AFC WildCard: Colts at Ravens

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

The AFC really did get a lot worse, tbh... the pathetic Chargers with Philbilly in rare form were in the playoff picture for most of the year, nuff said....

Btw good job ignoring the rest of the post, like the Colts' having a better record against NFC teams that they do AFC teams this year.

[Creepn]

Creepn - did you every play football?

Free saftey and kickoff return.

[SanAntonioSpurs23]

Stop bringing up a tanked record to prop up Luck shit!


So Gary Barckett, Joseph Addai, Melvin Bullitt etc tanked so the Colts could get Luck and they could lose their jobs?

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

:lol Clipper Nation avoiding this thread like mookie avoiding the salad bar after his Chargers' argument

[DeadlyDynasty]

:lmao the Chargers had a BETTER record in last year's AFC than they did in this year's AFC
:lmao attempting to use them as proof the AFC got a lot worse
Clipper Nation doesn't wanna go to da sidelines and talk to the ollllllllllllllllllllllllll ball coach efter det one!

[Clipper Nation]

:lol Clipper Nation (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=28500) avoiding this thread like mookie avoiding the salad bar after his Chargers' argument
Son, I've moved on to this epic matchup of the top two rookie QB's :lol

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Son, I've moved on to this epic matchup of the top two rookie QB's :lol

:lol refusing to admit that argument was retarded
:lol losing the argument and then saying you've "moved on"

[Clipper Nation]

:lol refusing to admit that argument was retarded
:lol losing the argument and then saying you've "moved on"
Tbh, it wasn't very retarded, imho... over the past two years, the AFC has fallen off hard, which is why the Colts could turn it around so quickly.... and frankly, it's not that hard to do better than Curtis Painter, imho....

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Tbh, it wasn't very retarded, imho... over the past two years, the AFC has fallen off hard

So the Chargers' record getting worse as a demonstration that the AFC got worse was a good argument?

[DPG21920]

Free saftey and kickoff return.

So did you play in College, High School - how far did you go?

[Avante]

Running QB..first down.

[LnGrrrR]

Luck's good now, he'll get better. He'll learn which throws he can and can't make, and which receivers he can and can't trust.

[Clipper Nation]

So the Chargers' record getting worse as a demonstration that the AFC got worse was a good argument?
How does the fact that an even worse Charger team than last year was still in the playoff hunt for most of the year not reflect poorly on the AFC?

When a suck-ass team that gets worse every year is still in the playoff hunt, that shows that their conference is shallow and not that good overall....

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

How does the fact that an even worse Charger team than last year was still in the playoff hunt for most of the year not reflect poorly on the AFC?

When a suck-ass team that gets worse every year is still in the playoff hunt, that shows that their conference is shallow and not that good overall....
Now you're moving the goal posts completely. You originally stated that the Chargers were proof the AFC got significantly worse from last year to this year. You're now changing it to the more broad statement that the Chargers being in the playoff hunt reflects poorly on the AFC because your previous comment doesn't have a leg to stand on.

Explain how it proves the AFC got significantly worse from last year to this year. I never disagreed the AFC sucks, but it sucked last year when the 8-8 Donks and 9-7 Bengals made the playoffs while the Colts only won 2 games.

[DPG21920]

No one is saying the conference is good, they are saying you lied when using the Chargers as an example it getting better when they won more games last year.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

No one is saying the conference is good, they are saying you lied when using the Chargers as an example it getting better when they won more games last year.

He's changing his argument by using the strawman someone said the AFC was good. It's intellectually dishonest just like every other argument trying to discredit Luck.

[J.T.]

Luck played well despite two turnovers and tons of drops by his receivers. Vick Ballard was terrible on pass protecting his QB, often looking frantically for someone to block while Luck was already being taken to the ground. The Colts defense did a great job overall. Gave up the big play a couple times but also created turnovers and gave Luck enough chances. Flacco didn't throw at Vontae Davis once in the 2nd half which is when Boldin went off. Overall great season, we were playing with house money the moment the news about Chuck getting cancer broke. The fact that the team came together and made the playoffs is a great story and I think the Colts are gonna be alright despite probably having to watch Peyton win the Super Bowl his first season after cutting him (although I do think 18 wouldn't have finished the season behind the Colts line)

[Clipper Nation]

In 2011, every division in the AFC had at least two teams with a .500 record or better... this year, the AFC East and AFC West only had one....

