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ace3g
04-16-2013, 03:24 PM
Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA (https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA) 8s (https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/324256760619732993) Tracy McGrady will sign with the San Antonio Spurs for the rest of the season, league sources tell Y! Sports.

Joyrider
04-16-2013, 03:25 PM
WHAT

spurraider21
04-16-2013, 03:27 PM
The new Jax? Couldn't imagine he gets serious minutes, but he can hit shots. I think this is insurance for Manu's hammy

Bruno
04-16-2013, 03:27 PM
WOW

ace3g
04-16-2013, 03:27 PM
Zach Lowe ‏@ZachLowe_NBA (https://twitter.com/ZachLowe_NBA) 32s (https://twitter.com/ZachLowe_NBA/status/324257439664979968) This is the most out-of-nowhere signings in the last week of the season, of playoff-eligible guys outside the NBA, that I can remember.

ace3g
04-16-2013, 03:28 PM
He has the ability to handle the ball (point forward) and has size; but not really known as a defender and needs shots.

DesignatedT
04-16-2013, 03:28 PM
Called this.

I like it. Lets see what he can do. If it doesn't work out then whatever.

ace3g
04-16-2013, 03:28 PM
Zach Lowe ‏@ZachLowe_NBA (https://twitter.com/ZachLowe_NBA) 57s (https://twitter.com/ZachLowe_NBA/status/324257818867818497) One thing T-Mac could still do at a high level in both DET and ATL: Pass. He can also ISO/post smaller guys. But the dude can pass.

justinandimcool
04-16-2013, 03:29 PM
hahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahhahahahahahaha

baseline bum
04-16-2013, 03:29 PM
Congrats Lakers on the 2-7 upset

jjktkk
04-16-2013, 03:30 PM
Solid pickup, considering the circumstances.

hooperflash
04-16-2013, 03:30 PM
t-mac a better mentor to why-why than Dick and SJAX...

spurs10
04-16-2013, 03:31 PM
Spurs might be a good place for him. Being in a good environment might bring out the best in him. He's got skills.

ace3g
04-16-2013, 03:31 PM
better give him a lot of minutes against Minn, to see what he has left in the tank.

spursince#99
04-16-2013, 03:31 PM
I HAD ... absolutely HAD To comment ... I hardly EVER post anymore but I could NOT resist ... My Favorite player in The history of The sport playing on my Favorite Team in my Favorite sport ... LETS GET THIS SHIT

szkorhetz
04-16-2013, 03:31 PM
Thank GOD!!
Welcome T-Mac!!!!

objective
04-16-2013, 03:32 PM
might be useful against Houston.

DesignatedT
04-16-2013, 03:32 PM
He played in 52 games last season ( 16 mpg) and hit .455% from long range (15-33)

justinandimcool
04-16-2013, 03:32 PM
If we're in a 13 point hole with under a minute left, at least we'll still be in the game tbh.

szkorhetz
04-16-2013, 03:33 PM
My Hope is back!

baseline bum
04-16-2013, 03:34 PM
If we're in a 13 point hole with under a minute left, at least we'll still be in the game tbh.

But what if we go up 3-1?

Chris
04-16-2013, 03:34 PM
https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQAlXsxGfcoITm5IClqkaVQnDkF2D78c ZZouNFwj78vpK4o8dJckg

gaKNOW!blee
04-16-2013, 03:34 PM
no one's gonna make a 2nd round comment?

chapnis
04-16-2013, 03:34 PM
I liked prime tmac, one of my favourite NBA players, so nice that the spurs are signing him even if it is just to warm the bench

Spur|n|Austin
04-16-2013, 03:35 PM
Dammnit ACE you're fast, I sped here to post this :lol

I like this signing!

HI-FI
04-16-2013, 03:35 PM
I like it. I was hoping we would do this, guy still has some skills and drive. I'm sure first round jokes are coming but I like this move by Pop and co.

ace3g
04-16-2013, 03:36 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nba--tracy-mcgrady-works-out-for-spurs--to-meet-with-knicks.html

he did work out for the Spurs during training camp so there is at least some familiarity

jeebus
04-16-2013, 03:36 PM
:lol

freetiago
04-16-2013, 03:37 PM
but but he doesnt know the system!

TrainOfThought5
04-16-2013, 03:39 PM
have we really fallen this far?!

TheChillFactor
04-16-2013, 03:39 PM
First round exit CONFIRMED

JingleJangleJingle
04-16-2013, 03:39 PM
oh no we are going to lose in the first round :(

Kuestmaster
04-16-2013, 03:39 PM
this could be the craziest and most low risk-high reward move that the spurs could have done. let's see what he has left.

ace3g
04-16-2013, 03:39 PM
time for TMac to make up for scoring 13 points in 33 secs on us

Blake
04-16-2013, 03:41 PM
Desperate Spurs are desperate.

Is Speedy Claxton available?

DesignatedT
04-16-2013, 03:42 PM
Alex Kennedy ‏@AlexKennedyNBA 2m
The San Antonio Spurs have signed Tracy McGrady. He played in China earlier this season, averaging 25 points, 7.2 rebounds, 5.1 assists.
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Joyrider
04-16-2013, 03:43 PM
How are people saying it's desperate?? Clearly Leonard can't play 48 minutes a game and while Manu is slowly coming back, it'll be great to have a tall forward who can pass and iso from the bench during those long droughts that the bench has been experiencing lately. Especially since it won't cost anything since I doubt he'll be resigned.

FvckMavs
04-16-2013, 03:43 PM
Some highlights that he played in CBA this year:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vU849O16soA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=h6BeXwIUFio#!

Dex
04-16-2013, 03:43 PM
Glad he'll have a whole one game to get up to speed.

Bruno
04-16-2013, 03:44 PM
Spurs badly needed another SF. McGrady might seems like a crazy gamble but it's not like there were tons of high quality SFs available. McGrady isn't really more a reach than Donte Greene, Quention Richardson or Dominic McGuire.

HarlemHeat37
04-16-2013, 03:44 PM
I'm not a fan of McGrady at all, tbh..he doesn't play defense, I'm not convinced that he can effectively play a role in a system, and he has the loser gene..

However, it's not a bad signing..it's a low-risk move, and as Zach Lowe said, he has always been a good passer..part of the problem with the Spurs second unit has been the lack of a creator to utilize their abilities as spot-up shooters..McGrady can't penetrate like he did in his prime, obviously, but he can create opportunities out of the post and he's a much better creator than Neal, De Colo or any 2nd unit guy outside of Ginobili..

Also, while McGrady is a loser, he isn't soft, nor is he scared of the moment, and the Spurs could use a guy that won't be scared..

He can't be any worse than Stephen Jackson, too, tbh..

McGrady will be hungry to prove himself, this could be his last opportunity in the NBA on a top-level team..Pop won't hesitate to give him minutes either, which wouldn't have been the case if the Spurs signed a random scrub like McGuire..

ace3g
04-16-2013, 03:44 PM
Bones ‏@Barryathree (https://twitter.com/Barryathree) 28s (https://twitter.com/Barryathree/status/324261899929796608) T-Mac should not be total shock, shocking yes…have worked him out. Reminds of when I played for SA on 05 team; great résumé, low risk/reward

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA (https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA) 23s (https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/324261922939748353)
McGrady has signed his deal with the Spurs, and his Letter of Clearance has arrived from China, sources say.

spurs10
04-16-2013, 03:46 PM
Glad he'll have a whole one game to get up to speed.
Yeah, the timing is not the best, but it probably is better than nothin'.

said7
04-16-2013, 03:46 PM
Congrats Lakers on the 2-7 upset

Last i checked 4 games wins a series. As in best of seven.

