View Full Version : Romney Says He Paid at Least 13% in Income Taxes
jack sommerset
08-18-2012, 11:41 PM
Do you remember everything you did or signed from 10 years ago?
There are people on this site that can't remember what they posted 10 days ago let alone years. God bless
Wild Cobra
08-19-2012, 12:08 AM
He was a resident of Massachusetts. It doesn't matter if he lived and owned properties in other states. If he used how son's address for his voting record, and not elsewhere, that's all that matters.
boutons_deux
08-19-2012, 03:43 AM
He was a resident of Massachusetts. It doesn't matter if he lived and owned properties in other states. If he used how son's address for his voting record, and not elsewhere, that's all that matters.
"Eventually it came out that Romney had lied. He was forced to pay Massachusetts taxes retroactively, because when he said that the public would have to take his word that he had paid taxes for seven years as a Massachusetts resident, it simply wasn’t true."
A classic 1%er who knows he's ENTITLED to flaunt the rules that the 99% gets fined and/or put in jail for.
Wild Cobra
08-19-2012, 03:59 AM
"Eventually it came out that Romney had lied. He was forced to pay Massachusetts taxes retroactively, because when he said that the public would have to take his word that he had paid taxes for seven years as a Massachusetts resident, it simply wasn’t true."
A classic 1%er who knows he's ENTITLED to flaunt the rules that the 99% gets fined and/or put in jail for.
I only heard people say this shit. I've seen no evidence. His side claims he files as a part time resident of Massachusetts. Have you seen any actual evidence?
boutons_deux
08-19-2012, 07:57 AM
I doubt MSNBC's lawyer would have let Maddow make such candidacy-fatal statements without hard evidence from MA tax authorities or public records like newspaper reports. Gecko has probably paid $Ms to lawyers and cut deals have the records sealed.
If Gecko doesn't deny, then it's true and Gecko paying years of back taxes and lying about residency fatally disqualifies him for Ms of voters.
Of course, for the 1%, avoiding/evading taxes is how they !00% live, so they RESPECT his tax evading as an ENTITLED 1%er, esp a FINANCIAL SECTOR 1%er.
boutons_deux
08-19-2012, 08:17 AM
Romney May Have Violated Ethics Laws Through Company Linked to Paul Ryan's Brother
On Friday, the Telegraph reported [3] that, as governor of Massachusetts, Mitt Romney may have violated state ethics laws when his administration maintained a “lucrative” contract with a company in which he had a financial stake.
The company, Imagitas, had been co-founded by a former executive at Bain and Co., with $5 million in backing from Bain Capital. Paul Ryan's brother, Toby, had also been a senior manager at Bain and Co., working in the same building as Romney, before leaving to become a vice president of Imagitas.
The contract was not awarded by Romney – Imagitas scored it just before he was elected. But according to Telegraph reporter Jon Swaine, “Massachusetts law requires that all state employees divest themselves of financial interests in private sector contracts with state agencies. At the time, failure to do so could have resulted in a $2,000... fine or a 2.5-year prison sentence.” He added that “the potential punishments are now stronger.”
According to the Telegraph, “New state employees were obliged to prevent conflicts of interest with existing contracts. The following year, [Romney] began declaring that his holdings were in a so-called "blind trust" controlled by his lawyer.”
Victor Fleischer, a law professor at the University of Colorado specialising in private equity, said it was “possible but unlikely” that Mr Romney could have completely prevented himself from benefiting from Imagitas.
Records at the Massachusetts commission of ethics show that Mr Romney did not make filings acknowledging the interest and claiming an exemption, as he was entitled to do.
It's worth noting that during his 1994 senate race against Ted Kennedy, who also claimed that he had no knowledge of how funds in his blind trust were invested, Romney attacked him for it, saying, “The blind trust is an age-old ruse.”
Imagitas, an advertising company, also secured contracts with several other states, including Wisconsin, where it was given work by then-Governor Scott McCallum, whom the Telegraph characterized as a “political ally” of Paul Ryan. According to sources cited by the Telegraph, Toby Ryan had been principally responsible for securing the contracts.
