The Curious Brainwashing Case of ...

[silverblk mystix]

Hmm, opinions, facts, and fiction, these are concepts you seem to have a problem wrapping your mind around.
Did you get any REM sleep?
Really, you need some laughter in your life in the worst way.
Maybe if you took a sabbatical from ST you could get a little of both.
Just saying, ......... and a bit concerned about your mental state of being.
A fuzzy mind is, as a fuzzy mind does. :lol

However since it isn't too too late I'll give you the benefit of the doubt one more time. Let's break it down, shall we?

Moralism, (conventional moral maxim or attitude)
Mediate, (occupying a middle position)
Disingenuous, (not genuinely sincere)
Charlatan, (a person who makes fraudulent claims)
Credence, (acceptance as true)
Intended, (aimed at)
Inane, (silly)
Truth, (actual state of a matter)
Audience, (listeners collectively)

And all of these big and scary words used in the same post?
Well done, fuzzy. I am quite surprised, actually.

But you do realize, don't you, that it only serves to strengthen your argument, when you know the meaning of those words. That is why I broke them all down for you so you could better understand what you wrote.

No thanks needed.

But why didn't you also use NEUTRALITY, while you were at it? :lol
Neutrality, (refusal to take part in a war)
But then that might have been too much loss of brain synapses to overcome.

There, there, all better now?


LOL -


I think the pseudo-intellectual was edumacated here!



:lmao

[xmas1997]

LOL -


I think the pseudo-intellectual was edumacated here!



:lmao

Well, it's a beginning.
I had to do it a few more times in the "What is wrong with the under 30 Youth?" thread in "The Club".
It's a bit of an inconvenience for me, but in the long run it should reap positive results.
However, just because this may aid him to appear somewhat intelligent, it in no way implies he will be able to claim to be an intellectual. That is probably way beyond his abilities to achieve, and far beyond the scope of my willingness to attempt.
But I'll keep it up as long as he needs it. I do it for his sake. I am certainly not getting paid. :lol

[clambake]

obsession

[leemajors]

obsession

yep.

[Blake]

Well, it's a beginning.
I had to do it a few more times in the "What is wrong with the under 30 Youth" thread in "The Club".
It's a bit of an inconvenience for me, but in the long run it should reap positive results.
However, just because this may aid him to appear somewhat intelligent, it in no way implies he will be able to claim to be an intellectual. That is probably way beyond his abilities to achieve, and far beyond the scope of my willingness to attempt.
But I'll keep it up as long as he needs it. I do it for his sake. I am certainly not getting paid. :lol

How arrogantly thoughtful of you

[SA210]

How arrogantly thoughtful of you


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[FuzzyLumpkins]

obsession

It's strange. I told him that I had no interest in the inane back and forth and I wasn't going to do it anymore. He then tries to say he is teaching me something when all he is doing is dissembling from what I am saying.

Am I off-base in thinking that he is Avante do you think?

[SA210]

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[ChumpDumper]

It's strange. I told him that I had no interest in the inane back and forth and I wasn't going to do it anymore. He then tries to say he is teaching me something when all he is doing is dissembling from what I am saying.

Am I off-base in thinking that he is Avante do you think?No. Avante is here merely to talk about Avante.

I think xmas is well-meaning but a little oddly so.

[silverblk mystix]

No. Avante is here merely to talk about Avante.

I think xmas is well-meaning but a little oddly so.


Translation - "xmas hasn't completely backed up the hypocritical e gang - and has shown a strange fondness for neutrality"

[FuzzyLumpkins]

No. Avante is here merely to talk about Avante.

I think xmas is well-meaning but a little oddly so.

I thought so until this exchange


If and when you admit you snitched - and then speak to me in a civil manner - I will be more than a gentleman towards you.

This garbage of snitching on someone and then denying it - even after the proof was posted - is no way to be a credible man.

You get what you pay for.


There's no proof.


Why do you need proof?
Aren't some things self evident?
Don't worry, I won't stoop to insults.
I've got better things to do than that. However you might take a word to the wise about that.
Lighten up, buddy, get some laughter in your life.
Not everyone is out to get you, or make fun of you.

Does that seem like good intentions to you? It just seems like baiting to me. He claims that it is self evident and that truth can be found in the snitching statement. Has he ever said anything that you have thought mollified you or the sbm/SA210 posse?

[ChumpDumper]

Translation - "xmas hasn't completely backed up the hypocritical e gang - and has shown a strange fondness for neutrality"Why are you and SA210 using your troll names on him?

[SA210]

Translation - "xmas hasn't completely backed up the hypocritical e gang - and has shown a strange fondness for neutrality"


:lol still worried about going full attack mode on xmas. I guess his meltdown and biggest backdown in Spurstalk history has him too busy sulking right now

[ChumpDumper]

:lol still worried about going full attack mode on xmas. I guess his meltdown and biggest backdown in Spurstalk history has him too busy sulking right nowlol wants desperately to meet me

lol troll screen names

[ChumpDumper]

Besides, why would I attack xmas?

List the reasons I personally would want to do that.

[silverblk mystix]

I thought so until this exchange







Does that seem like good intentions to you? It just seems like baiting to me. He claims that it is self evident and that truth can be found in the snitching statement. Has he ever said anything that you have thought mollified you or the sbm/SA210 posse?


Fuzzy is paranoid on top of being just a nut;

The snitch comment was directed at the proven snitch- clitternation. The proof Blake asked for - was given in the "so what's the deal?" thread.

Xmas's comment had nothing to do with either of those - but fuzzy still got butthurt.

Go figure.

[SA210]

Fuzzy is paranoid on top of being just a nut;

The snitch comment was directed at the proven snitch- clitternation. The proof Blake asked for - was given in the "so what's the deal?" thread.

Xmas's comment had nothing to do with either of those - but fuzzy still got butthurt.

Go figure.


:lol Fuzzy sure is butthurt alright, the butthurt is definitely at epic levels. But he should be very thankful his meltdown and butthurt have not reached chumps historic meltdown butthurt pussy backdown paranoid scared levels and self ownage that will always live beyond the end of time, tbqh.



:rollin

[ChumpDumper]

lol important to SA210

lol doesn't realize what actually happened

[xmas1997]

How arrogantly thoughtful of you

I've always been respectful to you Blake, I even like your quirky sense of humor.


No. Avante is here merely to talk about Avante.

I think xmas is well-meaning but a little oddly so.

Thanks for the vote of confidence, Chump. But if you have read any of the posts it is easy to see he hates me being neutral.
I happen to like characters on both sides of the feud. And would prefer not to jeopardize that by taking sides.

Hell, I even offered to mediate for free to Blake, but he mistakenly thought I was being sarcastic, and this is the thanks I get. See his quote above.

And I really wanted you to go to the GTG, but I understand your reluctance.