Double-Up
04-16-2013, 03:46 PM
1st round exit, guaranteed.

ace3g
04-16-2013, 03:47 PM
Bones ‏@Barryathree (https://twitter.com/Barryathree) 37s (https://twitter.com/Barryathree/status/324262549187067905) Have to think the Diaw absence is what is being addressed; Tracy’s basketball IQ never a question, pass as a weapon at this stage can be use

HarlemHeat37
04-16-2013, 03:47 PM
Also, good or bad, this is a spark for the Spurs, which they desperately needed..

tmtcsc
04-16-2013, 03:48 PM
He isn't afraid to take a big shot or too shoot. I'm not sure how much he has left but we needed someone to fill that position. For 5 to 8 minutes a game, why not?

jeebus
04-16-2013, 03:48 PM
Spurs badly needed another SF. McGrady might seems like a crazy gamble but it's not like there were tons of high quality SFs available. McGrady isn't really more a reach than Donte Greene, Quention Richardson or Dominic McGuire.
Quentin signed with NY

freetiago
04-16-2013, 03:48 PM
At least the Spurs signed someone with actual talent
tired of signing all the euro rejects or 1 dimensional players whose skills dont really fit the position they play

Sean Cagney
04-16-2013, 03:48 PM
1st round exit, guaranteed.

Not if we play the Rockets!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Wait, you know about first round exits with him :( Good lord they just cursed themselves signing T Mac the second around virgin......

tmtcsc
04-16-2013, 03:49 PM
Yeah..... I think he meant 2 seed vs 7 seed.

ace3g
04-16-2013, 03:49 PM
Spurs.com press release;

http://www.nba.com/spurs/news/130416_spurs_sign_tracy_mcgrady

he will wear #1

Mr Fundamental
04-16-2013, 03:49 PM
Good shooter, good passer.

Fits with Spurs system on paper.

See what will happen on the court..

Monkeyboy14
04-16-2013, 03:49 PM
A lot of people are against this. In 100% for it!! I mean why not? He could be a great role player in the spurs system. Always been T-mac fan, always routing for this guy

HarlemHeat37
04-16-2013, 03:50 PM
If T-Mac can play even nearly as well as Vince Carter has played for the Mavs this year, this would be a big move, tbh..

Dex
04-16-2013, 03:50 PM
Will make things interesting, at the very least...provided he makes the playoff rotation.

I'd still rather take no0b TMac filling the leftover minutes at small forward than watch Danny Green ruin his game trying to do so.

szkorhetz
04-16-2013, 03:51 PM
He will wear number one.
I love this signing. No risk-huge reward.

Bruno
04-16-2013, 03:51 PM
Quentin signed with NY

Yeah, I know and Donte Greene will sign with Memphis.

I was just looking at the other players that were available when Jackson was waived.

Josepatches_
04-16-2013, 03:51 PM
I like it. Nothing to lose and he could help.

TD 21
04-16-2013, 03:52 PM
Bruno and Harlem hit the nail on the head. No matter what you think of McGrady, I'm not sure how you could criticize this. Not when you consider the predicament they were in and the alternatives. He was easily the most talented big SF/small ball PF, with experience, available. No, he can't guard Durant/James (I think he's more Diaw insurance than anything), but if you think they were going to play McGuire, who literally can't shoot threes at all, against either, then you don't know Pop very well.

NFO
04-16-2013, 03:52 PM
About 10 years to late to have a meaningful effect.

spurraider21
04-16-2013, 03:53 PM
Better than havin Bonner as the backup 3, and is also a cheap insurance policy for Manu

superjames1992
04-16-2013, 03:54 PM
R.C. BUFORD COMES THROUGH AGAIN. THE MAN IS A GOD. WE HAVE THE BEST FRONT OFFICE IN THE NBA, BAR NONE.

:toast

024
04-16-2013, 03:54 PM
first round exit guaranteed now...

rjv
04-16-2013, 03:54 PM
:bang

Spur|n|Austin
04-16-2013, 03:54 PM
1st round exit, guaranteed.

Care to make a wager on that remark?

ElNono
04-16-2013, 03:54 PM
I mean, OK... but, one game before the playoffs?

szkorhetz
04-16-2013, 03:55 PM
Yeah, I know and Donte Greene will sign with Memphis.

I was just looking at the other players that were available when Jackson was waived.
He was the best available, TBH.

freetiago
04-16-2013, 03:55 PM
does he play in Minnesota tomorrow

Joyrider
04-16-2013, 03:55 PM
Past their prime, but what could have happened had Duncan signed with the Magic so many years ago.

polandprzem
04-16-2013, 03:58 PM
Tracy still can score, and Pop will find the way to free him up.
Good signing just b4 the playoffs. He can save us one game

sook
04-16-2013, 03:58 PM
I know everybody is scoffing right now, but I will be quoting this when he really helps the spurs out. The pro with Tmac is his playmaking ability and getting others great shots, in a system like the spurs he is perfect. When you have Ginobili playing like crap and not doing anything like the beginning of this season T-Mac is actually an upgrade.

Steal by the spurs, even though the "First round curse" haunts him. I do not like this at all if we have to play you guys.

ace3g
04-16-2013, 03:58 PM
Chris Broussard ‏@Chris_Broussard (https://twitter.com/Chris_Broussard) 1m (https://twitter.com/Chris_Broussard/status/324265255440101378) T-Mac confirms Yahoo! report that he will join SA via text: "it's official," he said.

Chris Broussard ‏@Chris_Broussard (https://twitter.com/Chris_Broussard) 12s (https://twitter.com/Chris_Broussard/status/324265490539233281)
T-Mac told me, "I'm just glad to be a part of this environment," T-Mac said via text. "Something I never experienced while being my best."

boutons_deux
04-16-2013, 03:59 PM
what kind of shape is he in?

can he even run 2 horses? :)

FkLA
04-16-2013, 04:00 PM
Why do people assume hes a loser? His Magic were an 8th seed that one year they gave up that 3-1 lead to Detroit, and they only had that lead because of how amazing Tmac was. He was a dumbass for claiming victory before the series was over but thats a completely different subject. He never failed to produce in the playoffs, his teams just werent very good.

Not that that matters since hes a different player now. But its a solid signing, Leonard cant play all game and hes a much better option at SF than Green/Manu tbh.

Man In Black
04-16-2013, 04:00 PM
I like what Bones Barry had to say.


Bones ‏@Barryathree 28s T-Mac should not be total shock, shocking yes…have worked him out. Reminds of when I played for SA on 05 team; great résumé, low risk/reward

While he doesn't fit the mold of a typical Spurs defender, he exceeds the mold of a multi-purpose swingman. In his prime, he did things that Danny Green can't even fathom to try. I don't think he'll play alot, but like Gary Neal, an opposing team still has to respect his presence on the court. If it opens up things in the middle for our bigs and especially, for TP, then this is a WIN for RC!

superjames1992
04-16-2013, 04:00 PM
What has T-Mac been doing lately, tbh? I hope he's in shape, but then again he'll probably only play <10 minutes per game, so it may not matter much.

Hell, knowing Pop he might not play at all until he learns the system. :lol

EDIT: Sounds like he played heavy minutes in China, actually. Well, that's good.

Monkeyboy14
04-16-2013, 04:00 PM
Is he gonna play tomorrow? I would feel a lot better having atleast 1 game under his belt before the playoffs...

ace3g
04-16-2013, 04:00 PM
Chris Broussard ‏@Chris_Broussard (https://twitter.com/Chris_Broussard) 1m (https://twitter.com/Chris_Broussard/status/324265788846510080) I asked T-Mac how much he can realistically contribute. He said "I guess that's the unknown." He avg 25p, 7r, 5a in China this year.

hater
04-16-2013, 04:01 PM
:lmao someone did call this early and I did think about it "CIA Pop would be a fucking genius if this would happen"

holy shit, it became a reality

CIA Pop :wow :wow :wow

From what I heard TMac is in shape and been balling in China. So this could be at least an improvement over Jax/Nobody

szkorhetz
04-16-2013, 04:01 PM
@Chris_Broussard (https://twitter.com/Chris_Broussard) 2m (https://twitter.com/Chris_Broussard/status/324265490539233281) T-Mac told me, "I'm just glad to be a part of this environment," T-Mac said via text. "Something I never experienced while being my best."

