Game 20: Spurs vs Pacers: Sat. Dec 7, 2013 7:30 PM

[DieHardSpursFan1537]

Gotta love Kawhi!

[r0drig0lac]

Upset but Pop = overrated, only effective with a prime Tim Duncan
no, Spurs still have the best league system ... so do not have a squad to run against elite teams

[TXstbobcat]

Mills333

[timtonymanu]

Hmm? This time last season the Spurs were 12-4 in the month of November. Beat OKC, almost beat Miami in the Pop-Gate scandal game. Spurs fans were optimistic about that, since the Spurs almost beat Miami with the Toros.... Not the occasion thus far. Spurs have not beaten good opponents..

People were starting threads last year saying the Spurs couldn't beat the good teams of the league. Saying the OKC win was a fluke cause we won off a buzzer beater.

[ElNono]

George gonna play all game?

[DieHardSpursFan1537]

There we go

[crc21209]

The Spurs need to D up, the Pacers offense isnt this good come on now...

[Ice009]

Spurs gave up. Disappointing.

Too bad Thomas wasn't active to get some minutes tonight.

Why call someone up and fucking laze around before you get him in uniform?

[loveforthegame]

Gotta love Kawhi!

The way some people talk about him they'd rather have RJ or Finley instead.

[313]

Why doesn't Pop tell Tony to stop helping on D and giving up 3s. If we can see it, surely he can.

[Darius McCrary]

WTF has happened we can't beat a single good team anymore

[Harry Callahan]

Put a little pressure on them please.

[BatManu20]

Thank God this game isn't being nationally televised tbh

[crc21209]

:lol At that being a foul.

[Godbama]

I mean at the very least we could keep it competitive at home, getting blown out in San Antonio is fucking embarrassing. If we lost by four I might be able to shrug this off and just go, a game's a game, just a season game, but this shit is a cause for concern.

[ElNono]

2pt shot

[RD2191]

is jeff ayres a mole? tbh?

[KaiRMD1]

Come on man, Jeff Ayres is in again?

[Darius Bieber]

People were starting threads last year saying the Spurs couldn't beat the good teams of the league. Saying the OKC win was a fluke cause we won off a buzzer beater.

To be fair, I'm sure most Spurs fans would take a fluke win over a legit contender now.

[cjw]

First blowout of the year. Rest were competitive into the fourth. If the only losses on your docket are OKC, Houston (beat them once too albeit without Harden), Portland and Pacers, you're doing okay. Should have four wins to help the cliffjumpers get over it until we head to the west coast.

[ElNono]

:lmao ayres

[weeks]

ayres.

[Diego20]

OH COME ON HAHAHA

[spurtech09]

spurs blow....can't beat atleast one good team

[Chomag]

fuking Ayres

[Captivus]

HAHAHAHA!!! OMG AYRES!!!

[SanDiegoSpursFan]

Okay I'm on that Ayres hate train now :lol

[timtonymanu]

Jesus, Ayres. :lol

[TXstbobcat]

How in the fuck did ayers miss that?????

[Libri]

Ayres :lmao

[timtonymanu]

Move over, Nando. You aren't the worst player on the team.

[spurtech09]

soooooo what is there to talk about this game is over

[ElNono]

damn... Manu probably done for the night :td

[crc21209]

So is tonight a good night to pull out the soft card for Pop? :lol

[r0drig0lac]

with height .. is this guy dunk or blocking .. simple ... lose layup is ridiculous

[Juggity]

If all Ayres is going to do is try to dunk, I'd rather have Baynes out there at this point. At least Baynes can finish.

[KaiRMD1]

......I hate Jeff Ayres, why the fuck is he on this team?

[DieHardSpursFan1537]

Boris with the brick

[mVp]

Ayres is awful, painful to watch him out there tbh

[spurtech09]

what ever happened to defense

[timtonymanu]

No more excuses for Ayres. He doesn't need to get comfortable with the team in order to finish a layup inside.

[ElNono]

cant hit a shot

[crc21209]

Everybody is off tonight, even Belli and Diaw who have been hot all season...

[r0drig0lac]

lol...29-70 FG until the moment

[spurtech09]

enjoying mvp's booty shaking girl gif.

[Captivus]

At least we didn't lose to Cleveland...

[Chomag]

Are the spurs beating any Elite team this year?

[DieHardSpursFan1537]

Well, wasn't expecting this bad of a loss...

[loveforthegame]

Wheels fell off in the 2nd quarter and the Spurs never recovered.

[Harry Callahan]

What an embarrassment this is.

Indiana is spitting in their face and they are taking it.

Pathetic.

[KaiRMD1]

White flag time, I'm done. See all you ol' sports next game.

[ace3g]

even though the long lay off is partially to blame for this blow out (hit wall energy wise) I'm officially retiring Melissa and starting game threads for a while.

[spurtech09]

do the spurs even want to play

[r0drig0lac]

Are the spurs beating any Elite team this year?
elite team full? ...not

[justinandimcool]

lmfao TOSB's with zero heart playing against their bff's, and Indiana shows no mercy.

Elite team stops Tony = Spurs loss. Not enough talent on the roster to pick up the slack. We are NOT elite.

[timtonymanu]

Damn, Indiana is about to end the home streak.

This is a legit Pacer team anyway.

[Chomag]

I wouldn't be so dissapointed even if the spurs lost as long as they competed....

[McGusto55]

What an embarrassment this is.

Indiana is spitting in their face and they are taking it.

Pathetic. I agree

[RD2191]

time to rebuild tbh, pops gimmick offense has been exposed and will only get us wins against scrub teams. this team won't even sniff the wcf without leonard taking a major role and blossoming in that role. pop ain't even trying to develop him tbh. i wouldnt mind he losses if it meant kawhi was actually getting better as a player. but as it stands, that isn't the case.

