2013 SEC Thread Presented by People Who Chant ESS-EEE-SEE, ESS-EEE-SEE

[symple19]

And :lmao Kentucky losing to WKU

Petrino shoulda been Auburn's coach, tbh

[symple19]

Georgia gonna lose.

[Bill_Brasky]

tcu going monkeyball status, it's working.

[symple19]

The funniest thing about Climpsun is that, even if they win tonight, they'll still lose to somebody else down the road who they should beat.

Same goes for FSU

Hope the Hurricoons win the ACC, tbh

[Bill_Brasky]

damn what a throw

[symple19]

uh-oh LSU

[symple19]

I thought TCU had that drunk cracker starting at QB

[symple19]

Doesn't matter. Les doesn't lose OOC games

[Sisk]

all kidding aside, what did you think of him blowing off Sumlin coming off the field?

You've never seen a player "ignore" their coach like that? Not exactly uncommon. Not concerning at all IMO.

[symple19]

Gotta kick it if you're TCU

[symple19]

Gary Patterson looks like a participant in an amateur german gangbang, tbh

[symple19]

:lol

[symple19]

Time to watch the BSU/Wash game

[symple19]

Or not... LOL Broncos

Chris Peterson and his failed child would be a lot better off somewhere else

[Bill_Brasky]

Gary Patterson looks like a participant in an amateur german gangbang, tbh

I always thought he looked like George Costanza.

[leemajors]

You've never seen a player "ignore" their coach like that? Not exactly uncommon. Not concerning at all IMO.

Uhh of course I have.

[Sisk]

Uhh of course I have.

Did it tear the team apart?

[Blake]

Lol Georgia

[leemajors]

Did it tear the team apart?

I'm not in any locker rooms, I have no idea. I just don't like seeing players disrespect their coaches like that, no matter who they are. I don't care if Manziel is a dick to everyone, he should at least keep it in the locker room as far as his coach is concerned.

[Sisk]

I'm not in any locker rooms, I have no idea. I just don't like seeing players disrespect their coaches like that, no matter who they are. I don't care if Manziel is a dick to everyone, he should at least keep it in the locker room as far as his coach is concerned.

Remember when Vernon Davis got thrown out of the game by his own coach? Now he says that's the best thing that has ever happened to him. These situations are very different, but my point is that sometimes these things have much better outcomes than some talking heads will make them out to have. I'm not worried about Sumlin's control over this team and Manziel.

[Spurminator]

lol @ ESPN whiffing on their summer scandal story and now making a 15-yard penalty into some kind of bigger issue. Never has a dead horse been beaten worse than the last 30 minutes of the A&M/Rice game yesterday.

[Sisk]

Eventually the public will realize it's just conjecture by ESPN. Commentating and Holtz/May was just terrible. May is the worst in the business and it's not close.

[leemajors]

Eventually the public will realize it's just conjecture by ESPN. Commentating and Holtz/May was just terrible. May is the worst in the business and it's not close.

Esp with him resisting arrest in college :lol

[Sisk]

Esp with him resisting arrest in college :lol

Before he was the starting QB and anyone knew who he was. What's the worst thing he has done since then?

[leemajors]

Before he was the starting QB and anyone knew who he was. What's the worst thing he has done since then?

I was talking about May son

[Sisk]

I was talking about May son

Oh. Yeah that guy is a hypocrite.

[rjv]

espn's hypocrisy know no boundaries. they extol the smack talking of the likes of kobe and LeBron on one hand (grown men) while denouncing the less obvious antics of a 20 year old.

[symple19]

C'mon Aggies. Calm down. ESPN is what it is. Just appreciate your QB and enjoy his destruction of the SEC. Gotta have thick skin 'round these here parts

Auburn people are in psych wards over the treatment the Tigers get from ESPN/NYTimes/Finebum/SBB. You don't wanna join them :lol

[Sisk]

New Mexico State vs Texas drew a 0.0 rating



not sec related but didn't want to troll the Texas recruiting thread

[symple19]

Mississippi St :lmao :lmao :lmao

Worst collection of cheerleaders I've ever seen in my life. These dawgs should be relegated to Conf-USA or something

There are at least 3 she-males and one biggun in this sorry group. :vomit:

http://www.spiritgroups.msstate.edu/img/allgirl_header.jpg

[Sisk]

Far right middle row is cute. I think.

[Michael Jordan.]

New Mexico State vs Texas drew a 0.0 rating



not sec related but didn't want to troll the Texas recruiting thread
:lol On the longhorn network. Still concerned with daddeh.

[DesignatedT]

A&M - Rice drew a 2.9 on Saturday. That is a higher rating than 3 out of the last 4 A&M vs Texas games.

[symple19]

http://d3f5994kvuwcz1.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Screen-Shot-2013-09-05-at-12.26.36-PM.png

[Blake]

New Mexico State vs Texas drew a 0.0 rating



not sec related but didn't want to troll the Texas recruiting thread

Bevobsessed.

In an SEC thread no less.

smh.

[DesignatedT]

Bevobsessed.

In an SEC thread no less.

smh.

Tech fan hanging around the SEC thread quoting Aggies. Starting threads about Techs quarterback with Manziel's nickname :lol

Agsessed.

smh.

[Blake]

Tech fan hanging around the SEC thread quoting Aggies. Starting threads about Techs quarterback with Manziel's nickname :lol

Agsessed.

smh.

Kingsbury was Johnny's oc last year so there's a connection.

There's no connection to UT here other than your big brother obsession.

[td4mvp2k]

Lmao @ WKU 5 TOs in 5 plays in da 1st qtr vs Tenn... Petrino sux... Y is dis foo a HC in div 1... :lol

[symple19]

Florida's offense is garbage. Driskel is awful. :lol Gators

[symple19]

Not a sure thing for Auburn tonight, which is sad

[symple19]

USCe/UGA has been great. Coming down to it. 34-30 Dawgs early 4th

[Michael Jordan.]

A&M game tied at 7

[monosylab1k]

Oh hey! The annual "South Carolina shows everyone how overrated they were in preseason polls" game is here a few weeks early!

[LakerHater]

Damn Manziel!

[That's Funked Up]

what kind of world do we live in now that at a foot from the goal it's acceptable to line up line up in the gun

[LakerHater]

NICE D!

[LakerHater]

We got an "Oh Mama"!!

[symple19]

Oh hey! The annual "South Carolina shows everyone how overrated they were in preseason polls" game is here a few weeks early!

:lmao

So true

[LakerHater]

Daaaaaaaaamn, Manziel truckin!!!

[SpursNextRomanEmpire]

Ohhhhh shit. JFF just ran that mofo over.

[Fpoonsie]

Strong move by Johnny. Too bad it won't stand.

[Fpoonsie]

...I suppose Bama had their share of trouble in their first game, but I'm not liking A&M's overall level of play thus far, especially offensively, as it stands thus far and looking ahead to next week.

[Fpoonsie]

Johnny attempting to make the highlight reel other than making the right play.

Christ.

[symple19]

War Eagle.

Auburn looks a lot better tonight

[symple19]

What's happening in Aggieland? 30-21 seems too close, imo

[symple19]

romad_20

congrats on a nice bounceback

[Fpoonsie]

What's happening in Aggieland? 30-21 seems too close, imo

This team overrates itself.

[Fpoonsie]

Rofl. SHSU converting a fake punt on their own side of the field.

[Fpoonsie]

This fucking team.

Shit teams don't even fear them.

[Fpoonsie]

More like it.

[Fpoonsie]

Hill.

[symple19]

:lol 35 points in 3rd quarter

Gig em'

[Sisk]

Hill. Williams.

[symple19]

War Eagle

Auburn looks better, but still a doormat in the West.

Will find out more next week, although they improved from the last game and continue to show heart. I'll take it

[J.T.]

Sup guys. So the longhorns just let a white mormon QB look better than RG3 and as a result I'm flushing my lifelong allegiance to them for A&M. Fuck the horns and may they continue to lose games and employ mack brown for decades.

[Pelicans78]

Sup guys. So the longhorns just let a white mormon QB look better than RG3 and as a result I'm flushing my lifelong allegiance to them for A&M. Fuck the horns and may they continue to lose games and employ mack brown for decades.

Welcome to the SEC. Much better world compared to the Big Trash.

[J.T.]

Welcome to the SEC. Much better world compared to the Big Trash.

:tu Thanks man, I'm glad to be here.

[symple19]

Welcome to the SEC. Much better world compared to the Big Trash.

:lol

Indeed

[Pelicans78]

Speaking of Big Trash, how about Florida's QB?

[Sisk]

Sup guys. So the longhorns just let a white mormon QB look better than RG3 and as a result I'm flushing my lifelong allegiance to them for A&M. Fuck the horns and may they continue to lose games and employ mack brown for decades.

