Chuck Barkley agrees with Zimmerman trial verdict

[irishock]

http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1265193


BARKLEY: I feel sorry that young kid got killed, but they didn’t have enough evidence to charge them. Something clearly went wrong that night. Clearly something went wrong, and I feel bad for anybody who loses a kid. But if you looked at the case and you don’t make it — there was some racial profiling, no question about it. But something happened that changed the dynamic of that night. And I know, and that’s probably not a popular opinion among most people, but just looking at the evidence I agree with the verdict.…
I just feel bad because I don’t like when race gets out in the media, because I don’t think the media has a pure heart, as I call it. There are very few people have a pure heart when it comes to race. Racism is wrong in any, shape, form. There are a lot of black people who are racist too. I think sometimes when people talk about racism they act like only white people are racist. There are a lot of black people who are racist. And I don’t like when it gets out there in the media because I don’t think the media has clean hands. I don’t think the media has clean hands.
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And, like I said, I feel sorry that young kid got killed, but just judging by the evidence, I don’t think that guy should have went to jail for the rest of his life, because something happened bad that night obviously.
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And let me say, Mr. Zimmerman was wrong to, he was racial profiling.
BARTIROMO: Absolutely.
BARKLEY: But I think Trayvon Martin, God rest his soul, I think he did flip the switch and start beating the hell out of Mr. Zimmerman. But it was just a bad situation. And like I said, the main thing I feel bad for, it gives every white person and black person who is racist a platform to vent their ignorance.

god bless this nigga

[AchillesHeel]

Damn, this nigga has no idea what's coming to him. He'll get disowned by the black race.

[MeloHype]

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[Thread]

He's always been a racist, but, he's under the protection of Media.

He'll also enter his house ringless.

[Captivus]

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[Koolaid_Man]

Damn, this nigga has no idea what's coming to him. He'll get disowned by the black race.


He already really has...Allen Iverson shut him down yrs ago when he criticized A.I for his style...A.I told him he's never done a single thing to help a single black person and Barkley shut the fuck up real quick...it's disgusting to think that you can racially profile a kid, then criminally profile a kid, start shit with that kid, and then kill the kid... I said it b4 and I'll say it again. Racheal Jeantel might be an uneducated dumb looking black teen but I believe her 100%. Her portrayal of Trayvon as calling this guy a creepy cracka and also nigga showed balance if nothing else. She could have painted Trayvon in nothing but a glowing light but she didn't. She told it like she heard it...When she also said she heard Trayvon yell get off me there's no doubt in my mind that Zim approached him and in his wanna be cop mode tried to detain him because without knowing Trayvon he already thought the kid was a criminal...but once he tried to detain or grab Trayvon he got a quick punch to the face from a kid who already knew he was following him and was likely scared as hell...remember Trayvon was 16 yrs old and 20 days...he thought and acted like a kid that age.

Zim would have rational and reasonable minded people like Kool believe that this skinny kid with Candy and Tea, talking to his girlfriend on the phone the whole time while trying to get back home to finish watching the NBA All-Star game, who knew he was being followed and was likely scared, all of a sudden turned into an enraged gangsta killer, jumping out of the bushes, circling his car, reaching into his pockets as if he had a gun, and telling him he's going to die tonight. :lol It's completely laughable...the reason he told that story is because he needed to turnTrayvon into a criminal in order to justify the murder. If Trayvon wasn't a criminal then he knew he would be found guilty so he made this complete fabrication of a story up and everything that Zim did to this kid he turned it around to make Trayvon a criminal. If Zim has no gun with the intention of using it he simply does not stalk the kid in the night..No sane person is going to follow-up a "criminal" in the night unless they're ready to use deadly force in my world it simply doesn't happen. Zim knew if all else failed he had the great equalizer. His gun with the safety off...

Listen I've seen a lot fights in my day...whether in school, college, in the MMA ring, and on the streets and I will say this...he likely grabbed the kids arm as was stated by Racheal Jeantel...He then received a quick and single punch to the nose from Trayvon and then he immediately reached for his gun...Trayvon saw him reaching for it and that's when the struggle started...(now I've listened to my parents many legal cases over the years and I know all about the anatomy of a fight)...once they started struggling they went to the ground and Trayvon was yelling for help...why? Because he was trying to prevent this guy from getting hold of his gun...they were on the ground in life or death moment, Zim hit his head on the sidewalk but the struggle over the gun continued. Trayvon was still yelling up because he was desperate to prevent him from getting that gun. Zim was able to finally get it and fire close range while Trayvon was still on top.

It was calculated and well aimed and right where he wanted it...Zim said he was unsure if the shot hit Trayvon at first...but he didn't fire a 2nd shot and once the first shot was fired the screaming for help stopped immediately. If he's unsure he shot him why didn't he fire again and why did he stop screaming for help at the moment of the first shot...why? Because Zim (the man with the gun) was never yelling for help...he had his weapon (the great equalizer) and didn't need help...he didn't shoot a second time because he knew he hit the kid right where he wanted...again for those of you inexperienced in fighting and real confrontation this is the anatomy of it...and this is likely the real story of how Zim got away with murder...

Sure there's way too much black on black crime...(and white on white for that matter) but this is more than about crime this is about the majority in this country (advocating gun rights) thinking it's ok to murder blacks of any age because of your own personal perceptions. You're insane if you really believe this happens to a white kid walking home..he would not have been racially profiled to begin with. Listen I'm all for racial profiling but here's the problem with it....when you do it and you fuck up (like Zim did) you should have to pay the ultimate price. Youi shouldn't be allowed to profile the wrong person, kill that person, and claim self-defense. It's a complete malfeasance of Justice and it's a no brainer Eric Holder will have no choice but to go after Zim on civil rights charges....it must be done...

As a kid I was once Trayvon walking home in my hoodie, and any number of whites could have approached me and done the same thing...My heart will always go out to the kid ..

PS: :hat People in this country have more LOVE and sympathy for the white kid that killed and maimed (via bomb) all those people in Boston more than they do Trayvon...quiet an indictment on the true morality of 'God fearing Christians' in this country

Charles Barkley can take his disgusting fat ass straight to hell where's his soul is already waiting...and if you disagree with anything I've typed today I dare you to challenge me intellectually on any of my points...I'm 100% confident and certain there's not a single person on this board or anywhere else than can win this argument against me on reasonable doubt of Zim's account...I wish I were prosecuting this case...

Now carry on with your trolling....

[MeloHype]

He already really has...Allen Iverson shut him down yrs ago when he criticized A.I for his style...A.I told him he's never done a single thing to help a single black person and Barkley shut the fuck up real quick...it's disgusting to think that you can racially profile a kid, then criminally profile a kid, start shit with that kid, and then kill the kid... I said it b4 and I'll say it again. Racheal Jeantel might be an uneducated dumb looking black teen but I believe her 100%. Her portrayal of Trayvon as calling this guy a creepy cracka and also nigga showed balance if nothing else. She could have painted Trayvon in nothing but a glowing light but she didn't. She told it like she heard it...When she also said she heard Trayvon yell get off me there's no doubt in my mind that Zim approached him and in his wanna be cop mode tried to detain him because without knowing Trayvon he already thought the kid was a criminal...but once he tried to detain or grab Trayvon he got a quick punch to the face from a kid who already knew he was following him and was likely scared as hell...remember Trayvon was 16 yrs old and 20 days...he thought and acted like a kid that age.

Zim would have rational and reasonable minded people like Kool believe that this skinny kid with Candy and Tea, talking to his girlfriend on the phone the whole time while trying to get back home to finish watching the NBA All-Star game, who knew he was being followed and was likely scared, all of a sudden turned into an enraged gangsta killer, jumping out of the bushes, circling his car, reaching into his pockets as if he had a gun, and telling him he's going to die tonight. :lol It's completely laughable...the reason he told that story is because he needed to turnTrayvon into a criminal in order to justify the murder. If Trayvon wasn't a criminal then he knew he would be found guilty so he made this complete fabrication of a story up and everything that Zim did to this kid he turned it around to make Trayvon a criminal. If Zim has no gun with the intention of using it he simply does not stalk the kid in the night..No sane person is going to follow-up a "criminal" in the night unless they're ready to use deadly force in my world it simply doesn't happen. Zim knew if all else failed he had the great equalizer. His gun with the safety off...

Listen I've seen a lot fights in my day...whether in school, college, in the MMA ring, and on the streets and I will say this...he likely grabbed the kids arm as was stated by Racheal Jeantel...He then received a quick and single punch to the nose from Trayvon and then he immediately reached for his gun...Trayvon saw him reaching for it and that's when the struggle started...(now I've listened to my parents many legal cases over the years and I know all about the anatomy of a fight)...once they started struggling they went to the ground and Trayvon was yelling for help...why? Because he was trying to prevent this guy from getting hold of his gun...they were on the ground in life or death moment, Zim hit his head on the sidewalk but the struggle over the gun continued. Trayvon was still yelling up because he was desperate to prevent him from getting that gun. Zim was able to finally get it and fire close range while Trayvon was still on top.

It was calculated and well aimed and right where he wanted it...Zim said he was unsure if the shot hit Trayvon at first...but he didn't fire a 2nd shot and once the first shot was fired the screaming for help stopped immediately. If he's unsure he shot him why didn't he fire again and why did he stop screaming for help at the moment of the first shot...why? Because Zim (the man with the gun) was never yelling for help...he had his weapon (the great equalizer) and didn't need help...he didn't shoot a second time because he knew he hit the kid right where he wanted...again for those of you inexperienced in fighting and real confrontation this is the anatomy of it...and this is likely the real story of how Zim got away with murder...

Sure there's way too much black on black crime...(and white on white for that matter) but this is more than about crime this is about the majority in this country (advocating gun rights) thinking it's ok to murder blacks of any age because of your own personal perceptions. You're insane if you really believe this happens to a white kid walking home..he would not have been racially profiled to begin with. Listen I'm all for racial profiling but here's the problem with it....when you do it and you fuck up (like Zim did) you should have to pay the ultimate price. Youi shouldn't be allowed to profile the wrong person, kill that person, and claim self-defense. It's a complete malfeasance of Justice and it's a no brainer Eric Holder will have no choice but to go after Zim on civil rights charges....it must be done...

As a kid I was once Trayvon walking home in my hoodie, and any number of whites could have approached me and done the same thing...My heart will always go out to the kid ..

PS: :hat People in this country have more LOVE and sympathy for the white kid that killed and maimed (via bomb) all those people in Boston more than they do Trayvon...quiet an indictment on the true morality of 'God fearing Christians' in this country

Charles Barkley can take his disgusting fat ass straight to hell where's his soul is already waiting...and if you disagree with anything I've typed today I dare you to challenge me intellectually on any of my points...I'm 100% confident and certain there's not a single person on this board or anywhere else than can win this argument against me on reasonable doubt of Zim's account...I wish I were prosecuting this case...

Now carry on with your trolling....
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[Arnold Toht]

Nothing wrong with killing a black man.

[Koolaid_Man]

one final point of clarification before I head to the gym...Barkley talks about physical evidence...well let Kool give you the "KEY" piece of physical evidence and in many ways the only piece of physical evidence you need. That Physical evidence is the first lie recorded on tape. It ALL starts with this:


911 Dispatch: "Are you following him?"
Zimmerman: "Yes"
911 Dispatch: "Ok Please don't do that"
Zimmerman: "These Assholes always get away"


Interview on Fox News...


Sean Hannity: "Were you following him"
Zimmerman: "No - I was just going in the same general direction"

^ this right here is the genesis for me...the first lie told...this is the most crucial piece of physical evidence that for whatever reason everyone is simply overlooking. After this first lie will someone tell me on what basis should I believe anything else Zimmerman has to say...No really what's the basis of Zim's account be truthful after this "blatant" lie on Fox News? Any brave souls willing to answer this question honestly...no wait I already know the basis of why you still believe him..:lol this is all I need to know the guy Zim is a joke.

here's an analogy: You ask your wife:


Q - "Did you have sex with your co-worker while I was away for business last weekend?"
A - "No - He came over to the house, we kissed but he only rubbed his tip on the outside but didn't put it in..."

You ask her again next week:


Q- "Did you have sex with your coworker while I was away?"
A - "No we only showered together once, kissed but there was no touching at all"

Do you now believe her change up lie in light of her initial story?

Lie to me please :lol

[lefty]

A lot of butthurt in this thread


Barkley speaking the truth, that's all

[jag]

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[Katherine Robinson]

It is ironic that Charles Barkley, of all people, is one of the few voices of reason amongst black Americans.

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It is ironic that Charles Barkley, of all people, is one of the few voices of reason amongst black Americans.

Please. He's a racist & a race baiter, nothing more. And Media eats this kind of shit greedily. Once again a prime similarity to the Lakers looking to hire a coach after getting Howard last year. Who'd Media lodge in the middle of every short list of 5 or 6 candidates? Stan Van Gundy. The fucks.

[Katherine Robinson]

Please. He's a racist & a race baiter, nothing more. And Media eats this kind of shit greedily. Once again a prime similarity to the Lakers looking to hire a coach after getting Howard last year. Who'd Media lodge in the middle of every short list of 5 or 6 candidates? Stan Van Gundy. The fucks.

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[KingsFanWithoutName]

http://rochester.ynn.com/content/top...tt-not-guilty/

Not guilty: The verdict in the manslaughter trial of Roderick Scott. After more than 19 hours of deliberations over two days, a jury acquitted the Greece man in the shooting death of Christopher Cervini, 17, last April.
"I just want to say thank you to the people who believed in me, who stood by me,” Scott said following the verdict. “I still have my regrets for the Cervini family; it's still an unfortunate situation for them. I am happy that at least this chapter is over."

As deliberations dragged on over two days and the jury asked for testimony to be read back, Scott admits he didn't know how it would all turn out.

"I was nervous of course,” he said. “You never know what direction this whole thing is going to turn, so I have no idea. But it worked out and I feel that justice (was) served today."

Cervini's family members say justice wasn't served. They say Christopher was murdered in cold blood, that he'd never been in trouble and Scott acted as judge, jury and executioner.

"The message is that we can all go out and get guns and feel anybody that we feel is threatening us and lie about the fact,” said Jim Cervini, Christopher’s father. “My son never threatened anybody. He was a gentle child, his nature was gentle, he was a good person and he was never, ever arrested for anything, and has never been in trouble. He was 16 years and four months old, and he was slaughtered."

Scott says he acted in self defense when he confronted Cervini and two others saying they were stealing from neighbors cars. He told them he had a gun and ordered them to freeze and wait for police.

Scott says he shot Cervini twice when the victim charged toward him yelling he was going to get Scott.

"How can this happen to a beautiful, sweet child like that?” asked Cervini’s aunt Carol Cervini. “All he wanted to do was go home. And then for them to say, he was saying, 'Please don't kill me. I'm just a kid,' and he just kept on shooting him."

Scott says the last seven months have been difficult for him and his family. If he could go back to the events in the early morning hours of April 4, there are things he says he would do differently.

"If it meant a person not losing their life, absolutely,” he said. “Would I still have tried to stop what was going on? That I would have done. But if I knew ahead of time that I could do something to help somebody from losing their life, I don't want anyone to lose their life."

Scott says the first thing he was going to do was go home and get a good night sleep. When asked if he'll continue living in his current home, which is just one street away from the Cervini's, he said “for the time being.”







I AM CHRISTOPHER CERVINI

[Seefourdc]

Koolaid delusional as hell. TM suspended from school for 52 days for drugs and violence. Kicked out of both of his parents homes for violence. GF had many texts on her phone about him fighting in underground circles. Profiled or not, that fat dude did not start the fight and that's why he's free.

[Koolaid_Man]

Koolaid delusional as hell. TM suspended from school for 52 days for drugs and violence. Kicked out of both of his parents homes for violence. GF had many texts on her phone about him fighting in underground circles. Profiled or not, that fat dude did not start the fight and that's why he's free.

my examples above are very well thought, articulated and explained...if you can't honestly answer them the admit it...again

After his first lie blatantly told on Fox news (and in the audio and video archives) on what basis should I believe anything else Zimmerman has to say? If you cannot answer that question have a good day...

I don't know what Trayvon had going on his in life outside of that fateful night...but what I do know is that if you want to play tit for tat...what's clear and not in dispute..let me know if you'd prefer me to pull up the information and post it here like I do everything...what's not in dispute is Zimmerman attacking a Police officer and being allowed to attend anger management classes to have the case dropped because his father was a judge...also it's in his criminal record that he attacked and beat up his previous wife / girlfriend...so what makes you think with such a violent past he didn't start this altercation with this kid...

The things you say about Trayvon are excusable as a 15-16 yr old..but the facts about Zimmerman are inexcusable as an adult...attacking a cop and his wife are serious things the jury should have known about...so if these external events cancel each other out...my posts above stand as proof of my logic and you're in no position to challenge anything I've said intellectually.... try again kid - there's pretty much no one on this site smarter than Kool and can intellectually challenge the facts I've laid out...try as you may.. ;-)

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The things you say about Trayvon are excusable as a 15-16 yr old..

He was in the commission of a felony when he was stopped, Kool.

[Koolaid_Man]

actually those who've come to know and hate me know that my style is hitting you with facts...so you post your proof of Trayvon's violent past and I will post my proof of Zimmerman's past...

once again I've one up'd you...and please save me some pictures of Trayvon posing online I suspect that's all you will be able to find....come at me again when you're ready to play chess...

Here are my FACTS:
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/03/27/10894561-zimmerman-accused-of-domestic-violence-fighting-with-a-police-officer?lite


Koolaid_Man

[Katherine Robinson]

He was in the commission of a felony when he was stopped, Kool.

You've nary room, Dale. You commit felony assault on a daily basis.

[Koolaid_Man]

He was in the commission of a felony when he was stopped, Kool.

You're right...trying to get back home to finish watching the All-Star game...:lol but if you're serious you of all people know better than to come at me with a lame game and nothing to back it up...you personally know what kind of nigga I am so act like it... '-)

[Thread]

You've nary room, Dale. You commit felony assault on a daily basis.

- "You have to hit 'em once in a while, show 'em who's boss."

- Eric Roberts - "The Pope of Greenwich Village"

[Thread]

You're right...trying to get back home to finish watching the All-Star game...:lol but if you're serious you of all people know better than to come at me with a lame game and nothing to back it up...you personally know what kind of nigga I am so act like it... '-)

Yeah, I'm serious, he body slammed Zimmerman, broke his nose and bashed his head into the cement. I'd shoot the bastard too if I was armed.

[spurraider21]

at some point, is the anti-fox news sentiment reaching a bit?

[Trill Clinton]

He already really has...Allen Iverson shut him down yrs ago when he criticized A.I for his style...A.I told him he's never done a single thing to help a single black person and Barkley shut the fuck up real quick...it's disgusting to think that you can racially profile a kid, then criminally profile a kid, start shit with that kid, and then kill the kid... I said it b4 and I'll say it again. Racheal Jeantel might be an uneducated dumb looking black teen but I believe her 100%. Her portrayal of Trayvon as calling this guy a creepy cracka and also nigga showed balance if nothing else. She could have painted Trayvon in nothing but a glowing light but she didn't. She told it like she heard it...When she also said she heard Trayvon yell get off me there's no doubt in my mind that Zim approached him and in his wanna be cop mode tried to detain him because without knowing Trayvon he already thought the kid was a criminal...but once he tried to detain or grab Trayvon he got a quick punch to the face from a kid who already knew he was following him and was likely scared as hell...remember Trayvon was 16 yrs old and 20 days...he thought and acted like a kid that age.