Swaine also notes that “Imagitas donated tens of thousands of dollars to the Republican Governors’ Association while it was chaired by Mr Romney. A former Imagitas investor and director donates to both Mr Romney and Paul Ryan, who also received thousands of dollars in contributions from his brother Tobin.”
http://www.alternet.org/print/election-2012/report-romney-may-have-violated-ethics-laws-through-company-linked-paul-ryans-brother
The 1%ers are ENTITLED to flaunt rules and laws.
Wild Cobra
08-19-2012, 05:17 PM
Romney May Have Violated
May have?
Why do you waste out time with unfounded insinuations?
boutons_deux
08-19-2012, 05:38 PM
the facts are stated, it's not up to the writer to convict him of ethics, just state the facts that he may have violated ethics, but of course, as a 1%er, crony capitalism and graft ENTITLES him to do stuff the 99% get convicted for.
mavs>spurs
08-19-2012, 05:40 PM
you guys spend too much time arguing over retarded shit. think about how easy you're being brainwashed boutons. you're more worried about romney's tax returns than real political issues. don't you see that obama is doing this as part of a slander campaign, because he can't actually run on his TRACK RECORD as president?
look, nobody gives a fuck. we know romney is rich, good for him. like i've already said, i don't blame romney for not paying more than is required. blame the system, and ask yourself why the lefties haven't done anything to change it.
Clipper Nation
08-19-2012, 06:47 PM
And Willard IS running on his record? Both of them are exactly the same policy-wise tbh....
mavs>spurs
08-19-2012, 06:56 PM
Romney isn't the one going around campaigning on personal attacks. He has plenty of ammo just by pointing out Obama's failures, he doesn't need to go after him personally.
boutons_deux
08-19-2012, 07:33 PM
And Willard IS running on his record? Both of them are exactly the same policy-wise tbh....
absolutely not.
Hiring Ryan as his brains and policy man, Gecko now present a HUGE difference from Obama and them Dems. H U G E
Now there's a real choice between Obama and the NoWhereMan Empty Gecko fleshed out with Ryan's history and policies.
Clipper Nation
08-19-2012, 08:15 PM
absolutely not.
Hiring Ryan as his brains and policy man, Gecko now present a HUGE difference from Obama and them Dems. H U G E
Not really.... one ticket's untenable budget plan makes miniscule cuts to defense, the other's untenable budget plan makes no cuts to defense... aside from that, we will continue to lose our liberties and be subjected to the whims of the Fed's printing press whether it's Willard or Obama, tbh....
Clipper Nation
08-19-2012, 08:18 PM
Romney isn't the one going around campaigning on personal attacks. He has plenty of ammo just by pointing out Obama's failures, he doesn't need to go after him personally.
Willard's entire campaign so far can be boiled down to three sentences, tbh...
"Vote out the black man"
"Obama said you didn't build that, so HE HATES SMALL BID'NESS N' MURICAN SUCCESS"
"I paid taxes, honest, but you people don't get to see the proof"
Where's the significant policy differences? Because if there were any, Willard would have long since run them into the ground, tbh....
mavs>spurs
08-19-2012, 09:06 PM
lol romney hasn't run on any of those things actually.
first off, the only one who has brought up race was closet racist biden.
secondly, obama really did actually kind of say that. it speaks for itself.
finally, you're suggesting romney is campaigning on his tax returns? think about what you just said.
mavs>spurs
08-19-2012, 09:08 PM
the difference is that romney doesn't want to shut down coal plants, he actually wants to use our natural resources to our advantage and start drilling our own oil instead of importing it from the middle east and south america. most people don't know that we actually have the biggest oil deposits in the world and don't even use them for some odd reason. under romney we could have cheaper energy. romney also wants to take the money obama stole out of medicaid and put it back.
Clipper Nation
08-19-2012, 09:19 PM
the difference is that romney doesn't want to shut down coal plants, he actually wants to use our natural resources to our advantage and start drilling our own oil instead of importing it from the middle east and south america. most people don't know that we actually have the biggest oil deposits in the world and don't even use them for some odd reason. under romney we could have cheaper energy. romney also wants to take the money obama stole out of medicaid and put it back.
