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Avante
01-15-2013, 12:19 AM
Would ya believe they came from another pro league? They came into existence in 1946 as a member of the All American Football Conference. They spent 4 seasons there going 38-14-2. Entered the NFL in 1950.
The Niners had the first back to have consecutive 1000 yard seasons in Joe "The Jet" Perry, that was 53/54. They had the first HBCU back to gain a 1000 yards in a season in NCA&T's J.D.Smith, a cornerback made into a running back. The Niners are the only team to have 4 future HOFers in their backfield all there at the same time.
QB..Y.A.Tittle LSU
RB..Hugh "The King" McElhenny Washington
FB..John Henry Johnson ASU (more a Steeler however)
FB..Joe "The Jet" Perry...Compton JC (only JC only player to ever have an NFL 1000 yard season)
The shot gun formation started with the Niners. As did the Alley Oop pass, that was a pass simply thrown up there from Tittle for basketballer R.C.Owens to go get.
No team has had a better gang of QB's than...
Y.A.Tittle
John Brodie
Joe Montana
Steve Young
Lesser degree...Jim Plunkett, Jeff Garcia, Alex Smith, Colin Kaepernick
No team has had bigger names playing wide receiver than....Jerry Rice, Terrell Owens, Randy Moss. The greatest QB ever was a Niner, as was the best WR. It gets no better than Montana/Young to Rice.
When it comes to Superbowls they are right there with the Cowboys as the most successful coming out of the NFC. They have their legendary coach in Bill Walsh, who made a huge impact on the game.
Hall of famers other than the 4 mentioned.
Joe Montana
Steve Young
Jerry Rice
Dave Wilcox
Bob St. Clair
Leo Nomellini
Ronnie Lott
O.J.Simpson....obviously a Bill
Bob Hayes...obviously a Cowboy
Now here they are again just a game away at another shot at that Championship belt. Just like last season, only this time the game won't be fumbled away as those Niner big guys beat up on some Falcons.
Can they beat the Patriots? Well hell they already did. But can they do it again in the biggie? I do have my doubts, these Niners have never been there while those Pats have, will Tom Brady lose again, I gotta doubt it. We will miss both Manningham and Hunter. Moss and James a step down.
But ya never know and stranger things have happened.
What team is superior to...
QB..Joe Montana
RB..Frank Gore
RB..Roger Craig
WR...Jerry Rice
WR...Terrell Owens
TE...Vernon Davis
Lincoln
01-15-2013, 12:23 AM
Who fucking cares.
Clipper Nation
01-15-2013, 12:29 AM
I really do love how Avante keeps spamming about the Pats/Niners Super Bowl that's "definitely going to happen"... with his shitful takes and lefty-esque jinxes, it gives me more hope of seeing a Ravens/Falcons matchup, tbh :lol
Avante
01-15-2013, 12:31 AM
Who fucking cares.
Ya mean like your....Worst QB Draft Class.....that got all of...1...reply?
How about your....
Nick Foles to start Sunday....1...reply
Worst defense in the NFL...1...reply
John Clayton....0...reply
Shut the fuck up faggot. Worry about you and those stupid ass threads of yours.
DeadlyDynasty
01-15-2013, 12:32 AM
I'll never forgive Roger Craig for that fumble. Bills would've beaten that niner team.
Avante
01-15-2013, 12:32 AM
I really do love how Avante keeps spamming about the Pats/Niners Super Bowl that's "definitely going to happen"... with his shitful takes and lefty-esque jinxes, it gives me more hope of seeing a Ravens/Falcons matchup, tbh :lol
Ok slick I got the Niners vs Pats, what do you have?
Avante
01-15-2013, 12:34 AM
I'll never forgive Roger Craig for that fumble. Bills would've beaten that niner team.
The Niners played in 5 SB's and won them all, the Bills played in 4 SB's and lost them all, what's that tell you?
DeadlyDynasty
01-15-2013, 12:49 AM
Tells me it wouldve been 4-1 at that point. BB's magnum opus was that SB imo...well, that an the Rams game too.
Avante
01-15-2013, 01:18 AM
Tells me it wouldve been 4-1 at that point. BB's magnum opus was that SB imo...well, that an the Rams game too.
It's pretty obvious the Niners knew how to get ready for a game of that size while the Bills didn't. But I was always amazed at how a team with their best QB, RB, WR all there together along with a great D never won a SB.
tlongII
01-15-2013, 11:11 AM
The Falcons will beat the Niners. And you didn't even know about the A.A.F.C. until I told you about it a few weeks ago. :lol
Pelicans78
01-15-2013, 01:23 PM
To be honest, the Niners should win if they don't beat themselves, but they have to be careful since the Falcons beat a better Seahawks team. Niners need to avoid the same mistakes Seattle did otherwise they will fall short.
Fabbs
01-15-2013, 01:35 PM
And for last season and this they get the Coach of the Year in Jim Harbaugh.