What I have a hard time figuring out is fuzzy' obsession with me.
Lately he has gotten paranoid, and accusing valid posters, one new one in particular from New Zealand, Jake, last night of being a troll account.
The poor guy got hit out of the blue by fuzzy' tirades.
He now refuses to talk to fuzzy and I don't blame him.
It was so bad I didn't even want to laugh because I was worried it would send fuzzy over the edge.

All this because I happen to like people on both sides of this feud, would like to meet them in real life, and have some laughs and beers together, and that means staying neutral.
It is so frustrating for him apparently because he is now resorting to posting my quotes out of context and making up his own assumptions for my words and intentions.
It is bizarre behavior to say the least.

Hell, I barely know my way around trolls, much less what having a troll account is all about. My record speaks for itself and can easily be verified by The owners of this site, I have only this one account and no others.


Besides, why would I attack xmas?

List the reasons I personally would want to do that.

You would have no reason too, we have always gotten along IMHO.

This unfortunately are more of the backlash of fuzzy' obsession with me turned to paranoia. His ghosts are coming back to haunt him, and it is sad to watch.

Honestly, I want to laugh about it because laughter is so healthy and healing, but in his case it could totally unhinge him.
I would not want that responsibility on my shoulders. I just enjoy you guys humor.

Hopefully my attempts to teach him the correct and proper behavior for having a positive discussion will be a benefit to him, but so far it has been rather fruitless. He hasn't even seen the humor in it. I would have.

Anyway, thanks again for "oddly" complement. That was funny too. :lol

[RandomGuy]

No. Avante is here merely to talk about Avante.

I think xmas is well-meaning but a little oddly so.

Eyup. +1

Avante is a whole other breed of inte-rant itinerant.

[xmas1997]

Eyup. +1

Avante is a whole other breed of inte-rant itinerant.

I haven't been on here long enough to sift trough the BS, but so far I don't get why so many are down on Avante.
He seems pretty harmless to me.
At least he isn't hostile like fuzzy, who insults people he doesn't even know just because they have a different opinion or because they choose to be neutral on feud issues.
How do insults convince anyone of anything other than the foolishness of the insulter?
It didn't get me anywhere back during those times I did it.
It just made me look like an even bigger fool IMHO.
It even lost its humorous appeal after a while. :lol

[Blake]

It's strange. I told him that I had no interest in the inane back and forth and I wasn't going to do it anymore. He then tries to say he is teaching me something when all he is doing is dissembling from what I am saying.

Am I off-base in thinking that he is Avante do you think?

I don't think he's Avante.

[RandomGuy]

I haven't been on here long enough to sift trough the BS, but so far I don't get why so many are down on Avante.
He seems pretty harmless to me.
At least he isn't hostile like fuzzy, who insults people he doesn't even know just because they have a different opinion or because they choose to be neutral on feud issues.
How do insults convince anyone of anything other than the foolishness of the insulter?
It didn't get me anywhere back during those times I did it.
It just made me look like an even bigger fool IMHO.
It even lost its humorous appeal after a while. :lol

I didn't think Avante was that bad either, but then I didn't talk to him much.

[Blake]

Fuzzy is paranoid on top of being just a nut;

The snitch comment was directed at the proven snitch- clitternation. The proof Blake asked for - was given in the "so what's the deal?" thread.

Xmas's comment had nothing to do with either of those - but fuzzy still got butthurt.

Go figure.

I can confirm that by your definition of snitch, I saw how you snitched on yourself.

[xmas1997]

It's strange. I told him that I had no interest in the inane back and forth and I wasn't going to do it anymore. He then tries to say he is teaching me something when all he is doing is dissembling from what I am saying.

Am I off-base in thinking that he is Avante do you think?

Well, that is part of your problem, but only part.
You are like the drowning man scrambling for a grip on the boat, can't quite hold on, in this case, you don't quite get it.
So the lessons will continue and maybe if you work at it you'll succeed.

Since your insults don't work, and your criticisms are hollow because the subject matter is way over your head, you are now resorting to lies to back up your assertions?

When all you ever do is bait, or insult, you are adding lies to your repertoire too?
Geeez, what won't you stoop to next?

Whoever taught you how to converse in a productive discussion failed you terribly.
Lies, insults, and baiting are all part and parcel of the pseudo intellect.

You must have a really tough life.
But I will help you, have no fear.
And I will bring some humor into your tutelage as well. :lol

[silverblk mystix]

Well, that is part of your problem, but only part.
You are like the drowning man scrambling for a grip on the boat, can't quite hold on, in this case, you don't quite get it.
So the lessons will continue and maybe if you work at it you'll succeed.

Since your insults don't work, and your criticisms are hollow because the subject matter is way over your head, you are now resorting to lies to back up your assertions?

When all you ever do is bait, or insult, you are adding lies to your repertoire too?
Geeez, what won't you stoop to next?

Whoever taught you how to converse in a productive discussion failed you terribly.
Lies, insults, and baiting are all part and parcel of the pseudo intellect.

You must have a really tough life.
But I will help you, have no fear.
And I will bring some humor into your tutelage as well. :lol


Charitable xmas, very charitable.

He is a lost case - but I admire your perseverance. :lol

[TeyshaBlue]

My experience with Fuzzy has been akin to a mirror. When I get rowdy with him, he generally gets rowdy with me. When I start a dialogue with him, I receive a dialogue in return.
YMMV.

[TeyshaBlue]

Actually, the same can be said of chump as well.

[xmas1997]

My experience with Fuzzy has been akin to a mirror. When I get rowdy with him, he generally gets rowdy with me. When I start a dialogue with him, I receive a dialogue in return.
YMMV.

I guess then he just didn't like my neutrality, because I tried discussing things with him in good faith.
All he wanted to do was preface everything with an insult.
I don't discuss things like that. I give respect where respect is due.
Plus he kept baiting.
And many of his arguments lacked substance, but that is minor since it was opinions anyway.
It's all there in the posts for anyone to read.

[TeyshaBlue]

Hence "YMMV".:lol

[ChumpDumper]

Actually, the same can be said of chump as well.GFY, Teysha. :domokun

[xmas1997]

Actually, the same can be said of chump as well.

I've never had a problem with Chump. He doesn't insult unless someone insults him.
And he doesn't ridicule unless you ridicule him or unless you really beg to be ridiculed.
Just saying.

[TeyshaBlue]

GFY, Teysha. :domokun

Fucked and yet somehow unfuckable.

Still haven't figured that one out yet.

[pgardn]

I've never had a problem with Chump. He doesn't insult unless someone insults him.
And he doesn't ridicule unless you ridicule him or unless you really beg to be ridiculed.
Just saying.

To be a proper member of this board you must add a tbh to any statement. Even if you don't mean it. Just saying, is so ancient.

[TeyshaBlue]

To be a proper member of this board you must add a tbh to any statement. Even if you don't mean it. Just saying, is so ancient.

Unless you've been noted by Agloco, you're just another mouthy rookie.


tbh.





:lol

[pgardn]

Unless you've been noted by Agloco, you're just another mouthy rookie.


tbh.