:tu welcome

[Blake]

:lol jt

[J.T.]

:tu welcome

Thanks. Already feels like family in here. I think I made the right call.

[symple19]

:lol

[romad_20]

Thanks. That win over WSU looks good today.

The running game was dominant today. I think they'll need a lot more of that in two weeks against LSU. I like UGA in that game though. They seem to not be self destructing as much this year. No stupid turnovers or penalties so far.

[Sisk]

Knew UGA would win that game yesterday. Like they say... if you're going to lose, lose early. Georgia isn't out of it yet.

[The Reckoning]

this a hoax?


http://www.rollbamaroll.com/2013/9/8/4708644/breaking-saban-headed-to-texas



Following the Texas Longhorns’ upset loss to BYU, passionate football fans across Alabama were appalled to learn that Nick Saban, architect of the current Crimson Tide football dynasty, will be traveling to Texas this weekend as predicted by many West Georgia residents over the past few seasons. Under strict condition of anonymity, sources close to the Alabama program have confirmed that Saban is in fact ticketed on a flight to Texas in the latter part of the week.

[symple19]

this a hoax?


http://www.rollbamaroll.com/2013/9/8/4708644/breaking-saban-headed-to-texas



Following the Texas Longhorns’ upset loss to BYU, passionate football fans across Alabama were appalled to learn that Nick Saban, architect of the current Crimson Tide football dynasty, will be traveling to Texas this weekend as predicted by many West Georgia residents over the past few seasons. Under strict condition of anonymity, sources close to the Alabama program have confirmed that Saban is in fact ticketed on a flight to Texas in the latter part of the week.


wow... Think about this for a second :lol Who does Bama play this weekend... More importantly, where are they playing them?

This all started from a Finebum tweet, and he was trolling mofos. :lol

[Bill_Brasky]

this a hoax?


http://www.rollbamaroll.com/2013/9/8/4708644/breaking-saban-headed-to-texas



Following the Texas Longhorns’ upset loss to BYU, passionate football fans across Alabama were appalled to learn that Nick Saban, architect of the current Crimson Tide football dynasty, will be traveling to Texas this weekend as predicted by many West Georgia residents over the past few seasons. Under strict condition of anonymity, sources close to the Alabama program have confirmed that Saban is in fact ticketed on a flight to Texas in the latter part of the week. :rollin unbelievable how deluded UTfan can be sometimes.

[The Reckoning]

:fishing

[Blake]

I hope ut kicks the shit out of olmiss again

[Kermit]

I hope ut kicks the shit out of olmiss again

Well, you're going to be disappoint.

[Blake]

Well, you're going to be disappoint.

Probably, but I'm still holding on to hope. I just want to see another SEC team go down again.

[Kermit]

Probably, but I'm still holding on to hope. I just want to see another SEC team go down again.

This game being on the LHN is probably for the best. I'm sure ESPN is rethinking their investment right about now.

[DesignatedT]

Probably, but I'm still holding on to hope. I just want to see another SEC team go down again.

:lmao obsessed.

[Blake]

:lmao obsessed.

Hey, i haven't really been keeping up lately, but how are your longhorns doing in recruiting?

[DesignatedT]

Hey, i haven't really been keeping up lately, but how are your longhorns doing in recruiting?


www.rivals.com

[DesignatedT]

SEC television selections for 9/21

http://www.secdigitalnetwork.com/NEWS/tabid/473/Article/246695/sec-football-tv-selections-sept-21.aspx

[Blake]

www.rivals.com

With as much time as you spend in the UT recruiting thread, you can do better than that.

[dirk4mvp]

Well, you're going to be disappoint.

Very

[DesignatedT]

With as much time as you spend in the UT recruiting thread, you can do better than that.

:lmao

Why don't you go back and see who has more posts in that thread over the couple past months.

[Blake]

:lmao

Why don't you go back and see who has more posts in that thread over the couple past months.

Why do you have any posts at all in a UT thread?

:cry tfloss is a great guy. He treats us well. :cry

[DesignatedT]

:lmao

Why don't you go back and see who has more posts in that thread over the couple past months.

[Blake]

Are you trying to say that you aren't obsessed if you have less posts than me?

You're an obsessed idiot.

[DesignatedT]

Are you trying to say that you aren't obsessed if you have less posts than me?

You're an obsessed idiot.

:lmao coming from the tech grad with an Alabama skin, hanging out in the SEC thread.

Priceless.

[Blake]

:lmao coming from the tech grad with an Alabama skin, hanging out in the SEC thread.

Priceless.

you didn't answer the question.

No doubt you'll be back in the UT recruiting thread soon, obsessed with measuring aggy dick next to horn.

[DesignatedT]

:lmao coming from the tech grad with an Alabama skin, hanging out in the SEC thread.

Priceless.

[Blake]

Correct, it's coming from me that you're obsessed with dick measuring.

Also correct that I'm equally obsessed with making fun of aggy.

[The Reckoning]

:lol

[leemajors]

Saban walks out of presser when asked about DJ Fluker:

http://deadspin.com/nick-saban-walks-out-of-press-conference-over-d-j-fluk-1296753370

:lol

[symple19]

Memba this? :lol hacked

And I don't wish ill on any program in the country, except alabama...If this turns out to be true :lmao :lmao :lmao

http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18zvkutqb0n6wpng/ku-xlarge.png

[symple19]

Here's the Yahoo article. Lots of evidence :lol

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ncaaf--documents--texts-reveal-impermissible-benefits-to-five-sec-players-202513237.html

[thunderup]

Fuck Alabama. I hope Johnny Football fucks em up real good.

[DesignatedT]

Fuck Alabama. I hope Johnny Football fucks em up real good.

:tu

Good luck to the Sooners the rest of the way. Hope Trevor Knight gets well soon.

[pgardn]

Saban walks out of presser when asked about DJ Fluker:

http://deadspin.com/nick-saban-walks-out-of-press-conference-over-d-j-fluk-1296753370

:lol

This is getting exciting. If this stuff keeps "rolling" could we see some vacated National Championships?
Saban has thought winning NC makes his players less aggressive. So problem solved...

[symple19]

http://www.nevertoyieldfoundation.com/

Great article. Deals with the bullshit surrounding AU, Aggie, Okie St, and the collective yawn that has answered some real reporting done by Yahoo Sports


Know your role.

That's the message delivered by Sports Illustrated this week as it launched a nuclear attack on the Oklahoma State athletic program.

Know your role.

Is that also the message the NCAA will send in light of clear and obvious violations at Alabama unearthed by Yahoo!Sports?

Unless you're one of the "established powers" if you build your program, if you win, you're clearly violating the rules. That's the basis of SI's assault on OSU.

If you win enough, even the most blatant transgressions can be ignored. Will that be the response to the Yahoo! bombshell?

According to promo material distributed by SI, OSU was chosen for examination because the once-struggling program (11 losing seasons in 12 years) rose to national prominence, winning a Big 12 title and a BCS bowl in 2011.

Read that again.

SI chose to "examine" Oklahoma State because the team rose to national prominence, won a Big 12 title and earned a BCS bowl berth. Apparently Big 12 success is only allowed if you're Oklahoma or Texas.

To this point, the expose on OSU is based on little more than a handful of disgruntled players making vague statements that are essentially unprovable.

Consider the televised hysteria on ESPN and other media outlets based on the thin wisps of rumor that are the foundation of the SI series.

Keep in mind the bellowing that accompanied allegations that Johnny Manziel may have been paid for autographs.

Think back on the lynch mob mentality that followed rumors of rumors about Auburn and Cam Newton in 2010.

Now take a look at news breaking on Yahoo! Sports in regard to payments made to players at Alabama, Tennessee and Mississippi State.

In that story you find real journalism. Detailed receipts, bank records, copies of checks, transcripts of text messages and emails are included in the report. No need to look for smoke here, the Yahoo! report unleashed a roaring ball of flame.

And what's the response to this point so far? A collective national yawn.

ESPN, which built a bonfire on Auburn rumors and set it ablaze again for Manziel and the Cowboys scarcely mentioned the report. It was ignored despite the fact that there's more actual documented concrete evidence of improprieties in one paragraph of the Yahoo! story than there is and was all the gallons of ink spilled over Auburn, OSU and Manziel combined to this point.

We cannot speak to the veracity of the allegations being brought against the OSU Cowboys. We have no idea if what is alleged is true or not. We hope the allegations are just that, and there is no substance behind them.

We know that the allegations hurled against Auburn were false.

We know that there was no evidence that Manziel was paid for autographs. NCAA said so.

It's pretty difficult to deny copies of checks, receipts and transcripts, though. They are what they are.