Zim would have rational and reasonable minded people like Kool believe that this skinny kid with Candy and Tea, talking to his girlfriend on the phone the whole time while trying to get back home to finish watching the NBA All-Star game, who knew he was being followed and was likely scared, all of a sudden turned into an enraged gangsta killer, jumping out of the bushes, circling his car, reaching into his pockets as if he had a gun, and telling him he's going to die tonight. :lol It's completely laughable...the reason he told that story is because he needed to turnTrayvon into a criminal in order to justify the murder. If Trayvon wasn't a criminal then he knew he would be found guilty so he made this complete fabrication of a story up and everything that Zim did to this kid he turned it around to make Trayvon a criminal. If Zim has no gun with the intention of using it he simply does not stalk the kid in the night..No sane person is going to follow-up a "criminal" in the night unless they're ready to use deadly force in my world it simply doesn't happen. Zim knew if all else failed he had the great equalizer. His gun with the safety off...

Listen I've seen a lot fights in my day...whether in school, college, in the MMA ring, and on the streets and I will say this...he likely grabbed the kids arm as was stated by Racheal Jeantel...He then received a quick and single punch to the nose from Trayvon and then he immediately reached for his gun...Trayvon saw him reaching for it and that's when the struggle started...(now I've listened to my parents many legal cases over the years and I know all about the anatomy of a fight)...once they started struggling they went to the ground and Trayvon was yelling for help...why? Because he was trying to prevent this guy from getting hold of his gun...they were on the ground in life or death moment, Zim hit his head on the sidewalk but the struggle over the gun continued. Trayvon was still yelling up because he was desperate to prevent him from getting that gun. Zim was able to finally get it and fire close range while Trayvon was still on top.

It was calculated and well aimed and right where he wanted it...Zim said he was unsure if the shot hit Trayvon at first...but he didn't fire a 2nd shot and once the first shot was fired the screaming for help stopped immediately. If he's unsure he shot him why didn't he fire again and why did he stop screaming for help at the moment of the first shot...why? Because Zim (the man with the gun) was never yelling for help...he had his weapon (the great equalizer) and didn't need help...he didn't shoot a second time because he knew he hit the kid right where he wanted...again for those of you inexperienced in fighting and real confrontation this is the anatomy of it...and this is likely the real story of how Zim got away with murder...

Sure there's way too much black on black crime...(and white on white for that matter) but this is more than about crime this is about the majority in this country (advocating gun rights) thinking it's ok to murder blacks of any age because of your own personal perceptions. You're insane if you really believe this happens to a white kid walking home..he would not have been racially profiled to begin with. Listen I'm all for racial profiling but here's the problem with it....when you do it and you fuck up (like Zim did) you should have to pay the ultimate price. Youi shouldn't be allowed to profile the wrong person, kill that person, and claim self-defense. It's a complete malfeasance of Justice and it's a no brainer Eric Holder will have no choice but to go after Zim on civil rights charges....it must be done...

As a kid I was once Trayvon walking home in my hoodie, and any number of whites could have approached me and done the same thing...My heart will always go out to the kid ..

PS: :hat People in this country have more LOVE and sympathy for the white kid that killed and maimed (via bomb) all those people in Boston more than they do Trayvon...quiet an indictment on the true morality of 'God fearing Christians' in this country

Charles Barkley can take his disgusting fat ass straight to hell where's his soul is already waiting...and if you disagree with anything I've typed today I dare you to challenge me intellectually on any of my points...I'm 100% confident and certain there's not a single person on this board or anywhere else than can win this argument against me on reasonable doubt of Zim's account...I wish I were prosecuting this case...

Now carry on with your trolling....


damn my nigga...this is a powerful post if i ever seen one

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[spurraider21]

actually those who've come to know and hate me know that my style is hitting you with facts...so you post your proof of Trayvon's violent past and I will post my proof of Zimmerman's past...

once again I've one up'd you...and please save me some pictures of Trayvon posing online I suspect that's all you will be able to find....come at me again when you're ready to play chess...

Here are my FACTS:
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/03/27/10894561-zimmerman-accused-of-domestic-violence-fighting-with-a-police-officer?lite


Koolaid_Man

so we have proof that they both have violent pasts. does that do anything to prove that zimmerman initiated violence on that night? nope. there's no proof that martin did either. still, the burden is on the state to prove GZ guilty, not on zimmerman to prove himself innocent

[Trill Clinton]

one final point of clarification before I head to the gym...Barkley talks about physical evidence...well let Kool give you the "KEY" piece of physical evidence and in many ways the only piece of physical evidence you need. That Physical evidence is the first lie recorded on tape. It ALL starts with this:



Interview on Fox News...


^ this right here is the genesis for me...the first lie told...this is the most crucial piece of physical evidence that for whatever reason everyone is simply overlooking. After this first lie will someone tell me on what basis should I believe anything else Zimmerman has to say...No really what's the basis of Zim's account be truthful after this "blatant" lie on Fox News? Any brave souls willing to answer this question honestly...no wait I already know the basis of why you still believe him..:lol this is all I need to know the guy Zim is a joke.

here's an analogy: You ask your wife:



You ask her again next week:

Do you now believe her change up lie in light of her initial story?

Lie to me please :lol

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[spurraider21]

is the act of changing a story enough to prove that he's guilty, though? or just enough to believe he's guilty

[Katherine Robinson]

- "You have to hit 'em once in a while, show 'em who's boss."

- Eric Roberts - "The Pope of Greenwich Village"

"From hell's heart I stab at thee; for hate's sake I spit my last breath at thee."

- Herman Melville "Moby Dick"

[Koolaid_Man]

Yeah, I'm serious, he body slammed Zimmerman, broke his nose and bashed his head into the cement. I'd shoot the bastard too if I was armed.

stop acting like you're on a period and being all emotional..you usually are fairly level headed but I see you're caught up in the hype like all the other far right loons..memo to anyone challenging Kool... --> if you cannot refute any of my assertions in my earlier posts it calls into question your base level intellect

now you're going to bring out my supreme arrogance...let me try this again... --> after Zimmerman's initial lie that's (not even in dispute) it's recorded (audio and video) why should anything else he says be considered truthful? I would appreciate if you or anyone else would even attempt to answer that fucking question..You will not be allowed to challenge and then spin out of control you will either admit the truth that your internal and deep seated racism and bias allows you to believe Zimmerman after his initial lie or you will simply avoid answering the question and then personally living with that moral failure every time you look in the mirror..

turn a blind eye to the knowldege I've kicked..run to all the far right radio personalities and talk show hosts..none of them can intellectually challenge my premise that Zimmerman racially and then criminally profiled, then stalked, started a physical confrontation, lost the fight, and then shot the kid in misguided revenge... You're pretty fucking pathetic if you attempt to paint the same picture that Zimmerman painted with no proof what-so-ever except the INITIAL LIE that still remains largely ignored...

[HI-FI]

- "You have to hit 'em once in a while, show 'em who's boss."

- Eric Roberts - "The Pope of Greenwich Village"
Lol Dale don't deny it. Pope is an underrated movie though.

"Charlieeeeeee"

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Lol Dale don't deny it. Pope is an underrated movie though.

"Charlieeeeeee"

I love it. The actors are jointly at prime, even the girl.

Just a smidge too intense when they take his thumb. But, the part where they're going in & out of the deli and bread shop then making the sandwich in the park as Paulie is giving forth his expertise on horse breeding. I God's. Charley leans over and pinches Paulie's cheek. It's done with so much caring and genuine feeling.

A great film, it never grows old and you can pick it up anywhere along the way.

And it paints all the characters in different colors. The cop is dirty, but, so what.

[Koolaid_Man]

so we have proof that they both have violent pasts. does that do anything to prove that zimmerman initiated violence on that night? nope. there's no proof that martin did either. still, the burden is on the state to prove GZ guilty, not on zimmerman to prove himself innocent

Since the pasts of these individuals cancel out --> The initial lie (and only lie that we know of ) between both these men was told by Zimmerman...it's what we have on record...so nothing he says after that should be believable in a murder case from any rational thinking person's POV. Again according to Zimmerman Trayvon turned from a kid (16yrs old and 20 days) rushing from the store with candy and tea to finish watching the All-star game..to a thug hiding in bushes, circling his car, saying you're going to die tonight...all the while Zimmerman is chasing him.... lolol how do you fucking clowns justify believing this guy...he committed murder and had to paint a story of a scarey black guy..the problem this time is it was a kid with Skittles and Ice Tea..and fucking racist bastards still beleive this bean - dip wanna be white dude..you all including Cully can go fuck yourselves or act like decent people with a conscience - real talk..or you can just answer my fucking questions if you're able :lol

[MeloHype]

Shut up faggot

[HI-FI]

Strange how Koolaid uses his Homeland_Security account to promote slavery then returns to Koolaid to stir up anti-white sentiment. Well played.

Does anyone know if Zim started the physical fight or could it be Trayvon chimped out on him? The whole thing is a mess but Barkley was refreshingly fair in his take, especially about media stirring racial tensions.

[skut_farkus]

Yeah, I'm serious, he body slammed Zimmerman, broke his nose and bashed his head into the cement. I'd shoot the bastard too if I was armed.

That is it, and that is all

[Trill Clinton]

stop acting like you're on a period and being all emotional..you usually are fairly level headed but I see you're caught up in the hype like all the other far right loons..memo to anyone challenging Kool... --> if you cannot refute any of my assertions in my earlier posts it calls into question your base level intellect

now you're going to bring out my supreme arrogance...let me try this again... --> after Zimmerman's initial lie that's (not even in dispute) it's recorded (audio and video) why should anything else he says be considered truthful? I would appreciate if you or anyone else would even attempt to answer that fucking question..You will not be allowed to challenge and then spin out of control you will either admit the truth that your internal and deep seated racism and bias allows you to believe Zimmerman after his initial lie or you will simply avoid answering the question and then personally living with that moral failure every time you look in the mirror..

turn a blind eye to the knowldege I've kicked..run to all the far right radio personalities and talk show hosts..none of them can intellectually challenge my premise that Zimmerman racially and then criminally profiled, then stalked, started a physical confrontation, lost the fight, and then shot the kid in misguided revenge... You're pretty fucking pathetic if you attempt to paint the same picture that Zimmerman painted with no proof what-so-ever except the INITIAL LIE that still remains largely ignored...

fellow powerful poster, let me piggy back this point with a quote i found:

"
I know that there's been commentary about the fact that the "Stand Your Ground" laws in Florida were not used as a defense in the case.
On the other hand, if we're sending a message as a society in our communities that someone who is armed potentially has the right to use those firearms, even if there's a way for them to exit from a situation, is that really going to be contributing to the kind of peace and security and order that we'd like to see?
And for those who - who resist that idea, that we should think about something like these Stand Your Ground laws, I just ask people to consider, if Trayvon Martin was of age and armed, could he have stood his ground on that sidewalk? And do we actually think that he would have been justified in shooting Mr. Zimmerman, who had followed him in a car, because he felt threatened? And if the answer to that question is at least ambiguous, then it seems to me that we might want to examine those kinds of laws."


fuck chuck barkley!!!http://i43.tinypic.com/2d1u3ya.png

[Trill Clinton]

Since the pasts of these individuals cancel out --> The initial lie (and only lie that we know of ) between both these men was told by Zimmerman...it's what we have on record...so nothing he says after that should be believable in a murder case from any rational thinking person's POV. Again according to Zimmerman Trayvon turned from a kid (16yrs old and 20 days) rushing from the store with candy and tea to finish watching the All-star game..to a thug hiding in bushes, circling his car, saying you're going to die tonight...all the while Zimmerman is chasing him.... lolol how do you fucking clowns justify believing this guy...he committed murder and had to paint a story of a scarey black guy..the problem this time is it was a kid with Skittles and Ice Tea..and fucking racist bastards still beleive this bean - dip wanna be white dude..you all including Cully can go fuck yourselves or act like decent people with a conscience - real talk..or you can just answer my fucking questions if you're able :lol


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIJjK3IV3E0

[D-Wade]

No surprise. Barkley is all over the place racially. Says shit like this and then is the first one up in arms when Kevin Harlan (I think?) said "Now let me send it back to Ernie Johnson and the boys."

[Koolaid_Man]

Trill they're not ready for me...they won the case but these clowns on this forum aren't ready for a guy like Kool to challenge them morally and intellectually...it goes against the grain of what they've been taught their whole lives about black people....it's quite pathetic...but like I said again they run up on me and they're done...If Trayvon had a gun and fired at Zimmerman as soon as Zimmerman approached he would have been justified based on their own twisted logic...lol these fuckers are insane... :lol

[Koolaid_Man]

No surprise. Barkley is all over the place racially. Says shit like this and then is the first one up in arms when Kevin Harlan (I think?) said "Now let me send it back to Ernie Johnson and the boys."

Because Barkley is a boy...he has the intellect of a 15 yr old..listen to how he speaks...he's challenged to say the least...Shaq and Barkley make Kenny look like an Ivy League grad...

[Sean Cagney]

A lot of butthurt in this thread


Barkley speaking the truth, that's all
Yep, and the MEDIA dividing as usual.... Nothing new here and it will never change (Pac said it best years ago on Changes).

[Trill Clinton]

Trill they're not ready for me...they won the case but these clowns on this forum aren't ready for a guy like Kool to challenge them morally and intellectually...it goes against the grain of what they've been taught their whole lives about black people....it's quite pathetic...but like I said again they run up on me and they're done...If Trayvon had a gun and fired at Zimmerman as soon as Zimmerman approached he would have been justified based on their own twisted logic...lol these fuckers are insane... :lol

amen. intellectual dishonesty has been running rampant this entire time by the zimmerman supporters and when faced with cold hard facts, they pull the butthurt and insecure line. have a good workout, fam.

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No surprise. Barkley is all over the place racially. Says shit like this and then is the first one up in arms when Kevin Harlan (I think?) said "Now let me send it back to Ernie Johnson and the boys."

Fuckin' 'eh. The self serving bastard. I'd love to Zimmerman that fat fuck. Brasky too. He deserves it and Double, him too. Red Zero, give him a Zimmerman. I'd do a Trayvon to Amb. That fuck. I hate that SOB.

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Yep, and the MEDIA dividing as usual.... Nothing new here and it will never change (Pac said it best years ago on Changes).

Exactly. Because there is too much money for it to change.

[spurraider21]

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[Koolaid_Man]

Exactly. Because there is too much money for it to change.

it's all about the money theory until your son named Bob gets gunned down by an armed Black neighborhood watchmen...save it man..you're embarrassing yourself...you have nothing by way of reason and sanity to come back at me with except billboards and platitudes...hate to cast you to the side like that..but I don't appreciate deliberate and willful ignorance

[Koolaid_Man]

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If that's all you got....send this response to Larry Elder for me and see if he has the balls to challenge me...:

Apples are apples and Oranges are oranges....if Larry can't explain the only and initial lie by Zimmerman he can continue to be a circus clown....

OJ= Guilty
Zimmerman = Guilty

I ask that Larry come onto to Spur talk and debate the great Kool..if not he can continue his skin bleaching treatments

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it's all about the money theory until your son named Bob gets gunned down by an armed Black neighborhood watchmen...save it man..you're embarrassing yourself...you have nothing by way of reason and sanity to come back at me with except billboards and platitudes...hate to cast you to the side like that..but I don't appreciate deliberate and willful ignorance

Zimmerman isn't even white, Kool. You're being takin' down the primrose path for the sake of the dollar. Me too. We all are. It's topsy turvy. I'm not even topsy this time. It's a false topsy. You are truly turvy. Like you were truly topsy with O.J. and I was truly turvy.

[Dunc n Dave]

now you're going to bring out my supreme arrogance...let me try this again... --> after Zimmerman's initial lie that's (not even in dispute) it's recorded (audio and video) why should anything else he says be considered truthful?

Turn your own "logic" on yourself for a second:

The infamous $500 bet... You were on here swearing up and down you paid up. Later, you flip flopped and admitted you didn't. So... after your initial lie (recorded here in the annals of SpursTalk history) why should anything else YOU say on this board be considered truthful?



Now, can you see the ignorance in your logic? One lie told, does not make someone a liar in ALL THINGS. Whether you PERSONALLY believe it does or not...

[Buddy Mignon]

Because Barkley is a boy...he has the intellect of a 15 yr old..listen to how he speaks...he's challenged to say the least...Shaq and Barkley make Kenny look like an Ivy League grad...


Kool... when two people with bad attitudes cross paths you can always expect the worst. Both Martin and Zimm are on record for using racists remarks. Both have been conditioned to fear and hate one another. That situation was a recipe for disaster the moment Zimm decided to profile the kid and the time Martin decided to profile Zimm. Judging from what little I know about the case it seems Zimm instigated the fight... got his ass whooped and allowed his ego and poor attitude to get the best of him. Personally, I don't understand the outrage over the verdict. The outrage should have been over the refusal to arrest Zimm. The outrage should have been over the prosecutors not choosing at least one black juror. That case was lost the moment the prosecutors decided to only settle for the max sentence.

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I ain't seen you since 6.

[Koolaid_Man]

Zimmerman isn't even white, Kool. You're being takin' down the primrose path for the sake of the dollar. Me too. We all are. It's topsy turvy. I'm not even topsy this time. It's a false topsy. You are truly turvy. Like you were truly topsy with O.J. and I was truly turvy.

don't try to lump our innateness..because they're totally different. OJ was guilty in my family household ever since he was running in the white Bronco (and my father went to school with Johnny Cochran) he was still guilty in our view...

Zim is guilty as sin...

again no bill boards and platitudes (i.e topsy turvy) for me..just real analysis of people with real moral failings based on racial bias...and yes it cuts both ways...

[spurraider21]

If that's all you got....send this response to Larry Elder for me and see if he has the balls to challenge me...:

Apples are apples and Oranges are oranges....if Larry can't explain the only and initial lie by Zimmerman he can continue to be a circus clown....

OJ= Guilty
Zimmerman = Guilty

I ask that Larry come onto to Spur talk and debate the great Kool..if not he can continue his skin bleaching treatments

since when was that "all i've got"

there is zero EVIDENCE (its a legal term, perhaps you've heard of it) to get a CONVICTION on Zimmerman. You're only evidence is "well, his story changed, and the victim is black"
i'm sure your story would come out fuzzy too if you had just escaped a savage beating when your head was being slammed into the pavement

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(and my father went to school with Johnny Cochran)

Jesus Christ, you know everybody!!! I call BS! Just because you live in Los Angeles doesn't mean they're all your gd friends & acquaintances. It's literally impossible.

Every time we have an event take place of prominence and notoriety you know some of the participants. I'm sick and tired of it. You gd gadfly, you.

[spurraider21]

Jesus Christ, you know everybody!!! I call BS! Just because you live in Los Angeles doesn't mean they're all your gd friends & acquaintances. It's literally impossible.

Every time we have an event take place of prominence and notoriety you know some of the participants. I'm sick and tired of it. You gd gadfly, you.

you're finally calling BS on the asian guy that acts black? :lmao

[Buddy Mignon]

Jesus Christ, you know everybody!!! I call BS! Just because you live in Los Angeles doesn't mean they're all your gd friends & acquaintances. It's literally impossible.

Every time we have an event take place of prominence and notoriety you know some of the participants. I'm sick and tired of it. You gd gadfly, you.


I met Al Collins... lol.

[Dunc n Dave]

I ain't seen you since 6.

Been postin up stairs and lurkin here everyday. It's the off season, Cully; and a boring one at that...

[Buddy Mignon]

you're finally calling BS on the asian guy that acts black? :lmao


No.. I'm the Asian guy that acts black that loves curry with paki decent obsessed with cartoons with a small cock.

