View Full Version : Spurs should start campaigning for Duncan..
HarlemHeat37
03-16-2013, 09:57 PM
I realize the Spurs generally avoid campaigning and drawing attention to the team, but it would be a fucking injustice if Duncan isn't the C on the All-NBA 1st team and doesn't receive serious consideration for DPOY, tbh..
He has been the best C in the NBA this year and it isn't even close, tbh..
Juggity
03-16-2013, 10:04 PM
Agreed on the best center comment.
I think there are a few legit arguments for Duncan as DPOY. On the one hand, there might be a willingness to give him a kind of lifetime achievement DPOY considering he was robbed a few times back in the day. On the other, his block numbers really aren't that far behind the league leaders, and any other statistical deficit is more than made up by the high defensive IQ. He makes the right plays on that end far more often than Larry Sanders, Ibaka, Noah.
He should win it, but he'll need a popular groundswell to actually gain the necessary momentum.
HarlemHeat37
03-16-2013, 10:10 PM
I agree that there are other viable candidates for DPOY, but Duncan should get all-NBA 1st C either way..
crc21209
03-16-2013, 10:11 PM
TD HAS to win the DPOY this year. Without him the Spurs would probably give up 120 a game. He's the anchor and the main reason we have an improved defense this year..
TDfan2007
03-16-2013, 10:12 PM
I realize the Spurs generally avoid campaigning and drawing attention to the team, but it would be a fucking injustice if Duncan isn't the C on the All-NBA 1st team and doesn't receive serious consideration for DPOY, tbh..
He has been the best C in the NBA this year and it isn't even close, tbh..
Preach.
crc21209
03-16-2013, 10:12 PM
Sanders and all those other guys can kiss my ass. Where are the Bucks in the standings again?
TDfan2007
03-16-2013, 10:13 PM
TD HAS to win the DPOY this year. Without him the Spurs would probably give up 120 a game. He's the anchor and the main reason we have an improved defense this year..
if you go by the last week and half or so, then that number is probably closer to 140, tbh...
TD HAS to win the DPOY this year. Without him the Spurs would probably give up 120 a game. He's the anchor and the main reason we have an improved defense this year..
Top 10 defensive rebounder, top 4 in blocks, top guy in defensive rating, best in blocks to fouls ratio.
chapnis
03-16-2013, 10:14 PM
Who else could even challenge for best centre? Dwight? Noah? Gasol?
elemento
03-16-2013, 10:17 PM
I concur
Timmy should get both, 1st all-NBA team and DPOY
he is a fucking beast
Who else could even challenge for best centre? Dwight? Noah? Gasol?
Dwight's been great post All-Star break.
Mayhem321
03-16-2013, 10:34 PM
Dwight's been great post All-Star break.
Cosidering that Kobe will be the sg in the NBA first team, if Dwight gets the nomination for best center there would be two players of a team that is struggling to go to the playoffs in the All-NBA 1st team. This would be so pathetic that i dont believe it will happen :lol
Cosidering that Kobe will be the sg in the NBA first team, if Dwight gets the nomination for best center there would be two players of a team that is struggling to go to the playoffs in the All-NBA 1st team. This would be so pathetic that i dont believe it will happen :lol
They vote for two guards, not a PG and an SG. Parker could sneak in.
spurraider21
03-16-2013, 10:57 PM
They vote for two guards, not a PG and an SG. Parker could sneak in.
:lol @ at the notion of TP getting in over Kobe. Kobe is a lock for 1st team honors. The other guard will boil down to CP3, Wade, Harden, Parker. Durant and LeBron have the forward spots to themselves for the foreseeable future
No one in SA is getting anything other than maybe Splitter getting most improved but even then probably not. Is a high school homecoming queen thing. They vote the most popular girl, not the best looking one.
AussieFanKurt
03-16-2013, 11:37 PM
I agree, but no doubt Dwight will be there on 1st team.. scrub sanders would be a lame selection for dpoy but probable
mrjap2x
03-17-2013, 12:19 AM
Spiking dion waiters' shot should help his case.
chapnis
03-17-2013, 12:22 AM
Spiking dion waiters' shot should help his case.
Everyone knows spectacular blocks are better than ones that go to your team mates.
Man In Black
03-17-2013, 01:26 AM
1st team All-NBA Defensive team or 1st team All-NBA?
All those years he split the vote for DPOY when him or Bowen deserved it.