CHECKMATE

At least in this case we won't have to worry about Danny Sheridan searching for a phantom bagman. There are names and dates on the checks.

As observers, it's fairly obvious that the method of attack, the faces behind it and the personal agendas that may be driving the assaults on Manziel and OSU seem remarkably similar those applied against Auburn.

This all feels awfully familar to an Auburn family that withstood months of rumor and innuendo.

Was the 2010 attack on Auburn because the program didn't know its role? Because our Tigers dared to enter the national championship discussion with clearly the best player in decades at the helm? Were we grilled and drilled for being usurpers to the throne of the traditional powers?

Did Oklahoma State threaten to upset the applecart by positioning itself to possibly play for the national title a year ago?


ONE OF THESE THINGS IS NOT LIKE THE OTHER

Did Manziel's cocky attitude offend the purists and challenge the staid powers that be? Did he rile those same chirping purists who seem to have forgotten how they revel in the past exploits of players like Joe Namath and Kenny Stabler?

Eventually exonerated by the NCAA (and every other investigating body) our beloved Auburn program was still convicted in the court of public opinion by a lazy and agenda-driven media. We bear the scars of that trial by fire, even though none of it had any validity.

Manziel, despite being cleared by the NCAA and forced to serve a farcical half game suspension, can never escape the Johnny Autograph tag no matter what he does on the field.

That's the fate of Oklahoma State today. Regardless of the truth of the matter, their program has been forever branded. It doesn't matter if every allegation is thoroughly and completely debunked and refuted. This stain will remain.

We've been there. Every allegation against Auburn was proved false. Every rumor was followed to its last wisp of smoke. There was nothing there. And still today we fight a perception that is absolutely baseless while the real violators ? those who actually engaged in nefarious activities ? sail on unscathed.

Will that continue now, even in the face of the hard cold facts detailed in the Yahoo! report?

Know your role, OSU. How dare you make a BCS bowl, challenge for the national title, rebuild your program? Stay in your place and publications like SI won't let people like Thayer Evans loose on you.

You remember Evans. He was front and center of the campaign against Cam Newton in 2010. He helped lead the torch and pitchfork charge with distorted facts, empty rumors, unverified allegations and unsupportable leaps of logic. Maybe he hoped to make a name for himself with the house of cards he built against Auburn.

He's back again, targeting another school with the same shady, unreliable and completely unprovable claims.

Respected journalist Jason Whitlock, who contributes to ESPN excoriated Evans and trashed the SI piece.

Having worked with Thayer Evans at Fox Sports, having followed his work for some time, I am completely and utterly flabbergasted that a legitimate news outlet would allow Thayer Evans to be involved in some type of investigative piece on college football that tears down a program, and particularly one that tears down Oklahoma State when it is no secret what a huge, enormous, gigantic Oklahoma homer Thayer Evans is. This is just incredible. Knowing the lack of competence that's there with Thayer Evans, knowing the level of simplemindedness that's there with Thayer Evans, to base any part of the story on his reporting is mind-boggling.

It's worth noting here that Evans was once a beat reporter in Oklahoma, covering the Sooners, who provided a salacious (and refuted by everyone connected) report to the New York Times about the recruitment of a high school player who rejected the Longhorns and signed with OU.

Just as in Evans' sensational piece slamming Oklahoma State, the article on the Texas recruitment has just enough information to make it seem plausible while avoiding pesky little things like details. It's impossible to verify when all you have to go on is a vague "some man I didn't know offered me" type allegations. Evans provides essentially the same level of proof offered against both Texas in 2008 and Oklahoma State in 2012.

Evans springboarded from that to a regular post with the Times and then to a position with FoxSports, the platform from which he launched his dubious attacks on Auburn.

To Whitlock's point, it's a disgrace that Sports Illustrated would permit Evans, whose allegiance to Oklahoma is undeniable, to run point on a piece that tears down a rival, particularly if it bases that decision on the fact that the rival has emerged as a threat to the established powers. It smacks of the worst kind of bias and elitism.

It's also curious that the litany of allegations detailed against OSU all seem to follow the same basic pattern as those leveled against Auburn.

We hope for the sake of college football that Evans is once again proven to be nothing more than a raker of muck who has all the credibility of a sea slug. Even though it's too late for OSU to avoid the damage to the public perception this series of articles has already caused, we can hope against hope that another abject reporting failure by Evans will finally render his career as impotent as his articles tend to be.

Know your role, Johnny Manziel. Otherwise a lawyer with Alabama ties might smear your name.

Is it a coincidence that the Alabama-educated lawyer who contacted reporters claiming that he was brokering deals to sell Manziel autographs is also the person who released a defamatory doctored video of Auburn head coach Gus Malzahn's wife? Is it further coincidence that this same lawyer wrote thousands of dollars worth of checks that are central to the Yahoo! report's paper trail?

It's no coincidence lawyer, sports agent and Alabama booster John Phillips was central to all three.

John Phillips, a sports agent who runs The Breakthrough Sports Agency, originally uploaded the video of Kristi Malzahn on YouTube.
Florida lawyer John Phillips (@JohnPhillips) contacted us and said there are photos of Manziel at Drew Tieman's house signing autographs.
In the text records, (Luther) Davis notifies (John) Phillips that he is picking up (D.J.) Fluker following Alabama's 33-14 home win over Ole Miss, and bringing him to meet Phillips at his hotel. Following the meeting on Sept. 30, records show that Davis deposited Phillips' $10,000 check on Oct. 1.
For years we've watched this charade in Tuscaloosa.


STRUGGLE OVER WIT?

Fishing trips. Laptops. Grade changes. Transcript alterations. Cash-laden tweets. Suit after suit after suit. Autograph signings. Sushi dinners. House sitting jobs. Rental cars. "Disassociated" boosters with obvious and often photographed access to the team and coaches. Every bit of this well documented.

Is this pursued? No. Typically state media attempts to explain it all away and it is ignored nationally.

Instead the media sets the hounds loose to chase faint smoke and threadbare accusation against Auburn. Against Manziel. And now against Oklahoma State.

During the numerous investigations into Auburn in 2010, all of which turned up nothing, the media mantra was one of corruption, shame and disgrace. Auburn was allegedly out of control and Newton, in particular was a pariah.

Where was that same outrage in the immediate aftermath of the Yahoo! release? The spin coming from national pundits was "poor kids, coming from poor families, so what if they took money? Good for them!"

Dan Wetzel tugged on Hurricane Katrina heartstrings, noting:


ROOM FOR FOUR?

It looks even worse when it argues that something horrible occurred if a kid such as D.J. Fluker, who grew up poor even before Hurricane Katrina left him homeless and sleeping in a car with four others, actually accepted some of the money that just about everyone was willing to throw at him because they've defined his worth as far greater than just tuition, room and board.

Really? Was that before or after he put new rims on his gold Caddy?

Where was the "poor kids" angle when the media was relentlessly (and fruitlessly) pursuing Cam?

The NCAA investigated Auburn based on nothing more than a shadow. It dogged Manziel on the word of an Alabama booster. It's opening the books on OSU on the vague supposed recollections of a handful of disgruntled former players as related by a fan of its major rival.

If the NCAA turns a blind eye to the Yahoo! report and its thoroughly researched, well documented account of flagrant violations at Alabama (and MSU and Tennessee) then we'll all know. If the national media continues to ignore the irrefutable transgressions outlined in the Yahoo! report then we'll all know. We'll know for sure that there are different sets of rules for different programs.

If the howling pack of jackals in the national media picks the Yahoo! report up and tears into it with the same breathless hysteria it did with the Auburn allegations and the Manziel autograph saga, then we'll know that there are no sacred cows.

If the NCAA storms into Tuscaloosa with a team of investigators to leave no stone unturned, then we'll know that the rules are the same for everybody and that there is some modicum of fairness in the application of those rules.

Until then, those schools that aren't considered traditional powers need to know their role. Otherwise someone with a personal agenda might decide to try and bury them.

[Blake]

Yeah it's not fair to Oklahoma State in the sense that they aren't going after all the schools in the power 5 conferences.

It's like being that one that got pulled over for speeding when everyone else was going faster than you.

[DesignatedT]

Steve ‏@jagvocate 5h
Kliff Kingsbury on Tim Brando: "Johnny Manziel's the best college QB I have ever seen."

[Sisk]

Sumlin landed in Arlington today in the maroon helicopter to see DE Myles Garrett play this evening.

[Clipper Nation]

:lmao

Why don't you go back and see who has more posts in that thread over the couple past months.
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/misc.php?do=whoposted&t=209224 (for some reason, all the text is white, so you have to highlight everything to see it)

You: 51 posts
Blake: 20 posts

[DesignatedT]

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/misc.php?do=whoposted&t=209224 (for some reason, all the text is white, so you have to highlight everything to see it)

You: 51 posts
Blake: 20 posts

You know the part where I said "past couple months". I meant it.

