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dallasmaverickslose
06-14-2013, 11:46 AM
I'm pulling for splitter to do good but I'm just don't know if he's gonna make it happen for us. Blair would have been good but his height just isn't gonna work for us. Anyone else agree that it's time we draft ourselves a big badass UNITED STATES OF AMERICAN that isn't afraid to bully opponents in the paint? I think it's time. Timmy's been the man to fill this role for the longest time, but with his age becoming a factor it's time we give him a player to groom to take his place, because I just don't know if splitter is up to the task, as much as I'd hate to say it.

T Park
06-14-2013, 11:48 AM
Why does he have to be American?

RD2191
06-14-2013, 11:49 AM
Si.

spurraider21
06-14-2013, 11:49 AM
Why does he have to be American?

not a typical euro softie

dallasmaverickslose
06-14-2013, 11:50 AM
Why does he have to be American?

We have yet to have a big euro center/pf that can consistently bully the paint.

playblair
06-14-2013, 11:51 AM
Jackie Carmichael >>>>>>>
TH5XYJBkJO0

HemisfairArena
06-14-2013, 11:52 AM
Find a way to trade for DeMarcus Cousins and be done with it. Pop can get that kid's head on straight and he's gonna be a beast. He had 36 pts and 22 boards in the last game of the season and he is only 22. His potential is off the charts. A Leonard/Cousins duo would be a hell of a duo to build around for a very long time and both of them are barely in their 20's.

dallasmaverickslose
06-14-2013, 12:06 PM
Find a way to trade for DeMarcus Cousins and be done with it. Pop can get that kid's head on straight and he's gonna be a beast. He had 36 pts and 22 boards in the last game of the season and he is only 22. His potential is off the charts. A Leonard/Cousins duo would be a hell of a duo to build around for a very long time and both of them are barely in their 20's.

Hes too much of a head case. I bet he has more upside than Dwight Howard but with his attitude I don't want him on this team.

SenorSpur
06-14-2013, 12:10 PM
Spurs need to try and move up in the June NBA draft in order to secure a better quality big. Perhaps R.C. and Danny Ferry can work something out.

AaronY
06-14-2013, 12:12 PM
Sacramento isn't trading Cousins for pennies on the dollar which is all we would have to offer unless we threw in Kawhi which would be retarded on our part..

phxspurfan
06-14-2013, 12:15 PM
Yes because thos guys go for cheap and are plentiful in the draft :rolleyes

dallasmaverickslose
06-14-2013, 12:16 PM
Spurs need to try and move up in the June NBA draft in order to secure a better quality big. Perhaps R.C. and Danny Ferry can work something out.

I wouldn't count on that happening but damn that sure would be nice

Dingle Barry
06-14-2013, 12:23 PM
He's not a USAer, but I would love to have Nik Pekovic in silver and black. He's an RFA but I'd expect Minn to match.

dallasmaverickslose
06-14-2013, 12:35 PM
He's not a USAer, but I would love to have Nik Pekovic in silver and black. He's an RFA but I'd expect Minn to match.

I want me some 'murcans

Juggity
06-14-2013, 12:39 PM
Splitter is a fine player, he's just not right for this series. Splitter/Duncan combo worked very well on the western teams with big front lines.

dallasmaverickslose
06-14-2013, 12:45 PM
Splitter is a fine player, he's just not right for this series. Splitter/Duncan combo worked very well on the western teams with big front lines.

We need to have another big ready for the job if splitter isn't going to be a good match up

superjames1992
06-14-2013, 12:47 PM
He's not a USAer, but I would love to have Nik Pekovic in silver and black. He's an RFA but I'd expect Minn to match.
I was just thinking about him being a solution to some of our problems last night. I don't know how realistic of an acquisition it would be, but I'd love it.

dallasmaverickslose
06-14-2013, 12:49 PM
I was just thinking about him being a solution to some of our problems last night. I don't know how realistic of an acquisition it would be, but I'd love it.

Is he a young guy that we can still mold into a spurs type player?

