outright PROMOTING IT like conservative news promoted CFA Day.

[ChumpDumper]

I didn't do it because I was told to, I did it because I believed it was an appropriate demonstration of the outrage over Emanuel's and Menino's government overreach.After you were told to.

[Spurminator]

There wasn't a "media blitz," in fact is was pretty much ignored by the mainstream media.

Thanks to Fox News and Right Wing Radio you don't need "mainstream media" (as you define it) to create a media blitz.


What stopped the gay community from engaging in a "media blitz" of their own?

Who says they should have? Not everyone measures their passion for civil rights issues by what kind of fast food they buy.


I didn't do it because I was told to, I did it because I believed it was an appropriate demonstration of the outrage over Emanuel's and Menino's government overreach.

The other claimed they were going to do the same at Starbucks. What does that say? Perhaps their position isn't as popular as they believe. Same-sex marriage has been skunked in 37 states when it came up for a popular vote.

It says that Equally Wed Magazine is not as good at organizing retail-chain-focused demonstrations as Mike Huckabee and Fox News.

[baseline bum]

LOL @ Fox News and ClearChannel not being mainstream media. :rollin

[Spurminator]

LOL @ Fox News and ClearChannel not being mainstream media. :rollin

Exactly. They're the underdog grassroots heroes fighting to expose the truth above media juggernauts like Equally Wed Magazine's Official Facebook Page.

[Spurminator]

Man, NPR was all over Starbucks Day... Can't believe it didn't pick up more steam!

http://www.npr.org/search/index.php?searchinput=starbucks+appreciation+day

MSNBC.com had high-profile mentions of it in the coveted last paragraph of two articles about the CFA demonstrations.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/?id=11881780&q=starbucks+appreciation+day&search=&p=1&st=1&sm=user

Clearly the liberal media was pushing this hard and its failure must indicate that gay people don't actually care about gay rights. They'd all be Republicans if not for all of those felons voting all the time.

[DMX7]

What a fucking idiot!


qxpF7DaeC1A
:lmao

Is that you, Yoni?

[Clipper Nation]

There is tremendous outrage over governments' threats to punish speech by withholding services.
No, there's tremendous outrage among ne:lolc:lolns over the idea that gay people should be treated like regular citizens and given the same rights, tbh... the asshole mayors' strongarming of Chick-fil-A is a side issue that most reasonable people realize was a dumb move, tbh...

[Yonivore]

Is that you, Yoni?
Believe it or not, I'm not opposed to, nor do I support, same-sex marriage. But, I feel the same about heterosexual marriage. I simply believe government has no business being involved in marriage at all. I opposed DOMA and I think laws to restrict personal, consensual associations are, and should be, unconstitutional.

In the stories I heard, that caused me to become involved, the threats made by Menino and Emanuel were what drove me to participate. Did they mention Cathy's views? Yes but, in the context of Emanuel saying it meant Cathy didn't share Chicago values and, therefore, Chick-fil-A wasn't welcome there.

Emmanuel and Menino demonstrated well, the hypocrisy of the Democrat Party that panders to identy groups in an effort to drive a wedge into their opponents. Two months ago, Barack Obama opposed same-sex marriage, then he evolved. During the 2008 campaign, he ran, in part, on the position he believed marriage should be between one man and one woman. I don't remember any outrage from the gay community.

Rahm Emmanuel, on the same day he condemned Cathy, welcomed Louis Farrakhan and the Nation of Islam, into Chicago to help him patrol the violent streets of Chicago. Anyone know what Louis Farrakhan and the Nation of Islam believe and espouse about homosexuality?

Mayor Menino, while outraged that Cathy would hold such a view, has no problem handing over $1.8 million dollars of taxpayer money to help build a mosque whose radical Imam once ruled on what is the best way to kill a homosexual.

That's the Democrat hypocrisy I stood up against last Wednesday.

I think people should be free to spend their lives with whomever they choose. I also believe people should be able to have the freedom to specify whomever they like to be their representative, power of attorney, beneficiary of insurance and retirement accounts, etc...

What I don't favor is forcing private companies or churches to accept homosexuality if it goes against their personal beliefs.