:lol

Dammit...

[xmas1997]

Tbh to be honest

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I guess then he just didn't like my neutrality, because I tried discussing things with him in good faith.
All he wanted to do was preface everything with an insult.
I don't discuss things like that. I give respect where respect is due.
Plus he kept baiting.
And many of his arguments lacked substance, but that is minor since it was opinions anyway.
It's all there in the posts for anyone to read.

:lol neutrality

You can keep saying that but you showed your true colors a bit ago.

You first got mad at me when I pointed out your exchange that indicated that your mediation was full of shit. Blake asked sbm for proof about the snitching allegation he put against CN. You said that it was self evident, that truth can be found there, and then the kicker about how not everyone was out to insult him. I mean never mind that sbm has been doing pretty much only that for over a year calling him a cuck and all manner of diatribe. And that pseudo-metaphysical bullshit is just asinine. You never address any of that. You have just dissembled.

You got mad at me when I told you that your comparison of string theory and parallel universes and how they were mathematically linked was pseudo intellectual nonsense. It is. I was trying to head you off at the pass before you started in on incarnation. That is typically the Eastern religious nonsense people try to link to modern physics and when I asked you for said mathematical justification, you had nothing but more dissembling.

After those exchanges you have now tried to call me a nut. You have tried to say that I am a pseudo-intellectual when all you do is list words of one or two syllables and call them 'big words.' BTW, that would be pedantic not pseudo-intellectual. You claim all that I do is insult when you know that is not the case. Even when I do insult I back it up with an argument that shows how the individual has shown that trait.

That makes you a big fat hypocrite. You are doing exactly what you rail about over and over again. At the end of the day though you do not have to justify your string theory bullshit. You do not have to address the exchange that shows your 'neutrality' does not bear out in practice. Nor do you have to show any proficiency in philosophy. All I see is bullshit pseudo-Eastern philosophy but even then its not even there.

I am sure that you will once again dissemble. Insult me and then turn around and say that is all I do. Try to call me a pseudo-intellectual when you do not even know what that means much less intellectuals in the first place. You are a fraud and it's deplorable.

[SA210]

Everything I just said are lies

[xmas1997]

Just more of his baiting, lies, and insults. Par for the course.
Isn't even worth reading anymore because he keeps saying the same thing.
Not surprising.
I doubt anyone takes him seriously anymore, he has very little credibility left.
A shell of what he was.
At least I don't have to worry he'll go off the deep end anymore.
He still hates I am neutral. :lol

[SA210]

Just more of his baiting, lies, and insults. Par for the course.
Isn't even worth reading anymore because he keeps saying the same thing.
Not surprising.
I doubt anyone takes him seriously anymore, he has very little credibility left.
A shell of what he was.
At least I don't have to worry he'll go off the deep end anymore.
He still hates I am neutral. :lol


That neutral thing has really unraveled some trolls, that's for sure. :lol

[xmas1997]

That neutral thing has really unraveled some trolls, that's for sure. :lol

Especially one in particular. I wonder what he ever did with that bag of dicks he had? As if anyone would ever take those off his hands. :lol. My money says he's posting more pseudo intelligent nonsense as we write.
I still feel bad for that N.Z. guy, Jake.

[ChumpDumper]

Especially one in particular. I wonder what he ever did with that bag of dicks he had? As if anyone would ever take those off his hands. :lol
I still feel bad for that N.Z. guy, Jake.
You still haven't figured that one out yet?

Come on.

[xmas1997]

You mean Jake the Muss. He is real. He knew things that none of us could have made up especially about New Zealand and LOR and the Hobbit. He truly was not someone's troll. I'd bet anything on that.

[ChumpDumper]

You mean Jake the Muss. He is real. He knew things that none of us could have made up especially about New Zealand and LOR and the Hobbit. He truly was not someone's troll. I'd bet anything on that.

If I thought less of you I would make ridiculous bet.

[xmas1997]

If I thought less of you I would make ridiculous bet.

Well I appreciate that. I think we will see more posts from him since Mills is his favorite player, but after fuzzy went bananas on him I doubt he will be down here. :lol

[ChumpDumper]

Well I appreciate that. I think we will see more posts from him since Mills is his favorite player, but after fuzzy went bananas on him I doubt he will be down here. :lol

I think once he found out his namesake raped his own daughter the person who uses that account might refrain.

[SA210]

:lmao another chump fail

[ChumpDumper]

:lmao another chump fail

Do you think jake the muss is a legit poster from new zealand?

Yes or no.

[xmas1997]

Do you think jake the muss is a legit poster from new zealand?

Yes or no.

I do, he knew too many things about N.Z. That none of us should have known. Plus he did not get involved in the slug fest. He even knew the correct time over there. He was a pretty decent bloke.
If he was not real, that was one hell of a con job.
He stayed completely neutral.
You have to read his posts to see what I mean.

[ChumpDumper]

I do, he knew too many things about N.Z. That none of us should have known. Plus he did not get involved in the slug fest. He even knew the correct time over there. He was a pretty decent bloke.
If he was not real, that was one hell of a con job.
He stayed completely neutral.
You have to read his posts to see what I mean.
Read all his posts. Not just the ones to you.

[xmas1997]

Read all his posts. Not just the ones to you.

Ok, I'll go back and think them out.

[SA210]

Ok, I'll go back and think them out.

:lol What's funny is a troll (chump) is trying to give you pointers on someone else he claims is a troll, while pretending to not be a troll himself. lol

[xmas1997]

Hey Mates, none of my business but why is Fuzzy so hostile?
Seems that this was an interesting read and he took it pretty personal.
Any reason for his hostility?


Oi mate, if I could say something ,I thought that the xmas lad was actually respectful towards you and I was wondering if maybe it was something personal between you.
I was enjoying the thread but it seems that you are too heavily emotionally invested if I may say so.
Respectfully, Jake.


Mr. Fuzzy, I am new so I am just asking you respectfully but if you prefer not to answer I understand. You posted some quotes but I don't think that pertained to my query. Cheers, mate.


Mate, I asked Fuzzy a direct question and his response was to post some quotes of different people. Any idea what this means, you seem to be sincere in your responses so I might as well try to hear your story. Cheers, mate.


Mate, obviously you are upset but don't you think that accusing me of something devious is uncalled for?
I am baffled mate and frankly, I don't appreciate the accusation. I hope you reconsider your tone with me mate. Cheers.


Understood mate, I was enjoying the thread as I fall on the science side but am open to hearing about any other viewpoints.
Cheers mate.


Mate, you seem to be unapproachable tonight, maybe I should ring you another day eh chap?
You seem to be very unnerved mate and I won't push you over the edge. Cheers.


Much obliged, mate. I am a New Zealander mate which is the most beautiful place on the planet.
Thanks for your hospitality, mate. I would describe myself as just a common but lovable chap.
My love of the Spurs stems from a chap named of Patty Mills - although he is not from NZ - he is still
a common chap who represents our part of the planet.
Cheers, mate.