UZER
06-14-2013, 01:33 PM
Spurs need to try and move up in the June NBA draft in order to secure a better quality big. Perhaps R.C. and Danny Ferry can work something out.

I wish but they'll just move up and draft some euro no name to stash away again.

dallasmaverickslose
06-14-2013, 01:34 PM
Are there any stand-out bigs that would be in our range this upcoming draft?

(By "in our range" I'm referring to a big we could either draft at our draft sport, or a big we could trade up for without giving up a whole lot.)

dbestpro
06-14-2013, 01:46 PM
Baynes is the most likely imrpovement we will see at the big for and NBA newbie. Guy has an effective midrange jump shot so he may be better than most expect.

I think the Spurs are done with Splitter. It just has not been the right fit for him or the Spurs. I do think right or wrong the Spurs will make a run at Jefferson. He fits the character mode, and Pop will figure out a way to protect his defensive weaknesses.

CosmicCowboy
06-14-2013, 02:17 PM
Splitter could be fine if he would just play with more authority.

http://i.somethingawful.com/u/elpintogrande/november10/t1.gif

There's a pill for that.

BatManu20
06-14-2013, 02:23 PM
Jackie Carmichael >>>>>>>
TH5XYJBkJO0

The guy doing the commentary is fucking retarded. Hope it's not you.

Thomas82
06-14-2013, 02:27 PM
I hope we can find a way to trade up for Rudy Gobert.

Jenks
06-14-2013, 03:00 PM
Baynes is the most likely imrpovement we will see at the big for and NBA newbie. Guy has an effective midrange jump shot so he may be better than most expect.
From what I saw vs Dwight in round 1, Baynes is probably the strongest guy in the NBA and uses it. I really wouldn't mind seeing what he can do, left to just enforce in the paint / clean up the boards.

tesseractive
06-14-2013, 03:04 PM
All we have to do is find a U.S. college standout that will be available with the 28th pick that can play at an All Star level and will be ready to come in and start for us from day one. There isn't much competition for guys like that, so it shouldn't be a problem. :tu

Boomersgold
06-14-2013, 03:13 PM
not a typical euro softie
Baynes isn't American, and from what we've seen of him, he seems to be quite physical in the paint. Guys like Kareem weren't physical centers, and yet they averaged 12+ rebounds at one point in their careers.

Sean Cagney
06-14-2013, 03:15 PM
not a typical euro softie

LOL!!!!!

dallasmaverickslose
06-14-2013, 04:46 PM
The guy doing the commentary is fucking retarded. Hope it's not you.

:lmao

KL2
06-14-2013, 04:49 PM
Baynes is perfect, the problem is Pop doesn't play him, hed make everyone on MIA his bitch. What SA REALLY needs is a damn backup PG! Someone that can run the offense, create plays for others. Manu was the ony other pg on the team but now he's done.

pg's are faaaar easier to acquire than a big man.

dallasmaverickslose
06-14-2013, 06:13 PM
Baynes arrived a little too late into the season to develop.

Captivus
06-14-2013, 06:23 PM
Baynes could play. I mean, I dont think Pop is asking Tiago to score 20 points. Just let him play and get 15 rebounds.
Maybe he can stop those tip-in from Bosh and his the superfriends.
The fact that Mills and TMac are available and not Baynes is amazing to me. Like TMac knows the system better than Baynes. And a playmaker needs to know the system more than a center, so that excuse doesnt make sense.
Baynes is gonna spend years before playing, just like Tiago.
Lets just hope Baynes doenst end up on another team and owns Tiago when we play them.

m33p0
06-14-2013, 06:39 PM
All we have to do is find a U.S. college standout that will be available with the 28th pick that can play at an All Star level and will be ready to come in and start for us from day one. There isn't much competition for guys like that, so it shouldn't be a problem. :tu
for emphasis. they might not know what you mean. sarcasm is wasted on the stupid afterall.

ironman2886
06-14-2013, 06:40 PM
I hope we can find a way to trade up for Rudy Gobert.
He's European, but the guy has size and the longest wingspan I've ever seen. His shot blocking would be elite.

dallasmaverickslose
06-14-2013, 06:40 PM
I suspect Baynes will have a much larger role with the team next season, but he's still pretty raw, talent wise. Wish things were different, but getting acclimated into the Spurs system takes a while.