[HI-FI]

Yep, and the MEDIA dividing as usual.... Nothing new here and it will never change (Pac said it best years ago on Changes).
This. Trayvon was a thug who went ballistic on a trigger happy ass with his own anger issues. Somehow the media is trying to spin this into Radio Raheem's death so they can cover all the fallout. It's all bullshit. Koolaid and his alternate are working both sides per par. Even Koolaid's boy Obama uses this to deflect from watergate-esque shit over Benghazi, NSA, IRS, fast and furious etc... Barkley was right on point about not trusting the media on this.

[Koolaid_Man]

Turn your own "logic" on yourself for a second:

The infamous $500 bet... You were on here swearing up and down you paid up. Later, you flip flopped and admitted you didn't. So... after your initial lie (recorded here in the annals of SpursTalk history) why should anything else YOU say on this board be considered truthful?



Now, can you see the ignorance in your logic? One lie told, does not make someone a liar in ALL THINGS. Whether you PERSONALLY believe it does or not...

So I've actually been waiting for someone to use this as an example....my answer was already que'd up...In fact One LIE does indeed make us a liar in ALL things pertaining to that original lie....so therefore anything related to my bet with DPG should not be believed...everything i say associated with that bet is indeed considered a lie by everyone on this board.... I applaud you for thinking you found a angle of hypocrisy but I've just taken your argument and bolstered my theory on Zimmerman's initial lie... well played by you though..just not good enough

[Trill Clinton]

zimmerman's daddy was white, he belongs to ya'll.

[Koolaid_Man]

Jesus Christ, you know everybody!!! I call BS! Just because you live in Los Angeles doesn't mean they're all your gd friends & acquaintances. It's literally impossible.

Every time we have an event take place of prominence and notoriety you know some of the participants. I'm sick and tired of it. You gd gadfly, you.


Gettng your feelings hurt and laid to bare for all to see will make feel that way...I never said I knew Johhny Cochran..I said my father went to school with him...take your head out of your ass for sec stop being mad because you have no basis to challenge me intellectually..that's what this is all about...man up and give me something concrete or simply shut the fuck up

[Dunc n Dave]

So I've actually been waiting for someone to use this as an example....my answer was already que'd up...In fact One LIE does indeed make us a liar in ALL things pertaining to that original lie....so therefore anything related to my bet with DPG should not be believed...everything i say associated with that bet is indeed considered a lie by everyone on this board.... I applaud you for thinking you found a angle of hypocrisy but I've just taken your argument and bolstered my theory on Zimmerman's initial lie... well played by you though..just not good enough

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[spurraider21]

zimmerman's daddy was white, he belongs to ya'll.

reducing yourself to nothing more but the color of your skin is probably the least you can do if your goal is true equality.

separate and equal doesn't exist. you should know that. if you keep separating yourself, you aren't going to get closer to that dream of equality. just like barack did with his statements today, dividing and conquering. reducing everybody to the color of their skin, something that should be irrelevant is being made more and more relevant by the side that is not benefiting from it.

[Koolaid_Man]

since when was that "all i've got"

there is zero EVIDENCE (its a legal term, perhaps you've heard of it) to get a CONVICTION on Zimmerman. You're only evidence is "well, his story changed, and the victim is black"
i'm sure your story would come out fuzzy too if you had just escaped a savage beating when your head was being slammed into the pavement


hey numnuts...:lol if his head was being slammed into the pavement..he would have either 1.) lost consciousness or 2.) had a fractured and crack cranium..none of which happened...you fucking guys clearly don't live in the real world and have never been in an altercation....lol@ head being slammed...boxer's can barely take punches to the head and yet this guy was being slammed into the concrete and he walked away without going to the hospital...

I say this with no disrespect...but you guys are some backwards ass thinking pecker woods..there's no way that any of you ever stepped foot on a college campus..this level of stupidity and willful ignorance is really off the chain :lol gotdam yall are simply some stupid muthafuckers

[spurraider21]

hey numnuts...:lol if his head was being slammed into the pavement..he would have either 1.) lost consciousness or 2.) had a fractured and crack cranium..none of which happened...you fucking guys clearly don't live in the real world and have never been in an altercation....lol@ head being slammed...boxer's can barely take punches to the head and yet this guy was being slammed into the concrete and he walked away without going to the hospital...

I say this with no disrespect...but you guys are some backwards ass thinking pecker woods..there's no way that any of you ever stepped foot on a college campus..this level of stupidity and willful ignorance is really off the chain :lol gotdam yall are simply some stupid muthafuckers

im currently studying at ucla numnuts. boxers are also professionally trained to beat the shit out people, so you're reaching per par. again, you seem to be dodging the main point i keep bringing up. if you are looking for a court conviction, you will need EVIDENCE. i'll repeat myself for clarity: evidence. is there ANY that is sufficient to convict and incarcerate zimmerman? please, enlighten me

[Koolaid_Man]

Kool... when two people with bad attitudes cross paths you can always expect the worst. Both Martin and Zimm are on record for using racists remarks. Both have been conditioned to fear and hate one another. That situation was a recipe for disaster the moment Zimm decided to profile the kid and the time Martin decided to profile Zimm. Judging from what little I know about the case it seems Zimm instigated the fight... got his ass whooped and allowed his ego and poor attitude to get the best of him. Personally, I don't understand the outrage over the verdict. The outrage should have been over the refusal to arrest Zimm. The outrage should have been over the prosecutors not choosing at least one black juror. That case was lost the moment the prosecutors decided to only settle for the max sentence.

^ I will agree with that..I see reasonableness in that view...unlike the complete and UTTER bullshit Cully is posting...my only problem is that one a (16 yr old) was minding his own business while the other (a 28 yrd old) was staking him...but I agree totally on the prosecution ineptness...appalling

[Koolaid_Man]

im currently studying at ucla numnuts. boxers are also professionally trained to beat the shit out people, so you're reaching per par. again, you seem to be dodging the main point i keep bringing up. if you are looking for a court conviction, you will need EVIDENCE. i'll repeat myself for clarity: evidence. is there ANY that is sufficient to convict and incarcerate zimmerman? please, enlighten me

Lying is EVIDENCE numnuts...obviously you're not studying hard enough at UCLA...Did Trayvon tell a lie? No...Did Zimmerman...Multiple

[Trill Clinton]

reducing yourself to nothing more but the color of your skin is probably the least you can do if your goal is true equality.

separate and equal doesn't exist. you should know that. if you keep separating yourself, you aren't going to get closer to that dream of equality. just like barack did with his statements today, dividing and conquering. reducing everybody to the color of their skin, something that should be irrelevant is being made more and more relevant by the side that is not benefiting from it.

what? who am i separating? zimmerman is white-hispanic, nothing more to it. barack didn't divide an conquer, a mixed race president who amerikkka has labeled as "the first black president":rolleyes spoke from the heart about the realities of today's society. nothing he said was divisive but i expect a lot of butthurt and anger from many whites because of it. white guilt is very real.

[Koolaid_Man]

Yes..Kool is in rare form...taking notes writing names....when yall ready to start answering me in all seriousness...you know thy name..Holla me...but for now..I'm finna slide out and run up in this honey.....and If I've regulated asses in this thread (non pun) it's up to you if you want more upon my return...I'm raw, refined, educated, and simply don't give a fuck. :toast

deuce...

[spurraider21]

what? who am i separating? zimmerman is white-hispanic, nothing more to it. barack didn't divide an conquer, a mixed race president who amerikkka has labeled as "the first black president":rolleyes spoke from the heart about the realities of today's society. nothing he said was divisive but i expect a lot of butthurt and anger from many whites because of it. white guilt is very real.


zimmerman's daddy was white, he belongs to ya'll.

[spurraider21]

Lying is EVIDENCE numnuts...obviously you're not studying hard enough at UCLA...Did Trayvon tell a lie? No...Did Zimmerman...Multiple

so a story changing when the first rendition was told shorty after a fight and shooting, a traumatic event, is sufficient to convict one of murder? :lmao

[HI-FI]

what? who am i separating? zimmerman is white-hispanic, nothing more to it. barack didn't divide an conquer, a mixed race president who amerikkka has labeled as "the first black president":rolleyes spoke from the heart about the realities of today's society. nothing he said was divisive but i expect a lot of butthurt and anger from many whites because of it. white guilt is very real.
so Trill you get this worked up over black on black crime or ongoing slavery in Africa, or is it only non-black on black crime that brings out your inner Biko?

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Yes..Kool is in rare form...taking notes writing names....when yall ready to start answering me in all seriousness...you know thy name..Holla me...but for now..I'm finna slide out and run up in this honey.....and If I've regulated asses in this thread (non pun) it's up to you if you want more upon my return...I'm raw, refined, educated, and simply don't give a fuck. :toast

deuce...

Don't ever come knockin' on our Vegas room door again, uh, motherfucker. No matter how hard you bang,,,no matter how hard she wails you ain't gettin' in and she ain't gettin' out.

Signed with fortification.

- Dale

[Trill Clinton]

its true, he's white *trill shrug*

[Trill Clinton]

so Trill you get this worked up over black on black crime or ongoing slavery in Africa, or is it only non-black on black crime that brings out your inner Biko?

by worked up, do you mean speaking openly about race on forums and offline with my peers? yes i do.

[KaiRMD1]

He already really has...Allen Iverson shut him down yrs ago when he criticized A.I for his style...A.I told him he's never done a single thing to help a single black person and Barkley shut the fuck up real quick...it's disgusting to think that you can racially profile a kid, then criminally profile a kid, start shit with that kid, and then kill the kid... I said it b4 and I'll say it again. Racheal Jeantel might be an uneducated dumb looking black teen but I believe her 100%. Her portrayal of Trayvon as calling this guy a creepy cracka and also nigga showed balance if nothing else. She could have painted Trayvon in nothing but a glowing light but she didn't. She told it like she heard it...When she also said she heard Trayvon yell get off me there's no doubt in my mind that Zim approached him and in his wanna be cop mode tried to detain him because without knowing Trayvon he already thought the kid was a criminal...but once he tried to detain or grab Trayvon he got a quick punch to the face from a kid who already knew he was following him and was likely scared as hell...remember Trayvon was 16 yrs old and 20 days...he thought and acted like a kid that age.

Zim would have rational and reasonable minded people like Kool believe that this skinny kid with Candy and Tea, talking to his girlfriend on the phone the whole time while trying to get back home to finish watching the NBA All-Star game, who knew he was being followed and was likely scared, all of a sudden turned into an enraged gangsta killer, jumping out of the bushes, circling his car, reaching into his pockets as if he had a gun, and telling him he's going to die tonight. :lol It's completely laughable...the reason he told that story is because he needed to turnTrayvon into a criminal in order to justify the murder. If Trayvon wasn't a criminal then he knew he would be found guilty so he made this complete fabrication of a story up and everything that Zim did to this kid he turned it around to make Trayvon a criminal. If Zim has no gun with the intention of using it he simply does not stalk the kid in the night..No sane person is going to follow-up a "criminal" in the night unless they're ready to use deadly force in my world it simply doesn't happen. Zim knew if all else failed he had the great equalizer. His gun with the safety off...

Listen I've seen a lot fights in my day...whether in school, college, in the MMA ring, and on the streets and I will say this...he likely grabbed the kids arm as was stated by Racheal Jeantel...He then received a quick and single punch to the nose from Trayvon and then he immediately reached for his gun...Trayvon saw him reaching for it and that's when the struggle started...(now I've listened to my parents many legal cases over the years and I know all about the anatomy of a fight)...once they started struggling they went to the ground and Trayvon was yelling for help...why? Because he was trying to prevent this guy from getting hold of his gun...they were on the ground in life or death moment, Zim hit his head on the sidewalk but the struggle over the gun continued. Trayvon was still yelling up because he was desperate to prevent him from getting that gun. Zim was able to finally get it and fire close range while Trayvon was still on top.

It was calculated and well aimed and right where he wanted it...Zim said he was unsure if the shot hit Trayvon at first...but he didn't fire a 2nd shot and once the first shot was fired the screaming for help stopped immediately. If he's unsure he shot him why didn't he fire again and why did he stop screaming for help at the moment of the first shot...why? Because Zim (the man with the gun) was never yelling for help...he had his weapon (the great equalizer) and didn't need help...he didn't shoot a second time because he knew he hit the kid right where he wanted...again for those of you inexperienced in fighting and real confrontation this is the anatomy of it...and this is likely the real story of how Zim got away with murder...

Sure there's way too much black on black crime...(and white on white for that matter) but this is more than about crime this is about the majority in this country (advocating gun rights) thinking it's ok to murder blacks of any age because of your own personal perceptions. You're insane if you really believe this happens to a white kid walking home..he would not have been racially profiled to begin with. Listen I'm all for racial profiling but here's the problem with it....when you do it and you fuck up (like Zim did) you should have to pay the ultimate price. Youi shouldn't be allowed to profile the wrong person, kill that person, and claim self-defense. It's a complete malfeasance of Justice and it's a no brainer Eric Holder will have no choice but to go after Zim on civil rights charges....it must be done...

As a kid I was once Trayvon walking home in my hoodie, and any number of whites could have approached me and done the same thing...My heart will always go out to the kid ..

PS: :hat People in this country have more LOVE and sympathy for the white kid that killed and maimed (via bomb) all those people in Boston more than they do Trayvon...quiet an indictment on the true morality of 'God fearing Christians' in this country

Charles Barkley can take his disgusting fat ass straight to hell where's his soul is already waiting...and if you disagree with anything I've typed today I dare you to challenge me intellectually on any of my points...I'm 100% confident and certain there's not a single person on this board or anywhere else than can win this argument against me on reasonable doubt of Zim's account...I wish I were prosecuting this case...

Now carry on with your trolling....

Perhaps ol' sport you should have been the prosecutor

[Sean Cagney]

Exactly. Because there is too much money for it to change.

Damn right!

[Thread]

Damn right!

- "No, we started together and that's how we're gonna end up."

- James Cagney - "Angels with Dirty Faces"

[jimbo]

He already really has...Allen Iverson shut him down yrs ago when he criticized A.I for his style...A.I told him he's never done a single thing to help a single black person and Barkley shut the fuck up real quick...it's disgusting to think that you can racially profile a kid, then criminally profile a kid, start shit with that kid, and then kill the kid... I said it b4 and I'll say it again. Racheal Jeantel might be an uneducated dumb looking black teen but I believe her 100%. Her portrayal of Trayvon as calling this guy a creepy cracka and also nigga showed balance if nothing else. She could have painted Trayvon in nothing but a glowing light but she didn't. She told it like she heard it...When she also said she heard Trayvon yell get off me there's no doubt in my mind that Zim approached him and in his wanna be cop mode tried to detain him because without knowing Trayvon he already thought the kid was a criminal...but once he tried to detain or grab Trayvon he got a quick punch to the face from a kid who already knew he was following him and was likely scared as hell...remember Trayvon was 16 yrs old and 20 days...he thought and acted like a kid that age.

Zim would have rational and reasonable minded people like Kool believe that this skinny kid with Candy and Tea, talking to his girlfriend on the phone the whole time while trying to get back home to finish watching the NBA All-Star game, who knew he was being followed and was likely scared, all of a sudden turned into an enraged gangsta killer, jumping out of the bushes, circling his car, reaching into his pockets as if he had a gun, and telling him he's going to die tonight. :lol It's completely laughable...the reason he told that story is because he needed to turnTrayvon into a criminal in order to justify the murder. If Trayvon wasn't a criminal then he knew he would be found guilty so he made this complete fabrication of a story up and everything that Zim did to this kid he turned it around to make Trayvon a criminal. If Zim has no gun with the intention of using it he simply does not stalk the kid in the night..No sane person is going to follow-up a "criminal" in the night unless they're ready to use deadly force in my world it simply doesn't happen. Zim knew if all else failed he had the great equalizer. His gun with the safety off...

Listen I've seen a lot fights in my day...whether in school, college, in the MMA ring, and on the streets and I will say this...he likely grabbed the kids arm as was stated by Racheal Jeantel...He then received a quick and single punch to the nose from Trayvon and then he immediately reached for his gun...Trayvon saw him reaching for it and that's when the struggle started...(now I've listened to my parents many legal cases over the years and I know all about the anatomy of a fight)...once they started struggling they went to the ground and Trayvon was yelling for help...why? Because he was trying to prevent this guy from getting hold of his gun...they were on the ground in life or death moment, Zim hit his head on the sidewalk but the struggle over the gun continued. Trayvon was still yelling up because he was desperate to prevent him from getting that gun. Zim was able to finally get it and fire close range while Trayvon was still on top.

It was calculated and well aimed and right where he wanted it...Zim said he was unsure if the shot hit Trayvon at first...but he didn't fire a 2nd shot and once the first shot was fired the screaming for help stopped immediately. If he's unsure he shot him why didn't he fire again and why did he stop screaming for help at the moment of the first shot...why? Because Zim (the man with the gun) was never yelling for help...he had his weapon (the great equalizer) and didn't need help...he didn't shoot a second time because he knew he hit the kid right where he wanted...again for those of you inexperienced in fighting and real confrontation this is the anatomy of it...and this is likely the real story of how Zim got away with murder...

Sure there's way too much black on black crime...(and white on white for that matter) but this is more than about crime this is about the majority in this country (advocating gun rights) thinking it's ok to murder blacks of any age because of your own personal perceptions. You're insane if you really believe this happens to a white kid walking home..he would not have been racially profiled to begin with. Listen I'm all for racial profiling but here's the problem with it....when you do it and you fuck up (like Zim did) you should have to pay the ultimate price. Youi shouldn't be allowed to profile the wrong person, kill that person, and claim self-defense. It's a complete malfeasance of Justice and it's a no brainer Eric Holder will have no choice but to go after Zim on civil rights charges....it must be done...

As a kid I was once Trayvon walking home in my hoodie, and any number of whites could have approached me and done the same thing...My heart will always go out to the kid ..

PS: :hat People in this country have more LOVE and sympathy for the white kid that killed and maimed (via bomb) all those people in Boston more than they do Trayvon...quiet an indictment on the true morality of 'God fearing Christians' in this country

Charles Barkley can take his disgusting fat ass straight to hell where's his soul is already waiting...and if you disagree with anything I've typed today I dare you to challenge me intellectually on any of my points...I'm 100% confident and certain there's not a single person on this board or anywhere else than can win this argument against me on reasonable doubt of Zim's account...I wish I were prosecuting this case...

Now carry on with your trolling....

http://ametia.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/fox_zimmerman_laughs_130703c1.gif

[Spursfan092120]

PS: :hat People in this country have more LOVE and sympathy for the white kid that killed and maimed (via bomb) all those people in Boston more than they do Trayvon...quiet an indictment on the true morality of 'God fearing Christians' in this country \
Hold up.... The fuck? You tell me how that motherfucker's white? Second off, you ever heard of Marley Lion? Didn't fucking think so. Who's that? A 17 year old white kid who was shot and murdered by a 30 year old black guy while sitting in the back of his truck, because the black guy wanted to rob him. Marley didn't attack this asshole...he didn't do shit except for sit in the back of his truck, and he was shot and killed. No media...Jacqueline Gardner? Name ring a bell? Naw...white girl who was killed by 3 black men last year for fucking tip money. No media. What about the 13 year old boy in Kansas City, Missouri who was sitting on his porch after school when two black kids he didn't even knew came up to him, doused him in gasoline and set him on fire, saying "this is what you deserve, white boy." Or the black guy in Las Vegas who raped a 38 year old woman and her 10 year old daughter, followed by killing them by smashing their skulls with a hammer. Hell, the day after Trayvon died, two black guys in Detroit abducted a white couple, raped (yes, even the guy), shot, and burned them beyond recognition. Police called it a "random thrill killing." No media on that. But one hispanic/white guy kills a black kid after getting his ass kicked, media was all over it, claiming hate crime, and your panties are in a wad? Shut the fuck up. Oh, and fyi, I'm with the side who said GZ should have stayed the fuck in his car. But don't give me this "poor poor pitiful me shit." Blacks kill blacks and whites kill whites every fucking day..thousands of them. Now you're gonna give a shit about it?

