Jackie Robinson the movie

[Avante]

The truth is he was not the first black to play in the major leagues, no not talking about the negro leagues either. Who can tell me who really was the first?

Like all movies based on real life how many of the facts will be either ignored or distorted? Jackie wasn't even the fastest member of his family, that was Mack his older brother who chased Jesse Owens to a medal at the 36 Berlin Olympics.

Jackie was a great long jumper, actually led the nation for JC athletes while at Pasadena City with a 25-10 leap. Then off to UCLA where he starred in football and the long jump, he had good speed not world class speed like his brother.

Too bad guys like Josh Gibson and Cool Papa Bell never played in the major leagues. Gibson was hitting 70 or more homeruns in a season and Cool Papa was said to be so fast he once hit a grounder between first and second and had to jump over the ball rounding first for second.

Have yet to see any movie about a sports hero where they actually got it right.

Remember.."Chariots of Fire"..? They totally ignored the beat down Harold Abrahams took from USA high schooler Francis Hussey on that lead off leg in the 4x1. Hussey destroyed the Olympic 100m champ, gave the USA a two meter lead, which is what they won by.

Speaking of athletic brothers,...

One was an Olympic gold medalist, the other is in the NFL Hall of Fame, who?

[CubanSucks]

tl;dr

Great video tho

[Avante]

tl;dr

Great video tho

It is better to just grunt here isn't it? That was long?

Short version

Jackie wasn't the first black in MLB.

[CubanSucks]

No one cares and that ******fied movie is going to flop hard anyways

[Avante]

No one cares and that ******fied movie is going to flop hard anyways

How do you know what ..no one....thinks? There are tons of baseball fans ya know.

I'm not a baseball fan but know about Robinson. And ya can't know about his story and know that stuff I mentioned above.

[Juan]

Just another white guilt film. White man is evil.

Move along.

[Avante]

Just another white guilt film. White man is evil.

Move along.

I don't think the white man is guilty at all. And there are millions of blacks who need to be thankful things were like they were.

I've asked my black buddies if they'd want to go back to Africa. It's...fuck you..hell no...AFRICA??????...you're kidding, right?...no way in hell.

[The Reckoning]

africa's a beautiful, promising continent. it would be a decent place to live if it wasnt a complete social clusterfuck.

[I. Hustle]

I don't think the white man is guilty at all. And there are millions of blacks who need to be thankful things were like they were.

I've asked my black buddies if they'd want to go back to Africa. It's...fuck you..hell no...AFRICA??????...you're kidding, right?...no way in hell.

LOL Black buddies. Is that what y'all talk about while they give your wife the mandingo warrior?

[Dark Gable]

The truth is he was not the first black to play in the major leagues, no not talking about the negro leagues either. Who can tell me who really was the first?

Like all movies based on real life how many of the facts will be either ignored or distorted? Jackie wasn't even the fastest member of his family, that was Mack his older brother who chased Jesse Owens to a medal at the 36 Berlin Olympics.

Jackie was a great long jumper, actually led the nation for JC athletes while at Pasadena City with a 25-10 leap. Then off to UCLA where he starred in football and the long jump, he had good speed not world class speed like his brother.

Too bad guys like Josh Gibson and Cool Papa Bell never played in the major leagues. Gibson was hitting 70 or more homeruns in a season and Cool Papa was said to be so fast he once hit a grounder between first and second and had to jump over the ball rounding first for second.

Have yet to see any movie about a sports hero where they actually got it right.

Remember.."Chariots of Fire"..? They totally ignored the beat down Harold Abrahams took from USA high schooler Francis Hussey on that lead off leg in the 4x1. Hussey destroyed the Olympic 100m champ, gave the USA a two meter lead, which is what they won by.

Speaking of athletic brothers,...

One was an Olympic gold medalist, the other is in the NFL Hall of Fame, who?

Most everyone I know knows that Jackie wasn't the true first but he got the fame and did very, very well with it. This a movie remember and some things will be changed, omitted for effect. If you want a documentary watch PBS.

[Avante]

africa's a beautiful, promising continent. it would be a decent place to live if it wasnt a complete social clusterfuck.

What would all those 4.3 guys do in Nigeria? Denzel? Wesley? Samuel L?

[Avante]

LOL Black buddies. Is that what y'all talk about while they give your wife the mandingo warrior?

That was stupid.

[Avante]

Most everyone I know knows that Jackie wasn't the true first but he got the fame and did very, very well with it. This a movie remember and some things will be changed, omitted for effect. If you want a documentary watch PBS.

But nobody ever seems to know just who was the first, hmmmm?

[Reck]

This movie is partaining to baseball and what he brought to the game/change.

You're a master of derailing your own threads Avante.

I bet you haven't even seen the full trailer of the movie and yet here you are running your mouth. Watch it, then critique.

[Avante]

This movie is partaining to baseball and what he brought to the game/change.

You're a master of derailing your own threads Avante.

I bet you haven't even seen the full trailer of the movie and yet here you are running your mouth. Watch it, then critique.

I got into Robinson because of his track and football exploits long ago. Then to find out his older brother was Mack Robinson who was a real stud at Oregon State, well.

Now add this marvelous book I own...Black American Sports Heroes.... featuring the art of George Lee. Obviously Jackie Robinson is there. As is the former slave who fought for the heavyweight title. Tons of great stuff.

Being a fan of black history in sport, you will come across those old negro leagues, very very interesting. As was the black basketball leagues. You also discovery the first black athlete to do this or that. Would you believe back in the day the local papers would...

NEGRO SETS RECORD...then precede to explain who what and where.

Obiviously not too concerned with...derailing...haha!!!!!!! And, this is about speculating how the movie will go, which should be obvious.

Oh yeah, have never seen any trailer, simply doesn't interest me at all.

Dude, for a guy who never does anything ya might wanna cool telling others anything, ok?

[Dark Gable]

But nobody ever seems to know just who was the first, hmmmm?

In the end it doesn't matter as Jackie Robinson is the one celebrated and the message was clearly sent.

[Avante]

In the end it doesn't matter as Jackie Robinson is the one celebrated and the message was clearly sent.

You might like to deal in misinformation, I don't. There is just something about reality/facts that appeals to me. What gets me is why not go with what actually went down instead of a lie?

While not a lie it is a bit of interesting historical fact.

Yes Jesse Owens won 4 gold medals at the 36 Berlin Olympics. Everyone has heard of Jesse Owens. What gets lost is that he wasn't our best 100m man, that was Temples Eulace Peacock who had beaten Jesse 7 of 10 times at that distance, he also beat him in the long jump, being a 26 footer also. Due to an injury early in 36 at the Penn Relays, no Olympic trials for Peacock. It's realistic to say if he'd been in Berlin he wins the 100, takes second in the long jump and runs on that gold medal 4x1 team, he wasn't a 200 guy. Mack Robinson should have been in that 4x1 (great turn runner), no telling what the team of....

Jesse Owens
Ralph Metcalfe....who also beat Owens many times
Mack Robinson
Eulace Peacock

...would have ran. Yep, histories first great all black 4x1 team. Can't ignore Columbia's Ben Johnson who also had beaten Owens and was also hurt in 36.

[lefty]

Montreal jersey in the movie :cry