I suspect that out of Blair, Bonner, Splitter, and Diaw, at least 2 out of the 4 will not be back next season. Just a hunch. Unless they go after a SG in the draft, I suspect the Spurs will draft a big man and sign a decent name in FA.

However, if Timmy retires after this season, throw everything I just said out the window, because I have no idea how the Spurs are going to handle the post-Duncan era.

SanDiegoSpursFan
06-14-2013, 07:10 PM
Yes, we can definitely draft the 7 footer we've all wanted with the 28th pick in the draft and he'll be ready to go by training camp. Because no other team would have use for a big, strong, and skilled 7 footer.

DJR210
06-14-2013, 07:18 PM
Spurs need to try and move up in the June NBA draft in order to secure a better quality big. Perhaps R.C. and Danny Ferry can work something out.

With Neals value up, would you throw him and this years 1st for maybe someone like a Portland or a Minnesota pick in this years?

Thomas82
06-14-2013, 08:28 PM
He's European, but the guy has size and the longest wingspan I've ever seen. His shot blocking would be elite.

He also has a lot of room for his offensive game to grow.

elmanutres
06-14-2013, 08:38 PM
big badass 7 footers is a rarity. most nowadays are pussies. ala dwight howard

SenorSpur
06-14-2013, 09:14 PM
With Neals value up, would you throw him and this years 1st for maybe someone like a Portland or a Minnesota pick in this years?

Boy, it sure is a tempting proposition and something I believe the front office must consider. I realize this team needs to invest in another SG, but getting another young, big in their pipeline - quickly - should be the priority. A young big that possesses the skills necessary to do some of the things Duncan is no longer able to do on a consistent basis and things that Splitter simply isn't capable of doing at all.

There are several project bigs that I'm sure they are interested in, but they all will likely be gone by the time the Spurs pick @ #28. There are several teams looking to trade down and there are even a couple with multiple picks in the first round (ATL, OKC, CLE). If they can work out the principals of a trade with one of those teams, and depending upon which big is available, I'd certainly pull the trigger on such a deal. This would be similar to the George Hill trade, when they moved up to take Kawhi Leonard. If Leonard wouldn't have been on the board, then they would not have done the deal.

I admit I've been hard on Gary Neal and after his NBA Finals performance, his stock has never been higher. I'd love for the Spurs to keep him. However, in order to restock the cupboard, some bold moves must be made.

SpurOutofTownFan
06-14-2013, 09:52 PM
I'm pulling for splitter to do good but I'm just don't know if he's gonna make it happen for us. Blair would have been good but his height just isn't gonna work for us. Anyone else agree that it's time we draft ourselves a big badass UNITED STATES OF AMERICAN that isn't afraid to bully opponents in the paint? I think it's time. Timmy's been the man to fill this role for the longest time, but with his age becoming a factor it's time we give him a player to groom to take his place, because I just don't know if splitter is up to the task, as much as I'd hate to say it.

Are u retarded?

The Whopper
06-14-2013, 10:02 PM
Two wins from a championship and fools is crying about the roster.

dallasmaverickslose
06-14-2013, 10:24 PM
Are u retarded?

Your point?

SpurSpurSpurs
06-15-2013, 12:26 AM
All we have to do is find a U.S. college standout that will be available with the 28th pick that can play at an All Star level and will be ready to come in and start for us from day one. There isn't much competition for guys like that, so it shouldn't be a problem. :tu

You do realize that there are 28 other teams ahead of us, who wants a player you described? Seriously, man?

dallasmaverickslose
06-15-2013, 12:30 AM
You do realize that there are 28 other teams ahead of us, who wants a player you described? Seriously, man?

http://www.troll.me/images/xzibit-yo-dawg/sarcasm-some-dont-know-it-yet.jpg

tesseractive
06-15-2013, 11:53 PM
You do realize that there are 28 other teams ahead of us, who wants a player you described? Seriously, man?