[BatManu20]

http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/george-zimmerman-closeup.jpg

[benefactor]

Don't ever come knockin' on our Vegas room door again, uh, motherfucker. No matter how hard you bang,,,no matter how hard she wails you ain't gettin' in and she ain't gettin' out.

Signed with fortification.

- Dale
The Edict

[spurraider21]

yeah, so it allegedly went like this:
ey i wana fight/kill that kid because he's black, but hold up lemme call the cops first, identify myself, and give them a heads up to get over here quick

[HI-FI]

by worked up, do you mean speaking openly about race on forums and offline with my peers? yes i do.
So do you and your homies talk about blacks killing each other, how blacks sold slaves and continue to do so, or is it primarily about evil whitey, ie The Man?

[TE]

http://ametia.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/fox_zimmerman_laughs_130703c1.gif
:lmao

[Thread]

yeah, so it allegedly went like this:
ey i wana fight/kill that kid because he's black, but hold up lemme call the cops first, identify myself, and give them a heads up to get over here quick

21, again, and again, and again.

[Koolaid_Man]

Don't ever come knockin' on our Vegas room door again, uh, motherfucker. No matter how hard you bang,,,no matter how hard she wails you ain't gettin' in and she ain't gettin' out.

Signed with fortification.

- Dale


Your call!!! Just know you're doing me just like Zimmerman did Trayvon...notice in this thread I hadn't said two words to you, I was minding my own bizness and you engaged me directly with a post....then I defended my views (as rough and raw as I do) and you immediately go nuclear and end the Laker Nation relationship. Same thing Zim did to Trayvon who likewise was minding his own bizness when he was accosted my a rabbid blood thirsty rent-a-cop...you guys never see the folly of your ways. It's always about you and your quintessential , archaic, pre-civil, antiquated, neo-con, misguided, immoral and god-less views. Well guess what...while you have the right to defend your belief system just close the door to that hotel room homie and keep that open glee and joy over the death of an innocent 16 yr old kid locked in their with you. Katie will eventually find a window to jump out of....the landing at the bottom be damned...

Despite your right to utilize your nuclear option to "sever me" instead of pure intellect and facts - make no mistake old friend - I'm far from mad at you, I'm good as Kool always is.. just know it was your call not mine.....I cherish the good times but it's an amicable ending that I will endorse on the basis of reason, sanity, and decency as a human being....and in the midst of your fortified separation if you've learned nothing from Kool ..remember this...at the end of the day I need no shoulders to rub... I was strong upon arrival and will be likewise on my way out...

Why? Here's Why:

8gFa5U6eY9Q

Auld Lang Syne :toast

[Koolaid_Man]

yeah, so it allegedly went like this:
ey i wana fight/kill that kid because he's black, but hold up lemme call the cops first, identify myself, and give them a heads up to get over here quick

actually that's spot on...what he said was... there's a fucking black criminal (WRONG) let me call the police (RIGHT) and let them know what's going on here...wait no wait the criminal (WRONG) will be gone before they arrive...no way I'm letting this criminal (WRONG) get away...I will stop and detain him myself but I won't even identify myself as I approach him he better do exactly as I say or I'll blow him away....Square Biz....

[TE]

Don't ever come knockin' on our Vegas room door again, uh, motherfucker. No matter how hard you bang,,,no matter how hard she wails you ain't gettin' in and she ain't gettin' out.

Signed with fortification.

- Dale


Your call!!! Just know you're doing me just like Zimmerman did Trayvon...notice in this thread I hadn't said two words to you, I was minding my own bizness and you engaged me directly with a post....then I defended my views (as rough and raw as I do) and you immediately go nuclear and end the Laker Nation relationship. Same thing Zim did to Trayvon who likewise was minding his own bizness when he was accosted my a rabbid blood thirsty rent-a-cop...you guys never see the folly of your ways. It's always about you and your quintessential , archaic, pre-civil, antiquated, neo-con, misguided, immoral and god-less views. Well guess what...while you have the right to defend your belief system just close the door to that hotel room homie and keep that open glee and joy over the death of an innocent 16 yr old kid locked in their with you. Katie will eventually find a window to jump out of....the landing at the bottom be damned...

Despite your right to utilize your nuclear option to "sever me" instead of pure intellect and facts - make no mistake old friend - I'm far from mad at you, I'm good as Kool always is.. just know it was your call not mine.....I cherish the good times but it's an amicable ending that I will endorse on the basis of reason, sanity, and decency as a human being....and in the midst of your fortified separation if you've learned nothing from Kool ..remember this...at the end of the day I need no shoulders to rub... I was strong upon arrival and will be likewise on my way out...

Why? Here's Why:

8gFa5U6eY9Q

Auld Lang Syne :toast

The Break-up

[Mal]

Nigga was found with bruised skin on his knuckles beside gunshot wound and the other guy had broken nose and head, and you all think little gangbanger was innocent ?? :lmao

[Thread]

The Break-up

tee, hee.

[Spursfan092120]

actually that's spot on...what he said was... there's a fucking black criminal (WRONG) let me call the police (RIGHT) and let them know what's going on here...wait no wait the criminal (WRONG) will be gone before they arrive...no way I'm letting this criminal (WRONG) get away...I will stop and detain him myself but I won't even identify myself as I approach him he better do exactly as I say or I'll blow him away....Square Biz....
He called because the kid looked shady. Police asked what race he was. He said he was black. Try again. He didn't even bring race into it, the cops did. You do know this is the same guy (Zimmerman) who went against the Sanford Police when they beat a black homeless man for no reason right? Took them to court and went against them. The same police who investigated this case. Yeah, he's racist as fuck. Shut the fuck up..you sound more racist than anyone in here right now by assuming this was racism.

http://dailycaller.com/2012/04/04/zimmerman-demanded-discipline-in-2010-race-related-beating-for-officers-who-investigated-martin-shooting/

[spurraider21]

didn't zimmerman date and take a black girl to prom?

[Koolaid_Man]

Nigga was found with bruised skin on his knuckles beside gunshot wound and the other guy had broken nose and head, and you all think little gangbanger was innocent ?? :lmao

Like I said...you guys have YET to provide this proof of Trayvon being in a gang, burlarizing homes, being a drug deal, being a thug....what you have are some face book pictures of a typical teen going through puberty and the teen yrs....conversely in my arguments against every single one of bitches is simple and I have CONCRETE PROOF and FACTS ON my side...it's irrefutable and not a single one of you morons have disputed it....give me evidence on Trayvon's criminal past while I present to you Zimmerman's past AGAIN....I'm owning the fuck outta you clowns:

Again let me help you out...

Trayvon's Past as a teen (all things I've done and then some) --> 16-year-old and 20 days....(1) suspension from school, (2) marijuana use (3) participation in fights.

Zimmerman's Past as an adult male (well versed in the law) --> (1) July 2005, he was arrested (http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/03/27/10894561-zimmerman-accused-of-domestic-violence-fighting-with-a-police-officer?lite) for “resisting officer with violence.” (http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=5782626) The neighborhood watch volunteer who wanted to be a cop got into a scuffle with cops who were questioning a friend for alleged underage drinking. (2) Zimmerman’s former fiance sought a restraining order against him (http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=1021230) because of domestic violence. (3) Zimmerman's own gotdam cousin Witness No. 9 accused Zimmerman of molesting her when they were children.


Want more from HIS OWN COUSIN check it out --> “I know George. And I know that he does not like black people,” she told a Sanford police officer during a telephone call (http://thegrio.com/2012/07/16/zimmerman-relative-witness-9-accusations/) in which she pleaded for anonymity. “He would start something. He’s a very confrontational person. It’s in his blood. Let’s just say that. I don’t want this poor kid and his family to just be overlooked.” At the end of the call, Witness No. 9 urged the officer to “get character reports from other people and see if he’s ever said anything about black people, about being racist or anything like that because I guarantee you there’s somebody out there who will say it.”

Here's the smoking gun this isn't the Sun Times this is the Washington Post....and many other news outlets reporting....I don't have to make shit up like you fucking clowns do about Trayvon that's all unsubstantiated...Now challenge me again on the merits...Zimmerman is your muthafucking THUG not Trayvon....all of you can suck a dead man's dick...I mean that

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2013/05/28/george-zimmermans-relevant-past/

[Koolaid_Man]

Like I said..thus far no one on this site has the balls to challenge me with facts of this case..when you guys find your great white champion let me know please...so I can continue with the ass kicking

[spurraider21]

Like I said...you guys have YET to provide this proof

:lmao oh the irony

[jeebus]

lol no one giving a fuck a colored gangbanger was killed.

[Double-Up]

Jesus Christ, you know everybody!!! I call BS! Just because you live in Los Angeles doesn't mean they're all your gd friends & acquaintances. It's literally impossible.

Every time we have an event take place of prominence and notoriety you know some of the participants. I'm sick and tired of it. You gd gadfly, you.

Damn, and this is why I haven't snitched on you yet...still got the goods Cully.

[Koolaid_Man]

:lmao oh the irony

I've posted facts irrefutable evidence you can see and read for yourself outside of my own views..you and your friends have done no such thing...you guys are nothing but a gang of weak ass sheeple....it's hilarious to watch you think you're regulating me....I'm an arrogant fuck just like my idol Kobe but I'm smarter than every single one of you fuckers

[Koolaid_Man]

lol no one giving a fuck a colored gangbanger was killed.

Your boy was a fucking molester outed by his own gotdam cousin

[Koolaid_Man]

You guys just can't ever get shit right...supporting a molesting, murdering, wife beating, police assaulting bean---her :lol

[Koolaid_Man]

Man...:lol I'm having my own fucking "own an ass party" up in this bitch!!!

[spurraider21]

I've posted facts irrefutable evidence you can see and read for yourself outside of my own views..you and your friends have done no such thing...you guys are nothing but a gang of weak ass sheeple....it's hilarious to watch you think you're regulating me....I'm an arrogant fuck just like my idol Kobe but I'm smarter than every single one of you fuckers

Remind me of your irrefutable evidence that definitively proves Zimmerman is guilty of 2nd degree murder

[Koolaid_Man]

Remind me of your irrefutable evidence that definitively proves Zimmerman is guilty of 2nd degree murder


Simple...Motive...How Do I know Zim was the aggressor?...Simply put because he was following Trayvon...by default that makes you the aggressor...here's how you know he's guilty of 1st degree murder in my book:

911: Are you following him?
Zimmerman: Yes

Sean Hannity: Were you following him?
Zimmerman: No


^ Basic and simple lie...all it takes is one single thread of sperm to fertilize an egg...ya dig?

Motive: Violent past includes:

arrest for violent assault of a police offer (If he's willing to violently assault a cop Trayvon didn't stand a chance) :toast

domestic abuse of his previous girlfriend who had to get a restraining order

molesting his own cousin

Your in a hole....but the first lie is physical evidence...everything else is corroborating evidence as to his wicked character and nature

[Koolaid_Man]

let me know when you've had enough of me anally wrecking you...this thread is legendary :lol

[Mal]

Your boy was a fucking molester outed by his own gotdam cousin

And Kirby is a rapist with fat 30 mil contract. Does this prove any point ?

[Koolaid_Man]

And Kirby is a rapist with fat 30 mil contract. Does this prove any point ?

stay on point will ya..what Z being a molester proves is that he has a very wicked character....but I noticed how you contentedly left out his violently attacking a police officer and violent domestic abuse case against his ex girlfriend...very slick of you not to mention those KEY pieces that speak to who the real thug was....:lol....violence against cops, beating up his fiance, molesting his cousin, murdering a teen...gotdam what's next

[Trill Clinton]

So do you and your homies talk about blacks killing each other, how blacks sold slaves and continue to do so, or is it primarily about evil whitey, ie The Man?

Yea we talk about all issues that our race faces and give back to the community in a variety of ways.


far as the go to rebuttal of blacks selling slaves, thats somr bullshit and I don't believe it. If you were familiar with the trans athletic slave trade you would know better.

[Spursfan092120]

Like I said...you guys have YET to provide this proof
Burden of proof was on the prosecution, son...not the defense. You don't seem to understand how this works. Are you denying Trayvon beat the fuck out of him? If someone was doing that to you, and you had a gun, and you kept having your face slammed into the concrete, are you gonna shoot him before he kills you? Damn right you are. He should have stayed in his car, yes. No question. But there's no law in following someone unless you act. Trayvon acted...and beat the shit out of Zimmerman. Not saying GZ should have done it, but I guarantee you this, if I was in that situation, and it was coming down to me or him dying, it's gonna be him. I don't see any evidence of anything racial in anything you say, son. That neighborhood had 8 burglaries in the 15 months prior to the Martin situation by young black males. That's why they had a neighborhood watch in the first place. HE HELPED A BLACK HOMELESS MAN AGAINST THE SAME POLICE! Funny thing is, he asked for help from the NAACP, and they shot him down, saying they didn't have the resources to help him.

http://dailycaller.com/2013/05/07/what-the-naacp-can-learn-from-george-zimmerman/

His quote, while he was fighting the police about the beating?
“I would just like to state that the law is written in black and white. It should not and cannot be enforced in the gray for those that are in the thin blue line.”

[Trill Clinton]

They love Zimmerman, kool. I told rhinestone cowboy that he was a pedophile who molested his own cousin and can you believe he said wo what, prove it? I feel sorry for his daughter.

[Pelicans78]

Damn, this nigga has no idea what's coming to him. He'll get disowned by the black race.

He'll just toss them all thru a bar window.

[Pelicans78]

one final point of clarification before I head to the gym...Barkley talks about physical evidence...well let Kool give you the "KEY" piece of physical evidence and in many ways the only piece of physical evidence you need. That Physical evidence is the first lie recorded on tape. It ALL starts with this:


Interview on Fox News...


^ this right here is the genesis for me...the first lie told...this is the most crucial piece of physical evidence that for whatever reason everyone is simply overlooking. After this first lie will someone tell me on what basis should I believe anything else Zimmerman has to say...No really what's the basis of Zim's account be truthful after this "blatant" lie on Fox News? Any brave souls willing to answer this question honestly...no wait I already know the basis of why you still believe him..:lol this is all I need to know the guy Zim is a joke.

here's an analogy: You ask your wife:



You ask her again next week:

Do you now believe her change up lie in light of her initial story?

Lie to me please :lol

I don't think he shouldn't have gotten convicted of murder, but a better prosecution would have convicted him on manslaughter. The prosecution didn't do a good job at all. They just made a shitty case and gave the jury no choice but to give a not guilty verdict.

In fact, maybe they gave the case away.
http://nola.com/opinions/index.ssf/2013/07/did_george_zimmermans_prosecut.html#incart_most-comments

[Koolaid_Man]

Burden of proof was on the prosecution, son...not the defense. You don't seem to understand how this works. Are you denying Trayvon beat the fuck out of him? If someone was doing that to you, and you had a gun, and you kept having your face slammed into the concrete, are you gonna shoot him before he kills you? Damn right you are. He should have stayed in his car, yes. No question. But there's no law in following someone unless you act. Trayvon acted...and beat the shit out of Zimmerman. Not saying GZ should have done it, but I guarantee you this, if I was in that situation, and it was coming down to me or him dying, it's gonna be him. I don't see any evidence of anything racial in anything you say, son. That neighborhood had 8 burglaries in the 15 months prior to the Martin situation by young black males. That's why they had a neighborhood watch in the first place. HE HELPED A BLACK HOMELESS MAN AGAINST THE SAME POLICE! Funny thing is, he asked for help from the NAACP, and they shot him down, saying they didn't have the resources to help him.

http://dailycaller.com/2013/05/07/what-the-naacp-can-learn-from-george-zimmerman/

His quote, while he was fighting the police about the beating?
“I would just like to state that the law is written in black and white. It should not and cannot be enforced in the gray for those that are in the thin blue line.”

Those Daily Caller writers are l-a-c-k-i-n-g..:lol I've been to the site it's a cheap knock off of Huffington Post...:lol The Burden is on the Prosecution....and they did a poor job...doesn't mean based on all the evidence that we know of... much of which was ruled inadmissible provides clear proof of Z's guilt...The jury received the same information I received regarding facts of the case..except I got to see everything whereas the jury was deprived of a ton of shit that shows motive, intent, and the violent history of Zim...the real question you should be asking yourself is this:

If Zim approached Trayvon at night and Tray had a gun could Trayvon shoot and kill Zim for merely approaching or walking up to him....be careful in how you answer because it's a question that is a win win for me no matter how you slice but let me see if you're intellectual enough to see what I'm doing to you :lol

[Spursfan092120]

They love Zimmerman, kool. I told rhinestone cowboy that he was a pedophile who molested his own cousin and can you believe he said wo what, prove it? I feel sorry for his daughter.
I'll be honest, bro...I'm on the side that says GZ should have kept his ass in the car. I just get tired of everyone saying this was racial. Black or white, yellow or brown, if someone's beating my ass and slamming my face into concrete, and I feel my life is threatened, I'm taking them out. Zim was hispanic and white, yet everyone keeps calling him white. He also spent several years with two black girls living in his house, stood up for a black homeless person, and tried to do more for him, but was turned down for help by the NAACP...does that sound like a racist? Was he wrong for getting out of his car? Maybe...but that place had been robbed 8 times in 15 months by young black males...he felt worried...all he did was follow him. Maybe he shouldn't have, but if it was my house in the neighborhood, I can't say I wouldn't do the same. Could you?

[Koolaid_Man]

They love Zimmerman, kool. I told rhinestone cowboy that he was a pedophile who molested his own cousin and can you believe he said wo what, prove it? I feel sorry for his daughter.

Yep....dude fucking round with his own lil cousin..and these bastards supporting him....they have no moral ground to stand on in supporting this guy.,.it's wonderful watching these racist Spur fans go down in flames like this

[Trill Clinton]

I'll be honest, bro...I'm on the side that says GZ should have kept his ass in the car. I just get tired of everyone saying this was racial. Black or white, yellow or brown, if someone's beating my ass and slamming my face into concrete, and I feel my life is threatened, I'm taking them out. Zim was hispanic and white, yet everyone keeps calling him white. He also spent several years with two black girls living in his house, stood up for a black homeless person, and tried to do more for him, but was turned down for help by the NAACP...does that sound like a racist? Was he wrong for getting out of his car? Maybe...but that place had been robbed 8 times in 15 months by young black males...he felt worried...all he did was follow him. Maybe he shouldn't have, but if it was my house in the neighborhood, I can't say I wouldn't do the same. Could you?

Naw I wouldn't follow a stranger. I don't think trayvon was doing anything suspicious but walking whioe black. Once I found out cowardman was a wife beating pedophile he lost what little respect I had for him. Dude is a monster.