No mate, I am from Christchurch but have visited some of those areas where they filmed like Wellington, Mt. Victoria and South Lakes and there are some heavenly places but I visited as a young lad. I need to go there again soon.
Cheers.


Sorry mate, I am on the far side of the planet!
Cheers.

[xmas1997]

No mate, it is almost 7pm here.


I'd prefer not to converse mate as you seemed to be in a fragile state the last time. Or you can read the page I already answered that query.
Cheers.


Read all his posts. Not just the ones to you.

These were all his posts before I finally called it a night.
Do you still think he was a troll account?
If he was, he sure pulled the wool over my eyes.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Well I appreciate that. I think we will see more posts from him since Mills is his favorite player, but after fuzzy went bananas on him I doubt he will be down here. :lol

:lol bananas

You disingenuous turd.

I am not the only one that thinks hes a troll account and that is all I said to him.

[xmas1997]

Talk to the hands.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

These were all his posts before I finally called it a night.
Do you still think he was a troll account?
If he was, he sure pulled the wool over my eyes.

Look at the posts before that.

[SA210]

:madrun

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Talk to the hands.

So you can quote other people and talk about me?

Passive aggressive much?

[xmas1997]

Read all his posts. Not just the ones to you.

I posted all his quotes. Do you still think he is a troll account?
They are too authentic IMHO.
What makes you think they are bogus?
And if they are, who's troll account are they?
Man, he fooled me totally if they are fake.
That was good.

[SA210]

I posted all his quotes. Do you still think he is a troll account?
They are too authentic IMHO.
What makes you think they are bogus?
And if they are, who's troll account are they?
Man, he fooled me totally if they are fake.
That was good.

These are trolls telling you that other people are trolls xmas lol

[xmas1997]

The guy is so paranoid now he thinks I care what he thinks and am talking about him?
Contrary to what you believe, this was about Jake the Muss, not you and you tiny little world fuzzy. :lol
It may come as a shock to you to realize that this world does not revolve around you.
Geez, your paranoia has no bounds!

[xmas1997]

These are trolls telling you that other people are trolls xmas lol

Does it look like a troll to you?

[xmas1997]

Look at the posts before that.

Sorry to break it to you, but there were no other posts from Jake the Muss before that.
They are all documented for all to see in black and white.
You are being really paranoid again.
So talk to the hands.

[SA210]

Does it look like a troll to you?

I thought he was pretty cool with you. No reason for me to think Jake is a troll from your conversation with him.

You could say he was a troll (not really) in the sense that he very easily made trolls chump and fuzzy meltdown and get angry over him. :lol


:lol silly trolls

[xmas1997]

I thought he was pretty cool with you. No reason for me to think Jake is a troll from your conversation with him.

You could say he was a troll (not really) in the sense that he very easily made trolls chump and fuzzy meltdown and get angry over him. :lol


:lol silly trolls

I didn't see Chump get upset with him, but we all know who was going ballistic last night. In fact I'll go back again, but I don't remember Chump posting at all.
There were a couple of others who posted, but either I am really gullible, or this guy was as real as you or I. Seemed to be a nice chap, to borrow his term.

[xmas1997]

I like how you counted the posts I've directed to you. For you to stoop to that level says it all. I'm your daddy, faggot.


I know you are, but what am I?


If he dies, he dies.

Ok, besides pgardn who has lots of posts, these were the other ones who posted and they could easily be troll accounts, even I can see that by the tone of their posts.
Chump did not post at all through that whole exchange.

I still don't see the connection, the guy was not insulting to any of us, not even to our pseudo intellectual.
I could easily be wrong about Jake, but I don't think I am. He was nice to all.

[SA210]

I didn't see Chump get upset with him, but we all know who was going ballistic last night. In fact I'll go back again, but I don't remember Chump posting at all.
There were a couple of others who posted, but either I am really gullible, or this guy was as real as you or I. Seemed to be a nice chap, to borrow his term.

Well, as someone that troll chump has followed around for years, obsessively (worse than Fuzzy is doing to you)..it's easy to tell when he's upset, even if he hasn't made a direct insult. You just have to get to know him better and understand that chump has been trying to be on his "pretend" best behavior around you specifically, ever since I outed him for being a troll, and you said you were being neutral. He needed an extra person to attempt to pile on me and sbm at the time so he played into acting innocent around you, and now he can't get out of it bc you proved you actually were being neutral. Now it's too late for him and he has to keep up the act lol. He fell into a trap where he knows you will call him out, you just don't know his games yet. He is attempting to point out to you that Jake is a troll bc he hates that Jake posted something that went against his troll friend Fuzzy and (in chumps mind), favorable to sbm, etc.

This is similar to Blake and Fuzzy being angry with you, bc you have not in been in total agreement with them and have said some truths about their behavior and (in their small minds), favorable to myself or sbm. Chump however is attempting to be more tactful than those two trolls in how he does this around you, for obvious reasons...bc you easily unraveled his best friend Blake, and Fuzzy by being neutral. Chump is being very careful so that you won't do that to him. lol He takes this very seriously lol

Don't worry though, the insults will be coming your way when he gets upset enough. :lol Chump will lie about all of this and deflect.

[silverblk mystix]

lol at the fuzzy and chumpie trolls getting trolled by a nice guy who wasn't even a troll and now are trying to slowly paint a gentleman like xmas in a bad light.

Sad.

Funny too!


:lol

[xmas1997]

Well, as someone that troll chump has followed around for years, obsessively (worse than Fuzzy is doing to you)..it's easy to tell when he's upset, even if he hasn't made a direct insult. You just have to get to know him better and understand that chump has been trying to be on his "pretend" best behavior around you specifically, ever since I outed him for being a troll, and you said you were being neutral. He needed an extra person to attempt to pile on me and sbm at the time so he played into acting innocent around you, and now he can't get out of it bc you proved you actually were being neutral. Now it's too late for him and he has to keep up the act lol. He fell into a trap where he knows you will call him out, you just don't know his games yet. He is attempting to point out to you that Jake is a troll bc he hates that Jake posted something that went against his troll friend Fuzzy and (in chumps mind), favorable to sbm, etc.

This is similar to Blake and Fuzzy being angry with you, bc you have not in been in total agreement with them and have said some truths about their behavior and (in their small minds), favorable to myself or sbm. Chump however is attempting to be more tactful than those two trolls in how he does this around you, for obvious reasons...bc you easily unraveled his best friend Blake, and Fuzzy by being neutral. Chump is being very careful so that you won't do that to him. lol He takes this very seriously lol

Don't worry though, the insults will be coming your way when he gets upset enough. :lol Chump will lie about all of this and deflect.

