SI's Preseason Football Top 25

[symple19]

1.Bammer
2.USC
3.LSU
4.Oregon (wtf?)
5.Okie Doke

...http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/football/ncaa/08/15/preseason-top-25-alabama-usc-lsu/index.html?eref=sihp&sct=hp_t12_a0

[symple19]

4 of the top 10 SEC

UT @ #15

[The Reckoning]

strength of conference should rank tamu in top 10 imo

[The Reckoning]

oh boy! red river shootout should be a hell of a game this year though.

[symple19]

oh boy! red river shootout should be a hell of a game this year though.

yeah, it should.

Hope you guys stomp those fucks

[symple19]

someone explain to me how Oregon warrants a number 4 spot?

[Blake]

oh boy! red river shootout should be a hell of a game this year though.

low scoring slug fest, imo.

[Clipper Nation]

someone explain to me how Oregon warrants a number 4 spot?

Yeah, the top 5 is supposed to be fully booked for the ESS EEE SEE only, tbh... :rolleyes

[symple19]

Yeah, the top 5 is supposed to be fully booked for the ESS EEE SEE only, tbh... :rolleyes

well, I was alluding to the fact that Oregon will be starting an inexperienced quarterback as well as having some new faces in the backfield (James is now a 49er) I guess their defense is supposed to be really good, at least as good as a PAC defense can be anyway...

Not really the ingredients for a top 5 team, imo

I always pull for the smurf turfers, but you and Vander sure are shitty ambassadors for that school.

And yeah, i'll indulge you. The SEC is the best conference in football, but I wouldn't put another SEC team in the top 5. Who would you put there?

[Avante]

As long as the SEC has all that team speed they will rule. The big guys can run! The non SEC teams that can treatened are the ones with speed themselves like USC and Oregon, just not the same depth.

[The Gemini Method]

Oregon has De Anthony Thomas, who outside of Lattimore and Davis, can possibly be the most explosive RB in college football. They also have Kenjuan Barner and a superb offensive line that returns the corps of the group back. It is their D that, surprisingly, is returning a great deal. In my opinion, they're maybe 8-10 since they really don't play anyone tough besides USC this year they get buoyed by that fact. I'm also guessing Knight has some sway, too: Vote us top 5 and you get free Air Huraches!

[Brutalis]

Lmao south carolina and michigan state. Fucking jokes.

Lsu is good but not as good as ppl think now. Best defensive player in the sec... gone. Unproven offense.

Looong year for lsu ahead.

[The Gemini Method]

Lmao south carolina and michigan state. Fucking jokes.

Lsu is good but not as good as ppl think now. Best defensive player in the sec... gone. Unproven offense.

Looong year for lsu ahead.

Who was the best defensive player? Claiborne would've been my pick...no way it was Matthieu...

But these preseason rankings are always just fodder for discussion anyhow.

[vander]

Michigan St. @ #8. Oh shit!

[Vito Corleone]

As long as the SEC has all that team speed they will rule. The big guys can run! The non SEC teams that can treatened are the ones with speed themselves like USC and Oregon, just not the same depth.

There are 4 constant non-SEC teams that can threaten them in any given year.

tOSU, USC, Oklahoma, and Texas. Probably add FSU to that list but I don't think they are back just yet.

Winning in college football isn't about conference it's about recruiting, and these 4 teams are consistently good recruiting schools.

[jack sommerset]

I'm surprised Boise isn't in top 10. God bless

[Clipper Nation]

I'm surprised Boise isn't in top 10. God bless

It's a reloading year because the greatest quarterback in college football history, Kellen Moore, graduated tbh.... Pete bless

[Avante]

There are 4 constant non-SEC teams that can threaten them in any given year.

tOSU, USC, Oklahoma, and Texas. Probably add FSU to that list but I don't think they are back just yet.

Winning in college football isn't about conference it's about recruiting, and these 4 teams are consistently good recruiting schools.

Well if colege football isn't about conference then how come Boise State/TCU get the disrespect they did? Yes it is about conference, kids wanna play for the big dawgs, those SEC teams, those you mentioned.

Hell yes the college game is all about recruits...obviously...that's why the SEC has ruled lately, they recruit speed at every position. Who hasn't heard...SEC speed?

I agree with you about a few theams being threats, but when we look at depth of solid teams it's been the SEC. They have more good teams, more depth, big guys who can run.

