Shooting at elementary school

[spursncowboys]

Higher ups have to CYA

[Th'Pusher]

None. Soldiers are not allowed to carry personal weapons what-so-ever. Can't even have them in your house if you live on post. When you sign out weapons from your unit arms room, most first sergeants won't let you go anywhere from your building until all weapons are accounted for and back in the arms room. Furthermore it takes quite a bit of paperwork to get ammo. The ammo, normally is met with your unit at the range. After words you are patted down and all your equipment and clothing is rummaged through for lost ammo. unused rounds and dunnage (empty shells) are counted and have to match the amount you originally went out with. It's very tedious but VERY thorough.
So there is stricter gun control for thoroughly trained military personnel on base than for civilians walking around outside fort hood? That's interesting.

[Drachen]

None. Soldiers are not allowed to carry personal weapons what-so-ever. Can't even have them in your house if you live on post. When you sign out weapons from your unit arms room, most first sergeants won't let you go anywhere from your building until all weapons are accounted for and back in the arms room. Furthermore it takes quite a bit of paperwork to get ammo. The ammo, normally is met with your unit at the range. After words you are patted down and all your equipment and clothing is rummaged through for lost ammo. unused rounds and dunnage (empty shells) are counted and have to match the amount you originally went out with. It's very tedious but VERY thorough.


Fair enough. Did they say how he got his gun?

[boutons_deux]

None. Soldiers are not allowed to carry personal weapons what-so-ever. Can't even have them in your house if you live on post. When you sign out weapons from your unit arms room, most first sergeants won't let you go anywhere from your building until all weapons are accounted for and back in the arms room. Furthermore it takes quite a bit of paperwork to get ammo. The ammo, normally is met with your unit at the range. After words you are patted down and all your equipment and clothing is rummaged through for lost ammo. unused rounds and dunnage (empty shells) are counted and have to match the amount you originally went out with. It's very tedious but VERY thorough.

more evidence that the extreme right-wing coup that took over control of the NRA in the late 1970s has nothing do with the 2nd Amendment or "rights" or "self defense". It's all about polarizing and dividing America while shilling for the guns-and-ammo industry.

NRA's press conference Friday will be hilarious bullshit.

[Shastafarian]

Immigrant is anyone who moved there. It's not just Africans and Latinos. Nice misdirection though. I didn't mention immigrants. I mentioned Africans and Latinos. They comprise a minority of the population but a majority of the crime. Their respective countries are very much under developed because of the fact the indigenous population has a genetic code that makes them predisposed to being poor social creatures. Asians come here from under developed countries and they seem to do just fine for the most part. Latinos and Americanized Africans though come from a culture of living off the grid and even those who succeed in legit business prefer to do most of their bidding off the grid. They take small profits in things others do not consider a profit venture, like going out to lunch with a friend. They do not pay, they get free lunch, that's a profit. They don't leave a tip, they get off cheaper, that's a profit. They haggle prices on menial shit and save a dollar, that's a profit. They feel very good about themselves afterward. They respect people who live off the grid, by hook or by crook. They are wary of people who vote and pay taxes, who have an education and hold a steady job. That's a recipe for a high gun crime rate. You will almost never see one of them turn down a "too good to be true" offer like buying stolen merchandise. They see it as someone else's loss. Italians are very similar. This country is comprised of people who didn't hail from those low gun crime countries. I have no idea why people compare us to them.

Didn't realize Africa and Latin America were "countries". I guess you're assuming people from every african and latin america country are the same. I would also like to see this research on the genetic code determining social wherewithal.

Seriously though this is a joke that just went over our heads right?

[scott]

So there is stricter gun control for thoroughly trained military personnel on base than for civilians walking around outside fort hood? That's interesting.

But not surprising. We have tighten controls on who drive a car and who votes than who can buy a gun.

[TDMVPDPOY]

NRA only has 3m registered members, wtf is the politicians/citizens afraid of this gun lobby group?

[boutons_deux]

NRA only has 3m registered members, wtf is the politicians/citizens afraid of this gun lobby group?

non-NRA member citizens count for zilch, totally disenfranchised.

The NRAs' and the guns-and-ammo industry's $10Ms buy politicians.

[DMC]

Didn't realize Africa and Latin America were "countries". I guess you're assuming people from every african and latin america country are the same. I would also like to see this research on the genetic code determining social wherewithal.

Seriously though this is a joke that just went over our heads right?

If you look at the list of murder rates by country, the Latin American countries and African countries rank at the top. The people don't all have to be the same for the affect to be felt. That seems like common sense.

I see you haven't addressed why the prison population is predominately African Americans and Latin Americans.

[DMC]

http://25.media.tumblr.com/473b8bcce3dae2fb68556d6129c57994/tumblr_mf2umaMm531r72z2uo1_r1_500.png


http://upwithchris.tumblr.com/post/38067278926/a-grim-reminder-that-children-are-often

Of course, preschoolers cannot shoot back.

[ChumpDumper]

If you look at the list of murder rates by country, the Latin American countries and African countries rank at the top. The people don't all have to be the same for the affect to be felt. That seems like common sense.Why do so many Latin American countries have lower murder rates than the US?