TIMMYtoZO
01-15-2013, 03:05 PM
Matt Ryan will return to his playoff form on Sunday. Thr 49ers D will be getting to him all day long. The only way the 49ers lose this game is by literally giving it to the Falcons.
lefty
01-15-2013, 03:16 PM
The 49ers are winning the SB this year
There is NO way they lose to the shit teams left in the playoffs
Too deep, too good, so well coached
Creepn
01-15-2013, 03:17 PM
Matt Ryan is content with the one playoff win. He won't play with as much ambition the way he did against Seattle.
tlongII
01-15-2013, 04:09 PM
Kaepernik will choke. I saw what happened to him in Seattle.
Fabbs
01-15-2013, 07:54 PM
Kaepernik will choke. I saw what happened to him in Seattle.
psssssh.
Ya no chance Kaep bounces back from Seattle.
He only set the all time qb playoff rushing record last week.
Plus Justin Smith was out vs Seattle. Anchor of the D.
Samuel Eto'o
01-15-2013, 08:57 PM
Ohhh dat boy fabbs goin allll the way in on tlong #fabbsulous
Bill_Brasky
01-15-2013, 09:03 PM
Kaepernik will choke. I saw what happened to him in Seattle.
:lol Harbaugh himself said they didn't wanna give too much away to Seattle and had a very vanilla gameplan for them in the regular season in case they met in the playoffs.
tlongII
01-15-2013, 11:08 PM
Gonna have to bookmark this thread tbh.
Avante
01-15-2013, 11:32 PM
The Falcons will beat the Niners. And you didn't even know about the A.A.F.C. until I told you about it a few weeks ago. :lol
The Niners will beat the Falcons and I have always known about the AAFC, I own...The Official NFL Encyclopedia.....I never mentioned I'm an historian? What all do you want to know about that league?
Avante
01-15-2013, 11:34 PM
Matt Ryan is content with the one playoff win. He won't play with as much ambition the way he did against Seattle.
You read my mind.
tlongII
01-16-2013, 12:34 AM
The Niners will beat the Falcons and I have always known about the AAFC, I own...The Official NFL Encyclopedia.....I never mentioned I'm an historian? What all do you want to know about that league?
Oh really? Then why did you post that Otto Graham won 7 NFL Championships?
Avante
01-16-2013, 12:44 AM
Oh really? Then why did you post that Otto Graham won 7 NFL Championships?
Right here in my hand on page 418, I have everything Otto Graham ever did. Starting in the AAFC obviously.
Not sure what I was thinking there, as we know Graham did play in 10 Championship games in 10 years with the Browns.
Well aware of everything having to do with the old AAFC. It's all here in this book.
Then there was the Amazing Marion Mottley also a Brown. Check out these AAFC averages...
8.2
6.1
6.1
5.0
...no starting back comes close to that over a 4 season span. His career average (8 seasons)....a gaudy...5.7
The thing with Graham is that no QB ever made it to the title game 10 years in a row, but him.
DeadlyDynasty
01-16-2013, 06:25 AM
It's pretty obvious the Niners knew how to get ready for a game of that size while the Bills didn't. But I was always amazed at how a team with their best QB, RB, WR all there together along with a great D never won a SB.
The NFC was just better from 1984-1996. They had 5 powerhouse football teams for all or some of those years: Walsh's 49ers, Parcells' Giants, Ditka's Bears, Gibbs' Redskins, and Jimmy's Cowboys--they were all stacked with talent and (with the exception of da Bears) were coached by some of the greatest football minds in history. The Bills were the best team in 1990 (and were heavy favs), but the Giants devised an excellent gameplan and beat them. You know who the architect of that was? None other than BB, who duplicated that feat in 2001 when they were a 2-td underdog to the Rams. Still, that was Buffalo's only real shot at a SB. That 1991 Redskins team is one of the best in NFL history, and the Cowboys of the early 90's had a greater collection of talent on all sides than perhaps any team in history.
DeadlyDynasty
01-16-2013, 06:28 AM
Matt Ryan is content with the one playoff win. He won't play with as much ambition the way he did against Seattle.
He finally has the weight of the world off his shoulders and he's one win away from the SB. Yeah, sounds like a real ambition-killer
Avante
01-16-2013, 02:29 PM
The NFC was just better from 1984-1996. They had 5 powerhouse football teams for all or some of those years: Walsh's 49ers, Parcells' Giants, Ditka's Bears, Gibbs' Redskins, and Jimmy's Cowboys--they were all stacked with talent and (with the exception of da Bears) were coached by some of the greatest football minds in history. The Bills were the best team in 1990 (and were heavy favs), but the Giants devised an excellent gameplan and beat them. You know who the architect of that was? None other than BB, who duplicated that feat in 2001 when they were a 2-td underdog to the Rams. Still, that was Buffalo's only real shot at a SB. That 1991 Redskins team is one of the best in NFL history, and the Cowboys of the early 90's had a greater collection of talent on all sides than perhaps any team in history.
