Week 6 Black QB report card: Some improvement, overall unimpressive.

[Chief Brody]

The good:

Cam Newton: sure, they beat a dogshit Matt Cassel-led Vikings team, but Cam had 242 yds and 4 total TD's. He'll go back to struggling going forward until they're 3-7, then shamelessly statpad like last year. Still, A for effort today.

Thad Lewis: From the street to facing the Bengals D in 9 days, he played with a ton of heart and kept the Bills in it. B+

The bad:

Russell Wilson: Some might say he was riding the coat-tails of Marshawn Lynch and a dominant defense to victory. But they didn't witness the clapping in the huddle, the dump-offs and checkdowns, and the purposefully errant throws (to test the skill of his wide receivers). His heroism is truly second to none. A++

Colin Kaepernick: 16/29, 252 yards, 2 tds, 1 int, 1 lost fumble (2 total fumbles). Don't be fooled by the stats, half those yards came off 2 blown coverages on Vernon Davis. Other than that, he made terrible decisions in the redzone and once again looked horribly uncomfortable in the pocket. Starting to look like the black blood cells are more prominent than the white ones. (Alex Smith is 6-0, btw). C-

The ugly:

Terrelle Pryor: 10 sacks, most in the circus-variety. Blame a crippled o-line all you want, but you can't be losing a 1/4 of the field on each sack. Throw in 3 picks for good measure. F

Geno Smith: LOL. F

Michael Vick: Watched the white man rape a top-flight secondary and now has 7 total td's in 2 games. He'll rush back from injury, hurt his team, then get injured again (stop me if you've seen that before). F

Cawnbread Griffin III: Awful. Like Kaepernick and Wilson, he's dogshit when you keep him in the pocket. D

Other:

Josh Freeman: This retread has earned a job by default, so his addition will make up for Vick's subtraction.

[spurraider21]

Pryor had an awful showing, but all QB's in their first starting year put up stinkers here and there, let alone on the road against an elite D, but his first 2 picks were just bad decisions and he took some sacks where he coulda just gotten rid of the ball out of bounds. I was disappointed for sure, but like you referenced, the line was something else. Pass protection aside young QB's NEED a running game, outside of Luck, but Luck is a monster.

At this point the Raiders would be THRILLED to get their 2nd string offensive line back. These third stringers aren't as good as Alabama's o-line right now

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

black blood cells

:lol don't you mean sickle cells

[Chief Brody]

:lol don't you mean sickle cells

interchangeable, tbh

[DMX7]

You and M>S should be friends if you're not one in the same.

[Chief Brody]

Updated

[Chief Brody]

Pure breeds are 11-20 on the year while mutts are 9-6. Pays to have a little Aryan in ya (or ridiculous defenses and rushing attacks).

[jeebus]

:lol black people

[Spur-Addict]

Russ the boss put in another masterful performance tbh...

Connected with 8 different receivers, and willed his team to victory despite the fumbleitis of teammates (3, 1 of which he recovered himself, and saved a touchdown in the process. Quite masterful indeed.) and poor special teams play. 300 all purpose yards. It will be a glorious day when Lord Percy can suit up at full health. All praises to DangeRuss

[Chief Brody]

Russ the boss put in another masterful performance tbh...

Connected with 8 different receivers, and willed his team to victory despite the fumbleitis of teammates (3, 1 of which he recovered himself, and saved a touchdown in the process. Quite masterful indeed.) and poor special teams play. 300 all purpose yards. It will be a glorious day when Lord Percy can suit up at full health. All praises to DangeRuss
Did you get through that with a straight face?

[Spur-Addict]

Did you get through that with a straight face?

:lol Did you watch the whole game?

5-1 tbh...

[Chief Brody]

:lol Did you watch the whole game?

5-1 tbh...
Yeah, he brought the game-managing goods

[Spur-Addict]

Yeah, he brought the game-managing goods

He brought the, spread-the-ball-around, cover-up-our-team-deficiency goods as usual. Like a bossss

[spurraider21]

He brought the, spread-the-ball-around, cover-up-our-team-deficiency goods as usual. Like a bossss
don't mind them. they didn't watch the game. they see Lynch 2 TD's in the yahoo box score and think he did it all, despite the fact that wilson got them down the field to set up both Td's

[Chief Brody]

don't mind them. they didn't watch the game. they see Lynch 2 TD's in the yahoo box score and think he did it all, despite the fact that wilson got them down the field to set up both Td's
I see Lynch being the leading rusher and receiver along with scoring 12 of their 20 points. I also see a Seahawk defense that forced 2 turnovers and held the opposition to just over 200 yards.

Those silly little details.

[spurraider21]

I see Lynch being the leading rusher and receiver along with scoring 12 of their 20 points. I also see a Seahawk defense that forced 2 turnovers and held the opposition to just over 200 yards.

Those silly little details.
its fine. no need to watch the game to see how it went down :tu

[Chief Brody]

its fine. no need to watch the game to see how it went down :tu
So try to next time. I get it though, you have an agenda to protect him. It's cool.

[spurraider21]

:cry what a play by Marshawn Lynch to get all those receiving yards http://www.nfl.com/videos/seattle-seahawks/0ap2000000261793/Lynch-55-yard-catch-and-run

[Chief Brody]

Guy gets over 150 all purpose yards and both scores and you wanna congratulate the dude who fell on a fumble:lol

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Cam's going to stay on the top of that list for a while, tbh. I think we give the Saints a run for their money in the South. Pretty reasonable considering Atlanta injured/underperforming and the Bucs being the Bucs.

[spurraider21]

Guy gets over 150 all purpose yards and both scores and you wanna congratulate the dude who fell on a fumble:lol
the dude who fell on lynch's fumble?

so during a 10-10 tie (due to a botched field goal that titans returned for a TD), Lynch fumbles with goal to go. wilson is able to land on it and they take a FG lead. next possession Wilson throws and runs for 51 yards (Lynch accounts for 16), and Lynch punches it in on 1st and goal. I'm not taking anything away from Marshawn, but Wilson is the one that got the offense into position to take the lead and win the game. oh and the drive where Lynch fumbled with goal to go? set up by that big pass play which i linked above.

[Chief Brody]

Here, I've crunched the #'s for you:

http://chartmaker.mathwarehouse.com/render.php?type=pie&leg=side&d0=75&n0=Marshawn%20Lynch=75&d1=15&n1=Seattle%20Defense=15&d2=5&n2=Steven%20Hauschka=5&d3=3.3&n3=Russell%20Wilson=3.3&d4=1.7&n4=Other=1.7&number=5&threeD=1&colorScheme=-1&chartTitle=Reason%20for%20Seahawks%20Win&transparent

[spurraider21]

Lynch is an awesome back, and the Seahawks rightfully feed him the ball early and often, but that doesn't mean Wilson is just "along for the ride."

[Chief Brody]

Lynch is an awesome back, and the Seahawks rightfully feed him the ball early and often, but that doesn't mean Wilson is just "along for the ride."
He's riding shotgun

[spurraider21]

Here, I've crunched the #'s for you:

http://chartmaker.mathwarehouse.com/render.php?type=pie&leg=side&d0=75&n0=Marshawn%20Lynch=75&d1=15&n1=Seattle%20Defense=15&d2=5&n2=Steven%20Hauschka=5&d3=3.3&n3=Russell%20Wilson=3.3&d4=1.7&n4=Other=1.7&number=5&threeD=1&colorScheme=-1&chartTitle=Reason%20for%20Seahawks%20Win&transparent
thanks bro. insightful as fuck. still, i recommend you watch a seahawks game once in a while

[Chief Brody]

I have Redzone like everyone else here. Don't let the fact you protect Russy like he was your ruby starfruit get in the way of objectivity, though:tu

[spurraider21]

k. redzone shows lynch's 1 yard td but doesn't show how they got there :lol
redzone is basically fantasy football zone

[Chief Brody]

k. redzone shows lynch's 1 yard td but doesn't show how they got there :lol
redzone is basically fantasy football zone
They showed plenty of the Seattle game today, especially since it was one of four afternoon games. Nice try, though:lol

[spurraider21]

yeah because your eyes weren't glued to the pats game. nice try though

[Chief Brody]

yeah because your eyes weren't glued to the pats game. nice try though
Redzone shows what it shows, and since that (Seattle) game was close we all saw plenty of it. A fanboi AND a liar. Nice resume

[spurraider21]

yeah a raider fan is a seahawk fanboi. my point was i doubt you were watching redzone the whole time when the pats game was on

[Chief Brody]

yeah a raider fan is a seahawk fanboi. my point was i doubt you were watching redzone the whole time when the pats game was on
Well I was, so sorry to shit on your strategy this thread. Your takes are like Pryor's pocket awareness.

[spurraider21]

i forgot anybody can make any claim on an online forum. sorta throws a wrench into everything. the fact that you still claim wilson didn't do much at all to help the seahawks win and that it was all lynch tells me you didn't catch much of the game

[TrainOfThought5]

Here, I've crunched the #'s for you:http://chartmaker.mathwarehouse.com/render.php?type=pie&leg=side&d0=75&n0=Marshawn%20Lynch=75&d1=15&n1=Seattle%20Defense=15&d2=5&n2=Steven%20Hauschka=5&d3=3.3&n3=Russell%20Wilson=3.3&d4=1.7&n4=Other=1.7&number=5&threeD=1&colorScheme=-1&chartTitle=Reason%20for%20Seahawks%20Win&transparentTBH the 12th man shouldve got a much larger piece of the pie.

[Chief Brody]

i forgot anybody can make any claim on an online forum. sorta throws a wrench into everything. the fact that you still claim wilson didn't do much at all to help the seahawks win and that it was all lynch tells me you didn't catch much of the game
I gave him 3.3%. Pretty generous, tbh.

