Mike and Mike - "Lakers will be a threat next year, I dont see the Spurs though"

[TheGreatYacht]

5 minutes ago. they said the Rockets, Lakers, Thunder, Clippers, and Memphis could win the West next year. Then they asked each other "What about San Antonio?" Mike Greenberg responded "No, I absolutely don't see them being contenders im sorry" then they followed by both D riding each other by saying "Im rooting for Miami today, just for a Game 7 and so Lebron's legacy doesn't get crushed because its not fair"

[chapnis]

Heh, heh.

[mudyez]

perfect

[jhfenton]

The Lakers will be somewhere between mediocre and terrible.

[The Reckoning]

it's not fair :cry

[ffadicted]

"Im rooting for Miami today, just for a Game 7 and so Lebron's legacy doesn't get crushed because its not fair"

Was this actually said? lmao "It's not fair"?

[GrandeDavid]

Of course they count out the Spurs. They've been doing it for years. Let them talk about those loser teams while we get our 5th ring. Hilariously irrelevant how NBA goings on is actually talked about while the greatest teams are still playing.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

it's not fair :cry

I know, Cry me a river, beotches.

[Richie]

Eventually they'll be correct. Maybe next year will be when father time catches up to Duncan and Manu falls further.

The media have been calling the Spurs too old since 2007. Nothing new to see.

[J.T.]

The media created this monster and now they are dealing with it. This is what you get for calling a guy "The King" before he even made it to the championship round. I have nothing wrong with people calling LeBron a great player, or even best in the world. A lot of times, he is that good. But his entitled attitude has extended to his teammates, Heat "fans" and of course the media who constantly talks him up.

LeBron James is a great basketball player, but he's not perfect and there aren't five of him on the court at once. He's gotten help from his teammates in the games they've won, so you can't pin this on the Heat's other players like you could the Cavs in 2007. The Spurs have beaten them in the three games they've won. An acquaintance of mine, and I say that loosely because he's a gigantic LeBron dick sucking douchebag, said the Heat let the Spurs win Game 1. Really? They were leading the game for 3 and a half quarters and just let the Spurs seal the game on a clutch run in the 4th? Bet you still have a Cleveland #23 jersey.

Sports aren't fair. Life isn't fair. You work hard and get back what you put into it. Sometimes somebody else puts in more and beats you. That's how it fucking works.

[cutewizard]

The true significance of events seems to be lost....

Basketball is only a game. The true measure of greatness is how you conduct yourself on and off the floor.

Lebron James and people like him cannot be role models for the young. James is too immature, his ego overblown to gigantic proportions. He has NOT done something for Humanity yet, and yet he acts as if he is a god on earth.

This is one of the roots of evil in our society, when the young idolize the wrong people, and think how they act is the human way.

So sad.

[Tbiggums47]

5 minutes ago. they said the Rockets, Lakers, Thunder, Clippers, and Memphis could win the West next year. Then they asked each other "What about San Antonio?" Mike Greenberg responded "No, I absolutely don't see them being contenders im sorry" then they followed by both D riding each other by saying "Im rooting for Miami today, just for a Game 7 and so Lebron's legacy doesn't get crushed because its not fair" These guys are joined at the hip with Colin Cowherd. Lots of wishful thinking...

[John B]

It's not fair after all the hype to lose to so old old team. LOL. What a bunch of whiners.

[rmt]

The media created this monster and now they are dealing with it. This is what you get for calling a guy "The King" before he even made it to the championship round. I have nothing wrong with people calling LeBron a great player, or even best in the world. A lot of times, he is that good. But his entitled attitude has extended to his teammates, Heat "fans" and of course the media who constantly talks him up.

LeBron James is a great basketball player, but he's not perfect and there aren't five of him on the court at once. He's gotten help from his teammates in the games they've won, so you can't pin this on the Heat's other players like you could the Cavs in 2007. The Spurs have beaten them in the three games they've won. An acquaintance of mine, and I say that loosely because he's a gigantic LeBron dick sucking douchebag, said the Heat let the Spurs win Game 1. Really? They were leading the game for 3 and a half quarters and just let the Spurs seal the game on a clutch run in the 4th? Bet you still have a Cleveland #23 jersey.

Sports aren't fair. Life isn't fair. You work hard and get back what you put into it. Sometimes somebody else puts in more and beats you. That's how it fucking works.

Heat were feeling out the Spurs in the 1st game and not playing with any urgency in the 4th quarter because they had held the lead comfortably for the first 3 1/2 quarters. That sense of entitlement/belief in the media buildup works against them when the game gets tight - added pressure creates unnecessary doubt. SAS doesn't have that as nobody expects them to win this series and haven't been building them up for the past 3 seasons.

[KL2]

Even if SA does win the media won't give them much credit, fans are already saying LBJ is choking, his supporting cast is no different than the Cavs etc. when in reality it's taking a whole team to limit Lebron, elite defense from Kawhi/Green, role players stepping up, etc. an entire team effort defensively and offensively that you rarely see.

They'll refuse to acknowledge just how great this team is like they always have, and I'm fine with that.

[exstatic]

SS DD. Nothing to see here. When are we ever considered?

[smaka]

Who cares about these bunch of clowns and their opinion anyways?