Those southern HS's are loaded with speedy athletes that's where the SEC recruits.

[Vito Corleone]

Big 12 south schools are just as fast as SEC schools, same can be said of ACC schools. Same can be said of the Cali schools. Speed isn't only found in the Southern states of the SEC.

All the schools I mentioned are just as fast as any SEC school, when it comes to speed you can even throw in Miami Virginia, V-Tech, the North Carolina schools, UCLA and even feKal.

As for conf. The reason TCU and BSU are held out is all about politics. It's got nothing to do with on the field performance.

[Avante]

Big 12 south schools are just as fast as SEC schools, same can be said of ACC schools. Same can be said of the Cali schools. Speed isn't only found in the Southern states of the SEC.

All the schools I mentioned are just as fast as any SEC school, when it comes to speed you can even throw in Miami Virginia, V-Tech, the North Carolina schools, UCLA and even feKal.

As for conf. The reason TCU and BSU are held out is all about politics. It's got nothing to do with on the field performance.

Totally wrong.

Do I really need to make that long long list of sprinters/long jumper/hurdlers who have played in the SEC? And if you follow the college game at all you have heard..."the big guys can run in the SEC"...right?

The SEC has has soooooooooooooooooooooo many speedy players far more than any other conference it's not even close. Olympians like Jeff Demps.

And no it's not about politics when it comes to Boise/TCU it's about playing a weak schedule.

[symple19]

Big 12 south schools are just as fast as SEC schools, same can be said of ACC schools. Same can be said of the Cali schools. Speed isn't only found in the Southern states of the SEC.

All the schools I mentioned are just as fast as any SEC school, when it comes to speed you can even throw in Miami Virginia, V-Tech, the North Carolina schools, UCLA and even feKal.

As for conf. The reason TCU and BSU are held out is all about politics. It's got nothing to do with on the field performance.

Then what is the difference between the SEC and these other conferences you mentioned?

[Clipper Nation]

:cry And no it's not about politics when it comes to Boise/TCU it's about playing a weak schedule. :cry

And the weak schedule is a result of... wait for it.... politics! The big boys all love to hold the schedule shit over Boise State, but very few have the balls to put forth a non-insulting, serious offer that doesn't treat a 2-time BCS bowl winner like an FCS team, tbh...

Why do they do it? Keeping out more competition from the big stage, that's why....

[symple19]

And the weak schedule is a result of... wait for it.... politics! The big boys all love to hold the schedule shit over Boise State, but very few have the balls to put forth a non-insulting, serious offer that doesn't treat a 2-time BCS bowl winner like an FCS team, tbh...

Why do they do it? Keeping out more competition from the big stage, that's why....

I always :lol when people bitch about BSU/TCU etc. with the new system you guys will finally get your chance. hope so anyway

[Clipper Nation]

I always :lol when people bitch about BSU/TCU etc. with the new system you guys will finally get your chance. hope so anyway

:lmao

As if the 4-team playoff won't just feature 3 SEC schools and a token PAC or Big 12 sacrificial lamb, tbh... :lol

BSU's chance will come when the superconferences form and the PAC or Big 12 decide to "take a risk" on one of the best-run programs in the nation, tbh....

[symple19]

:lmao

As if the 4-team playoff won't just feature 3 SEC schools and a token PAC or Big 12 sacrificial lamb, tbh... :lol

yeah, that's why I put hope so in there..you're probably right, though

Really, I think that it will get expanded again when the fuckwads who make the decisions see just how awesome a playoff is

in other news, the FCS just expanded its playoff to 24 teams http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2012/08/16/fcs-playoff-expansion-gets-approval-for-2013/

[vander]

And the weak schedule is a result of... wait for it.... politics! The big boys all love to hold the schedule shit over Boise State, but very few have the balls to put forth a non-insulting, serious offer that doesn't treat a 2-time BCS bowl winner like an FCS team, tbh...

Why do they do it? Keeping out more competition from the big stage, that's why....

ugh, there are plenty of BCS teams out there that would and have played BSU, BSU's OoC schedule is as good as BSU want's it to be.

and it's the BCS that has put BSU on the big stage, giving them high rankings and BCS games despite the weak schedule.

[Vito Corleone]

Totally wrong.

Do I really need to make that long long list of sprinters/long jumper/hurdlers who have played in the SEC? And if you follow the college game at all you have heard..."the big guys can run in the SEC"...right?

