Heat: Dwyane Wade wants bigger role

[DMC]

NDIANAPOLIS -- Dwyane Wade thinks he knows what is causing his Miami Heat team to become a s of itself against the Indiana Pacers. And it is not his bad knee or Chris Bosh's sore ankle.

More here:

http://espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2013/story/_/id/9333733/2013-nba-playoffs-dwyane-wade-says-chris-bosh-need-bigger-role

You don't bring in the best player in the league to join forces and then about your diminishing role.

Wade

[Calispursfan11]

NDIANAPOLIS -- Dwyane Wade thinks he knows what is causing his Miami Heat team to become a s of itself against the Indiana Pacers. And it is not his bad knee or Chris Bosh's sore ankle.

More here:

http://espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2013/story/_/id/9333733/2013-nba-playoffs-dwyane-wade-says-chris-bosh-need-bigger-role

You don't bring in the best player in the league to join forces and then about your diminishing role.

Wade

Some truth in what Wade is saying but that doesn't take away from the fact that he's been sucking on his own this series.

[DMC]

Some truth in what Wade is saying but that doesn't take away from the fact that he's been sucking on his own this series.

If he could suck on his own, I say go for it.


There is truth, but it's a truth he invited and the devil must be paid.

[Calispursfan11]

Either way though, it's great for the Spurs. Hopefully, if the Heat can even get past the Pacers, they will already be in self-implosion mode by the start of the finals.

[Calispursfan11]

If he could suck on his own, I say go for it.


There is truth, but it's a truth he invited and the devil must be paid.

True, it's his prerogative. He was once an amazing athlete with a lot of flexibility so it might be possible.

[StrengthAndHonor]

Wade has no room tbh, he's been a no show in the last 2 games. But he does have a point. Miami's biggest win and its no surprise, was Game 3. Lebron didn't brought the ball much and flow of offense was spectacular. Lebron posted and dominated George inside, it was a murder actually, Indiana didn't even double Lebron since doing so opens up Miami's shooters. The Heat in return had better rhythm, evidently, all 5 starters scored in double figures with the highest point total of a player being just 22 points which was Lebron followed by Wade at 18. Their usage rate was also even no surprise, Lebron 24.2 and Wade 24.8. Balanced and effective.


Eversince then, and I have no clue why, Miami started playing the usual Lebron dribbling and passing the ball to an open perimeter shooter much like how he used his teammates in Cleveland.

Lebron's dipping into a territory shared by the ballhogers. He's shooting more, scoring less with lower efficiency in this series.

[DMC]

It's not good for the Spurs. When teams like the Heat have in fighting, they play harder because they are all pissed off. It's better when they are content and lazy.

"Let me have men about me that are fat, Sleek-headed men, and such as sleep o' nights: Yond Cassius has a lean and hungry look; He thinks too much ... such men are dangerous." -Julius Caesar Act 1

[DMC]

Wade has no room tbh, he's been a no show in the last 2 games. But he does have a point. Miami's biggest win and its no surprise, was Game 3. Lebron didn't brought the ball much and flow of offense was spectacular. Lebron posted and dominated George, it was a murder actually, Wade and Chalmers brought the ball majority of the game while Lebron was on the elbow for the most part either scoring or passing to Andersen inside. The Heat in return had better rhythm, evidently all 5 starters scored in double figures with the highest point total of a player being 22 which was Lebron followed by Wade at 18. Their usage rate was also even no surprise, Lebron 24.2 and Wade 24.8.

Eversince then, and I have no clue why, Miami startes playing the usual Lebron dribbling and passing the ball to an open perimeter shooter much like how he used his teammates in Cleveland.

Lebron's dipping into a territory shared by the ballhogers. He's shooting more, scoring less with lower efficiency in this series.

Wade cannot make a shot, doesn't finish at the rim, is basically playing ty. The same is true for Bosh but he's not had many open looks except from outside. Hibbert has shut him down. Lebron gets to the rim at will.

Let's just hope they stay in hero mode because we all know how well that works at this level.

[D-Wade]

I get where Wade is coming from, but if he wasn't stinking up the joint, he wouldn't even have to say something like this. He'd just take over like he did in the 11 finals and yelled at Bron for playing like . Now it's time for Bron to return the favor, imo.

