Howard- A Spurs Longshot

[allansy20]

http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2013/06/14/howard-cited-as-spurs-long-shot/


Well here we go again with the rumor mill. But considering how poorly Manu and our other role players are playing this year, as well as no clear "Next Tim Duncan" in line, maybe management opts for this unlikely scenario and makes this possible. :lol

[SenorSpur]

Howard has yet to show proof that he's fully recovered from a serious back injury. Besides all that, he's too expensive, has too many offensive limitations and above all else, he's NOT Spurs material. He's an immature, tempermental wanna-be superstar.

[SpurSpurSpurs]

Howard has yet to show proof that he's fully recovered from a serious back injury. Besides all that, he's too expensive, has too many offensive limitations and above all else, he's NOT Spurs material. He's an immature, tempermental wanna-be superstar.

I know 1 poster who believes that Howard is physically fit. Maybe we can ask that poster to inform PATFO about his knowledge. :lol

[Yuixafun]

I can imagine Pops saying this to Howard "You have been weighed, you have been measured, and you have been found wanting."

[SenorSpur]

I know 1 poster who believes that Howard is physically fit. Maybe we can ask that poster to inform PATFO about his knowledge. :lol

:lol

It's a risky proposition for any team to undertake - and one I can't envision the Spurs making - even if they had the cap space to do so

[yavozerb]

Howard has yet to show proof that he's fully recovered from a serious back injury. Besides all that, he's too expensive, has too many offensive limitations and above all else, he's NOT Spurs material. He's an immature, tempermental wanna-be superstar.
game 1 vs spurs: 20 pts, 15 rbs, 2 blocks
game 2: 16 pts, 9 rbs, 4 blocks
game 3: 25 pts, 11 rbs, 2 blocks
game 4: 7 pts, 8 rbs in 20 minutes prior to ejection

Look, I do not like D howard either, but please do make him out to be a non all star type player. He played 1 on 5 against the spurs and put up some pretty damn good numbers for not being 100% (according to your insight). I agree that he is expensive and immature but making Howard out to be anything lesser than a top 1 or 2 center in the NBA is dumb.

[pgardn]

game 1 vs spurs: 20 pts, 15 rbs, 2 blocks
game 2: 16 pts, 9 rbs, 4 blocks
game 3: 25 pts, 11 rbs, 2 blocks
game 4: 7 pts, 8 rbs in 20 minutes prior to ejection

Look, I do not like D howard either, but please do make him out to be a non all star type player. He played 1 on 5 against the spurs and put up some pretty damn good numbers for not being 100% (according to your insight). I agree that he is expensive and immature but making Howard out to be anything lesser than a top 1 or 2 center in the NBA is dumb.

Kobe was gone. They had no backcourt. His numbers will always look good. But he sees himself as an individual, and he is a mental midget. He is a top big man. But he has to be on the right team. You think the Spurs could bring out the best in him?

No way he comes so it does not matter. Popovich with Howard... I think Dwight would break down.

[exstatic]

game 1 vs spurs: 20 pts, 15 rbs, 2 blocks
game 2: 16 pts, 9 rbs, 4 blocks
game 3: 25 pts, 11 rbs, 2 blocks
game 4: 7 pts, 8 rbs in 20 minutes prior to ejection

Look, I do not like D howard either, but please do make him out to be a non all star type player. He played 1 on 5 against the spurs and put up some pretty damn good numbers for not being 100% (according to your insight). I agree that he is expensive and immature but making Howard out to be anything lesser than a top 1 or 2 center in the NBA is dumb.

game 1: loss
game 2: loss
game 3: loss
game 4: Dwight quits by being ejected. loss

[SpursDynasty21]

The Spurs will need to find a star big man once Duncan retires. Why not try to get Howard?

[mudyez]

no














NO!!!

[exstatic]

The Spurs will need to find a star big man once Duncan retires. Why not try to get Howard?

Physically, he's formidable. Mentally, he's a midget. He's perfect...for the Lakers.
http://www.everyjoe.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/tim-duncan-deal-with-it.gif

[Prime Time]

Lol @ People rejecting Dwight's services. This move would slide SA from "Contenders" To "NBA Favorites

For Duncan- An athletic big who will draw most of the attention, make life easier for Tim
For Parker- Dwight is great at catching the ball, AND he's a powerful finisher inside the paint. So this would help TP's style as well.
For Green- Dwight will get multiple double teams once he starts clicking, this would be a perfect time for Green to shoot open three's
For Leonard- With his improved ball handling/mid range shooting, He'll most likely be a bigger part of Spurs' perimeter presence next year. This will also draw more space for him to work, cause again; Dwight draws multiple double teams.