Budkin
04-16-2013, 04:02 PM
Wow... that's nuts! Everyone was joking about it and it came true! :lmao

Budkin
04-16-2013, 04:02 PM
:lmao someone did call this early and I did think about it "CIA Pop would be a fucking genius if this would happen"

holy shit, it became a reality

CIA Pop :wow :wow :wow

I don't even know how to wrap my head around it, so odd.

Double-Up
04-16-2013, 04:02 PM
Not if we play the Rockets!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Wait, you know about first round exits with him :( Good lord they just cursed themselves signing T Mac the second around virgin......

I'm speaking from experience, son. :lol

Sean Cagney
04-16-2013, 04:03 PM
I mean, OK... but, one game before the playoffs?
Spurs man, they make no sense at all sometimes.

jestersmash
04-16-2013, 04:03 PM
So how many former All Stars past their prime have the spurs signed over the last decade or so?

Tmac, Finley, McDyess, ?

I agree with people saying this is a low risk signing. Tmac was desperate to get back into the NBA. Spurs were desperate for a competent 2/3 for Manu/Diaw/bad second unit play-making insurance.

I'm not expecting much from him but you can't possibly think our chances have decreased with this signing, unless the people crying "1st round exit" thought so before we signed tmac. There's no obligation to play him. At worst, we've paid peanuts to keep a bench-warming Tmac around for the playoffs, and our chances are no different than if we hadn't signed him.

jestersmash
04-16-2013, 04:04 PM
So how many former All Stars past their prime have the spurs signed over the last decade or so?

Tmac, Finley, McDyess, ?

I agree with people saying this is a low risk signing. Tmac was desperate to get back into the NBA. Spurs were desperate for a competent 2/3 for Manu/Diaw/bad second unit play-making insurance.

I'm not expecting much from him but you can't possibly think our chances have decreased with this signing, unless the people crying "1st round exit" thought so before we signed tmac. There's no obligation to play him. At worst, we've paid peanuts to keep a bench-warming Tmac around for the playoffs, and our chances are no different than if we hadn't signed him.

Budkin
04-16-2013, 04:05 PM
first round exit guaranteed now...

:lol

JingleJangleJingle
04-16-2013, 04:06 PM
what kind of shape is he in?

can he even run 2 horses? :)

he has been playing in China all year...he can't be that out of shape tbh especially since he probably won't be asked to play 20 minutes.

rjv
04-16-2013, 04:07 PM
depth wise, it makes sense. but does he get into the rotation only if manu gets hurt, diaw stays hurt and another player fails ? or does he get into the rotation regardless ?

Pasta Batman
04-16-2013, 04:07 PM
what kind of shape is he in?

can he even run 2 horses? :)

He's been putting up good numbers in China.

Sean Cagney
04-16-2013, 04:08 PM
I mean, OK... but, one game before the playoffs?
Spurs man, they make no sense at all sometimes.

Pasta Batman
04-16-2013, 04:09 PM
Spurs man, they make no sense at all sometimes.

It's possible it's taken this long to get his papers/clearance.

Pasta Batman
04-16-2013, 04:09 PM
depth wise, it makes sense. but does he get into the rotation only if manu gets hurt, diaw stays hurt and another player fails ? or does he get into the rotation regardless ?

'Probably controlled by the matchups.

024
04-16-2013, 04:10 PM
anyone have a recently picture of him? he already started to look kind of fat on the hawks.

Joyrider
04-16-2013, 04:11 PM
depth wise, it makes sense. but does he get into the rotation only if manu gets hurt, diaw stays hurt and another player fails ? or does he get into the rotation regardless ?

There is NO backup SF on the rooster and they aren't gonna run Manu into the ground playing against Durant, Lebron (maybe), so I think he'll get 10-15 minutes a game. I think Blair doesn't get one minute in the playoffs as McGrady will get backup PF minutes in the first round and back to SF in the second.

Budkin
04-16-2013, 04:11 PM
Last i checked 4 games wins a series. As in best of seven.

He meant 7 seed beating 2 seed.

ace3g
04-16-2013, 04:11 PM
Watching some of his highlights from China earlier in the year, he still has some hops, won't need that in SA, but good to know if he does get to the basket he can finish strong.

Pasta Batman
04-16-2013, 04:12 PM
he has been playing in China all year...he can't be that out of shape tbh especially since he probably won't be asked to play 20 minutes.

From ptr:


J. Gomez (Edg5) (http://www.sbnation.com/users/J.%20Gomez%20(Edg5)): FWIW, he was killing it in China, scoring 25 points a game, pulling down 7.2 boards and dishing out 5.1 assists.
and

Juan Cantu (http://www.sbnation.com/users/Juan%20Cantu): Even though it’s against lesser competition, those are pretty good numbers. Wilson Chandler averaged 26.6 ppg, 11.6 rpg and 2.3 apg when he played in China, so I think we can expect a decent player in T-Mac. More of a shooter and passer than a rebounder, but that’s exactly what we need. Size on the wings!

Budkin
04-16-2013, 04:13 PM
Past their prime, but what could have happened had Duncan signed with the Magic so many years ago.

Quick, trade for Grant Hill!

ace3g
04-16-2013, 04:13 PM
Tracy McGrady ‏@Real_T_Mac (https://twitter.com/Real_T_Mac) 23s (https://twitter.com/Real_T_Mac/status/324269083522658306) I appreciate all the love. Glad to be a part of #SpursNation (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23SpursNation&src=hash). #spurs (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23spurs&src=hash)

sook
04-16-2013, 04:13 PM
spurs just got a whole lot deadlier....and most teams don't even realize it.

rjv
04-16-2013, 04:13 PM
There is NO backup SF on the rooster and they aren't gonna run Manu into the ground playing against Durant, Lebron (maybe), so I think he'll get 10-15 minutes a game. I think Blair doesn't get one minute in the playoffs as McGrady will get backup PF minutes in the first round and back to SF in the second.

well it makes more sense than playing matty b at the 3

xtremesteven33
04-16-2013, 04:13 PM
Obviously he wont have the same burst as he used to but the Spurs have never had a pass first small forward in the Duncan era. Cant wait to see what he can do

Ditty
04-16-2013, 04:14 PM
Defentely not making it out of the 1st round.

MarHill
04-16-2013, 04:16 PM
The 33-year-old McGrady will be eligible to play for the Spurs during the playoffs because he was not on an NBA roster as of March 1. He said he will not play in San Antonio's regular-season finale on Wednesday night against Minnesota.

That's the key in this signing. So going after MacGuire, Richardson, or the SFs on the market would have not made sense for 1 regular season game.

I must admit I'm surprised by the signing. But he's at least he can still play and is not afraid of the big moment.

:flag:

cd98
04-16-2013, 04:18 PM
If we get a 3-1 lead in the first round, don't let the microphone anywhere near McGrady. He had one of the biggest playoff jinxes of all time.

HarlemHeat37
04-16-2013, 04:18 PM
Ya, there's literally no downside to this signing, tbh..

He isn't going to steal minutes from more deserving players, he has never been known as a cancer, he isn't going to steal shots from more deserving player, he isn't hurting cap space, etc..

If he contributes, great, add another success to RC and Pop's resumes..if he doesn't, it was still worth a shot..

ace3g
04-16-2013, 04:20 PM
kind of sucks he won't play vs Minn.

dwayne shintzius
04-16-2013, 04:20 PM
he can join the glen robinson club of 2005, and hitch a ride with us for a championship.

Ellsworth
04-16-2013, 04:21 PM
Watching some of his highlights from China earlier in the year, he still has some hops, won't need that in SA, but good to know if he does get to the basket he can finish strong.

Once again, we head into the Playoffs with players dealing with injuries (seems like every damn season), having TMAC as a backup is better than nothing... hope he can provide some needed help on the court when it matters :toast

szkorhetz
04-16-2013, 04:22 PM
@drew_48moh (https://twitter.com/drew_48moh) 1m (https://twitter.com/drew_48moh/status/324270477713485824) SPURS SIGN TRACY MCGRADY YOLOING THE HELL OUT OF THE REST OF THE NBA

Brunodf
04-16-2013, 04:23 PM
NNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Tmac is cursed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
834973 1st rounds exit in his career

baseline bum
04-16-2013, 04:25 PM
I know everybody is scoffing right now, but I will be quoting this when he really helps the spurs out. The pro with Tmac is his playmaking ability and getting others great shots, in a system like the spurs he is perfect. When you have Ginobili playing like crap and not doing anything like the beginning of this season T-Mac is actually an upgrade.