[Spursfan092120]

Those Daily Caller writers are l-a-c-k-i-n-g..:lol I've been to the site it's a cheap knock off of Huffington Post...:lol The Burden is on the Prosecution....and they did a poor job...doesn't mean based on all the evidence that we know of... much of which was ruled inadmissible provides clear proof of Z's guilt...The jury received the same information I received regarding facts of the case..except I got to see everything whereas the jury was deprived of a ton of shit that shows motive, intent, and the violent history of Zim...the real question you should be asking yourself is this:

If Zim approached Trayvon at night and Tray had a gun could Trayvon shoot and kill Zim for merely approaching or walking up to him....be careful in how you answer because it's a question that is a win win for me no matter how you slice but let me see if you're intellectual enough to see what I'm doing to you :lol
Kool...first off, Daily Caller isn't the only place you can find those stories..it's just the first one I grabbed. Second, if you really want to play this game, then yeah, he probably could have shot him. The way the stupid ass Stand your Ground laws are, he probably would have gotten away with it. And honestly, he probably would have done it, as the only racist one that night seemed to be Trayvon, calling Zim a "creepy cracker." But if you want to compare one guy approaching another to a guy getting his ass beat, and saying it's the same case, you're out of your mind. I think the Stand your Ground law needs to change...and I think Trayvon should still be alive today..I'm just saying this wasn't about race. I'm saying this was one guy who shot another guy because he felt his life was threatened. Zim was probably worried because of all the burglaries by young black males, but he still should have stayed in his car. I'm not defending GZ for getting out of the car and following..I'm defending him for fighting back when he thought he was going to die.

[Koolaid_Man]

I'll be honest, bro...I'm on the side that says GZ should have kept his ass in the car. I just get tired of everyone saying this was racial. Black or white, yellow or brown, if someone's beating my ass and slamming my face into concrete, and I feel my life is threatened, I'm taking them out. Zim was hispanic and white, yet everyone keeps calling him white. He also spent several years with two black girls living in his house, stood up for a black homeless person, and tried to do more for him, but was turned down for help by the NAACP...does that sound like a racist? Was he wrong for getting out of his car? Maybe...but that place had been robbed 8 times in 15 months by young black males...he felt worried...all he did was follow him. Maybe he shouldn't have, but if it was my house in the neighborhood, I can't say I wouldn't do the same. Could you?

:lol yeah like Trayvon had the latest HOA report on burglaries in the neighborhood he was visiting :lol...you guys as dumb as fuck in your rationale...he aggressively stalked, not followed but stalked the kid...Trayvon started running away (while still on the phone with his girlfriend) and Zim's running in pursuit to find him..it's called aggressive pursuit ok numnuts...Zim thought Tray was a criminal so if he's willing to chase him down...what makes you think he stopped there? especially when he has his weapon and has a violent assault criminal history? According to Ms Jeantel Trayvon said get off and that's the last thing she heard..it's pretty fucking cut and dry to me...Zim's actions (aggressive pursuit) actually PROVES Racheal Jeantel's account tbh

[spurraider21]

...How Do I know Zim was the aggressor?...Simply put because he was following Trayvon...by default that makes you the aggressor...here's how you know he's guilty of 1st degree murder in my book:

911:[/B] Are you following him?
Zimmerman: Yes

Sean Hannity: Were you following him?
Zimmerman: No


^ Basic and simple lie...all it takes is one single thread of sperm to fertilize an egg...ya dig?

Motive: Violent past includes:

arrest for violent assault of a police offer (If he's willing to violently assault a cop Trayvon didn't stand a chance) :toast

domestic abuse of his previous girlfriend who had to get a restraining order

molesting his own cousin

Your in a hole....but the first lie is physical evidence...everything else is corroborating evidence as to his wicked character and nature

a) there was no motive to murder
b) following somebody is not a crime, nor was it enough to be considered being an aggressor in the court of law
c) giving a different story isn't evidence of murder or aggression
d) violent past doesn't matter because Martin equally fits the bill due to his own aggressive history
e) violent past isn't a motive. the violent past wasn't allowed as evidence by the court for either party, so you can stop bringing that up as evidence

however, evidence that suggests martin initiated the fight:
1) only 2 injuries on martin. a bullet wound, and bruised knuckles
2) zimmerman was beat the fuck up. lacerations on the back of his head point to having it beaten on or against pavement

[Spursfan092120]

Naw I wouldn't follow a stranger. I don't think trayvon was doing anything suspicious but walking whioe black. Once I found out cowardman was a wife beating pedophile he lost what little respect I had for him. Dude is a monster.
I don't have respect for GZ either..but I have respect for him defending his right to live. Whether he deserves to live for his past discretions is one thing. But you can't take that into consideration as a juror. GZ wasn't racist...going by other people he was a monster, though...I will agree. He shouldn't have gotten out of his car, but he did...didn't mean Trayvon should have attacked him. And Trayvon was being racist himself...calling GZ a "creepy cracker." Are you ok with that?

[Spursfan092120]

:lol yeah like Trayvon had the latest HOA report on burglaries in the neighborhood he was visiting :lol...you guys as dumb as fuck in your rationale...he aggressively stalked, not followed but stalked the kid...Trayvon started running away (while still on the phone with his girlfriend) and Zim's running in pursuit to find him..it's called aggressive pursuit ok numnuts...Zim thought Tray was a criminal so if he's willing to chase him down...what makes you think he stopped there? especially when he has his weapon and has a violent assault criminal history? According to Ms Jeantel Trayvon said get off and that's the last thing she heard..it's pretty fucking cut and dry to me...Zim's actions (aggressive pursuit) actually PROVES Racheal Jeantel's account tbh
She also said he called him a "Creepy Cracker." Sounds racist to me. Yes, he pursued him...and yes, he was wrong for that. But it was Martin who attacked...and continued attacking. At that point, it came down to a him or me scenario. Life or death, which do you choose? Zim chose life. Zim should be in jail, but not for murder.

[Koolaid_Man]

Kool...first off, Daily Caller isn't the only place you can find those stories..it's just the first one I grabbed. Second, if you really want to play this game, then yeah, he probably could have shot him. The way the stupid ass Stand your Ground laws are, he probably would have gotten away with it. And honestly, he probably would have done it, as the only racist one that night seemed to be Trayvon, calling Zim a "creepy cracker." But if you want to compare one guy approaching another to a guy getting his ass beat, and saying it's the same case, you're out of your mind. I think the Stand your Ground law needs to change...and I think Trayvon should still be alive today..I'm just saying this wasn't about race. I'm saying this was one guy who shot another guy because he felt his life was threatened. Zim was probably worried because of all the burglaries by young black males, but he still should have stayed in his car. I'm not defending GZ for getting out of the car and following..I'm defending him for fighting back when he thought he was going to die.

Listen up kid....You don't get to chase down a lion and then proceed to say ohh wait my my life is in danger....:lol If he thought his life was in danger he would have have "AGGRESSIVELY CHASED"...he wasn't worried about a dam thing because he was ready to shoot the guy...there is nothing in Z's past that warrants giving him the benefit of the doubt after he chased the kid down...you guys are clearly not living in the REAL world..your views further show that you've never been in any type of shit / altercation, or scuffle in your lives..No one who has talk in this theorized and superficial manner that you guys do..yall are living in a fucking peter pan society...very strange all of you fellas

[spurraider21]

I don't have respect for GZ either..but I have respect for him defending his right to live. Whether he deserves to live for his past discretions is one thing. But you can't take that into consideration as a juror. GZ wasn't racist...going by other people he was a monster, though...I will agree. He shouldn't have gotten out of his car, but he did...didn't mean Trayvon should have attacked him. And Trayvon was being racist himself...calling GZ a "creepy cracker." Are you ok with that?
creepy ass* cracka*

but no, racial slurs aren't racist if it's said by a minority, apparently

[DwayneSchintzius]

Zimmerman was innocent fellas, everyone needs to chill on Barkley, he is just talking the truth.

[Koolaid_Man]

a) there was no motive to murder
b) following somebody is not a crime, nor was it enough to be considered being an aggressor in the court of law
c) giving a different story isn't evidence of murder or aggression
d) violent past doesn't matter because Martin equally fits the bill due to his own aggressive history
e) violent past isn't a motive. the violent past wasn't allowed as evidence by the court for either party, so you can stop bringing that up as evidence

however, evidence that suggests martin initiated the fight:
1) only 2 injuries on martin. a bullet wound, and bruised knuckles
2) zimmerman was beat the fuck up. lacerations on the back of his head point to having it beaten on or against pavement

that's where you wrong..if Z had sustained "head trauma" as he claimed 25 slams on the pavement..he would have been unconscience..you don't get to walk away from 25 head slams on a concrete pavement, conscience with no visit to hospital...:lol again you guys living in Zimmerman's fantasy world :lol

Peter Pan says Hi :lol

[Koolaid_Man]

I don't have respect for GZ either..but I have respect for him defending his right to live. Whether he deserves to live for his past discretions is one thing. But you can't take that into consideration as a juror. GZ wasn't racist...going by other people he was a monster, though...I will agree. He shouldn't have gotten out of his car, but he did...didn't mean Trayvon should have attacked him. And Trayvon was being racist himself...calling GZ a "creepy cracker." Are you ok with that?

Thanks for pointing that out....Now here's my setup question....:lmao

Why do you believe Trayvon called Zim a "Creepy Ass Cracka" :lol gotdam I'm a muthafucker huh? Why do you believe he said it?

[Spursfan092120]

that's where you wrong..if Z had sustained "head trauma" as he claimed 25 slams on the pavement..he would have been unconscience..you don't get to walk away from 25 head slams on a concrete pavement, conscience with no visit to hospital...:lol again you guys living in Zimmerman's fantasy world :lol

Peter Pan says Hi :lol
You seem to be overlooking this

http://lawfuluse.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/george-zimmerman-bloody-photo-20121203.jpg

Are you denying Martin beat the shit out of him? Are you denying it had come down to Martin or Zimmerman walking away with their lives? Son, you are so full of shit your pupils are turning brown. If it was you, and someone had mounted you and was beating the shit out of you, taking your life, you wouldn't care what color they were, or what the case was...you'd pull that trigger too. Say you wouldn't. Zim should have stayed in his car...Martin shouldn't have attacked. Both men were wrongPERIOD.

[Spursfan092120]

Thanks for pointing that out....Now here's my setup question....:lmao

Why do you believe Trayvon called Zim a "Creepy Ass Cracka" :lol gotdam I'm a muthafucker huh? Why do you believe he said it?
Setup question? What did this do? How was this supposed to set me up? Creepy? Yeah..probably. Cracker? I don't know..because Trayvon was racist, and didn't realize that Zim was half hispanic and half white.

[Koolaid_Man]

You seem to be overlooking this

http://lawfuluse.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/george-zimmerman-bloody-photo-20121203.jpg

Are you denying Martin beat the shit out of him? Are you denying it had come down to Martin or Zimmerman walking away with their lives? Son, you are so full of shit your pupils are turning brown. If it was you, and someone had mounted you and was beating the shit out of you, taking your life, you wouldn't care what color they were, or what the case was...you'd pull that trigger too. Say you wouldn't. Zim should have stayed in his car...Martin shouldn't have attacked. Both men were wrongPERIOD.

^ That's a single punch to the nose after being grabbed my Zimerman...in fact that looks so lite Z could have don't it to himself post fight...that pic is nothin and it further proves you pussies have never ever ever been in a fight...

[spurraider21]

that's where you wrong..if Z had sustained "head trauma" as he claimed 25 slams on the pavement..he would have been unconscience..you don't get to walk away from 25 head slams on a concrete pavement, conscience with no visit to hospital...:lol again you guys living in Zimmerman's fantasy world :lol

Peter Pan says Hi :lol
how else do you end up with lacerations like that on the back of your head. and forget the fact that the medical experts agreed that those damages could be caused by being beaten on pavement

[Spursfan092120]

^ That's a single punch to the nose after being grabbed my Zimerman...in fact that looks so lite Z could have don't it to himself post fight...that pic is nothin and it further proves you pussies have never ever ever been in a fight...
Are we looking at the same picture? Look at his fucking nose...that is not one punch...and what about the witnesses who SAW Martin attacking him? Are you just not even mentioning that? And the fact that you continue to say we're "pussies, and haven't been in a fight" just leads me to believe that the truth is that you've never been in a fight. I boxed for a while when I was a teenager. I took punches in the nose, with and without gloves...NEVER looked like that after one punch. Sorry son...you're fucking wrong.

[Koolaid_Man]

Setup question? What did this do? How was this supposed to set me up? Creepy? Yeah..probably. Cracker? I don't know..because Trayvon was racist, and didn't realize that Zim was half hispanic and half white.

:lol You course you don't have a clue as to when and how Kool be setting you up..look at how Cully melted down and couldn't back not a single word he spouted up...

here's the setup --> You believe because this is direct testimony from Racheal Jeantel :lol you believe her when it's convenient to. This is believable by whites because she painted her own friend in a not so glowing light (proving her own integrity BTW) conversely and ironically white people don't believe her when she says Zim caught up to Trayvon and Trayvon yelled: "Get Off Of Me"... that's a pretty convenient belief system wouldn't you say :lol

now go sit your hypocritical ass in a corner

[DwayneSchintzius]

:lol You course you don't have a clue as to when and how Kool be setting you up..look at how Cully melted down and couldn't back not a single word he spouted up...

here's the setup --> You believe because this is direct testimony from Racheal Jeantel :lol you believe her when it's convenient to. This is believable by whites because she painted her own friend in a not so glowing light (proving her own integrity BTW) conversely and ironically white people don't believe her when she says Zim caught up to Trayvon and Trayvon yelled: "Get Off Of Me"... that's a pretty convenient belief system wouldn't you say :lol

now go sit your hypocritical ass in a corner

Listen buddy, when n!ggers are roaming around in the rain for no reason, you have to be suspicious. Black people cant swim, which means they must hate water, therefore there is a suspicion for why he was out there. Zimmerman did the right thing by pursuing him, and eventually taking care of business by himself.

[Koolaid_Man]

how else do you end up with lacerations like that on the back of your head. and forget the fact that the medical experts agreed that those damages could be caused by being beaten on pavement

go back and read my initial post..it's all in there..I won't repeat that again..I documented on detail...and none of you have provided a legit alternate theory to it..except Zim's lies about 25 head slams on concrete...with the result being a trickle of blood and no visit to the hospital...:lol I strongly suggest you guys stop while I'm ahead

[spurraider21]

go back and read my initial post..it's all in there..I won't repeat that again..I documented on detail...and none of you have provided a legit alternate theory to it..except Zim's lies about 25 head slams on concrete...with the result being a trickle of blood and no visit to the hospital...:lol I strongly suggest you guys stop while I'm ahead

you gave one HYPOTHETICAL long story of how the fight may have went down with zero evidence (as usual) to back it up. the onus is on the prosecution to PROVE their case, not on the defense to prove innocence. making up how the fight went down isn't proof or evidence

[HI-FI]

Koolaid talking about lies and facts....reminds me when not only welshing on DPG, but he also refused to take DPG's bet for 5 grand to show himself on video with one of his dime pieces. Koolaid just trolling, seeking attention as usual.

[Koolaid_Man]

you gave one HYPOTHETICAL long story of how the fight may have went down with zero evidence (as usual) to back it up. the onus is on the prosecution to PROVE their case, not on the defense to prove innocence. making up how the fight went down isn't proof or evidence

But my previous post you ignored is...answer the question on why Racheal is believable when she says Trayvon called him a creepy cracka and a nigga...but she's not believable when she says Zim grabbed Tray and yelled:" Get off me" remember Zim has the documented history with the LAw of being violent against cops, women, and children

[Spursfan092120]

:lol You course you don't have a clue as to when and how Kool be setting you up..look at how Cully melted down and couldn't back not a single word he spouted up...

here's the setup --> You believe because this is direct testimony from Racheal Jeantel :lol you believe her when it's convenient to. This is believable by whites because she painted her own friend in a not so glowing light (proving her own integrity BTW) conversely and ironically white people don't believe her when she says Zim caught up to Trayvon and Trayvon yelled: "Get Off Of Me"... that's a pretty convenient belief system wouldn't you say :lol

now go sit your hypocritical ass in a corner
I never said anything like that, son...never said Trayvon didn't say that. Obviously Zim caught up to him, because they fought, ya ignorant wretch. The problem for you here is, there is a WITNESS in PERSON that watched Trayvon on top attacking him. And Trayvon only had busted knuckles. If Zim was on top attacking him, don't you think there'd be more than that? And busted knuckles indicates Trayvon was hitting something. Not to mention this...

http://statelymcdanielmanor.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/zimmerman-f-b.jpg

Is it possible that Trayvon could have been saying "GET OFF ME" while hitting Zim? As possible as it is for Zim to hit himself in the face to cause the damage to his nose. So stop with the selective beliefs here, son...every piece of evidence pointed to not guilty for reasons of self defense. I'm not saying Zim was right...he should have stayed in the car...but he didn't...and his repercussions were a fight for his life. He just ended up winning.

[spurraider21]

But my previous post you ignored is...answer the question on why Racheal is believable when she says Trayvon called him a creepy cracka and a nigga...but she's not believable when she says Zim grabbed Tray and yelled:" Get off me" remember Zim has the documented history with the LAw of being violent against cops, women, and children

past history wasn't submittable as evidence for either side in this case. try again

[Koolaid_Man]

But my previous post you ignored is...answer the question on why Racheal is believable when she says Trayvon called him a creepy cracka and a nigga...but she's not believable when she says Zim grabbed Tray and yelled:" Get off me" remember Zim has the documented history with the LAw of being violent against cops, women, and children

also remember phone records corroborate Rachael's timeline of events ...so why is she not credible on point A and not point B...convenience?

[Koolaid_Man]

past history wasn't submittable as evidence for either side in this case. try again

forget past history and just answer the question...why is she believable when painting her close friend in a bad light but lying when it she says the altercation started by Zim grabbing Tray...let me help you out..you cannot answer that question because it'll show what a farce you are

[spurraider21]

forget past history and just answer the question...why is she believable when painting her close friend in a bad light but lying when it she says the altercation started by Zim grabbing Tray...let me help you out..you cannot answer that question because it'll show what a farce you are

don't bring up past history in one post and then continue by saying "forget past history"

her statement was that trayvon said "get off me." she could not possibly have seen what happened. how do you know he said that as soon as zimmerman (allegedly) grabbed him? maybe after martin sucker punched him, and zimmerman grabbed him as they went to the ground, martin then said "get off me." its a whole lot of maybes and not enough hard evidence for a conviction

[Spursfan092120]

forget past history and just answer the question...why is she believable when painting her close friend in a bad light but lying when it she says the altercation started by Zim grabbing Tray...let me help you out..you cannot answer that question because it'll show what a farce you are
How does she know Zim grabbed Trayvon? Because Tray said "Get off me?" Like I said...is it possible Tray said "Get off Me" while attacking Zim? I mean..you seem to think Zim hit himself in the face to cause his bleeding. Isn't that just as likely?

[Koolaid_Man]

I never said anything like that, son...never said Trayvon didn't say that. Obviously Zim caught up to him, because they fought, ya ignorant wretch. The problem for you here is, there is a WITNESS in PERSON that watched Trayvon on top attacking him. And Trayvon only had busted knuckles. If Zim was on top attacking him, don't you think there'd be more than that? And busted knuckles indicates Trayvon was hitting something. Not to mention this...

http://statelymcdanielmanor.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/zimmerman-f-b.jpg

Is it possible that Trayvon could have been saying "GET OFF ME" while hitting Zim? As possible as it is for Zim to hit himself in the face to cause the damage to his nose. So stop with the selective beliefs here, son...every piece of evidence pointed to not guilty for reasons of self defense. I'm not saying Zim was right...he should have stayed in the car...but he didn't...and his repercussions were a fight for his life. He just ended up winning.

