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Blake
08-13-2013, 10:52 AM
I'm just saying it's possible since the rule does exist. I don't think they have the balls to do it.
If they don't have concrete proof that he violated ncaa bylaws, they would be leaving themselves wide open to a huge lawsuit that they would most likely lose.
I'd say for all practical purposes, they need proof.
Bill_Brasky
08-13-2013, 11:02 AM
Yeah. I think Manziel did it. Just like we all thought OJ did it.
The only question is when the ESPN special featuring ultra light dramatic piano music will be released....
Some people don't understand that after Scam Newton and Miami the NCAA has no credibility and won't do jack shit unless presented with undeniable evidence.
Like the Freeh Report with Penn State, which had as much subpoena power has the NCAA, zilch, and was pretty much one mans opinion without intervieweing a couple of key people.
I'm not saying Ped Aggy didn't deserve punishment, but the NCAA used a report that some holes. The bottom line the NCAA does things with little rhyme or reason the majority of the time and trying to guess what they will do next is almost anyones best guess.
Like the Freeh Report with Penn State, which had as much subpoena power has the NCAA, zilch, and was pretty much one mans opinion without intervieweing a couple of key people.
I'm not saying Ped Aggy didn't deserve punishment, but the NCAA used a report that some holes. The bottom line the NCAA does things with little rhyme or reason the majority of the time and trying to guess what they will do next is almost anyones best guess.
Are you seriously trying to put money for autographs in the same galaxy as a cover up for sexually assaulting underage boys?
leemajors
08-13-2013, 12:40 PM
Are you seriously trying to put money for autographs in the same galaxy as a cover up for sexually assaulting underage boys?
If you're deliberately trying to misunderstand him, sure.
If you're deliberately trying to misunderstand him, sure.
He's talking about how the NCAA handled the information put before them. They will not act as swiftly and with such force on an investigation regarding autographs.
leemajors
08-13-2013, 12:55 PM
He's talking about how the NCAA handled the information put before them. They will not act as swiftly and with such force on an investigation regarding autographs.
The bottom line the NCAA does things with little rhyme or reason the majority of the time and trying to guess what they will do next is almost anyones best guess.
DesignatedT
08-13-2013, 01:02 PM
So just because a broker says he didn't pay JF doesn't mean he didn't. Brokers are strange breed of people so it is hard to either believe what they say or don't admit to.
This goes both ways you know. Just because a broker is claiming they did pay JF doesn't mean he did.
DesignatedT
08-13-2013, 01:04 PM
Common sense is lacking in alot yalls post..Honestly, do you believe Manzeil went to florida and signed thousands of autographs to a broker with no compensation?
Players like Jadaveon Clowney and Teddy Bridgewater have both sat down and down signings in bulk. Maybe they only did it a couple times and it wasn't as significant as Manziel's signings but they have. So, according to some of you this is enough evidence to suspend them also?
My point remains, Lee. They are far more likely to act harshly toward an investigation involving children being molested than a QB signing for cash.
yavozerb
08-13-2013, 01:15 PM
Players like Jadaveon Clowney and Teddy Bridgewater have both sat down and down signings in bulk. Maybe they only did it a couple times and it wasn't as significant as Manziel's signings but they have. So, according to some of you this is enough evidence to suspend them also?
Cannot answer for other posters but Clowney's and Bridgewaters signing seemed to have been cleared by there schools and are in the hundreds if all sessions are added together. Manzeil dd over a 1000 in 1 session alone in florida and I have not heard 1 ATM official defend these signings yet. Dude, if Manzeil played for UT you would be all this board saying how guilty he is. Its ok to defend one of your own but please quit trying to compare him to other players cause there has never been any other case like this.
DesignatedT
08-13-2013, 01:28 PM
Cannot answer for other posters but Clowney's and Bridgewaters signing seemed to have been cleared by there schools and are in the hundreds if all sessions are added together. Manzeil dd over a 1000 in 1 session alone in florida and I have not heard 1 ATM official defend these signings yet. Dude, if Manzeil played for UT you would be all this board saying how guilty he is. Its ok to defend one of your own but please quit trying to compare him to other players cause there has never been any other case like this.
Oh my gosh. I never said Manziel was innocent. If you go back in the thread you will clearly see me post multiple times that I think he's probably guilty of at least some, if not all these accusations. Do I care? No. I think it's a stupid rule but that's a different discussion. If Clowney or Bridgewater were facing potential suspension for signing their name I wouldn't want them suspended either. These are the best players in college football.
What I have been saying in this thread is that yeah, you can easily come to the conclusion that Johnny probably did these things, but that still shouldn't be enough to suspend a player. For the NCAA to suspend a player they should have to collect hard evidence and facts of the matter. Not "well who would sign 1,000 items for no compensation? suspend him." - No, that's not good enough for me.
He got payed? Ok show me how. Pretty convenient that all these brokers who allegedly "payed" Manziel for his signature also all claim they did not see any exchange of money...... Zero brokers saw an actual exchange. So we have 8 brokers come out, only a couple who have actually said they payed him on the record but NONE have seen an exchange of money? Then who, why, where, when was the money for these signatures exchanged? How do the brokers not know this?
Cannot answer for other posters but Clowney's and Bridgewaters signing seemed to have been cleared by there schools and are in the hundreds if all sessions are added together. Manzeil dd over a 1000 in 1 session alone in florida and I have not heard 1 ATM official defend these signings yet. Dude, if Manzeil played for UT you would be all this board saying how guilty he is. Its ok to defend one of your own but please quit trying to compare him to other players cause there has never been any other case like this.
Please read what we are saying or get out of this thread. How dense can you possibly be?
The NCAA doesn't need proof of Johnny getting paid to suspend him over the autographs.... according to bylaw 12.5.2.2, memorabilia being "sold or promoted under a student's name" is enough to constitute a violation, and that's exactly what's being done here, tbh....
That being said, common sense dictates Johnny was clearly taking money to sign that much shit.... bama went through this issue with Richardson. what has to be done by the NCAA is that they have to prove that the athlete knew he was signing items that would be then sold for profit. of course, as jay bilas pointed out, the NCAA was more or less violating their own rule (which is why the NCAA was so quick to remove items from their website).
Are you seriously trying to put money for autographs in the same galaxy as a cover up for sexually assaulting underage boys?
Wow, you really missed the boat on that one.
He's talking about how the NCAA handled the information put before them. They will not act as swiftly and with such force on an investigation regarding autographs.
Wrong again. I was trying to imply that the NCAA has used information that was not fully verified. In the Freeh report the NCAA relied on Freeh's opinion when he like the NCAA did not have subpoena power and did not interview many key people involved. This was to counter act Bill's comment that the NCAA would not act unless it had undeniable evidence, because they have in the past and that it is hard to predict what the NCAA will do on a case by case basis.
Was in no way trying to compare the infractions comitted in the cases, and for you even to suggest that means you are either (a) retarded or (b) can't read. I am guessing it is a combination of both.
This goes both ways you know. Just because a broker is claiming they did pay JF doesn't mean he did.
Oh yeah no doubt. I was trying to imply that in my post a little bit but it didn't come out like that. Relying on those brokers is a double edged sword for sure.
Wrong again. I was trying to imply that the NCAA has used information that was not fully verified. In the Freeh report the NCAA relied on Freeh's opinion when he like the NCAA did not have subpoena power and did not interview many key people involved. This was to counter act Bill's comment that the NCAA would not act unless it had undeniable evidence, because they have in the past and that it is hard to predict what the NCAA will do on a case by case basis.
Was in no way trying to compare the infractions comitted in the cases, and for you even to suggest that means you are either (a) retarded or (b) can't read. I am guessing it is a combination of both.
You are comparing how the NCAA might handle a case about signatures with how they handled a case about sexual assault, no?
ChumpDumper
08-13-2013, 05:59 PM
The Freeh Report wasn't commissioned by the NCAA but they did use its findings as a basis for sanctions.
You are comparing how the NCAA might handle a case about signatures with how they handled a case about sexual assault, no?
Strike three. Not comparing how the case are/would/could/should be handled. Bill stated that the NCAA should use undeniable evidence in judgements and I pointed out a recent sanction in which the NCAA relied on a person's opinion who did not have subpoena power like the NCAA. Nothing more nothing less. No comparison to the scenarios in the least bit.
Strike three. Not comparing how the case are/would/could/should be handled. Bill stated that the NCAA should use undeniable evidence in judgements and I pointed out a recent sanction in which the NCAA relied on a person's opinion who did not have subpoena power like the NCAA. Nothing more nothing less. No comparison to the scenarios in the least bit.