Steal by the spurs, even though the "First round curse" haunts him. I do not like this at all if we have to play you guys.

I know I have been clowning McGrady a bit in this thread, but I agree that it's a nice signing. I mean the Spurs desperately need someone to fill the hole the Jackson waiving created, and there aren't too many NBA quality players out there right now that would be playoff eligible.

spurraider21
04-16-2013, 04:26 PM
He's 6'8, is a good passer, and can hit outside shots. Honestly, sure, why the hell not

rjv
04-16-2013, 04:26 PM
mccarney summed it up nicely in his piece for mysa.com:


No longer an explosive scorer, McGrady would seem to offer adequate rebounding, playmaking and shooting at this advanced stage. In those respects he’s not significantly different from Jackson, who had been averaging 6.2 points on 37.3 percent shooting before the Spurs unexpectedly released him last week.
McGrady’s primary job will be backing up small forward Kawhi Leonard, whom Gregg Popovich has pegged for up to 40 minutes when the playoffs begin this weekend.

TD 21
04-16-2013, 04:26 PM
By the way, looking at his stats from last season, he's still a clear cut better player than Jackson (granted, an engaged Jackson get's the edge defensively) and a legit back end rotation player. So don't think he wasn't signed in the off season because he's not good enough anymore.

Also, having watched some of his highlights from China, as Ace said, he's still got a reasonable amount of athleticism (I know it's not saying much, but still better than Jackson/Diaw). That being said, the best that can be hoped for defensively is still probably below average, as opposed to terrible.

crc21209
04-16-2013, 04:26 PM
kind of sucks he won't play vs Minn.

Who said he wont? My brother was just watching the news and said he'll be eligible to play tomorrow...

Seventyniner
04-16-2013, 04:27 PM
That's one hell of a middle finger to give Jax. Pop must be convinced that T-Mac is willing to be a 9th man.

crc21209
04-16-2013, 04:27 PM
kind of sucks he won't play vs Minn.

Who said he wont? My brother was just watching the news and said he'll be eligible to play tomorrow...

Aiko9245
04-16-2013, 04:27 PM
Five days ago T-Mac attended the IND/CAVS game and said he was back in the states "on business."
Seems like he's ready to play.

http://www.nba.com/pacers/video/2013/04/09/TMACflv-2439568

Ellsworth
04-16-2013, 04:27 PM
NNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Tmac is cursed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
834973 1st rounds exit in his career

Let's pray the curse will reflect upon the opponents the Spurs play along the way... how's that for optimism :lol

TJastal
04-16-2013, 04:27 PM
There is NO backup SF on the rooster and they aren't gonna run Manu into the ground playing against Durant, Lebron (maybe), so I think he'll get 10-15 minutes a game. I think Blair doesn't get one minute in the playoffs as McGrady will get backup PF minutes in the first round and back to SF in the second.

If this happens spurs are defenitely fishing after the 1st round. Spurs are better served playing small at the 3 than the 4... this signing just confirms Pop's head is completely up his own arse.

quentin_compson
04-16-2013, 04:29 PM
Who said he wont? My brother was just watching the news and said he'll be eligible to play tomorrow...

TMac himself said that, according to ESPN.

Well, nice signing under the circumstances. It's definitely a low-risk thing, if it works out, he'll be providing a bit of scoring and passing from the bench, if it doesn't, well then he won't playing much at all.

ohmwrecker
04-16-2013, 04:30 PM
Defentely not making it out of the 1st round.

Maybe, maybe not, but signing McGrady doesn't change that outcome one iota.

Fpoonsie
04-16-2013, 04:30 PM
Who said he wont? My brother was just watching the news and said he'll be eligible to play tomorrow...


The 33-year-old McGrady will be eligible to play for the Spurs during the playoffs because he was not on an NBA roster as of March 1. He said he will not play in San Antonio's regular-season finale on Wednesday night against Minnesota.

That's the key in this signing. So going after MacGuire, Richardson, or the SFs on the market would have not made sense for 1 regular season game.

I must admit I'm surprised by the signing. But he's at least he can still play and is not afraid of the big moment.

:flag:

ace3g
04-16-2013, 04:30 PM
Who said he wont? My brother was just watching the news and said he'll be eligible to play tomorrow...


"It's official," McGrady told ESPN.com in a text message Tuesday afternoon.
The 33-year-old McGrady will be eligible to play for the Spurs during the playoffs because he was not on an NBA roster as of March 1. He said he will not play in San Antonio's regular-season finale on Wednesday night against Minnesota.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9179561/tracy-mcgrady-san-antonio-spurs-reach-deal

Fpoonsie
04-16-2013, 04:31 PM
Rofl. ace3g slow as shit, per tha usual.

ThaBigFundamental21
04-16-2013, 04:32 PM
Not a great signing, not bad. We needed a forward, we got one. He is healthy and can give 8-10 minutes a game. He always was a solid passer, something we desperately need. If he ever gets hot....BONUS.

I. Hustle
04-16-2013, 04:33 PM
Bullshit! I just ran out and got tix to the last game hoping he was going to suit up.

I. Hustle
04-16-2013, 04:34 PM
Who said he wont? My brother was just watching the news and said he'll be eligible to play tomorrow...

bus driver
04-16-2013, 04:34 PM
am i the only one who said "oh god no" ?

TJastal
04-16-2013, 04:36 PM
By the way, looking at his stats from last season, he's still a clear cut better player than Jackson (granted, an engaged Jackson get's the edge defensively) and a legit back end rotation player. So don't think he wasn't signed in the off season because he's not good enough anymore.

Also, having watched some of his highlights from China, as Ace said, he's still got a reasonable amount of athleticism (I know it's not saying much, but still better than Jackson/Diaw). That being said, the best that can be hoped for defensively is still probably below average, as opposed to terrible.
At the very least Tmac should help erase the painful memories of small ball with Richard Jefferson.

TJastal
04-16-2013, 04:36 PM
By the way, looking at his stats from last season, he's still a clear cut better player than Jackson (granted, an engaged Jackson get's the edge defensively) and a legit back end rotation player. So don't think he wasn't signed in the off season because he's not good enough anymore.

Also, having watched some of his highlights from China, as Ace said, he's still got a reasonable amount of athleticism (I know it's not saying much, but still better than Jackson/Diaw). That being said, the best that can be hoped for defensively is still probably below average, as opposed to terrible.
At the very least Tmac should help erase the painful memories of small ball with Richard Jefferson.

Trill Clinton
04-16-2013, 04:36 PM
yassssss!!! http://i45.tinypic.com/4r26fs.jpg

TJastal
04-16-2013, 04:38 PM
Maybe, maybe not, but signing McGrady doesn't change that outcome one iota.

If Pop's plan is to use him as a small balls pf then yes it does.

jeebus
04-16-2013, 04:39 PM
Who said he wont? My brother was just watching the news and said he'll be eligible to play tomorrow...

DapDaGenius
04-16-2013, 04:39 PM
YEAH!!!

TheGoldStandard
04-16-2013, 04:40 PM
Is it 2003? Still a good signing for a guy who can create his own shot.

ace3g
04-16-2013, 04:41 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BAvRgF8CYAAJVZf.jpg:large

http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net/photos/large/733457688.jpg

Floyd Pacquiao
04-16-2013, 04:41 PM
If he can hit corner 3s play decent defense and not fuk up in the 4-8 min a game he's gonna play than I see nothing wrong with this signing.

ohmwrecker
04-16-2013, 04:44 PM
If Pop's plan is to use him as a small balls pf then yes it does.

McGrady isn't replacing Jack's role completely. Pop probably realizes they are two different people. If not, someone will
probably tell him.

