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mute
11-25-2013, 05:56 PM
With the recent news of Derrick Rose being out the entire season, I've heard from various sources around the league that the Bulls are "posed to unload all of their assets and start the rebuilding phase now". They have a couple of very valuable pieces that contending teams need (namely, Noah, Boozer, and Deng). Sources are telling me they are unwilling to part with Jimmy Butler though.

I was just wondering if there's anything that the Spurs could offer them? I think we're decently full at the center position since most teams are going to play small anyways (that's not saying that I wouldn't want Noah). I'm more interested in the prospect of making a move for either Deng and/or Boozer.

I was playing with the ESPN trade machine to see if I could get a trade to work, but it wouldn't let me (unless I included either Duncan or Parker, but both of those guys are untradeable).

I was thinking (however)...

Bulls Receive:
Cory Joseph
2014 First Round Pick
Rights to Ryan Richards
Rights to Livio Jean-Charles
Rights to Deshaun Thomas
$8 million in cash considerations

Spurs Receive:
Luol Deng
Kirk Henrich

Why the Bulls do this:
The Bulls need to stock up on draft picks and young talent. They get a couple of projects and an NBA ready point guard in Cory Joseph while Derrick Rose rehabs.

Why the Spurs do this:
The Spurs need another SF to backup Kwahi. Deng is perfect for a smaller "bigger" lineup (if that makes any sense). Henrich is a veteran with a ton of playoff experience.

szkorhetz
11-25-2013, 05:57 PM
TBH, Taj is the most natural fit and would solve the biggest need from the Bulls roster on our team.

apalisoc_9
11-25-2013, 05:59 PM
:lol

N0 LyF3 ScRuB
11-25-2013, 06:01 PM
I would love Deng on the team.

mute
11-25-2013, 06:03 PM
I would love Deng on the team.

Deng is set to become a free agent. Do we risk trading Cory Joseph for a 1 year rental (Deng may not re-sign with us)?

jkid12456
11-25-2013, 06:08 PM
nobody replaces my paty mills

Brunodf
11-25-2013, 06:12 PM
Deng sucks

DesignatedT
11-25-2013, 06:12 PM
:lol

Mugen
11-25-2013, 06:16 PM
Deng is set to become a free agent. Do we risk trading Cory Joseph for a 1 year rental (Deng may not re-sign with us)?

:lol Ignoring the fact that it would never happen, you would absolutely trade away CoJo for a Deng rental.

Marrow
11-25-2013, 06:29 PM
i'm no gm but surely the bulls could get more than that for deng...

mute
11-25-2013, 06:41 PM
i'm no gm but surely the bulls could get more than that for deng...

Are you sure about that? We're giving them two 1st round talent, 8 mill in cash considerations, another 1st round pick, and two projects
the upshot is that NONE of these guys are on the books for any more than 2 years (including this year, allowing them a lot of flexibility)

look_at_g_shred
11-25-2013, 06:42 PM
I'll take Noah please!

DMC
11-25-2013, 06:44 PM
Luol Deng is a good player. He'll command more than the Spurs are willing to pay him. He'll either stay in Chicago or end up in LA.

hater
11-25-2013, 06:47 PM
Kirk Heinrich would be the best pickup from that team. Deng is a worse version of Kawhi and Noah is good but I'm sure someone will overpay him.

now Kirk Heinrich would solve our PG problems easily.

Mel_13
11-25-2013, 06:52 PM
mute is really quite the underrated troll.

Sources are telling me...

Do we risk trading Cory Joseph...

Rights to Ryan Richards...

$8 million in cash considerations...

Quality stuff, IMO...

elemento
11-25-2013, 06:53 PM
8 million in cash considerations :lol

It's not soccer son. There are rules !

DJR210
11-25-2013, 06:58 PM
inb4 teazee trade machine link..