So you're just saying how they used evidence for no reason at all? Pretty pointless post, then.
So you're just saying how they used evidence for no reason at all? Pretty pointless post, then.
You seriously can't read. Not what I said at all. Please go back to grade school.
The bottom line is you referenced how the NCAA acted on a case that involved molestation. I am saying that they will/would act differently in a case that doesn't involve a criminal act.
Interesting tweet from Tom Penders (coached horns BB for 10 years)
Tom Penders (https://twitter.com/TomPenders)
Verified account@TomPenders (https://twitter.com/TomPenders)
@CoachSumlin (https://twitter.com/CoachSumlin) Hang tough Kevin.! UT is trying to cut down your legacy. I know the feeling.! Keep supporting Johnny Football.....TP.!
The bottom line is you referenced how the NCAA acted on a case that involved molestation. I am saying that they will/would act differently in a case that doesn't involve a criminal act.
You are thinking way to hard on the original post. You are insisting that I am comparing the acts atributable to an NCAA investigation with the process of an NCAA investigation. How come that is so hard for you to comprehend?
Plus you also missed what I said in the original post:
The bottom line the NCAA does things with little rhyme or reason the majority of the time and trying to guess what they will do next is almost anyones best guess.
Interesting tweet from Tom Penders (coached horns BB for 10 years)
Disgruntled fired coach... There is no connection whatsoever between AGGY fail and UT except when UT is playing AGGY on the field.
pgardn
08-14-2013, 08:17 AM
Interesting tweet from Tom Penders (coached horns BB for 10 years)
Interesting?
Bizzare is the word. What exactly has UT got to do with this mess?
ATM will do fine on their own producing coaching legacies. Thank you Jackie Sherril and Dennis Franchise.
Blake
08-14-2013, 08:23 AM
Interesting tweet from Tom Penders (coached horns BB for 10 years)
that has all the signs of being a drunk tweet
leemajors
08-14-2013, 09:00 AM
Interesting?
Bizzare is the word. What exactly has UT got to do with this mess?
ATM will do fine on their own producing coaching legacies. Thank you Jackie Sherril and Dennis Franchise.
nothing, he is talking about ESPN.
Clipper Nation
08-14-2013, 11:08 AM
Interesting tweet from Tom Penders (coached horns BB for 10 years)
:lol If Tom Penders coached Aggie, he'd have long since melted down and released Fagball's grades to the media....
DesignatedT
08-14-2013, 11:25 AM
:lol If Tom Penders coached Aggie, he'd have long since melted down and released Fagball's grades to the media....
:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:l ol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol :lol:lol:lol:lol
DesignatedT
08-14-2013, 11:30 AM
The “World Wide Leader In Sports” is focusing all of its resources on Manziel, and ignoring the other star athletes in college who have similar numbers of signed memorabilia available online.
ESPN’s focus on Manziel indicates either a surprising lack of effort by their investigative journalists, or a bias against Manziel and Texas A&M. There is simply no easy way to explain the sports channel’s motives, nor the inconsistencies in the story.
http://lastwordonsports.com/2013/08/14/espn-breaking-basic-journalism-rules-on-johnny-manziel/
leemajors
08-14-2013, 12:17 PM
http://lastwordonsports.com/2013/08/14/espn-breaking-basic-journalism-rules-on-johnny-manziel/
Outside of Matt Thaibi and very few others, investigative journalism has been dead for some time. ESPN also has to fill time and people pay attention to this story.
ChumpDumper
08-14-2013, 12:35 PM
http://lastwordonsports.com/2013/08/14/espn-breaking-basic-journalism-rules-on-johnny-manziel/Aggie tears.
Johnny Football won the Heisman and is a media whore douche and now Aggie doesn't like the spotlight.
Bill_Brasky
08-14-2013, 12:48 PM
Aggie tears.
Johnny Football won the Heisman and is a media whore douche and now Aggie doesn't like the spotlight.
:lol no evidence
:lol Clowney, Bridgewater, etc being ignored when they have just as many items as Manziel
:lol ESPN's sources being drug dealers and shady criminals
:lol Darren Rovelle being duped by a teenager
ChumpDumper
08-14-2013, 12:53 PM
Why would anyone think this wouldn't be a story?
You guys think it has to be a conspiracy. It's not.
Bill_Brasky
08-14-2013, 12:57 PM
So you can go around saying whatever you want about people with no proof to back it up now and it's a story. Interesting.
The only conspiracy here is ESPN trying to make more money.
leemajors
08-14-2013, 12:58 PM
So you can go around saying whatever you want about people with no proof to back it up now and it's a story. Interesting.
The only conspiracy here is ESPN trying to make more money.
21st century journalism tbh, it's not just ESPN. Throw shit on wall, see if it sticks.
ChumpDumper
08-14-2013, 01:06 PM
So you can go around saying whatever you want about people with no proof to back it up now and it's a story. Interesting.Manziel is free to sue if there is some kind of defamation happening. Is he suing?
The only conspiracy here is ESPN trying to make more money.Wow. A company wants to make money? Now people are butthurt about capitalism.
Manziel is free to sue if there is some kind of defamation happening. Is he suing?
Yeah, suing ESPN would be great for his image.
Clipper Nation
08-14-2013, 03:31 PM
http://lastwordonsports.com/2013/08/14/espn-breaking-basic-journalism-rules-on-johnny-manziel/
Editor’s Note: Last Word on Sports is pleased to welcome Michael Taglienti as a new writer to the LWOS team. A texas resident and Texas A&M and Dallas Cowboys fan, Mike will be providing excellent and analytical commentary on college basketball, college football and the NFL.
http://lastwordonsports.com/2013/04/19/shabazz-muhammad-proves-once-again-one-and-done-players-are-not-worth-the-effort/
Yeahhh, he's not biased or anything.... :lol
DesignatedT
08-14-2013, 03:35 PM
Another one:
And if the NCAA is investigating Manziel for these incidents, how can they not look into South Carolina stud defensive end Jadeveon Clowney? The autograph authentication firm of PSA/DNA says they've validated "many, many" Clowney signatures this offseason, according to its president, Joe Orlando. "There were at least two lots of over 300 consecutive-number authentications of Mr. Clowney's signature," Orlando says.
No articles by ESPN on Clowney though, odd.
http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/9567169/rick-reilly-ncaa-autographs?ex_cid=espnapi_public
Good read on the autograph subject here by Rick Reilly. Another biased journalist I guess.
Yeahhh, he's not biased or anything.... :lol
Another one:
No articles by ESPN on Clowney though, odd.
http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/9567169/rick-reilly-ncaa-autographs?ex_cid=espnapi_public
Good read on the autograph subject here by Rick Reilly. Another biased journalist I guess.
:lmao
Blake
08-14-2013, 04:00 PM
Yeah, suing ESPN would be great for his image.
Like showing up to a frat party in Austin
Aggie tears.
Johnny Football won the Heisman and is a media whore douche and now Aggie doesn't like the spotlight. personally, as a spurs fan who is used to seeing the spurs get ignored as much as the media can possibly ignore a championship caliber team, i'm loving it. the one negative is that as a college football fan, i'm a little bothered that espn has diluted its coverage of actual football at the expense of their scandal de jour.
Like showing up to a frat party in Austin he should have topped that off with a visit to a bama frat house
Like showing up to a frat party in Austin
I think suing ESPN is a bit larger of a hit than going to a college party.
leemajors
08-14-2013, 04:12 PM
personally, as a spurs fan who is used to seeing the spurs get ignored as much as the media can possibly ignore a championship caliber team, i'm loving it. the one negative is that as a college football fan, i'm a little bothered that espn has diluted its coverage of actual football at the expense of their scandal de jour.
well, no real football is being played tbh
Blake
08-14-2013, 05:00 PM
I think suing ESPN is a bit larger of a hit than going to a college party.
I don't.
And even then I don't think he gives a fuck about image.
Vito Corleone
08-14-2013, 06:03 PM
Some people in this thread don't seem to get that when you accuse somebody of something the burden is on you have to have 100% proof to back your claim. That is how reality works.
Since when does reality apply to the NCAA
Reality is people get paid for the work they do, but not in the world of the NCAA
Reality is it's none of anybodies business what I do or what anyone else does with their money, but not in the world of the NCAA
Reality is I can take my kid and his friends out to dinner, but in the world of the NCAA this is a violation if the friends are athletes.
The NCAA lives in their own little world, it's a world where they make the rules.
symple19
08-14-2013, 09:54 PM
War Damn Johnny. Can't wait until nothing comes of this, and he goes on to lead the Aggs to glory (with a loss to Auburn, of course :lol)
Got nothing but sympathy for Aggie, unless of course there is concrete evidence he broke the (NCAA) law.