Arcadian
04-16-2013, 04:45 PM
Am I really the first person to post this?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-8FksMVAdU

TheGoldStandard
04-16-2013, 04:45 PM
McGrady still has flashes where he can cut to the basket too so that's a plus aside from the outside game. Plus he can create his own shot, not shabby

ace3g
04-16-2013, 04:46 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BIAIHaPCAAAItwS.jpg:large

Mugen
04-16-2013, 04:47 PM
Malik Hairston is rolling over in his grave tbh.

Dro210
04-16-2013, 04:47 PM
@drew_48moh (https://twitter.com/drew_48moh) 1m (https://twitter.com/drew_48moh/status/324270477713485824) SPURS SIGN TRACY MCGRADY YOLOING THE HELL OUT OF THE REST OF THE NBA

:lol:lol:lol

I'm like a little kid right now, haha.... I love this signing for everything mentioned. Nothing to lose, fills the roles we need, has something to prove... and I think just as important as anything possibly... This city, and Spurs fans, are instantly excited again after being down for the last month. :flag:

Tracy McGrady
04-16-2013, 04:48 PM
Hello

rascal
04-16-2013, 04:49 PM
A desperate move from a desperate franchise, nothing more.

bklynspursfan
04-16-2013, 04:49 PM
Malik Hairston is rolling over in his grave tbh.

DA too-

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_UzK0Ly0inkY/TUO4jx6BxsI/AAAAAAAAAJM/UDA_2-4ye6U/s1600/air-jordan-xi-11-low-concord-derek-anderson-player-exclusive-1.jpg

DynastySpurs210
04-16-2013, 04:50 PM
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_0_IbsH3Iw48/TOYWS09bSCI/AAAAAAAADNM/8L9mtBrVBGw/s1600/Tracy-McGrady-Widescreen-Wallpaper.jpg

Floyd Pacquiao
04-16-2013, 04:51 PM
he can't be any worse than jack was this season tbh

TheGoldStandard
04-16-2013, 04:53 PM
Can't be worse than Matt Bonner at the 3

CitizenDwayne
04-16-2013, 04:54 PM
he can't be any worse than jack was this season tbh

loveforthegame
04-16-2013, 04:54 PM
Damn. Spurs as secretive as ever.

Like the signing. A veteran who still has some game left. Provides some depth and can play some small ball 4 if necessary. Size and passing skills.

:tu

hater
04-16-2013, 04:54 PM
A desperate move from a desperate franchise, nothing more.

I agree with this. Spurs are desperate, but at the same time, I like this. They want to get out of the 1st round, otherwise they would have signed a Toros for insurance and stayed put.

This move just shows they are desperate, but they won't go down fighting :tu :tu :tu

Imagine the tv ratings Spurs game 1 this weekend will have :lmao

ESPN is already blowing up with this news

Splits
04-16-2013, 04:55 PM
If Pop's plan is to use him as a small balls pf then yes it does.

So stupid. We have 1 SF and 5 guys who can play the 4 and your concern is T-Mac getting minutes at PF? Fucking idiot.

Darius Bieber
04-16-2013, 04:56 PM
Will he be ready and suit up against the T-Wolves tomorrow? I'm sure if he does, all the unsuspecting Spurs fans in the arena will be like WTF?

hater
04-16-2013, 04:56 PM
well another thing, is that probably Manu is in bad shape, so they were forced to do this :( :( (hope not)

hater
04-16-2013, 04:57 PM
Will he be ready and suit up against the T-Wolves tomorrow? I'm sure if he does, all the unsuspecting Spurs fans in the arena will be like WTF?

no he won't. But he'll probably be on the bench and maybe even shootaround

Strategic
04-16-2013, 04:57 PM
A new star in the sky and peeps crying because it may be a black hole. Yo, STFU, Spurs are back!!!!!!!!!:hat

timvp
04-16-2013, 04:57 PM
:lmao


Glenn Robinson redux.





Hell, it worked in 2005, fwiw.

sook
04-16-2013, 04:58 PM
Am I really the first person to post this?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-8FksMVAdU

what ever happened to Devin Brown. I can't imagine the anal punishment he got from Pop after that.

Trill Clinton
04-16-2013, 04:58 PM
Am I really the first person to post this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-8FksMVAdU http://gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs1/3211604_o.gif

TJastal
04-16-2013, 04:58 PM
anyone have a recently picture of him? he already started to look kind of fat on the hawks.

All the better for him to fill play power forward.

Budkin
04-16-2013, 04:59 PM
:lmao


Glenn Robinson redux.





Hell, it worked in 2005, fwiw.

Honestly what do you think of the signing? Think he has anything left or can help us in any way?

timtonymanu
04-16-2013, 05:00 PM
Fuck! That 1st round curse he brings is just too scary to look at considering the Spurs already looked like a 1st round exit without him :lol

As long as he doesn't hurt the team more than he helps

MarHill
04-16-2013, 05:00 PM
A desperate move from a desperate franchise, nothing more.

Disagree on both counts.

A franchise that has won 4 championships isn't a desperate franchise. A desperate franchise is the Dallas Mavs doing everything they can to finally win a ring in 2011 and don't resign Chandler and others to try to repeat. That's desperate.

The move isn't desperate either. There was a need and he was the best option in order to have a player for the playoffs. It's actually a low risk/high reward move. And that's isn't desperate to me. :toast

tim_duncan_fan
04-16-2013, 05:01 PM
Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah ahahaha!

If I wasn't a Spurs fan I'd be trolling the shit out us right now. Good god, we just signed one of the greatest losers in NBA history!

What is with the FO's/Pop's obsession with signing old guys that have torched us in the past?

hater
04-16-2013, 05:01 PM
what ever happened to Devin Brown. I can't imagine the anal punishment he got from Pop after that.

dude just got arrested drunk driving and looks fat as fuck.

EricB
04-16-2013, 05:01 PM
:lmao


Glenn Robinson redux.





Hell, it worked in 2005, fwiw.



Except Mcgrady can pass. Good rebounder, good scorer, played well off the bench for Atlanta last year.

temujin
04-16-2013, 05:02 PM
Looked done 3 years ago.
Never bothered play any noticeable defense in his best years.
Never won a single PO series.
Couldn't get a contract in a decent league all year.

Called to fit in a "complicated system" (citation).

Possibly the most un-Spurs-like signining of the Popovich era.
To me, it just shows how desperate Popovich is, and how bad the overall Spurs situation has gotten, from multiple point of views.

hater
04-16-2013, 05:04 PM
Looked done 3 years ago.
Never bothered play any noticeable defense in his best years.
Never won a single PO series.
Couldn't get a contract in a decent league all year.

Called to fit in a "complicated system" (citation).

Possibly the most un-Spurs-like signining of the Popovich era.
To me, it just shows how desperate Popovich is, and how bad the overall Spurs situation has gotten, from multiple point of views.

yup. and Manu must look real bad and might not even come back.

still, don't blame Spurs for trying desperate moves

hater
04-16-2013, 05:04 PM
Looked done 3 years ago.
Never bothered play any noticeable defense in his best years.
Never won a single PO series.
Couldn't get a contract in a decent league all year.

Called to fit in a "complicated system" (citation).

Possibly the most un-Spurs-like signining of the Popovich era.
To me, it just shows how desperate Popovich is, and how bad the overall Spurs situation has gotten, from multiple point of views.

yup. and Manu must look real bad and might not even come back.

still, don't blame Spurs for trying desperate moves

TJastal
04-16-2013, 05:04 PM
So stupid. We have 1 SF and 5 guys who can play the 4 and your concern is T-Mac getting minutes at PF? Fucking idiot.

Did you forget who is coaching the spurs? 2 of those guys suck ass, 1 is injured and the other guy Pop won't use. Fucking idiot.

EricB
04-16-2013, 05:05 PM
Looked done 3 years ago.
Never bothered play any noticeable defense in his best years.
Never won a single PO series.
Couldn't get a contract in a decent league all year.

Called to fit in a "complicated system" (citation).

Possibly the most un-Spurs-like signining of the Popovich era.
To me, it just shows how desperate Popovich is, and how bad the overall Spurs situation has gotten, from multiple point of views.