You stumped by your own stupidity....the KEY and TWO main pieces of evidence pointed to Zim as guilty...he told his initial lie clearly on tape..no disputing it...and Racheal who we all agree is credible when it comes to negative shit about Trayvon said Zim grabbed the kid...and that the phone went dead...likely Tray defending himself which is a result on Zim's injuries...since you agree that Racheal is credible (by accepting her creepy cracka account) then we have a witness...and it means Z physically assualted Tray got his ass kicked for a quick second, got upset and willing murdered the kid... you're in a conundrum and I'm not...

[Koolaid_Man]

don't bring up past history in one post and then continue by saying "forget past history"

her statement was that trayvon said "get off me." she could not possibly have seen what happened. how do you know he said that as soon as zimmerman (allegedly) grabbed him? maybe after martin sucker punched him, and zimmerman grabbed him as they went to the ground, martin then said "get off me." its a whole lot of maybes and not enough hard evidence for a conviction

oopp oopp...the phone went dead after it was said....come with another theory my friend :lol

[spurraider21]

oopp oopp...the phone went dead after it was said....come with another theory my friend :lol

i don't need one. you have all sorts of hypothetical accounts of what went down. thats not going to warrant a convictionPERIOD

[Koolaid_Man]

How does she know Zim grabbed Trayvon? Because Tray said "Get off me?" Like I said...is it possible Tray said "Get off Me" while attacking Zim? I mean..you seem to think Zim hit himself in the face to cause his bleeding. Isn't that just as likely?

about as plausible as Zim saying to 911 "I am follwing" and then to Sean Hannity "I wasn't following"

keep your head in your ass....Eric Holder is coming for Zimmerman...so enjoy this short lived victory of the young man's death while you can

[Koolaid_Man]

i don't need one. you have all sorts of hypothetical accounts of what went down. thats not going to warrant a convictionPERIOD

nothing hypothetical about that son...phone records show her phone went dead right up to the altercation or impact...you cannot spin your way out of this...like I said from the start...I'm literally smarter than you guys...yall have nothing...but more spinning and not even looking at case evidence...when you do come back and present the story ;-)

[spurraider21]

nothing hypothetical about that son...phone records show her phone went dead right up to the altercation or impact...you cannot spin your way out of this...like I said from the start...I'm literally smarter than you guys...yall have nothing...but more spinning and not even looking at case evidence...when you do come back and present the story ;-)
not talking about the phone record. your scenario on how exactly the conflict went down is all purely hypothetical. hypothetical and circumstantial evidence isn't going to get a murder coniction

[HI-FI]

about as plausible as Zim saying to 911 "I am follwing" and then to Sean Hannity "I wasn't following"

keep your head in your ass....Eric Holder is coming for Zimmerman...so enjoy this short lived victory of the young man's death while you can
Like you said under Homeland_Security, Holder is just making a circus to deflect from Hussein's other scandals.

[Spursfan092120]

about as plausible as Zim saying to 911 "I am follwing" and then to Sean Hannity "I wasn't following"

keep your head in your ass....Eric Holder is coming for Zimmerman...so enjoy this short lived victory of the young man's death while you can
Man..all you see is red..how many times do I have to say Zim was wrong? He shouldn't have gotten out of his car. You're not answering his question though...How do you know Tray didn't start it with a punch before Zim grabbed him, followed by "Get off of me." You don't know that. You have one person who was there in person, and another one who was on a phone. You want to discredit shit? Fine..take the "creepy cracker" out of it. You still have someone who saw the shit saying Trayvon was beating the hell out of Zim...witness in person beats witness on the phonePERIOD

[Koolaid_Man]

not talking about the phone record. your scenario on how exactly the conflict went down is all purely hypothetical. hypothetical and circumstantial evidence isn't going to get a murder coniction

Spin away kid..but until you come to terms with why you believe Racheal when she's "negative" about Tray vs when she's "positive" then we have nothing further to discuss..it's the same rationale from the all-white Jury..Juror 37 openly admitted on CNN : "When Racheal said Trayvon called him a creepy cracka I certainly believed that." -- why but of course she did :lol ....now when it came to what she heard on the phone at the moment Zim caught up with Trayvon that piece was not believable because the jury had already made up their minds...If they thought Rachael was a liar why believe only the negative stuff about her friend..In all honesty Racheal Jeantel with her painting her friend in an unglowing light showed that as person she has way more integrity and honesty than any of those jurors willing to let a murder go free because he fit their profile of what a "real" American is...

I'm done with you...you've proved to me my intellectual inferior...have a good evening dude..

[Koolaid_Man]

Man..all you see is red..how many times do I have to say Zim was wrong? He shouldn't have gotten out of his car. You're not answering his question though...How do you know Tray didn't start it with a punch before Zim grabbed him, followed by "Get off of me." You don't know that. You have one person who was there in person, and another one who was on a phone. You want to discredit shit? Fine..take the "creepy cracker" out of it. You still have someone who saw the shit saying Trayvon was beating the hell out of Zim...witness in person beats witness on the phonePERIOD

yeah yeah...whatever "he kick my cat he was wrong" I can see your justified moral equivalence...kick a cat..kill a nigga...like popping a can of grape soda..I get it

[spurraider21]

:lol nonstop deflecting and hypothetical scenarios. i never said i don't believe rachael's testimony. for all i know, Martin DID say "get off me" but that again doesn't show that he didnt start the fight. its possible he sucker punched him and GZ held onto him on the way down, prompting him to say "get off me."

its all hypothetical = NO conviction.

[Koolaid_Man]

:lol nonstop deflecting and hypothetical scenarios. i never said i don't believe rachael's testimony. for all i know, Martin DID say "get off me" but that again doesn't show that he didnt start the fight. its possible he sucker punched him and GZ held onto him on the way down, prompting him to say "get off me."

its all hypothetical = NO conviction.

so if Martin didn't start the fight and Zim didn't start the fight how do we know who's telling the truth since one his dead...we do that by looking at who told the first and VERY BIG lie... Capish?

911: "Are you following"
Zimmerman: "Yes"
911: "Please don't"

Sean Hannity: "Were you following"
Zimmerman: "No I was not"

^ this is all we have to go on...and it's the genesis of everything else this violent guy Zim (assault on a cop, beating his girlfriend, and molesting his cousin) is all about...sure his past wasn't admissible but were not in court at the moment...the laws of reasonableness is on my side...a guy with a clear violent past, armed with a gun no safety, chasing down a 16 yr old and you want me to believe Zim didn't throw the first punch...haha yeah right...grow up kid we're living in the real world..enough with the video games and cartoons

[spurraider21]

so if Martin didn't start the fight and Zim didn't start the fight how do we know who's telling the truth since one his dead...we do that by looking at who told the first and VERY BIG lie... Capish?

911: "Are you following"
Zimmerman: "Yes"
911: "Please don't"

Sean Hannity: "Were you following"
Zimmerman: "No I was not"

^ this is all we have to go on...and it's the genesis of everything else this violent guy Zim (assault on a cop, beating his girlfriend, and molesting his cousin) is all about...sure his past wasn't admissible but were not in court at the moment...the laws of reasonableness is on my side...a guy with a clear violent past, armed with a gun no safety, chasing down a 16 yr old and you want me to believe Zim didn't throw the first punch...haha yeah right...grow up kid we're living in the real world..enough with the video games and cartoons

correct. unfortunately, its not enough for a conviction

[Koolaid_Man]

correct. unfortunately, its not enough for a conviction

actually it is since it's physical evidence..just depends on which set of eyes the jury is viewing....this jury is just as inept and culpable as the OJ Jury

and the Casey Anthony jury....avgerage people being asked to judge as case and don't know how in the fuck to interpret law or practice common sense...if I'm on that Jury I start with Zim's lie and we examine it to conclusion...the Jury like the previous one I served on will either hang or see things my way...they saw things my way and went home...some we're pissed but I set the bar high and drive a hard bargain...just how it is with Kool....you see Cully couldn't handle and ran on...only the strong survive

[Spursfan092120]

yeah yeah...whatever "he kick my cat he was wrong" I can see your justified moral equivalence...kick a cat..kill a nigga...like popping a can of grape soda..I get it
lol..just as I assumed..I'll repeat what I said...you're more racist than anyone in here. Again...I hate that Trayvon died..shouldn't have happened. But tell me something, son...where are all these angry statements and digging up google to find threads to hang on when thousands of blacks are killing blacks and whites are killing whites? Why does it take a media drive "racist" trial for you to be angry about murder? I mean, aren't we supposed to be all the same? If you're mad at Zim for being "racist" is it cool that all those white people I posted about earlier were killed, raped, and burned alive by blacks? Is that ok? I didn't see you getting angry about any of that.

[Spursfan092120]

actually it is since it's physical evidence..just depends on which set of eyes the jury is viewing....this jury is just as inept and culpable as the OJ Jury

and the Casey Anthony jury....avgerage people being asked to judge as case and don't know how in the fuck to interpret law or practice common sense...if I'm on that Jury I start with Zim's lie and we examine it to conclusion...the Jury like the previous one I served on will either hang or see things my way...they saw things my way and went home...some we're pissed but I set the bar high and drive a hard bargain...just how it is with Kool....you see Cully couldn't handle and ran on...only the strong survive
But you'd never be on that trial, because they don't allow racists....and someone who is basing their entire decision on believing someone on the phone over someone in person shows that.

[Clipper Nation]

Like you said under Homeland_Security, Holder is just making a circus to deflect from Hussein's other scandals.

This.... the whole trial was just a classic wedge issue distraction and (predictably) 90% of Americans took the bait, tbh.... served for a nice distraction from Detroit going bankrupt (after Barry said during his campaign that it wouldn't), the NSA debate, and the IRS scandal....

[Spursfan092120]

so if Martin didn't start the fight and Zim didn't start the fight how do we know who's telling the truth since one his dead...we do that by looking at who told the first and VERY BIG lie... Capish?

911: "Are you following"
Zimmerman: "Yes"
911: "Please don't"

Sean Hannity: "Were you following"
Zimmerman: "No I was not"

^ this is all we have to go on...and it's the genesis of everything else this violent guy Zim (assault on a cop, beating his girlfriend, and molesting his cousin) is all about...sure his past wasn't admissible but were not in court at the moment...the laws of reasonableness is on my side...a guy with a clear violent past, armed with a gun no safety, chasing down a 16 yr old and you want me to believe Zim didn't throw the first punch...haha yeah right...grow up kid we're living in the real world..enough with the video games and cartoons
So you're basing an entire case on which of the two people lied first when one of them wasn't even alive. How could Martin lie if he wasn't there. How do we know Jenteal didn't lie? We don't. We can't put someone away for murder because of that. It doesn't work that way.

[Spursfan092120]

This.... the whole trial was just a classic wedge issue distraction and (predictably) 90% of Americans took the bait, tbh.... served for a nice distraction from Detroit going bankrupt (after Barry said during his campaign that it wouldn't), the NSA debate, and the IRS scandal....
yup

[Koolaid_Man]

But you'd never be on that trial, because they don't allow racists....and someone who is basing their entire decision on believing someone on the phone over someone in person shows that.

they allowed 5 white racists and 1 mexican racist...all you gotta do is fit a profile and lie your ass off the serve on a jury...shit is simple..you've obviously never served

[Koolaid_Man]

So you're basing an entire case on which of the two people lied first when one of them wasn't even alive. How could Martin lie if he wasn't there. How do we know Jenteal didn't lie? We don't. We can't put someone away for murder because of that. It doesn't work that way.

Bingo you're the master of the obvious....we can and we should put people away for lying in a murder case...you're a neanderthal...dude your duty for this country and swallow your pistol...please

[Koolaid_Man]

lol..just as I assumed..I'll repeat what I said...you're more racist than anyone in here. Again...I hate that Trayvon died..shouldn't have happened. But tell me something, son...where are all these angry statements and digging up google to find threads to hang on when thousands of blacks are killing blacks and whites are killing whites? Why does it take a media drive "racist" trial for you to be angry about murder? I mean, aren't we supposed to be all the same? If you're mad at Zim for being "racist" is it cool that all those white people I posted about earlier were killed, raped, and burned alive by blacks? Is that ok? I didn't see you getting angry about any of that.


because there's a bigger issue at stake here...stop feignig ignorance....the majority and their attitudes that they can kill innocent people committing no crimes must be stopped..if it goes unchecked we go to vigilante justice...and a reincarnation of the civil war...you guys for people who claim they're educated think real small..asking dumb ass questions - lol

[Spursfan092120]

because there's a bigger issue at stake here...stop feignig ignorance....the majority and their attitudes that they can kill innocent people committing no crimes must be stopped..if it goes unchecked we go to vigilante justice...and a reincarnation of the civil war...you guys for people who claim they're educated think real small..asking dumb ass questions - lol
and yet you won't answer...was it ok for all those white kids and young people to be killed, raped, and burned alive by blacks? Why weren't you up in arms about that? Marley Lion was a 17 year old (just like Trayvon) sitting in the back of his car when he was shot and murdered by a 30 year old (just like Zim) while robbing him. He did nothing either. Is that ok? Where was the media on that one?

[Spursfan092120]

My point is...media is driving this as racism....it's not a racism trial...it's a trial where one guy shot another guy..it happens all the damn time. Nobody gets up in arms about all the people dying every day. But when all of a sudden there's a lot of bad things going on this country, they decide to pick something for everyone to focus on instead of the fact that this country is going down the damn tubes...and you're one of the pawns falling for it.

[Koolaid_Man]

and yet you won't answer...was it ok for all those white kids and young people to be killed, raped, and burned alive by blacks? Why weren't you up in arms about that? Marley Lion was a 17 year old (just like Trayvon) sitting in the back of his car when he was shot and murdered by a 30 year old (just like Zim) while robbing him. He did nothing either. Is that ok? Where was the media on that one?

none of it was right...but I only follow what's thrust upon me...Trayvon's case made it to the light and if those other cases made it I'd follow them too...I'm for right..I take no racial sides...this case was racial but it's also clear Zim is a murderer I don't care what kind of evidence they deemed not admissible...just like OJ was guilty and Casey Anthony is guilty...I have lots of white friend I grew up with they just happen mostly all be extremely progressive / liberal / democrat...

[Buddy Mignon]

Hey Kool... what's your opinion of the Detroit 300?

[Koolaid_Man]

Hey Kool... what's your opinion of the Detroit 300?

I didn't follow it...never heard of it....but if it fits my standard of justice based on my regulating in this thread then you have your answer...

[Rogue]

It's still a white-dominated society and blacks should learn to comform to it, but on the other hand, white people also need to respect them niggas more, treat them as humans rather than animals or sub-humans. Niggas and whites can live in peace imho, some black thugs cause messes without a reason but they're the black sheep in the black community, and whites have their own share of assholes too. Niggas are humans just like you and me, and the fact couldn't be denied just because they look differently, imho.

[Rogue]

I agree with 092120, the media can be heinously and intentionally misleading. Journalists don't fear to light up a cracker, they only fear that it doesn't explode, because they would lose their jobs if there's no "news" going on. They intentionally divert the whole discussion towards the evil end in order to drive people mad, but you don't need to swallow whatever shit the media are trying to beat down your throat imho

[Spursfan092120]

I agree with 092120, the media can be heinously and intentionally misleading. Journalists don't fear to light up a cracker, they only fear that it doesn't explode, because they would lose their jobs if there's no "news" going on. They intentionally divert the whole discussion towards the evil end in order to drive people mad, but you don't need to swallow whatever shit the media are trying to beat down your throat imho
All I'm trying to say...

http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/article/media_slots/photos/000/760/085/applause-gif-tumblr-47_original.gif?1363040789

[Spursfan092120]

none of it was right...but I only follow what's thrust upon me...Trayvon's case made it to the light and if those other cases made it I'd follow them too...I'm for right..I take no racial sides...this case was racial but it's also clear Zim is a murderer I don't care what kind of evidence they deemed not admissible...just like OJ was guilty and Casey Anthony is guilty...I have lots of white friend I grew up with they just happen mostly all be extremely progressive / liberal / democrat...
OK...respect. We'll agree to disagree on the case, that's fine. But at least you understand where I'm coming from.

[spurs10]

Trayvon almost saved his life. It's sad.

[spurs10]

http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1265193



god bless this niggaEveryone "flips a switch" when someone is following them in the dark with a gun. What a stupid thing to say.

[Buddy Mignon]

I didn't follow it...never heard of it....but if it fits my standard of justice based on my regulating in this thread then you have your answer...


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[pad300]

so if Martin didn't start the fight and Zim didn't start the fight how do we know who's telling the truth since one his dead...we do that by looking at who told the first and VERY BIG lie... Capish?

911: "Are you following"
Zimmerman: "Yes"
911: "Please don't"

Sean Hannity: "Were you following"
Zimmerman: "No I was not"

^ this is all we have to go on...and it's the genesis of everything else this violent guy Zim (assault on a cop, beating his girlfriend, and molesting his cousin) is all about...sure his past wasn't admissible but were not in court at the moment...the laws of reasonableness is on my side...a guy with a clear violent past, armed with a gun no safety, chasing down a 16 yr old and you want me to believe Zim didn't throw the first punch...haha yeah right...grow up kid we're living in the real world..enough with the video games and cartoons

Kool, you're a fucking low rent cockbite. Let put the real 911 Transcription up here you useless trolling peace of pigshit...

http://misterbillohno.newsvine.com/_news/2013/07/10/19392176-transcript-of-george-zimmerman-911-call


Zimmerman:

Yeah. You go in straight through the entrance and then you would go left. You go straight in, don’t turn and make a left.

He’s running. [2:08]

911 dispatcher:

He’s running? Which way is he running?

Zimmerman:

Down toward the other entrance of the neighborhood. [2:14]

911 dispatcher:

OK, which entrance is that he’s headed towards?

Zimmerman:

The back entrance.

‘F-ing (inaudible) at 2:22]

911 dispatcher:

Are you following him? [2:24]

Zimmerman:

Yeah. [2:25]

911 dispatcher:

OK.

We don’t need you to do that. [2:26]

Zimmerman:

OK. [2:28]

911 dispatcher:

Alright, sir, what is your name? [2:34]

Zimmerman:

George. He ran.

....

Call ends 4:07


Note that Zimmerman says OK after being told to not pursue Trayvon 2:28, and then continues to talk about how Trayvon ran away. Zimmerman stopped. The call went on till 4:07: Trayvon had at least 1:30 as a lead. There is no way fatass Zimmerman was catching a 17 year old football player...Trayvon was gone and came back. Why? To start something with Zimmerman to show his "girlfriend" he wasn't a pussy? Legally, coming back after breaking away makes it a 2nd incident, and makes Trayvon the aggressor...

[Spursfan092120]

Kool, you're a fucking low rent cockbite. Let put the real 911 Transcription up here you useless trolling peace of pigshit...

http://misterbillohno.newsvine.com/_news/2013/07/10/19392176-transcript-of-george-zimmerman-911-call


Zimmerman:

Yeah. You go in straight through the entrance and then you would go left. You go straight in, don’t turn and make a left.

He’s running. [2:08]

911 dispatcher:

He’s running? Which way is he running?

Zimmerman:

Down toward the other entrance of the neighborhood. [2:14]

911 dispatcher:

OK, which entrance is that he’s headed towards?

Zimmerman:

The back entrance.

‘F-ing (inaudible) at 2:22]

911 dispatcher:

Are you following him? [2:24]

Zimmerman:

Yeah. [2:25]

911 dispatcher:

OK.

We don’t need you to do that. [2:26]

Zimmerman:

OK. [2:28]

911 dispatcher:

Alright, sir, what is your name? [2:34]

Zimmerman:

George. He ran.

....