OT (somewhat), but if I were to look up Seattle's Defensive and Rushing rankings, what would I find? How about last year?

[Chief Brody]

TBH the 12th man shouldve got a much larger piece of the pie.
True, I counted 2 false starts from All-Pro guard Andy LeVitre alone.

[spurraider21]

I gave him 3.3%. Pretty generous, tbh.

OT (somewhat), but if I were to look up Seattle's Defensive and Rushing rankings, what would I find? How about last year?
pretty damn good tbh. if i looked up wilson's qb rating last year what would i find? :lol i never called Wilson a top 5 qb in the NFL, that's the funny thing. the first time i made a reference to my appreciation of wilson was that i thought he was better than rg3. since then, it has ballooned into me supposedly thinking Wilson is one of the best players in the league. he's a 2nd year player, and a damn good one at that. i'm pretty sure a guy like big ben was really sheltered in his first couple of years too with a great run game and elite D. same with Tom Terrific in his early days. don't you agree?

[Chief Brody]

pretty damn good tbh. if i looked up wilson's qb rating last year what would i find? :lol i never called Wilson a top 5 qb in the NFL, that's the funny thing. the first time i made a reference to my appreciation of wilson was that i thought he was better than rg3. since then, it has ballooned into me supposedly thinking Wilson is one of the best players in the league. he's a 2nd year player, and a damn good one at that. i'm pretty sure a guy like big ben was really sheltered in his first couple of years too with a great run game and elite D. same with Tom Terrific in his early days. don't you agree?
I won't disagree that he's better than RG3. Tom was sheltered his first year, but was a beast from 2002-onward. Ben had a Top-5 running game and defense, but still went 3-0 on the road in the playoffs (playing excellent) before winning a SB (not a good performance for him). Could Wilson do that? Doubtful, since he has a losing road record.

[spurraider21]

I won't disagree that he's better than RG3. Tom was sheltered his first year, but was a beast from 2002-onward. Ben had a Top-5 running game and defense, but still went 3-0 on the road in the playoffs (playing excellent) before winning a SB (not a good performance for him). Could Wilson do that? Doubtful, since he has a losing road record.
Wilson does more for the Seahawks than Brady did for the Pats in their first superbowl run, am i right?

[Chief Brody]

Wilson does more for the Seahawks than Brady did for the Pats in their first superbowl run, am i right?
lolwut?

[spurraider21]

lolwut?
shall i pull up brady's passing numbers during that season and the playoffs?

[Chief Brody]

shall i pull up brady's passing numbers during that season and the playoffs?
Sure, also pull up his supporting cast's rankings. If they're better than #1 scoring defense and #3 rushing attack and include a GW SB drive I'll capitulate.

[Chief Brody]

btw, QB's Russell Wilson has defeated this year:

Matt Schaub
Kraep
Ryan Fitzpatrick
Blaine Gabbert
Cum Newton

Impressive:tu

[spurraider21]

yeah. wilson should have complained to the NFL that his schedule was too easy. that way he could prove skeptics wrong, tbh. texans, niners, titans, panthers all have lightweight defenses huh

[Chief Brody]

He did beat Brady by a point last year, so he definitely has one great H2H victory. Not giving him the Rodgers one b/c I don't give credit for GW interceptions.

[spurraider21]

He did beat Brady by a point last year, so he definitely has one great H2H victory. Not giving him the Rodgers one b/c I don't give credit for GW interceptions.
nah. that was lynch's win IMO. 15 carries for 41 yards. he's definitely not the hero they deserved that day. wilson and his 300 yards, 3 touchdowns + game winner should just be lucky he had beast mode behind him that day.

[Chief Brody]

I just said that one was his W...are you arguing with yourself now?

[spurraider21]

no. that wasn't wilson's win at all. should i pull up the pie chart?

[Trainwreck2100]

nah. that was lynch's win IMO. 15 carries for 41 yards. he's definitely not the hero they deserved that day. wilson and his 300 yards, 3 touchdowns + game winner should just be lucky he had beast mode behind him that day.

he didn't throw a game winner, he threw a pass so shitty it forced the nfl to capitulate to the referee union

[Chief Brody]

When he shows he's more than a house nigga feeding off the crowd I'll give him his props and lump him in with his white contemporaries. Fair enough?

[Chief Brody]

no. that wasn't wilson's win at all. should i pull up the pie chart?


I just said that one was his W...are you arguing with yourself now?
I guess you answered my question.

[spurraider21]

he didn't throw a game winner, he threw a pass so shitty it forced the nfl to capitulate to the referee union
:lmao you are way off. talking about the patriots game, stud

[spurraider21]

I guess you answered my question.
http://i.imgur.com/fB19z.gif

[Chief Brody]

When he shows he's more than a house nigga feeding off the crowd (and tremendous supporting cast) I'll give him his props and lump him in with his white contemporaries. Fair enough?

[Chief Brody]

Now he's trying to explain his shitty sarcasm. This is getting ugly.

[spurraider21]

the sarcasm was fairly blatant tbh

[Chief Brody]

I'll give you some advice brotha...a life lesson, if you will. Don't hitch your wagon to a black QB. If you think it's bad trying to defend him now when his team is doing well, just wait till he shits the bed later and adds his name to the list of 0-fer monkeyballers. We've seen this script before (hell we're watching 2 others--Kraep and RG3 do it right now)...some guy has a shining rookie year, maybe another, defenses eventually figure him out, and he becomes a frustrating statwhore the rest of his career (a la Vick, McNabb, the LIST GOES ON)

[Chief Brody]

the sarcasm was fairly blatant tbh
Thus its shittiness and questionable use. I conceded that point (RW's lone impressive H2H victory) even before you went on your pissypants routine.

[spurraider21]

thats fine. my thinking of Wilson being better than RG3 (which was the context in which i called Wilson under the radar, since people would put Luck/RG3 in one tier, then talk about Wilson afterwards as in "oh yea, he was good too"), and that Wilson is a good qb in this league isn't what i would call "hitching my wagon" to him.

but if some members on this forum have the compulsive need to find anybody else to give credit to on the team, than so be it. i have a feeling a lot of it is due to the fact that avante has hitched his wagon to wilson (saying he is better than luck) and everybody hates avante

[Chief Brody]

Your efforts to defend his mediocrity every week speak for themselves, but agree to disagree.

[Robz4000]

Kaeperdick had a couple nice passes that impressed me, but his decision making was pretty damn awful, as you said.

All in all:

:monkey

[spurraider21]

:monkey

:lmao this is the best

[AchillesHeel]

Chief going in on them semen pigeons :toast

[mojorizen7]

Here, I've crunched the #'s for you:

http://chartmaker.mathwarehouse.com/render.php?type=pie&leg=side&d0=75&n0=Marshawn%20Lynch=75&d1=15&n1=Seattle%20Defense=15&d2=5&n2=Steven%20Hauschka=5&d3=3.3&n3=Russell%20Wilson=3.3&d4=1.7&n4=Other=1.7&number=5&threeD=1&colorScheme=-1&chartTitle=Reason%20for%20Seahawks%20Win&transparent
:lol pie chart

[Spur-Addict]

When he shows he's more than a house nigga feeding off the crowd I'll give him his props and lump him in with his white contemporaries. Fair enough?

2012: Week 13 tbh...

All the right ingredients
_________________

Trolls gonna troll LOL

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Here, I've crunched the #'s for you:

http://chartmaker.mathwarehouse.com/render.php?type=pie&leg=side&d0=75&n0=Marshawn%20Lynch=75&d1=15&n1=Seattle%20Defense=15&d2=5&n2=Steven%20Hauschka=5&d3=3.3&n3=Russell%20Wilson=3.3&d4=1.7&n4=Other=1.7&number=5&threeD=1&colorScheme=-1&chartTitle=Reason%20for%20Seahawks%20Win&transparent

Chief Brody, crunching the numbers and educating Russell Wilson nut huggers per par

[Bill_Brasky]

Ru$$y 2 cLuTcH

[Clipper Nation]

Meh.... Wilson isn't elite yet, but people on here make him sound like Alice Smith :lol

I do think Wilson can make the leap to elite status in the years to come though, I think he's smart and skilled enough to adjust as the salary cap takes its toll on their stacked supporting cast....

[Darth_Pelican]

Here, I've crunched the #'s for you:

http://chartmaker.mathwarehouse.com/render.php?type=pie&leg=side&d0=75&n0=Marshawn%20Lynch=75&d1=15&n1=Seattle%20Defense=15&d2=5&n2=Steven%20Hauschka=5&d3=3.3&n3=Russell%20Wilson=3.3&d4=1.7&n4=Other=1.7&number=5&threeD=1&colorScheme=-1&chartTitle=Reason%20for%20Seahawks%20Win&transparent

:lmao

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Meh.... Wilson isn't elite yet, but people on here make him sound like Alice Smith :lol

That's only in response to the media last year making him out to be Drew Brees.

[Spur-Addict]

2012: Week 13 tbh...

All the right ingredients
_________________

Trolls gonna troll LOL

LiMBUXRS7bw

[Chief Brody]

Congrats on beating a non-playoff team on the road. Still under-.500 road record, will get murdered in the Meadowlands by Peyton if they even make the SB.

[spurraider21]

LiMBUXRS7bw
that was all Lynch and Richard Sherman obviously

[spurraider21]

Meh.... Wilson isn't elite yet, but people on here make him sound like Alice Smith :lol

I do think Wilson can make the leap to elite status in the years to come though, I think he's smart and skilled enough to adjust as the salary cap takes its toll on their stacked supporting cast....
:wow

[Spur-Addict]

That's only in response to the media last year making him out to be Drew Brees.