[Blake]

You know the part where I said "past couple months". I meant it.

So you're saying you're not as obsessed with UT today as you were just a couple of months ago.

neato.

[Blake]

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/misc.php?do=whoposted&t=209224 (for some reason, all the text is white, so you have to highlight everything to see it)

You: 51 posts
Blake: 20 posts

Yeah but check yesterday. And when I say yesterday, i mean it.

[romad_20]

Oregon vs Tenn - How bad will Tenn lose in this game? I think if they can keep it within 14 points that would be a victory for them. They won't

Auburn vs Miss St - Symple, do they start 3-0? I think the fighting Malzahns pull this one off.

UL vs UK - Rivalry game, might be somewhat close, but UK lost to WKU. They more than likely lose and lose big. Bridgewater throws for another 4-5 TD's

Vandy vs USC - This might be the second best game in the SEC of the weekend. Probably a low scoring physical game. I think Clowney gets on track and wrecks Vandy.

A&M vs Bama - My head says Bama doesn't lose to the same team in a row. My heart really would like to see this game be as exciting as last year's. I don't think it will. Close first half, Bama will have the game in hand in the 4th. Hope I'm wrong on this one.

[DesignatedT]

So you're saying you're not as obsessed with UT today as you were just a couple of months ago.

neato.

I'm saying I seldom post in the thread to begin with and when I do it's usually in the off-season when no football is going on, recruiting is a hot topic and national signing day is coming up. I get on this site too much to begin with but the only forums I really post in our this one and the Spurs forum. During the off-season the only thread here generating any type of conversation tends to be that one. It's also about a topic I am interested in and follow annually. I don't go in that thread talking shit to anybody or for the purpose of "dick measuring".

[Blake]

It's also about a topic I am interested in and follow annually.

the topic of the thread is UT recruiting.

Hornsessed

[DesignatedT]

Lol K.

SEC Game Schedule:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BT_fEJRCUAINtGv.png

[Michael Jordan.]

:lol Consistently pimping the SEC

[symple19]

Oregon vs Tenn - How bad will Tenn lose in this game? I think if they can keep it within 14 points that would be a victory for them. They won't

Auburn vs Miss St - Symple, do they start 3-0? I think the fighting Malzahns pull this one off.

UL vs UK - Rivalry game, might be somewhat close, but UK lost to WKU. They more than likely lose and lose big. Bridgewater throws for another 4-5 TD's

Vandy vs USC - This might be the second best game in the SEC of the weekend. Probably a low scoring physical game. I think Clowney gets on track and wrecks Vandy.

A&M vs Bama - My head says Bama doesn't lose to the same team in a row. My heart really would like to see this game be as exciting as last year's. I don't think it will. Close first half, Bama will have the game in hand in the 4th. Hope I'm wrong on this one.

Oregon/Tenn will be ugly. Oregon by at least 21

MSU gets their QB back, a guy who really hurt us last year. Look for the Dawgs to put 8 in the box and make Nick Marshall beat them. AU 24-20

UK will get destroyed

I like Vandy to keep it somewhat close, but USCe is going to take out those Georgia frustrations. Agree that Clowney breaks out

Bama/A&M will be as advertised. This is the only place I disagree with your assessment. Aggie will have a shot to win in the 4th but come up short

[symple19]

BTW, I think Kyle field will be a factor in the Bama game. Can't imagine there's been a bigger contest at CS in recent memory. Aggie will be even more loud and liquored than usual.

[Blake]

:lol Consistently pimping the SEC

The greatest video ever made:

http://deadspin.com/5923148/texas-am-made-a-really-sad-video-because-they-just-want-the-sec-to-like-them

[J.T.]

Reflecting back on how badly the horns betrayed me and this scene came to mind

QiZNSzWIaLo

Ready to kick some bammer ass tomorrow though #gigem

[J.T.]

Also lot of my homeys kinda hate me now but det "have fun at the papajohns.com bowl" retort is OP as fuck. I knew what I was getting into when I decided to switch to A&M whilst having an Austin address.

[symple19]

This Prescott guy is Cam Newtoning Auburn

[symple19]

Helluva game

[symple19]

Auburn just went 98 yards in 2 minutes and won the goddamn game

WAR DAMN EAGLE

[symple19]

http://media.tumblr.com/152e7e299a4d872c4987b83ef55a350a/tumblr_inline_mp0xxgEUw51qz4rgp.gif

http://media.tumblr.com/cd636943428ebff1cdf603c54aab57ec/tumblr_inline_mrvmaes78K1qz4rgp.gif

http://25.media.tumblr.com/c30f4a05e22df8ba4b526e95cf19b512/tumblr_mnsw6uOM0S1rqfhi2o1_250.gif

http://rack.3.mshcdn.com/media/ZgkyMDEzLzA4LzA1L2QwL2JyYWRwaXR0LmJjMmQyLmdpZgpwCX RodW1iCTg1MHg1OTA-CmUJanBn/1a5a0c57/968/brad-pitt.jpg

http://rack.0.mshcdn.com/media/ZgkyMDEzLzA4LzA1L2ViL2hpZ2hzY2hvb2xtLjI4YjJhLmdpZg pwCXRodW1iCTg1MHg1OTA-CmUJanBn/4755556e/b82/high-school-musical-victory.jpg

http://rack.2.mshcdn.com/media/ZgkyMDEzLzA4LzA1L2ZkL25hcG9sZW9uZHluLjBiMTFlLmdpZg pwCXRodW1iCTg1MHg1OTA-CmUJanBn/8767246f/d7a/napoleon-dynamite.jpg

http://rack.1.mshcdn.com/media/ZgkyMDEzLzA4LzA1LzYyL2FuY2hvcm1hbi42NjJkYS5naWYKcA l0aHVtYgk4NTB4NTkwPgplCWpwZw/009ee80f/1c0/anchorman.jpg

https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/6530626048/h336818BE/

[symple19]

I know its sad, but when you go 3-9 you'll take anything you can get

Plus, I'm drunk...Plus, fuck you :lol

http://fullpunchmain.fullpunch.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/12-celebration.gif

[DesignatedT]

Manziel and the Aggies had blown out to a 14-0 lead. It was reminiscent of that quick start last November in Tuscaloosa, and Kouandjio admitted concern, considering everything. Kyle Field was rocking – "the loudest crowd I've ever seen," he said, and presumably it sounded loud, too – and he started praying: "The Lord is better than all this noise."

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/sec/2013/09/14/alabama-texas-am-offensive-line/2815223/

[symple19]

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/sec/2013/09/14/alabama-texas-am-offensive-line/2815223/

Hope he blows out his knee next week

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

I have a feeling that the OM/Texas game is going to be another stomping.

(...of the Rebels, of course)
Great prediction!

[Sisk]

Sam Ponder ‏@samsteeleponder (https://twitter.com/samsteeleponder)14 Sep (https://twitter.com/samsteeleponder/status/379025167420112896)
Not for or against A&M, but I've been to all the "big time" stadiums & Kyle Field is my #1 recommendation... pic.twitter.com/Er3HB8QEew (http://t.co/Er3HB8QEew)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BUKRYaTCMAAOPbG.jpg

[DMX7]

Great prediction!

lol, I'll eat crow for that... but in my defense that prediction is like 5 months old. I was predicting a full blown beatdown of Mack & Crew yesterday BEFORE the game in light of the fact that present circumstances have changed slightly.

[DesignatedT]

For the fiscal year ending Aug. 31, Texas A&M received a mammoth $740 million in pledges and gifts, according to an email sent out by chancellor John Sharp. When it's all collected and finalized, it should be an all-time record for an American university. And make no mistake: it's about football.

http://deadspin.com/texas-a-m-raised-a-record-740-million-in-donations-las-1334527524

[Blake]

http://deadspin.com/texas-a-m-raised-a-record-740-million-in-donations-las-1334527524

Winning and a Johnny autograph will do that

[The Reckoning]

http://deadspin.com/texas-a-m-raised-a-record-740-million-in-donations-las-1334527524


pretty sad if you think about it

my brother (aggie alum) bought a 72 inch tv just to watch the bama game rofl.