I don't know how I can be any clearer. I've said this before but, because I choose to demonstrate against naked government aggression and Democrat hypocrisy -- and that's what Menino and Emanuel did -- and, because you idiots continue to believe the protest was principally against gay marriage, I get tagged with the anti-gay marriage label.

For over a month, gay activist groups had been trying to get a boycott of Chick-fil-A off the ground. I don't recall any groundswell of opposition fighting back on Chick-fil-A's behalf. It wasn't until Menino and Emanuel suggested they would use their positions in government to punish Chick-fil-A that I even cared. Fuck, gays are boycotting all the time.

Were there people there that agreed with Cathy's view? Yes. Were there people there that didn't? Yes. Were there gays there protesting? Yep. I was with one. Having had an openly homosexual relative have their first job at Chick-fil-A and seeing how they treat their employees, first hand, I know they are truly a Christian company that does not discriminate on the basis of sexual orientation.

That server that was harassed by Adam Smith at the drive-through window, confirmed this on television yesterday. When asked how she was able to maintain poise and professionalism in the face of Smith's tirade, she said Chick-fil-A trains all employees to treat every customer with dignity and respect. And, they do.

Emanuel and Menino's attempt to foment hate against an entire franchise, employing tens of thousands of people with every imaginable set of beliefs, under the sun, was reprehensible.

Chick-fil-A was swamped last Wednesday; and I, for one, am proud of Americans that made that happen. They ran out of product at the store close to my house at about 8:00 P.M. I was there for breakfast, lunch, and dinner and saw some of the same employees there all day. Not once did I see one that wasn't smiling and that wasn't respectful to everyone.

Regardless of what you think about Dan Cathy and what he does with the company's profits, his franchisees and employees are top notch. I know one personally and love her with all my heart.

[Yonivore]

No, there's tremendous outrage among ne:lolc:lolns over the idea that gay people should be treated like regular citizens and given the same rights, tbh... the asshole mayors' strongarming of Chick-fil-A is a side issue that most reasonable people realize was a dumb move, tbh...
Ditto to you, asshole.

[Wild Cobra]

Well, the reports are in on Starbucks Appreciation Day (http://www.latimes.com/business/money/la-fi-mo-starbucks-chickfila-20120807,0,2316872.story)!


K8E_zMLCRNg
Fuck Starbucks.

They are a despicable business. They buy up their competition that actually is good so they an keep their prices high. My favorite Coffee shop is no more because of them, and Starbuck's coffee isn't as good.

[Yonivore]

Fuck Starbucks.

They are a despicable business. They buy up their competition that actually is good so they an keep their prices high. My favorite Coffee shop is no more because of them, and Starbuck's coffee isn't as good.
Their coffee tastes like it's been strained through an ashtray. I avoid it, when I can, just because it tastes so bad.

[AussieFanKurt]

Their coffee tastes like it's been strained through an ashtray. I avoid it, when I can, just because it tastes so bad.

I wonder how Starbucks has been successful when their coffee is so terrible.

[coyotes_geek]

I wonder how Starbucks has been successful when their coffee is so terrible.

Cream and sugar. Lots and lots of cream and sugar.

[Yonivore]

Cream and sugar. Lots and lots of cream and sugar.
:tu Pretty much what I was thinking.

That and wicked good marketing.

I mean, c'mon, it's just fucking coffee. For less than ten bucks, I can have about a months worth and spend less time each day brewing it than I would waiting in line at Starbucks to pick it up.

It's not even a quick cup of coffee.

[Yonivore]

Oh, and they reel people in to the Starbucks culture before they've ever even tasted a good cup of coffee.

I know people that actually think their black, bitter, overly hot coffee is the greatest thing that's ever passed their lips...as I watch them tear open the sugar packet.

[Blake]

Oh, and they reel people in to the Starbucks culture before they've ever even tasted a good cup of coffee.

I know people that actually think their black, bitter, overly hot coffee is the greatest thing that's ever passed their lips...as I watch them tear open the sugar packet.

What religion do you subscribe to, Yoni?

[AussieFanKurt]

Oh, and they reel people in to the Starbucks culture before they've ever even tasted a good cup of coffee.

I know people that actually think their black, bitter, overly hot coffee is the greatest thing that's ever passed their lips...as I watch them tear open the sugar packet.