That sound you hear is the "whoosh" as the sarcasm goes flying by way over your head.

SpurSpurSpurs
06-16-2013, 12:39 AM
Question marks... :depressed

Man In Black
06-16-2013, 01:11 AM
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/nba/news/20130614/nba-mock-draft-2013-shabazz-muhammad/

28 Tony Mitchell PF North Texas Sophomore 6-9 236

It's tough to get a read on what direction the Spurs will go here. They could opt for a raw international talent such as Greece's Giannis Adetokunbo or France's Mouhammadou Jaiteh, someone they could stash overseas for a year or two years like Manu Ginobili, Tiago Splitter or Luis Scola. Or they could opt for someone who can play right away. Mitchell doesn't fit the Spurs' mold -- he admitted he didn't always play hard last year at North Texas -- but he is a 6-9, 236-pound man-child with undeniable inside-out skills and tantalizing talent (he compares himself to Denver's Kenneth Faried). Those abilities could make him worth the risk.

Sean Cagney
06-16-2013, 01:28 AM
Two wins from a championship and fools is crying about the roster.

................

playbonner15
06-16-2013, 02:06 AM
Baynes is perfect, the problem is Pop doesn't play him, hed make everyone on MIA his bitch. What SA REALLY needs is a damn backup PG! Someone that can run the offense, create plays for others. Manu was the ony other pg on the team but now he's done.

pg's are faaaar easier to acquire than a big man.

Great take. Play Baynes, get a reliable backup pg. Solves both toughness and money issue.

The Reckoning
06-16-2013, 02:26 AM
i prefer United Statesman tbh

PingPong
06-16-2013, 06:23 AM
Hes too much of a head case. I bet he has more upside than Dwight Howard but with his attitude I don't want him on this team.
Or you get an soft/slow but inteligent and coachable europussie or you get an athletic north-american headcase nigga with low iq bball. You cannot have something that doesn't exist. :lol

benfti
06-16-2013, 07:20 AM
Baynes will play more next season after he has gone though Summer League/Pre Season


solved. without the nationalist crap.

Kidd K
06-16-2013, 07:59 AM
No big badass 7 footers will be available in the draft after like the 12th pick. They're always gone by then even if they only have average upside.

I'm not even sure how the Spurs could trade up in the draft to get a high enough pick to land one unless they're dumping, Parker, Duncan, or Leonard which would be retarded.

dylankerouac
06-16-2013, 08:22 AM
I admit I've been hard on Gary Neal and after his NBA Finals performance, his stock has never been higher. I'd love for the Spurs to keep him. However, in order to restock the cupboard, some bold moves must be made.

Good post. How would a trade with Neal work? I thought his contract is up at the end of the season. Is he an RFA?

CGD
06-16-2013, 09:03 AM
We have yet to have a big euro center/pf that can consistently bully the paint.

He's a euro now?

Raven
06-16-2013, 09:34 AM
We have yet to have a big euro center/pf that can consistently bully the paint.

so the world is divided in USA and Europe?

dallasmaverickslose
06-16-2013, 10:28 AM
Ok, since you guys are going to be terminology nazis...

When I say euro player, I mean INTERNATIONAL player.

CGD
06-16-2013, 11:25 AM
Idk man, I dont see it as an international v US born thing so much as modern players seem entitled and have lofty expectations that are unsupported by their track records. Things changed in that direction the day of the 2003 draft.

DrunkTXLabrat
06-16-2013, 12:08 PM
i like baynes. i'm down to see him get some real rotation next season. i think splitter has improved a lot, i don't see why he would stop improving. timmy is timmy. that's pretty good base. turd towers are the weak link.

i wouldn't mind the spurs pulling off muscala or olynyk to replace bonner, hell, they could keep neal for floor spreading. and draft a freak like gobert or mbakwe. i think that's enough big man depth right there. add in davies, southerland, or thomas looking to be available at the #58 for blair replacement. that's plenty big, international or american. i don't care.
playblair that carmichael dunk is so incredible!