ChumpDumper
08-15-2013, 04:12 AM
Yeah, suing ESPN would be great for his image.What has he done since winning the Heisman to help his image?
ChumpDumper
08-15-2013, 04:17 AM
No articles by ESPN on Clowney though, odd.You must not have actually looked.
pgardn
08-15-2013, 08:07 AM
What has he done since winning the Heisman to help his image?
Awhhhh...
He is only 20 years old and he likes to party.
Its not his fault he won that stinking award and what goes with it.
DesignatedT
08-15-2013, 09:30 AM
You must not have actually looked.
You're right. He's getting just as much pub as Manziel on this issue.
Bill_Brasky
08-15-2013, 09:49 AM
Manziel is free to sue if there is some kind of defamation happening. Is he suing?
Wow. A company wants to make money? Now people are butthurt about capitalism.
ESPN is a media outlet and should be held to a higher standard, even if it's just sports news. The point of media isn't to make money, they have a responsibility to check their shit and make sure they're covered before running a story.
Cool strawman though.
ChumpDumper
08-15-2013, 11:15 AM
You're right. He's getting just as much pub as Manziel on this issue.Goalpost move and straw man. You said there were no articles about him on ESPN. I said you're wrong. I am right.
ESPN is a media outlet and should be held to a higher standard, even if it's just sports news. The point of media isn't to make money, they have a responsibility to check their shit and make sure they're covered before running a story.
Cool strawman though.They are covered. That was my point.
Cool ignorance of the goal of a business though.
ChumpDumper
08-15-2013, 11:22 AM
Awhhhh...
He is only 20 years old and he likes to party.
Its not his fault he won that stinking award and what goes with it.Now it's a stinking award? lol
I agree he's young and stupid but he's not so young that he can't be held responsible for his stupid actions.
Michael Jordan.
08-15-2013, 11:32 AM
Lol aggy. "We're going to the SEC so we can grt better recruits and more exposure as long as its not negative"
ChumpDumper
08-15-2013, 11:36 AM
It's got to be weird so doggedly defending a guy who still wants to go to UT.
Since when does reality apply to the NCAA
Reality is people get paid for the work they do, but not in the world of the NCAA
Reality is it's none of anybodies business what I do or what anyone else does with their money, but not in the world of the NCAA
Reality is I can take my kid and his friends out to dinner, but in the world of the NCAA this is a violation if the friends are athletes.
The NCAA lives in their own little world, it's a world where they make the rules.
it is indeed, but the one thing a&m has in its favor is that world lacks the power of subpoena which will hinder the NCAA's ability to gather a paper trail.
It's got to be weird so doggedly defending a guy who still wants to go to UT. not really. UT has an offensive coordinator who wanted to be an aggie. what one school loses another school gains. if that makes people feel weird they really shouldn't follow college football.
ChumpDumper
08-15-2013, 01:54 PM
Yeah, offensive coordinator. That is exactly the same as Heisman winner. UT's offensive coordinator is going to be on the cover of next month's Texas Monthly posing as Batman.
Yeah, offensive coordinator. That is exactly the same as Heisman winner. UT's offensive coordinator is going to be on the cover of next month's Texas Monthly posing as Batman.
Batman?
Aaron Rodgers on Johnny's situation:
“I love our game, but to me, there’s too much access. It’s way over the top. From the camera in the locker room, from the center being miked, to all the attention … Everybody’s watching. Everybody’s listening. And social media: If I’m out, more than likely, there’s going to be a camera on me, and a picture or video’s going to show up somewhere.
“I feel bad for Johnny Manziel. I mean, he’s made some decisions … I just think, he’s a 20-year-old kid, and I wish he could just live like a 20-year-old.
“Ten years ago, when I was in college, nobody was following anyone around. I could walk around campus [at Cal] and no one knew who I was. No Twitter. Facebook was just starting. I didn’t even know what my Berkeley.edu address was. I couldn’t get a Facebook page. So that’s how things have changed.
Clipper Nation
08-15-2013, 03:07 PM
Aggie's chancellor is an idiot :lol
http://www.star-telegram.com/2013/08/15/5083650/am-chancellor-manziel-has-his.html
“He is a good kid. He is an honest kid,” Sharp said. “He has his heart in the right place.”
“My mother wishes I was as nice a kid as Johnny when I was a sophomore in college,” Sharp said.
Sharp said he was speaking for himself when he questioned why the NCAA or a university can profit from an athlete like Manziel, but the athlete can’t profit from himself.
Sharp said college athletes who compete in the Olympics can profit from their names, but NCAA athletes can’t.
Sharp cited the Sherman Antitrust Act and added: “Sooner or later some court is going to say that ain’t right.”
Translation: :cry "The rules shouldn't apply to Aggie or Johnny because we're special and good, honest!" :cry
He's also wrong about the Olympics thing - just ask Jeremy Bloom....
Aggie's chancellor is an idiot :lol
Translation: :cry "The rules shouldn't apply to Aggie or Johnny because we're special and good, honest!" :cry
He's also wrong about the Olympics thing - just ask Jeremy Bloom....
Bloom played football as well. You're trying as hard as you can to be stupid.
Clipper Nation
08-15-2013, 03:13 PM
Nah, Aggie's cornered the market on stupid.... doesn't get more idiotic than their chancellor publicly criticizing the NCAA and pretty much encouraging Aggie's players to break the rules, while also incorrectly citing legislation at a law school speech :lol
Nah, Aggie's cornered the market on stupid.... doesn't get more idiotic than their chancellor publicly criticizing the NCAA and pretty much encouraging Aggie's players to break the rules, while also incorrectly citing legislation at a law school speech :lol
Which part is incorrect?
Clipper Nation
08-15-2013, 03:19 PM
The Sherman Act is invoked by the federal government only, not just "some court" :lol
The Sherman Act is invoked by the federal government only, not just "some court" :lol
Who does the Supreme Court belong to? State or Federal?
Yeah, offensive coordinator. That is exactly the same as Heisman winner. UT's offensive coordinator is going to be on the cover of next month's Texas Monthly posing as Batman. the same OC who was their QB once and will probably be their next head coach. but to my point, it isn't weird at all. i'd rather have a player with a chip on his shoulder. frankly,
i'd be more pissed if I was a UT fan.
ChumpDumper
08-15-2013, 03:35 PM
Batman?Gotta mix it up a little.
http://images.ftw.usatoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Manziel-Texas-Monthly-594x757.jpg
the same OC who was their QB once and will probably be their next head coach. but to my point, it isn't weird at all. i'd rather have a player with a chip on his shoulder. frankly,
i'd be more pissed if I was a UT fan.Nah, they got that offensive coordinator. Exactly the same.
there are precedents where the NCAA's actions have resulted in restraint of trade. still, for now sharp should be careful because his tone could be inferred as a tacit form of approval. at a minimum, his remarks were that of an apologist's.
Nah, they got that offensive coordinator. Exactly the same. i'm not sure if you're being deliberately obtuse or extolling the use of antecedents.
ChumpDumper
08-15-2013, 03:45 PM
i'm not sure if you're being deliberately obtuse or extoling the use of antecedents.Neither.
I'm making fun of you.
Neither.
I'm making fun of you. well, if you have to explain your insults, you're not doing a very good job.
DesignatedT
08-15-2013, 03:46 PM
That's all Texas fans have to live through at the moment. "Well, at least their star player wishes he went to UT". Like anyone fuckin cares :lmao
well, if you have to explain your insults, you're not doing a very good job.
It's a common theme with Chump. His played out schtick... has to try to get noticed somehow.
ChumpDumper
08-15-2013, 04:45 PM
well, if you have to explain your insults, you're not doing a very good job.I overestimated aggie's comprehension abilities.
Sorry, aggie.
Blake
08-15-2013, 04:50 PM
I overestimated aggie's comprehensionabilities.
Sorry, aggie.
That's a common theme with aggy
DesignatedT
08-15-2013, 04:54 PM
Coming from a tech and utsa grad :lmao
ChumpDumper
08-15-2013, 05:30 PM
It was aggie who didn't get it.
Sorry, aggie.
I overestimated aggie's comprehension abilities.
Sorry, aggie. your apology is accepted.
ChumpDumper
08-15-2013, 06:27 PM
No problem. I think Manziel will play the complete season, by virtue of his lawyer's actions if nothing else. There may be some trouble for A&M after the season is over and Manziel drops out of school. Gonna be a gamble for A&M this season. I don't think it's fair for the school or current and future team members, but that's how things work.