We are 3-2 up in the finals. Tonight, we are winning it all. What are they doing today?

:toast

[Twisted_Dawg]

Anybody that thinks the Lakers could win the west next year with Kobe's injury and the problems that team has just lost ALL credibility.

[dunkman]

Three of those teams were first round fodder, and the following season they are going all the way to win the west? The Grizzlies got swept in the WCF, well OKC could be good, time will tell.

While Duncan and Manu could decline, Cory seems to be good, Green could be the finals MVP and Kawhi has improved a lot, even Parker keeps improving. If Dwight has a brain, he will sign with the Spurs as FA.

[hsxvvd]

Lebron's legacy was tainted the minute he left Cleveland. A true champion fights to get his team over the line. It's the only credit I give Jordan, Kobe, Olajuwon, hell I'll even pay it to Dirk.

To me 2012 and any championships he might manage to win in Miami will always have the "*" next to it. It wasn't fought for, the hardships were not endured, and I'm sure deep down.... he knows it too, and when he's career is over... he'll look back and know that any number of championships won in Miami couldn't match what say what might have been in 2007 or a real title earned in Cleveland.

[Jenks]

Lakers, Clippers, OKC, alright they're drinking the gatorade.

But Memphis and Houston? I mean, far better picks than the Lakers, but it just shows how much the media hates the Spurs.

[ShoogarBear]

You have to remember, they work for a network that orders how many times per hour Tim Tebow must be mentioned.

[Baynes]

these kind of shits fuels my being as a spurs' fan :toast

[Gervin44Silas13]

FUCK MIKE AND MIKE..... They should be renamed SUCK AND SWALLOW.......I fucking hate ESPN!!!!!

[texmich]

But its not fair, lol, :madrunWhy cant the spurs just give baby bron his trophy so all can be right in the espn sports world! lol gtfoh. Maybe if espn would get off their knees and quit servicing Lebitch n his friends,like its some college party n they wanna show the super friends they are down for anything, they would see Spurs have some money to work with next year and judging by the front office they have, I am sure the spurs will be just fine and right back in the mix! :flipoff

[Darkwaters]

Lebron better hope Houston isn't competitive in the Western Conference competition. The stigma of him not being able to beat Texas teams might be unbearable if he drops two Finals to San Antonio, one to Dallas and another to Houston!

[eDizzle20]

What's new? The Spurs are typically out of championship contending beginning the year, then all of sudden when the Spurs have the best record mid-season they're good because they have championship experience.

[pgardn]

With all of the unknowns, Dwight Howard, Kobe, Nash, the fact the Lakers won't even listen to D Antoni, they think the Lakers?

They have no idea what kind of team they will be putting on the floor, Mitch Cupcake has no idea....

[UZER]

company men tooting the company horn.

they really cant wait til the spurs are gone forever.

[mrjap2x]

Who are they anyway?

[Harry Callahan]

Mike Greenberg (or Greenburg) - does it really matter? This guy is a tool of the highest order. He thinks he is an expert on the NBA because he covered the Chicago Bulls almost 20 years ago. Because the Spurs succeeded the Bulls, he looked down on them as inferior. He has denegrated the Spurs and looked at them with some kind of disdain for YEARS. He was the biggest bitcher and moaner when Steve Nash flopped in the 2007 playoffs and the bench suspensions occurred. The Spurs win the title and the Spurs (in his mind) did not deserve the championship - the Suns deserved it in his mind. Every time the Spurs have made serious playoff runs the last ten years this fool has looked down on the Spurs. He wanted OKC to beat SA last year because he had a man crush on Durant. He picked against the Spurs EVERY round this playoffs. I doubt he even has watched any Spurs games until the playoffs and his opinions are based on zero knowledge.

Mike Golic is a mouth breathing moron - nothing further on him to really talk about. He can barely speak the English language.

These fools did say they wanted Miami to win because "they want a game 7". I doubt they would say that if Miami was up 3-2. They would be talking about Lebron's legacy and adding to it. These stupid yankees that infest the ESPN Disney monster don't even hide their disdain for the Spurs because they don't follow the marching orders of Mr. Stern and the 5th Avenue NBA office.

If I recall the regular season controversy was in part due to the Miami road game was an ABC or ESPN game. These people don't like that either. Just another reason to hope the Spurs win tonight.

[Keepin' it real]

Who cares about these bunch of clowns and their opinion anyways?



Millions of sports fans. That's why they're on TV and radio to a nationwide audience.

[hsxvvd]

Rooting for game 7.... so we can talk shit for another game. Pointless show.

[Baam]

The real question is will we be better or worse than this year? Most likely worse, they'll have to be very smart/aggressive this offseason if they want to have a shot at repeating.

[Harry Callahan]

Millions of sports fans. That's why they're on TV and radio to a nationwide audience.

I don't think they are particularly talented or interesting. They are just part of a big machine that has an agenda to promote. A wildly successful Spurs franchise is contrary to the ABC/Disney agenda of promoting the divas that populate the Heat/Lakers/Clippers roster.

I have more of a problem with Greenburg because he never gives the Spurs any credit without sounding like it is a begrudging credit.

He may surprise me if the Spurs win the LOBT today or Thursday, but I doubt it. I believe the Spurs run would be more impressive than the Bulls overall due to its longevity - five championships over a 16 year span. I doubt many people would agree with me.

