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NDIANAPOLIS -- Dwyane Wade (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/1987/dwyane-wade) thinks he knows what is causing his Miami Heat (http://espn.go.com/nba/team/_/name/mia/miami-heat) team to become a shell of itself against the Indiana Pacers (http://espn.go.com/nba/team/_/name/ind/indiana-pacers). And it is not his bad knee or Chris Bosh (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/1977/chris-bosh)'s sore ankle.
More here:
http://espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2013/story/_/id/9333733/2013-nba-playoffs-dwyane-wade-says-chris-bosh-need-bigger-role
(http://espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2013/story/_/id/9333733/2013-nba-playoffs-dwyane-wade-says-chris-bosh-need-bigger-role)
You don't bring in the best player in the league to join forces and then bitch about your diminishing role.
Wade :lmao
Calispursfan11
06-02-2013, 01:19 PM
NDIANAPOLIS -- Dwyane Wade (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/1987/dwyane-wade) thinks he knows what is causing his Miami Heat (http://espn.go.com/nba/team/_/name/mia/miami-heat) team to become a shell of itself against the Indiana Pacers (http://espn.go.com/nba/team/_/name/ind/indiana-pacers). And it is not his bad knee or Chris Bosh (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/1977/chris-bosh)'s sore ankle.
More here:
http://espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2013/story/_/id/9333733/2013-nba-playoffs-dwyane-wade-says-chris-bosh-need-bigger-role
(http://espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2013/story/_/id/9333733/2013-nba-playoffs-dwyane-wade-says-chris-bosh-need-bigger-role)
You don't bring in the best player in the league to join forces and then bitch about your diminishing role.
Wade :lmao
Some truth in what Wade is saying but that doesn't take away from the fact that he's been sucking on his own this series.
Some truth in what Wade is saying but that doesn't take away from the fact that he's been sucking on his own this series.
If he could suck on his own, I say go for it.
There is truth, but it's a truth he invited and the devil must be paid.
Calispursfan11
06-02-2013, 01:20 PM
Either way though, it's great for the Spurs. Hopefully, if the Heat can even get past the Pacers, they will already be in self-implosion mode by the start of the finals.
Calispursfan11
06-02-2013, 01:23 PM
If he could suck on his own, I say go for it.
There is truth, but it's a truth he invited and the devil must be paid.
True, it's his prerogative. He was once an amazing athlete with a lot of flexibility so it might be possible.
StrengthAndHonor
06-02-2013, 01:26 PM
Wade has no room tbh, he's been a no show in the last 2 games. But he does have a point. Miami's biggest win and its no surprise, was Game 3. Lebron didn't brought the ball much and flow of offense was spectacular. Lebron posted and dominated George inside, it was a murder actually, Indiana didn't even double Lebron since doing so opens up Miami's shooters. The Heat in return had better rhythm, evidently, all 5 starters scored in double figures with the highest point total of a player being just 22 points which was Lebron followed by Wade at 18. Their usage rate was also even no surprise, Lebron 24.2 and Wade 24.8. Balanced and effective.
Eversince then, and I have no clue why, Miami started playing the usual Lebron dribbling and passing the ball to an open perimeter shooter much like how he used his teammates in Cleveland.
Lebron's dipping into a territory shared by the ballhogers. He's shooting more, scoring less with lower efficiency in this series.
It's not good for the Spurs. When teams like the Heat have in fighting, they play harder because they are all pissed off. It's better when they are content and lazy.
"Let me have men about me that are fat, Sleek-headed men, and such as sleep o' nights: Yond Cassius has a lean and hungry look; He thinks too much ... such men are dangerous." -Julius Caesar Act 1
Wade has no room tbh, he's been a no show in the last 2 games. But he does have a point. Miami's biggest win and its no surprise, was Game 3. Lebron didn't brought the ball much and flow of offense was spectacular. Lebron posted and dominated George, it was a murder actually, Wade and Chalmers brought the ball majority of the game while Lebron was on the elbow for the most part either scoring or passing to Andersen inside. The Heat in return had better rhythm, evidently all 5 starters scored in double figures with the highest point total of a player being 22 which was Lebron followed by Wade at 18. Their usage rate was also even no surprise, Lebron 24.2 and Wade 24.8.