Couldn't be more wrong.

EricB
04-16-2013, 05:06 PM
Did you forget who is coaching the spurs? 2 of those guys suck ass, 1 is injured and the other guy Pop won't use. Fucking idiot.


Whos the PF he won't use?

TJastal
04-16-2013, 05:08 PM
Damn. Spurs as secretive as ever.

Like the signing. A veteran who still has some game left. Provides some depth and can play some small ball 4 if necessary. Size and passing skills.

:tu

Oh I'm sure Pop will find it "necessary"....

kobyz
04-16-2013, 05:08 PM
we should have signed him in the off season like i was offering at that time!!

MarHill
04-16-2013, 05:08 PM
Looked done 3 years ago.
Never bothered play any noticeable defense in his best years.
Never won a single PO series.
Couldn't get a contract in a decent league all year.

Called to fit in a "complicated system" (citation).

Possibly the most un-Spurs-like signining of the Popovich era.
To me, it just shows how desperate Popovich is, and how bad the overall Spurs situation has gotten, from multiple point of views.


Again, I completely disagree.

If Pop was deseperate, he would have keep Stephen Jackson and dealt with his issues even if was a detriment to the younger players.

He filled a need in the best possible situation and to get a veteran who can play 10-15 minutes a game to spell Kawhi is not desperate.

dunkman
04-16-2013, 05:10 PM
Time will soon tell if that was smart signing.

baseline bum
04-16-2013, 05:11 PM
what ever happened to Devin Brown. I can't imagine the anal punishment he got from Pop after that.

He got a ring. And then a DUI.

TJastal
04-16-2013, 05:11 PM
Whos the PF he won't use?

Baynes. Duh. He can fill either PF or C depending on matchups.

TMTTRIO
04-16-2013, 05:12 PM
I'm not sure I like it but I guess it doesn't hurt as long as he can accept his role. There have been times that he hasn't been happy with his role and made a fuss about it. Also we already have one very old injury prone player on our team. Do we really need another known "injury prone" player?

ChumpDumper
04-16-2013, 05:14 PM
Whos the PF he won't use?The center.

TJastal
04-16-2013, 05:15 PM
Love how we can't use Baynes at all because 50+ games wasn't enough to teach him the spurs system despite having a spurs assistant coach on his Australian national team... yet most here have penciled in McGrady for 15 minutes a game already.

:lol

Robz4000
04-16-2013, 05:15 PM
Solid move tbh, considering the circumstances. Harlem and Bruno mentioned any points I'd bring up.

TJastal
04-16-2013, 05:16 PM
The center.

Baynes can fill in at power forward depending on matchups. Idiot.

szkorhetz
04-16-2013, 05:16 PM
I'm not sure I like it but I guess it doesn't hurt as long as he can accept his role. There have been times that he hasn't been happy with his role and made a fuss about it. Also we already have one very old injury prone player on our team. Do we really need another known "injury prone" player?
Man, we don't have to much choices. T-Mac, D-League or nobody. So I guess T-Mac is easily better than the other options..

ChumpDumper
04-16-2013, 05:17 PM
Love how we can't use Baynes at all because 50+ games wasn't enough to teach him the spurs system despite having a spurs assistant coach on his Australian national team... yet most here have penciled in McGrady for 15 minutes a game already.

:lol8, and we all know you think 15 seasons in the NBA counts for nothing and you don't watch the games anyway, so why bother trying to explain anything to you?

wildbill2u
04-16-2013, 05:17 PM
The FO found the one guy that could be added to the roster this year at this late date. T-Mac hasn't been on any NBA roster this year. He's been playing in China and averaged 25 pts a game. So he's in some kind of shape, not just a layabout, and still has some shooting left in him.

I tell you this. I watched him in Houston and he's a good passer and a better defender than most give him credit for.All in all, this is another interesting move by the Spurs team of Pop and the FO and typically off the wall and unexpected by most observers. :toast

ChumpDumper
04-16-2013, 05:18 PM
Baynes can fill in at power forward depending on matchups. Idiot.I guess if they have a PF as slow as he is, sure.

timvp
04-16-2013, 05:19 PM
Seriously, though, I like this signing as much as possible for signing someone who won't play in the regular season (and probably won't play in the playoffs, IMO). If the objective was to sign a small forward that provides high upside in the unfortunate case Leonard goes down, you can't do better than TMac at this point. He still has a high upside despite his knee problems.

Speaking of his knee problems, his issue seems to be endurance. For a game or two or three, he has played well. But it's the grind of the 82-game season his knees just can't handle. Considering this is a playoff-only signing, his knees are much less of an issue.

But I really, really doubt he gets a minute in the playoffs unless something goes wrong. At the very best, he's the fourth string SF behind Leonard, Green and Ginobili. He'll most likely sit in a suit on the sidelines.

This signing would have been a lot more meaningful if it occurred even a week ago. Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii-i-i-i-ii-i-iii, if he would have been able to play last night, that would have made a big difference in his outlook.

The bottomline is it's a surprising/exciting move by the Spurs but it won't amount to anything.

MarHill
04-16-2013, 05:19 PM
Love how we can't use Baynes at all because 50+ games wasn't enough to teach him the spurs system despite having a spurs assistant coach on his Australian national team... yet most here have penciled in McGrady for 15 minutes a game already.

:lol

Well, the frontcourt has Duncan, Splitter, Diaw, Blair, & Bonner. So it was going to be hard for Baynes to get minutes.

T-Mac won't have the issue behind Leonard and Green will probably play some SF. He may not get 15 minutes a game.....but he will get some playing time because he can still pass, hit a 3, and be a playmaker.

Chomag
04-16-2013, 05:20 PM
I guess Spurs felt they needed a 1'st round exit expert. Going out with style yo!!! J/K at least I hope. I like this pick up honestly, I hope it all works out well for both parties. Will he even get PT though, or is it " Not fair to the team>?

Dro210
04-16-2013, 05:21 PM
You have to be kind of an idiot, or just a completely negative person to think there's absolutely anything bad about this signing..... and for fuck sake, Baynes doesn't play because he doesn't know how to play in the NBA yet. Isn't that obvious??

ChumpDumper
04-16-2013, 05:21 PM
I guess CIA had this in the works during the Jack drama. Didn't Jack just clear waivers?

Budkin
04-16-2013, 05:22 PM
I guess Spurs felt they needed a 1'st round exit expert. Going out with style yo!!! J/K at least I hope. I like this pick up honestly, I hope it all works out well for both parties. Will he even get PT though, or is it " Not fair to the team>?

"Not fair" unless everyone else goes down with injuries.

MarHill
04-16-2013, 05:22 PM
Timvp,

I disagree. I think he will see some minutes in the playoffs. I can see a scenario in the 2nd unit in a 5 to 8 minutes section of the game. And if he's playing well....his minutes can be extended.

I don't there will be huge minutes....but in the right situation in a series, he will play.

rascal
04-16-2013, 05:23 PM
Disagree on both counts.

A franchise that has won 4 championships isn't a desperate franchise. A desperate franchise is the Dallas Mavs doing everything they can to finally win a ring in 2011 and don't resign Chandler and others to try to repeat. That's desperate.

The move isn't desperate either. There was a need and he was the best option in order to have a player for the playoffs. It's actually a low risk/high reward move. And that's isn't desperate to me. :toast

McGrady is finished as an NBA player. if he wasn't he would have been on an NBA roster this year instead of playing in China. It was desperate move because there were no other options. They just put a body with NBA experience on the roster. Typical Spurs move getting washed up players and this board goes nuts with excitement.

KL2
04-16-2013, 05:24 PM
If only MIA signed Devin Brown...

Dro210
04-16-2013, 05:24 PM
I feel like he will definitely get PT, and some meaningful PT too... we'll just have to wait and see tho

suitedkings
04-16-2013, 05:24 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BIAYPkiCIAEH0FC.jpg

Budkin
04-16-2013, 05:25 PM
McGrady is finished as an NBA player. if he wasn't he would have been on an NBA roster this year instead of playing in China. It was desperate move because there were no other options. They just put a body with NBA experience on the roster. Typical Spurs move getting washed up players and this board goes nuts with excitement.