What kind of numbers did Brees put up in his first full season with LT?

Brees: 526 Attempts, 320 completions. 3,284 yards, 17 TD's, 16 INT's. 60.8% Completion percentage. (130 yards rushing and 1 TD)

LT: 1,683 Yards, 14 TD's. 79 Receptions, 489 yards, 1 TD.

Wilson: 393 Attempts, 252 Completions. 3,118 yards, 26 TD's, 10 INT's. 64.1% completion percentage. (489 yards rushing and 4 TD's)

Lynch: 1,590 yards, 11 TD's. 23 Receptions, 196 yards, 1 TD.

Now, the only reason they're really being compared is because Brees serves as a reference point for Wilson for those who think he's too small to play the game. And, Wilson picks up some things from Brees to implement into his game to SOME extent. Given the type of running game Brees had, those are very comparable numbers.

[Spur-Addict]

Don't move dem goal posts now :lol

[Clipper Nation]

To be fair, our best recievers that year were Tim Dwight and Curtis Conway.... I'd take Tate, Rice, and Harvin (when healthy) over them all day, tbh....

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

What kind of numbers did Brees put up in his first full season with LT?

Brees: 526 Attempts, 320 completions. 3,284 yards, 17 TD's, 16 INT's. 60.8% Completion percentage. (130 yards rushing and 1 TD)

LT: 1,683 Yards, 14 TD's. 79 Receptions, 489 yards, 1 TD.

Wilson: 393 Attempts, 252 Completions. 3,118 yards, 26 TD's, 10 INT's. 64.1% completion percentage. (489 yards rushing and 4 TD's)

Lynch: 1,590 yards, 11 TD's. 23 Receptions, 196 yards, 1 TD.

Now, the only reason they're really being compared is because Brees serves as a reference point for Wilson for those who think he's too small to play the game. And, Wilson picks up some things from Brees to implement into his game to SOME extent. Given the type of running game Brees had, those are very comparable numbers.

:lmao thinking rookie stats makes the comparison valid. It's a retarded comparison made by the media to promote black QBs.

It's already been proven on this site Russell Wilson tucks it and runs over 10x as frequently as Brees does. One's a pocket passer, the other's a monkey baller :lol

[Spur-Addict]

To be fair, our best recievers that year were Tim Dwight and Curtis Conway.... I'd take Tate, Rice, and Harvin (when healthy) over them all day, tbh....

Harvin wasn't on our roster in 2012.
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Also, LT accounted for 79 receptions, that's a lot. A lot of receivers never get 70 receptions in a season for their entire career :lol. He has to be accounted for. He vultured yards and receptions. LT was all purpose and could play every down as you already know very well. And was certainly utilized more extensively in the passing game comparatively to Lynch. So in reality he was an integral part of your passing game that season, and should be added to that receiving core. And certainly, he makes up for what was lacked to some extent. Numbers wise, the Tate/Rice combo compared decently to the Dwight/Conway combo. (Aside from the TDs)

Dwight/Conway: 1,475 yards combined. 5 TDs

Tate/Rice: 1,436 yards combined. 14 TDs

I think Tate is better than white lighting, :lol, but comparable in ability to some extent. Conway was good when healthy. He had two, 1,000 yards seasons before San Diego. But, comparing just those WRs, and not including LT, I'd agree with you. Tossing LT in adds another dimension tbh...

[Spur-Addict]

:lmao thinking rookie stats makes the comparison valid. It's a retarded comparison made by the media to promote black QBs.

It's already been proven on this site Russell Wilson tucks it and runs over 10x as frequently as Brees does. One's a pocket passer, the other's a monkey baller :lol

The only reason I put those stats in were due to the running game Brees had, that is the point. People make a big deal about Wilson and the running game. So, it was two birds with one stone LOL Clearly, Brees has a track record that Wilson doesn't have available. And Wilson, is being punished because he doesn't, and he's multi dimensional, and that's fine :lol

I'm actually pleased Wilson can take off if needed. It gives him an added dimension that is needed with us not having a Jimmy Graham, Brandon Marshall, Megatron, A.J Green etc. New Orleans is built around Brees, where it is not the case for Wilson yet he still performs. One is a pocket passer only, and one is multi dimensional. And I don't care that the guy has ran 10xs more than Brees, it just says he's multi dimensional and doesn't have the weapons.

People act as if Wilson doesn't go about his progressions when has the time LOL

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

It also says he's a monkey with limited pocket passing ability.

:lol dismissing Sidney Rice. He was an elite WR when he had Brett Favre throwing him the ball.

[Spur-Addict]

It also says he's a monkey with limited pocket passing ability.

Name one wide out on Seattle that Wilson can throw the ball at no matter the coverage.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Name one wide out on Seattle that Wilson can throw the ball at no matter the coverage.

Sidney Rice, proof being the monster season he had as Brett Favre's go to receiver.

[Chief Brody]

Sidney Rice, proof being the monster season he had as Brett Favre's go to receiver.
Sidney Rice would have 10 tds and at least 1000 yds if Luck were throwing to him. TRUTH.

[Spur-Addict]

Sidney Rice, proof being the monster season he had as Brett Favre's go to receiver.

You're actually serious about this. And, ignoring that Harvin was in that offense creating space LOL You guys are hilarious.

[Spur-Addict]

Sidney Rice would have 10 tds and at least 1000 yds if Luck were throwing to him. TRUTH.

How many times did Luck thrown the ball last season? LOL

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

You're actually serious about this. And, ignoring that Harvin was in that offense creating space LOL You guys are hilarious.

:lol Sidney Rice drawing Fitzgerald comparisons because of the circus catches he made in 2009 has nothing to do with Harvin.

:lol Wilson being unable to use an elite receiver

[Chief Brody]

How many times did Luck thrown the ball last season? LOL
Well, he didn't have the luxury of having the 3rd leading rusher or the best scoring defense (by almost 2 ppg) at his disposal, so what's your point?

[Spur-Addict]

:lol Sidney Rice drawing Fitzgerald comparisons because of the circus catches he made in 2009 has nothing to do with Harvin.

:lol Wilson being unable to use an elite receiver

Larry Fitzgerald? :lmao

You guys have to be trolling me.

[Spur-Addict]

Well, he didn't have the luxury of having the 3rd leading rusher or the best scoring defense (by almost 2 ppg) at his disposal, so what's your point?

It goes both ways. Russell didn't have the attempts because of the ground game, and Luck didn't have the ground game, thus more attempts. Of course the WR's numbers would be inflated due to more attempts. For you state for any other reason is intellectually dishonest, tbh

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Larry Fitzgerald? :lmao

You guys have to be trolling me.
Rice was getting Fitzgerald comparisons in 2009 when he had a true pocket passer at QB, I'm not making that up.

[Chief Brody]

Sometimes you just don't know what you got till it's gone. It's a shame Seahawk fan is so trendy and they forget who gave them their most iconic win in franchise history--and who continues to do all the dirty work for their offense.

Shameful.

[Chief Brody]

It goes both ways. Russell didn't have the attempts because of the ground game, and Luck didn't have the ground game, thus more attempts. Of course the WR's numbers would be inflated due to more attempts. For you state for any other reason is intellectually dishonest, tbh
This holds the assumption that Wilson could've taken that Indy Yugo to the playoffs. We all know Luck would've driven that Bentley in Seattle farther.

[Spur-Addict]

Rice was getting Fitzgerald comparisons in 2009 when he had a true pocket passer at QB, I'm not making that up.

Hey, if you truly believe that, there's nothing I can say otherwise. But it's amazing how you guys try to put this kid in the frying pan, and try to take away his credibility.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Hey, if you truly believe that, there's nothing I can say otherwise. But it's amazing how you guys try to put this kid in the frying pan, and try to take away his credibility.

It's not a matter of belief, it's fact that Sidney Rice was drawing comparisons to Fitz during the 2009 season.

It's amazing how Wilson fans put a 1,300 yard receiver in a frying pan and try to take away his credibility.

[Chief Brody]

Hey, if you truly believe that, there's nothing I can say otherwise. But it's amazing how you guys try to put this kid in the frying pan, and try to take away his credibility.
We wouldn't do that if you weren't so steadfast in turning a game manager into Joe Montana

[Spur-Addict]

This holds the assumption that Wilson could've taken that Indy Yugo to the playoffs. We all know Luck would've driven that Bentley in Seattle farther.

Assumptions all around. Life is a little different without Reggie Wayne. And obviously Wilson is at a disadvantage because he has Lynch, but he has shown true pocket ability when there was no other choice but to throw the ball and lead his team. And that, is what matters.

[Chief Brody]

He's at a disadvantage because he has an elite defense and a 1600 yd rusher? Man, life is tough for the black QB.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

He's at a disadvantage because he has an elite defense and a 1600 yd rusher? Man, life is tough for the black QB.

And a 1,300 yard receiver

[Spur-Addict]

We wouldn't do that if you weren't so steadfast in turning a game manager into Joe Montana

I never said he was Joe Montana, never once. I never said he was Drew Brees, or Elway, or any prolific passer that has come and gone, or is sill here. All I ever said is the guy deserves more respect than what he is getting. And, comparatively to a prolific passer that had a great running back in his first year at QB, he put up comparable numbers, and that is a point that should be respected.