No problem. I think Manziel will play the complete season, by virtue of his lawyer's actions if nothing else. There may be some trouble for A&M after the season is over and Manziel drops out of school. Gonna be a gamble for A&M this season. I don't think it's fair for the school or current and future team members, but that's how things work. best case scenario is a cam newton conclusion.
pgardn
08-15-2013, 07:09 PM
Now it's a stinking award? lol
I agree he's young and stupid but he's not so young that he can't be held responsible for his stupid actions.
It was my poor attempt at sarcasm.
The kid is a spoiled brat who happens to be an outstanding athlete.
As a UT grad I can state unequivocally I love(d) watching him.
Hope it is not past tense just as a viewer.
The way aGgIe has reacted, a part of me would love to see them dive.
hoot...
ChumpDumper
08-15-2013, 07:12 PM
It was my poor attempt at sarcasm.It was fine. Hard for me to tell sometimes.
I did go to UTSA after all.
Bill_Brasky
08-15-2013, 08:39 PM
Goalpost move and straw man. You said there were no articles about him on ESPN. I said you're wrong. I am right.
They are covered. That was my point.
Cool ignorance of the goal of a business though.
Yeah, media outlets are normal businesses and their entire point should be to make more money. Fox news is a great news organization because they make a lot of money.
ChumpDumper
08-15-2013, 10:19 PM
Yeah, media outlets are normal businesses and their entire point should be to make more money. Fox news is a great news organization because they make a lot of money.They are normal business whose goal is to make money. Sports news would be stupid to ignore the Manziel story. You don't seem to like it but you sure are reading the stories, aren't you?
Bill_Brasky
08-16-2013, 11:46 AM
They are normal business whose goal is to make money. Sports news would be stupid to ignore the Manziel story. You don't seem to like it but you sure are reading the stories, aren't you?
Actually no, i'm not.
Media should be held to a higher standard. There is trust and credibility involved. You are doing it wrong when TMZ hits on more stories than you do.
ChumpDumper
08-16-2013, 12:29 PM
Actually no, i'm not.Sure, champ.
Media should be held to a higher standard. There is trust and credibility involved. You are doing it wrong when TMZ hits on more stories than you do.TMZ is owned by the same media company as CNN.
Bill_Brasky
08-16-2013, 12:42 PM
Sure, champ.
TMZ is owned by the same media company as CNN.
Neat?
ChumpDumper
08-16-2013, 01:03 PM
Neat?Ain't it though?
Vito Corleone
08-17-2013, 10:01 AM
it is indeed, but the one thing a&m has in its favor is that world lacks the power of subpoena which will hinder the NCAA's ability to gather a paper trail.
Did the Nazi's need a subpoena to put a jew in a concentration camp? Neither does the NCAA need anything to gather a paper trail. They nailed USC, Ohio State, and many other schools. They can easily nail aggsy just the same. Just ask Miami and SMU.
Did the Nazi's need a subpoena to put a jew in a concentration camp? Neither does the NCAA need anything to gather a paper trail. They nailed USC, Ohio State, and many other schools. They can easily nail aggsy just the same. Just ask Miami and SMU.
What the fuck?
Blake
08-17-2013, 10:38 AM
Did the Nazi's need a subpoena to put a jew in a concentration camp? Neither does the NCAA need anything to gather a paper trail. They nailed USC, Ohio State, and many other schools. They can easily nail aggsy just the same. Just ask Miami and SMU.
Yeah, this is about the last place I'd expect to see Godwin's law
Yeah, this is about the last place I'd expect to see Godwin's law
Leave it to Vito...
Clipper Nation
08-17-2013, 12:56 PM
http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/9576372/no-johnny-manziel-blueprint-texas-aggies-write-booster-club
"There simply is no blueprint for handling what Johnny and his family have gone through since December," the email continues.
Translation: "We've known since December that he's been cheating his ass off..."
lolaggie
Clipper Nation
08-18-2013, 07:52 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/johnny-manziel-busy-texas-m-022602590--ncaaf.html
''He was disappointed, you could see it at the end,'' A&M coach Kevin Sumlin said about Manziel's overall average outing. ''He was trying to make every play. But that's about how he does things all of the time.'' Sumlin said Manziel ''blames'' him for blowing the whistle too soon during scrimmages, which doesn't allow Manziel to showcase his scrambling abilities as much as he'd like.
:lol Johnny Coachkiller
DesignatedT
08-18-2013, 10:21 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/johnny-manziel-busy-texas-m-022602590--ncaaf.html
:lol Johnny Coachkiller
0/10.
Texas QB David Ash on Johnny Manziel's offseason issues: "For me, it's only by the grace of God I haven't taken that path."
David Ash: "I have my problems just like Johnny Manziel. Somehow, I keep them from all of you guys.
L O fucking L
http://thebiglead.fantasysportsven.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/ash-derp-12-29-12.gif
Michael Jordan.
08-19-2013, 08:44 PM
The only thing worse than getting beat by David Ash? Getting beat by Case McCoy :lol
Clipper Nation
08-19-2013, 08:49 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iotOdjqumn4
:lmao Eternal scoreboard
:lmao Choking to Case McCry and Mackbrownturdfaggot
:lmao Aggie
How is the winner of that game doing currently?
How is the loser of that game doing currently?
benefactor
08-19-2013, 09:50 PM
:lol deflecting. Cue the "thanks for helping us get rid of Sherman" line.
Aggie lost to Cart McCry Jr...forever.
The Reckoning
08-19-2013, 10:00 PM
Tucker!
:lol deflecting. Cue the "thanks for helping us get rid of Sherman" line.
Aggie lost to Cart McCry Jr...forever.
Facts is facts.
http://therubberchickens.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/sec.jpg
http://static.cloud-texags.edgesuite.net/photos/0021577-tewc-640x360.jpg
ThePop
08-19-2013, 10:50 PM
Random pictures are fun
http://i1328.photobucket.com/albums/w525/TwoPete/johnnyfurk_zpsc3d40e44.png
I agree.
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2012/12/09/sports/09heisman11/09heisman11-articleLarge-v2.jpg
DPG21920
08-20-2013, 12:39 AM
I hope when Johnny scores his first TD this year he pulls a sharpie out of his sock and autographs a pair of tits.
I hope when Johnny scores his first TD this year he pulls a sharpie out of his sock and autographs a pair of tits.
Shut up DPG. Your tiny ass doesnt know anything about Johnny Football or College Football in general.
leemajors
08-20-2013, 08:46 AM
How is the winner of that game doing currently?
How is the loser of that game doing currently?
both 0-0 tbh
Michael Jordan.
08-20-2013, 09:57 AM
How is the winner of that game doing currently?
How is the loser of that game doing currently?
:lol deflecting
:lol Beat by Baby McCoy, the only player worse than David Ass
:lol 76-37-5
Michael Jordan.
08-20-2013, 10:00 AM
Oh, and :lol caring about what Ash says about Manziel.
:lol still concerned about Texas
both 0-0 tbh good point-but to add to sisk's point, if we had won that game Sherman would have saved his job. losing Sherman and his coaching staff was really what reenergized the program. I will give Sherman credit though. he knew how to recruit offensive lineman.
Oh, and :lol caring about what Ash says about Manziel.
:lol still concerned about Texas
actually, ash's comments say more about himself than anything else. he seems like a good kid and no where near as douchy as manziel does. i'd like to see ash succeed and I think he is set to have a solid season.
Blake
08-20-2013, 12:48 PM
How is the winner of that game doing currently?
How is the loser of that game doing currently?
Currently about the same, tbh.
who do you think will have a better record this year?
Oh, and :lol caring about what Ash says about Manziel.
:lol still concerned about Texas
He brought up Manziel. I'm just reporting Aggie related quotes.
Blake
08-20-2013, 01:12 PM
Currently about the same, tbh.
who do you think will have a better record this year?
Blake
08-20-2013, 01:40 PM
Texas A&M
how many games do you think each school will win
DesignatedT
08-20-2013, 02:00 PM
Through conference play:
A&M - 11
Texas - 9
Tech - 5
Blake
08-20-2013, 02:22 PM
Through conference play:
A&M - 11
Texas - 9
Tech - 5
What does "through conference play" mean?
There's only 11 games on aggy's football schedule, so you're basically predicting an undefeated regular season?
What does "through conference play" mean?
There's only 11 games on aggy's football schedule, so you're basically predicting an undefeated regular season?
I'll go ahead and agree with T. Who do you think A&M will lose to this season if Manziel plays?