The SEC has has soooooooooooooooooooooo many speedy players far more than any other conference it's not even close. Olympians like Jeff Demps.

And no it's not about politics when it comes to Boise/TCU it's about playing a weak schedule.

LOL have you seen the number of sprinters that have come from FSU, Miami, UCLA and USC? Have you seen the Sprinters from Texas, did you not notice we had a football player in these last Olympics. Have you not seen the Sprinters from Tech and Baylor who have made the Olympics?

The best high school track programs in the country are in Texas. Texas owns track and field and many of those kids go on to play football with schools in this state.

I haven't even mentioned U of H which is usually one of the fastest schools in the country.

And yes it is about Politics. You will never see a non-BCS conf school playing for the MNC under the current system. If the super conf did come into affect you would see never see a non super conf school play for the MNC.

The whole reason for the BCS was to make more money for the major conferences the only reason they made other school eligible was to prevent public backlash and stop any kind of law suit.

Your delusional if you think any WAC, MWC or CUSA school will ever be allowed to play for a championship.

[Vito Corleone]

Then what is the difference between the SEC and these other conferences you mentioned?

No offense, but the difference is the SEC is the dumbest set of schools (not incuding Vandy) in the country. There are many kids that will never get into a Pac 10 or B1G school or even an ACC school that are getting into schools like LSU bama Auburn Arkansas ect. Outside of Vandy, Aggsy is coming into the SEC as the richest school with the highest educational reputation.

You want to know why the SEC is so good, they take retards.

Don't worry, it wasn't too long ago Nebraska was taking the same kids and turning out 3 MNC's in a 5 year time span.

[symple19]

No offense, but the difference is the SEC is the dumbest set of schools (not incuding Vandy) in the country. There are many kids that will never get into a Pac 10 or B1G school or even an ACC school that are getting into schools like LSU bama Auburn Arkansas ect. Outside of Vandy, Aggsy is coming into the SEC as the richest school with the highest educational reputation.

You want to know why the SEC is so good, they take retards.

Don't worry, it wasn't too long ago Nebraska was taking the same kids and turning out 3 MNC's in a 5 year time span.

no offense taken. Never said the SEC was great academically. Aggy and Mizzou will improve that, though

However, I would suggest you to go to rivals/scout/etc and take a good look at who is offering the "top" recruits in the country. You'll find that Big10/Pac-10 schools are regularly offering the same kids who choose to go to the SEC

[Vito Corleone]

You will also notice that Rivals and Scout take academics into account when they rank their kids. Aggsy have a kid right now committed that is easily one of the top athletes in the country. He will never see Aggsyland next year because he so bad academically it is 100% likely he will go juco.

Cam Newton for as good as he was, had to go Juco before he could get into the SEC. One of the big reasons the SEC schools would oversign so often was because they knew many of the kids they signed would never make it to campus. They wanted to be ahead of the game when that kid got his grades up at some juco.

Believe me it's not just the Southern states, there are lots and lots of kids right here in Texas that UT will never go after because they know those kids will never make it in. Why waste your time on a dumbass when you can get a kid of equal talent that does care about going to class.

I know the next few posters are going to make some VY jokes about his Wonderlick scores. But the truth is Vince always did well in class because he never missed and acted like a student while here. There was never a question of will he make the grades to stay eligible. We have had lots of kids that didn't and ended up transfering because they didn't including a few kids we were depending on.

[symple19]

You will also notice that Rivals and Scout take academics into account when they rank their kids. Aggsy have a kid right now committed that is easily one of the top athletes in the country. He will never see Aggsyland next year because he so bad academically it is 100% likely he will go juco.

Cam Newton for as good as he was, had to go Juco before he could get into the SEC. One of the big reasons the SEC schools would oversign so often was because they knew many of the kids they signed would never make it to campus. They wanted to be ahead of the game when that kid got his grades up at some juco.

Believe me it's not just the Southern states, there are lots and lots of kids right here in Texas that UT will never go after because they know those kids will never make it in. Why waste your time on a dumbass when you can get a kid of equal talent that does care about going to class.

I know the next few posters are going to make some VY jokes about his Wonderlick scores. But the truth is Vince always did well in class because he never missed and acted like a student while here. There was never a question of will he make the grades to stay eligible. We have had lots of kids that didn't and ended up transfering because they didn't including a few kids we were depending on.