If it's true, I'm sorry to hear it because I think Chump isn't really a bad dude. I blame it on misunderstandings, but then I haven't been here as long as all you guys, at least not posting.
I am awakening pretty fast though.
I've read many posts from Chump over the years, and yes, sometimes he was pretty unreasonable, but for the most part he seemed pretty cool and exhibited a sharp wit. Plus he has been very helpful in understanding a lot of things.
That's another reason I won't take sides.
I like being neutral.
Why is it ok for you guys, but not ok for Blake, fuzzy, and a couple of others, who seem to have it in for me?
Chalk it up to human nature and personality differences?

[SA210]

Their paranoia has created ghosts all around them. Trolls being trolled by innocent posters :lmao

[SA210]

If it's true, I'm sorry to hear it because I think Chump isn't really a bad dude. I blame it on misunderstandings, but then I haven't been here as long as all you guys, at least not posting.
I am awakening pretty fast though.
I've read many posts from Chump over the years, and yes, sometimes he was pretty unreasonable, but for the most part he seemed pretty cool and exhibited a sharp wit. Plus he has been very helpful in understanding a lot of things.
That's another reason I won't take sides.
I like being neutral.
Why is it ok for you guys, but not ok for Blake, fuzzy, and a couple of others, who seem to have it in for me?
Chalk it up to human nature and personality differences?

It's easy for sbm and myself who are telling the truth to accept neutrality, as you said yourself..we have no problem with you. Liars/unhappy trolls however can't accept you bc your neutrality exposes them, you are a threat to their lies and trolling. Your neutrality exposed Fuzzy and Blake very quickly. This is chumps fear which is why he is careful around you now :lol You can take credit for making him attempt to change his game up as drastically as he has :lol Chumps in a tough spot, bc either your power that you have over him by making him always change his game around you and his always being careful will have to stay with him forever, or he can just end up getting tired of it and just start the attack. Either way..the troll loses :lol There is your answer.

[xmas1997]

Their paranoia has created ghosts all around them. Trolls being trolled by innocent posters :lmao

And why would Chump even care one way or the other what I think?
Blake didn't, fuzzy didn't. There are a couple of others that have made it plain on here that they don't like me either.
I'm not here to win any popularity contests.
I'm here to enjoy some discussions that appeal to me and get information, but you guys know this. Chump knows this.
These are like cliques in high school in a way. If people are competing for someone's favor, Blake and fuzzy sure went about it the wrong way! :lol

[silverblk mystix]

If it's true, I'm sorry to hear it because I think Chump isn't really a bad dude. I blame it on misunderstandings, but then I haven't been here as long as all you guys, at least not posting.
I am awakening pretty fast though.
I've read many posts from Chump over the years, and yes, sometimes he was pretty unreasonable, but for the most part he seemed pretty cool and exhibited a sharp wit. Plus he has been very helpful in understanding a lot of things.
That's another reason I won't take sides.
I like being neutral.
Why is it ok for you guys, but not ok for Blake, fuzzy, and a couple of others, who seem to have it in for me?
Chalk it up to human nature and personality differences?

You raise a good question xmas -

Why are we ok with your neutrality - but some others like Fuzzy and Blake are not ok with it?

Well this reveals some truths....

If a person is spoken to in a respectful manner - he will respond in kind. I took the time to see what you were saying and decided to meet you on common ground - why would I disrespect you - once we ironed out our misunderstandings?

Blake can be spoken to respectfully and he would return that with an insult. Why? He revealed it was fun. He likes to find "posts" that he can disrespect. He cannot understand why an insult will not be appreciated.
Is this fuckin crazy or what? Any idiot on the planet - will understand that calling someone an idiot is a form of disrespect.
You know what Blake's response to this?

Here it is: "just answer the fuckin' question and stop being a thin-skinned pussy!"

Pretty tough talk isn't it?

Yet - what happened when we wanted to meet face to face - just for a gtg - no threats - no bs -?

He shit his tough guy pants and now he and chumpie are known as the poopy pants duo.

Fuzzy - same deal - he will insult you and then EXPECT you to prove or disprove his idiotic claims. As if any self-respecting person would want to speak with someone who just insulted them.

SA210 and myself will go to war with you if pressed - but we will also speak to you with respect if spoken to with respect.

Finally, there is no way that your neutrality is good enough for these guys - they want you to be on their team and that means AGAINST anyone that stands in the way of them being allowed to insult and gang up on a poster without interference.

[SA210]

And why would Chump even care one way or the other what I think?
Blake didn't, fuzzy didn't. There are a couple of others that have made it plain on here that they don't like me either.
I'm not here to win any popularity contests.
I'm here to enjoy some discussions that appeal to me and get information, but you guys know this. Chump knows this.
These are like cliques in high school in a way. If people are competing for someone's favor, Blake and fuzzy sure went about it the wrong way! :lol

That's the thing you're missing xmas, respectfully. You think chump is just a normal poster. He is a troll. You have to know that EVERYTHING he says has an agenda behind it, plain and simple he is a troll. His only reason for existence here is to troll, snipe at people all the time, day and night while people are just trying to have discussions, post topics, etc, and then gets mad and tries having those banned who have made him look silly. His friends join in, making them trolls in the process. So, I recently decided to make him eat his own medicine the way he has done to posters for over a decade. I outed him/them as trolls. He needed you on his side (Bc he cares about sides and all, etc lol) that day I was owning him again, so when you said you were neutral he acted innocent and has attempted that pathetic act ever since when around you. He cares bc he takes this board way too seriously and is all into "sides" and e-wins and revenge for anyone making him look foolish for trolling and all that. It's like his purpose in life. Meanwhile, I log off and enjoy the world. :lol

[ChumpDumper]

These were all his posts before I finally called it a night.
Do you still think he was a troll account?
If he was, he sure pulled the wool over my eyes.

Before those

[SA210]

You raise a good question xmas -

Why are we ok with your neutrality - but some others like Fuzzy and Blake are not ok with it?

Well this reveals some truths....

If a person is spoken to in a respectful manner - he will respond in kind. I took the time to see what you were saying and decided to meet you on common ground - why would I disrespect you - once we ironed out our misunderstandings?

Blake can be spoken to respectfully and he would return that with an insult. Why? He revealed it was fun. He likes to find "posts" that he can disrespect. He cannot understand why an insult will not be appreciated.
Is this fuckin crazy or what? Any idiot on the planet - will understand that calling someone an idiot is a form of disrespect.
You know what Blake's response to this?

Here it is: "just answer the fuckin' question and stop being a thin-skinned pussy!"

Pretty tough talk isn't it?

Yet - what happened when we wanted to meet face to face - just for a gtg - no threats - no bs -?

He shit his tough guy pants and now he and chumpie are known as the poopy pants duo.

Fuzzy - same deal - he will insult you and then EXPECT you to prove or disprove his idiotic claims. As if any self-respecting person would want to speak with someone who just insulted them.

SA210 and myself will go to war with you if pressed - but we will also speak to you with respect if spoken to with respect.

Finally, there is no way that your neutrality is good enough for these guys - they want you to be on their team and that means AGAINST anyone that stands in the way of them being allowed to insult and gang up on a poster without interference.