As timvp said it's probably just an insurance policy since we're so low on bodies. He most likely won't play anyway unless Kawhi goes down.

Solid D
04-16-2013, 05:26 PM
This is as surprising as the Mike Mitchell re-signing (1990) & Glenn Robinson (2005) signing by the Spurs.

TJastal
04-16-2013, 05:27 PM
8, and we all know you think 15 seasons in the NBA counts for nothing and you don't watch the games anyway, so why bother trying to explain anything to you?

And playing 50+ games isn't enough to even garner a small backup role. Right. Just stfu already.

rascal
04-16-2013, 05:27 PM
As timvp said it's probably just an insurance policy since we're so low on bodies. He most likely won't play anyway unless Kawhi goes down.

This is exactly right.

Dro210
04-16-2013, 05:27 PM
The way I understood it, the Spurs wanted him here at the beginning of the season... He CHOSE to go to China, make more, play in front of all the fans he had made from the Yao era Rockets, and save his body some in a less taxing league, and probably eyed signing with a contender at the end like this.... I could be wrong tho. Anybody got that happening differently??

temujin
04-16-2013, 05:28 PM
Again, I completely disagree.

If Pop was deseperate, he would have keep Stephen Jackson and dealt with his issues even if was a detriment to the younger players.

He filled a need in the best possible situation and to get a veteran who can play 10-15 minutes a game to spell Kawhi is not desperate.

The team has been playing terribly as of late.
2011 2.0.
There are two legitimate bigs and that's it, Bonner and Blair (who might be even hurt) are improbable in PO competition. They just don't belong, without Parker and Ginobili dishing.
It's not clear whether Diaw will come back this season.
Manu has been out 3 weeks, he's Manu and could come back as if nothing, but he's also 36.
Parker, well Parker really looks like someone that has had 3 weeks off since Dec 2011 (which is the reality).
There is simply no legitimate back-up point guard.
In theory, 3, but in reality, none.
They will most likely face the Lakers, and hence some of Stern's cronies.

All this is absolutely amazing, considering that the Spurs have again played the best team basketball of the league in Jan/Feb.

McGrady, a team basketball player he is not.

temujin
04-16-2013, 05:28 PM
Again, I completely disagree.

If Pop was deseperate, he would have keep Stephen Jackson and dealt with his issues even if was a detriment to the younger players.

He filled a need in the best possible situation and to get a veteran who can play 10-15 minutes a game to spell Kawhi is not desperate.

The team has been playing terribly as of late.
2011 2.0.
There are two legitimate bigs and that's it, Bonner and Blair (who might be even hurt) are improbable in PO competition. They just don't belong, without Parker and Ginobili dishing.
It's not clear whether Diaw will come back this season.
Manu has been out 3 weeks, he's Manu and could come back as if nothing, but he's also 36.
Parker, well Parker really looks like someone that has had 3 weeks off since Dec 2011 (which is the reality).
There is simply no legitimate back-up point guard.
In theory, 3, but in reality, none.
They will most likely face the Lakers, and hence some of Stern's cronies.

All this is absolutely amazing, considering that the Spurs have again played the best team basketball of the league in Jan/Feb.

McGrady, a team basketball player he is not.

ChumpDumper
04-16-2013, 05:31 PM
And playing 50+ games isn't enough to even garner a small backup role. Right. Just stfu already.How many times are you going to move the goalposts.

Let us know before you start posting from now on.

TJastal
04-16-2013, 05:31 PM
Timvp,

I disagree. I think he will see some minutes in the playoffs. I can see a scenario in the 2nd unit in a 5 to 8 minutes section of the game. And if he's playing well....his minutes can be extended.

I don't there will be huge minutes....but in the right situation in a series, he will play.

lol MarHill the eternal spurs fan optimist.

rascal
04-16-2013, 05:31 PM
The team has been playing terribly as of late.
2011 2.0.
There are two legitimate bigs and that's it, Bonner and Blair (who might be even hurt) are improbable in PO competition. They just don't belong, without Parker and Ginobili dishing.
It's not clear whether Diaw will come back this season.
Manu has been out 3 weeks, he's Manu and could come back as if nothing, but he's also 36.
Parker, well Parker really looks like someone that has had 3 weeks off since Dec 2011 (which is the reality).
There is simply no legitimate back-up point guard.
In theory, 3, but in reality, none.
They will most likely face the Lakers, and hence some of Stern's cronies.

All this is absolutely amazing, considering that the Spurs have again played the best team basketball of the league in Jan/Feb.

McGrady, a team basketball player he is not.

McGrady won't get enough minutes to be any type of distraction to team basketball.

rascal
04-16-2013, 05:31 PM
The team has been playing terribly as of late.
2011 2.0.
There are two legitimate bigs and that's it, Bonner and Blair (who might be even hurt) are improbable in PO competition. They just don't belong, without Parker and Ginobili dishing.
It's not clear whether Diaw will come back this season.
Manu has been out 3 weeks, he's Manu and could come back as if nothing, but he's also 36.
Parker, well Parker really looks like someone that has had 3 weeks off since Dec 2011 (which is the reality).
There is simply no legitimate back-up point guard.
In theory, 3, but in reality, none.
They will most likely face the Lakers, and hence some of Stern's cronies.

All this is absolutely amazing, considering that the Spurs have again played the best team basketball of the league in Jan/Feb.

McGrady, a team basketball player he is not.

McGrady won't get enough minutes to be any type of distraction to team basketball.

timvp
04-16-2013, 05:32 PM
The only bad part of this signing is the "WHY ISN'T TMAC PLAYING?!?!!?" threads that will hit the forum within a week.

I will be SHOCKED if McGrady plays a minute other than garbage time or extreme injury woes. I'll be surprised if he's in uniform.

rascal
04-16-2013, 05:33 PM
Who is going to start the thread Why doesn't McGrady get more minutes??

temujin
04-16-2013, 05:33 PM
So basically, a psychological signing.

We won't miss jack because we embarked McGrady....

Way to go...

ChumpDumper
04-16-2013, 05:33 PM
Well, he'll probably be on the active roster so I don't see how he won't get a few minutes in the playoffs.

Didn't look terrible in the Chinese highlights. If everyone played in slow motion here, we'd be champs for sure.

rascal
04-16-2013, 05:34 PM
The only bad part of this signing is the "WHY ISN'T TMAC PLAYING?!?!!?" threads that will hit the forum within a week.

I will be SHOCKED if McGrady plays a minute other than garbage time or extreme injury woes. I'll be surprised if he's in uniform.

Beat me by a couple of seconds.

Budkin
04-16-2013, 05:34 PM
This is exactly right.

Would be fun to at least see him play tomorrow just for shits and giggles.

szkorhetz
04-16-2013, 05:34 PM
McGrady won't get enough minutes to be any type of distraction to team basketball.
He averaged what, 5.6 assist per game in China? what are we talking about?

Dro210
04-16-2013, 05:34 PM
The only bad part of this signing is the "WHY ISN'T TMAC PLAYING?!?!!?" threads that will hit the forum within a week.

I will be SHOCKED if McGrady plays a minute other than garbage time or extreme injury woes. I'll be surprised if he's in uniform.

Here's to you being surprised then my friend! :toast Cause my boy is gonna play, and play his ass off Big Dog style.

Hear you on the 'Baynesesque' threads if he doens't tho :lol

temujin
04-16-2013, 05:35 PM
"Give Bonner' minutes to TMac!!!"

Pasta Batman
04-16-2013, 05:35 PM
The only bad part of this signing is the "WHY ISN'T TMAC PLAYING?!?!!?" threads that will hit the forum within a week.

I will be SHOCKED if McGrady plays a minute other than garbage time or extreme injury woes. I'll be surprised if he's in uniform.