So? Neither of them differ on the real issues: the Federal Reserve's wanton money-printing, the erosion of our civil liberties, and our out-of-control foreign policy, tbh..... do you really think Willard will be any less quick to start a war or beg for another toxic round of QE than Obama?
mavs>spurs
08-19-2012, 09:27 PM
neither option sounds good and am not a romney fan by any means, but those are a couple of reasons why i feel he is the better option than the kenyan we have currently. I wanted ron paul to win tbh.
AFBlue
08-19-2012, 09:36 PM
So? Neither of them differ on the real issues: the Federal Reserve's wanton money-printing, the erosion of our civil liberties, and our out-of-control foreign policy, tbh..... do you really think Willard will be any less quick to start a war or beg for another toxic round of QE than Obama?
You reek of Ron Paul. Disregarding substantive policy differences between the two legitimate candidates and highlighting the Paul platform (e.g. down with the fed and war) as the only "real" issues.
I'm not actually going to downplay the Paul platform because he brings up valid points on both fronts (amidst the incoherent babbling), but you sound like such an idiot when you deny contrast between the only realistic options for the next four years.
boutons_deux
08-19-2012, 09:42 PM
the difference is that romney doesn't want to shut down coal plants, he actually wants to use our natural resources to our advantage and start drilling our own oil instead of importing it from the middle east and south america. most people don't know that we actually have the biggest oil deposits in the world and don't even use them for some odd reason. under romney we could have cheaper energy. romney also wants to take the money obama stole out of medicaid and put it back.
Gecko wants to kill clean energy tax breaks (pissing off Repug governors in big wind/solar states), and crank up coal, while the market is quickly replacing coal with bogusly "clean" NG.
USA doesn't have enough water to frack up shale oil. If this multi-year drought continues for a 7,8 years like in the 50s, then rivers and aquifers won't support the farming.
I'm sure USA will fuck up their energy future because the carbon industries have bought enough politicians to get whatever they want to maintain and increase their profits.
USA will never be 100% self-reliant on oil (only unless renewable energy knocks down the requirement for oil to levels from US sources. We know XL tar is going to the Port Arthur free enterprise zone then to overseas markets, and NG is going there, too.
mavs>spurs
08-19-2012, 10:03 PM
no, he wants to use all sources of energy, ESPECIALLY natural gas. he is campaigning on natural gas you fucktard, i've heard him mention it in a couple of speeches.
the tax credits are only another form of corporate cronyism, if you're on the "inside" you don't pay taxes while the competition is at a disadvantage.
and don't bet against ways being developed in the near future to take advantage of all that oil, unless the oil refineries who make money off importing the stuff from abroad block it. the owners of said newly found oil could simply refine it themselves.
Wild Cobra
08-19-2012, 10:46 PM
no, he wants to use all sources of energy, ESPECIALLY natural gas. he is campaigning on natural gas you fucktard, i've heard him mention it in a couple of speeches.
the tax credits are only another form of corporate cronyism, if you're on the "inside" you don't pay taxes while the competition is at a disadvantage.
and don't bet against ways being developed in the near future to take advantage of all that oil, unless the oil refineries who make money off importing the stuff from abroad block it. the owners of said newly found oil could simply refine it themselves.
This is what I thought, but I wasn't sure.
Yes, Shazbot is a fucktard.
boutons_deux
08-20-2012, 12:18 PM
Mitt Romney 2011 Tax Return To Be Released By October 15, Ed Gillespie Says
Republican U.S. presidential challenger Mitt Romney plans to make public his 2011 tax return by Oct. 15, a senior campaign adviser said on Sunday, as President Barack Obama's re-election team pressed its criticism of Romney's decision not to disclose more about his personal taxes.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/19/mitt-romney-tax-returns-2011-october-15_n_1807433.html?view=print&comm_ref=false
what a great guy, finally coming clean! :lol
leemajors
08-23-2012, 12:49 PM
I don't understand this stuff, but Gawker just dropped a Bain "expose" - 950 pages of Bain documents
http://gawker.com/5936394/the-bain-files-inside-mitt-romneys-tax+dodging-cayman-schemes
boutons_deux
08-23-2012, 12:53 PM
no, he wants to use all sources of energy, ESPECIALLY natural gas. he is campaigning on natural gas you fucktard, i've heard him mention it in a couple of speeches.
the tax credits are only another form of corporate cronyism, if you're on the "inside" you don't pay taxes while the competition is at a disadvantage.
and don't bet against ways being developed in the near future to take advantage of all that oil, unless the oil refineries who make money off importing the stuff from abroad block it. the owners of said newly found oil could simply refine it themselves.