Blake
08-20-2013, 03:12 PM
I'll go ahead and agree with T. Who do you think A&M will lose to this season if Manziel plays?
I think they at least lose to Alabama and LSU. I'll throw in a wild card and say they lose to Mizz or Arky.
if Aggy goes undefeated, just where do you place them among the great teams of all time?
Since the SEC is all great and all powerful to you SEC cock suckers, it would have to be easily top ten, right?
DesignatedT
08-20-2013, 03:23 PM
What does "through conference play" mean?
There's only 11 games on aggy's football schedule, so you're basically predicting an undefeated regular season?
There's 12 games on our schedule. I got them going 11-1. Through conference play means before conference championship week and bowl week. If 11 regular season wins results in a trip to the SEC championship game, then they could end up with 12 or possibly 13 wins.
Obviously everything hinges on Manziel.
Blake
08-20-2013, 03:27 PM
So is the SEC down or is this aggy team really that good to you guys?
DesignatedT
08-20-2013, 03:28 PM
if Aggy goes undefeated, just where do you place them among the great teams of all time?
Since the SEC is all great and all powerful to you SEC cock suckers, it would have to be easily top ten, right?
As in undefeated through regular season play, conference championship week and a National Title undefeated?
Top 5 team all time if that were to happen.
DesignatedT
08-20-2013, 03:30 PM
So is the SEC down or is this aggy team really that good to you guys?
No the SEC is not down but I will admit that we benefit from a very favorable schedule this year drawing Vanderbilt and Missouri from the east and having 8 home games.
The road you are describing though would still result in wins vs Bama, LSU, SEC east champion(Georgia, Florida, SC?) and a team like Ohio State or another big program, plus numerous other wins vs very solid programs.
Blake
08-20-2013, 03:36 PM
No the SEC is not down but I will admit that we benefit from a very favorable schedule this year drawing Vanderbilt and Missouri from the east and having 8 home games.
The road you are describing though would still result in wins vs Bama, LSU, SEC east champion(Georgia, Florida, SC?) and a team like Ohio State or another big program, plus numerous other wins vs very solid programs.
The road I'm describing? You're the one predicting 11 wins, which basically would mean a trip to the national title game if Bama slips.
lol you left Arky and the Missys off your list of favorable opponents. They scare nobody and we both know it.
DesignatedT
08-20-2013, 03:41 PM
if Aggy goes undefeated, just where do you place them among the great teams of all time?
I never said they were going undefeated. You did. So therefore the road you were describing.
ThePop
08-20-2013, 03:53 PM
How the fuck do you have 8 home games
Blake
08-20-2013, 03:57 PM
I never said they were going undefeated. You did. So therefore the road you were describing.
I didn't say aggy was going undefeated either.
but I agree it is a favorable SEC schedule. If Tech had that schedule, they might win 8 instead of the 6 or 7 they might win this year in the Big 1210
DesignatedT
08-20-2013, 04:07 PM
I didn't say aggy was going undefeated either.
but I agree it is a favorable SEC schedule. If Tech had that schedule, they might win 8 instead of the 6 or 7 they might win this year in the Big 1210
:lmao
Not sure you guys are even going to beat SMU.
Blake
08-20-2013, 04:33 PM
:lmao
Not sure you guys are even going to beat SMU.
Neither was Vegas to start.
The early early line was Tech at (-2). I wish I'd jumped on it at the time since is now moved to (-6).
I may still put a c note on it before it moves past -7.
kingsbury will eventually get tech back on the level they were when leach was there. won't be this year though.
Bill_Brasky
08-20-2013, 09:38 PM
Idk how well we'll do this season but we're gonna beat SMU you fucks.
DesignatedT
08-20-2013, 11:33 PM
That's going to be a good game. I'm looking forward to that one since it will be Friday night.
Blake
08-21-2013, 12:03 AM
lol Garrett Gilbert
Vito Corleone
08-21-2013, 04:51 PM
How is the winner of that game doing currently?
How is the loser of that game doing currently?
Winner of that gave will likely win their conference this year.
The Loser of that game will likely wind up in the capital one bowl as the 4th or 5th place team in their conference yet again.
Vito Corleone
08-21-2013, 04:58 PM
I'll go ahead and agree with T. Who do you think A&M will lose to this season if Manziel plays?
I love aggsy like you.
The more rope you are given the better the hanging.
Aggsy haven't done jack since the Adolph Hitler world tour of 1939 and you now think your shit don't stink and your going to win a championship.
:lmao
Aggsy tears taste like fine wine to me, yours will taste like pure sunshine.
PS - just to set the record straight.
Texas will win the Big 12
Aggsy will have 3 regular season losses and end up in the Capital one bowl
Michael Jordan.
08-21-2013, 05:03 PM
A&M is losing to Bama
DesignatedT
08-21-2013, 05:27 PM
Texas will win the Big 12
Aggsy will have 3 regular season losses and end up in the Capital one bowl
So what's Texas' record going to be?
Blake
08-21-2013, 06:02 PM
I love aggsy like you.
The more rope you are given the better the hanging.
Aggsy haven't done jack since the Adolph Hitler world tour of 1939 and you now think your shit don't stink and your going to win a championship.
:lmao
Aggsy tears taste like fine wine to me, yours will taste like pure sunshine.
PS - just to set the record straight.
Texas will win the Big 12
Aggsy will have 3 regular season losses and end up in the Capital one bowl
I'm not sure if you're aware, but with a plural noun, the S goes at the end of the word.
I love aggsy like you.
The more rope you are given the better the hanging.
Aggsy haven't done jack since the Adolph Hitler world tour of 1939 and you now think your shit don't stink and your going to win a championship.
:lmao
Aggsy tears taste like fine wine to me, yours will taste like pure sunshine.
PS - just to set the record straight.
Texas will win the Big 12
Aggsy will have 3 regular season losses and end up in the Capital one bowl
Let's make a bet. I'll make it even easier on you. I take OU to beat the horns straight up. You take the horns. Loser of the bet cannot post until January 2014.
DesignatedT
08-21-2013, 11:02 PM
Email from the Texas A&M Chancellor:
This is a quick update on our flagship, Texas A&M University. We will have great news on all our institutions coming soon in the newsletter at the end of the month.
As you are all aware, our Heisman Trophy winning, freshman quarterback has been very popular this summer! I hope you saw that I recently supported him at the opening of the Texas A&M School of Law in Fort Worth.
While I did confirm that it was a personal view, my motivation was based on the fact we have had ongoing and productive dialogue with the NCAA during their investigation, as required. However, some members of the media have chosen to declare #2 guilty with no evidence whatsoever.
Darren Rovell of ESPN, who broke this story, has been duped before. During his report on Johnny Manziel, he cites unnamed sources who refuse to provide an interview or any tangible proof. In fact, his "named source," Drew Tieman (initially referred to as the broker), was reportedly booked twice for possession of marijuana and placed on four years probation. He has taken down his Facebook page, changed his telephone number and is refusing attempts to be interviewed by the NCAA. It is surprising that the nation's largest sports channel would support publication with this lack of corroboration.
I look forward to the start of this football season and am confident that we'll once again exceed expectations during our second season in the SEC. We should all be very proud of what Coach Sumlin and his staff are accomplishing here in Aggieland.
And as students at Texas A&M begin their fall semester Monday, I want to assure them all they are making the most important investment of their lives -- one that will provide a $1 million return.
The university ranks first among Texas public colleges and universities in highest return on investment (ROI) according to Affordable Colleges Online which factor in tuition and fee costs, and lifetime earnings for graduates. The ROI attributed to Texas A&M is $1,057,000, only $12,000 below what the online organization attributes to Rice University, the overall leader in Texas.
In a similar report released in May, Texas A&M was ranked fourth in the nation among the most affordable colleges with a high ROI, outranked only by Georgia Tech, State University in New York (SUNY) at New Paltz and the University of Virginia. These rankings come on the heels of Kiplinger's Personal Finance magazine release of the "top 100 best values" in public schools, which ranked Texas A&M 18th in the nation and tops in Texas.
That value can only grow as we continue to show the world that we are the best institution of higher education in the United States. Welcome to the SEC!
Gig 'em!
- John Sharp, Chancellor"
leemajors
08-22-2013, 01:02 AM
the uhh, he is a pothead defense is just as silly as the rest of this circus.
Clipper Nation
08-22-2013, 06:40 AM
That letter does nothing but make Aggie's chancellor look even MORE stupid and delusional, tbh :lol
The Reckoning
08-22-2013, 07:01 AM
aggy dont wanna have to go to da sidelines and talk to the olllllllllll ballcoach....after det one!
maybe the chancellor felt compelled to discuss the matter of manziel to alumni. of course, many t-shirt fans in here may not be familiar with the general tone of alumni mail so they may be confusing it for an official press statement.