Eversince then, and I have no clue why, Miami startes playing the usual Lebron dribbling and passing the ball to an open perimeter shooter much like how he used his teammates in Cleveland.
Lebron's dipping into a territory shared by the ballhogers. He's shooting more, scoring less with lower efficiency in this series.
Wade cannot make a shot, doesn't finish at the rim, is basically playing shitty. The same is true for Bosh but he's not had many open looks except from outside. Hibbert has shut him down. Lebron gets to the rim at will.
Let's just hope they stay in hero mode because we all know how well that works at this level.
D-Wade
06-02-2013, 01:31 PM
I get where Wade is coming from, but if he wasn't stinking up the joint, he wouldn't even have to say something like this. He'd just take over like he did in the 11 finals and yelled at Bron for playing like shit. Now it's time for Bron to return the favor, imo.
End of the day, though ESPN is trying to make something out of nothing. The team is struggling and Wade is the primary culprit. His mind wants to do one thing but his body isn't letting him. But that's no excuse for playing disinterested & gutless, something you could never say about him before.
StrengthAndHonor
06-02-2013, 01:40 PM
One way or the other, they need a new blue print because what worked for OKC last year will not work for the Spurs this year, if Indiana's backcourt catches fire, it may not even work against indiana. Lebron even at 33, 10 and 9 will not save them. Forget about Wade for a minute since I agree he's been a no show, though he was pretty efficient in game 3, I'll give him another shot. Assuming its not injury, I'm sure he'll have a decent game in 7.
If Im Spoelstra, I'll roll the dice. Put Lebron in the paint much like Game 3, have Lebron beat George again in the post and tell your shooters to be ready or for Birdman to cut inside for an easy deuce and allow Wade to bring the ball up. Wade doesn't even need to score much, just allow him to get in rhythm and get other players involved. In the 4th, with a comfortable lead, Lebron can finish the game since he can turn it up anytime unlike his teammates.
StrengthAndHonor
06-02-2013, 01:40 PM
Here's a clip from game 3, and Wade has a lot more possession of the ball allowing better rhythm overall, the whole team had better touches and ball movement was better compared to their last 2 games.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAUrRehJrvg
D-Wade
06-02-2013, 01:43 PM
If Im Spoelstra, I'll roll the dice. Put Lebron in the paint much like Game 3, have Lebron beat George again in the post and tell your shooters to be read or for Birdman to cut inside for an easy deuce and allow Wade to bring the ball up. Wade doesn't even need to score much, just allow him to get in rhythm and get other players involved. In the 4th, with a comfortable lead.
Good take.
But our coach rarely sticks with shit that works. Like taking out Haslem in game 5 after he had been balling... then finally realizing that "hey, this guy's still on fire I should keep him in."
StrengthAndHonor
06-02-2013, 01:50 PM
They need to capitalize on Birdman's return. He's too quick for West and and too explosive for Hansborough. He's been killing the Pacers inside. and you're right, I can't believe Spoelstra would not stick with what works. Its definitely mind boggling. He just relied on Lebron the past 2 games to win the series, which only gave them a 50% chance.
Splits
06-02-2013, 01:54 PM
"We've got to do a good job of making sure me and Chris have our opportunities to succeed throughout the game."
Translation: :depressedBron is acting like a ballhog :depressed
"We've got guys individually who want to play better, but we've got to try to help each other out in this locker room and not leave it up to the individual to self-will it."
Translation: :depressed I SAID he's a motherfucking ballhog! He goes into hero mode and I have a sad!:depressed
"I get a little more rhythm defensively, I get to defend every play. Offensively, I don't get the ball every play.
Translation: :depressedSee what I did here? "Get" to play defense? lawlz! Fucking ballhog won't distribute, shoots every time.:depressed
DUNCANownsKOBE
06-02-2013, 01:55 PM
Bosh is also too quick for any Pacers player to guard but Philibeaner would rather use him as a rich man's Channing Frye (:lmao camping him 30 feet from the hoop) than use him in isos and pick and rolls which would actually test Hibbert's lack of quickness/athleticism. Bosh iso'd against Hibbert should be the mismatch of the series and it's getting completely unused.