Cam went to Florida and backed up teabag for a year before he had to go to JUCO (dumbass had a stolen laptop) UF was the second best school academically after vandy before the new kids showed up.

Bama is the worst ever for oversigning...but yeah, it's been a big problem in the SEC. Auburn does much better than most. IIRC, every player they signed last year qualified and is in camp

[symple19]

Unless you're Notre Dame, Stanford, Vandy, or a handful of other elite academic schools, if you get the test score (17, right?) you're gonna get in

I don't buy the academic argument at all.

IMO, the real difference is that the SEC has always put the best athletes on the defensive side of the ball...And yes, there is more speed on defense in the SEC than there generally is in other conferences...Obviously, the SEC doesn't really stand out offensively, with the possible exception of Arkansas.

So basically, the SEC has more talent on the defensive side than anywhere else. Every NC winner the SEC has put forth has been dominant defensively, while shutting down what is usually one of the best offenses in the nation.

[The Reckoning]

lame that anytime theres a thread about college football as a whole it always goes down to conference smack

:sleep cant wait until playoffs. maybe that will put a bit of individuality back in college football instead of konference krews.

(yes i realize my jab at first was conference related, but moreso a direct hit at aggie using the conference platform to whore itself on the ncaa scene.)

[The Reckoning]

:lmao

As if the 4-team playoff won't just feature 3 SEC schools and a token PAC or Big 12 sacrificial lamb, tbh... :lol

BSU's chance will come when the superconferences form and the PAC or Big 12 decide to "take a risk" on one of the best-run programs in the nation, tbh....



ask vander...bsu is all for the bcs because as long as it remains undefeated in the powder puff league, it will remain on the national scene as a "bcs buster." the bcs system made bsu through and through.

[Vito Corleone]

Unless you're Notre Dame, Stanford, Vandy, or a handful of other elite academic schools, if you get the test score (17, right?) you're gonna get in

I don't buy the academic argument at all.

IMO, the real difference is that the SEC has always put the best athletes on the defensive side of the ball...And yes, there is more speed on defense in the SEC than there generally is in other conferences...Obviously, the SEC doesn't really stand out offensively, with the possible exception of Arkansas.

So basically, the SEC has more talent on the defensive side than anywhere else. Every NC winner the SEC has put forth has been dominant defensively, while shutting down what is usually one of the best offenses in the nation.

There are a lot more academic schools than you think.

Try Michigan, Purdue, North Carolina, Duke, Virginia, Maryland, Northwestern, Georgia Tech, Penn State (insert Joker here), Wisconsin, feKal, Washington, UCLA, USC, Baylor, SMU, TCU, BYU, Utah, and Even those Moron's in College Station. I didn't even mention Texas who has more than proven over the years it will not even attempt to sign guys that are perceived as a grade risk.

There are lots and lots of kids that wanted to go to Texas that were really awesome and fast football players that Texas refused to recruit.

The big boys all recruit speed and big fast kids that can play at every position. Are you trying to say that SEC kids are faster than USC? Have you seen the level of athletes USC puts in the NFL? Texas and Miami have more kids in the NFL than any other schools, and Texas has a really good record against the SEC with only 3 loses since Mack took over.

If I had to pick the real reason why the SEC has won the championship so many times these are the ones I'd pick.

1. Win at all cost mentality that pervades the SEC schools, they will cheat, take kids that have no business in school (basically anyone from the state of Mississippi), and do whatever it takes to be good at football.

2. High school track and field. Kids in the south have all winter, spring and summer to run track, something not available to kids in the northern states.

3. Over abundance of stupid black kids with no other way out of the ghetto than football.

4. Kids in the south are fed a diet of football since they turn 4 years old. Most kids know more about football than reading. Not so in the North or the West. East coast is that way with basketball.

I won't lie, it works to the advantage of Texas more so than any other school because we have had our pick of the richest football state than any other state in the US, including Cal and Florida.

The biggest reason the SEC is winning championships is that it runs in cycles. Where were the SEC schools in the 90's and early 2000's Mostly getting their asses handed to them by other schools.

[dirk4mvp]

Chances Vito Corleone went to UT - starting at 0%

[symple19]

Chances Vito Corleone went to UT - starting at 0%

shit goes in cycles, doancha know?