[dbreiden83080]

Whatever....

[dbreiden83080]

The Heat are losing next year no matter what happens tonight or in game 7. The Pacers are licking their chops, the Bulls will be healthy, OKC will be back.. This is it for the Heat no matter what IMO..

[Beaverfuzz]

Which of these things is not like the other...all of the teams mentioned have been fishing, some for quite awhile.

[CGD]

Well if Mike Green berg is saying the Heat will win tonight, that means they'll lose. Dude has an uncanny way of jinxing teams. Here's hoping anyway.

dont think either of them do basketball pretty well, but since they are the flagship ESPN radio show they tend to have good analysts. PJ, AJ, and DRob has been on a few times now. I actually really enjoy when the have Doug Collins on, he's good. Van Pelt and Russilo are the best for hoops.

[Kidd K]

On First Take, they're even sitting there talking about they think Popovich will "rest his guys" :lmao and are predicting a "huge blowout win" for Miami.

Gimmie a break. I don't get too annoyed with ESPN's shitty takes very often, but they're going full retard today.


Eventually they'll be correct. Maybe next year will be when father time catches up to Duncan and Manu falls further.

The media have been calling the Spurs too old since 2007. Nothing new to see.

Yeah, this is exactly what they're doing. They're betting against the Spurs' age every year like they've been doing for a long time. It's just a really lazy take.

[Knoxxx]

The true significance of events seems to be lost....

Basketball is only a game. The true measure of greatness is how you conduct yourself on and off the floor.

Lebron James and people like him cannot be role models for the young. James is too immature, his ego overblown to gigantic proportions. He has NOT done something for Humanity yet, and yet he acts as if he is a god on earth.

This is one of the roots of evil in our society, when the young idolize the wrong people, and think how they act is the human way.

So sad.

Great post, it's not whether you win or lose but how you play the game and we have already won that easily.

[Knoxxx]

The rest of the league can keep hoping the Spurs are done but I'll believe it when I see it!

[JR3]

They don't even know how each roster will look this year. The Spurs could improve even more next year... We have come this far with only two good games from Ginobili! Its just not worth even talking about until we at least know the rosters... so many of these teams are due for a good shakeup in their roster... Memphis doesnt even have their coach anymore...

[TheyCallMePro]

Stephen A. Smith just said the Heat would blow the Spurs off the floor if Dwayne Wade was healthy.

What so he wasn't healthy when he scored 33 and 25 the last two games? And what, he's only healthy when the Heat win? Bullshit. It makes me sick listening to these morons. How can they be so ignorant?

ESPN's excuses for the Heat are just pathetic. Thank God I live in San Antonio and live in a hard-working and no excuse environment. Maybe the East coast, ESPN, and everyone else is just soft. Oh well. Fuck them.

[Canibspur]

Was this actually said? lmao "It's not fair"?

Hey man, he is only gonna bring in about $59 million this year. Be nice to him. He doesn't deserve the scrutiny.

[Keepin' it real]

I don't think they are particularly talented or interesting.

That's cool, but it's only your opinion. Just like it's my opinion that I don't think movie director Shalyman M. Night is particularly talented, nor his movies interesting. Doesn't change the fact that millions upon millions of people watch his movies.

So it would be ignorant for me to say "who cares what Shalyman M. Night says about movie making." Just like it didn't make sense for the person I quoted to say "who cares what mike and mike say". Because obviously, millions more people care about what they think than what any of us think.

Regarding Mike and Mike, I happen to like them, except when it comes to the Spurs. When it comes to the Spurs, all the national media (except for Skip Bayless) gets under my skin. But I like sports other than the NBA, and I know Mike and Mike do good work when covering those sports, especially the NFL.

[atoyotagaspedal]

Mike Greenberg doesn't know shit when it comes to basketball, last year during the offseason when the lakers acquired Nash he predicted that the Lakers were winning the Title that year.

[Spurminator]

How anyone can listen to more than 5 minutes of this show is a mystery to me. I used to flip over to ESPN Radio in the morning during commercial breaks on my usual station, but I find the commercials less irritating.

[Crookshanks]

That's cool, but it's only your opinion. Just like it's my opinion that I don't think movie director Shalyman M. Night is particularly talented, nor his movies interesting. Doesn't change the fact that millions upon millions of people watch his movies.

So it would be ignorant for me to say "who cares what Shalyman M. Night says about movie making." Just like it didn't make sense for the person I quoted to say "who cares what mike and mike say". Because obviously, millions more people care about what they think than what any of us think.

Regarding Mike and Mike, I happen to like them, except when it comes to the Spurs. When it comes to the Spurs, all the national media (except for Skip Bayless) gets under my skin. But I like sports other than the NBA, and I know Mike and Mike do good work when covering those sports, especially the NFL.

It's M. Night Shyamalan - I guess you really don't know anything about him - kinda like these ESPN people with the Spurs!

[Keepin' it real]

On First Take, they're even sitting there talking about they think Popovich will "rest his guys" :lmao and are predicting a "huge blowout win" for Miami.