Marrow
11-25-2013, 07:01 PM
Are you sure about that? We're giving them two 1st round talent, 8 mill in cash considerations, another 1st round pick, and two projects
the upshot is that NONE of these guys are on the books for any more than 2 years (including this year, allowing them a lot of flexibility)

Richards is never playing in the nba...and if he does it won't be for very long

Joseph will be a back up pg at best in his career

Thomas is a fringe nba talent who is really positionless on the defensive end...he can score though I'll give him that

Livio is a project as you said...but is still an unknown quantity (though I would rather the spurs develop him)

The way the year is going we'll probably end up picking 28-30 in this years draft...this is a deep draft but it's basically a 2nd rounder

......I understand that these guys aren't on the books and that gives the bulls some financial flexibility, however imo cap space is sort of a mirage...I would rather trade for known commodities in the league or accrue multiple future draft picks...

I think if the bulls follow that path, they set themselves up better in the long run, and will be contending again sooner rather than later

dylankerouac
11-25-2013, 07:28 PM
No way does Boozer come back.

Brazil
11-25-2013, 07:28 PM
I love how people usually see deng as a kind of vet... Dude is 28 y/o he is gonna get paid and won't play off the bench. He is injury prone but he is reaching his prime...

maybe cauz he looks old

Brazil
11-25-2013, 07:29 PM
No way does Boozer come back.

:lol

gnsf0946
11-25-2013, 07:30 PM
I love how people usually see deng as a kind of vet... Dude is 28 y/o he is gonna get paid and won't play off the bench. He is injury prone but he is reaching his prime...

maybe cauz he looks old

the way Thibs manages minutes, he might as well be 35

playbonner15
11-25-2013, 07:34 PM
No way does Boozer come back.
THIS.

Deng = International Intelligence but FO got nothing to offer him

skulls138
11-25-2013, 07:40 PM
I was thinking the other day how Hinrich would make a good backup.

Obstructed_View
11-25-2013, 08:04 PM
Deng is set to become a free agent. Do we risk trading Cory Joseph for a 1 year rental (Deng may not re-sign with us)?

:lol Seriously I doubt the Spurs would be the hold-up on that trade. If you could give up Joseph for him, you'd be out of your mind not to do it. A rejuvenated Deng makes the Spurs really really dangerous. Never happen, though.

313
11-25-2013, 08:22 PM
No way does Boozer come back.

HarlemHeat37
11-25-2013, 08:33 PM
Deng is a worse version of Leonard at this point, tbh..he has the same flaws as Kawhi(creating his own shot due to weak dribbling skills), he can't shoot anymore and he's a declining defender..he doesn't make sense on this team, and I wouldn't waste any assets on him if I was the GM of any team, tbh..

Noah can't stay healthy, he's fragile, it appears that his feet are going to be a long-term issue..

The only Bulls player that would interest me is Taj Gibson, tbh, although his erratic offensive ability is troubling..

DPG21920
11-25-2013, 08:55 PM
Deng is a worse version of Leonard at this point, tbh..he has the same flaws as Kawhi(creating his own shot due to weak dribbling skills), he can't shoot anymore and he's a declining defender..he doesn't make sense on this team, and I wouldn't waste any assets on him if I was the GM of any team, tbh..

Noah can't stay healthy, he's fragile, it appears that his feet are going to be a long-term issue..

The only Bulls player that would interest me is Taj Gibson, tbh, although his erratic offensive ability is troubling..

Taj is solid,but no way do I want his contract.

james evans
11-25-2013, 09:10 PM
offer ginobli for them and see if they are dumb enough to take him. at this point, a few members up here wouldn't even take lebron james for ginobli because he's gonna do great things this year and he has about 5 yeas left playing at the top.

skulls138
11-25-2013, 09:29 PM
Deng is a worse version of Leonard at this point, tbh..he has the same flaws as Kawhi(creating his own shot due to weak dribbling skills),I dont know how true this actually is about Kawhi. He might not be allowed to take it off the dribble. Sometimes it seems he's better than the perception.

exstatic
11-25-2013, 10:01 PM
8 million in cash considerations :lol

It's not soccer son. There are rules !

Not to mention salary matching rules.