[symple19]

lame that anytime theres a thread about college football as a whole it always goes down to conference smack

:sleep cant wait until playoffs. maybe that will put a bit of individuality back in college football instead of konference krews.

(yes i realize my jab at first was conference related, but moreso a direct hit at aggie using the conference platform to whore itself on the ncaa scene.)

would you feel better if people actually paid attention to what you had to say?

lol, not gonna happen. Your elders have already made every tired argument you may have to offer. So why not just end your own life? it may be your best option, since nobody cares one way or another

[symple19]

lame that anytime theres a thread about college football as a whole it always goes down to conference smack

:sleep cant wait until playoffs. maybe that will put a bit of individuality back in college football instead of konference krews.

(yes i realize my jab at first was conference related, but moreso a direct hit at aggie using the conference platform to whore itself on the ncaa scene.)

do you have a take? Or do you just scoff shit like the rest of your impotent crew does??

[symple19]

lemmee guess. you're the smart one who never gets laid, right?


are you mad that the SEC is better than your shitty school at football?

[symple19]

are your parents kool with your expenditures while you're over there?

[symple19]

or...more likely..you're just another crying faggot who despises the SEC because we dominate your sorry ass in football...correct?

[symple19]

:cry :cry

aren't you glad that everyone knows that you're a little bitch...that your fancy school sucks at football?

[symple19]

lmao....vito corleone is very upset that SEC schools are better than you..... do you knash your teeth because your university is a joke?

[The Reckoning]

would you feel better if people actually paid attention to what you had to say?

lol, not gonna happen. Your elders have already made every tired argument you may have to offer. So why not just end your own life? it may be your best option, since nobody cares one way or another

good luck with that quitting smoking thing :lol

[The Reckoning]

and my scoff was directed toward both sides, i agreed that the argument was tired. i really dont care for the big 12, sec, pac 10, big 10, whatever. all conferences should do are to establish schedules based on D1 locale, and the rest be left up to playoffs.

[The Reckoning]

7 tbh.

this dude is either drunk, having mental paroxysms from nicotine withdraw, some crazy ptsd or manic bipolarism tbh fwiw imho.

[Vito Corleone]

Chances Vito Corleone went to UT - starting at 0%

Chances that it matters? 0%

If you must know I started off at Texas state back when it was SWT but finished off at U of Minnesota.

My ties to Texas run long and deep, very deep.

[Avante]

LOL have you seen the number of sprinters that have come from FSU, Miami, UCLA and USC? Have you seen the Sprinters from Texas, did you not notice we had a football player in these last Olympics. Have you not seen the Sprinters from Tech and Baylor who have made the Olympics?

The best high school track programs in the country are in Texas. Texas owns track and field and many of those kids go on to play football with schools in this state.

I haven't even mentioned U of H which is usually one of the fastest schools in the country.

And yes it is about Politics. You will never see a non-BCS conf school playing for the MNC under the current system. If the super conf did come into affect you would see never see a non super conf school play for the MNC.

The whole reason for the BCS was to make more money for the major conferences the only reason they made other school eligible was to prevent public backlash and stop any kind of law suit.

Your delusional if you think any WAC, MWC or CUSA school will ever be allowed to play for a championship.

I am positive no WAC, MWC, or CUSA will ever play for a title, but it's not about politics it's about weak schedule.

Go ahead give me the names of those FSU, Miami, UCLA and USC sprinters in the NFL....good luck. Yes Texas with...Jamaal Charles, Tony Jones, Johnny Jones and Herkie Walls is covered. Goodwin and Eric Metcalfe were long junpers but speedy.

Then there's this...

All Time SEC Football 100m

lane

1.Xavier Carter..10.00 LSU
2.Sam Graddy...10.09 Olympic medalist Tenn
3.Trindon Holliday...10.00 LSU
4.Leonard Scott...9.91 Tenn, fastest time ever ran by any footballer
5.John Capel...9.96 Florida Top ranked in the world
6.Willie Gault...10.01 Tenn Olympian
7.Jeff Demps...10.01 Florida Olympian
8.Herschel Walker...10.23

Now what conference compares to this...

All Time SEC 100m

lane

1.Calvin Smith...9.93 Alabama Olympian
2.Bernard Williams..9.97 Florida Olympian
3.Coby Miller...9.98 Auburn Olympian
4.Dennis Mitchell..9.91 Florida Olympian
5.Justin Gatlin...9.79 Tenn Olympic bronze medalist
6.Richard Thompson...LSU Trini Olympic silver medalist LSU
7.Tyson Gay...9.69 Arkansas Olympian
8.John Capel...9.96 Ky Olympian

You mentioned Texas had a guy in the Olympics.