[Chief Brody]

I never said he was Joe Montana, never once. I never said he was Drew Brees, or Elway, or any prolific passer that has come and gone, or is sill here. All I ever said is the guy deserves more respect than what he is getting. And, comparatively to a prolific passer that had a great running back in his first year at QB, he put up comparable numbers, and that is a point that should be respected.
Of course, he's been a great game manager in his young career. Can't take that away from him.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

I never said he was Joe Montana, never once. I never said he was Drew Brees, or Elway, or any prolific passer that has come and gone, or is sill here. All I ever said is the guy deserves more respect than what he is getting. And, comparatively to a prolific passer that had a great running back in his first year at QB, he put up comparable numbers, and that is a point that should be respected.

That "prolific passer" didn't get a fraction of the hype and praise Wilson got after the comparable numbers he put up his first year at QB.

[Spur-Addict]

And a 1,300 yard receiver

I could care less what color the guys skin is. I care about his performance. Wilson gets punished because the scheme he is in prevents him from attempting the amount of passes other QBs (That are called prolific) attempt, nor does he have a true X wideout to boot.

Does he have a great running game, and a great defense? Fuck yeah he does :lol

But don't put Rice in a top end receiver category, and certainly don't discount the guys ability to win games when there's nothing to do but pass the rock around the field, or make plays. And look at that Chicago film, he used Rice plenty. But think about the attempts Wilson gets comparatively.

[Spur-Addict]

That "prolific passer" didn't get a fraction of the hype and praise Wilson got after the comparable numbers he put up his first year at QB.

Brees didn't, that's for sure. Probably in large part because of his size (Which is where Wilson comes in) Rivers :lol

But they sure did suck Brady's dick. Sucked on that Elway dick before he ever entered the league, the same with Luck, Jim Kelly, and I'm sure I'm missing someone else.

It's more about the QB having prototypical physical attributes than anything else, well, today at least (Warren got det shaft tbh)

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Brees didn't, that's for sure. Probably in large part because of his size (Which is where Wilson comes in) Rivers :lol

But they sure did suck Brady's dick. Sucked on that Elway dick before he ever entered the league, the same with Luck, Jim Kelly, and I'm sure I'm missing someone else.

It's more about the QB having prototypical physical attributes than anything else, well, today at least (Warren got det shaft tbh)
:lmao they sucked Brady's dick after he won a superbowl what a retarded comparison

:lol listing a bunch of QBs who did everything/are doing everything to vindicate the hype they got

[Holden_Caulfield]

people are actually still overrating wilson :lol

[Spur-Addict]

:lmao they sucked Brady's dick after he won a superbowl what a retarded comparison

:lol listing a bunch of QBs who did everything/are doing everything to vindicate the hype they got

Yeah, they all had the keys handed to them as well (Just like Luck). Elway didn't pass for 3,000 until year 3. 15 games in year 2, wasn't on pace either.

And a lot of people were saying, "Get rid of Bledsoe", and "Brady is leading us to victory, we don't need Bledsoe, we can get so much for Bledsoe, it's a win/win". Of course the intense Brady dick sucking came after he won the bowl, but he was getting similar BJs before becoming the man.

[Spur-Addict]

Of course, he's been a great game manager in his young career. Can't take that away from him.

Managed numerous comeback victories too tbh.

Look, is the guy Aaron Rodgers, Drew Brees, Brady? No. He's in year two. But to say he doesn't have that upside is intellectually dishonest based on is current body of work (especially when comparing his numbers to a current top end QB who had a great RB).

[Chief Brody]

Look, is the guy Aaron Rodgers, Drew Brees, Brady? No. He's in year two. But to say he doesn't have that upside...
...is 100% correct.

[Spur-Addict]

It's not a matter of belief, it's fact that Sidney Rice was drawing comparisons to Fitz during the 2009 season.

It's amazing how Wilson fans put a 1,300 yard receiver in a frying pan and try to take away his credibility.

Oh I'm sorry, I missed this. Sure he had a 1,300 yard year. But to say he's in the upper echelon of wide outs, as in Graham, Green, Megatron, Fitz etc is something totally different. To discount a MVP candidate in that offense opening things up for Rice is something that is being taken lightly. I never said Rice isn't a good WR, he's just not great. I'm saying he's a 2, not a 1 (as far as ability is concerned). And, I'm sure you'll see better coverage for Rice once Percy returns, and his numbers will probably go up LOL

[Spur-Addict]

Favre was also not in his second year in the league when he was on Minnesota. He attempted somewhere around 530 passes that year. Just because someone runs, doesn't mean they're not a pocket passer. They can be a pocket passer, with the ability to run. He isn't one of these guys who doesn't go through their progressions. He has a thorough understanding of everything.

He isn't this:

jQPAxiv1SKU

[Chief Brody]

Favre was also not in his second year in the league when he was on Minnesota. He attempted somewhere around 530 passes that year.
While having the best RB and a stout defense, so what's Wilson's excuse?

Answer: He doesn't need one. Apples and Oranges. One's a gunslinger and one's a game manager.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Wilson isn't overrated. Seem him since his debut game @ State. Guy has serious skill

[Spur-Addict]

While having the best RB and a stout defense, so what's Wilson's excuse?

Answer: He doesn't need one. Apples and Oranges. One's a gunslinger and one's a game manager.

Translation: One is a second year QB, one was in the late stages of his career. Go look up Favre's early years.

[spurraider21]

How was Sydney rice's follow up season with favre the following year?

that was also one of Favre's top 2 or 3 seasons of his career. Apologies if Wilson in year 2 isn't as good as favre at his best

[Chief Brody]

How was Sydney rice's follow up season with favre the following year?

that was also one of Favre's top 2 or 3 seasons of his career. Apologies if Wilson in year 2 isn't as good as favre at his best
Didn't he miss several games with an injury or suspension that year? I'll look it up, and if I'm right I'll allow you to redact your statement

[Chief Brody]

He missed 10 games that season due to injury. You can offer your apology now.

[jeebus]

Why are people arguing this? Didn't you make a pie chart that explains your point? You can't argue with facts.

[spurraider21]

I'm actually bummed because no life faggot is supporting Wilson. Not a good sign tbh

[jeebus]

No lyfe faggot was my boy when I was a hardcore Pantherfan. Unfortunately, Schaub stole my heart :cry

[Spur-Addict]

:lol@ Niggas thinking Russell is Trent Dilfer

[spurraider21]

He missed 10 games that season due to injury. You can offer your apology now.
His 280 yards in those 6 games were signs of a promising season. Those vikes were already struggling before he went down that year, including rice. This is now his 7th season and the guys best season outside of Favre's magical year was last year where he put up 750 yards. Let's not make the guy out to be Brandon Marshall. Darrius Heyward bey had a 950 yard season in 15 games a few years ago but he's garbage. One season outliers shouldn't be an argumentative point

[Chief Brody]

His 280 yards in those 6 games were signs of a promising season. Those vikes were already struggling before he went down that year, including rice. This is now his 7th season and the guys best season outside of Favre's magical year was last year where he put up 750 yards. Let's not make the guy out to be Brandon Marshall. Darrius Heyward bey had a 950 yard season in 15 games a few years ago but he's garbage. One season outliers shouldn't be an argumentative point
I agree DHB is not that good, but like Rice he's also had sub-standard QB's throwing to him his whole career (outside of Favre's one healthy year). Btw, Those 6 Sidney Rice games came at the end of the season when the team was already in shambles (and Favre missed 3 of those).

Now you'll say, "How come DHB isn't killing it in Indy?" Let me stop you before you get excited. Rice>>>DHB, and Indy has at least 2 vastly better WR options. There is no better option in Seattle, he's undoubtedly their most talented WR threat.

Still waiting on that apology.

[spurraider21]

I was provin a point that rice isn't some perennial pro bowl player. Dude had ONE season with 800 yards and you are trying to claim he's a legit WR1 and elite talent that should make every qb look good. And DHB sucks balls. That is my point precisely. Yet his career yards per game is 38 while apparently elite Sidney rice checks in at 45.

Its understandable that Wilson isn't going to put up gargantuan numbers because they have a great defense and run game. Back when Big Ben took over for the steelers he wasn't lighting the stat sheets on fire despite having Hines ward

[spurraider21]

And :lol at the "would luck do better in Seattle" comments. Who set those goalposts? I think everyone here would agree that Luck is better than Wilson. Luck is one o the best qb prospects in my lifetime

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Oh I'm sorry, I missed this. Sure he had a 1,300 yard year. But to say he's in the upper echelon of wide outs, as in Graham, Green, Megatron, Fitz etc is something totally different. To discount a MVP candidate in that offense opening things up for Rice is something that is being taken lightly. I never said Rice isn't a good WR, he's just not great. I'm saying he's a 2, not a 1 (as far as ability is concerned). And, I'm sure you'll see better coverage for Rice once Percy returns, and his numbers will probably go up LOL
:lmao why are you calling Percy an MVP candidate? He was far from one in 2009. Sidney Rice was facing constant double coverage that season and making catches in spite of it, hence the Fitzgerald comparison.

If Sidney Rice isn't a great receiver why did Seattle pay him like one?

[Chief Brody]

I was provin a point that rice isn't some perennial pro bowl player. Dude had ONE season with 800 yards and you are trying to claim he's a legit WR1 and elite talent that should make every qb look good. And DHB sucks balls. That is my point precisely. Yet his career yards per game is 38 while apparently elite Sidney rice checks in at 45.

Its understandable that Wilson isn't going to put up gargantuan numbers because they have a great defense and run game. Back when Big Ben took over for the steelers he wasn't lighting the stat sheets on fire despite having Hines ward
Now we're moving onto Hines Ward I see. Anytime you wanna apologize for your 2 gaffes back there just let me know, fanboi

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

And :lol at the "would luck do better in Seattle" comments. Who set those goalposts? I think everyone here would agree that Luck is better than Wilson. Luck is one o the best qb prospects in my lifetime

Your boy Avante wouldn't.