I posted a thread about this a few days ago. I asked what the odds were that Pop would rest his players to give them 3 full days off before game 7. I took the position that the Spurs could have a better shot to win game 7 at 100% rather than playing game 6 at 90%, losing, then playing game 7 at 75% due to 3 games in 5 nights. I heard no rational argument to the contrary, just typical spurstalk venom.

I have to say it was refreshing to see a national expert like Skip Bayless agree with me. I mean, if Pop thinks its a sound strategy to use, then why not use it when it matters the most, the NBA Finals.

[ThaBigFundamental21]

Are you fuckin kidding me???

[Mr Bones]

With Leonard and Green still improving, and enough payroll space to add a free agent or two this summer, no person who really understands basketball would say that the Spurs won't be an elite team next year.

[Mugen]

Mike and Mike seem like nice guys but they can die in the same fiery wreck as Cowherd tbh.

[ThaBigFundamental21]

I posted a thread about this a few days ago. I asked what the odds were that Pop would rest his players to give them 3 full days off before game 7. I took the position that the Spurs could have a better shot to win game 7 at 100% rather than playing game 6 at 90%, losing, then playing game 7 at 75% due to 3 games in 5 nights. I heard no rational argument to the contrary, just typical spurstalk venom.

I have to say it was refreshing to see a national expert like Skip Bayless agree with me. I mean, if Pop thinks its a sound strategy to use, then why not use it when it matters the most, the NBA Finals.

No, absolutely not! I hate to burst your bubble, but it's not happening. This is the NBA Finals, you seize the chance to finish a team when it presents itself. You don't give Miami a win and give them confidence. Anything can happen in a game 7, especially on the road. Right now Miami is doubting themselves, they and the rest of the world assumed they would win game 5 and be up 3-2, headed home. It didn't happen. You could see how upset Lebron was. He was clearly distraught and stressed out. Spoelstra looks beside himself. San Antonio is in Miami's heads right now. Strike while the iron is hot and put them away. Try and finish Miami tonight. Start strong, put the doubt even more firmly in place early on. Then go for the kill.

[Capt Bringdown]

Number one rule of Lakerclub (aka as the mainstream sports media): Always talk about the Lakers
Q: How can you tell if someone's a Lakerfan?
A: Don't worry, they'll tell you

[boutons_deux]

holy shit, blow game6 on the road, to be better rested for game7? In the Finals, play every game to win.

[ThaBigFundamental21]

Mike and Mike seem like nice guys but they can die in the same fiery wreck as Cowherd tbh.

I actually used to like to listen to COWARD, you see what I did there? I don't agree with him much, but he has his opinions and sticks with them. I respect that. But for some reason, he keeps kicking the Spurs, and I'm getting real sick of it. I dunno what they have to do to make him shut up. Well obviously win this damn thing. But the Spurs have led this whole series and have kept on punching Miami in the mouth. It's still not good enough. I so want the Spurs to win this one, so damn bad. We all do. This will be so big in the legacy of our team. The legacy of Tim, Manu, Tony. But for Tim this firmly puts him in the top 10, even the haters HAVE to put him in. The believers then put him into the top 5! Kick em while they are down San Antonio, finish Miami!!!

[ducks]

lakers have lots of question
I would see how questions are answered before picking

[Keepin' it real]

It's M. Night Shyamalan - I guess you really don't know anything about him - kinda like these ESPN people with the Spurs!

:lol

[dbreiden83080]

Stephen A. Smith just said the Heat would blow the Spurs off the floor if Dwayne Wade was healthy.

What so he wasn't healthy when he scored 33 and 25 the last two games? And what, he's only healthy when the Heat win? Bullshit. It makes me sick listening to these morons. How can they be so ignorant?

ESPN's excuses for the Heat are just pathetic. Thank God I live in San Antonio and live in a hard-working and no excuse environment. Maybe the East coast, ESPN, and everyone else is just soft. Oh well. Fuck them.

Enough with the healthy shit it's June this is the finals nobody is healthy. These teams have played 100 games by now.. STFU already with the "IF" babble..

[spurs10]

Mike and Mike...as interesting as their names.

[703 Spurz]

5 minutes ago. they said the Rockets, Lakers, Thunder, Clippers, and Memphis could win the West next year. Then they asked each other "What about San Antonio?" Mike Greenberg responded "No, I absolutely don't see them being contenders im sorry" then they followed by both D riding each other by saying "Im rooting for Miami today, just for a Game 7 and so Lebron's legacy doesn't get crushed because its not fair"

Well since those two are NBA historians and know all there is to know about the league, I guess SA better win tonight b/c apparently next year they have no chance.

[703 Spurz]

Even if SA does win the media won't give them much credit, fans are already saying LBJ is choking, his supporting cast is no different than the Cavs etc. when in reality it's taking a whole team to limit Lebron, elite defense from Kawhi/Green, role players stepping up, etc. an entire team effort defensively and offensively that you rarely see.

They'll refuse to acknowledge just how great this team is like they always have, and I'm fine with that.

Works for me. I've not once ever been concerned about the media giving the Spurs props. What good does it do us as fans anyway? Mike Greenberg says nice things about the Spurs have they win the title and that's supposed to make me feel happier than I'd already be?

Get the fuck out of here

[703 Spurz]

It makes me sick listening to these morons. How can they be so ignorant?

So.....then.....don't?