How about this...

Isaiah Young...Mississippi 200m
Wallace Spearmon...Arkansas 200m
Justin Gatlin..Tenn 100m
Tyson Gay..Arkansas 100m

Trust me when I tell you thee is no conference remotely close to the SEC when it comes to speed.

"B"

lane

1.John Capel..9.96 Florida
2.Stanley Floyd...10.03 number one in the world in 1980
3.Harvey Glance...10.05 Olympian
4.Marc Burns..9.96 Auburn Trini Olympian
5.Harry Adams..9.96 Auburn
6.Wallace Spearmon 9.96 Arkansas
7.Leonard Scott..9.91 Tennnesse
8.Sam Graddy...10.09 Tennessse Olympian

"C"

lane

1.Trindon Holliday..10.00 LSU
2.Tim Harden...9.98 Ky Olympian
3.Jeff Demps..10.01 Florida Olympian
4.Vincent Henderson...9.98 Arkansas
5.Glenroy Gilbert...10.10 LSU Canada Olympian
6.Cliff Outlin...9.3 Auburn
7.Emmitt King...10.04 Alabama
8.Jim Green...9.2 Ky

The Big 10 has never had a sub10.00 sprinter and neither has USC.

There is no confeence that matchs the SEC when it comes to speed.

[tlongII]

The SEC wins national titles in football because they cheat. Simple as that.

[symple19]

The SEC wins national titles in football because they cheat. Simple as that.

:cry:cry:cry:cry:cry:cry:cry:cry:cry:cry:cry:cry:c ry:cry:cry:cry:cry:cry:cry

[Avante]

The SEC wins national titles in football because they cheat. Simple as that.

The SEC wins titles because they recruit the better football players and more of them. Big fast guys!

[tlongII]

:cry:cry:cry:cry:cry:cry:cry:cry:cry:cry:cry:cry:c ry:cry:cry:cry:cry:cry:cry

How much did Cam's dad get paid from you guys anyway?

[dirk4mvp]

Avante who's your favorite college team btw?

[symple19]

How much did Cam's dad get paid from you guys anyway?

:cry:cry:cry:cry:cry:cry:cry:cry:cry:cry:cry:cry:c ry:cry:cry

[Avante]

Avante who's your favorite college team btw?

USC Trojans, the one team that if they stay healthy can play with an SEC team.

[Avante]

How much did Cam's dad get paid from you guys anyway?

Are you really that naive? Do you really think only the SEC cheats?

[tlongII]

Are you really that naive? Do you really think only the SEC cheats?

Of course I don't. They only cheat the most.

[dirk4mvp]

USC Trojans, the one team that if they stay healthy can play with an SEC team.

I agree. I think they're better than any SEC team this year, for right now anyway.

[monosylab1k]

I agree. I think they're better than any SEC team this year, for right now anyway.

lol ole piss

so they gonna try and break the 4 win barrier this year?

[Avante]

I agree. I think they're better than any SEC team this year, for right now anyway.

As you know because of their situation they do lack depth. As you also know they are already having injuries on the defense. They do not have the depth those SEC teams possess so they have to stay healthy.

[tlongII]

The Ducks are better than USC.

[Avante]

The Ducks are better than USC.

Not according to the last time they played. Who is ranked higher heading into the season? Yes the Ducks are a solid team and could beat anyone, but to make brash statements like that...nay!

[Clipper Nation]

The Ducks are better than USC.

:lmao

Oregon will choke against USC, just like they've gagged on the big stage against Ohio State, Boise State (twice!), Auburn, and LSU....

[Avante]

The bottom line is that the SEC plays monster D the Pac10/12 doesn't and neither does anyone else. At the NCAA level defense is far more important than offense. The SEC plays defense!

[Vito Corleone]

lmao....vito corleone is very upset that SEC schools are better than you..... do you knash your teeth because your university is a joke?

So were all those silly posts directed at me?

Chances that symple19 graduated from any college. Starting at 0%

My school is Texas, it's the school I grew up with and the school most of my family chose to attend. My school is a great business school and it shows from the initial job offers I got. I completed my degree there because my then wife was transferred to Minneapolis. I have no regrets since my degree has opened many doors for me. While there I never once attended a single game, wasn't interested since I had no affinity to them outside of my education.