Fucking truth bombs x10000000 :lol

[ChumpDumper]

That's the thing you're missing xmas, respectfully. You think chump is just a normal poster. He is a troll. You have to know that EVERYTHING he says has an agenda behind it, plain and simple he is a troll. His only reason for existence here is to troll, snipe at people all the time, day and night while people are just trying to have discussions, post topics, etc, and then gets mad and tries having those banned who have made him look silly. His friends join in, making them trolls in the process. So, I recently decided to make him eat his own medicine the way he has done to posters for over a decade. I outed him/them as trolls. He needed you on his side (Bc he cares about sides and all, etc lol) that day I was owning him again, so when you said you were neutral he acted innocent and has attempted that pathetic act ever since when around you. He cares bc he takes this board way too seriously and is all into "sides" and e-wins and revenge for anyone making him look foolish for trolling and all that. It's like his purpose in life. Meanwhile, I log off and enjoy the world. :lollol so important to you.

[silverblk mystix]

lol so important to you.

SA210 is not a peace officer as far as I know - why the fuck are you scared of him?

SA210 - as far as I know has not shown any reason or any behavior that would "scare" any reasonable person, so why the big fear?

You plainly stated - I will meet with SA210 - he is harmless - why then did you shit your pants when he agreed to meet you for the gtg?

Are you afraid of everyone who isn't a full time troll her and on your e gang?

What are you afraid of?

Are you a self-respecting man? Do you not trust yourself to take care of yourself or call the police if you are in trouble or being threatened in some way?

[SA210]

SA210 is not a peace officer as far as I know - why the fuck are you scared of him?

SA210 - as far as I know has not shown any reason or any behavior that would "scare" any reasonable person, so why the big fear?

You plainly stated - I will meet with SA210 - he is harmless - why then did you shit your pants when he agreed to meet you for the gtg?

Are you afraid of everyone who isn't a full time troll her and on your e gang?

What are you afraid of?

Are you a self-respecting man? Do you not trust yourself to take care of yourself or call the police if you are in trouble or being threatened in some way?

chump tapdance/lies/deflection coming 5, 4, 3, 2, 1..

[ChumpDumper]

False premise.

Why would I want to meet either one of you now?

[SA210]

I called it :lol

[ChumpDumper]

lol important self quoting

[silverblk mystix]

False premise.

Why would I want to meet either one of you now?

No reason needed if you are a confident assured male.

What is it about yourself that won't allow you to have faith?

Are you that weak minded that you can't take care of yourself.

Are you a handicapped pasty faced plump teenage girl that knows that daddy would not want you to meet two adult males?

What is it about you that keeps you terrified?

[ChumpDumper]

So you guys can't think of a reason for me to meet either of you as well.

Cool.

[SA210]

:lmao chump is a demoralized pussy

[SA210]

So you guys can't think of a reason for me to meet either of you as well.

Cool.



BOO!

[silverblk mystix]

So you guys can't think of a reason for me to meet either of you as well.

Cool.

Scared.

Real men don't need to be reassured. Either you got a pair or you don't. The whole forum is aware that you are a poopie pants pussy and your boyfriend Blake is also a poopie pants shit talker who is terrified when called to meet.

[silverblk mystix]

:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin

[SA210]

:lmao:rollinI couldn't help it..sorry for terrifying you more than you already are chumppussy

[ChumpDumper]

Scared.

Real men don't need to be reassured. Either you got a pair or you don't. The whole forum is aware that you are a poopie pants pussy and your boyfriend Blake is also a poopie pants shit talker who is terrified when called to meet.

If real men don't need to be reassured, why do you two post hundreds of reassuring emoticons?

lol

[xmas1997]

You raise a good question xmas -

Why are we ok with your neutrality - but some others like Fuzzy and Blake are not ok with it?

Well this reveals some truths....

If a person is spoken to in a respectful manner - he will respond in kind. I took the time to see what you were saying and decided to meet you on common ground - why would I disrespect you - once we ironed out our misunderstandings?

Blake can be spoken to respectfully and he would return that with an insult. Why? He revealed it was fun. He likes to find "posts" that he can disrespect. He cannot understand why an insult will not be appreciated.
Is this fuckin crazy or what? Any idiot on the planet - will understand that calling someone an idiot is a form of disrespect.
You know what Blake's response to this?

Here it is: "just answer the fuckin' question and stop being a thin-skinned pussy!"

Pretty tough talk isn't it?

Yet - what happened when we wanted to meet face to face - just for a gtg - no threats - no bs -?

He shit his tough guy pants and now he and chumpie are known as the poopy pants duo.

Fuzzy - same deal - he will insult you and then EXPECT you to prove or disprove his idiotic claims. As if any self-respecting person would want to speak with someone who just insulted them.

SA210 and myself will go to war with you if pressed - but we will also speak to you with respect if spoken to with respect.

Finally, there is no way that your neutrality is good enough for these guys - they want you to be on their team and that means AGAINST anyone that stands in the way of them being allowed to insult and gang up on a poster without interference.

As you already know I have no intentions of going to war against you guys, anymore than I will with Chump. In fact not even with Blake, fuzzy, or those other two idiots who don't like me.
If pressed, I'll just go back upstairs because to me this is just a virtual reality with even less significance than the one I live in every day.

Apparently for some, this may be a huge part of their world, and that has been an eye opener, but for me, I have too many better and more fun things to do, as well as a path to pursue.

I have opened up quite a bit on this forum, more than maybe I should have, but that is ok too. Had I not, I might have missed some important things. And missed meeting some cool people, like you guys, like Chump, like Bruno, Mouse, etc.

There are always good and bad elements in every walk of life, be they Bikers, cops, lawyers, construction workers. Etc.
As a musician, you are exposed to the lowest regions and the highest regions and everything in between. It goes with the territory, so you develop street smarts really fast, and grow calluses on your feelings.

Balance. Reality with reality with reality with reality to infinity. And yet more balancing. What a life. :lol

[silverblk mystix]

If real men don't need to be reassured, why do you two post hundreds of reassuring emoticons?

lol

We won't have any emoticons when we meet - just guys meeting for a beer face to face. No emoticons necessary -

Except - you weren't reassured when I promised I wouldn't hurt you.

You weren't reassured when I said I would wear a choke collar and xmas can hold the leash.

Sounds pretty bad that your fear runs this deep.

[SA210]

:cry:cry


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOoonxL7EK0

[ChumpDumper]

We won't have any emoticons when we meet - just guys meeting for a beer face to face. No emoticons necessary -

Except - you weren't reassured when I promised I wouldn't hurt you.

You weren't reassured when I said I would wear a choke collar and xmas can hold the leash.

Sounds pretty bad that your fear runs this deep.
So you're very serious about all of thos now?

[SA210]

So you're very serious about all of thos now?

lol

[ChumpDumper]

This.

Well are you?