[spurraider21]

I don't recall a gaffe. Rice had one big season out of 6 in his career an we are now latching onto his nuts because it
helps your Wilson argument. What's wrong with bringing up Hines ward, an actual pro bowl talent WR? Comparing Wilson to Ben in their early years seems reasonable to me

[spurraider21]

Your boy Avante wouldn't.
I absolutely couldn't care less

[Chief Brody]

:lol@ Niggas thinking Russell is Trent Dilfer
True, one has a ring

[Chief Brody]

I don't recall a gaffe. Rice had one big season out of 6 in his career an we are now latching onto his nuts because it
helps your Wilson argument. What's wrong with bringing up Hines ward, an actual pro bowl talent WR? Comparing Wilson to Ben in their early years seems reasonable to me
Not really. Ben was a road warrior. And you know damn well you forgot about Rice's injury in 2010, then backtracked and gaffed again by saying it occured at the begiining of the season before the team collapsed.

Do you always resort to lying when the argument's lost?

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

:lol When Seattle gave Sidney Rice a 5 year, $41,000,000 contract were they "latching onto his nuts"?

[Chief Brody]

:lol When Seattle gave Sidney Rice a 5 year, $41,000,000 contract were they "latching onto his nuts"?
No dude, that's the going rate for #2's leaguewide

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

No dude, that's the going rate for #2's leaguewide

:lol Sidney Rice making more money than sambo the game manager

[spurraider21]

Not really. Ben was a road warrior. And you know damn well you forgot about Rice's injury in 2010, then backtracked and gaffed again by saying it occured at the begiining of the season before the team collapsed.

Do you always resort to lying when the argument's lost?
I was wrong about rice's injury but my point remained valid that he had one season which by now legitimately looks like a fluke over the course of 7 years.

I will repeat, I was wrong about rice's injury situation in 2010

[spurraider21]

If it makes you feel happy to point out a mistake I made that's fine. But that doesn't change my big picture argument one bit

[Chief Brody]

I was wrong about rice's injury but my point remained valid that he had one season which by now legitimately looks like a fluke over the course of 7 years.

I will repeat, I was wrong about rice's injury situation in 2010
As long as you admit that he's only had one season of an elite pocket passer throwing him the ball (and coincidentally he was awesome that year), then sure.

[Spur-Addict]

:lmao why are you calling Percy an MVP candidate? He was far from one in 2009. Sidney Rice was facing constant double coverage that season and making catches in spite of it, hence the Fitzgerald comparison.

If Sidney Rice isn't a great receiver why did Seattle pay him like one?

While he surely wasn't an MVP candidate in 2009, he still had big play ability which created space. You have to account for that game breaking ability. Even in 2009 he was a game breaker.

:lol @ Contract numbers. There are plenty of bad contracts in every sport.

And I love this Fitz comparison. Lets see, 2010, Derek Anderson, yet he catches 1,100 yards and 6 TDS. 2011 Skelton/Kolb combo. 1,400 yards and 8 TDs.

Yeah, he's a number one on par with Larry Fitz. Fitz had a year with Skelton and Kolb that was better than Rice's best year with Favre! :lol

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

While he surely wasn't an MVP candidate in 2009, he still had big play ability which created space. You have to account for that game breaking ability. Even in 2009 he was a game breaker.

:lol @ Contract numbers. There are plenty of bad contracts in every sport.

And I love this Fitz comparison. Lets see, 2010, Derek Anderson, yet he catches 1,100 yards and 6 TDS. 2011 Skelton/Kolb combo. 1,400 yards and 8 TDs.

Yeah, he's a number one on par with Larry Fitz. Fitz had a year with Skelton and Kolb that was better than Rice's best year with Favre! :lol

All I've been saying is he inspired Fitzgerald comparisons in 2009. I'm not sure why you're trying to argue the strawman of Fitz vs. Rice.

:lol completely dismissing the fact Seattle is paying Rice like an elite receiver

[Chief Brody]

While he surely wasn't an MVP candidate in 2009, he still had big play ability which created space. You have to account for that game breaking ability. Even in 2009 he was a game breaker.

:lol @ Contract numbers. There are plenty of bad contracts in every sport.

And I love this Fitz comparison. Lets see, 2010, Derek Anderson, yet he catches 1,100 yards and 6 TDS. 2011 Skelton/Kolb combo. 1,400 yards and 8 TDs.

Yeah, he's a number one on par with Larry Fitz. Fitz had a year with Skelton and Kolb that was better than Rice's best year with Favre! :lol
Did he himself say Rice was on par with Fitz? He just said he was regarded that way in certain circles after that 2009 season. Apparently Seattle's management echoed those sentiments:lol

[Spur-Addict]

All I've been saying is he inspired Fitzgerald comparisons in 2009. I'm not sure why you're trying to argue the strawman of Fitz vs. Rice.

:lol completely dismissing the fact Seattle is paying Rice like an elite receiver

So what if he's being paid like an elite receiver, doesn't make him one. :lol@$$$ Always equaling talent level. Call it a poor front office move, I'm not salty about it. Ask Buffalo about det Fitz contract sonnnn. Plenty of examples out there. Anyways...

He can be compared as much as he wants, he still isn't on the level, no matter how hard people try to make it that way. LOL "Inspired"

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

So what if he's being paid like an elite receiver, doesn't make him one. :lol@$$$ Always equaling talent level. Call it a poor front office move, I'm not salty about it. Ask Buffalo about det Fitz contract sonnnn. Plenty of examples out there. Anyways...

He can be compared as much as he wants, he still isn't on the level, no matter how hard people try to make it that way. LOL "Inspired"
It makes it so, as Chief Brody said, Seattle seemed to buy into those Fitzgerald comparisons :lol

[spurraider21]

Rice didnt do much with hasselbeck tbh

[Chief Brody]

So what if he's being paid like an elite receiver, doesn't make him one. :lol@$$$ Always equaling talent level. Call it a poor front office move, I'm not salty about it. Ask Buffalo about det Fitz contract sonnnn. Plenty of examples out there. Anyways...

He can be compared as much as he wants, he still isn't on the level, no matter how hard people try to make it that way. LOL "Inspired"
Although we all agree Fitz never should've received that contract, it still was only the 21st highest QB contract among starters at the time. Not guaranteed money though, and he was off the books following 2012.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Rice didnt do much with hasselbeck tbh

:lmao what the fuck are you talking about? Rice and Hasselbeck were never on the same team.

[Spur-Addict]

Although we all agree Fitz never should've received that contract

I know.

[Chief Brody]

Rice didnt do much with hasselbeck tbh
You considered Matt Hasselbeck an elite passer in 2011? Curious what his #'s were then

[spurraider21]

It makes it so, as Chief Brody said, Seattle seemed to buy into those Fitzgerald comparisons :lol
Again, who cares? Those comparisons were bogus. Doesn't matter who bought into them at the time. Tell me more about how amazing Kevin kolb is since he got paid

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

You considered Matt Hasselbeck an elite passer in 2011? Curious what his #'s were then

He's making more stuff up :lol

Hasselbeck wasn't on Seattle in 2011. Their starting QB was Tarvaris Jackson that year :lol

[Chief Brody]

:lmao what the fuck are you talking about? Rice and Hasselbeck were never on the same team.
crofl, I didn't know this either--but it's great that he got caught with his hand in the cookie jar again:lol

[Chief Brody]

RIP spurraider.

[spurraider21]

:lmao yeah that was a fail on my part

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Again, who cares? Those comparisons were bogus. Doesn't matter who bought into them at the time. Tell me more about how amazing Kevin kolb is since he got paid

Kevin Kolb got cut after 2 seasons :lol

Sidney Rice is still getting paid that much with little guaranteed money left on his deal since Seattle feels he's worth the money :lol

:lol "Rice didn't do much with Hasselbeck"

[spurraider21]

I owned up to mistakes I made. Bad memory =/= making shit up IMO. I guess you need to alter your pie chart and give Sidney rice a bigger cut though, since he's an elite WR with one season over 750 yards

[Chief Brody]

Again, who cares? Those comparisons were bogus. Doesn't matter who bought into them at the time. Tell me more about how amazing Kevin kolb is since he got paid
For the coup de grace, one of your bogus comparisons. Kolb never had a full productive season to warrant a contract. Rice was a pro-bowler (iirc) on an NFC powerhouse in 2009. And it matters because people much smarter than you who are around football all the time decided he was worth that contract.

You fought the good fight, though. Try more fact-checking and less lying as you develop as a poster.

[Chief Brody]

I owned up to mistakes I made. Bad memory =/= making shit up IMO. I guess you need to alter your pie chart and give Sidney rice a bigger cut though, since he's an elite WR with one season over 750 yards
It was his catch that set up the first TD iirc, so your attempt at sarcasm backfired.

Not your day, is it?:lol

[Spur-Addict]

It makes it so, as Chief Brody said, Seattle seemed to buy into those Fitzgerald comparisons :lol

It makes it so? Nigga are you serious? :lol

That money sure made Fitz a talented mofo. Jake Locker LOL

[spurraider21]

How about we just boil it down to see where we stand. Here is the list of qb's I'd take over Russell Wilson.

Peyton, Rodgers, Brees, Brady, Luck, Ben, Ryan, Romo. Probably Flacco too. Also tough to rule out Rivers in this resurgent season, and Eli has the hardware to back it up as well. Still, I doubt any of those 3 make the seachickens noticeably better. Care to add to the list so I see how far off we are?

[spurraider21]

It was his catch that set up the first TD iirc, so your attempt at sarcasm backfired.