The sad part about sec fan is that outside of football their schools have nothing to brag about. You could end football in the Big 10, ACC, Pac 10 and Big 12 and those schools would still offer lots. SEC schools offer football and alcohol.

I prefer my experiences to that. The University offers better football than 80% of the SEC and still you get a great education from one of the top 30 universities in the world. After you graduate you get connections with the biggest alumni base in the world.

Color me not impressed with the sec and their retard football team. I'll take Texas any day.

[Vito Corleone]

I am positive no WAC, MWC, or CUSA will ever play for a title, but it's not about politics it's about weak schedule.

Go ahead give me the names of those FSU, Miami, UCLA and USC sprinters in the NFL....good luck. Yes Texas with...Jamaal Charles, Tony Jones, Johnny Jones and Herkie Walls is covered. Goodwin and Eric Metcalfe were long junpers but speedy.

Then there's this...

All Time SEC Football 100m

lane

1.Xavier Carter..10.00 LSU
2.Sam Graddy...10.09 Olympic medalist Tenn
3.Trindon Holliday...10.00 LSU
4.Leonard Scott...9.91 Tenn, fastest time ever ran by any footballer
5.John Capel...9.96 Florida Top ranked in the world
6.Willie Gault...10.01 Tenn Olympian
7.Jeff Demps...10.01 Florida Olympian
8.Herschel Walker...10.23

Now what conference compares to this...

All Time SEC 100m

lane

1.Calvin Smith...9.93 Alabama Olympian
2.Bernard Williams..9.97 Florida Olympian
3.Coby Miller...9.98 Auburn Olympian
4.Dennis Mitchell..9.91 Florida Olympian
5.Justin Gatlin...9.79 Tenn Olympic bronze medalist
6.Richard Thompson...LSU Trini Olympic silver medalist LSU
7.Tyson Gay...9.69 Arkansas Olympian
8.John Capel...9.96 Ky Olympian

You mentioned Texas had a guy in the Olympics.

How about this...

Isaiah Young...Mississippi 200m
Wallace Spearmon...Arkansas 200m
Justin Gatlin..Tenn 100m
Tyson Gay..Arkansas 100m

Trust me when I tell you thee is no conference remotely close to the SEC when it comes to speed.

"B"

lane

1.John Capel..9.96 Florida
2.Stanley Floyd...10.03 number one in the world in 1980
3.Harvey Glance...10.05 Olympian
4.Marc Burns..9.96 Auburn Trini Olympian
5.Harry Adams..9.96 Auburn
6.Wallace Spearmon 9.96 Arkansas
7.Leonard Scott..9.91 Tennnesse
8.Sam Graddy...10.09 Tennessse Olympian

"C"

lane

1.Trindon Holliday..10.00 LSU
2.Tim Harden...9.98 Ky Olympian
3.Jeff Demps..10.01 Florida Olympian
4.Vincent Henderson...9.98 Arkansas
5.Glenroy Gilbert...10.10 LSU Canada Olympian
6.Cliff Outlin...9.3 Auburn
7.Emmitt King...10.04 Alabama
8.Jim Green...9.2 Ky

The Big 10 has never had a sub10.00 sprinter and neither has USC.

There is no confeence that matchs the SEC when it comes to speed.

SEC fans never get it. You are comparing a conference to actual schools. here is a hint. There is no SCHOOL in the SEC that can match Texas The University. We have more gold medals that most countries in this last olympics. I think the medal count would have put Texas in the top 10.

[Avante]

SEC fans never get it. You are comparing a conference to actual schools. here is a hint. There is no SCHOOL in the SEC that can match Texas The University. We have more gold medals that most countries in this last olympics. I think the medal count would have put Texas in the top 10.

I'm a huge track & field fan as you saw. Trust me there is no conference that comes close to matching the SEC when it comes to speed. So cool all that crap about Miami, USC, FSU, Houston etc etc etc. Miami has never had a world class sprinter.

Texas has had a lot of footballer/tracksters, just not the Big12. Texas has never had a "great" sprinter.

So who is the best QB to come out of U of Texas? How about a wide receiver? Sure they have had...

Earl Campbell
Ricky Wiliams
Priest Holmes
Cedric Benson

....but who else?