[symple19]

http://www.nevertoyieldfoundation.com/2013/the-hammer-must-fall/


In the days since allegations against Alabama, Mississippi State and Tennessee were posted by Yahoo!Sports in one of the most thoroughly researched and vetted pieces we’ve ever seen, we watched aghast as the biggest voice in national sports media either ignored or downplayed the allegations.
We stood by in amazement as the national narrative twisted the entire episode into a condemnation of NCAA rules and the mistreatment of “poor athletes.”
Legions of national writers and talking heads charged to the defense with the “poor mistreated athletes” line.
Many of those same apologists further their argument by absurdly postulating that the fact that Alabama’s D.J. Fluker (and others) apparently received illegal benefits is justification to open the doors to legalizing pay for play.
All those who echo this sentiment couldn’t be more wrong.
Opening this Pandora’s Box and legalizing this type of activity would destroy the sport we all love. It would turn NCAA football into a mini NFL.
To follow this perverted logic to its natural conclusion, college athletics would eventually be replaced by a NFL minor league. Forget the on-campus passion and pageantry of Auburn v. Alabama, we’d all cheer just as hard for the Tuscaloosa Titans (a minor league Tennessee franchise) or the Auburn Falcons (a minor league team for the Atlanta franchise) right?
You can’t even open that door a crack without unleashing the floodgates. The sport that we know and love would never be the same.
Is that truly what anyone wants?
That’s why the NCAA can’t look the other way when clear and incontrovertible proof of violations like those of the Yahoo! report are exposed. Those floodgates must remain closed.
The “everybody does it” justification simply doesn’t wash.
Everybody doesn’t do it.
Auburn apparently doesn’t. Stop listening to the bagger down at the grocery store who “knows” Aubren cheats. Quit taking the snickering word of radio hack Paul Finebaum who claims Auburn “got away with it”.
Listen to the NCAA (http://www.ncaa.com/content/auburn-ncaa-investigation-letter). It has spoken. The sport’s governing body spent months examining every speck of dust around the program and found no violations. Nothing.
No matter what you’ve heard on message boards, from crackpot conspiracy theorists, from your neighbor’s cousin or from those too lazy to pay attention to simple fact, the NCAA found nothing. And it tried.
In fairness to those who do things the right way, those who violate the rules deserve repercussions.
Many of media members now crying for leniency for these poor impoverished kids are the very same ones who crucified Cam Newton’s family for allegedly considering an offer of payment from Mississippi State. Where was the “poor downtrodden athlete” banner when Newton and his father were being wrongly excoriated as the living symbol of all that’s wrong with college athletics?
To fly the “poor athlete” flag now is a double standard. And it’s wrong.
Those who violate the rules of the game should be punished. Period.
That’s why if violations were uncovered against Auburn, we would be first in line calling for appropriate action and for those involved to be disciplined.
That’s why Alabama must pay.
Please don’t hand us the “poor kids need the money” line as an excuse now. That’s a self-serving farce. These “poor kids” get their college education paid for, they get the chance to play their way into a multi-million dollar professional career and the opportunity to earn a college degree. They’re provided with spending money, financial aid, room and board. None of them are starving or homeless.
How many parents with college age children get the same benefits?
Stop trying to tell us “how could anyone have known.”
Much has been made nationally of Fluker’s abject poverty and of how he once supposedly lived in his car. That heart-tugging story is used as rationale for Fluker taking whatever graft was tossed his way.
Was he so poor that he kept his spare change spread across three different bank accounts (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ncaaf--documents--texts-reveal-impermissible-benefits-to-five-sec-players-202513237.html) as the Yahoo! report noted?
Did his alleged lack of spending money require an infusion of nearly $40,000 and some new furniture (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ncaaf--sticks-n-stuff-bedroom-receipt-073233283.html) to boot?
Can any of you say with a straight face that nobody on that campus noticed poor Fluker driving a gold Cadillac (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BIkZrlQCUAAFqQ7.jpg) with sparkling new rims and a personalized license plate?
That’s the problem with this entire line of thinking. Where does it end? Is a set of high-priced rims truly a necessity?
For those who have watched this saga over the years, the era of plausible deniability has passed.
The massive paper trail that follows Fluker validates everything we’ve seen swept under the Crimson carpet over the last decade.
Chargers. Laptops. Fishing trips. Suits. Rims. House sitting. Rental cars. Players flipping commitments and being sequestered by boosters. It’s a wide brush and it now paints all with suspicion.
How does a family that can barely afford a jar of peanut butter go from scraping by to living in a mini mansion and driving rental cars all over creation? Multiple traffic citations verify this.
Literally thousands of pictures (http://outkickthecoverage.com/fsearch.php?cn=albetar&submit.x=-1237&submit.y=-142) of players consorting with a supposedly disassociated booster flood the Internet (http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/tag/Tom_Al_Betar). This disassociated booster is captured on the sidelines (http://outkickthecoverage.com/owner-of-t-town-menswear-had-alabama-sideline-passes-in-2009-and-2010.php), wearing championship rings (http://i.imgur.com/pLAfl9i.jpg), and blabbing all over town about his close relationship with the team.
Alabama players whose “struggle is over wit” race to Twitter to display wads of cash (http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2013/07/alabamas_dee_liner_posts_pictu.html).
Nobody knew? Nobody was aware? Not a single person on campus had any idea? That defies rational logic.
Nobody cared is more like it.
Nobody cared because they believe that even when faced with absolute concrete proof they remain untouchable. They believe themselves too big, too powerful, too important to fall. They believe, with justification, that whatever the transgression it will be quietly swept away.
Their air of invincibility has justification.
Take the media treatment of the recruitment of Dee Liner as a prime example. When Liner was committed to Auburn, his pledge was decried as an affront to human decency. Jeff Sentell of the Birmingham News called out Auburn (http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2012/08/auburn_should_rescind_offer_to.html), saying the program should rescind his offer for the greater good of the game.
When Liner flipped his verbal, signed with the rival Crimson Tide and burst onto Twitter with a wad of cash (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1719940-alabama-dl-dee-liner-flashes-wads-of-cash-on-instagram), where was the media outrage then? Where was Sentell’s piousness? Why did Liner’s supposed lack of character suddenly not matter?
In August, Liner’s coach suspended him indefinitely (http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/recruiting/eye-on-recruiting/19816058/report-five-star-auburn-commit-dee-liner-suspended-indefinitely-from-high-school-team) and tersely told a Florence newspaper he was more interested in helping Liner as a person than a football player.
After Liner signed with Alabama in February, that same coach dismissed Liner’s issues (http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2013/02/dee_liner_announces_hell_atten.htm), including the suspension, as misunderstandings.
“There’s a lot of misinformation out there, a lot of innuendo, things people like to perceive that happened one way that didn’t.”
Where did the misinformation, innuendo and perception come from?
Boosters with questionable ties including John Phillips, also curiously at the center of the Manziel autograph scandal, former player Luther Davis and T-Town Menswear’s Tom Albetar don’t even attempt to hide their access flaunting championship rings and boasting about their close association with the program on social media and (since expunged (https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B70WkAs0eDO8cFZ3MFlrMzNrOHM/edit)) podcasts. In emails, Davis was so unconcerned about potential issues that helabeled invoices with the names of Alabama players (http://www.boltsfromtheblue.com/2013/9/11/4720608/report-d-j-fluker-took-money-from-agents-while-in-college). That’s either careless or brash.
It’s Heisenberg-level hubris.
Why does it seem stories with the potential to damage or defame Alabama are typically minimized? Could it be fear of the backlash and of lost advertisers and ratings? Is it as simple as a self-preserving desire to pander to the power of the masses?
Should that it matter more than the truth?
The rules cannot be different for one program than they are for another.
That’s why this cannot be ignored. The rules exist for a reason. Select programs should not be above them.
That’s why those indicting the rules instead of the rule breakers are wrong.
The argument most often pushed now is that the NCAA rules are stupid and need to be changed.
So what?
Suppose for the moment that the rules do require change. Imagine that before next season the NCAA legalizes any sort of pay-for-play a program wants to employ.
That still does not change the rules that are in place today or were in place in 2011 and 2012. Those are the rules Fluker allegedly violated. What rules may be in the future have no bearing.
When the state changed the speed limit from 55 to 70, did it go back and give refunds to all those ticketed prior to the change? Of course not.
That’s where we are today as crickets chirp in the wake of the Yahoo!Sports report.
Rules were apparently broken. Compelling evidence is there for anyone to see.
We now feel certain that what has often been alleged is probably true. The paper trail is hard to argue. We know the difference between the unsubstantiated gossip that plagued Newton and the stone cold facts that make up the Yahoo! report.
It seems clear that the current elephant in the college football room is dirty. No matter what happens from this point, the ballyhooed Crimson championships are tainted.
All the things we heard, all the rumors of improprieties that surround the program now carry legitimate weight. They can’t be ignored or casually explained away.
There is some satisfaction in knowing that for all the mud that was hurled at Auburn over the last three years, the real mud was apparently piling up in Tuscaloosa. For all the cries of “smoke” that were raised, the fire that caused that smoke was actually raging at the Capstone.
Knowledge, though, is not enough. Action is demanded.
The hammer must fall. Not just for our own peace of mind, but for the good of the sport.
Ozymandias.