Spurs are currently 2-2 with in the NBA Finals. A move like this? They'd be simply unguardable. For the first time in Dwight's career, He'd be playing in a legit system where he'll get room to operate and a supporting cast to match his production. Not to mention a great coaching staff to work on his flaws (Shooting, Passing, etc.)

But this would never happen, Dwight will obviously sign in some Big-City with a shitty system and different role players coming yearly.

[BatManu20]

Dwight Howard will never come to SA. Ever. And I'm glad. He's either staying in LA or going to Houston. Dallas and Atlanta are long shots imo.

[DMX7]

Poor Analysis by Dan. Obviously, Splitter wouldn't come back if Howard were signed -- that's a no brainer. Manu likely wouldn't be resigned because must of his money/ball touches would go to Howard instead, and Duncan would be retiring soon, so if they were over the cap, management would likely live with it if it were only for one or two more seasons. Still a long shot though.

[SpurSpurSpurs]

Lol @ People rejecting Dwight's services. This move would slide SA from "Contenders" To "NBA Favorites"

NBA favorites because of his personality, not "Contenders" because of how he performs. I'd give him the benefit of the doubt, only IF Pop gives a thumbs up after assessing his overall game.
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Then again... maybe not. :rolleyes

[SenorSpur]

game 1 vs spurs: 20 pts, 15 rbs, 2 blocks
game 2: 16 pts, 9 rbs, 4 blocks
game 3: 25 pts, 11 rbs, 2 blocks
game 4: 7 pts, 8 rbs in 20 minutes prior to ejection

Look, I do not like D howard either, but please do make him out to be a non all star type player. He played 1 on 5 against the spurs and put up some pretty damn good numbers for not being 100% (according to your insight). I agree that he is expensive and immature but making Howard out to be anything lesser than a top 1 or 2 center in the NBA is dumb.

Excuse me. I never said that Howard was a pedestrian center. I just said that he's not demonstrated that he's fully recovered from his back injury. He lacks his usual explosion that he's famous for - something that I believe makes him a huge risk. I also stated that he's a wannbe-superstar, which is a lot different from being a real one. There's no doubt that he's an upper-echelon player in this league, but until he can put a team on his back and carry them, while demonstrating a better offensive reportoire, I believe he'll simply be nothing better than a perennial an all-star center, without a championship pedigree.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

We need a rebounding big man. It would help us against the West and Miami next year. Plus Pop could get him mentally right. If it doesn't work, Pop would bench him

[exstatic]

We need a rebounding big man. It would help us against the West and Miami next year. Plus Pop could get him mentally right. If it doesn't work, Pop would bench him
Read the second part of my signature. It's a direct quote from Pop. He can't magically "fix" players. That's why they are picky about who they bring on board.

People are assuming Dwight would buy in, and I'm not sure that's a valid assumption. He's immature and gets driven by his posse to leak shit from the locker room when things aren't going his way. You're not going to separate him from them at this point in his career. It's been his business model for years.

The over/under on an anonymous trade request away from SA, if he were to sign here, is about 3 months.

[UZER]

If he by some miracle ends up with the spurs, the same media that has followed him around and put him on an underserved pedestal (just cuz he's in LA) will suddenly talk about how he is the biggest baby, most overrated off season signing this offseason by any team. Then will proceed to ignore the spurs next year as well.

I've mentioned before that signing here would rehabilitate his image and show he wants to learn and grow as a player. But he doesn't want that so he ain't coming here.

[Budkin]

Why are we even discussing this? There is no way in hell Dwight is going to end up on the Spurs. No way.

[elemento]

It's not a longshot, it's a noshot. Howard won't come and i don't really care tbh. Let the drama queen stay in LA.

[EVAY]

The Spurs would never sign Howard because he is incapable of 'getting over himself', which is a requirement to be on the Spurs Roster.

He is just not "Spurs Material". And I'm glad.

[jag]

Only a retard would want Howard on the Spurs.

[admiralsnackbar]

After the shit Howard pulled on Stan Van Gundy, it's clear he's not Spurs material.

[spurraider21]

Chip can teach him the corner 3

[LakerHater]

Spurs are always used as leverage!

[dunkman]

Howard is perfect for the Spurs. RC and Pop will take him in no time, if available. Once Manu and Duncan retire, the Spurs would win more 'ships with Howard, Parker and Kawhi. Danny Green also has potential.

He's definitely not very mature, but I remember when the Grizzlies shopped Gasol and most Spurs fans thought he's not that good.