Tim Duncan's fundamental brilliance applies on the D side as well.
Kidd K
03-17-2013, 01:40 AM
Top 10 defensive rebounder, top 4 in blocks, top guy in defensive rating, best in blocks to fouls ratio.
Blocks to fouls ratio. . .good stat :P
No one in SA is getting anything other than maybe Splitter getting most improved but even then probably not. Is a high school homecoming queen thing. They vote the most popular girl, not the best looking one.
Parker will still probably get an All NBA Team placement even though he'll have missed a dozen games. Shaq was still getting those even when he was missing 16-20 games every year.
Duncan will get All NBA something, if not be on both the regular and defensive teams.
Did you just compare Parker to Shaq?
Obstructed_View
03-17-2013, 04:30 AM
Bet Kobe finishes higher on DPOY voting than Duncan simply due to that block on Lebron in the all star game.
chapnis
03-17-2013, 04:36 AM
Bet Kobe finishes higher on DPOY voting than Duncan simply due to that block on Lebron in the all star game.
It's funny, because it's true.
mercos
03-17-2013, 12:19 PM
Duncan deserves both awards this year. He has clearly been the best center in the league all year as the other contenders for that title have struggled mightily. He's also been one of the top defenders in the league for his entire career, yet never won the DPOY. He should get it on career achievement alone this year as there are no other standout contenders.
Obstructed_View
03-17-2013, 02:09 PM
Larry Sanders has more rebounds and blocks, so that automatically makes him DPOY. That's also why Milwaukee is such a juggernaut this season.
Thread
03-17-2013, 05:39 PM
I'll admit:::he hasn't carried his shit bag as earnestly as he has this season in a long time.
EricB
03-17-2013, 06:05 PM
I'd like them to, but on the other hand I like that the team nor Duncan gives a flying crap.
If Duncan doesn't get DPOY this year, I am going to have to burn something down.
hooperflash
03-17-2013, 07:02 PM
If Duncan doesn't get DPOY this year, I am going to have to burn something down.
Just spare the statue of Magic Johnson please...
I mostly agree with y'all's sentiment; it'd be cool if the FO could somehow push for it.
Get the announcers talking about it on national TV - which seems the only chance they have against Stern's veto power.
TD 21
03-17-2013, 08:16 PM
I agree. As I've been saying since early in the season, it's going to take that for him to even have a legit shot to win DPOY, considering the lack of mention he get's (insane as it sounds, it wouldn't shock me if he didn't even make the All-Defensive team). 1st team, on the other hand, he'll have a legit shot at, but them trumpeting him wouldn't hurt.
The first step is acknowledging that he's a C, considering how hesitant a lot of media are to refer to him as a C (how else can the ridiculous notion that "Gasol is the best all around C in the league" be explained?), ever since the Spurs arguing years ago that he was still a PF in order to keep his All-Star starting streak alive. The fact that Splitter is now starting alongside him doesn't help matters.
The thing he has going for him is the lack of a surefire candidate. The media loves slobbering over Gasol and to a lesser extent, Noah and Chandler, but they're not typical All-NBA 1st team type names and neither is Lopez.
Since they're too dumb to think of it themselves, someone should tweet the beat writers and ask them to ask Pop about it. Pop being as respected as he is, you know if he says something akin to what he said about Parker essentially being the best PG in the league this season, the masses will take notice.
Larry Sanders has more rebounds and blocks, so that automatically makes him DPOY. That's also why Milwaukee is such a juggernaut this season.
A 33-32, 8th in the East juggernaut? Not sure if you forgot the blue text or not.
Sanders has had an amazing season, but considering the overall success of the team is usually factored into these things, coupled with the fact that Duncan is one of the best defensive players of this era and has never won a DPOY, I would like to think that would sway a few votes in his direction.
I'd probably be wrong, but it's nice to dream.
chapnis
03-17-2013, 08:59 PM
A 33-32, 8th in the East juggernaut? Not sure if you forgot the blue text or not.
Sanders has had an amazing season, but considering the overall success of the team is usually factored into these things, coupled with the fact that Duncan is one of the best defensive players of this era and has never won a DPOY, I would like to think that would sway a few votes in his direction.
I'd probably be wrong, but it's nice to dream.
I think he felt the blue text wasn't necessary because of how stupid the statement was tbh.