End of the day, though ESPN is trying to make something out of nothing. The team is struggling and Wade is the primary culprit. His mind wants to do one thing but his body isn't letting him. But that's no excuse for playing disinterested & gutless, something you could never say about him before.

[StrengthAndHonor]

One way or the other, they need a new blue print because what worked for OKC last year will not work for the Spurs this year, if Indiana's backcourt catches fire, it may not even work against indiana. Lebron even at 33, 10 and 9 will not save them. Forget about Wade for a minute since I agree he's been a no show, though he was pretty efficient in game 3, I'll give him another shot. Assuming its not injury, I'm sure he'll have a decent game in 7.

If Im Spoelstra, I'll roll the dice. Put Lebron in the paint much like Game 3, have Lebron beat George again in the post and tell your shooters to be ready or for Birdman to cut inside for an easy deuce and allow Wade to bring the ball up. Wade doesn't even need to score much, just allow him to get in rhythm and get other players involved. In the 4th, with a comfortable lead, Lebron can finish the game since he can turn it up anytime unlike his teammates.

[StrengthAndHonor]

Here's a clip from game 3, and Wade has a lot more possession of the ball allowing better rhythm overall, the whole team had better touches and ball movement was better compared to their last 2 games.

[D-Wade]

If Im Spoelstra, I'll roll the dice. Put Lebron in the paint much like Game 3, have Lebron beat George again in the post and tell your shooters to be read or for Birdman to cut inside for an easy deuce and allow Wade to bring the ball up. Wade doesn't even need to score much, just allow him to get in rhythm and get other players involved. In the 4th, with a comfortable lead.

Good take.

But our coach rarely sticks with that works. Like taking out Haslem in game 5 after he had been balling... then finally realizing that "hey, this guy's still on fire I should keep him in."

[StrengthAndHonor]

They need to capitalize on Birdman's return. He's too quick for West and and too explosive for Hansborough. He's been killing the Pacers inside. and you're right, I can't believe Spoelstra would not stick with what works. Its definitely mind boggling. He just relied on Lebron the past 2 games to win the series, which only gave them a 50% chance.

[Splits]

"We've got to do a good job of making sure me and Chris have our opportunities to succeed throughout the game."

Translation: Bron is acting like a ballhog

"We've got guys individually who want to play better, but we've got to try to help each other out in this locker room and not leave it up to the individual to self-will it."

Translation: I SAID he's a mother ing ballhog! He goes into hero mode and I have a sad!

"I get a little more rhythm defensively, I get to defend every play. Offensively, I don't get the ball every play.

Translation: See what I did here? "Get" to play defense? lawlz! ing ballhog won't distribute, shoots every time.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Bosh is also too quick for any Pacers player to guard but Phili would rather use him as a rich man's Channing Frye ( camping him 30 feet from the hoop) than use him in isos and pick and rolls which would actually test Hibbert's lack of quickness/athleticism. Bosh iso'd against Hibbert should be the mismatch of the series and it's getting completely unused.

[AaronY]

Bosh is also too quick for any Pacers player to guard but Phili would rather use him as a rich man's Channing Frye ( camping him 30 feet from the hoop) than use him in isos and pick and rolls which would actually test Hibbert's lack of quickness/athleticism. Bosh iso'd against Hibbert should be the mismatch of the series and it's getting completely unused.

I don't get all this Bosh defense, guy was a good rebounder in Toronto, who his last year there put up a really awesome rebound rate..now he has 21 rebounds in 6 games in the ECF..meanwhile Hibbert has 31 offensive rebounds..suppose that's Spo's fault too..maybe, just maybe the guys a ing pussy who can't be counted on to man up in big moments..

[StrengthAndHonor]

I don't get all this Bosh defense, guy was a good rebounder in Toronto, who his last year there put up a really awesome rebound rate..now he has 21 rebounds in 6 games in the ECF..meanwhile Hibbert has 31 offensive rebounds..suppose that's Spo's fault too..maybe, just maybe the guys a ing pussy who can't be counted on to man up in big moments..