[Richie]

:lol

It's a risky proposition for any team to undertake - and one I can't envision the Spurs making - even if they had the cap space to do so

If you really think the Spurs would turn down a chance to sign Howard, you're delusional. Once Duncan and Manu retire, we won't be bad enough to draft a top player unless we trade Parker. Teams toil in at the bottom of the league for years hoping for a player as good as Howard, and you think any team would pass him up?

Howard/Parker would keep us as contenders for another 5+ years and could extend Duncans career an additional 2 years. Any team would be foolish to pass on him. If Howard wanted to sign and we turned him down, it would be the Spurs' Sam Bowie moment.

That said, he doesn't want to come to the Spurs. It's a non-starter.

[Anonymous Cowherd]

Only a retard would want Howard on the Spurs.

puh-lease. We'd instantly become favourites for the title. Obviously it won't happen but, come on. We'd be an absolutely terrifying prospect on both ends of the floor.

[DMC]

Howard isn't a person who's gotten over himself. He won't even work on his FTs. He belongs in LA.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Chris Bosh thinks Dwight Howard is mentally soft.

No thanks.

[DMC]

puh-lease. We'd instantly become favourites for the title. Obviously it won't happen but, come on. We'd be an absolutely terrifying prospect on both ends of the floor.

That's what LA thought. How did that work out for them?

Howard is a cancer, he's a scorer sometimes and a defender sometimes, but he's a big douchebag all the time and there are enough bastards running around SA.

[spurraider21]

I'd be glad if we landed him. If it doesn't work we can always flip him. He'll always have a taker willing to throw draft picks/good players for him. Having a true rim protector, shot blocker, and elite rebounder on both ends next to Timmy sounds enticing

heck to all the guys against the theoretical move we could acquire him just for trade bait

[TrainOfThought5]

If we're going to throw away the spurs reputation for immature, wanna be franchise bigmen, i much prefer Cousins.

[DMC]

Jesus the stupid here is overwhelming.

Howard is a spotlight guy. He wouldn't come to SA if the price tag was 40m a year.

No big name free agent will EVER come to SA for a couple of reasons:

1. They cannot call the shots in SA
2. It's not posh enough, no movie stars, no real night clubs, no beaches (unless you consider the cesspool Calaveras Lake to have a beach).

If a big name was genuinely interested in winning a ring, he'd be in SA. He'd have his best shot of winning a ring in SA. It's not their main interest. I cannot blame them. The owners of these clubs are trying to make a profit. Many of them couldn't care less about the ring or the hoopla surrounding it if it's not tied to money in some fashion. These stars want to get paid through endorsements in big markets and they want to have some clout on the team, and they want to play for a coach they trust.

LA, Chicago, NY, Miami, Boston

No other cities will get big name free agents. Not even Dallas or Houston.

LA and Miami will be the preferred locations, with NY being a distant 3rd. Money is in NY, but the lifestyle is in the other two. Nothing is in SA except a winning basketball system and an approach to the game that doesn't include marketing the superstar.

[wildcardX]

Dwight is a great talent but not sure if he can be a team player on or off the court especially by Spurs standards. Duncan and Parker probably won't be able to keep him from causing drama and because he is a superstar his antics will be magnified much more than Jackson's were. Pop will probably lose the rest of his hair trying to teach this guy to play within the system and just say "fuck it" and retire after the season.

[Mal]

Lol, fuck no

[TheGreatYacht]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyaimIsNbsM

[HemisfairArena]

No way Howard becomes a Spur. Not a chance. Hell....Pop even yelled at him in the All Star game.

[spurraider21]

sign him then trade him back to the Lakers for Pau :lol

[Spursmania]

No thanks. Mentally weak midget. Fuck No-he's the opposite of a Spur.

[jimbo]

Only a retard would want Howard on the Spurs.

Because Dwight is worse than Tiago

:rollin:rolleyes:rolleyes:rolleyes:rollin

[dallasmaverickslose]

I'd rather have JaVale McGee than this jackass.

[TheGoldStandard]

Dwight Howard has always been a mental midget but he's had cache wherever he's gone so he can dictate how things go, Not in San Antonio. He'd try to push and Pop would plop his ass on the bench and RC would let him rot there until he got it. He either gets with it and tries or he's used a great trade fodder for a team where we pick up multiple picks and rebuild. I think our staff can actually teach him how to shoot free throws and he'd actually have 2 guys who could teach him something in the post in Timmy and David, legit bigs with championship pedigree.

Won't happen but I don't think it'll be a total failure if it ever happened.

[spurraider21]

Lol lets just be clear. Dwight isn't coming to San Antonio. But since this is hypothetical, it would be nonsense to say you wouldn't want him here. If he doesn't work out he can be dealt at literally any time for elite pieces/draft picks anyway

[itzsoweezee]

lol @ the thought of any team turning down dwight howard. most of you should never post again.

the spurs don't have enough space to sign him anyway, so this is a nonissue.