Well a lot would depend on how quickly Diaw and Manu comes back. You can tell Pop ain't exactly excited about having Blair and Bonner on the floor. Or Baynes (this season).

rascal
04-16-2013, 05:35 PM
Well, he'll probably be on the active roster so I don't see how he won't get a few minutes in the playoffs.

Didn't look terrible in the Chinese highlights. If everyone played in slow motion here, we'd be champs for sure.

He will get a few minutes but won't be any type of difference maker like many in here are hoping for.

TJastal
04-16-2013, 05:38 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BIAYPkiCIAEH0FC.jpg

:lmao

This is just... sad. I'm sure Chumpdumper is busy organiziing a Pollyanna party to celebrate the impending championship already though. :lol

Strategic
04-16-2013, 05:38 PM
Maybe this is one of those players from over seas that only the Spurs knew about? Pop may be trying to rest Manu so that he will be ready for his annual summerball activities for Timbuktu? I'd be surprised if Mac doesn't average five plus MPG's for the remainder of the Spurs games this season and post season.

szkorhetz
04-16-2013, 05:39 PM
I feel that this arrival will be something like the Diaw-effect last year.

Pasta Batman
04-16-2013, 05:39 PM
He will get a few minutes but won't be any type of difference maker like many in here are hoping for.

Injuries are going to force him to likely be involved unless you think Pop wants to give big minutes to Blair, Bonner and a few others.

ChumpDumper
04-16-2013, 05:40 PM
I just wonder how long the courtship has been going on. The Spurs really may have been thinking about dumping Jack after the trade deadline before his family issues. McGrady's last game in China was Feb 21 -- which also makes me wonder where he has been working out since. Does he still live in Houston?

ChumpDumper
04-16-2013, 05:41 PM
:lmao

This is just... sad. I'm sure Chumpdumper is busy organiziing a Pollyanna party to celebrate the impending championship already though. :lolI'm sure you aren't going to start watching games.

MarHill
04-16-2013, 05:42 PM
The only bad part of this signing is the "WHY ISN'T TMAC PLAYING?!?!!?" threads that will hit the forum within a week.

I will be SHOCKED if McGrady plays a minute other than garbage time or extreme injury woes. I'll be surprised if he's in uniform.

Okay, Timvp. Then he doesn't play. I wouldn't be shocked if there's a scenario where could play some minutes. That's all I'm saying.

I'm not saying he's going to play 25 minutes and drop 16-18 points.

cjw
04-16-2013, 05:42 PM
1st round exit, guaranteed.

You're pretty used to that, aren't you?

Richie
04-16-2013, 05:42 PM
To be honest I don't see why TMac couldn't take Neals role. Handle the ball a little, don't be afraid to shoot.

Personally I don't love the way Neal plays, I think he takes bad shots and can upset the flow, but if Pop is wiling to let Neal do it he should be willing to let TMac do it.

emanueldavidginobili
04-16-2013, 05:43 PM
I think he will definitely get some minutes. I think under a good coach like pop I think tmac will assert himself on both sides of the ball this is the first time he's On a team like this

Suspect
04-16-2013, 05:45 PM
might be useful against Houston.
:lmao scared of Houston

:lmao useful against Houston

:lmao cant even beat the other Asians, not ready for Lin

Boomersgold
04-16-2013, 05:46 PM
Great signing! T-Mac couldn't possible produce less than what Jacks was producing.

Dverde
04-16-2013, 05:48 PM
I think the storyline fairy will sprinkle Houston as our 1st round opponent. Can TMAC get out of the first round against his old team??? I don't understand the haters. Guy has height and an amazing jumpshot. I like JAX better for his defense, but we are better with TMAC than with what we had.

siraulo23
04-16-2013, 05:48 PM
:lmao

at least the spurs signed someone

Spurs Brazil
04-16-2013, 05:48 PM
‏@Monroe_SA
Spurs GM R.C. Buford, re. McGrady: “With status of our roster now we felt like we needed to look at some depth and experience.”

MarHill
04-16-2013, 05:49 PM
The team has been playing terribly as of late.
2011 2.0.
There are two legitimate bigs and that's it, Bonner and Blair (who might be even hurt) are improbable in PO competition. They just don't belong, without Parker and Ginobili dishing.
It's not clear whether Diaw will come back this season.
Manu has been out 3 weeks, he's Manu and could come back as if nothing, but he's also 36.
Parker, well Parker really looks like someone that has had 3 weeks off since Dec 2011 (which is the reality).
There is simply no legitimate back-up point guard.
In theory, 3, but in reality, none.
They will most likely face the Lakers, and hence some of Stern's cronies.

All this is absolutely amazing, considering that the Spurs have again played the best team basketball of the league in Jan/Feb.

McGrady, a team basketball player he is not.

1) Bonner and Blair may or may not be legitimate bigs...they are still in the rotation and are in front of Baynes. So Baynes was not going to get much playing time in this scenario. He will get more next year.

That's not the situtation with T-Mac. Timvp makes a point that T-Mac probably won't play. I could see a scenario where he could get minutes and that's not out of the realm of possiblity.

Lastly, T-Mac probably knows this is his last legitimate shot as a NBA player. So he will be a team player and fill whatever role Pop wants him to fill. Even if he doesn't play but is professional....Pop's word carries weight and he can get an opportunity with another NBA team. That is what he wants...not playing in China for the rest of his career. T-mac will fit in under this scenario.

Of course, you have gone to crazy Stern conspiracy theories to justify your argument. Either the Spurs are good enough to win or they are not....not some crazy theory that Stern has conspire to get them out of the playoffs.

boutons_deux
04-16-2013, 05:49 PM
"an amazing jumpshot"

like Sjax, always a needed shot volume to score, but could get white hot, well, 8 years ago.

Spurs Brazil
04-16-2013, 05:51 PM
I like, he can also play in the small lineup with Manu, Kawhi, Tony and Timmy

szkorhetz
04-16-2013, 05:52 PM
1) Bonner and Blair may or may not be legitimate bigs...they are still in the rotation and are in front of Baynes. So Baynes was not going to get much playing time in this scenario. He will get more next year.

That's not the situtation with T-Mac. Timvp makes a point that T-Mac probably won't play. I could see a scenario where he could get minutes and that's not out of the realm of possiblity.

Lastly, T-Mac probably knows this is his last legitimate shot as a NBA player. So he will be a team player and fill whatever role Pop wants him to fill. Even if he doesn't play but is professional....Pop's word carries weight and he can get an opportunity with another NBA team. That is what he wants...not playing in China for the rest of his career. T-mac will fit in under this scenario.

Of course, you have gone to crazy Stern conspiracy theories to justify your argument. Either the Spurs are good enough to win or they are not....not some crazy theory that Stern has conspire to get them out of the playoffs.

We thought the same about Jack too, so your scenario is somewhat wrong, but, Yeah, I love him on the team.

MarHill
04-16-2013, 05:56 PM
lol MarHill the eternal spurs fan optimist.

Well, when a franchise has averaged at least 53 wins since 1999 and won 4 championships you tend to become an optimist. The Spurs situation is not like the Clippers or Nuggets or Pacers that are good teams but haven't climbed the mountain. Yes, they are coming to end of the road but they have earned the benefit of the doubt. And if they are not good enough this year....then so be it.

Strategic
04-16-2013, 05:56 PM
With Jackson we knew what he was gonna do, notta. At least with McGrady maybe we get something? Jax didn't even belong on the court with the turd towers.

Pasta Batman
04-16-2013, 05:57 PM
I like, he can also play in the small lineup with Manu, Kawhi, Tony and Timmy

This would work well on OKC going small because Thabo would switch to Parker and would push them to cause weird matchups. I like the possibility.

MarHill
04-16-2013, 05:57 PM
We thought the same about Jack too, so your scenario is somewhat wrong, but, Yeah, I love him on the team.

And Jack would have still been on the team.....if he accepted his role. Jack thought he was better than Green or Manu. That's on him.

Strategic
04-16-2013, 05:59 PM
I like, he can also play in the small lineup with Manu, Kawhi, Tony and TimmyI like this assessment. If these Spurs cannot work McGrady in the flow then that says as much about them as it does about him.