[SA210]

We won't have any emoticons when we meet - just guys meeting for a beer face to face. No emoticons necessary -

Except - you weren't reassured when I promised I wouldn't hurt you.

You weren't reassured when I said I would wear a choke collar and xmas can hold the leash.

Sounds pretty bad that your fear runs this deep.


Oh shit :rollin:rollin:rollin:rollinworthy emoticon explosion re-activated


damn chump smh rofl

[ChumpDumper]

Are you both very serious about this meeting and everything you have said about it?

[silverblk mystix]

Oh shit :rollin:rollin:rollin:rollinworthy emoticon explosion re-activated


damn chump smh rofl


Here's the thing....

Have I ever threatened chumpie in any way?

I had a run in with johnsmith who started it - blah blah - old story.

But problem with chumpie?

WTF

How the hell are you scared of a guy who has never even hinted at doing anything to you?

Irrational fear and bizarre behavior tbh.

[ChumpDumper]

Here's the thing. Are you both very serious about meeting me and all you have said about it?

[SA210]

Here's the thing....

Have I ever threatened chumpie in any way?

I had a run in with johnsmith who started it - blah blah - old story.

But problem with chumpie?

WTF

How the hell are you scared of a guy who has never even hinted at doing anything to you?

Irrational fear and bizarre behavior tbh.

Especially after claiming back when.. that you were basically nothing to fear :lol Oh yea, pussy chump tried to pretend I never posted about that, but he read it :tu

[SA210]

https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7874572288/h0EEB4BEB/

[ChumpDumper]

So are you both serious about meeting me?

[silverblk mystix]

Here's the thing. Are you both very serious about meeting me and all you have said about it?

...and then you troll some more...

then we answer another question...


and you string that question and troll some more...


but then you really ask a serious question...


and you troll some more...


rinse...repeat...

[ChumpDumper]

But you never answer any questions.

Makes me think you aren't serious about it.

[xmas1997]

Well, apparently I was opening a huge can of worms when I suggested this GTG.
Mouse liked the idea as Blake said.
The GTG will happen.
I don't care who comes anymore. It was never meant to cause such a stir. It was just a simple GTG.
Mouse says Austin would be better. I am good with that.
People don't want to go? Fine.
People do? Better yet.
This is no big deal, at least to me it isn't.
I for one am not going to hide or run from it.
It is what it is and it isn't worth arguing over.
If you are a Spurs fan, then let's unite as Spurs fans.
Good enough?

[SA210]

...and then you troll some more...

then we answer another question...


and you string that question and troll some more...


but then you really ask a serious question...


and you troll some more...


rinse...repeat...


It's all a tap dance that never ends up in a gtg, just a terrified deflection troll job that attempts to hide him shitting his pants tbh :lol

[silverblk mystix]

But you never answer any questions.

Makes me think you aren't serious about it.


I think everyone here understands what your life's mission is -

to troll - and your questions only will lead to you thinking you are a success story because you kept trolling and asking questions and never once actually answering or agreeing to the gtg.

Rinse ...repeat....

[SA210]

I think everyone here understands what your life's mission is -

to troll - and your questions only will lead to you thinking you are a success story because you kept trolling and asking questions and never once actually answering or agreeing to the gtg.

Rinse ...repeat....


The next bs question/deflection/tap dance coming lol

[ChumpDumper]

Just so I know you guys weren't serious.

Let me know if you were.

[SA210]

Called it lol

[silverblk mystix]

omg - he has done this exact same thing 80,098 times!!!!


What a success story!!!!!

We are all witnesses!

[SA210]

omg - he has done this exact same thing 80,098 times!!!!


What a success story!!!!!

We are all witnesses!


You could pick any day/night he's posted, any year, you will see this same pathetic saying nothing chickenshit crap :lmao

[ChumpDumper]

So you two are afraid to post whether you are serious or not.

OK.

lol

[xmas1997]

I will contact Mouse and start ironing out all the particulars. He's done it before and recently here.
I'll start PMs. There will be no pressures and no favorites. Whoever wants to do it will. Those who don't will miss out. The only clique is a Spurs clique. All other cliques can get fucked if they can't take a joke. :lol
That simple enough so far?

[silverblk mystix]

I will contact Mouse and start ironing out all the particulars. He's done it before and recently here.
I'll start PMs. There will be no pressures and no favorites. Whoever wants to do it will. Those who don't will miss out. The only clique is a Spurs clique. All other cliques can get fucked if they can't take a joke. :lol
That simple enough so far?


Do your thing xmas.

[silverblk mystix]

You could pick any day/night he's posted, any year, you will see this same pathetic saying nothing chickenshit crap :lmao


With ONE huge difference;


This time it wasn't trolling because he has no life -

this time it was trolling to take away the focus from his poopie pants!



But he can never erase that!



:rollin:rollin

[ChumpDumper]

Sorry. You fellas were afraid to say whether you were serious.

[silverblk mystix]

So, 79000 posts of trolling and saying absolutely nothing...


and the last thousand tap dancing in his shit pants and hoping to avoid a gtg!

[ChumpDumper]

So, 79000 posts of trolling and saying absolutely nothing...


and the last thousand tap dancing in his shit pants and hoping to avoid a gtg!
Are you serious about meeting me there?

[SA210]

So, 79000 posts of trolling and saying absolutely nothing...


and the last thousand tap dancing in his shit pants and hoping to avoid a gtg!

80,102 False Premise troll claims false premise, don't you get it! :lol

[ChumpDumper]

So, serious?

Not serious?

[xmas1997]

Ok, this will happen. You don't even have to be a Spurs fan. So I suppose it is a ST GTG.
You want to go?
Say so.
You don't want to go?
We will respect your feelings.
We are adults so it will be adults.

[pgardn]

Here is the lineup of speakers to see if you want to free your mind:

http://freeyourmindconference.com/speakers

Would love to be at the dinner table with all of these folks.
So for all you folks that have attempted to re wash your brain, and then put it on spin cycle, these are your mentors. I especially like the guy involved in extraterrestrial politics.

[AntiChrist]

Here is the lineup of speakers to see if you want to free your mind:

http://freeyourmindconference.com/speakers

Would love to be at the dinner table with all of these folks.
So for all you folks that have attempted to re wash your brain, and then put it on spin cycle, these are your mentors. I especially like the guy involved in extraterrestrial politics.



Lol, Jim Fetzer, 9/11 twooftard

http://freeyourmindconference.com/images/fym2/jim-fetzer-preview.jpg

[pgardn]

Gotta read Alfred Webre.

Must buy that book by Al.
Anything goes when searching for the truth.

[RandomGuy]

Here is the lineup of speakers to see if you want to free your mind:

http://freeyourmindconference.com/speakers

Would love to be at the dinner table with all of these folks.
So for all you folks that have attempted to re wash your brain, and then put it on spin cycle, these are your mentors. I especially like the guy involved in extraterrestrial politics.

ROFL Ras Ben... dude has a picture of him with a bird sitting on his head...