I think people who drink Starbucks are the crowd who drink coffee in an attempt to look cool and fit in

[Yonivore]

What religion do you subscribe to, Yoni?
It's not the Starbucks religion. You're in the wrong thread.

[coyotes_geek]

:tu Pretty much what I was thinking.

That and wicked good marketing.

I mean, c'mon, it's just fucking coffee. For less than ten bucks, I can have about a months worth and spend less time each day brewing it than I would waiting in line at Starbucks to pick it up.

It's not even a quick cup of coffee.


Oh, and they reel people in to the Starbucks culture before they've ever even tasted a good cup of coffee.

I know people that actually think their black, bitter, overly hot coffee is the greatest thing that's ever passed their lips...as I watch them tear open the sugar packet.

They're definitely geniuses when it comes to creating a culture and building their brand.

I can tolerate their coffee but that's pretty much just because that's what we have here at the office. At least it's better than Folgiers. I certainly don't buy it for home use.

[AussieFanKurt]

Not being a big coffee drinker, am I really missing out of anything

[Yonivore]

Not being a big coffee drinker, am I really missing out of anything
Nope. But, good coffee would change that for you.

And, Coyotes_geek; one should never resort to "tolerating" coffee. If I can't get good coffee, I don't drink coffee. It's not like it's a necessity.

[AussieFanKurt]

Scared I'll get to the point where I need it every day

[coyotes_geek]

Not being a big coffee drinker, am I really missing out of anything

Not really. It's kind of like wine. If you're not really into it and only drink it occasionally you're probably not going to fully appreciate the really good stuff. If you're not drinking a lot of it you're not going to know what you're missing.

[coyotes_geek]

Nope. But, good coffee would change that for you.

And, Coyotes_geek; one should never resort to "tolerating" coffee. If I can't get good coffee, I don't drink coffee. It's not like it's a necessity.

Hi, I'm Coyotes_geek and I'm a coffee addict..........:)

[TeyshaBlue]

Fuck Starbucks.

They are a despicable business. They buy up their competition that actually is good so they an keep their prices high. My favorite Coffee shop is no more because of them, and Starbuck's coffee isn't as good.

Cite?

[CosmicCowboy]

Agreed that Starbucks coffee is terrible. I drink coffee black and Starbucks Americana has an aftertaste like licking an ash tray. Why they intentionally burn their beans when they roast them makes no sense to me. The only reason I can see that they got so popular was all the other sweet/creamy/frothy shit they put in there for the lightweights.

[TeyshaBlue]

Agreed that Starbucks coffee is terrible. I drink coffee black and Starbucks Americana has an aftertaste like licking an ash tray. Why they intentionally burn their beans when they roast them makes no sense to me. The only reason I can see that they got so popular was all the other sweet/creamy/frothy shit they put in there for the lightweights.

They roast 'em dark. This is the norm in many other countries. Their Pikes Place blend was their shot at giving their customer base a more "mainstream" coffee...that is, light, bright and almost devoid of any body. It's not a bad cup, but it's pretty nondescript.

I roast my own coffee now days. Sumatra and Huehuetenango are my fav beans. They'd probabaly make you cry like a 9 year old girl.:lol

[Yonivore]

Hi, I'm Coyotes_geek and I'm a coffee addict..........:)
Admitting you have a problem is the first step.

I've been through the twelve-step program. I use to drink coffee by the multiple potfuls, three-day old Circle K coffee to coffee made from boiling a handful of mashed (not ground, mind you, but mashed) up coffee beans because somehow, we ended up with whole beans on a primitive camp out in Big Bend.

No more. If it don't taste good, I pour it out.

[TeyshaBlue]

Cowboy coffee ftw!

[Yonivore]

They roast 'em dark. This is the norm in many other countries. Their Pikes Place blend was their shot at giving their customer base a more "mainstream" coffee...that is, light, bright and almost devoid of any body. It's not a bad cup, but it's pretty nondescript.

I roast my own coffee now days. Sumatra and Huehuetenango are my fav beans. They'd probabaly make you cry like a 9 year old girl.:lol
Their flavor is distinctive, TeyshaBlue; to me, and I'm not exaggerating (as a man that has accidentally drank from more than a couple of beer can ashtrays in my drunken days), black Starbucks coffee, aside from being tongue-blistering hot, tastes like the coffee version of a beer can ashtray.