You just nailed it tbh. Bosh doesn't want any part in this. He's happy shooting his 18 footers and 3 pointers. Birdman at least loves the contact and play inside. And Miami are complaining they don't get as much FT's and calls? No your C plays like a guard, Haslem is happy popping his mid range and your most physical presence is creating shots for the team.


His aweful rebounding also did not happen just in the playoffs. He had 9 rebounds in 3 regular season games against Indiana.

[Trainwreck2100]

Here's a clip from game 3, and Wade has a lot more possession of the ball allowing better rhythm overall, the whole team had better touches and ball movement was better compared to their last 2 games.

's gone south for the Heat since game 3 when Lebron spent all that time on the block. Yes it worked but after that they just went away from their usual offense for some stupid reason

[DMC]

Good take.

But our coach rarely sticks with that works. Like taking out Haslem in game 5 after he had been balling... then finally realizing that "hey, this guy's still on fire I should keep him in."

Young coaches often are motivated more by greasing squeaky wheels than by ins uting proper strategies and subs. They are people managers, game is second, especially where a superstar is concerned. You piss off the star, you get fired. You can lose the ECF and still keep your job, maybe.

[Lincoln]

Translation: Bron is acting like a ballhog



Translation: I SAID he's a mother ing ballhog! He goes into hero mode and I have a sad!



Translation: See what I did here? "Get" to play defense? lawlz! ing ballhog won't distribute, shoots every time.

You're funny

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

I don't get all this Bosh defense, guy was a good rebounder in Toronto, who his last year there put up a really awesome rebound rate..now he has 21 rebounds in 6 games in the ECF..meanwhile Hibbert has 31 offensive rebounds..suppose that's Spo's fault too..maybe, just maybe the guys a ing pussy who can't be counted on to man up in big moments..

I'm not talking about Bosh's rebounding, I'm talking about his face-up game and ability to take slower bigs off the dribble.

[StrengthAndHonor]

Young coaches often are motivated more by greasing squeaky wheels than by ins uting proper strategies and subs. They are people managers, game is second, especially where a superstar is concerned. You piss off the star, you get fired. You can lose the ECF and still keep your job, maybe.

This much is true. Plus Spo is not the type to confront any of his players, he's more of a "Guys, guys we're fine, play your game and we'll be fine" He's been pretty fortunate coaching a trio who placed their egos aside but now that problems are arising we'll see his true coaching ability.

I think this comment was in response to Lebron's statement about going back to his Cleveland days. They're all vets, this shouldve been kept in house.

[AaronY]

I'm not talking about Bosh's rebounding, I'm talking about his face-up game and ability to take slower bigs off the dribble.

It's all tied together..Hibbert would just play 1-2 steps play off Bosh whose jumper not consistently falling (cuz he's a pussy) and with his 7'3 length and 7'6 widespan and the fact that hes not some uncoordinated dumb Javale/DeAndre level idiot who would fall for a pump fakes or take bad angles he would use the space and just time his shots and use his length to make them insanely difficult..West would probably get up close on him and just straight up punk him and if he got by West, Hibbert would be there..don't forget this is a guy who couldn't take over enough games offensively to get his team out of a first round series in the East..

[AaronY]

And why does he get a ing pass for his rebounding so much..earlier in the year he pulled a Spurstalk and blamed Spoelstra, said he was scrambling around too much to box out and get good rebound position..well this series he has been guarding West and Hibbert all series as they post up so hes in the paint, all series, the balls bouncing around there all over the place and there getting like five rebounds to his one

[AaronY]

You just nailed it tbh. Bosh doesn't want any part in this. He's happy shooting his 18 footers and 3 pointers. Birdman at least loves the contact and play inside. And Miami are complaining they don't get as much FT's and calls? No your C plays like a guard, Haslem is happy popping his mid range and your most physical presence is creating shots for the team.


His aweful rebounding also did not happen just in the playoffs. He had 9 rebounds in 3 regular season games against Indiana.

Yup..couldn't agree more with all this..it's funny cuz people derisively compared him to Horace Grant when he signed as an insult, He'll this ing Miami would kill to have prime Horace rite now, guy wasn't afraid to mix it up in the paint and could score on the offensive glass, finish strong, and hit jumpers everything this pussy refuses to/can't do..