[The Reckoning]

probably vince young...

though james street was great, and major applewhite is a complete badass.


look up lam jones. im sure thatll be some masturbation material for you.


roy williams is a bust in the nfl, sadly. hopefully shipley will be the next great white hope for UT.


texas is noted for producing a slew of defensive backs, linebackers and linemen.

[dirk4mvp]

lol ole piss

so they gonna try and break the 4 win barrier this year?

At their worst, I would still take them over the mean green at their best :lol

[The Reckoning]

tbh shouldnt ole miss have a black rebel bear on its colors instead of col reb?

[Avante]

probably vince young...

though james street was great, and major applewhite is a complete badass.


look up lam jones. im sure thatll be some masturbation material for you.


roy williams is a bust in the nfl, sadly. hopefully shipley will be the next great white hope for UT.


texas is noted for producing a slew of defensive backs, linebackers and linemen.

I mentioned Johnny Jones already.

Texas has never had a great QB or wide receiver.

As far as sprinters

lane

1.Dean Smith Olympian
2.Jamaal Charles..NFL
3.Amar Johnson
4.Brendan Christian
5.Johnny Jones...Olympian/NFL
6.Tony Jones..NFL
7.Herkie Walls...NFL
8.Jason Leach

No sub10.00 sprinters.

[dirk4mvp]

tbh shouldnt ole miss have a black rebel bear on its colors instead of col reb?


nope that shit is for racist butthurt blacks.

[The Reckoning]

meh. one of the best decathlon athletes in the world is a UT grad. and he's white :wow.


although yeah he started at mississippi state :lol

[Avante]

meh. one of the best decathlon athletes in the world is a UT grad. and he's white :wow.

The best long jumper to ever play in the NFL was a Longhorn...Eric Metcalf

[romad_20]

I don't think USC has the depth on the defensive front line or linebacker that LSU, Bama or UGA has.

I do how ever think they'll have a good year and probably make the BCG, unless Oregon trips them up. Their schedule is a cake walk like UGA's is this year. Besides the Oregon game they should be heavily favored vs the rest and Standford will probably be their 2nd hardest game.

[Avante]

I don't think USC has the depth on the defensive front line or linebacker that LSU, Bama or UGA has.

I do how ever think they'll have a good year and probably make the BCG, unless Oregon trips them up. Their schedule is a cake walk like UGA's is this year. Besides the Oregon game they should be heavily favored vs the rest and Standford will probably be their 2nd hardest game.

With injuries to two stud defenders things aren't as rosey as they were for USC. We all know for them to be the big dog they have to stay healthy, like you mentioned they do not have the depth. They can probably win the Pac12 because those Pac12 defenses aren't all that but in with a stud SEC D without their best 22........hmmm?

[symple19]

http://www.sports-reference.com/olympics/athletes/sm/dean-smith-2.html

Dean Smith of the University of Texas placed fourth in the 1952 Olympic 100m prior to winning a gold medal in the relay. Earlier in the season he won his only major championship when he took the AAU 100m. Smith later worked for many years as a film stuntman.





:wow

http://hotchickswithdouchebags.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/tomato.jpg

[Avante]

http://www.sports-reference.com/olympics/athletes/sm/dean-smith-2.html

Dean Smith of the University of Texas placed fourth in the 1952 Olympic 100m prior to winning a gold medal in the relay. Earlier in the season he won his only major championship when he took the AAU 100m. Smith later worked for many years as a film stuntman.





:wow

Well aware of Smith, I mentioned him in that All Texas 100m. While a good sprinter he wasn't a "great" sprinter. The great ones medal in the Olympic games. Talking individual events.

[Avante]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobby_Layne

He was inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pro_Football_Hall_of_Fame) in 1967 and inducted into the College Football Hall of Fame (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/College_Football_Hall_of_Fame) in 1968. His number, 22, has been retired by the University of Texas Longhorns (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_Longhorns_football) and Detroit Lions (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Detroit_Lions).




(NOT SO FAST MY FRIEND!)

If we go with era, sure Bobby Layne. Keep in mind 243 INTS to 196 TDs. He never passed for over 2400 yards in a season.

[Avante]

goalposts moved

He was a great runner, rushed for over 2000 yards in his career. Scored 25 TD's on the ground. He was also a kicker. Completed less than 50% of his passes.