[symple19]

Truth bombs ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[DesignatedT]

Great All-Access piece by Bruce Feldman who spent a week with the A&M football program leading up to Alabama

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/writer/bruce-feldman/23720788/all-access-an-exclusive-behind-the-scenes-look-at-how-am-prepared-for-top-ranked-alabama-

[td4mvp2k]

:lol @ deez SEC defenses

[Magua]

:lolBRHornet
:lolLSU bleauxs

[jeebus]

384092156282933248

Steve Kerr going HAM on that shitty defense

[The Reckoning]

only because all SEC teams are powerhouses tbh. the GOAT conference :cry.

[td4mvp2k]

Lmao LSU chokin anotha season away...

[DesignatedT]

Not like there was two future starting NFL QBs playing against each other or anything............................

[The Reckoning]

holy shit what a grab

[Pelicans78]

Not like there was two future starting NFL QBs playing against each other or anything............................

These idiots don't know anything. Both LSU and Georgia lost 15 defensive players to the draft. The defense didn't have a chance in this game. SEC defenses are down across the board this season outside of Florida and Bama. That was obvious before the season started.

[Sisk]

The best is the reckoning talking shit about defenses :lol

[Blake]

Lol Missouri.

It's way to forget they're in the sec

[Pelicans78]

Man, A&M's defense is brutal. They're gonna allow 100 points when they go to Baton Rouge later in the year.

[leemajors]

Pretty entertaining game here tbh, arky keeps scoring

[Pelicans78]

It wouldn't surprise me at all if a non-SEC teams wins the BCS title this season. Don't see any complete teams in the conference this year.

[The Reckoning]

The best is the reckoning talking shit about defenses :lol


salty?

UT defense sucks too because of SEC's M:crynny Di:cryz

[leemajors]

Shoulda run Collins on 2nd or 3rd, shame

[DesignatedT]

These idiots don't know anything. Both LSU and Georgia lost 15 defensive players to the draft. The defense didn't have a chance in this game. SEC defenses are down across the board this season outside of Florida and Bama. That was obvious before the season started.

The over and under was 63 for a reason

[symple19]

Big win for Ugga. If only they had a defense :lol

That said, I think they could beat Bama. I also think LSU can beat Bama. Not sure their win today was all that impressive. Ole Miss seems to have laid an egg

[leemajors]

http://deadspin.com/report-alabama-assistant-loaned-money-to-haha-clinton-1440799155


After yesterday's practice, Nick Saban announced that standout safety Ha'Sean "HaHa" Clinton-Dix was suspended indefinitely. No reason given, just "violation of team rules," as with many of the other nine Bama players suspended over the past eight months. Now we've got a pretty good clue: Alabama has placed an assistant strength coach on administrative leave for providing a "short-term loan" to Clinton-Dix.

That's per the Tuscaloosa News, which also reports that assistant strength and conditioning coach Corey Harris has "a connection to an associate of a sports agent." Clinton-Dix has at least three degrees of separation from the guy he's not supposed to talk to—athletes are getting smarter about this.

According to the News, Harris made a loan under $500 to Clinton-Dix sometime over the summer. Clinton-Dix was able to show bank records backing up his claim that he repaid Harris. Which is still an NCAA violation, and not merely a "violation of team rules." The only reason teams suspend good players is fear of having to forfeit wins.

[symple19]

Filthy, dirty, bammers

Shit is stacking up against them, tbh

[symple19]

War Eagle. Some normalcy has returned to earth. State of Mississippi swept

Auburn improved drastically, especially on the defensive end, during their week off.

Dirk4mvp --- gg. Rebs are young and have a bright future, but that run defense has to get better. We beat you guys in the trenches on both sides which is basically why Auburn won

[DesignatedT]

SEC game times for week 8

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BV_BRS5CEAAQPqi.png:large

Looks like A&M/Auburn got the 2:30 CBS slot Symple. Should be a good one.

[leemajors]

those last 3 are solid

[symple19]

Auburn is gonna get worked, imo. Might put up some points, but no way can they outscore you guys, even though the defense has improved. 42-24, tbh.

Next year the Tigers will be legit again. They have improved each week, drastically so over the bye. That's the mark of a good coach. Very pleased with how things are progressing

[symple19]

Mizzou/Fla should be good, too

[Sisk]

Auburn is gonna get worked, imo. Might put up some points, but no way can they outscore you guys, even though the defense has improved. 42-24, tbh.

Next year the Tigers will be legit again. They have improved each week, drastically so over the bye. That's the mark of a good coach. Very pleased with how things are progressing

I haven't had a chance to see Auburn other than against Arky for a little bit. Glad yall are improving. Arky can stay shitty forever, though.

[symple19]

I haven't had a chance to see Auburn other than against Arky for a little bit. Glad yall are improving. Arky can stay shitty forever, though.

Played Arky St., not the Razorbacks

And yes, Arkansas can eat shit. Looking forward to beating them later this year

[Sisk]

I meant ole miss. Not sure what I was thinking.

[DesignatedT]

A&M announced today it lost its starting DT Kirby Ennis for the season with an ACL tear. Really tough blow for A&M. The only one on our D-Line with a lot of experience. He will be replaced by a true freshman.

[DesignatedT]

Our starting front 7 now consists of 1 sophmore, 1 junior, and 5 true freshman. :lol

That's what Boston Mike left us on defense.

[DesignatedT]

Who wouldn't want to play for this guy?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ao5txQ2gYqI&feature=c4-overview&list=UUlOROn-LOaafYOvVKMGeU_g

[Sisk]

Fuckin boss

[Michael Jordan.]

:lmao Georgia getting beat by Mizzou
:lol SEC

[Sisk]

Missouri is in the SEC.

[Michael Jordan.]

Missouri is in the SEC.
And were a doormat in the Big XII :rollin

[Sisk]

And were a doormat in the Big XII :rollin

You try too hard.

[Michael Jordan.]

:lol SEC Defense

[Clipper Nation]

:lol Big 12 doormats magically turning into contenders in the SEC

[The Reckoning]

lol georgia overrated as usual.

they're an overrated program in general. that's what i've been saying.

[Sisk]

lol georgia overrated as usual.

they're an overrated program in general. that's what i've been saying.

Do you realize how many injuries they've had since the Clemson game?

[Michael Jordan.]

lol georgia overrated as usual.

they're an overrated program in general. that's what i've been saying.
Aggyfan: ":cry But, but, the SEC is the deepest conference in the nation :cry"

[Michael Jordan.]

Do you realize how many injuries they've had since the Clemson game?
Georgia choking goes way beyond just this year.

:lol SEC apologist

[The Reckoning]

Aggyfan: "cry But, but, the SEC is the deepest conference in the nation :cry"


:cry they've hurt themswelves. lotsa bobos :cry

[Michael Jordan.]

:rollin

[Sisk]

:lol The best team in the B12 is Baylor. Let that sink in.

[Michael Jordan.]

:lol The best team in the B12 is Baylor. Let that sink in.
:lol butthurt
:lol no one said the Big XII was good
:lol overrated ass SEC

[symple19]

:wow Mizzou. Happy for them.

Those injuries finally caught up with UGA. Not going to keep winning when half your starters are 3rd stringers

:lol Arky

Going to be interesting to see if LSU can keep scoring against the best defense in the SEC. LSU 24-14 imo

[symple19]

I know it's Western Carolina, but Auburn started a true frosh today and he threw for almost 200 and led the Tigers to 42 points in the first half. 3rd qtr just underway :lol

Future is bright, tbh

[Sisk]

:lol butthurt
:lol no one said the Big XII was good
:lol overrated ass SEC

Who is better than the SEC?

[Sisk]

I hope Florida beats LSU tbh.

[Clipper Nation]

Do you realize how many injuries they've had since the Clemson game?
What happened to that "SEC depth"? Where are all those SEC backups who "would start in any other conference"? :lol

[Sisk]

What happened to that "SEC depth"? Where are all those SEC backups who "would start in any other conference"? :lol

They have lost backups too... Try to keep up.

[symple19]

I hope Florida beats LSU tbh.

I do too, but I highly doubt it happens

[Michael Jordan.]

Who is better than the SEC?
Alabama, Auburn, Florida, and LSU have all won at least one NCAA championship since 2006. Because of these 4 teams domination, the SEC is now known as the greatest conference from top to bottom. But what about the other 10 teams? Has anyone ever sat down and analyzed the records and wins of the entire conference and answered the question "Is the SEC the best conference from top to bottom?"