AaronY
06-02-2013, 02:18 PM
Bosh is also too quick for any Pacers player to guard but Philibeaner would rather use him as a rich man's Channing Frye (:lmao camping him 30 feet from the hoop) than use him in isos and pick and rolls which would actually test Hibbert's lack of quickness/athleticism. Bosh iso'd against Hibbert should be the mismatch of the series and it's getting completely unused.
I don't get all this Bosh defense, guy was a good rebounder in Toronto, who his last year there put up a really awesome rebound rate..now he has 21 rebounds in 6 games in the ECF..meanwhile Hibbert has 31 offensive rebounds..suppose that's Spo's fault too..maybe, just maybe the guys a fucking pussy who can't be counted on to man up in big moments..
StrengthAndHonor
06-02-2013, 02:36 PM
I don't get all this Bosh defense, guy was a good rebounder in Toronto, who his last year there put up a really awesome rebound rate..now he has 21 rebounds in 6 games in the ECF..meanwhile Hibbert has 31 offensive rebounds..suppose that's Spo's fault too..maybe, just maybe the guys a fucking pussy who can't be counted on to man up in big moments..
You just nailed it tbh. Bosh doesn't want any part in this. He's happy shooting his 18 footers and 3 pointers. Birdman at least loves the contact and play inside. And Miami are complaining they don't get as much FT's and calls? No shit your C plays like a guard, Haslem is happy popping his mid range and your most physical presence is creating shots for the team.
His aweful rebounding also did not happen just in the playoffs. He had 9 rebounds in 3 regular season games against Indiana.
Trainwreck2100
06-02-2013, 02:47 PM
Here's a clip from game 3, and Wade has a lot more possession of the ball allowing better rhythm overall, the whole team had better touches and ball movement was better compared to their last 2 games.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAUrRehJrvg
shit's gone south for the Heat since game 3 when Lebron spent all that time on the block. Yes it worked but after that they just went away from their usual offense for some stupid reason
Good take.
But our coach rarely sticks with shit that works. Like taking out Haslem in game 5 after he had been balling... then finally realizing that "hey, this guy's still on fire I should keep him in."
Young coaches often are motivated more by greasing squeaky wheels than by instituting proper strategies and subs. They are people managers, game is second, especially where a superstar is concerned. You piss off the star, you get fired. You can lose the ECF and still keep your job, maybe.
Lincoln
06-02-2013, 02:53 PM
Translation: :depressedBron is acting like a ballhog :depressed
Translation: :depressed I SAID he's a motherfucking ballhog! He goes into hero mode and I have a sad!:depressed
Translation: :depressedSee what I did here? "Get" to play defense? lawlz! Fucking ballhog won't distribute, shoots every time.:depressedYou're funny
DUNCANownsKOBE
06-02-2013, 02:56 PM
I don't get all this Bosh defense, guy was a good rebounder in Toronto, who his last year there put up a really awesome rebound rate..now he has 21 rebounds in 6 games in the ECF..meanwhile Hibbert has 31 offensive rebounds..suppose that's Spo's fault too..maybe, just maybe the guys a fucking pussy who can't be counted on to man up in big moments..
I'm not talking about Bosh's rebounding, I'm talking about his face-up game and ability to take slower bigs off the dribble.
StrengthAndHonor
06-02-2013, 02:57 PM
Young coaches often are motivated more by greasing squeaky wheels than by instituting proper strategies and subs. They are people managers, game is second, especially where a superstar is concerned. You piss off the star, you get fired. You can lose the ECF and still keep your job, maybe.
This much is true. Plus Spo is not the type to confront any of his players, he's more of a "Guys, guys we're fine, play your game and we'll be fine" He's been pretty fortunate coaching a trio who placed their egos aside but now that problems are arising we'll see his true coaching ability.
I think this comment was in response to Lebron's statement about going back to his Cleveland days. They're all vets, this shouldve been kept in house.
AaronY
06-02-2013, 03:17 PM
I'm not talking about Bosh's rebounding, I'm talking about his face-up game and ability to take slower bigs off the dribble.