Call ends 4:07


Note that Zimmerman says OK after being told to not pursue Trayvon 2:28, and then continues to talk about how Trayvon ran away. Zimmerman stopped. The call went on till 4:07: Trayvon had at least 1:30 as a lead. There is no way fatass Zimmerman was catching a 17 year old football player...Trayvon was gone and came back. Why? To start something with Zimmerman to show his "girlfriend" he wasn't a pussy? Legally, coming back after breaking away makes it a 2nd incident, and makes Trayvon the aggressor...
Interesting...sheds some light.

[tim_duncan_fan]

lol at people acting like Charles Barkley said he doesn't think Zimmerman murdered that kid.

I'm not very religious and I don't know how real karma is, but if there is some sort universal equalizer that naturally meters out justice, George Zimmerman and all of his defenders are going to get the equivalent of frying in hell. I'm usually not sadistic, but I take great comfort in this. You evil motherfuckers are going to burn. :)

[Buddy Mignon]

lol at people acting like Charles Barkley said he doesn't think Zimmerman murdered that kid.

I'm not very religious and I don't know how real karma is, but if there is some sort universal equalizer that naturally meters out justice, George Zimmerman and all of his defenders are going to get the equivalent of frying in hell. I'm usually not sadistic, but I take great comfort in this. You evil motherfuckers are going to burn. :)

Don't hold your breath, son.

[Spursfan092120]

lol at people acting like Charles Barkley said he doesn't think Zimmerman murdered that kid.

I'm not very religious and I don't know how real karma is, but if there is some sort universal equalizer that naturally meters out justice, George Zimmerman and all of his defenders are going to get the equivalent of frying in hell. I'm usually not sadistic, but I take great comfort in this. You evil motherfuckers are going to burn. :)
Really don't think anybody actually defends him for murdering the kid.

[Jacob1983]

I think most human beings agree that Zimmerman killed Trayvon. He had a loaded gun and shot Trayvon dead. No doubt about that. With the evidence that was presented, it appeared like it was self defense. In court, you look at evidence, not emotions.

[Amaso]

How can anyone argue against Zimmerman?

Trayvon beat him up, that's that.

Let's say GZ was actually racist, he has the right to be, and has the right to profile someone. He also has the right to follow someone by law (and he stopped following and walked back to his car). He is allowed to carry a gun by law... by the way, whats the point of carrying a gun for protection if you aren't going to use it?

[Jacob1983]

Racism is wrong but as a human being, you are entitled to be a racist as long as you are not physically hurting anyone. Also, Zimmerman was not charged with a hate crime. People need to realize and understand that having racist thoughts and feelings is legal. Not saying it's right. Just saying that there is no fucking way that you can stop someone from having those types of feelings and thoughts. Well, I guess you could kill them.

[SupremeGuy]

http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/didnt-read-lol-chicken-gif.gifHOLY MOTHERFUCKING LOL :lmao

[spurraider21]

lol at people acting like Charles Barkley said he doesn't think Zimmerman murdered that kid.

I'm not very religious and I don't know how real karma is, but if there is some sort universal equalizer that naturally meters out justice, George Zimmerman and all of his defenders are going to get the equivalent of frying in hell. I'm usually not sadistic, but I take great comfort in this. You evil motherfuckers are going to burn. :)
:lmao

[Mal]

stay on point will ya..what Z being a molester proves is that he has a very wicked character....but I noticed how you contentedly left out his violently attacking a police officer and violent domestic abuse case against his ex girlfriend...very slick of you not to mention those KEY pieces that speak to who the real thug was....:lol....violence against cops, beating up his fiance, molesting his cousin, murdering a teen...gotdam what's next

I dont care who is this Zimmerman guy. But US media are making Martin, little innocent teenager, who was brutally murdered by white thug. And this isnt the truth either.

[Thread]

^But, it's worth a fortune.

[GuerillaBlack]

Setup question? What did this do? How was this supposed to set me up? Creepy? Yeah..probably. Cracker? I don't know..because Trayvon was racist, and didn't realize that Zim was half hispanic and half white.

You guys keep holding onto this cracka thing, without fucking thinking and realizing that called zimmerman a nigga too. Was he a racist for calling zimmerman a nigga as well?

aContinue dropping those truth bombs Kool. These dudes can't handle it.

[GuerillaBlack]

This.... the whole trial was just a classic wedge issue distraction and (predictably) 90% of Americans took the bait, tbh.... served for a nice distraction from Detroit going bankrupt (after Barry said during his campaign that it wouldn't), the NSA debate, and the IRS scandal....

They also didnt report that there was a surplus last month, e job growth numbers have been revised up and last months were much better than expected, and that basically we are in another boom now. Unemployment is dropping like a rock across the country.

Barry doing his thing tbh

[Thread]

Barry doing his thing tbh

Hussein Obama is a loser, in a winner's circle. It happens.

[Spursfan092120]

You guys keep holding onto this cracka thing, without fucking thinking and realizing that called zimmerman a nigga too. Was he a racist for calling zimmerman a nigga as well?

aContinue dropping those truth bombs Kool. These dudes can't handle it.
ok...but people are saying Zim was racist...where's the proof in that? Where's the proof that he's racist? I'm not saying what Zim did was right. I'm just saying this isn't about racism. And some can't see past the fact that it was a hispanic/white guy killing a black guy. And it's that fact that makes those people more racist than the ones who are trying to get past it. Yes, it happened. But like I said to Kool..where are you while thousands of blacks are killing blacks and whites are killing whites? Suddenly a life doesn't matter if someone of their own race kills them? It has to be a media driven race trial to make you give a shit?

[Trill Clinton]

ok...but people are saying Zim was racist...where's the proof in that? Where's the proof that he's racist? I'm not saying what Zim did was right. I'm just saying this isn't about racism. And some can't see past the fact that it was a hispanic/white guy killing a black guy. And it's that fact that makes those people more racist than the ones who are trying to get past it. Yes, it happened. But like I said to Kool..where are you while thousands of blacks are killing blacks and whites are killing whites? Suddenly a life doesn't matter if someone of their own race kills them? It has to be a media driven race trial to make you give a shit?

its racism because blacks and latinos are profiled every.single.day. even obama related to it because as a half breed, he is looked at as black and would have been profiled when he was a teen. we get followed, stalked, pulled over, patted down and frisked just because our dark skin makes us suspicious. that's where the racism comes from.

[Thread]

even obama related to it because as a half breed, he is looked at as black

Hussein Obama did it because he's without an ounce of decency or conscience. He's a race baiter & a racist.

[buttsR4rebounding]

I don't know what Trayvon had going on his in life outside of that fateful night...

But you seem to know everything about Zimmerman..


The things you say about Trayvon are excusable as a 15-16 yr old..)

Really? It's excusable for a 16 year old to sell drugs, beat the crap out of a bus driver for not letting him ride for free, threaten both of his parents, have stolen merchandise from the same neighborhood in his school locker, etc...? Damn, you set the bar pretty low. Would these things be excusable for a Hispanic or White 16 year old? Truth is this kid was on a track that would have led to him killing someone else. Statistically, that would have been another Black man. GZ probably saved a Black man's life "that fateful night".

[Koolaid_Man]

But you seem to know everything about Zimmerman..



Really? It's excusable for a 16 year old to sell drugs, beat the crap out of a bus driver for not letting him ride for free, threaten both of his parents, have stolen merchandise from the same neighborhood in his school locker, etc...? Damn, you set the bar pretty low. Would these things be excusable for a Hispanic or White 16 year old? Truth is this kid was on a track that would have led to him killing someone else. Statistically, that would have been another Black man. GZ probably saved a Black man's life "that fateful night".

Problem is with all that is....I provided concrete proof as to Zims violent assault on an officer....beating his fiancee, and molestation allegations from his younger cousin. You've provided no such proof regarding Trayvon. It's all nothing but a racist make believe back drop as to why murder in this case deserves a wink and a nod.

[chrhawk]

Koolaid_Man with the goods. It's pretty funny that all the Laker fans in my personal life agree with me on this ordeal. Yet two of my friends that are Spurs fans think they Trayvon was some gangbanger that had to be put down.

[Spursfan092120]

its racism because blacks and latinos are profiled every.single.day. even obama related to it because as a half breed, he is looked at as black and would have been profiled when he was a teen. we get followed, stalked, pulled over, patted down and frisked just because our dark skin makes us suspicious. that's where the racism comes from.
Let me tell you a little story. When I was 21, I was playing basketball in my hometown with a couple of my friends. A black guy walks up to us, pulls a gun on us, and says, "I don't want no white boys playing on my court." It was a public court, by the way. Being profiled isn't right...no...but that's not either. Racism is alive and well in this country...but it's just as bad on both ends. You won't believe me, and that's fine....but that doesn't mean you're right.

[Spursfan092120]

Problem is with all that is....I provided concrete proof as to Zims violent assault on an officer....beating his fiancee, and molestation allegations from his younger cousin. You've provided no such proof regarding Trayvon. It's all nothing but a racist make believe back drop as to why murder in this case deserves a wink and a nod.
Kind of like your hypothetical way of how this went down. You know nothing...you weren't there. Again, I'm not defending Zim, he should have stayed in his car. But if Trayvon was doing what the witness says he was doing, it was going to be him or Zim...Zim chose to live.

[Spursfan092120]

its racism because blacks and latinos are profiled every.single.day. even obama related to it because as a half breed, he is looked at as black and would have been profiled when he was a teen. we get followed, stalked, pulled over, patted down and frisked just because our dark skin makes us suspicious. that's where the racism comes from.
You still didn't answer my question. Why does it become so important when a non-black kills a black but if a black man kills another black man, it's just another day? Where is the media and the uprising on all the stories I mentioned earlier, like the two 13 year old black kids who doused the white kid (whom they didn't even know) and burned him alive, saying "that's what you deserve, white boy?" And no...this had nothing to do with Trayvon..this was long before the trial. I could go on and on with similar stories, but media doesn't care, and people don't say a word.

[chrhawk]

You still didn't answer my question. Why does it become so important when a non-black kills a black but if a black man kills another black man, it's just another day? Where is the media and the uprising on all the stories I mentioned earlier, like the two 13 year old black kids who doused the white kid (whom they didn't even know) and burned him alive, saying "that's what you deserve, white boy?" And no...this had nothing to do with Trayvon..this was long before the trial. I could go on and on with similar stories, but media doesn't care, and people don't say a word.

You're missing the point. The national story didn't come from the fact that Trayvon was killed. It came from the fact that he was killed and walked around for 44 days without so much as an arrest or an investigation from the authorities. I'm pretty sure those black-kids you're speaking of were arrested on the spot and justice was swiftly handed down. Racism is wrong both ways, the difference is how many blacks do you see trying to justify those kinds of racial situations?

[tim_duncan_fan]

chrhawk just shut the room down. Lol Racist, lil dick motherfuckers.

[FkLA]

Pretty crazy considering how often he plays the race card. Nigga straight up said race played a role when Auburn didn't hire a black coach a couple years ago.

[Spursfan092120]

chrhawk just shut the room down. Lol Racist, lil dick motherfuckers.
That your answer? Race card? Do you give a shit when blacks kill blacks? What about whites? Do you care when a black man rapes a 38 year old white woman and her 10 year old daughter and bash their skull in with a hammer? Does that bother you, or is it only when a hispanic/white man kills a black man?

[triple t's]

You ever did something wrong and felt like you would have to spend the rest of your life apologizing for it? There you go ... Because at some point, emotions will level off and the offended will grant you asylum. But the moment something goes sideways, you're back n the doghouse, deeper than you were before because you broke a little bit of the trust that was earned. It'll never be completely eradicated just because we are humans, everyone is entitled to their opinions, and stupidity is just another damaged leaf on a growing tree. You can choose to be ignorant and enjoy the good side of things, or you can remain cognizant of the notion that someone is devising an evil plot to destroy you. Either way, the sun will rise and set for the day following this one, which means it's one less day that i have to be alive. So the question is, do you really want to spend it analyzing the intricacies of illogical thinking of the prejudiced mindset?

As well, it depends on the circumstances. People react based on their experiences known and unknown, as well as their emotions which are often guided by stereotypes and prejudices. Is it wrong? Not always. Depends on how colored your experiences are. Fact is you can't control how someone perceived you because you didn't grow up as they did. It doesn't excuse some of the prejudices, but it explains the majority. Part of the being different is how people carry themselves because it often predicates how you're treated. So if you carry yourself a certain way, they treat you a certain way.

Besides, it's easier to just believe it someone else's fault rather than to do the work to prove you can be great. It like having a built in excuse generator. It's the best non job in the world, but sadly, we have no one to blame but ourselves. We have the world in our hands because of the past injustices, yet we fail to logically take advantage of it. We rather spend our lottery winnings on all the chicken nuggets money can buy and claim we were led to do it because of the advertising.

Just my 2c.

[tim_duncan_fan]

That your answer? Race card? Do you give a shit when blacks kill blacks? What about whites? Do you care when a black man rapes a 38 year old white woman and her 10 year old daughter and bash their skull in with a hammer? Does that bother you, or is it only when a hispanic/white man kills a black man?

Your argument has already been shredded. Florida wouldn't let some nigga run around free after killing anybody, let alone a kid. And you wouldn't see me rooting for him to be freed. But some of y'all are racist bastards destined to burn in hell.

But not me. You kill somebody for any reason, you should get arrested the day it happens just to be safe, regardless of your race or the race of the person you killed.

[spurraider21]

Your argument has already been shredded. Florida wouldn't let some nigga run around free after killing anybody, let alone a kid. And you wouldn't see me rooting for him to be freed. But some of y'all are racist bastards destined to burn in hell.

But not me. You kill somebody for any reason, you should get arrested the day it happens just to be safe, regardless of your race or the race of the person you killed.
:lol at hypothetical scenario = "shredding an argument"

[Spursfan092120]

Your argument has already been shredded. Florida wouldn't let some nigga run around free after killing anybody, let alone a kid. And you wouldn't see me rooting for him to be freed. But some of y'all are racist bastards destined to burn in hell.

But not me. You kill somebody for any reason, you should get arrested the day it happens just to be safe, regardless of your race or the race of the person you killed.
Obviously you're the racist one here..because you are blinded by my comments, and calling me racist. I've already said Zimmerman was wrong...he shouldn't have even gotten out of his car. But Trayvon attacked him...and he felt his life was in danger, so he did what any human would do, protect his life. That's the difference between this case and the ones I mentioned. None of the cases I mentioned was the victim the aggressor. This was.

[BigTex342006]

What a joke. All this outrage for one tragic killing... one with very little actual evidence for murder or even manslaughter, with even less that race was involved. This is what Jessie Jackson, Al Sharpton, Quanel X, Obama, etc wants to focus on?? How about spend a little time trying to confront and deal with the real elephant in the room: the complete destruction of the black family. 70 percent of all black children are born to single mothers.....70 fukin percent!! Statistically it is more likely for a black child to end up in jail that in college.... Protest that you morons. What a complete waste of collective energy trying to go after GZ... Fix your fucking house black leaders....

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What a joke. All this outrage for one tragic killing... one with very little actual evidence for murder or even manslaughter, with even less that race was involved. This is what Jessie Jackson, Al Sharpton, Quanel X, Obama, etc wants to focus on?? How about spend a little time trying to confront and deal with the real elephant in the room: the complete destruction of the black family. 70 percent of all black children are born to single mothers.....70 fukin percent!! Statistically it is more likely for a black child to end up in jail that in prison.... Protest that you morons. What a complete waste of collective energy trying to go after GZ... Fix your fucking house black leaders....

Because that would take work, actual mind numbing, exhausting work. What's they're doing is easy.

[BigTex342006]

I guess if you are going to believe Rachel Jeantel's testimony then you should also believe her when she said that Trayvon was giving Zimmerman a "whup assing"?

[Koolaid_Man]

[QUOTE=BigTex342006;6770248]What a joke. All this outrage for one tragic killing... one with very little actual evidence for murder or even manslaughter, with even less that race was involved. This is what Jessie Jackson, Al Sharpton, Quanel X, Obama, etc wants to focus on?? How about spend a little time trying to confront and deal with the real elephant in the room: the complete destruction of the black family. 70 percent of all black children are born to single mothers.....70 fukin percent!! Statistically it is more likely for a black child to end up in jail that in college.... Protest that you morons. What a complete waste of collective energy trying to go after GZ... Fix your fucking house black leaders....[/QUOT

Lol. What do you think we're trying to accomplish here. the real elephant in the room is white racism which causes your rant above. More from Kool later

[HI-FI]

Because that would take work, actual mind numbing, exhausting work. What's they're doing is easy.
Thread been doing work in this Thread. Too bad Koolaid is using it as a platform for needing more attention.

[Spursfan092120]

Lol. What do you think we're trying to accomplish here. the real elephant in the room is white racism which causes your rant above. More from Kool later
Let's play your little Rachel Jeantel game. She also said "Trayvon wasn't trying to kill anyone...he was just doing whoop ass." sooo....she admitted Trayvon was whooping his ass. He felt his life was threatened, and he defended it.

[BigTex342006]

I am racist because I bring up the disturbing fact about Black families?? Unfortunately that is exactly the response you get from the so called black "leaders" ... they would rather just blame "whitey" for all the ills of the black population. Pathetic.

[Spursfan092120]

rtmy6Knd-eM

[TheCultOfPersonality]

This.... the whole trial was just a classic wedge issue distraction and (predictably) 90% of Americans took the bait, tbh.... served for a nice distraction from Detroit going bankrupt (after Barry said during his campaign that it wouldn't), the NSA debate, and the IRS scandal....
Pretty much.

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Pretty much.

[Mori Chu]

Zimmerman was asking for trouble and should not have followed Martin. But the damn foundation of our judicial system is that if you are on trial for murder and potentially going to be put away for life, you are innocent until proven guilty beyond reasonable doubt.

The examples that Kool and others are using do cast some questions on Zimmerman, but they absolutely do not show that he murdered Martin beyond reasonable doubt. End of story. It is all a bit ridiculous; they just didn't have any case, nothing but hearsay and circumstantial evidence and hypotheticals. You cannot send somebody to prison for the rest of their life based on that. Casey Anthony got off and they had WAY more evidence on her than they had here on Zimmerman.

It scares me that so many people think the wrong verdict was given, because if they had their way, the judicial system would be extremely scary and convict too many people on too little evidence.

[Koolaid_Man]

Let's play your little Rachel Jeantel game. She also said "Trayvon wasn't trying to kill anyone...he was just doing whoop ass." sooo....she admitted Trayvon was whooping his ass. He felt his life was threatened, and he defended it.

problem is you're not smart enough to play the game...sure she said he was whupping ass....the key word for you is "CONTEXT" :lol...she also said that the fight started when Zim tried to detain Tray and Tray said "Get Off"....once Zim touched the kid (and with his background and cowboy behavior of chasing him down in the first place) there's no reason to believe Racheal is lying about what she heard..so again in the "CONTEXT" of Zim physically touching Trayvon..Tray was well within his rights to kick his ass...again in a fair society you don't get the chance to engage, initiate, and start a physical altercation...get your ass kicked and then kill someone....let me know when you're really ready to play...I've been clowning you with each post....

[Koolaid_Man]

I am racist because I bring up the disturbing fact about Black families?? Unfortunately that is exactly the response you get from the so called black "leaders" ... they would rather just blame "whitey" for all the ills of the black population. Pathetic.

your not a racist...maybe a little misguided...but won't answer my question about the real elephant in the room which is white racism..both institutional and private that create the perfect breeding grounds for minority failures. I written ad nauseum about this...you're not ready for me either...all you dick in the booty lily ass white boys coming out of nowhere with base level intellects thinking you've discovered the holy grail....