[TheGoldStandard]

Wouldn't it be some shit if he actually came out and said, "fuck the money I want to win with a real team and considered san Antonio" lol, won't ever happen but that'd probably change a lot of peoples opinions about him and at least show that he's turned a corner.. but again, this won't happen.

[DMC]

Wouldn't it be some shit if he actually came out and said, "fuck the money I want to win with a real team and considered san Antonio" lol, won't ever happen but that'd probably change a lot of peoples opinions about him and at least show that he's turned a corner.. but again, this won't happen.

Yeah, then the good witch of the South comes and sucks everyone's dick and we all cuddle together and baby Jesus brings us to heaven. Wouldn't that change how you all thought about baby Jesus? Wouldn't it be some shit if like OBL was actually alive and he turned up in a Spurs uniform and could sky from the FT line, and was like Manu x Jordan? Then he says "lol I was kidding about 9/11"... bet that would change how you thought of him.

[dg7md]

Tbh if you can get Howard everybody but Duncan, Parker, and Leonard are expendable on the team.

I fully expect a coach like Pop would be a great influence on him.

I'm not the biggest Dwight Howard fan, but if we had Dwight we would have probably swept the Heat because he is truly able to dominate the paint... It's important to look at that side.

[Kidd K]

Howard will never come here. He'd be a big addition, but he just won't come here.

I never perk up when guys list SA as part of their preferred destinations, because it's always a ploy to make people think the Spurs are interested. Normally it's role players doing that shit so other teams think "hey if the Spurs want him, he must be great!', but now even Dwight's doing it.



Tbh if you can get Howard everybody but Duncan, Parker, and Leonard are expendable on the team.

I fully expect a coach like Pop would be a great influence on him.

I'm not the biggest Dwight Howard fan, but if we had Dwight we would have probably swept the Heat because he is truly able to dominate the paint... It's important to look at that side.

I don't think Danny Green is expendable anymore either. He's good, fairly cheap, and has a great attitude.

[jag]

Because Dwight is worse than Tiago

:rollin:rolleyes:rolleyes:rolleyes:rollin

Max contract
Shitty teammate
Difficult to coach
Comes with tons of baggage
Would rather be a star than be a winner


I don't expect GNSF to understand these things.

[elmanutres]

until he grows up and submits and get his shit together then no.

as in, probably not gonna happen as long as pop or RC are around.

[jimbo]

Max contract
Shitty teammate
Difficult to coach
Comes with tons of baggage
Would rather be a star than be a winner


I don't expect GNSF to understand these things.

I'm not gonna bother responding to your points because in general your post is so devoid of any real content that it's just hilarious.

You could write for ESPN.

I don't understand how you can have people who are 10x more talented than you are in understanding the game of basketball say that they want the guy, yet you think you know more than them. It's like the people who try to out diagnose their doctor. :rolleyes

[jag]

You make great points Jimbo. Everything I've seen from Dwight Howard throughout the course of his career leads me to believe he is a winner and a great cornerstone for a franchise.

[Prime Time]

That's what LA thought. How did that work out for them?

Completely different situations. LA Replaced the 2nd/3rd best Center in the league (Bynum) with the 1st.... While SA would just be adding the Best C in the league to a core that's already in the finals.

[dbreiden83080]

WTH would line up to sign this clown in the offseason? Howard is a joke and will never win anything in the league..

[DMC]

Completely different situations. LA Replaced the 2nd/3rd best Center in the league (Bynum) with the 1st.... While SA would just be adding the Best C in the league to a core that's already in the finals.

No, it wouldn't work that way at all. Why do you think LA had to give up the 2nd/3rd best center in the league (1st if you ask me) for Howard? Why not just some scrubs like you're proposing here? We'd have to part with some big pieces and we'd be left with a retiring roster and Howard, who's a crybaby that wouldn't fit into the system and wouldn't stick around.

[Prime Time]

No, it wouldn't work that way at all. Why do you think LA had to give up the 2nd/3rd best center in the league (1st if you ask me) for Howard? Why not just some scrubs like you're proposing here? We'd have to part with some big pieces and we'd be left with a retiring roster and Howard, who's a crybaby that wouldn't fit into the system and wouldn't stick around.

In this scenario Spurs sign Dwight via Free-Agency, No? Or am I missing something..

[dbreiden83080]

Chris Bosh thinks Dwight Howard is mentally soft.

No thanks.

He has absolutely no leadership qualities whatsoever and his offensive game is far too limited..