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Banks91
07-10-2005, 08:17 PM
Duncan right now has 3, im 100% he will get to #4, same with #5

but wat about 6 or more. Same with finals MVPs. Im guessing that

if he does win 6 rings, he might not have 6 mvps, cuz manu might

eventually win one himself. Wat are you peoples thoughts on this

Spursdaone
07-10-2005, 08:20 PM
Will he win 4?

Banks91
07-10-2005, 08:22 PM
no doubt, next season

Timoha
07-10-2005, 08:22 PM
I think that Tim is in great position to win one or two more. (Doesn't mean it's going to happen.) The 6th one, he may win, but perheps not as a franchais player. We may have a great team, but anything may happen.

Banks91
07-10-2005, 08:25 PM
tru

DDS4
07-10-2005, 08:31 PM
That should be a vBookie bet!

Banks91
07-10-2005, 08:33 PM
problem with that is, it will takes years to accomplish this, and i dont know anybody

thats gonna wait years to find out if they won a bet

jochhejaam
07-10-2005, 08:34 PM
Duncan right now has 3, im 100% he will get to #4, same with #5



It's a hypothetical question which requires conjecture which means guessing.
That would nullify the 100% guarantees.

I'm 100% sure he has a chance to win more rings, absolutely.

Spursdaone
07-10-2005, 08:34 PM
It would be pretty lopsided in Jordan's favor.

Trainwreck2100
07-10-2005, 08:36 PM
That should be a vBookie bet!


We'd have to wait at least four years for the results

SpursFanDan
07-10-2005, 08:38 PM
He definetely has the pieces to atleast contend for the trophy till 2010.

midgetonadonkey
07-10-2005, 08:40 PM
It would be pretty lopsided in Jordan's favor.

Not as lopsided as the number of rings Jordan has compared to Dwade and Garnett have.

Banks91
07-10-2005, 08:41 PM
hey spursdaone, at least with Duncan we can have this conversation,

with ur garnett ur more likely to see a forum asking will he become the next ewing,

barkley, reggie then if he can reach jordan in titles

HB22inSA
07-10-2005, 08:54 PM
I see 4 for sure, 5 is possible, but 6 will never happen.

Especially in today's NBA, I just don't see Tony or Manu, or both for that matter, staying for their entire contracts.

If he was going to win 6, they'd have to win the next 3, which would give them 4 in a row, and 5 of 6, and I don't see that happening.

5 is the best bet.

Spursdaone
07-10-2005, 09:00 PM
Why does everyone think I like Garnett? I just pick the best players by what I think not by my favorites. I hate Shaq but give him credit he deserves and etc.

E20
07-10-2005, 09:03 PM
Yeah, sure Duncan has an excellent chance to win 3 rings. Whos in our way? Nobody except maybe for the Pistons. And after this offseason Duncan will be refreshed and 100% and will play a much more dominant game. Next year we should have an even better chance to win it all.

dn0
07-10-2005, 09:07 PM
why not? He's 29 years old and has a pretty good chance at his fourth in 2006.

violentkitten
07-10-2005, 09:21 PM
this team has a great shot to accomplish a lot over the next few seasons. but, as we well know, anything can happen.

this is precisely why i hate seeing the spurs make deals that are motivated by concerns other than basketball. the franchise has such a rare opportunity to make a lasting mark on the history of the game.

this is no time to be cheap.

exstatic
07-10-2005, 09:35 PM
With the Big Three locked up for the next 5 years, it's possible. That would also tie the Spurs for third in all time NBA championships with the Bulls, and behind Boston and LA.

violentkitten
07-10-2005, 09:44 PM
where do the spurs rank in all-time franchise winning % in the nba? i thought it was 3rd for the longest time and the last couple of seasons couldn't have hurt that.

exstatic
07-10-2005, 10:12 PM
Matt - They're still 3rd, but closing the gap. On the nba site, they have the figures thru 2002, and Boston is at .601 (2612-1735). SA is listed at .570 (1196-904). Adding the last three seasons in, Boston is at 2737-1856 for a .595 percentage, and SA is at 1372-974 for a .584 percentage. We're catching them because we're playing ~ .700 ball and they're treading water at ~.500

TDMVPDPOY
07-10-2005, 10:28 PM
Duncan will exceed jordan imo, he will get the rings but not numerically :D

Spursdaone
07-10-2005, 10:45 PM
I can't see Duncan win 3 more rings. We're talking about Jordan and Pippen that are capable of dominating but Duncan still has to win 3 more rings.

E20
07-10-2005, 11:01 PM
:lmao
!!!
What are you talking about Pippen dominating more than Duncan. The Bulls were basically Jordan. Duncan has an excellent shot at winning 3 rings and even better chance than winning a 4th ring first than Shaq will.

HB22inSA
07-10-2005, 11:03 PM
I think that Duncan only has 3 to 4 more "superstar" years in him.

If Ginobili can take over the franchise label after that (which will be difficult because he's also almost 30 and takes such a pounding), then we'll see.

Medvedenko
07-10-2005, 11:14 PM
He has a strong shot...as long as RC keeps bringing in the necessary pieces. Next year will be a good start considering this years play and more rest. I just don't know if it's going to happen. The Suns are re-tooling in the West, so we'll see.

HB22inSA
07-10-2005, 11:18 PM
If the Spurs stay healthy, I don't see anyone touching them next year.