Those Lombardi Packers of the early 60's and those Steelers of the 70's had the best talent all there at the same time not the Cowboys of any era. Just look at all these Hall of Famers off those Packer/Steeler teams...
Packers
Bart Starr
Jim Taylor
Paul Hornung
Forrest Gregg
Jerry Kramer
Willie Davis
Ray Nitschke
Herb Adderly
Willie Wood
Steelers
Terry Bradshaw
Franco Harris
Mike Webster
Lynn Swann
John Stallworth
Joe Greene
Jack Ham
Jack Lambert
Mel Blount
What other team had nine HOFers all there together? And as we see almost evenly divided between offense and defense.
scanry
01-17-2013, 02:52 AM
I really do love how Avante keeps spamming about the Pats/Niners Super Bowl that's "definitely going to happen"... with his shitful takes and lefty-esque jinxes, it gives me more hope of seeing a Ravens/Falcons matchup, tbh :lol
Can't talk about the 49ers, but Patriots could very well lose to the Ravens this Sunday. Hate to say it but Brady has always looked sub-par playing against the Ravens and the Giants.
Avante
01-21-2013, 03:50 AM
Fellow Niner fan/card collector calls me after the Niner win...
Oscar...I got a Kaepernick rookie double, what ya got to trade?
Me...how about a Maurice Jones Drew, Doug Flutie rookie, second year Walter Payton and a third year Joe Montana?
Oscar...that's it?
Yep, that's where he's at right now and if..ah...when he wins the SB ..wow! At the beginning of the year ya could have got his rookie card for the price of a coke.
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Imagine beating...
GB twice
Seattle
NE
Atlanta
.......all in the same season.
So who wants to tell me how it's all about the pass...? Play that D and have a solid running game, win the turnover battle, that wins balls games.
The Niners the third rank rushing team, the Ravens the thirteenth, both ranked higher than their passing offense. Both beat superior passing offenses.
Opening line....Niners - 4.5
Just because I can, the Niner running backs.
Joe "The Jet" Perry...Compton JC
Hugh "The King" McElhenny...Washington
John Henry Johnson...ArizonA State
C.R.Roberts...USC
J.D.Smith...NCA&T
Vic Washington...Wyoming
Ken Williard...NCSt
Lenvil Elliott...NE Missouri
Ricky Patton...Jackson St
Gary Lewis...Arizona St
Earl Cooper...Rice
Paul Hofer...Mississippi
Bill Ring...SJS
"Famous" Amos Lawrence...North Carolina
Delvin Williams...Kansas
Wilber Jackson...Alabama
Wendell Tyler...UCLA
Roger Craig...Nebraska
Ricky Watters...ND
Charlie Garner...Tennessee
Terry Kirby....Virginia
James Owens...UCLA
Kevan Barlow...Pitt
Tom Rathman...Nebraska
William Floyd...FSU
Garrison Hearst...Georgia
Frank Gore...Miami
Kendall Hunter....Oklahoma St
LaMichael James...Oregon
Receivers
R.C.Owens...Idaho St
Billy Wilson...SJS
Bernie Casey...Bowling Green
Gene Washington...Stanford
Dave Parks...Texas Tech
Freddie Solomon...Tampa, was a QB.
Dwight Clark....Clemson
Brandon Lloyd...Illinois
JJ Stokes...UCLA
Renaldo Nehemiah...Maryland
Jerry Rice...Mississippi Valley St
John Taylor...Delaware St
Terrell Owens...Chattanooga
Michael Crabtree...Texas Tech
Randy Moss...Marshall
Mario Manningham...Michigan
Avante
01-21-2013, 07:44 AM
Kaepernik will choke. I saw what happened to him in Seattle.
Wrong~~~~~~
Avante
01-21-2013, 07:45 AM
Can't talk about the 49ers, but Patriots could very well lose to the Ravens this Sunday. Hate to say it but Brady has always looked sub-par playing against the Ravens and the Giants.
Good call~~~~~~
Avante
01-21-2013, 08:03 AM
I can't remember which TV guy said that Kaepernick was the fastest QB in the league. Seriously doubt he's beating RGIII at any distance.
Creepn
01-21-2013, 09:14 PM
He finally has the weight of the world off his shoulders and he's one win away from the SB. Yeah, sounds like a real ambition-killer
So where was that ambition again?
I really thought you learned your lesson by now about challenging my takes.
Avante
01-22-2013, 06:41 AM
Being a life long Niner fan has been a roller coaster ride. Down, then up then down now up. But we will tie the Steelers for most SB wins...6. We have had as many great players as any team and the best QB to receiver duo ever and you can go with Montana or Young to Rice.
Today I go trade some cards for a Kapernick rookie to go with my Montana, Young rookies. I do wish I had Youngs USFL rookie.
If ever a team was tailor made for that Niner defense it's the Ravens.
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