[jstep13]

The key to fandom happiness in life? Never ever listen to the media when it comes to the Spurs. They will never EVER give full credit to the Spurs. Never. They'll throw crumbs from time to time when it's in their best interest to do so, like to hype the finals, but will never give full credit.

[Brazil]

Like I give a shit

[Harry Callahan]

KIR
"A national expert like Skip Bayless?" That invalidates everything you post!!!!!!!! SB is a babbling fool. I don't care if he supposedly "Likes" the Spurs. It is all an act, my friend. There is no substance to Bayless.... It's all about getting ratings at any cost. He is well compensated, but that does not change the fact that he is a miserable human being. I live in the Dallas area and saw his act here before he "got famous". He spreads lies and fabrications about people.

As far as M&M in the Morning.....Millions of people may watch or listen to them. Millions of people watch Jersey Shore too. I don't think either show is very good.

You suggest tanking a game in the NBA finals to rest players, from the start, when you can close out a series? What are you on? The SA Spurs may never be in this position EVER AGAIN. How ignorant are you? Are you a sheep?

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Same shit, different year.

When are the Spurs going to get any credit for their play?

[Harry Callahan]

If the SAS wins this, all those ESPN guys will use the 24 hour rule. They'll talk about it for one day because they have to, and move on to the Dwight Howard story. They want the Spurs to go away, plain and simple.

[Baam]

KIR
I don't care if he supposedly "Likes" the Spurs. It is all an act, my friend.

So you're saying that he actually doesn't like them. People should get over themselves and stop benig so damn paranoid with the national media. Skip is great and has better takes than a lot of "hardcore" Spurs fans.

[dbestpro]

When will they learn that you get burned by touching a hot stove. You think the media would finally have enough Spur scars to stop doubting. They truly are a disfigured lot.

[DPG21920]

Y'all are ridic sensitive. I listened to the show and this thread op is very misleading.

[Spurs 4 The Win]

No, absolutely not! I hate to burst your bubble, but it's not happening. This is the NBA Finals, you seize the chance to finish a team when it presents itself. You don't give Miami a win and give them confidence. Anything can happen in a game 7, especially on the road. Right now Miami is doubting themselves, they and the rest of the world assumed they would win game 5 and be up 3-2, headed home. It didn't happen. You could see how upset Lebron was. He was clearly distraught and stressed out. Spoelstra looks beside himself. San Antonio is in Miami's heads right now. Strike while the iron is hot and put them away. Try and finish Miami tonight. Start strong, put the doubt even more firmly in place early on. Then go for the kill.

Agreed. Anyone who thinks we should rest our players in GAME 6 of the NBA FINALS is doing some serious meth. If we did that and lost the series, it would be talked about as the biggest backfire in NBA history.

[Baam]

Agreed. Anyone who thinks we should rest our players in GAME 6 of the NBA FINALS is doing some serious meth. If we did that and lost the series, it would be talked about as the biggest backfire in NBA history.

Then again Pop gave up in the Finals with more than 5 minutes left so you can't completely dismiss it. Pop likes to do this kind of thing.

[ffadicted]

I posted a thread about this a few days ago. I asked what the odds were that Pop would rest his players to give them 3 full days off before game 7. I took the position that the Spurs could have a better shot to win game 7 at 100% rather than playing game 6 at 90%, losing, then playing game 7 at 75% due to 3 games in 5 nights. I heard no rational argument to the contrary, just typical spurstalk venom.

I have to say it was refreshing to see a national expert like Skip Bayless agree with me. I mean, if Pop thinks its a sound strategy to use, then why not use it when it matters the most, the NBA Finals.

> Skip Bayless
> Expert

:lol

> Close out Finals Game
> Resting Players

:rollin

[superjames1992]

5 minutes ago. they said the Rockets, Lakers, Thunder, Clippers, and Memphis could win the West next year. Then they asked each other "What about San Antonio?" Mike Greenberg responded "No, I absolutely don't see them being contenders im sorry" then they followed by both D riding each other by saying "Im rooting for Miami today, just for a Game 7 and so Lebron's legacy doesn't get crushed because its not fair"
FTL.

[Harry Callahan]

Bayless may "like" them to some extent, but when the Lakers were about to play the Spurs (when they were in an injury funk) he was ready to write them off to lose in the first round.

My point is that Bayless is performing the role of a contrarian on a TV show. Given what I know about Skip Bayless and how he conducts himself (especially when he worked in Dallas), I have no idea if he is genuine in his beliefs/statements. He was really a guy with few friends (if any) at pretty much all the newspapers and radio stations in Dallas where he worked by the time he left town for good in the mid 1990s. I heard NOTHING but bad things about Skip.

I just hope SA can finish these guys - it'll be kind of funny to hear all the excuses to come from Bristol, CT. It may not happen, but we'll see.

[dbestpro]

Sweaty palms at ESPN. I wonder how many psychics will lose their job with a Spurs win?

[Viva Las Espuelas]

The true significance of events seems to be lost....

Basketball is only a game. The true measure of greatness is how you conduct yourself on and off the floor.

Lebron James and people like him cannot be role models for the young. James is too immature, his ego overblown to gigantic proportions. He has NOT done something for Humanity yet, and yet he acts as if he is a god on earth.

This is one of the roots of evil in our society, when the young idolize the wrong people, and think how they act is the human way.