It's all tied together..Hibbert would just play 1-2 steps play off Bosh whose jumper not consistently falling (cuz he's a pussy) and with his 7'3 length and 7'6 widespan and the fact that hes not some uncoordinated dumb Javale/DeAndre level idiot who would fall for a pump fakes or take bad angles he would use the space and just time his shots and use his length to make them insanely difficult..West would probably get up close on him and just straight up punk him and if he got by West, Hibbert would be there..don't forget this is a guy who couldn't take over enough games offensively to get his team out of a first round series in the East..
AaronY
06-02-2013, 03:21 PM
And why does he get a fucking pass for his rebounding so much..earlier in the year he pulled a Spurstalk and blamed Spoelstra, said he was scrambling around too much to box out and get good rebound position..well this series he has been guarding West and Hibbert all series as they post up so hes in the paint, all series, the balls bouncing around there all over the place and there getting like five rebounds to his one
AaronY
06-02-2013, 03:27 PM
You just nailed it tbh. Bosh doesn't want any part in this. He's happy shooting his 18 footers and 3 pointers. Birdman at least loves the contact and play inside. And Miami are complaining they don't get as much FT's and calls? No shit your C plays like a guard, Haslem is happy popping his mid range and your most physical presence is creating shots for the team.
His aweful rebounding also did not happen just in the playoffs. He had 9 rebounds in 3 regular season games against Indiana.
Yup..couldn't agree more with all this..it's funny cuz people derisively compared him to Horace Grant when he signed as an insult, He'll this fucking Miami would kill to have prime Horace rite now, guy wasn't afraid to mix it up in the paint and could score on the offensive glass, finish strong, and hit jumpers everything this pussy refuses to/can't do..
apalisoc_9
06-02-2013, 03:31 PM
I'm not sure if he's referring to Lebron dominating ball possession or Noris Cole, Chalmers, Allen being much more aggressive and at times, specially wash up allen, forces the issue way to many times
Chief Brody
06-02-2013, 03:31 PM
You're funny
I don't know how he does it.
Asif Ali Zardari
06-02-2013, 03:32 PM
Lebron has always made his teammates worse, this isn't news. The media gushes over his "unselfishness" and assists but he just ball hogs in a different way.
AaronY
06-02-2013, 03:34 PM
Asif is not a Lebron fan apparently
apalisoc_9
06-02-2013, 03:35 PM
Lebron has always made his teammates worse, this isn't news. The media gushes over his "unselfishness" and assists but he just ball hogs in a different way.
We're not talking about kobe, you can leave.
Thebesteva
06-02-2013, 03:41 PM
You should replace the word role with the word black dick up his ass
You know a nigga is the future GOAT when shooting 50% is considered a drop in efficiency tbh.
Splits
06-02-2013, 05:39 PM
I don't know how he does it.
I know right? Obscure Jaws reference trolls are so hilarious. Great body of work. What's your main, BatManu20?
Wade has no room tbh, he's been a no show in the last 2 games. But he does have a point. Miami's biggest win and its no surprise, was Game 3. Lebron didn't brought the ball much and flow of offense was spectacular. Lebron posted and dominated George inside, it was a murder actually, Indiana didn't even double Lebron since doing so opens up Miami's shooters. The Heat in return had better rhythm, evidently, all 5 starters scored in double figures with the highest point total of a player being just 22 points which was Lebron followed by Wade at 18. Their usage rate was also even no surprise, Lebron 24.2 and Wade 24.8. Balanced and effective.
Eversince then, and I have no clue why, Miami started playing the usual Lebron dribbling and passing the ball to an open perimeter shooter much like how he used his teammates in Cleveland.
Lebron's dipping into a territory shared by the ballhogers. He's shooting more, scoring less with lower efficiency in this series.
wtf? Your theory would make more sense if his teammates including Wade made their fucking shots.
If they suck that bad then the logical choice is Lebron's still very efficient usage over their suckage. Niggas gotta step up. Not bitch and moan.
StrengthAndHonor
06-02-2013, 05:56 PM
wtf? Your theory would make more sense if his teammates including Wade made their fucking shots.