It may actually be quite easy, like in 1999.

E20
07-10-2005, 11:41 PM
Rest assured once TD steps down as the superstar and turns into a David Robinson type role player Manu and Tony can carry the team. At first Manu might take in more of the load but, the future of the Spurs is with Tony Parker. TP hasn't reached his peak yet and he is gradually getting better and better.

Mixability
07-11-2005, 12:51 AM
Why does everyone think I like Garnett? I just pick the best players by what I think not by my favorites. I hate Shaq but give him credit he deserves and etc.

Are you serious, after all your KG ball-sucking, you want us to think you really don't like him? And you wonder why everyone thinks you're a complete idiot.....

Mr.Vas Deferns
07-11-2005, 05:52 AM
6? I don't know. Very possible though.

Still have a tall ladder to climb to be considered "one of the greats"

L.A. and Boston are still "the teams".

Heck, I don't even put the Bulls in the same conversation.

Sorry but............no.

Vashner
07-11-2005, 11:17 AM
Only time will tell... I doubt we will get 6 though.

midgetonadonkey
07-11-2005, 11:27 AM
My only concern right now is getting 4. If he gets 4 next season, which he has a very good chance barring injury, then I will worry about 5 and so on.

easjer
07-11-2005, 12:11 PM
Dunno. Fan in me says certainly - I could see 7 by the end of his career.

However, the next one alone will be hard enough, and that is barring injuries or other team setbacks. Houston and Dallas will make for one hell of a tough division, and should an unfortunately timed injury strike again, we're looking at a 4 or 5 seed at best - and that can have a big impact on how far they get in the playoffs.

ICE3000
07-11-2005, 01:41 PM
I think that Duncan only has 3 to 4 more "superstar" years in him.

If Ginobili can take over the franchise label after that (which will be difficult because he's also almost 30 and takes such a pounding), then we'll see.


Thats a BIG IF

Sense
07-11-2005, 01:43 PM
It's very likely that he can do it..

Banks91
07-11-2005, 01:44 PM
um last time i checked ginobilli is 1 year younger then duncan, so when duncan

turns into a david robinson type player, manu will be not far behind him

Vashner
07-11-2005, 01:50 PM
Let's focus on 1 Ring at a time shall we? Duncan does not respond good to pressure. If he lurks on this forum then your gonna hurt the quest.

Championships are done one season at a time. If you don't you burn out trying to set
too lofty a goal. Let's savor what we have.. we may never see it again.

People where so quick to bury the victory.. im still party...

Banks91
07-11-2005, 01:57 PM
tru, so im endin this thread that i started, it shall be brought up again

next summer when were one ring closer

ALVAREZ6
07-11-2005, 02:28 PM
um last time i checked ginobilli is 1 year younger then duncan, so when duncan

Oh really, last time I checked, Manu is 27, and Duncan is 29.

Timoha
07-11-2005, 02:36 PM
Tim is about 1 year and 3 months older then Manu. However (in theory) when Tim becomes older, I don't think that Manu will be in the right condition to still be a superstar (given the way he plays and that big men can usually be efective for a longer period of time) so thefuture of this team is probably with someone else.

spurs_fan_in_exile
07-11-2005, 02:43 PM
Duncan should get four, might get five, but I really don't see six happening. For starters, as Phoenix is showing with its offseason moves, teams are catching onto the defense bandwagon. At the very least they are realizing that their best bet for success when putting a team together is to design it to beat the Spurs, because for the moment that's where the road to the rings runs through.

On top of that, I think the new CBA, with its shorter contracts and higher cap, is going to make keeping together a good team that much harder. The Spurs have most of their key bench guys shored up for two or three more seasons but after that it's going to be even tougher to really build a dynasty. The free agent market is going to be a lot more competitive, the world has gotten wiser to the diamonds in the rough of the Euroleagues, and the Spurs are wearing the biggest bullseye on their backs.

1Parker1
07-11-2005, 03:34 PM
I don't know about Duncan, but I think Horry has a good chance of passing Jordan in the ring department.........:)

strangeweather
07-11-2005, 04:10 PM
For starters, as Phoenix is showing with its offseason moves, teams are catching onto the defense bandwagon.

I agree with you, but much easier said than done. A team saying "Oh, we have to have defense" doesn't mean anything. It takes a significant long-term commitment from an entire organization to build the kind of defense that the Spurs and Pistons have. The next team to beat the Spurs (whenever that happens) is a lot more likely to be built upon its own unique strengths than to be a Spurs knockoff, just as the Bulls team that took down the Bad Boy Pistons was built with good defense and an unstoppable offensive star rather than simply copying the gritty physical defense of the Pistons.


On top of that, I think the new CBA, with its shorter contracts and higher cap, is going to make keeping together a good team that much harder. The Spurs have most of their key bench guys shored up for two or three more seasons but after that it's going to be even tougher to really build a dynasty. The free agent market is going to be a lot more competitive, the world has gotten wiser to the diamonds in the rough of the Euroleagues, and the Spurs are wearing the biggest bullseye on their backs.

I think the biggest key at that point will be whether some of the guys we already have stashed away overseas come through for us. If guys like Sanikidze and Mahinmi can develop into solid contributors that keep us from having to play the trade / free agency game like everyone else, we have a leg up. If not, it will be a lot harder.

Jimcs50
07-11-2005, 04:24 PM
He will win a total of 7 rings.