[cantthinkofanything]

Why do so many Latin American countries have lower murder rates than the US?

Siesta.

[Shastafarian]

If you look at the list of murder rates by country, the Latin American countries and African countries rank at the top. The people don't all have to be the same for the affect to be felt. That seems like common sense.

I see you haven't addressed why the prison population is predominately African Americans and Latin Americans.
I'm sorry I can't respond until you explain your knowledge of genetics and cultural differences in Africa and Latin America.

[DMC]

I'm sorry I can't respond until you explain your knowledge of genetics and cultural differences in Africa and Latin America.

Genetics is my profession.

[DMC]

Why do so many Latin American countries have lower murder rates than the US?
Latin America has the highest murder rate:

http://laht.com/article.asp?CategoryId=12394&ArticleId=356867

Your question is otherwise a red herring.

[Shastafarian]

Genetics is my profession.
Then it shouldn't be a problem for you to explain.

I can create a new thread for you if you like.

[LnGrrrR]

So there is stricter gun control for thoroughly trained military personnel on base than for civilians walking around outside fort hood? That's interesting.

Yes. In fact, not just guns, but nearly any type of weapon must be stored in the armory: nunchuks, swords, etc etc. I think they even have one for knives of a certain size (think machetes)... However, there are probably a few people who hide them in their house anyways.

[Koolaid_Man]

Immigrant is anyone who moved there. It's not just Africans and Latinos. Nice misdirection though. I didn't mention immigrants. I mentioned Africans and Latinos. They comprise a minority of the population but a majority of the crime. Their respective countries are very much under developed because of the fact the indigenous population has a genetic code that makes them predisposed to being poor social creatures. Asians come here from under developed countries and they seem to do just fine for the most part. Latinos and Americanized Africans though come from a culture of living off the grid and even those who succeed in legit business prefer to do most of their bidding off the grid. They take small profits in things others do not consider a profit venture, like going out to lunch with a friend. They do not pay, they get free lunch, that's a profit. They don't leave a tip, they get off cheaper, that's a profit. They haggle prices on menial shit and save a dollar, that's a profit. They feel very good about themselves afterward. They respect people who live off the grid, by hook or by crook. They are wary of people who vote and pay taxes, who have an education and hold a steady job. That's a recipe for a high gun crime rate. You will almost never see one of them turn down a "too good to be true" offer like buying stolen merchandise. They see it as someone else's loss. Italians are very similar. This country is comprised of people who didn't hail from those low gun crime countries. I have no idea why people compare us to them.


there's never a dull moment with your ignorance always on display...

listen...Imma black dude with at least 1/2 dozen close Asian friends...let me say that many of them come from families back home that have govnt connections in their home country...they use most of the money they funnel to the US as capital for start-ups...most importantly most of my Asians friends earn 6 figure salaries most are either in Pharmacy, accounting, or IT...and they steal shit (like cable, movies, music, and all kinds of electronic media hacks like you wouldn't believe. Can they afford it? Absolutely...

Kool I'm just happy to be friends with them....I'm always looking for a sweet deal...whether it's from the crack head at the barbershop or one of my Asian buddies

[DMC]

Then it shouldn't be a problem for you to explain.

I can create a new thread for you if you like.

When you tell me your education and knowledge of genetics, I will discuss it with you.

[boutons_deux]

Of course, preschoolers cannot shoot back.

Cops will murder any unarmed, non-threatening, fleeing suspect in the back.

[Shastafarian]

When you tell me your education and knowledge of genetics, I will discuss it with you.

:rollin Amazing. I took several genetics courses in undergrad and one is graduate school. I think I can understand genetics as you do

[DMC]

:rollin Amazing. I took several genetics courses in undergrad and one is graduate school. I think I can understand genetics as you do

Do some research on Dr Todd Armstrong and cross reference MAO-A.

[Shastafarian]

Do some research on Dr Todd Armstrong and cross reference MAO-A.
Doesn't explain your statement, "Their respective countries are very much under developed because of the fact the indigenous population has a genetic code that makes them predisposed to being poor social creatures."

[ChumpDumper]

Latin America has the highest murder rate:

http://laht.com/article.asp?CategoryId=12394&ArticleId=356867

Your question is otherwise a red herring.Latin America is not a country. Your stupid generalization is a stupid generalization. Your failure to understand the difference between a country and a region is a failure.

[boutons_deux]

Top Conservative Publication: Shooting Occurred Because Women Ran The School (http://thinkprogress.org.feedsportal.com/c/34726/f/638927/s/26c4966b/l/0Lthinkprogress0Borg0Cjustice0C20A120C120C190C1361 5210Ctop0Econservative0Epublication0Enewtown0Ehapp ened0Ebecause0Ewomen0Eran0Ethe0Eschool0C/story01.htm)

National Review:

There was not a single adult male on the school premises when the shooting occurred.

In this school of 450 students, a sizeable number of whom were undoubtedly 11- and 12-year-old boys (it was a K–6 school), all the personnel — the teachers, the principal, the assistant principal, the school psychologist, the “reading specialist” — were female. There didn’t even seem to be a male janitor to heave his bucket at Adam Lanza’s knees.