If they suck that bad then the logical choice is Lebron's still very efficient usage over their suckage. Niggas gotta step up. Not bitch and moan.
Its not a theory. That was their game plan in Game 3. I believe I posted their numbers.:rolleyes
Wade had to rely on broken ISO's and broken plays the past 2 games.
Wade deserves another shot, he earned it. Let him put up and give him more opportunities which also allows the whole team to have better ball movement.
JamStone
06-02-2013, 06:02 PM
Great players don't whine about not getting enough touches. They do something about it during the game. They get more aggressive and find ways to make plays, even if they aren't getting touches. They attack the offensive glass, go out and get steals or run really hard after made baskets or defensive rebounds to get opportunities in transition. It's not like this is the first season Wade has played with LeBron. Wade is making excuses for him sucking. It's not a legit excuse. Blaming his injured knee sounds more practical than blaming lack of touches. He's being a bitch right now. Stop crying about touches and go out and play better. That's what he needs to do in game 7.
StrengthAndHonor
06-02-2013, 06:14 PM
Gasol is a great player and he moans about touches. Dwight complained in Orlando. Great players complain all the time. Wade is a scoring guard, aweful as he has been the past few games he needs more scoring opportunities, Lebron obviously is not the issue so it goes to the coaching staff for failing to utilize him. Its hard to get in a rhythm when you're getting less than 10 shots and having to create off a broken play.
JamStone
06-02-2013, 06:29 PM
That's why Pau and Dwight have never been truly great players. They have both shown to be mentally weak or unable to overcome certain types of adversity. And when they have complained, I felt the same way about them. I thought they were being bitches.
StrengthAndHonor
06-02-2013, 06:51 PM
Our definition is not the same, Gasol was a great player that helped Bryant cemented his legacy by winning back to back. He's also a successful international player with great credentials. A future HOFer. I'm pretty sure Gasol is a great player. Dwight is also great minus his diva season. I do agree they're all bitches and players in general should put up or shut up.
That being said. I'm willing to bet Wade will come out with an excellent game en route to their 3rd Finals appearance.
Our definition is not the same, Gasol was a great player that helped Bryant cemented his legacy by winning back to back. He's also a successful international player with great credentials. A future HOFer. I'm pretty sure Gasol is a great player. Dwight is also great minus his diva season. I do agree they're all bitches and players in general should put up or shut up.
That being said. I'm willing to bet Wade will come out with an excellent game en route to their 3rd Finals appearance.
His 4th
StrengthAndHonor
06-02-2013, 07:26 PM
His 4th
Their 3rd as a team.
Their 3rd as a team.
No, their 4th as a team. The Heat have been 3 times already. There are people with the Heat this year who weren't there last year.
StrengthAndHonor
06-02-2013, 07:35 PM
:lol Their 3rd as a a team I mean for the Super friends.
jimbo
06-03-2013, 02:06 AM
Great players don't whine about not getting enough touches. They do something about it during the game. They get more aggressive and find ways to make plays, even if they aren't getting touches. They attack the offensive glass, go out and get steals or run really hard after made baskets or defensive rebounds to get opportunities in transition. It's not like this is the first season Wade has played with LeBron. Wade is making excuses for him sucking. It's not a legit excuse. Blaming his injured knee sounds more practical than blaming lack of touches. He's being a bitch right now. Stop crying about touches and go out and play better. That's what he needs to do in game 7.
THIS
Do ya'll remember how Wade played during the streak? He would get 6-8 points a game off of easy baseline cuts. He "reinvented" himself to play better with the ball in Lebron's hands more. I have not seen him do that a whole lot this series and when he does it he'll pussy out. He's missed a few layups like that.
Venti Quattro
06-03-2013, 04:05 AM
:lmao Wade
How about not sucking first, you piece of shit
D-Wade
06-03-2013, 01:09 PM
Clearly something's going on between Flash and LBJ. Wade has been MIA (pun intended) from the last few press conferences, when Bron + Wade always do them together. I think that comment about "going back to the Cleveland days" got under Wade's skin. I'm not gonna say it's uncalled for cuz Bron's been carrying us, but it might not have been the smartest thing to say publicly.
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