Keep dreaming...that nigga Kool is in da house....and shaking off playa haters that used to call themselves my homies and picking up new associates :lol

[Koolaid_Man]

Zimmerman was asking for trouble and should not have followed Martin. But the damn foundation of our judicial system is that if you are on trial for murder and potentially going to be put away for life, you are innocent until proven guilty beyond reasonable doubt.

The examples that Kool and others are using do cast some questions on Zimmerman, but they absolutely do not show that he murdered Martin beyond reasonable doubt. End of story. It is all a bit ridiculous; they just didn't have any case, nothing but hearsay and circumstantial evidence and hypotheticals. You cannot send somebody to prison for the rest of their life based on that. Casey Anthony got off and they had WAY more evidence on her than they had here on Zimmerman.

It scares me that so many people think the wrong verdict was given, because if they had their way, the judicial system would be extremely scary and convict too many people on too little evidence.

everything that Zimmerman said is hear say and doubt...that dude is a liar....it all started with the first lie...then he covered his tracks by attempting to turn this kid in a gang member, a thug, a drug dealer, a hoodlum, a burglar, all these things that he knew white people would eat up...He committed the perfect murder and had the perfect jury, and perfect system to help him get away with it..it's laughable that a thug, gangsta...

Skittles and Ice Tea..the weapon of choice for thug, burgler, gangsta...

[Spursfan092120]

problem is you're not smart enough to play the game...sure she said he was whupping ass....the key word for you is "CONTEXT" :lol...she also said that the fight started when Zim tried to detain Tray and Tray said "Get Off"....once Zim touched the kid (and with his background and cowboy behavior of chasing him down in the first place) there's no reason to believe Racheal is lying about what she heard..so again in the "CONTEXT" of Zim physically touching Trayvon..Tray was well within his rights to kick his ass...again in a fair society you don't get the chance to engage, initiate, and start a physical altercation...get your ass kicked and then kill someone....let me know when you're really ready to play...I've been clowning you with each post....
Show me where she said Zim grabbed him first...I'm still waiting for you. The fact that every post you feel the need to say "I'm clowning you" or "I'm owning you" shows you obviously are on the defense because you haven't "clowned" or "owned" anyone in here. All you've done is show hypothetical theories based on the account of someone who was on the phone and wasn't even there, when a witness who was there IN PERSON (which you continue to duck every time I bring it up) says that Trayvon was the aggressor. And when you see the entire 9-1-1 call, it shows that Zimmerman stopped going after Trayvon after the Operator told him to. You're still drawing straws...you're still reaching, and you haven't caught up yet. Everyone who was actually around the situation says Trayvon was the aggressor, the people who heard the whole story said Zim was not guilty. What more do you want? Go focus on the other 1000 murders that have happened since this trial ended. Or even better, focus on the complete bankruptcy of Detroit...or Benghazi...or things that the government is trying to pull our attention away from by throwing this in our faces so sheep like you can forget that they're fucking up this country.

[Spursfan092120]

everything that Zimmerman said is hear say and doubt...that dude is a liar....it all started with the first lie...
And Trayvon was a perfect child

then he covered his tracks by attempting to turn this kid in a gang member, a thug, a drug dealer, a hoodlum, a burglar, all these things that he knew white people would eat up...
He wasn't a thug? Looking at his record you're saying he wasn't? And I guess Zimmerman posted these on his facebook, too...

http://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/trayvondrugdealing-2.jpg


He committed the perfect murder and had the perfect jury, and perfect system to help him get away with it..it's laughable that a thug, gangsta...
Skittles and Ice Tea..the weapon of choice for thug, burgler, gangsta...
Skittles + Iced Tea + Codeine or Robitussin = lean...
Guess you Californians don't know 'bout that Lean.

[Mori Chu]

everything that Zimmerman said is hear say and doubt...that dude is a liar....it all started with the first lie...then he covered his tracks by attempting to turn this kid in a gang member, a thug, a drug dealer, a hoodlum, a burglar, all these things that he knew white people would eat up...He committed the perfect murder and had the perfect jury, and perfect system to help him get away with it..it's laughable that a thug, gangsta...

Skittles and Ice Tea..the weapon of choice for thug, burgler, gangsta...

Sorry, none of what you wrote matters to the case at all. Zimmerman could say he rode on a unicorn and drank magic Jesus juice. Only one thing matters: Is there a reasonable doubt as to whether Zimmerman murdered Martin or acted in self-defense. Bloody faced Zimmerman + no blood or marks on Martin + plausible story of being attacked + no real evidence to contradict Zimmerman's story = not guilty. Note that I said "evidence." You write a lot of words but there is no evidence among them.

You are certainly giving some ideas of another scenario but there is not enough evidence for what you say to remove reasonable doubt as to what happened. There would need to be a lot more evidence to even come close.

[jeebus]

http://i.imgur.com/c2wVXlZ.jpg

[Spursfan092120]

http://i.imgur.com/c2wVXlZ.jpg
bit much there, bro.

[irishock]

:lol :lol :lol

[pad300]

You're missing the point. The national story didn't come from the fact that Trayvon was killed. It came from the fact that he was killed and walked around for 44 days without so much as an arrest or an investigation from the authorities. I'm pretty sure those black-kids you're speaking of were arrested on the spot and justice was swiftly handed down. Racism is wrong both ways, the difference is how many blacks do you see trying to justify those kinds of racial situations?

Yet another lying, race-baiting asshole. Zimmerman was taken into custody and there was investigation... the local cops (& prosecutor) concluded that there wasn't a chance in hell of getting a conviction and released Zimmerman. Then political pressure brought in an outside prosecutor, who, by the way, avoided a grand jury review of the evidence and took it straight to trial... and Zimmerman was, just like the local cops and prosecutor expected, was found not guilty. What a waste of everyone's money and time by the race-baiting assholes... Not to mention Zimmerman's life thrown under the bus. If the race-baiting assholes hadn't made this into a bullshit mess, Zimmerman's completely innocent parents wouldn't have been forced out of their home by death threats... Lots of collateral damage that race-baiting assholes do, so that they can maintain a locked in voting block. Must suck to be a young black kid in the States, because the leadership likes the people ignorant, gullible and poor... need that voting block for the "good of the people" - not that anyone but the race-baiting assholes are really doing good out of it. Hope that kind of assholery doesn't get started where I live.

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Yet another lying, race-baiting asshole. Zimmerman was taken into custody and there was investigation... the local cops (& prosecutor) concluded that there wasn't a chance in hell of getting a conviction and released Zimmerman. Then political pressure brought in an outside prosecutor, who, by the way, avoided a grand jury review of the evidence and took it straight to trial... and Zimmerman was, just like the local cops and prosecutor expected, was found not guilty. What a waste of everyone's money and time by the race-baiting assholes... Not to mention Zimmerman's life thrown under the bus. If the race-baiting assholes hadn't made this into a bullshit mess, Zimmerman's completely innocent parents wouldn't have been forced out of their home by death threats... Lots of collateral damage that race-baiting assholes do, so that they can maintain a locked in voting block. Must suck to be a young black kid in the States, because the leadership likes the people ignorant, gullible and poor... need that voting block for the "good of the people" - not that anyone but the race-baiting assholes are really doing good out of it. Hope that kind of assholery doesn't get started where I live.

It's gets better than this, but, I'll be damned if I can cite it.

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[Rogue]

Zimmerman's smile in the court looked malicious though, like he just got away with a crime... Police and investigators found him non-guilty, and I don't have no solid evidence to rebut their conclusion, but I don't think smiling is the right thing to do in the court of law like you had just won a prize. Martin's family already suffered a lot from his demise and what Zimmerman did in the court was like sprinkling salt over their wound.

[Koolaid_Man]

Zimmerman's smile in the court looked malicious though, like he just got away with a crime... Police and investigators found him non-guilty, and I don't have no solid evidence to rebut their conclusion, but I don't think smiling is the right thing to do in the court of law like you had just won a prize. Martin's family already suffered a lot from his demise and what Zimmerman did in the court was like sprinkling salt over their wound.

cuz he's guilty... I will say this...Tray fell victim because he was kid to young to carry...from my POV may he RIP....however, all this has done is galvanized us brothers....I will say this to any of you Zimmerman enthusiasts...I don't care how young or old...you run up on me like you did that kid and you're a footnote in history...not only am I willing but I'm literally dying for the opportunity...my pops always taught me growing up..: "If someone breaks in stay low son because I'm aiming high." and rest assured Kool will never yes I said never be a Trayvon Martin...you guys think I'm kidding I relish the opportunity for a cowboy to accost me that way...I pray for it...man I want it to happen so bad I can taste it...real talk

[Rogue]

I don't have no right nor evidence to incriminate George Zimmerman, I just think it was the wrong thing to do to smirk at such a tragedy. May not be a crime but it was a true tragedy indubitably.

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cuz he's guilty... I will say this...Tray fell victim because he was kid to young to carry...from my POV may he RIP....however, all this has done is galvanized us brothers....I will say this to any of you Zimmerman enthusiasts...I don't care how young or old...you run up on me like you did that kid and you're a footnote in history...not only am I willing but I'm literally dying for the opportunity...my pops always taught me growing up..: "If someone breaks in stay low son because I'm aiming high." and rest assured Kool will never yes I said never be a Trayvon Martin...you guys think I'm kidding I relish the opportunity for a cowboy to accost me that way...I pray for it...man I want it to happen so bad I can taste it...real talk

Better hope it never actually happens, fool. One of the problems that the prosecutor had in this case was proving "depraved mind" - which is necessary for a 2nd degree murder conviction. Couldn't find anything in Zimmerman's history to convince the jury. This post on the other hand... " man I want it to happen so bad I can taste it...real talk"...that there's prime "depraved mind". They'll lock you up and throw away the key - Kool the prison bitch... still, wouldn't inconvenience your lifestyle I suppose.

[Koolaid_Man]

And Trayvon was a perfect child

He wasn't a thug? Looking at his record you're saying he wasn't? And I guess Zimmerman posted these on his facebook, too...

http://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/trayvondrugdealing-2.jpg


Skittles + Iced Tea + Codeine or Robitussin = lean...
Guess you Californians don't know 'bout that Lean.

for the record..that's not proof of anything...looks like a Photoshopped web page...and smoking pot...please....name a me white kid who doesn't...:lol what a piss poor attempt to paint a guy as thug..it's not even a legititamate news site...post something from a credible source like I did...and I'd say attacking a police officer, beating your fiance, and molesting your cousin (all documented facts) >>>>>>>>>> than smoking pot as a teen

you fail try again

[Chief Brody]

I'd smile too if the American justice system prevailed over an MSNBC-manufactured emotional non-story.

[Koolaid_Man]

Better hope it never actually happens, fool. One of the problems that the prosecutor had in this case was proving "depraved mind" - which is necessary for a 2nd degree murder conviction. Couldn't find anything in Zimmerman's history to convince the jury. This post on the other hand... " man I want it to happen so bad I can taste it...real talk"...that there's prime "depraved mind". They'll lock you up and throw away the key - Kool the prison bitch... still, wouldn't inconvenience your lifestyle I suppose.

I want it to happen so bad I can taste it....and if you feeling froggy then jump....

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I want it to happen so bad I can taste it....and if you feeling froggy then jump....

Maybe it's cultural, but this whole law abiding adult human being with no interest in getting into a fight for nothing, you just don't get it...The whole self defense thing is not about I wanna shoot somebody, it's I will shoot somebody if I have to, to protect myself, my family, friends and property. It's not an excuse to go around blowing people away...

[chrhawk]

Yet another lying, race-baiting asshole. Zimmerman was taken into custody and there was investigation... the local cops (& prosecutor) concluded that there wasn't a chance in hell of getting a conviction and released Zimmerman. Then political pressure brought in an outside prosecutor, who, by the way, avoided a grand jury review of the evidence and took it straight to trial... and Zimmerman was, just like the local cops and prosecutor expected, was found not guilty. What a waste of everyone's money and time by the race-baiting assholes... Not to mention Zimmerman's life thrown under the bus. If the race-baiting assholes hadn't made this into a bullshit mess, Zimmerman's completely innocent parents wouldn't have been forced out of their home by death threats... Lots of collateral damage that race-baiting assholes do, so that they can maintain a locked in voting block. Must suck to be a young black kid in the States, because the leadership likes the people ignorant, gullible and poor... need that voting block for the "good of the people" - not that anyone but the race-baiting assholes are really doing good out of it. Hope that kind of assholery doesn't get started where I live.

Ironic that you accuse me of "race-baiting" when more than half of the people in this thread have made every attempt to de-humanize Trayvon by posting fake photos of him, saying he was a drug dealer and a thug even though there is no concrete proof of this all the while ignoring the concrete evidence that their "hero" Zimmerman has had anger issues, beat his girlfriend and allegedly molested his cousin. All of this to attempt to justify this grown man following this teenager while carrying a loaded weapon. But I'm the one "race-baiting", if you say so. And the Sanford "investigation" was conducted poorly. The police did not test Mr. Zimmerman for alcohol or drug use that night of the shooting but they tested Martin's corpse. The door-to-door canvassing was half-assed. The Martin family only knew what became of their sun days later after they conducted a search party. If not for the inept and bungling police department on the other end of this, the shooting of Trayvon Martin wouldn't have made national headlines. It would be swept under the carpet just like countless others in Florida

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Ironic that you accuse me of "race-baiting" when more than half of the people in this thread have made every attempt to de-humanize Trayvon by posting fake photos of him, saying he was a drug dealer and a thug even though there is no concrete proof of this all the while ignoring the concrete evidence that their "hero" Zimmerman has had anger issues, beat his girlfriend and allegedly molested his cousin. All of this to attempt to justify this grown man following this teenager while carrying a loaded weapon. But I'm the one "race-baiting", if you say so. And the Sanford "investigation" was conducted poorly. The police did not test Mr. Zimmerman for alcohol or drug use that night of the shooting but they tested Martin's corpse. The door-to-door canvassing was half-assed. The Martin family only knew what became of their sun days later after they conducted a search party. If not for the inept and bungling police department on the other end of this, the shooting of Trayvon Martin wouldn't have made national headlines. It would be swept under the carpet just like countless others in Florida

Yeah, you're race baiting, just like the prosecution. There is ZIP physical evidence that disagrees in the slightest with Zimmerman's story, at that point, establishing guilt beyond reasonable doubt is essentially impossible. Which means bringing the case was a complete waste of time - it only served one purpose, trying to stir up racial tension (and therefore the black and minority turnout) prior to the 2012 election... Now, whatever comes up, Zimmerman walks because of double jeopardy. So making a carrying on, making a cause celebre out of the case, has only one purpose - stirring up racial tension. So yeah, race baiting.

[Spursfan092120]

for the record..that's not proof of anything...looks like a Photoshopped web page...and smoking pot...please....name a me white kid who doesn't...:lol what a piss poor attempt to paint a guy as thug..it's not even a legititamate news site...post something from a credible source like I did...and I'd say attacking a police officer, beating your fiance, and molesting your cousin (all documented facts) >>>>>>>>>> than smoking pot as a teen

you fail try again
Good God, son..you are so hypocritical. You are using a hypothetical situation as your arguments and yet you take actual evidence and say it looks fake to you. He did a hell of a lot more than smoke pot..and you know that shit, too..it just doesn't suit your argument.

[phoenix219]

everything that Zimmerman said is hear say and doubt...that dude is a liar....it all started with the first lie...then he covered his tracks by attempting to turn this kid in a gang member, a thug, a drug dealer, a hoodlum, a burglar, all these things that he knew white people would eat up...He committed the perfect murder and had the perfect jury, and perfect system to help him get away with it..it's laughable that a thug, gangsta...

Skittles and Ice Tea..the weapon of choice for thug, burgler, gangsta...

Fuck that Ice Tea. It was Watermelon juice and an ingredient of "lean" aka "sizzurp", of which the main ingredient is codeine, and there are messages archived of little innocent Trayvon looking for a codeine hook up! This media spin to turn this into anything but a troubled kid sent away because he caused too much trouble, acting shady in a neighborhood with a history of burglary, and attacking the god damn neighborhood watch that was looking to see how the mysterious person in the hoodie in the rain was doing. If he was really doing what his defenders claim, he would have either 1) been home eating his damn candy already or 2) been conversating past the point of "Do you have a problem? Well you do now." before any type of confrontation took place. The kid had a history of fighting (people asking him to teach them to fight) and assault (his teacher at school, and possibly a bus driver) - this is all FACTS that are RECORDED - inadmissable, because past events are irrelevent to the present case - and even with just the current facts there was *nothing* to indicate anything other than exactly what Zimmerman said. At one point, they baited Zimmerman by claiming it was recorded, and his response?? A *relieved* "THANK GOD" - no guilty person would *ever* react that way! He had called the cops, identified himself, and was waiting for the cops, yet he was out there with the agenda to commit murder? Get the fuck outta here. Witnesses, bodily injuries, forensics proof, all back up Zimmerman. This is one of the biggest shams i've seen in my life.

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Well heres what i get for posting before i finish the thread. Spursfan posted exactly what I was talking about. Good stuff. Mad props to him throughout this thread, and Cubby, yer the fuckin man.

[Jacob1983]

What's going to be the shelf life on this shit? Will we still be talking about this in a month? When will people start to move on and not give a shit anymore?

[phoenix219]

Zimmerman's smile in the court looked malicious though, like he just got away with a crime... Police and investigators found him non-guilty, and I don't have no solid evidence to rebut their conclusion, but I don't think smiling is the right thing to do in the court of law like you had just won a prize. Martin's family already suffered a lot from his demise and what Zimmerman did in the court was like sprinkling salt over their wound.

After going through what he has for the last 2 years, and having the possibility of jail hanging over his head, knowing the world is against him? Fuck yeah I would be smiling. That had to have been the biggest weight off his shoulders. And you're getting on him for being happy for him??

This whole thing smells real funny...

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What's going to be the shelf life on this shit? Will we still be talking about this in a month? When will people start to move on and not give a shit anymore?

When Hussein Obama says so. And not one fucking minute sooner. He'll tell Media and Media will tell "you" and you'll tell each other.

[Trill Clinton]

when did you nerds become experts on "lean" and when did watermelon juice and skittles become ingredients to make it?http://i44.tinypic.com/27zit1e.png so any kid going to the corner store with now n laters and sprite is also making lean? what about mike&ikes and big red? GTFOH.

i don't do drugs anymore, but i used to sip lean frequently when i was a young knucklehead and the only candy we used were jolly ranchers(which was rare because it tastes better with just promethazine/codeine &sprite) and even then trayvon had no trace of opiates in his system so......

[chrhawk]

when did you nerds become experts on "lean" and when did watermelon juice and skittles become ingredients to make it?http://i44.tinypic.com/27zit1e.png so any kid going to the corner store with now n laters and sprite is also making lean? what about mike&ikes and big red? GTFOH.

i don't do drugs anymore, but i used to sip lean frequently when i was a young knucklehead and the only candy we used were jolly ranchers(which was rare because it tastes better with just promethazine/codeine &sprite) and even then trayvon had no trace of opiates in his system so......

Don't even try to reason with them. They're going to grasp at any straw no matter how short it is to justify a grown man taking the life of a black teenager. I think we all know the answer to this. But if aggressive black wannabe cop named DeSean who had a history of beating his wife, assaulting a police officer, flunked out of most his classes and allegedly molested his cousin shot a weed-smoking and hoodie wearing white teenager under the same circumstances; would they be attempting to defend the shooter with this much vigor? And would they trying this hard to de-humanize the victim?