RS-FR QB Matt Davis is apparently transferring to JUCO for a year before finding his new home.
http://texags.com/images/spacer.gif
'I know (Manziel) didn't do what they've accused him of doing.'
- John Sharp according to KBTX
RS-FR QB Matt Davis is apparently transferring to JUCO for a year before finding his new home.
it was just a matter of time. with the emergence of hill and kyle allen on the way, he was never going to play. feel bad for him-he was really excited about being an aggie, but he just did not have enough to keep up with the growing competition.
it was just a matter of time. with the emergence of hill and kyle allen on the way, he was never going to play. feel bad for him-he was really excited about being an aggie, but he just did not have enough to keep up with the growing competition.
Definitely feel bad for the guy. Not surprised by it though and wish him the best of luck going forward. He's going to be playing at Tyler Junior College this year.
Strong words from our chancellor.
Steve Fullhart: "The letter that came out yesterday and your comments concerning Manziel have gotten a little bit of play. Any regrets at all on making the comments?"
John Sharp: "Not at all, not at all. I know he's innocent. I know that he didn't do what they accused him of doing, and I think that it's time that we, once we knew what the facts are and we know the facts...and I've seen what everybody else has seen now, and the rest of the country is going to get to see that before it's over with. It was a bunch of hype journalism.
Fullhart: "How do you know he didn't do it?"
Sharp: "I just know. I've seen things that other folks can't see. And it didn't happen. It did not happen."
Fullhart: "Have you heard from his as well, straight from his mouth?"
Sharp: "Don't have to. I don't have to hear from him. I don't have to hear from him. I can hear from his original accusers and what they're saying now. Didn't happen, and I hate it that he would go through it, and I think we all ought to look at it from a point of view of, what if that were our son that was going through that? So take your time look at everything that happened and I don't have any doubt that Johnny Manziel is innocent of stuff that they were throwing at him."
Fullhart: "And if that is the case, should there be repercussions at some level? Can you even foresee that? Obviously there is a free press in this country. They may make a mistake…"
Sharp: "No, I believe in the free press. I think you ought to be able to call anybody anything you want to, and that's what happens. It happens in politics, and it happens in everything else. Fortunately for us, 99.9 percent of the press is great and responsible, especially you. We shouldn't have any gripes about it, but when we see something that, in our mind, is egregious, we shouldn't just sit back and say we're going to take that slap in the face at Texas A&M or we're going to allow one of ours to take that slap in that face. We're going to speak out, and in my opinion, that's what I did."
@BrentZwerneman: A&M's John Sharp told me regarding Manziel: "I know he's innocent. There are no credible sources anywhere that say otherwise."
@BrentZwerneman: A&M's John Sharp told me regarding Manziel: "I know he's innocent. There are no credible sources anywhere that say otherwise."
You & "A&M's Sharp" really think he signed those for free because he just loves giving to the world so much? Please... He shouldn't have put any credibility he has at the mercy of Johnny Fake ID.
Blake
08-23-2013, 07:56 AM
Golly. if John Sharp says he's innocent.....
leemajors
08-23-2013, 09:50 AM
In all, Sharp is tearing down the messengers without addressing the substance of the message. One year in the SEC, and A&M's chancellor is acting like a TigerDroppings poster.
http://deadspin.com/a-m-chancellor-blasts-darren-rovell-declares-johnny-ma-1187787763
DesignatedT
08-23-2013, 11:17 AM
You & "A&M's Sharp" really think he signed those for free because he just loves giving to the world so much? Please... He shouldn't have put any credibility he has at the mercy of Johnny Fake ID.
Wheres the evidence that all these "mass signings" even took place?
ALL we have seen is 1 picture of Manziel signing a stack of 20 SMU game photos in a College Station Hilton.
No photos, videos, money trail nothing.
You & "A&M's Sharp" really think he signed those for free because he just loves giving to the world so much? Please... He shouldn't have put any credibility he has at the mercy of Johnny Fake ID.
When did I ever say he signed for free?
Golly. if John Sharp says he's innocent.....
Pretty strong words from the chancellor of the entire university system. He would look absolutely foolish if he turned out to be incorrect. Johnny will play.
http://deadspin.com/a-m-chancellor-blasts-darren-rovell-declares-johnny-ma-1187787763
He has said that he has seen information that has not been released yet but will be soon for the world to see.
leemajors
08-23-2013, 11:25 AM
When did I ever say he signed for free?
Pretty strong words from the chancellor of the entire university system. He would look absolutely foolish if he turned out to be incorrect. Johnny will play.
He has said that he has seen information that has not been released yet but will be soon for the world to see.
Don't you believe that he did take money?
Don't you believe that he did take money?
Sure as hell seems that he took money to me. But I have seen some pictures of autographs that look just terrible and could be faked. Doesn't mean he didn't get paid for another batch, though.
At the end of the day I believe with certainty that nothing will come of this. There's a rumor that the NCAA will be dropping their case today.
leemajors
08-23-2013, 11:38 AM
Sure as hell seems that he took money to me. But I have seen some pictures of autographs that look just terrible and could be faked. Doesn't mean he didn't get paid for another batch, though.
At the end of the day I believe with certainty that nothing will come of this. There's a rumor that the NCAA will be dropping their case today.
yeah pretty sure he did too, proving it beyond a doubt is another matter tho. the chancellor just sounds silly imo, dunno why he didn't just stick to bland denials.
yeah pretty sure he did too, proving it beyond a doubt is another matter tho. the chancellor just sounds silly imo, dunno why he didn't just stick to bland denials.
If the rumor is true and the NCAA is announcing they are dropping their case it wont matter. I assume he already knew that.
DesignatedT
08-23-2013, 11:46 AM
"pretty sure he did it" = not good enough.
Where's the proof? ESPN reported it so it must be true?
DesignatedT
08-23-2013, 11:50 AM
If people are lying and making false accusations then they deserve to be outed. If this were the case than A&M is going to get to the bottom of it and question motives. Lets see if it gets the proper air time on ESPN once this whole thing turns out to be a sham and investigations are dropped.
Michael Jordan.
08-23-2013, 11:52 AM
CROFL if you don't believe he took money.
DesignatedT
08-23-2013, 11:55 AM
CROFL if you don't believe he took money.
waiting for the proof........ make me a believer.
Michael Jordan.
08-23-2013, 11:59 AM
waiting for the proof........ make me a believer.
:lmao I don't have to prove anything. The NCAA does, I don't. I, on the other hand, use common sense that no one signs hundreds of autographs for free and is caught on tape saying he never did a signing with him, and no one should know about it. His handler taking pictures with bags of money, Manziel in the club flashing bills with his handler. It's common, most college football players take money or cars from boosters.
DesignatedT
08-23-2013, 12:06 PM
So according to you Bridgewater, Clowney, Braxton Miller, A.J. McCarron all signed for money. (All have hundreds of autographs for sale online, many that resemble those of Manziels)
Tape? what tape? Where's the tape? You've seen the tape?
Pictures at clubs flashing money... did you really bring that up :lmao
Michael Jordan.
08-23-2013, 12:14 PM
Denial is a helluva drug. I guess you can close your eyes and pretend these things don't go on.
DesignatedT
08-23-2013, 12:15 PM
Thought so. No proof. Just buy into whatever ESPN is reporting and believe it. Everyone is guilty of it, including myself. Goes for any media outlet.
Denial is a helluva drug. I guess you can close your eyes and pretend these things don't go on.
You didn't answer his question
Michael Jordan.
08-23-2013, 12:18 PM
You didn't answer his question
Don't have to. Dumbass legitimately thinks college kids go around signing thousands of autographs for free.
Blake
08-23-2013, 12:19 PM
Pretty strong words from the chancellor of the entire university system. He would look absolutely foolish if he turned out to be incorrect. Johnny will play.
He has said that he has seen information that has not been released yet but will be soon for the world to see.
What's the holdup
Don't have to. Dumbass legitimately thinks college kids go around signing thousands of autographs for free.
So the guys he mentioned got paid as well?
Michael Jordan.
08-23-2013, 12:26 PM
So the guys he mentioned got paid as well?
Hell yeah.
What's the holdup
Probably waiting for the NCAA to come out publicly first.
Clipper Nation
08-23-2013, 12:38 PM
:lmao I don't have to prove anything. The NCAA does, I don't.