Not your day, is it?:lol
Not my finest ST moment tbh :rollin

i still fully stand by my conclusions, though

[Chief Brody]

Btw, Rice in fact set up their 2nd TD (not first) with an amazing, elite-quality catch where he tiptoed the sideline falling out of bounds. Check it out on the ESPN recap.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

I'd take Cutler, Eli, Tannehill and Stafford over Game Manager as well.

[Chief Brody]

I'd take Eli and his 2 SB's over him as well. Sure this season's a dumpster fire, but it'll be Eli's first under .500, and he of course has no defense and the last-ranked rushing offense in the league.

[Chief Brody]

Stafford as well for sure...maybe Cutler too, but he's so damn inconsistent although he's asked to do more.

[Spur-Addict]

LOL Tannehill

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Tannehill only has one more loss than Wilson with a significantly worse supporting cast and a victory over Luck + Matt Ryan.

[Chief Brody]

Tannehill only has one more loss than Wilson with a significantly worse supporting cast and a victory over Luck + Matt Ryan.
and Russell Wilson last year

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

and Russell Wilson last year

:lol truthbombs

[spurraider21]

But cutler in the bears for years has had an elite defense and a good running game and now has good receivers :cry

how many playoff wins does cutler have? And lol stafford. Predictably garbage when Calvin is out. Jump ball tosser extraordinaire who has broken records for attempts in a season, naturally inflating his stats despite mediocre completion percentages and ypa

[spurraider21]

So basically all this shitfest over the past month or so about Wilson boils down to you guys liking cutler stafford and tanehill more than Wilson :rollin

[spurraider21]

I just hope a couple of my comments in this thread get buried for a while :lol. Let's tax on a couple of more pages pls

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

So basically all this shitfest over the past month or so about Wilson boils down to you guys liking cutler stafford and tanehill more than Wilson :rollin

This "shitfest" dates back before this year :lol, mostly due to Avante and the NFL forum black panthers glorifying Wilson as much as possible.

And it gets annoying when Wilson has a pedestrian, game managing performance followed by Deion Sanders and Michael Irvin on NFL network acting like Russell Wilson just led a team to a 19-0 season hyping his performance up as much as possible.

[Chief Brody]

But cutler in the bears for years has had an elite defense and a good running game and now has good receivers :cry

how many playoff wins does cutler have? And lol stafford. Predictably garbage when Calvin is out. Jump ball tosser extraordinaire who has broken records for attempts in a season, naturally inflating his stats despite mediocre completion percentages and ypa
Stafford plays with a horrific defense and led the Detroit franchise to its best season since Wayne Fontes was snorting coke off hookers' asses. Cutler has taken his team to an NFCC game.

Wilson is part of a team that was then only 2 years removed from their most iconic franchise win (still), advancing to the divisional round. Last year they beat a one-legged QB to advance to the divisional round. Yay.

[Spur-Addict]

This "shitfest" dates back before this year :lol, mostly due to Avante and the NFL forum black panthers glorifying Wilson as much as possible.

Who's in the black panther party?

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Who's in the black panther party?

Creepn, Trill Clinton, JaytheClown, Huey Freeman, and Avante himself.

[Chief Brody]

This video holds true to this day...he's a pompous gasbag with only one good take in his life, and he saved it for ESPN:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGiTv_xRd5A

We're all still desirous to see this great black QB

[jeebus]

Creepn, Trill Clinton, JaytheClown, Huey Freeman, and Avante himself.
I haven't seen JaytheCoon in a while imo

[Chief Brody]

If Rush was still with us and not in an oxycoma he would stand up for the heart (defense) and soul (Lynch) of this Seattle team.

[Spur-Addict]

My defense of Russell Wilson does not discredit the Beast that Lynch is.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

If Rush was still with us and not in an oxycoma he would stand up for the heart (defense) and soul (Lynch) of this Seattle team.

Hey Chief, as someone else who's rarely sober :lol, what do you recommend as the best nightcap? I've found recently that alcohol is helping me go to sleep at a decent hour extremely effectively and I'm curious what the best combo has been in your experience :lol

[Chief Brody]

The good:

Cam Newton: sure, they beat a dogshit Matt Cassel-led Vikings team, but Cam had 242 yds and 4 total TD's. He'll go back to struggling going forward until they're 3-7, then shamelessly statpad like last year. Still, A for effort today.

Thad Lewis: From the street to facing the Bengals D in 9 days, he played with a ton of heart and kept the Bills in it. B+

The bad:

Russell Wilson: Some might say he was riding the coat-tails of Marshawn Lynch and a dominant defense to victory. But they didn't witness the clapping in the huddle, the dump-offs and checkdowns, and the purposefully errant throws (to test the skill of his wide receivers). His heroism is truly second to none. A++

Colin Kaepernick: 16/29, 252 yards, 2 tds, 1 int, 1 lost fumble (2 total fumbles). Don't be fooled by the stats, half those yards came off 2 blown coverages on Vernon Davis. Other than that, he made terrible decisions in the redzone and once again looked horribly uncomfortable in the pocket. Starting to look like the black blood cells are more prominent than the white ones. (Alex Smith is 6-0, btw). C-

The ugly:

Terrelle Pryor: 10 sacks, most in the circus-variety. Blame a crippled o-line all you want, but you can't be losing a 1/4 of the field on each sack. Throw in 3 picks for good measure. F

Geno Smith: LOL. F

Michael Vick: Watched the white man rape a top-flight secondary and now has 7 total td's in 2 games. He'll rush back from injury, hurt his team, then get injured again (stop me if you've seen that before). F

Cawnbread Griffin III: Awful. Like Kaepernick and Wilson, he's dogshit when you keep him in the pocket. D

Other:

Josh Freeman: This retread has earned a job by default, so his addition will make up for Vick's subtraction.

Revised, for the fanbois

[Chief Brody]

Hey Chief, as someone else who's rarely sober :lol, what do you recommend as the best nightcap? I've found recently that alcohol is helping me go to sleep at a decent hour extremely effectively and I'm curious what the best combo has been in your experience :lol
Take a vicodin or percocet along with an 800mg Ibuprofen/Motrin. The Motrin doesn't do anything by itself but it potentiates certain narcotics and makes them stronger:tu

[Spur-Addict]

:lol A++

As far as the alcohol is concerned, I like Makers on the rocks. Gentleman Jack on the rocks. Woodford Reserve on the rocks. That's a good place to start imo

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

:lol A++

As far as the alcohol is concerned, I like Makers on the rocks. Gentleman Jack on the rocks. Woodford Reserve on the rocks. That's a good place to start imo

Yeah I've been going Makers the last few nights.

[spurraider21]

This "shitfest" dates back before this year :lol, mostly due to Avante and the NFL forum black panthers glorifying Wilson as much as possible.

And it gets annoying when Wilson has a pedestrian, game managing performance followed by Deion Sanders and Michael Irvin on NFL network acting like Russell Wilson just led a team to a 19-0 season hyping his performance up as much as possible.
That's all fine and dandy but none of that applies to me. I haven't been posting on the NFL forum for very long. Pretty much a couple of weeks before the reg season started. Idc what NFL network says or if some posters call him a top 5 qb or something. I've never come out of nowhere to make a claim like "Wilson is a top 5 qb." Most of my posts regarding Wilson have only come in response to certain posters talking about him like he is Jon kitna or Matt schaub.

It took me a couple of weeks on this forum to realize how annoying Avante is, and for that first week or 2 I was called his semen shield... Similarly I've only been on this forum talking about Wilson for about a month, so don't go lumping me with said black panthers. I've always been low on kaep, rg3, etc. I just see more in Wilson than those guys

[Chief Brody]

As for booze I actually don't imbibe much anymore. I've gotta bottle of Glenfidditch which is some low-grade single malt, but it does the job.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Take a vicodin or percocet along with an 800mg Ibuprofen/Motrin. The Motrin doesn't do anything by itself but it potentiates certain narcotics and makes them stronger:tu

:lol isn't that like death for your liver?

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

That's all fine and dandy but none of that applies to me. I haven't been posting on the NFL forum for very long. Pretty much a couple of weeks before the reg season started. Idc what NFL network says or if some posters call him a top 5 qb or something. I've never come out of nowhere to make a claim like "Wilson is a top 5 qb." Most of my posts regarding Wilson have only come in response to certain posters talking about him like he is Jon kitna or Matt schaub.

It took me a couple of weeks on this forum to realize how annoying Avante is, and for that first week or 2 I was called his semen shield... Similarly I've only been on this forum talking about Wilson for about a month, so don't go lumping me with said black panthers. I've always been low on kaep, rg3, etc. I just see more in Wilson than those guys
:lol I wasn't asking you to defend your stance, I was just answering your question as to what started the shitfest.

[Chief Brody]

:lol isn't that like death for your liver?
:lolI wouldn't do it every day, but it's great a few days at a time for a quick buzz, then guaranteed sleep. Have a bunch of Motrin but no narcs left. Only thing I have is Klonopin and Ambien. If you have Klonopin (or any other benzo), put one under your tongue at night.

[Spur-Addict]

Josh Freeman will start in week 7

[spurraider21]

Josh Freeman will start in week 7
he's better than Cassel or Ponder, so its still an upgrade, despite himself

[Spur-Addict]

he's better than Cassel or Ponder, so its still an upgrade, despite himself

I agree. And I'm sure it'll make for some interesting discussion this week. If he does well, it'll be because of the running game. If not, well, you know how that goes :lol

But he does have some deficiencies. But he has thrown for 4,000 before so we'll see.