[coyotes_geek]

Agreed that Starbucks coffee is terrible. I drink coffee black and Starbucks Americana has an aftertaste like licking an ash tray. Why they intentionally burn their beans when they roast them makes no sense to me. The only reason I can see that they got so popular was all the other sweet/creamy/frothy shit they put in there for the lightweights.

I've always assumed that they made their coffee bitter to try and get some semblance of a coffee taste past all the sweet/creamy/frothy stuff they put in their drinks.

[DarrinS]

Two chains whose sucesss I never understood:

Starbucks
Krispy Kreme donuts

[coyotes_geek]

Admitting you have a problem is the first step.

I've been through the twelve-step program. I use to drink coffee by the multiple potfuls, three-day old Circle K coffee to coffee made from boiling a handful of mashed (not ground, mind you, but mashed) up coffee beans because somehow, we ended up with whole beans on a primitive camp out in Big Bend.

No more. If it don't taste good, I pour it out.

I always start my day off with the good stuff from home, but I'll need another cup or two later in the day while I'm at work. I tried bringing in my own coffee & coffeemaker but got tired of people asking if they could have some.

[Yonivore]

Two chains whose sucesss I never understood:

Starbucks
Krispy Kreme donuts
Selling an image isn't the same as selling a product.

Barack Obama being another example.

[DarrinS]

Another big coffee scam -- Keurig.

Got one for Father's Day. Those individual cups are f'ing EXPENSIVE. I now use the little filter that lets you use your own coffee --- I'm pretty sure it's wasteful.

[clambake]

Selling an image isn't the same as selling a product.

Barack Obama being another example.

religion being another example.

[leemajors]

I drink Yerba Mate and Guayasa, never cared for the taste of coffee.

[Blake]

It's not the Starbucks religion. You're in the wrong thread.

k, post it in the correct thread.

[CosmicCowboy]

I always start my day off with the good stuff from home, but I'll need another cup or two later in the day while I'm at work. I tried bringing in my own coffee & coffeemaker but got tired of people asking if they could have some.

I only drink one cup of coffee in the morning (from home) but it's a 72oz Bill Miller Ice tea mug.

[MannyIsGod]

You don't go to Starbucks for regular coffee. You go for espresso. And really for a big chain that is everywhere and is fairly convenient the espresso isn't bad.

I don't drink much of it anymore though. There's a local place here that had me hooked on dirty chais for awhile but it a) gets expensive as shit and b) I hated feeling like I NEEDED the caffeine to function.

[DarrinS]

I only drink one cup of coffee in the morning (from home) but it's a 72oz Bill Miller Ice tea mug.

:wow

[Blake]

I only drink one cup of coffee in the morning (from home) but it's a 72oz Bill Miller Ice tea mug.

After you finish off the the first 20oz or so, do the remaining 50oz stay warm?

[baseline bum]

Two chains whose sucesss I never understood:

Starbucks
Krispy Kreme donuts

Really? I think Krispy Kreme has a way better glazed donut than places like Shipley's or Duncan Donuts. I haven't tried anything else on their menu though.

[DarrinS]

Really? I think Krispy Kreme has a way better glazed donut than places like Shipley's or Duncan Donuts. I haven't tried anything else on their menu though.


The Krispy Kreme product never lived up to the hype.

[Yonivore]

k, post it in the correct thread.
I already did.

[baseline bum]

The Krispy Kreme product never lived up to the hype.

Well yeah, no donut is going to be worth waiting an hour in line for on a store's grand opening. It reminds me of when all the Dallas people here were pissed a few months ago when they found out In N Out wasn't worth waiting behind 150 cars in the drive thru.

[CosmicCowboy]

After you finish off the the first 20oz or so, do the remaining 50oz stay warm?

Yeah, it's an insulated mug...I don't like it scalding hot anyway.

[Blake]

I already did.

no you didn't.

I don't know of any religion that approves of liars. Does yours?

If so, which religion is it?

[Blake]

The Krispy Kreme product never lived up to the hype.

I don't know any other donut shop that gives you a free, heavily glazed donut right off of the rack while you wait in line.

It's bad ass, imo.