The NCAA doesn't even need hard proof, that's what Aggie doesn't get.... it's not a court of law here, if they have reason to believe he did it, they'll suspend him (unless they once again puss out on an SEC team cheating, which I guess is a possibility)....
The NCAA doesn't even need hard proof, that's what Aggie doesn't get.... it's not a court of law here, if they have reason to believe he did it, they'll suspend him (unless they once again puss out on an SEC team cheating, which I guess is a possibility)....
With the level of scrutiny the NCAA is getting currently they would be crazy to suspend CFB's biggest player on suspicion alone. That's what you don't get.
leemajors
08-23-2013, 12:45 PM
"pretty sure he did it" = not good enough.
Where's the proof? ESPN reported it so it must be true?
I think you were so eager to be butthurt you didn't read the rest of my sentence :lol
Clipper Nation
08-23-2013, 12:51 PM
With the level of scrutiny the NCAA is getting currently they would be crazy to suspend CFB's biggest player on suspicion alone. That's what you don't get.
There would be outrage if yet another prominent SEC player gets to skate by on a technicality while other programs are getting the hammer brought down on them, tbh....
There would be outrage if yet another prominent SEC player gets to skate by on a technicality while other programs are getting the hammer brought down on them, tbh....
Which programs have had the hammer brought down on them?
osu and miami got hit fairly hard (bowl eligibility at least). oregon got a slap on the wrist. penn state got what it deserved.
DesignatedT
08-23-2013, 01:04 PM
:cry the SEC gets away with everything :cry
osu and miami got hit fairly hard (bowl eligibility at least). oregon got a slap on the wrist. penn state got what it deserved.
Miami had enough evidence against it for the damn death penalty. They got off VERY light.
Clipper Nation
08-23-2013, 01:07 PM
:cry the SEC gets away with everything :cry
:cry Those autographs are a T-Sip/Bama/NCAA conspiracy! :cry
:cry WHOOP! :cry
Blake
08-23-2013, 01:15 PM
Thought so. No proof. Just buy into whatever ESPN is reporting and believe it. Everyone is guilty of it, including myself. Goes for any media outlet.
It has been confirmed though that he participated in autograph sessions, correct?
:cry Those autographs are a T-Sip/Bama/NCAA conspiracy! :cry
:cry WHOOP! :cry
:cry Why wont anyone let us be in an AQ conference :cry
DesignatedT
08-23-2013, 02:38 PM
Breaking Bad edition:
http://cdn2.sbnation.com/imported_assets/1766029/hbmi.gif
symple19
08-23-2013, 04:03 PM
:lmao ^
:lol ESPN
:lol NCAA
yavozerb
08-23-2013, 05:53 PM
I might be wrong but I do not think ESPN ever reported he was paid for the autographs. They reported that some brokers stated they paid him and reported the facts on the amount of signed items there were. Pretty funny how its ESPN's fault that Johnny got investigated when he is the one signing all the autographs, guess thats society these days, always somebody elses fault. Look, I am 100% sure that johnny got paid, but so are other players in the NCAA. He did a great job of covering his tracks and well probably be long gone by the time he is caught. Time to move on.
Pelicans78
08-23-2013, 08:22 PM
A&M fans are being way too defensive in this thread for no reason. Of course other teams fans are gonna run with all the news, but no reason to take the bait.
Wheres the evidence that all these "mass signings" even took place?
ALL we have seen is 1 picture of Manziel signing a stack of 20 SMU game photos in a College Station Hilton.
No photos, videos, money trail nothing.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/JOHNNY-MANZIEL-PSA-DNA-AUTOGRAPH-8x10-PHOTO-SIGNED-AUTO-TEXAS-A-M-AGGIE-HEISMAN5-/221269983873?pt=US_Autographs&hash=item3384b80281
He signed tons of PSA authenticated shit in their presence. It's all over ebay. He didn't do it for free. Get your head out of the sand.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/JOHNNY-MANZIEL-PSA-DNA-AUTOGRAPH-8x10-PHOTO-SIGNED-AUTO-TEXAS-A-M-AGGIE-HEISMAN5-/221269983873?pt=US_Autographs&hash=item3384b80281
He signed tons of PSA authenticated shit in their presence. It's all over ebay. He didn't do it for free. Get your head out of the sand.
So USCe and Louisville are lying too?
benefactor
08-24-2013, 02:59 PM
A&M fans are being way too defensive in this thread for no reason.
Wet water/blue sky forum.
Wet water/blue sky forum.
Has the Manziel thread on shaggy reached 200 pages yet? Agsession going strong over there from what I hear.
benefactor
08-24-2013, 03:35 PM
Don't post there tbh.
ColinB
08-24-2013, 03:35 PM
What other threads do you check on shaggy? :lol
benefactor
08-24-2013, 03:36 PM
What other threads do you check on shaggy? :lol
:lol
What other threads do you check on shaggy? :lol
I don't go on that site. South Carolina fan on the SEC Rant said there was a Manziel thread that was at 180 pages.
pgardn
08-26-2013, 06:07 AM
Has the Manziel thread on shaggy reached 200 pages yet? Agsession going strong over there from what I hear.
The only freshman EVER to win the Heisman Trophy basically flirting with not playing next year, tweeting he can't wait to get out of his current situation, getting in drunk fights, continue endlessly with wanton asshole behavior...
And this is no story for the most passionately followed sport in the US? AGgIe get out of the barn! You are no longer under the weight of the big Burnt Orange sun.
Aggie has left the outhouse without pants, wake the hell up.
Michael Jordan.
08-26-2013, 08:20 AM
Aggy still cares about daddeh :lol
The only freshman EVER to win the Heisman Trophy basically flirting with not playing next year, tweeting he can't wait to get out of his current situation, getting in drunk fights, continue endlessly with wanton asshole behavior...
And this is no story for the most passionately followed sport in the US? AGgIe get out of the barn! You are no longer under the weight of the big Burnt Orange sun.
Aggie has left the outhouse without pants, wake the hell up.
When was his last drunk fight?
pgardn
08-26-2013, 11:15 AM
When was his last drunk fight?
His LAST drunk fight? You mean his LAST one chronologically?
You have them dated and numbered? Do you have his FIRST?
When was the FIRST time he sat down and signed thousands of autographs for some low life memorabilia dealer he does not even know for FREE?
Aggie still stuck in the shed...
I will help you since this is a new phenomena for the inexperienced.
We have this great FOOTBALL player who appears to do quite a few things that embarrass a good academic institution with a proud football following. He is a hell of a lot of fun to watch and he played a major role in producing one of our most exciting seasons ever. We will continue to watch and support our TEAM as always despite our best player's off the field transgressions which we wished never happened. He plays football, he is not OUR model of a student athlete. We all wish he was a straight A student, who might not choose pro football as his profession after he earns his degree in chemical engineering while playing football for 4 solid years.
As a UT football fan I personally wish the above were true. ( Aggie does not include this in the aforementioned statement)
Instead of gig em, just for this year, how bout, "Lawyer up Aggies!" ?
DPG21920
08-26-2013, 11:16 AM
^ Just awful
His LAST drunk fight? You mean his LAST one chronologically?
You have them dated and numbered? Do you have his FIRST?
When was the FIRST time he sat down and signed thousands of autographs for some low life memorabilia dealer he does not even know for FREE?
Aggie still stuck in the shed...
I will help you since this is a new phenomena for the inexperienced.
We have this great FOOTBALL player who appears to do quite a few things that embarrass a good academic institution with a proud football following. He is a hell of a lot of fun to watch and he played a major role in producing one of our most exciting seasons ever. We will continue to watch and support our TEAM as always despite our best player's off the field transgressions which we wished never happened. He plays football, he is not OUR model of a student athlete. We all wish he was a straight A student, who might not choose pro football as his profession after he earns his degree in chemical engineering while playing football for 4 solid years.
As a UT football fan I personally wish the above were true. ( Aggie does not include this in the aforementioned statement)
Instead of gig em, just for this year, how bout, "Lawyer up Aggies!" ?
Over 200 words but you didn't answer my question. Are you Vito?
DesignatedT
08-26-2013, 12:38 PM
His LAST drunk fight? You mean his LAST one chronologically?
You have them dated and numbered? Do you have his FIRST?
When was the FIRST time he sat down and signed thousands of autographs for some low life memorabilia dealer he does not even know for FREE?
Aggie still stuck in the shed...
I will help you since this is a new phenomena for the inexperienced.