[Spur-Addict]

Respected Gunslinger Kurt Warner (Who once had 40 TDs in a season. Leader of the greatest show on turf, and a super bowl winning QB) on Russell Wilson (Around The League 10/16/2013):

"It doesn't surprise me when I hear that he's number two behind Michael Vick (in rushing this season) because, I don't think the issue is so much Russell Wilson. I can't really tell you how he's developed as far as becoming a passer BECAUSE I think they really struggle on the outside. Very seldom when they drop back do you see guys creating separation, guys that can win in one on one situations. And I think that's why we're seeing him run so much. It's that he drops back, and there's no separation, there's nobody open. And now hes gotta start creating, hes gotta create with his feet to make a throw down the field, or what he's doing more often is creating with his feet and running and picking up yards and moving the chains that way. So, it's hard for him to develop further as a passer without having weapons on the outside to help him".

http://www.seahawks.com/videos-photos/videos/Kurt_Warner_breaks_down_TNF_QBs/f6431931-8f2e-4a9e-9928-5373af112f74

[chunticakes]

the one time i took percocet it fucked me up. and i only took a 5/325. i'll stick to norco and xanax, tbh.

[spurraider21]

But Sidney rice had one really good season :cry

[DeadlyDynasty]

But Sidney rice had one really good season :cry
Coincidentally, the same year he had an above-average pocket passing QB.

Imagine that.

[DeadlyDynasty]

the one time i took percocet it fucked me up. and i only took a 5/325. i'll stick to norco and xanax, tbh.
lol APAP. What's norco tbh?

[jeebus]

lol APAP. What's norco tbh?
thispego loves this stuff tbh

http://www.rxlist.com/norco-drug.htm

hydrocodone and tylenol

[DeadlyDynasty]

I wish Vicodin did it for me:(

[spurraider21]

Coincidentally, the same year he had an above-average pocket passing QB.

Imagine that.
so he's a guy that requires an ideal situation to be productive. cool. good receivers tend to do well in spite of situations, unless they're just SO terrible like Arizona last year. fitzgerald put up numbers with nobodies. blackmon is putting up numbers with gabbert/henne. santonio holmes has been more productive with the jets than Rice has had anywhere outside of the one season

[chunticakes]

yeah lortab/norco/vico are all hydrocodone. the difference lies in the dosage of APAP in it.

what else are you guys into? i personally get a buzz from phenergan...hell even donnatal gives me a buzz.

[Spur-Addict]

so he's a guy that requires an ideal situation to be productive. cool. good receivers tend to do well in spite of situations, unless they're just SO terrible like Arizona last year. fitzgerald put up numbers with nobodies. blackmon is putting up numbers with gabbert/henne. santonio holmes has been more productive with the jets than Rice has had anywhere outside of the one season

They're a lost cause on the subject. It's over, we've made our point, and a respected QB who is a product of the model QB they respect, agrees with us :lol They can no longer latch on to the Rice debate, it's a wrap.

[Spur-Addict]

Oh, and since November 2012, Wilson is second in passer rating only to Peyton Manning.

[Bill_Brasky]

:lol sidney rice one good year 4 years ago makes him a larry fitz clone

[spurraider21]

Oh, and since November 2012, Wilson is second in passer rating only to Peyton Manning.
low volume has a big reason with that. i doubt wilson would have similar success if he was forced to carry a role as big as a guy like rodgers, brees. before the chiefs game Terrelle Pryror had a higher completion% from the pocket than Aaron Rodgers :lol

[chunticakes]

shit if you're gonna talk passer rating then romo is the greatest of all time. :rollin

[Spur-Addict]

low volume has a big reason with that. i doubt wilson would have similar success if he was forced to carry a role as big as a guy like rodgers, brees. before the chiefs game Terrelle Pryror had a higher completion% from the pocket than Aaron Rodgers :lol

I agree :lol But it's more of a display of diversity than anything else

[DeadlyDynasty]

yeah lortab/norco/vico are all hydrocodone. the difference lies in the dosage of APAP in it.what else are you guys into? i personally get a buzz from phenergan...hell even donnatal gives me a buzz.Phenergan indeed gives you a small buzz, so naturally hospitals are moving away from it and using Zofran more often now. Any Benzo is good...what's funny (and sad) is if I was blindfolded and given one, I could tell you exactly which one it was upon onset:lol

[Raven]

Respected Gunslinger Kurt Warner (Who once had 40 TDs in a season. Leader of the greatest show on turf, and a super bowl winning QB) on Russell Wilson (Around The League 10/16/2013):

"It doesn't surprise me when I hear that he's number two behind Michael Vick (in rushing this season) because, I don't think the issue is so much Russell Wilson. I can't really tell you how he's developed as far as becoming a passer BECAUSE I think they really struggle on the outside. Very seldom when they drop back do you see guys creating separation, guys that can win in one on one situations. And I think that's why we're seeing him run so much. It's that he drops back, and there's no separation, there's nobody open. And now hes gotta start creating, hes gotta create with his feet to make a throw down the field, or what he's doing more often is creating with his feet and running and picking up yards and moving the chains that way. So, it's hard for him to develop further as a passer without having weapons on the outside to help him".

http://www.seahawks.com/videos-photos/videos/Kurt_Warner_breaks_down_TNF_QBs/f6431931-8f2e-4a9e-9928-5373af112f74

so basically he said wilson sucks..

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

:lol Russell Wilson fanbois resorting to appeal to authority logical fallacies
:lol using Kurt jeebotard Warner's opinion as if it means anything
:lol Kurt Warner also thinks the world is 5,000 years old

[spurraider21]

Appeal to authority isn't necessarily a logical fallacy unless you are asking the wrong authority. Asking Kurt Warner about quarterbacking is fine IMO. Asking him about evolution would be an appeal to authority fallacy

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Appeal to authority isn't necessarily a logical fallacy unless you are asking the wrong authority. Asking Kurt Warner about quarterbacking is fine IMO. Asking him about evolution would be an appeal to authority fallacy
:lol by this logic Michael Jordan is an authority on evaluating basketball talent

[spurraider21]

Not necessarily. I'm not suggesting Warner is a talent evaluator or gm. But about quarterbacking of development as a passer? Sure why not.

:lol I never said I took warners analysis to heart. But it's not necessarily a logical fallacy. Kurt Warner knows more about quarterbacking than anybody does on this forum, I'd reckon. If over time we find his analysis to be faulty like mj's gm job, then sure, you'd be on point

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Not necessarily. I'm not suggesting Warner is a talent evaluator or gm. But about quarterbacking of development as a passer? Sure why not.

:lol I never said I took warners analysis to heart. But it's not necessarily a logical fallacy. Kurt Warner knows more about quarterbacking than anybody does on this forum, I'd reckon. If over time we find his analysis to be faulty like mj's gm job, then sure, you'd be on point

:lol The assumption that Kurt Warner is an expert until proven otherwise makes no logical sense whatsoever. The burden of proof doesn't rest on proving the negative.

Since we had to assume MJ knows more than anyone else (even though there was no evidence he did) until proven otherwise, when exactly did MJ prove he didn't know more than anyone else? When he picked Kwame Brown? Adam Morrison? Somewhere in between? Be specific as I'm curious what the criteria is.

Saying "Well Kurt Warner certainly knows more than anyone on this forum" is precisely what an appeal to authority logical fallacy.

http://examples.yourdictionary.com/examples/examples-of-fallacies.html



Appeal to Authority - This type of fallacy is also referred to as Argumentum ad Verecundia (argument from modesty). In this case, rather than focusing on the merits of an argument, the arguer will try to attach their argument to a person of authority in an attempt to give credence to their argument.


For example: “Well, Isaac Newton believed in Alchemy, do you think you know more than Isaac Newton?"

:lol replicating what's given as an example of a logical fallacy while claiming it isn't a logical fallacy

[spurraider21]

:lol The assumption that Kurt Warner is an expert until proven otherwise makes no logical sense whatsoever. The burden of proof doesn't rest on proving the negative.

Since we had to assume MJ knows more than anyone else (even though there was no evidence he did) until proven otherwise, when exactly did MJ prove he didn't know more than anyone else? When he picked Kwame Brown? Adam Morrison? Somewhere in between? Be specific as I'm curious what the criteria is.

Saying "Well Kurt Warner certainly knows more than anyone on this forum" is precisely what an appeal to authority logical fallacy.

http://examples.yourdictionary.com/examples/examples-of-fallacies.html

:lol replicating what's given as an example of a logical fallacy while claiming it isn't a logical fallacy
Crofl. I'm not pointing to the argument and saying "it's correct on the grounds that kurt warner said it." He made some points which you didn't refute. All you tried to do was discredit Warner completely because he's a jeebotard. If you actually addressed his points and brought a valid reason to dismiss them, and I followed that by saying "ur wrong Kurt Warner is smarter" then it would be a fallacy.
:lol not understanding the basis of a logical fallacy

[spurraider21]

Why don't you address the argument instead of scratching and clawing just looking for a loophole to get out of it

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Crofl. I'm not pointing to the argument and saying "it's correct on the grounds that kurt warner said it."
This is precisely what Spurs-Addict did right here:

They're a lost cause on the subject. It's over, we've made our point, and a respected QB who is a product of the model QB they respect, agrees with us :lol They can no longer latch on to the Rice debate, it's a wrap.
"Kurt Warner said it, it's a wrap!"
You then proceeded to claim that wasn't a logical fallacy. Are you now admitting Spur-Addict did employ a logical fallacy?



He made some points which you didn't refute.
What points did he make exactly and how did he back them up? Be specific.



All you tried to do was discredit Warner completely because he's a jeebotard.
The burden of proof doesn't rest on me to discredit the opinion. The fact Kurt Warner has the opinion doesn't automatically give it credit.