So sad.

Preach!

[SA210]

Dumbest piece of shit motherfuckers on sports television, I swear

[SA210]

I really hope we add someone to the lineup this summer so we can have a chance at repeating if we win this year.

[beallionaire]

Mike and Mike seem like nice guys but they can die in the same fiery wreck as Cowherd tbh.

LOL tobias would be proud

[Vito Corleone]

Keep this in mind. None of these guys believe the crap they say, they are just saying what the corporate marketing people tell them to say. I've even heard them mention this from time to time. When they talk about the Spurs rating go down.

[coyotes_geek]

:madrun National media doesn't think Spurs will be as good as Spur fan does. Spur fan outraged! Story at 10:00. :madrun

[Gervin44Silas13]

Mike and Mike

New name

Suck and Swallow!!!!!

[Horse]

Fuck that little pussy and that fat fuck. I loved seeing that piece of shit after notre dame lost in the national championship.

[spurraider21]

LOL tobias would be proud
Tobias, an analyst/therapist. Aka analrapist

[johnpaulwall21]

These clowns know nothing about basketball in general. They know kobe and LeBron. Their takes are cringe worthy and ignorant. Im surprised if anyone actually watches that filth.

[SA210]

5 minutes ago. they said the Rockets, Lakers, Thunder, Clippers, and Memphis could win the West next year. Then they asked each other "What about San Antonio?" Mike Greenberg responded "No, I absolutely don't see them being contenders im sorry" then they followed by both D riding each other by saying "Im rooting for Miami today, just for a Game 7 and so Lebron's legacy doesn't get crushed because its not fair"


:lmao:rollinJust hand the trophy to Lebron, not bc he earned it, but just bc it's Lebron and it wouldn't be fair to him.

[mercos]

I'm ok with them shitting on the Spurs, its to be expected. But to say the Lakers will be a threat next year? Its looking more and more like the Lakers will be in rebuilding mode next year. Kobe is going to miss major time and probably won't be the same when he returns. Dwight already has his bags packed. The Lakers have a better chance of winning the Draft Lottery than they do contending. Terrible basketball take from guys that clearly don't pay attention.

[scramby eggs]

The media created this monster and now they are dealing with it. This is what you get for calling a guy "The King" before he even made it to the championship round. I have nothing wrong with people calling LeBron a great player, or even best in the world. A lot of times, he is that good. But his entitled attitude has extended to his teammates, Heat "fans" and of course the media who constantly talks him up.

LeBron James is a great basketball player, but he's not perfect and there aren't five of him on the court at once. He's gotten help from his teammates in the games they've won, so you can't pin this on the Heat's other players like you could the Cavs in 2007. The Spurs have beaten them in the three games they've won. An acquaintance of mine, and I say that loosely because he's a gigantic LeBron dick sucking douchebag, said the Heat let the Spurs win Game 1. Really? They were leading the game for 3 and a half quarters and just let the Spurs seal the game on a clutch run in the 4th? Bet you still have a Cleveland #23 jersey.

Sports aren't fair. Life isn't fair. You work hard and get back what you put into it. Sometimes somebody else puts in more and beats you. That's how it fucking works.

Exactly right. His sense of entitlement can be seen every time he cries to the officials. I understand players complaining to the refs, but do so at a dead ball or timeout. His whining has directly led to Spurs points

[DAF86]

If they trully think what they said then they're retarded, the Spurs will be good no matter Manu/Tim's retirement/decline.

[beallionaire]

Tobias, an analyst/therapist. Aka analrapist


HAHA i believe ill be wearing my never-nude cut offs under my spurs shorts tonight for the game

[DMC]

The true significance of events seems to be lost....

Basketball is only a game. The true measure of greatness is how you conduct yourself on and off the floor.

Lebron James and people like him cannot be role models for the young. James is too immature, his ego overblown to gigantic proportions. He has NOT done something for Humanity yet, and yet he acts as if he is a god on earth.

This is one of the roots of evil in our society, when the young idolize the wrong people, and think how they act is the human way.

So sad.

When you're worshiped by the masses and you have a 200' tall picture of your face on the side of the largest coliseum in the city, you're going to probably develop a god complex. Blame it on the public who worshiped him since he was in grade school. Driving a Hummer with gold rims and TVs in the headrest in HS when your a child of a single parent in a poverty stricken neighborhood isn't going to induce humility into a child.

[BillMc]

Mike and Mike know nothing about the NBA. They're not too bad with the NFL, but otherwise they have nothing of interest to say.

[ThaBigFundamental21]

Then again Pop gave up in the Finals with more than 5 minutes left so you can't completely dismiss it. Pop likes to do this kind of thing.

LIE. There was 3 minutes and some change. Stop it. We were getting worked. The Heat were pulling away. I did want Pop to wait until about 2 minutes before pulling the plug. But your 5 minute post is a god damn lie.

[sexinthatsx]

...but it's not fair!
...but Lebron took a pay cut to assemble this superteam!
...but this is Lebron's only chance to form a legacy!
...but Lebron actually plays defense!
...but Lebron this...
...but Lebron that...

Someone call this guy a Waaaaaambulance

[Baam]

LIE. There was 3 minutes and some change. Stop it. We were getting worked. The Heat were pulling away. I did want Pop to wait until about 2 minutes before pulling the plug. But your 5 minute post is a god damn lie.