Women and small children are sitting ducks for mass-murderers. The principal, Dawn Hochsprung, seemed to have performed bravely.

According to reports, she activated the school’s public-address system and also lunged at Lanza, before he shot her to death.

Some of the teachers managed to save all or some of their charges by rushing them into closets or bathrooms.

But in general, a feminized setting is a setting in which helpless passivity is the norm.

Male aggression can be a good thing, as in protecting the weak — but it has been forced out of the culture of elementary schools and the education schools that train their personnel.

Think of what Sandy Hook might have been like if a couple of male teachers who had played high-school football, or even some of the huskier 12-year-old boys, had converged on Lanza.

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2012/12/19/1361521/top-conservative-publication-newtown-happened-because-women-ran-the-school/



Maybe men didn't want to take the shitty wages that "overpaid, underworked" school teachers what Repugs/VRWC/ALEX love to whine about and demonize??




(http://thinkprogress.org.feedsportal.com/c/34726/f/638927/s/26c4966b/l/0Lthinkprogress0Borg0Cjustice0C20A120C120C190C1361 5210Ctop0Econservative0Epublication0Enewtown0Ehapp ened0Ebecause0Ewomen0Eran0Ethe0Eschool0C/story01.htm)

[ChumpDumper]

Do some research on Dr Todd Armstrong and cross reference MAO-A.Do some research and find out what a country is.

[Shastafarian]

I really want to hear more about how the genetics of Africans and Latin Americans differ from others.

[ChumpDumper]

I want to hear more about the country of Latin America.

Probably has a pretty cool flag.

[Koolaid_Man]

Check it out:

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a68...ezey/okids.jpg (http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a68/Koolbreezey/okids.jpg)

even a little Asian baby getting in on the action :lol

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a68.../onthe-reg.jpg (http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a68/Koolbreezey/onthe-reg.jpg)

The love is real:

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a68...reezey/OB1.jpg (http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a68/Koolbreezey/OB1.jpg)

If I could just touch his finger :lol

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a68...reezey/ob3.jpg (http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a68/Koolbreezey/ob3.jpg)

He's even let them take over the Oval Office (where the nuke codes are kept)..they're everywhere...:lol

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a68...reezey/ob2.jpg (http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a68/Koolbreezey/ob2.jpg)

[Shastafarian]

I want to hear more about the country of Latin America.

Probably has a pretty cool flag.

It's pretty busy looking

http://melatesupermegachidoymas.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/latin-american-flags.jpg

[ChumpDumper]

Why do so many Latin American countries have lower murder rates than the US?


Latin America has the highest murder rate:

http://laht.com/article.asp?CategoryId=12394&ArticleId=356867

Your question is otherwise a red herring.
No. When you get your terminology and facts straight we can actually have a meaningful discussion. Until then you're just engaging in ignorant ranting.crofl

[boutons_deux]

North Carolina Tea Party Group Hosts ‘Great Gun Giveaway’ Before All Newtown Victims Are Even Buried (http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2012/12/19/1357301/north-carolina-tea-party-group-hosts-great-gun-giveaway-before-all-newtown-victims-are-even-buried/)

By Adam Peck (http://thinkprogress.org/author/apeck/) on Dec 19, 2012 at 5:30 pm

Even the National Rifle Association, hardly a bastion of liberal thinking, was self-aware enough to temporarily suspend their social media accounts and exercise restraint before finally issuing a statement four days after the tragedy. The Asheville Tea Party has no such moral quandaries. On Monday, the group posted a flyer (http://ashevilleteaparty.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/gun-flyer-new.jpg) for a fundraiser they are calling “The Great Gun Giveaway.” They link back to a donate page where supporters can enter for a chance to win one of two semi-automatic guns, a .22 magnum handgun and an AR-15 assault rifle with two 30-round clips.

If that second gun sounds at all familiar, it’s probably because the same gun was used in Newtown to murder 20 children and six others less than a week ago.

Only after word of the gun raffle began circulating on social media sites did the group post a letter (http://ashevilleteaparty.org/?p=5096) in response to charges of insensitivity and disrespect for the dead — many of whom have yet to be buried. But rather than reschedule their

fundraiser or even offer an apology for their poor timing, the chair of the group’s PAC instead defended the raffle and argued for introducing more guns into public schools:

We have given the Federal Government permission to disarm school officials by force of law and threat of imprisonment. They are now incapable of defending the children under their care. This is the reality. Does this not need to be changed?…ATPAC decided to go through with this raffle at this time because everyone is paying attention. We refuse to allow the Left and the Liberal mindset to once again hijack the conversation as they have and allow the political hacks to pass laws that continue to limit our inalienable right to protect ourselves and the most defenseless among us.

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2012/12/19/1357301/north-carolina-tea-party-group-hosts-great-gun-giveaway-before-all-newtown-victims-are-even-buried/
Fucking Confederacy, really a different planet.

[TeyshaBlue]

" Before All Newtown Victims Are Even Buried"

flaming hypocrites.