To answer the above question, I took a look at the other 10 teams (Missouri and Texas A&M have been in the SEC since 2012, so their records from 2006 - 2011 are meaningless in this debate). The answer that I got was...well....below average.

So how did I come to this conclusion? I began by looking at a teams total record and looking exclusively at their non conference records. EVERYONE had a winning non conference record, or at least .500. So I began to look deeper at exactly who these teams were playing. After getting rid of the UABs and Citadel's of the schedule I was able to see the...well...below average nature of the SEC.

The SEC is a combined 47-48 against opponents from "Top Conferences (i.e. Big Ten, Big 12, Big East, Pac-10, ACC, and I threw in Boise State as well)". This is not bad at all....BUT...I decided to do something radical....I took away Georgia from the equation...once I did that, the SEC is a paltry 33-43 against top conference schools. In fact only 3 teams (4 if you count Texas A&M from last year) have a winning record against top conferences since 2006 (South Carolina, Georgia, & Kentucky) while 5 (6 including Missouri) have .500 or below records. This isn't a dominating conference. This is a top heavy conference with a bunch of below average teams riding the coat-tails of its upper echelon programs. And there's nothing wrong with that. But let's not sit here and act as if the SEC is a great conference from top to bottom when Arkansas is posting a 1-6 record against top conferences since 2006.

Another stat I want to leave you with is this. Including the 10 average / below average teams in the SEC, when going up against the most overrated conference in the NCAA (Big Ten supposedly), these SEC teams r 7 - 8. That's right, a losing record against Big Ten teams. And these are loses to Michigan State, Penn State, Northwestern, Wisconsin, Ohio State, Iowa, and Michigan. That doesnt spell domination to me...that spells.....below average (average at best).

[Sisk]

Nice font.

[Michael Jordan.]

fixed

[Clipper Nation]

:lol The best team in the B12 is Baylor. Let that sink in.
Imagine what Baylor would do to det lolaggie "defense" :lol

[Sisk]

Imagine what Baylor would do to det lolaggie "defense" :lol

Still get outscored by us.

[Sisk]

fixed

All of that and still you didn't answer the question.

[Clipper Nation]

Still get outscored by us.
:lmao

[Michael Jordan.]

All of that and still you didn't answer the question.
If you read their losing record against the big 10....

[Sisk]

If you read their losing record against the big 10....

So you believe the Big 10 is a better conference than the SEC?

[Michael Jordan.]

So you believe the Big 10 is a better conference than the SEC?
This year, yes.

[Sisk]

:lmao

[Michael Jordan.]

:lmao
:lol losing to a Big XII doormat.

[Sisk]

:lol losing to a Big XII doormat.

You aren't good at this.

[Michael Jordan.]

You aren't good at this.
Neither is the SEC apparently.

[Michael Jordan.]

:lmao SEC defense

[rjv]

Alabama, Auburn, Florida, and LSU have all won at least one NCAA championship since 2006. Because of these 4 teams domination, the SEC is now known as the greatest conference from top to bottom. But what about the other 10 teams? Has anyone ever sat down and analyzed the records and wins of the entire conference and answered the question "Is the SEC the best conference from top to bottom?"

To answer the above question, I took a look at the other 10 teams (Missouri and Texas A&M have been in the SEC since 2012, so their records from 2006 - 2011 are meaningless in this debate). The answer that I got was...well....below average.

So how did I come to this conclusion? I began by looking at a teams total record and looking exclusively at their non conference records. EVERYONE had a winning non conference record, or at least .500. So I began to look deeper at exactly who these teams were playing. After getting rid of the UABs and Citadel's of the schedule I was able to see the...well...below average nature of the SEC.

The SEC is a combined 47-48 against opponents from "Top Conferences (i.e. Big Ten, Big 12, Big East, Pac-10, ACC, and I threw in Boise State as well)". This is not bad at all....BUT...I decided to do something radical....I took away Georgia from the equation...once I did that, the SEC is a paltry 33-43 against top conference schools. In fact only 3 teams (4 if you count Texas A&M from last year) have a winning record against top conferences since 2006 (South Carolina, Georgia, & Kentucky) while 5 (6 including Missouri) have .500 or below records. This isn't a dominating conference. This is a top heavy conference with a bunch of below average teams riding the coat-tails of its upper echelon programs. And there's nothing wrong with that. But let's not sit here and act as if the SEC is a great conference from top to bottom when Arkansas is posting a 1-6 record against top conferences since 2006.

Another stat I want to leave you with is this. Including the 10 average / below average teams in the SEC, when going up against the most overrated conference in the NCAA (Big Ten supposedly), these SEC teams r 7 - 8. That's right, a losing record against Big Ten teams. And these are loses to Michigan State, Penn State, Northwestern, Wisconsin, Ohio State, Iowa, and Michigan. That doesnt spell domination to me...that spells.....below average (average at best).
you probably want to give credit to the person who actually came up with this moot and incomplete syllogism: http://slumz.boxden.com/f16/sec-overrated-analysis-proves-yes-1977215/

[Sisk]

@AP_Top25 (https://twitter.com/AP_Top25) Poll Break Down

SEC 8 teams
PAC 12 4 teams
Big 12 4 teams
ACC 4 teams
BIG10 2 teams
MAC 1
American 1
MWC 1

[DesignatedT]

Aggyfan: ":cry But, but, the SEC is the deepest conference in the nation :cry"

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/9819670/sec-slates-record-eight-teams-ap-top-25

oh the irony :lmao :lmao :lmao

[The Reckoning]

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/9819670/sec-slates-record-eight-teams-ap-top-25

oh the irony :lmao :lmao :lmao

SEC Gets Record 8 in AP's Top 25 By Playing Each Other


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[DesignatedT]

http://cdn2.sbnation.com/assets/3379305/20131012_2311.gif

[The Reckoning]

lol georgia overrated as usual.

they're an overrated program in general. that's what i've been saying.


someone needs to agree with me. the denial reeks in here.

[jeebus]

someone needs to agree with me. the denial reeks in here.
http://24.media.tumblr.com/63eab5e486788a93de4a2c2129d0ece1/tumblr_muua66185V1qzgnzho1_500.gif

[The Reckoning]

:lmao

[Michael Jordan.]

:lol Sisk

[Clipper Nation]

SEC Gets Record 8 in AP's Top 25 By Playing Each Other


fify
Must be nice for the SEC to get a weekly self-fulfilling prophecy that other conferences don't get, tbh.... overrate a bunch of SEC teams, then when they lose, rank the opponents for beating a ranked team but don't punish the losers too badly because they lost to an SEC team....

[The Reckoning]

i think i broke down the rankings in another thread that speaks pretty clearly about SEC favoritism in the AP poll

[Sisk]

:lol Sisk

What?

[Sisk]

i think i broke down the rankings in another thread that speaks pretty clearly about SEC favoritism in the AP poll

A longhorn bitching about favoritism. I've seen it all.

[The Reckoning]

A longhorn bitching about favoritism. I've seen it all.


lol nothing wrong with taking a non-biased approach to aggies' claim that having SEC teams in the AP poll automatically makes it the best conference.

UT should be 50 for all i care. they suck.

[Sisk]

lol nothing wrong with taking a non-biased approach to aggies' claim that having SEC teams in the AP poll automatically makes it the best conference.

UT should be 50 for all i care. they suck.

You're not biased? LOL

[The Reckoning]

You're not biased? LOL


only thing i'm biased for is clearing out the UT coaching staff and athletic department in general, and expand the LHN to the rest of the conference. everything else is irrelevant.

Big XII-II looks like shit, and the ACC and Pac 10+2 look great.

TCU giving LSU a game and Georgia losing to Clemson doesn't sell their rankings.

[Sisk]

only thing i'm biased for is clearing out the UT coaching staff and athletic department in general, and expand the LHN to the rest of the conference. everything else is irrelevant.

:lol ok

[symple19]

Just keep running, Gus

[Sisk]

Just keep running, Gus

We are fucking horrible. Fuck our fucking defense.

[Sisk]

Every guy out there is fucking scared to tackle.

[Pelicans78]

SEC's still the best conference this season, but the Pac-12 and ACC have caught up a bit this season. The reason is teams like Mizzou and A&M step up for other disappointing programs.

[ChumpDumper]

Johnny trolling with the the fake injury of the week.

[DesignatedT]

Just keep running, Gus

Great game symple. You guys deserved the W. Hung out with a lot of tigers afterwards. Good people .

[DesignatedT]

Just keep running, Gus

Great game symple. You guys deserved the W. Hung out with a lot of tigers afterwards. Good people .

[DMX7]

This year, yes.

The SEC is grossly overrated, but I'm not going to say the Big 10 is better.

[Bill_Brasky]

bama is the only legit team in the SEC this year. so hopefully down the line they lose, and FSU/Oregon is for the natty.