Actually the clock said 7:35 left in game 2 when he gave up and 4min in game 4.

He did give up in the Finals with more than 5 minutes left, a lot more.

[Sean Cagney]

Who cares, get #5 while these bozos talk about next year and walk off into the Sunset!

[milkyway21]

5 minutes ago. they said the Rockets, Lakers, Thunder, Clippers, and Memphis could win the West next year. Then they asked each other "What about San Antonio?" Mike Greenberg responded "No, I absolutely don't see them being contenders im sorry" then they followed by both D riding each other by saying "Im rooting for Miami today, just for a Game 7 and so Lebron's legacy doesn't get crushed because its not fair"

It won't be fair for the 'best player in the world to lose 2x to Tim Duncan . He'll be just like Malone to Michael Jordan :lol

[Kidd K]

I posted a thread about this a few days ago. I asked what the odds were that Pop would rest his players to give them 3 full days off before game 7. I took the position that the Spurs could have a better shot to win game 7 at 100% rather than playing game 6 at 90%, losing, then playing game 7 at 75% due to 3 games in 5 nights. I heard no rational argument to the contrary, just typical spurstalk venom.

I have to say it was refreshing to see a national expert like Skip Bayless agree with me. I mean, if Pop thinks its a sound strategy to use, then why not use it when it matters the most, the NBA Finals.

If you got venom it was because it's a dumb idea dude.

Only a fool would throw away a game 6 just to "have a slightly better chance" in game 7. If you throw away game 6, the Heat get to rest by not having to play as hard too. You realize that don't you? By throwing away game 6 you pretty much cut your chances of winning a title in half and double the Heat's odds. Heat get a free win then only need to really fight for one more. Then the Spurs lose one of their two chances. It's a terrible, terrible idea.

You rest guys during the regular season so they're rested for the postseason, not in the NBA Finals when you're one win away from winning a title. >_>

[callo1]

The media created this monster and now they are dealing with it. This is what you get for calling a guy "The King" before he even made it to the championship round. I have nothing wrong with people calling LeBron a great player, or even best in the world. A lot of times, he is that good. But his entitled attitude has extended to his teammates, Heat "fans" and of course the media who constantly talks him up.

LeBron James is a great basketball player, but he's not perfect and there aren't five of him on the court at once. He's gotten help from his teammates in the games they've won, so you can't pin this on the Heat's other players like you could the Cavs in 2007. The Spurs have beaten them in the three games they've won. An acquaintance of mine, and I say that loosely because he's a gigantic LeBron dick sucking douchebag, said the Heat let the Spurs win Game 1. Really? They were leading the game for 3 and a half quarters and just let the Spurs seal the game on a clutch run in the 4th? Bet you still have a Cleveland #23 jersey.

Sports aren't fair. Life isn't fair. You work hard and get back what you put into it. Sometimes somebody else puts in more and beats you. That's how it fucking works.

^^^^^^^^^^^
This

[hater]

awesome :tu :tu

who the fuck are mike n mike?

sound like a couple of gays to me IMO

nothing wrong with that btw

[chrhawk]

These are the same guys that said Golden State was the better team after two games, then David Robinson and Sean Elliott came on their show and set them straight. Them and most of the other ESPN personalities believe when the Heat win it's because their competition didn't stand a chance and when they lose it's because they weren't trying.

[ThaBigFundamental21]

BTW, Mike and Mike are idiots. The Lakers??? Kobe one year older. It's likely he still plays well, but the achilles? could slow him down. Nash is ancient, you can't really take Nash serious anymore. Dwight, if he stays. If Dwight leaves, the Lakers are probably a 35 win team. Those guys just need to shut up. The chemistry issue isn't going anywhere soon. Meta Word Peace? Does he get amnestied??? If not, he is just another year older. Gasol isn't getting any younger. The team struggled this season, next year I don't see anything getting magically better. Especially not with D'antoni. The Lakers will probably implode IMHO, if he stays as coach. The Lakers have so many question marks.

As for the Spurs, the Spurs are likely to have some money. We are going to add someone who can help. Which direction we go, that's a wait and see scenario.

[Mark in Austin]

regardless of what happens these last 2 games, I relish the thought of a SA-OKC series next year. W/o Harden, OKC isn't the same team, no matter what their record states.

[ThaBigFundamental21]

regardless of what happens these last 2 games, I relish the thought of a SA-OKC series next year. W/o Harden, OKC isn't the same team, no matter what their record states.

Yep, we know that. A lot of folks know that. Only the Spurs detractors really believe the Thunder are as good without arguably their 2nd best player.

[BeakersBro]

As much as I like their show - they can't even spell "NBA". They are football guys.

[Keepin' it real]

If you got venom it was because it's a dumb idea dude.

Only a fool would throw away a game 6 just to "have a slightly better chance" in game 7. If you throw away game 6, the Heat get to rest by not having to play as hard too. You realize that don't you? By throwing away game 6 you pretty much cut your chances of winning a title in half and double the Heat's odds. Heat get a free win then only need to really fight for one more. Then the Spurs lose one of their two chances. It's a terrible, terrible idea.