We have this great FOOTBALL player who appears to do quite a few things that embarrass a good academic institution with a proud football following. He is a hell of a lot of fun to watch and he played a major role in producing one of our most exciting seasons ever. We will continue to watch and support our TEAM as always despite our best player's off the field transgressions which we wished never happened. He plays football, he is not OUR model of a student athlete. We all wish he was a straight A student, who might not choose pro football as his profession after he earns his degree in chemical engineering while playing football for 4 solid years.
As a UT football fan I personally wish the above were true. ( Aggie does not include this in the aforementioned statement)
Instead of gig em, just for this year, how bout, "Lawyer up Aggies!" ?
:lmao
pgardn
08-26-2013, 03:13 PM
Sorry.
I did not know it would hurt.
Unlike Braun, Aggie will never claimed he lied. Just never tell the truth by shutting up, never claim innocence strategy.
Lawyer up...
pgardn
08-26-2013, 03:21 PM
^ Just awful
Coming from said poster I am relieved.
DPG21920
08-26-2013, 03:35 PM
Coming from said poster I am relieved.
That quite literally makes no sense.
pgardn
08-26-2013, 04:16 PM
That quite literally makes no sense.
Getting an awful vote from you is a compliment.
Thank you.
DPG21920
08-26-2013, 04:20 PM
Getting an awful vote from you is a compliment.
Thank you.
Huh?
Getting an awful vote from you is a compliment.
Thank you.
Go away.
pgardn
08-26-2013, 06:40 PM
:wakeup
Go away.
starboy
08-26-2013, 07:02 PM
People are still talking about this?
season can't start soon enough
DesignatedT
08-26-2013, 11:28 PM
Travis Haney @TravHaneyESPN 11m
BREAKING: NCAA officials met Sunday with Texas A&M QB Johnny Manziel, a source familiar with the investigation told me Monday.
Collapse
Michael Jordan.
08-27-2013, 07:43 AM
6 hours?
Clipper Nation
08-27-2013, 08:06 AM
But I thought there wasn't an investigation because that El Paso reporter said so?
:lol Aggie
6 hours?
Lawyers were present for both sides. 6 hours is not long.
ChumpDumper
08-27-2013, 09:47 AM
Jesus. Aggie even denies that six hours is a long time.
if it was in the context of a legal deposition i'd say that is about an average amount of time as most take around a full day although some can go several days
ace3g
08-27-2013, 01:46 PM
Joe Reinagel @noaveragejoejr
(http://twitter.com/noaveragejoejr)NCAA set to announce decision on Manziel tomorrow #kens5news (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23kens5news)
Kermit
08-27-2013, 02:08 PM
I just about shit myself when Corch Sumlin got nailed with the Aggy Code of Honor question. This world can be a beautiful place sometimes.
Kermit
08-27-2013, 02:11 PM
Has the Manziel thread on shaggy reached 200 pages yet? Agsession going strong over there from what I hear.
Obsession noted.
I just about shit myself when Corch Sumlin got nailed with the Aggy Code of Honor question. This world can be a beautiful place sometimes. then ESPN, who has been one of manziel's biggest critics, proceeded to slam the reporter's question.
by the way, it seemed a pretty incongruous question considering honor codes are generally applied to academic integrity. if sports reporters are really concerned about academic integrity and athletics then they just opened up a pandora's box.
ChumpDumper
08-27-2013, 03:02 PM
An Aggie does not lie, cheat or steal, or tolerate those who do.*
An Aggie does not lie, cheat or steal, or tolerate those who do.*
You really think we give a shit about some ESPN person pulling out our honor code? Or anyone for that matter?
ChumpDumper
08-27-2013, 03:15 PM
You really think we give a shit about some ESPN person pulling out our honor code? Or anyone for that matter?I think you don't give a shit about your honor code either.
I think you don't give a shit about your honor code either.
A. It's essentially a corporate mission statement. Do you know your companies mission statement and do you follow it?
B. Where's the proof that he has done any of these things?
Kermit
08-27-2013, 04:40 PM
A. It's essentially a corporate mission statement. Do you know your companies mission statement and do you follow it?
B. Where's the proof that he has done any of these things?
Now the precious honor code is essentially a mission statement. 2 %'er.
ChumpDumper
08-27-2013, 05:13 PM
A. It's essentially a corporate mission statement. Do you know your companies mission statement and do you follow it?So words mean nothing to Aggie.
That's fine.
B. Where's the proof that he has done any of these things?So defensive. What really is your stake in this?
Certainly isn't honor.
DesignatedT
08-27-2013, 09:19 PM
:lmao
So he violated the Aggie Honor Code. I guess nobody in here has told a lie.
Anyway, back to the subject, wheres the proof?
chump dump and kermit posing as the winklevoss twins
pgardn
08-27-2013, 10:07 PM
Aggie perfect fit for the SEC. Honor... pfffttt...
Except how to fit in that pretend soldier stuff?
The mut hound buried facing the scoreboard takes it back to the redneck realm I guess.
DesignatedT
08-27-2013, 10:21 PM
Aggie perfect fit for the SEC. Honor... pfffttt...
Except how to fit in that pretend soldier stuff?
The mut hound buried facing the scoreboard takes it back to the redneck realm I guess.
:lmao
Get us out of your mind bro. It's not healthy. Move on.
From someone who has an unbiased view and has talked to friends and visited both A&M and UT sites the past year, it's actually pretty obvious that Texas fans are the ones obsessed with A&M. Don't get me wrong, they both are obsessed and made for eachother, no debating it but Texas fans are far more butthurt. At least recently.
Now the precious honor code is essentially a mission statement. 2 %'er.
Lol
So defensive. What really is your stake in this?
Certainly isn't honor.
Can you prove he broke the honor code? Dodging questions as usual.
pgardn
08-27-2013, 10:53 PM
:lmao
Get us out of your mind bro. It's not healthy. Move on.
I shall not. You have one of the best players I have ever seen in college football. We have David Ash.
After JFF leaves you can go back to being irrelevant, except for laughs.
Can you prove he broke the honor code? Dodging questions as usual.
Didn't he lie about his age with the fake ID?
I could care less if he broke the honor code or not as A&M is no BYU when it comes to that, but since you are hung up on semantics he did lie about his age and got busted for that.
Didn't he lie about his age with the fake ID?
I could care less if he broke the honor code or not as A&M is no BYU when it comes to that, but since you are hung up on semantics he did lie about his age and got busted for that.
Fair point. Luckily the honor code doesn't have a section in there about getting kicked off of the football team.
ChumpDumper
08-28-2013, 08:25 AM
Can you prove he broke the honor code? Dodging questions as usual.That doesn't even matter now. Aggie shit on the honor code preemptively.
That's how twisted Johnny Fucking Football has made Aggie. Johnny Fucking Football is the only thing that matters now.
Clipper Nation
08-28-2013, 09:15 AM
Remember that picture of Fagball signing stuff in the hotel room? Well, one of those pictures he was signing has surfaced on eBay:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/JOHNNY-MANZIEL-TEXAS-A-M-AGGIES-SIGNED-8X10-PHOTO-W-JSA-COA-3-/380696804585?pt=US_Autographs&hash=item58a34c3ce9
:lmao Aggie
Michael Jordan.
08-28-2013, 09:19 AM
Remember that picture of Fagball signing stuff in the hotel room? Well, one of those pictures he was signing has surfaced on eBay:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/JOHNNY-MANZIEL-TEXAS-A-M-AGGIES-SIGNED-8X10-PHOTO-W-JSA-COA-3-/380696804585?pt=US_Autographs&hash=item58a34c3ce9
:lmao Aggie
:lol
Bill_Brasky
08-28-2013, 09:21 AM
chump you know if you were on the other side of this argument you'd be asking for proof and sources all day.
That doesn't even matter now. Aggie shit on the honor code preemptively.
That's how twisted Johnny Fucking Football has made Aggie. Johnny Fucking Football is the only thing that matters now.
You're so predictable it's not even enjoyable.
DesignatedT
08-28-2013, 09:54 AM
That doesn't even matter now. Aggie shit on the honor code preemptively.
That's how twisted Johnny Fucking Football has made Aggie. Johnny Fucking Football is the only thing that matters now.
Pretty sure I had broken the Aggie Honor Code way before Johnny Football was around. So there goes that theory.
DesignatedT
08-28-2013, 09:56 AM
Remember that picture of Fagball signing stuff in the hotel room? Well, one of those pictures he was signing has surfaced on eBay:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/JOHNNY-MANZIEL-TEXAS-A-M-AGGIES-SIGNED-8X10-PHOTO-W-JSA-COA-3-/380696804585?pt=US_Autographs&hash=item58a34c3ce9
:lmao Aggie
Nice. You gunna get yourself one?
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