[symple19]

Great game symple. You guys deserved the W. Hung out with a lot of tigers afterwards. Good people .

I'm glad you got to go, man. Was an awesome game. Get Johnny better so you guys can beat LSU

[dirk4mvp]

:rofl lsu

[Michael Jordan.]

:lmao SEC

[Clipper Nation]

:lol LSU
:lol Barely beating Furman at the half

[Michael Jordan.]

:lol Aggy

":cry SEC is sooo fuckin deep man :cry"

[BRHornet45]

sons I honestly hope we lose this game.

it has to get worse before it can get better. I'm willing to sit through a couple of shitty seasons if that is what it takes to get rid of Miles.

[BRHornet45]

:lol Aggy

":cry SEC is sooo fuckin deep man :cry"

ignorance is bliss ...


http://i42.tinypic.com/2441awp.jpg

[Clipper Nation]

:lol Epic choke by Mizzou in 2OT
:lol $EC still the "Alabama and everyone else" conference

[Michael Jordan.]

ignorance is bliss ...


http://i42.tinypic.com/2441awp.jpg

Nick Saban 4 times, Cam Newton once, Tim Tebow twice. So fuckin deep :lol

[BRHornet45]

:lol $EC still the "Alabama and everyone else" conference

LMAO this coming from a Boise State fan?

son I honestly cannot name a single team in your conference. hell I don't even know what conference Boise is in. is it a 4A or 5A high school district?

[BRHornet45]

Nick Saban 4 times, Cam Newton once, Tim Tebow twice. So fuckin deep :lol

do you want me to pull out the top-25 rankings each year that are dominated by SEC teams as well?

you're either extraordinarily ignorant or very young.

(and I'm not someone who takes "conference pride" like many do. however the reality is that the SEC has dominated in college football)

[Clipper Nation]

Nick Saban 4 times, Cam Newton once, Tim Tebow twice. So fuckin deep :lol
Actually, it was Tebow once, Chris Leak once :lol

[Hoops Czar]

Alabama, Auburn, Florida, and LSU have all won at least one NCAA championship since 2006. Because of these 4 teams domination, the SEC is now known as the greatest conference from top to bottom. But what about the other 10 teams? Has anyone ever sat down and analyzed the records and wins of the entire conference and answered the question "Is the SEC the best conference from top to bottom?"

To answer the above question, I took a look at the other 10 teams (Missouri and Texas A&M have been in the SEC since 2012, so their records from 2006 - 2011 are meaningless in this debate). The answer that I got was...well....below average.

So how did I come to this conclusion? I began by looking at a teams total record and looking exclusively at their non conference records. EVERYONE had a winning non conference record, or at least .500. So I began to look deeper at exactly who these teams were playing. After getting rid of the UABs and Citadel's of the schedule I was able to see the...well...below average nature of the SEC.

The SEC is a combined 47-48 against opponents from "Top Conferences (i.e. Big Ten, Big 12, Big East, Pac-10, ACC, and I threw in Boise State as well)". This is not bad at all....BUT...I decided to do something radical....I took away Georgia from the equation...once I did that, the SEC is a paltry 33-43 against top conference schools. In fact only 3 teams (4 if you count Texas A&M from last year) have a winning record against top conferences since 2006 (South Carolina, Georgia, & Kentucky) while 5 (6 including Missouri) have .500 or below records. This isn't a dominating conference. This is a top heavy conference with a bunch of below average teams riding the coat-tails of its upper echelon programs. And there's nothing wrong with that. But let's not sit here and act as if the SEC is a great conference from top to bottom when Arkansas is posting a 1-6 record against top conferences since 2006.

Another stat I want to leave you with is this. Including the 10 average / below average teams in the SEC, when going up against the most overrated conference in the NCAA (Big Ten supposedly), these SEC teams r 7 - 8. That's right, a losing record against Big Ten teams. And these are loses to Michigan State, Penn State, Northwestern, Wisconsin, Ohio State, Iowa, and Michigan. That doesnt spell domination to me...that spells.....below average (average at best).

But what's the SEC's bowl record since 2006 compared to the other major conferences? Ya know, when the games actually mean something.

Actually, let me save you the trouble.....


Another year, another SEC national champion. All the handwringing over the league’s 3-3 start to the bowl season was clearly a major waste of time and effort. We noted a week ago that the SEC’s bowl winning percentage over the past 15 years was about 60%, not 100%. As it turns out, this year’s winning percentage was about 67%.

This wasn’t a down year for the SEC in bowl games… it was an up year.

Below are the updated bowl records for all of the major conferences during the 2012 season and over the course of the last 15 years (the BCS era):

Conference All Bowls ’98-’12 BCS Bowls ’98-’12 All Bowls 2012 BCS Bowls 2012 Big West 2-0 (100.0%) 0-0 0-0 0-0 Big East 46-29 (61.3%) 8-7 3-2 1-0 SEC 73-50 (59.3%) 17-8 6-3 1-1 MWC 32-24 (57.1%) 3-1 1-4 0-0 Pac-10/12 41-45 (47.5%) 13-7 4-4 2-0 Big XII 57-63 (47.5%) 9-11 4-5 0-1 ACC 49-55 (47.1%) 3-13 4-2 1-0 WAC 23-28 (45.0%) 2-1 2-0 0-0 C-USA 33-41 (44.5%) 0-0 4-1 0-0 Big Ten 47-59 (44.3%) 12-14 2-5 0-1 Sun Belt 10-13 (43.4%) 0-0 2-2 0-0 MAC 21-28 (42.8%) 0-1 2-5 0-1

Observations:

* The SEC has 16 more bowl wins than any other conference since the 1998 season.

* The SEC has more bowl bids over that span than any other conference.

* Despite its teams often playing opponents that finished higher in their own conference standings, the SEC has the third-best winning percentage among conferences. Only the Big West — defunct for more than a decade — and the Big East have better overall winning percentages since 1998.

* Look at the overall bowl records for the Big Ten and the MAC and you have to wonder just how much talent remains in the American Midwest as people migrate to the South and to the West. No wonder Midwestern teams and leagues are searching for ways to reach the prospects in the Sun Belt region.

* Of the five major conferences remaining today — ACC, Big Ten, Big XII, Pac-12, and SEC — only the SEC has a winning bowl mark over the past 15 seasons.

And finally, the list everyone is talking about this morning:

Season BCS Champion Conference 1998 Tennessee SEC 1999 Florida State ACC 2000 Oklahoma Big XII 2001 Miami, FL Big East 2002 Ohio State Big Ten 2003 LSU SEC 2004 Southern Cal Pac-10/12 2005 Texas Big XII 2006 Florida SEC 2007 LSU SEC 2008 Florida SEC 2009 Alabama SEC 2010 Auburn SEC 2011 Alabama SEC 2012 Alabama SEC

http://www.mrsec.com/2013/01/conference-bowl-records-this-year-and-last-15-years/

[Pelicans78]

Nick Saban 4 times, Cam Newton once, Tim Tebow twice. So fuckin deep :lol

Saban 3 times and Les Miles once.

[Michael Jordan.]

Saban 3 times and Les Miles once.

Saban won once at LSU and 3 times at Bama?

[dirkdirkastan]

This lower level MJ troll is getting his clocked cleaned, tbh.

[Vito Corleone]

SEC people always pick strange years to prove their point. 1998, 2006. I have one for you. 1990 - 2010

Go back to 1990 and look at how many titles were played for an won by Big 8/ Big 12 teams. No too shabby, the twenty year span the Big whatever played for 13 championships in that time. Of course it was dominated by Nebraska but it breaks down like this. Nebraska played for 6 championships, Oklahoma 4, Texas 2, and Colorado 1. During that time Colorado, Nebraska, Oklahoma and Texas all won championships.

Right now the SEC is top dog, but it won't always be that way, just like for a time the Big 12 was the toughest conference in America.

If you compare the best teams to take the field since 1990 none of the top five come from the SEC.

1. 2002 Miami - Best team I've ever seen assembled.
2. 1995 Nebraska - most dominate team assembled
3. 2004 USC - huge assembly of talent with 2 heisman trophy winners
4. 2005 Texas - Vince Young was the most dominate player in that time and he had 28 future NFL players to back him up.
5. 2005 USC - The 2nd half of the two teams that make up what was the greatest game ever played.
6. 1995 Nebraska - Not as great as the 95 team but still a monster of a team.

After those teams, you might see a few of the recent SEC teams, but all of which would get wiped by those top 6 teams.

[Pelicans78]

That 2005 USC team had a terrible defense. They lucked out in several games tht season.

[Pelicans78]

And Oklahoma shouldn't have been in their last 3 championship appearances.