If you actually addressed his points and brought a valid reason to dismiss them, and I followed that by saying "ur wrong Kurt Warner is smarter" then it would be a fallacy.
:lol not understanding the basis of a logical fallacy
Why does the burden of proof rest on me to dismiss the point? Because Kurt Warner said it?

"ur wrong Kurt Warner is smarter" is also essentially what you did right fuckin here :lmao

Kurt Warner knows more about quarterbacking than anybody does on this forum, I'd reckon.

[spurraider21]

I'm driving home but :lol I have to address this load of crap. Hang tight

[chunticakes]

Phenergan indeed gives you a small buzz, so naturally hospitals are moving away from it and using Zofran more often now. Any Benzo is good...what's funny (and sad) is if I was blindfolded and given one, I could tell you exactly which one it was upon onset:lol

hospitals are shying away from phenergan too because of its extrapyramidal side effects. i slammed some on a guy the other day and he tried running out of the hospital lol. but in any event, you have a gift. we should hang out and enjoy a benzo/booze party lol.

[spurraider21]

This is precisely what Spurs-Addict did right here:

"Kurt Warner said it, it's a wrap!"
You then proceeded to claim that wasn't a logical fallacy. Are you now admitting Spur-Addict did employ a logical fallacy?



What points did he make exactly and how did he back them up? Be specific.



The burden of proof doesn't rest on me to discredit the opinion. The fact Kurt Warner has the opinion doesn't automatically give it credit.



Why does the burden of proof rest on me to dismiss the point? Because Kurt Warner said it?

"ur wrong Kurt Warner is smarter" is also essentially what you did right fuckin here :lmao

dont feel like making separate quotes....

a) Nobody, neither me nor Spursaddict, said "this is right because Kurt Warner said so." he just posted a quote from kurt warner about the topic of russell wilson

b) Again, nobody said "it's a wrap" or made it seem like Kurt Warner's quote was an end-all-be-all judgement. you sir, are talking straight of your your ass

c) Points that Kurt Warner made: Wilson's offensive line is struggling, which forces him to move around since there isn't enough time for the receivers to get into position to make a play. This is supported by the fact that their 2 tackles are hurt and their center missed 1 (or i think 2) game(s). Warner also brought up the fact that Seahawk receivers are struggling to gain separation, which means Wilson needs to decide between throwing into tight coverage or taking off with it. Combine the OL and the WR problems, and you have a guy who's true passing skill might not be reflected in the numbers

d) Just because Kurt Warner said it doesn't mean its true. I fully recognize that. But he's a guy that made an argument and brought up points. They should still be addressed if you are going to take the position that Wilson isn't all that good. Attacking him ad hominum saying "oh his opinion sucks because he's a creationist" is retarded and a fallacy on your own behalf. Discredit the arguments. Not the guy arguing.

e) Saying Kurt Warner knows more about quarterbacking than we do (which is probably true) doesn't mean he is 100% right evaluating Wilson. I never said that. Quit putting words in my mouth. He's a guy that has played the position and made a case. Regardless of his credibility in your eyes, if he is so wrong on this issue, you should be able to explain it by trying to show me why his points are incorrect or how misguided his arguments are.

[Lincoln]

Y'all are arguing about the dumbest shit tbh. It was a good discussion until the fallacy Kurt Warner shit came into play imo

[spurraider21]

blame ur boy dok for that one. he'll climb any mountain, cross any river to avoid giving Wilson a shred of props

[Avante]

Russell Wilson has won more games than either Luck or RGIII, he has won a playoff game, he has thrown for more td's.

[Spur-Addict]

They're a lost cause on the subject. It's over, we've made our point, and a respected QB who is a product of the model QB they respect, agrees with us :lol They can no longer latch on to the Rice debate, it's a wrap.

I never said Warner is an expert. I said, a model of the type of QB a lot of people deep throat on this forum agrees with my argument, and presents a lot of the same points. Saying someone is respected, is not calling them an expert, or even an authority. Someone is reaching. There's a difference there. It's a good thing his argument was disputed and disproved LOL

I never said, "Kurt Warner is an expert who agrees with me THEREFORE I am correct". And I never said Warner's points on their own is enough to win the debate. I said, we've made our point, and a Gunslinger happens to agree. It's over.

Also, Lynch carried the Seahawk offense to victory VS the Cardinals last night, did you guys see that? Poor game manager Wilson didn't bring the goods. I don't have to argue for Wilson, he does it on his own.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Appeal to authority is not a fallacy only if there is no dispute amongst the authorities. Generally speaking when judging an argument if there is mostly a consensus such as is the case in the climate debate then you can ignore the severe minority but of course you do not have to. If the authorities dispute amongst themselves then at the end of the day you can not logically induce that the claim to be true.

In the case of football where there are 30 opinions on pretty much every topic appealing to authority is pretty worthless. The only thing safe at that point is the most conventional of conventional like turnovers are key or a pass rush is important. When you get into how to execute specific techniques then you can make such inductions. Generalizations are typically worthless. There is too much divergence when you look at specifics.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

And the OP is more asinine race baiting from the racist multitroll.

Downplay any accomplishment and grandstand or straight up fabricate shit to denigrate. It's pretty sad when you use multiple accounts so as to seem that your position is widely held.

[spurraider21]

fuzzy lumpkins regulating

[Malik Z. Shabazz]

My FROST BROTHERS, where is THIS week's thread? Or do the DEVILS with an AGENDA only APPEAR when its EASY?

WEEK 7:

Russy Shakazulu Wilson: WIN
Geno 'Vino' Smith: WIN
Killa Cam Newton: WIN
Colin Kaptain Afrika: WIN
Thaddeus 'Mandela' Lewis: WIN

FROSTIES, behold the the NEW AGE of the Nubian QB.

Allahu AKbar.

[Trainwreck2100]

edit

[Chief Brody]

:lolShakazulu

[Pelicans78]

hospitals are shying away from phenergan too because of its extrapyramidal side effects. i slammed some on a guy the other day and he tried running out of the hospital lol. but in any event, you have a gift. we should hang out and enjoy a benzo/booze party lol.

Phenergan PO is fine. It's the IV form which is the problem. The big problem is how it destroys veins when injected. That's a big reason Zofran is being used more.

[Malik Z. Shabazz]

My BROTHERS, how could I forget my cornball brother Robert 'Oreo' Griffin III? WIN.

Allahu Akbar

[HarlemHeat37]

Today may have been the greatest day in Black QB history, tbh:lol..

[Chief Brody]

Phenergan PO is fine. It's the IV form which is the problem. The big problem is how it destroys veins when injected. That's a big reason Zofran is being used more.
Yeah, it's very caustic on the veins...not nearly as bad as Dilantin though--3-4 years ago I saw a new nurse attempt to give that IVP to a pt:wow

hospitals are shying away from phenergan too because of its extrapyramidal side effects. i slammed some on a guy the other day and he tried running out of the hospital lol. but in any event, you have a gift. we should hang out and enjoy a benzo/booze party lol.

No doubt....Klonopin to chill out, Ativan for the buzz, valium for sleep, and Versed for the chick before you date rape her. Speaking of Benzos, my flight company now carries Flumazenil/Romazicon for reversal---does that really work? I heard it's very hit-or-miss.

[Chief Brody]

Today may have been the greatest day in Black QB history, tbh:lol..

w/o question it is...and they still have Freeman left tomorrow.

[jeebus]

w/o question it is...and they still have Freeman left tomorrow.
Even the Jews had a good day in the camps tbh.

[fevertrees]

congrats to all the monkeyballers

[chunticakes]

Speaking of Benzos, my flight company now carries Flumazenil/Romazicon for reversal---does that really work? I heard it's very hit-or-miss.

i've given it a few times and haven't really noticed a big difference like with narcan. but know knows.

[Trill Clinton]

My FROST BROTHERS, where is THIS week's thread? Or do the DEVILS with an AGENDA only APPEAR when its EASY?

WEEK 7:

Russy Shakazulu Wilson: WIN
Geno 'Vino' Smith: WIN
Killa Cam Newton: WIN
Colin Kaptain Afrika: WIN
Thaddeus 'Mandela' Lewis: WIN

FROSTIES, behold the the NEW AGE of the Nubian QB.

Allahu AKbar.

http://i43.tinypic.com/33u6748.gif


Today may have been the greatest day in Black QB history, tbh:lol..

http://i44.tinypic.com/35bz8g7.gif

[AntiChrist]

Appeal to authority is not a fallacy only if there is no dispute amongst the authorities. Generally speaking when judging an argument if there is mostly a consensus such as is the case in the climate debate then you can ignore the severe minority....


It wasn't until quite recently that doctors began treating peptic ulcers with antibiotics. There was a consensus view that ulcers were caused by diet, smoking, alcohol, stress, etc. So much for consensus.

[resistanze]

http://i43.tinypic.com/33u6748.gif


:lol

[Bill_Brasky]

black QBs went HAM this week :lol

[Spur-Addict]

Russell Wilson has been pressured on 46.6% of pass attempts, that's the most of any quarterback in the NFL. The average is 36%.

[AchillesHeel]

:lol

[Trainwreck2100]

ruhroh

Kap had what amounts to a bye this week and RW is going up against a team with no qb on 10 days rest though

[spurraider21]

Terrelle Pryor got the W, tbh

[jag]

Hey Chief, as someone else who's rarely sober :lol, what do you recommend as the best nightcap? I've found recently that alcohol is helping me go to sleep at a decent hour extremely effectively and I'm curious what the best combo has been in your experience :lol


Take a vicodin or percocet along with an 800mg Ibuprofen/Motrin. The Motrin doesn't do anything by itself but it potentiates certain narcotics and makes them stronger:tu

So young. So much potential.


This will not end well.