You rest guys during the regular season so they're rested for the postseason, not in the NBA Finals when you're one win away from winning a title. >_>

Believe me, I understand what you're saying.

Let's see how it plays out. If the Spurs win tonight, then of course even considering resting the starters will be viewed as a bad idea. But if the Spurs lose and Tim/Manu look drained and subsequently play poorly in game 7, or if Tony's hamstring gives out tonight, then people will question whether Pop should have rested his star players, knowing their advanced age (Tim/Manu) and questionable health (Tony).

The emotional part of me says play everyone big minutes and win the title tonight. The practical part of me says for this specific Spurs team, resting the starters is not as dumb of an idea as you might think.

What will piss me off more than anything is if everyone plays, but then Pop pulls them out at the first sign of significant adversity (double-digit lead, for example). If everyone's gonna play, then play them. Don't give up. That would accomplish nothing.

[DejuanorwhatDude]

Believe me, I understand what you're saying.

Let's see how it plays out. If the Spurs win tonight, then of course even considering resting the starters will be viewed as a bad idea. But if the Spurs lose and Tim/Manu look drained and subsequently play poorly in game 7, or if Tony's hamstring gives out tonight, then people will question whether Pop should have rested his star players, knowing their advanced age (Tim/Manu) and questionable health (Tony).

The emotional part of me says play everyone big minutes and win the title tonight. The practical part of me says for this specific Spurs team, resting the starters is not as dumb of an idea as you might think.

What will piss me off more than anything is if everyone plays, but then Pop pulls them out at the first sign of significant adversity (double-digit lead, for example). If everyone's gonna play, then play them. Don't give up. That would accomplish nothing.

Under no circumstances would any coach rest any starter if all they had to do was win one game, if they're at all healthy. The only bigger stage is if the Spurs don't win tonight.

[ohmwrecker]

Neither one of those guys know dick about basketball, but the Spurs will not be this good next year if they stand pat.

[Hoops Czar]

Mike and Mike know nothing about the NBA. They're not too bad with the NFL, but otherwise they have nothing of interest to say.

Unless they're dissing your team.

[GSH]

I read the comments this morning - I didn't expect this much response. You guys do realize that they are admitting that they think the Spurs got this Championship? That's the reason they've already moved on to pissing on their NEXT season. They think this one is out of reach.

"Okay, fine... the Spurs are going to win the Championship this year. But they aren't going to repeat."

[KaiRMD1]

I lost it with the "it's not fair" comment :lmao

[Kidd K]

Believe me, I understand what you're saying.

Let's see how it plays out. If the Spurs win tonight, then of course even considering resting the starters will be viewed as a bad idea. But if the Spurs lose and Tim/Manu look drained and subsequently play poorly in game 7, or if Tony's hamstring gives out tonight, then people will question whether Pop should have rested his star players, knowing their advanced age (Tim/Manu) and questionable health (Tony).

The emotional part of me says play everyone big minutes and win the title tonight. The practical part of me says for this specific Spurs team, resting the starters is not as dumb of an idea as you might think.

What will piss me off more than anything is if everyone plays, but then Pop pulls them out at the first sign of significant adversity (double-digit lead, for example). If everyone's gonna play, then play them. Don't give up. That would accomplish nothing.

I don't think losing in game 6 in any way would prove that they should have tanked the game. You have to go all out every game at this point in the playoffs. You can't take it for granted. If the Spurs "rested" for game 6 then lost game 7, it would go down as the dumbest coaching decision in NBA history. They would have just thrown the title away.

If Parker's hamstring goes out tonight, that doesn't mean it wouldn't have in 2 days. Honestly, nothing that'd happen tonight could prove that Pop could've rested guys and thrown away the game. And I really don't think much of anybody will question why Pop didn't rest the guys. You simply cannot throw away one of your two chances to win a title just for a perceivably better chance in the last game.

Hate to be so hard on you man, but in no reality can I see resting your stars when you're up 3-2 in the Finals just to be slightly more rested for game 7 being a good idea. You're just throwing away two chances for one, giving the Heat all their confidence back, and putting even more pressure on the Spurs to win game 7.

[rascal]

If the SAS wins this, all those ESPN guys will use the 24 hour rule. They'll talk about it for one day because they have to, and move on to the Dwight Howard story. They want the Spurs to go away, plain and simple.

Why should they talk about it anymore then 24 hours, no story line. The Spurs with the same core have won before, people just don't care.

[Cane]

The Mike Brown and Mike D'Antoni show was pretty entertaining

[rascal]

"Okay, fine... the Spurs are going to win the Championship this year. But they aren't going to repeat."

You have that right. No way they even get to the finals next year.

[SpursDynasty21]

That show just lost all credibility by saying this.

[bluebellmaniac]

Greenberg and Golic can talk intelligently about the NFL and MLB, but it is very obvious when the topic of the NBA comes up that neither really has a clue as to what is going on, which teams are good or who's having a good year (etc). They have a third guy (I forget his name) who they refer to for input on the NBA. When the Knicks had a 3 or 4 game winning streak he tried to put them up there as a threat to the Heat. The vast majority of what they have to say about the NBA is for the sole purpose of pandering to the large market teams. They are there to make BSPN money, so don't expect them to jump on a small market bandwagon.

We're okay without their uninformed support.