You Lie
Gecko wants NO clean energy stimulus, tax breaks, nothing.
Even Boone Pickens is bitching because Gecko energy plan talks about nothing but oil.
Ryan has $45B of oil tax breaks in his budget, greatly benefiting his oil stock holdings.
boutons_deux
08-23-2012, 01:01 PM
I don't understand this stuff, but Gawker just dropped a Bain "expose" - 950 pages of Bain documents
http://gawker.com/5936394/the-bain-files-inside-mitt-romneys-tax+dodging-cayman-schemes
If legit (which Gecko isn't, he's a sicko secretive tax cheat), this could be a bombshell, right before Repug convention.
boutons_deux
08-23-2012, 02:39 PM
Romney isn't the one going around campaigning on personal attacks. He has plenty of ammo just by pointing out Obama's failures, he doesn't need to go after him personally.
what personal attacks?
He WAS running on his business record, so his Bain years (not even clear which those are) are FAIR GAME and not personal
He STILL RUNS AWAY from his MA socialistic health plan, so his running away his fair game.
You ain't seen no personal, swift-boat attacks until Karl Rove carpet bombs Obama after next week's Repug convention and until November.
boutons_deux
08-24-2012, 08:20 AM
Should Romney's faith keep his taxes out of the public eye?
Mitt Romney believes that one of the “downsides” of releasing information about his finances — and presumably more than the two years of taxes he has been willing to reveal — is that it would reveal how much he has given to the Mormon Church, the presidential candidate said in an interview with Parade magazine.
Asked about tithing, the custom by which Mormons are expected to donate 10% of their income to the church, Ann Romney told the magazine: “I love tithing. When Mitt and I give that check, I actually cry.”
( :lol You People should consider Queen Ann one stupid, entitled, out-of-touch 1% bitch. )
“So do I, but for a different reason,” Romney added, in an interview to be published this weekend. “Our church doesn't publish how much people have given. This is done entirely privately. One of the downsides of releasing one's financial information is that this is now all public, but we had never intended our contributions to be known. It's a very personal thing between ourselves and our commitment to our God and to our church.”
But based on the 2010 return he has already released and projections of his 2011 return, the public already knows that the Romneys gave more than $4 million directly to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. The church got more money from the couple in those years via the Tyler Charitable Foundation, a nonprofit they control.
Democrats and even many Republicans have urged Romney for months to put more of his returns before the public. But the candidate has said that the two years of returns — plus years of financial disclosure forms from his time as governor of Massachusetts — tell voters all they need to know.
Ann Romney tried to close the door on the matter last month during an appearance on ABC’s “Good Morning America,” saying she and her husband had provided all the information people need “to know and understand about our financial situation and how we live our life.” To share more, she said, would only open the door to more “attacks.”
It’s hard to imagine how the religious privacy argument is going to change many people’s minds. People know about the Romneys’ close ties to the LDS church. They want to see the additional returns to clear up some remaining questions— particularly about how the multimillionaire has invested his money and the tax rate he has paid, compared with average Americans.
Voters who want answers will ask why Romney’s relationship with God is so special that he has dispensation to reveal less than virtually every other presidential candidate in modern history.
http://mobile.latimes.com/p.p?m=b&a=rp&id=2609610&postId=2609610&postUserId=7&sessionToken=&catId=5217&curAbsIndex=1&resultsUrl=DID%3D6%26DFCL%3D1000%26DSB%3Drank%2523 desc%26DBFQ%3DuserId%253A7%26DL.w%3D%26DL.d%3D10%2 6DQ%3DsectionId%253A5217%26DPS%3D0%26DPL%3D3
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