[Drachen]

Well yeah, no donut is going to be worth waiting an hour in line for on a store's grand opening. It reminds me of when all the Dallas people here were pissed a few months ago when they found out In N Out wasn't worth waiting behind 150 cars in the drive thru.

Try two and a half or more.

I worked at the IHOP at dezavala when the first one opened here (in the University bowl parking lot. I lived in the apartments right next to it and so I walked to work every day. When it opened, they shut down the bowling alley, and used their parking lot to snake everyone through (they had cones set up and everything), and even using the entire parking lot, the line for the drive through still went out onto the frontage road, and took up the right lane all the way PASSED the damn stop light at dezavala. People were sitting there in their damn cars with the motor running and as I was walking passed, one guy rolled down his window and said "hey, do you know how long it will be from here" and I told him that there was a sign about 10 cars ahead of him that said 2 hours. Then I proceeded to tell him that Austin is an hour away, and they had a KK that had been opened for a while and was sure to not have a line. He could be there and back before he got through the drive through that was half a mile ahead of him. He got that stoner "WOW YEAH" look on his face and took off.

People are fucking stupid, and no, I still haven't been to a KK (I have eaten a donut when someone brings them into work, but there is NO reason to wait in line for those.

[Homeland Security]

You don't go to Starbucks for regular coffee. You go for espresso. And really for a big chain that is everywhere and is fairly convenient the espresso isn't bad.

I don't drink much of it anymore though. There's a local place here that had me hooked on dirty chais for awhile but it a) gets expensive as shit and b) I hated feeling like I NEEDED the caffeine to function.
This post garners 9 white liberal points.
Mentions Starbucks: 1 point
Mentions espresso twice: 2 points
Pretends that most people go to Starbucks for espresso rather than the 1000-calorie food porn drinks: 1 point
Mentions chai tea: 1 point
Curse word used ironically: 1 point
Alludes to knwoing the "evils" of caffeine but leaves the door wide open not to do anything about it: 3 points

If you can reach 100 white liberal points in any given day you get entered in a drawing for a Toyota Prius.

[Homeland Security]

P.S. if you are wearing those men's "deck shorts" that are essentially male capri pants, in a color such as coral, yellow, or aqua, you go straight to 100 points, and also get a free proposition from your gay acquaintances.

[Blake]

Try two and a half or more.

I worked at the IHOP at dezavala when the first one opened here (in the University bowl parking lot. I lived in the apartments right next to it and so I walked to work every day. When it opened, they shut down the bowling alley, and used their parking lot to snake everyone through (they had cones set up and everything), and even using the entire parking lot, the line for the drive through still went out onto the frontage road, and took up the right lane all the way PASSED the damn stop light at dezavala. People were sitting there in their damn cars with the motor running and as I was walking passed, one guy rolled down his window and said "hey, do you know how long it will be from here" and I told him that there was a sign about 10 cars ahead of him that said 2 hours. Then I proceeded to tell him that Austin is an hour away, and they had a KK that had been opened for a while and was sure to not have a line. He could be there and back before he got through the drive through that was half a mile ahead of him. He got that stoner "WOW YEAH" look on his face and took off.

People are fucking stupid, and no, I still haven't been to a KK (I have eaten a donut when someone brings them into work, but there is NO reason to wait in line for those.

I had never seen anything like that, before or since.

It took a full 6 months or so for that line to be tolerable.

[Blake]

P.S. if you are wearing those men's "deck shorts" that are essentially male capri pants, in a color such as coral, yellow, or aqua, you go straight to 100 points, and also get a free proposition from your gay acquaintances.

give yourself maximum douche points

[Homeland Security]

I own all three colors, what's the problem? They look cool.

[Blake]

give yourself maximum douche points

[Homeland Security]

http://shop.nordstrom.com/s/saltaire-summer-bermuda-shorts/3295525?origin=related-3295525-0-0-1-1

[CuckingFunt]

Coffee with chicory, for the win.

[TeyshaBlue]

Gross.

[Yonivore]

Coffee with chicory, for the win.
It's not bad.

[Wild Cobra]

Two chains whose sucesss I never understood:

Starbucks
Could it be because its preppy?

Krispy Kreme donuts
Could it be the Simpsons?