Don't see why Pop can't use some of that influence/respect he has to tout TD (for DPOY) during his interviews. Maybe someone could email Skip Bayless - he seems like the media person who likes the Spurs the most and would be most likely to put it out there.
Obstructed_View
03-18-2013, 02:16 AM
I think he felt the blue text wasn't necessary because of how stupid the statement was tbh.
Sometimes sarcasm is so sarcastic one feels blue text unworthy of it. I'm struggling to believe someone would fail to catch it. I'll give Spurs fans a pass on that since Milwaukee has had an unusual amount of success against them in recent years, but just this one time.
Obstructed_View
03-18-2013, 02:17 AM
Don't see why Pop can't use some of that influence/respect he has to tout TD (for DPOY) during his interviews. Maybe someone could email Skip Bayless - he seems like the media person who likes the Spurs the most and would be most likely to put it out there.
...and then the backlash could cost him votes. If you want a case made for an award, Skip is just below Sean Elliott for who you want doing it.
MSPaint
03-18-2013, 07:50 PM
Cosidering that Kobe will be the sg in the NBA first team, if Dwight gets the nomination for best center there would be two players of a team that is struggling to go to the playoffs in the All-NBA 1st team. This would be so pathetic that i dont believe it will happen :lol
It will more than likely happen. With the Lakers 'resurgence' of course Dwight and Kobe are both going to be on it. Yes, it is pathetic but it's the way the world turns. And as far as Timmy D getting DPOY as a consolation gift for his career? They'll give it to someone else, LBJ probably. Who cares. Duncan doesn't need it to validate anything.
I honestly hope he wins it. He's been undeniable deserving of it for so many years; and to be snubbed, year after year, is disgusting and frankly unacceptable.
In a perfect workd, he wins it, hands it back, then tells the league to suck it.
Libri
03-18-2013, 10:39 PM
Top 10 defensive rebounder, top 4 in blocks, top guy in defensive rating, best in blocks to fouls ratio.
And this is from a player who is close to retiring. :wow
Timmy absolutely deserves both the DPOY and All-NBA 1st Team. Unfortunately, DPOY will probably go to LeBron and All-NBA 1st Team Center will go to Dwight.
chapnis
03-19-2013, 12:36 AM
Surely he is due for a career award (DPOY) this year, there is no one demanding the award and TD leads the league in DRating as well as having the 2nd highest DRtg in his career of anyone.
milkyway21
03-20-2013, 05:42 AM
Who else could even challenge for best centre? Dwight? Noah? Gasol?
really like this article about who's the best center in the NBA today-
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/blog/eye-on-basketball/21905578/is-tim-duncan-or-marc-gasol-the-best-center-in-the-nba-this-season
Duncan's 80.6% FT this year, is his highest ever since he played in the NBA :tu
TDfan2007
03-20-2013, 12:50 PM
really like this article about who's the best center in the NBA today-
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/blog/eye-on-basketball/21905578/is-tim-duncan-or-marc-gasol-the-best-center-in-the-nba-this-season
Duncan's 80.6% FT this year, is his highest ever since he played in the NBA :tu
:lol saying that Gasol is a far better defender than Timmy. Duncan does everything better than Gasol other than FT shooting, passing (barely) and defending the pick and roll.
HarlemHeat37
03-29-2013, 10:29 PM
Lebron and Durant are the only players that have been unarguably better than Tim this season, tbh, when you consider defensive performance as well..
He has been one of the top 5 players in the league this year, it would be a travesty if it doesn't get recognized..
HarlemHeat37
03-29-2013, 10:42 PM
The game vs. Miami on Sunday will play a large factor in Duncan's accolades this year IMO..everybody will be watching this game..
KenziE
03-29-2013, 11:44 PM
No one in SA is getting anything other than maybe Splitter getting most improved but even then probably not. Is a high school homecoming queen thing. They vote the most popular girl, not the best looking one.
This
Bet Kobe finishes higher on DPOY voting than Duncan simply due to that block on Lebron in the all star game.
Not far from the truth and prolly gonna happen too
I'd like them to, but on the other hand I like that the team nor Duncan gives a flying crap.
Bottom line
It would be a tragedy if he didn't end up with at least an All-NBA 1st team bid. How can the voters drop the ball so hard... not to mention his team is in first place... he's missed a few games, but he's still top 3 for DPOY too. Do these guys even watch basketball?
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