Pittsburgh, the Jets, Tennessee, Oakland, Jacksonville, and Kansas City got significantly worse, and some of those were already bad teams to begin with....

[Avante]

Who gives a fuck about the Chargers?

[Trill Clinton]

luck choked...get over it already lol

[HI-FI]

Luck played well despite two turnovers and tons of drops by his receivers. Vick Ballard was terrible on pass protecting his QB, often looking frantically for someone to block while Luck was already being taken to the ground. The Colts defense did a great job overall. Gave up the big play a couple times but also created turnovers and gave Luck enough chances. Flacco didn't throw at Vontae Davis once in the 2nd half which is when Boldin went off. Overall great season, we were playing with house money the moment the news about Chuck getting cancer broke. The fact that the team came together and made the playoffs is a great story and I think the Colts are gonna be alright despite probably having to watch Peyton win the Super Bowl his first season after cutting him (although I do think 18 wouldn't have finished the season behind the Colts line)
according to the Luck fanboys, Chuckstrong had nothing to do with the team coming together and playing well. it was Luck single handedly carrying the team, even with his 26th ranked passer rating and 18th ranked offense.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

In 2011, every division in the AFC had at least two teams with a .500 record or better... this year, the AFC East and AFC West only had one....
Last year, an 8-8 team win its division. This year, the worst division winning record was 10-6. Cherry picking examples like you did here is about as bad as your argument that the Chargers going from 8-8 to 7-9 is proof the AFC got worse.


Pittsburgh, the Jets, Tennessee, Oakland, Jacksonville, and Kansas City got significantly worse, and some of those were already bad teams to begin with....
1) So you're abandoning the Chargers' argument? Why? I thought it was a great example?

2) The Colts were 3-1 against NFC teams, 2 of their 3 wins were against playoff teams. They went 0-4 against NFC teams last year, so 3 of their additional 9 wins have nothing to do with the AFC. Their record against the AFC (8-4) is worse than their record against the NFC (3-1). Why do you keep dodging this?

3) The Colts didn't play Oakland or Pittsburgh this year while they lost to the Jets, so I'm not how those 3 teams getting worse contributed to the Colts' record getting better. Regarding the other ones-

I'll give you KC, so that's 1 additional win.

They went 1-1 against Tennessee last year and 2-0 this year, so that's 2 total additional win that can be attributed to a weaker AFC.

They went 0-2 against Jacksonville last year and 1-1 against them this year, so that's additional wins total, however it's retarded to pretend this years' Colts would have gone 0-2 against last years' Baguars.


In conclusion, you've managed so far to attribute 2-3 additional wins that are attributable to the AFC getting weaker. When you get the chance, get back to me on where their 6-7 additional wins not attributable to anything you just said came from. denks :tu

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

according to the Luck fanboys, Chuckstrong had nothing to do with the team coming together and playing well.

If you didn't have the reading comprehension skills of a 5th grader with down syndrome, you would have seen JT's post implied that losing Pagano to cancer caused him to downgrade his expectations of the Colts, hence why he said "we were playing with house money."

When I see someone try to say that losing a coach for most of the season helps a team more than the QB does, it makes me lose a little faith in mankind.

[SanAntonioSpurs23]

I remember everyone saying that Manning would never "live up to the hype" after his poor statistical rookie year as well.

We all know how that turned out.

[Clipper Nation]

Last year, an 8-8 team win its division. This year, the worst division winning record was 10-6. Cherry picking examples like you did here is about as bad as your argument that the Chargers going from 8-8 to 7-9 is proof the AFC got worse.
If you're going to misrepresent my argument then there's no point in debating you.... the Chargers' record and roster got worse this year for sure, but the AFC was bad enough for that worse Chargers team to still be in the playoff hunt for most of the year, despite getting worse from their non-playoff team from last year... THAT is my point...

I'm not saying that the AFC got worse just because the Chargers got worse, but because the Chargers got worse AND still could have made the playoffs.... also, the Steelers got significantly worse this year but still could have gotten in by beating the Bengals...

[DPG21920]

I have to vote for DoK in this argument. You done goof'd ^

[rayray2k8]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzZbWHjyqJY
Shame that its his last game at home.. It is amazing that he came back from that type of injury and actually played well.
If his last game is in Denver, then so be it.. But I'm sure the Ravens will give them a fight, if not they'll go down swinging. Cant wait for Saturday.