[RandomGuy]

Gotta read Alfred Webre.

Must buy that book by Al.
Anything goes when searching for the truth.


Alfred’s investigative journalism has been featured on TruTV, PressTV, and mainstream TV networks, and has exposed an international war crimes racketeering organization using exotic technologies such as the HAARP aerosol/chemtrails weapons system for tectonic and weather warfare, mind control and other ecocidal and depopulation programs. Please visit www.exopolitics.com.

Alfred is chairman of the Mars Anomaly Research Society (MARS) www.projectmars.net, which is spearheading the international effort to research, disclose, and educate the public about life on Mars. He has proposed a truth- amnesty process to facilitate the release of the advanced, extraterrestrial-derived new energy technologies that can be used to create a sustainable, peaceful space age society.

:vomit:

He is one of *those* people.

Read through juuuust enough of the attendees to know for certain that it is one of the largest collections of pseudoscientific fucktards I have ever seen assembled in one place.

[xmas1997]

If we write on brass, time will efface it;
If we write on marble, it will crumble into dust;
But if we write on the tablets of the human mind
We write that which will brighten to all eternity.
(Daniel Webster)

[xmas1997]

You shall become aware, through daily practice, that what you imagine to be your self is concocted from beliefs put into you by others, and is not your self at all.
(Iskander of Balk)



Take an axe to the prison wall.
Escape.
Walk out like someone suddenly born into color.
Do it now.
You're covered with thick cloud.
Slide out the side.
Die, and be quiet.
Quietness is the surest sign that you've died.
Your old life was a frantic running from silence.
The speechless full moon comes out now.
(Rumi)

[xmas1997]

Words should not be withheld from the worthy, but the unworthy will be annoyed by the words of real men. The hearts of the unworthy and those who are alienated from reality are like wicks that have been drenched in water instead of oil. No matter how much fire you put to such a wick it will not burn.
(Shihab al-Din al-Suhrawardi)

[xmas1997]

.

[silverblk mystix]

Words should not be withheld from the worthy, but the unworthy will be annoyed by the words of real men. The hearts of the unworthy and those who are alienated from reality are like wicks that have been drenched in water instead of oil. No matter how much fire you put to such a wick it will not burn.
(Shihab al-Din al-Suhrawardi)


Well this one is very relevant in here.

Or

In other words -sheeple hate - just hate truth.

[Blake]

Freddie Fuckleroy - Part 1

Dedicated to Woo Bung-Hole and his very dear sidekicks - as per request.


Ok Woo...here is Part 1 - Found a little time to go with my (insert labels ) ____ ____ awesome Vietnamese Coffee this morning (and I'm not at the office today).

Didn't want to put or direct this story to anyone in particular or try to directly insult anyone here (any further :lol) so I gave this guy a name....it could be ME, YOU OR ANYONE ELSE. Just a common story that COULD happen to everyone...my opinion is that it happened to everyone. Some people discovered they were brainwashed and worked on getting free - some went to their grave without ever waking up and died with this brainwashing intact.

Part 1 for now and after a few "fuck you's and you're an idiot" comments I will see if and when I have time for Part 2. Enjoy!

***Let us confirm the premise....Would you agree that a person is brainwashed if;
He is in touch with reality and then - someone re-programs his mind so much that after this re-programming - this same person can not see reality anymore?
Woo Bung Hole agreed so let us see how a brainwashing happens:

The Curious Brainwashing Case of Freddie Fuckleroy






Little Freddie Fuckleroy came into the world with a clean slate. His mind and brain worked perfectly though and he was in direct contact with reality. What does this mean -in direct contact with reality?
Freddie, like most of us, didn’t have any names or labels for the things that his eyes saw. There were fluffy objects moving around, his mom and dad contorted their lips and faces and made cooing and oohing and aaahing sounds...but there was no name or label for that. Sometimes the nanny would rock the little Fuckleroy to sleep. Adults had a name or a label for the nanny- they called her “black” and also labeled her a “maid” or a “servant.”
Little Freddie only responded to her warmth and her love and her touch.


In a few years The Fuckleroys had slapped a few labels on the little Fuckleroy. What does this mean- to slap a label on something or someone? Well before the labels Freddie was free to play, laugh, put frogs in his mouth and squeal if he saw a little fuzzy creature -(which us brainwashed know as squirrels) scampering towards a tree, but after the labels Freddie knew what these things were and now when he saw a squirrel - he didn’t even look twice. Freddie was not impressed with squirrels anymore - he had already labeled it- stored it away in his brain - and now he didn’t even respond - he just went on autopilot and shrugged and said, “meh- I’ve seen squirrels.” Freddie began doing this with almost everything that his senses picked up - he got so good at it that he could just put his brain on “cruise” and pretty much respond to thousands of things in the same automatic way without any effort at all. You could say that the little Fuckleroy put his brain on automatic pilot and began seeing everything the same --through the labels. Not directly in contact with the reality but instead - he was semi-aware of things through the filter of his conditioning, his memory, his habits, his labels. If Freddie came into the world with 100% vision - free, clear, untainted,unlabeled, uncategorized- he now saw titles, labels, and if these labels had a negative connotation -it was worse - Freddie would respond to this reality with a negative reaction.
Remember the warm and loving nanny who gave Freddie such a wonderful feeling of warmth? Freddie had learned through his parents, his friends, his culture - that she carried a few labels. These labels were not positive. Freddie, when he was alone, had labeled her a “poor” “fat” “n$#%r.”
Freddie and his schoolmates spent many a time using these labels and if one of the “mates” did not go along in this classifying and labeling of others - there would be hell to pay. Freddie might have even earned another label all on his own- the label of “bully.”


The parents, hmm, I almost forgot to explain all the labels that came from the parents. Remember before when Freddie came into the world and had a 100% contact with reality? Freddie had probably lost some of that vision. How? Well for every label that Freddie saw out of and for every minute that Freddie left his mind on autopilot - he lost some vision because these labels were filtering (positively or negatively) his perceptions of reality.
His parents placed a few early on; Freddie was now a Christian. (but the parents could have been Jews, Muslims or any other denomination- it was still a label that babies did not come into the world with) Freddie was sent to a parish very early on and was taught to see the world through this label of “Christian” and identify himself with this label. In other words Freddie’s 100% vision which had already dwindled to about 94% was now losing a little more focus...92%...He was “rich”...90%
Tall - 89%
Handsome - 88%
Skinny - 87%
Republican - 62% (ok maybe 80% ;)
White - 75%
American - 72%
The next thing that Freddies parents did was even worse. Can you imagine what would happen if you took a 5 year old child - and gave him a taste of Heroin? Then continued to give him Heroin until his little body was addicted and it cried out for more?
Horrible.


This is what happened to Freddie, to you, to me - to all of us - but except it wasn’t Heroin that they gave us.
What drugs were we infected with at an early age? How did we become addicts at an early age?




To be continued...

Was there ever a part 2?