[mVp]

Pacers are the better team, period. Anyway, I thought the game was gonna be a lot closer than this tbh...

[crc21209]

Fuck it. It's the NBA, the Cavs beat the Clippers tonight :lol

[timtonymanu]

time to rebuild tbh, pops gimmick offense has been exposed and will only get us wins against scrub teams. this team won't even sniff the wcf without leonard taking a major role and blossoming in that role. pop ain't even trying to develop him tbh. i wouldnt mind he losses if it meant kawhi was actually getting better as a player. but as it stands, that isn't the case.

[ElNono]

just hand them the december championship...

[timtonymanu]

Kawhi giving us some highlights at least.

[Cry Havoc]

Cliff jumpers aplenty in this thread. :lol. Weak shit.

[TheGoldStandard]

Pop chokes under quality opponents. Shitty line ups. Shifty rotation.

[LakerHater]

Guess the Spurs really neede Tiago!

[spurtech09]

fuck the refs too

[DieHardSpursFan1537]

I love Kawhi's attitude of never giving up

[Chomag]

lol Ayers

[SanDiegoSpursFan]

wow such dramatic whistles

[still.focused]

Pacers are WAAAAAAAAAAAAY better unfortunately
What are the chances that Ayers is the worst big in the league?

[timtonymanu]

Cliff jumpers aplenty in this thread. :lol. Weak shit.

I'm just copying robdiaz's schtick. But still, this loss kinda sucks. :lol Oh well, it's only December.

[Rito3d30]

fools gold
has this team ever win any legit team this season?

[crc21209]

Pacers are the better team, period. Anyway, I thought the game was gonna be a lot closer than this tbh...

Maybe right now. But its easy to have the record that they do in that joke of a conference...:lol

[Hemotivo]

ayres should learn something from scola

[r0drig0lac]

kawhi shows that it can take offensively .. pop and lock it because of the big three ... I think he is losing his hand in time to renew .. especially after the boy showed the final

[Darius Bieber]

fools gold
has this team ever win any legit team this season?
Some Spurs fans say the Warriors... But it was without Curry and someone else...

[Chomag]

it's only "insert month" in full swing

[thunderup]

:lmao Spurs getting slapped by every elite team
:lmao fools gold last yearPERIOD

[Rito3d30]

2m for this:lol

[$pursDynasty]

Not cliff jumping BUT the sad thing is I liked the way the Spurs were looking halfway thru the 2nd and then the bottom dropped out.

[spurtech09]

Cliff jumpers aplenty in this thread. :lol. Weak shit.no one is cliff jumpig...we just the spurs to beat a good team

[RD2191]

it's only "insert month" in full swing
:loltbh

[Cry Havoc]

no one is cliff jumpig...we just the spurs to beat a good team

It's.
Fucking.
DECEMBER.

Act like you've been a spurs fan for more than 2 Fucking years.

[blkroadrunners]

Kawhi 333 finally

[Captivus]

Look at the bright side...I have Paul George on my Fantasy League.

[Chomag]

Cliff jumpers aplenty in this thread. :lol. Weak shit.
Wanting the Spurs to defeat a top tier nba team is cliff jumping? Ok ill try to lower expectations for you then.

[Johnny RIngo]

......I hate Jeff Ayres, why the fuck is he on this team?

Probably because SA hired that moron Boylen as assistant coach(used to work for the Pacers). He probably recommended Ayres to Pop/Buford. Horrible signing though. Wasted the MLE for Jackie Butler 2.0. There are D-League big men that would be more productive than Ayres at half the price.

[Libri]

Release Malcolm Thomas!

[LkrFan]

:lmao Spurs getting slapped by every elite team
:lmao fools gold last yearPERIOD

"N:lolt worried here"
--DMC

[Harry Callahan]

I hate David West and Jeff Ayers.

[SanDiegoSpursFan]

BORIS DUNK WOOOOOOOH!

[TXstbobcat]

Diaw!!

[TheGoldStandard]

If the spurs could beat 1 elite team is be happy but that has yet to happen. Struggled against atlanta.

[Cry Havoc]

Pacers lost by 16 to the Bulls, guess they aren't elite either. :lol

Miami got blown out twice this year, guess they aren't elite either. :lol

[blkroadrunners]

:lol West making all these tough mid shots yet Ayres can't make a wide open layup

[Ice009]

Scrub Ayers.

[Hemotivo]

wow sstepehnson

[loveforthegame]

Pacers lost by 16 to the Bulls, guess they aren't elite either. :lol

Miami got blown out twice this year, guess they aren't elite either. :lol

[RD2191]

Wanting the Spurs to defeat a top tier nba team is cliff jumping? Ok ill try to lower expectations for you then.

[ElNono]

Probably because SA hired that moron Boylen as assistant coach(used to work for the Pacers). He probably recommended Ayres to Pop/Buford. Horrible signing though. Wasted the MLE for Jackie Butler 2.0. There are D-League big men that would be more productive than Ayres at half the price.

One more time, he's not making MLE money... not even close...

[Juggity]

I thought Indiana was supposed to be a trash heap on offense? Their ball movement seems comparable to the spurs'

[McGusto55]

:lmao Spurs getting slapped by every elite team
:lmao fools gold last yearPERIOD

Who's this bitch......

[Cry Havoc]

"N:lolt worried here"
--DMC

These idiots were saying the exact same thing last year. They were sure getting smashed in December meant we are a for sure first round playoff exit. Because they know basketball so well. :lol

[ElNono]

Shit, we're gonna be 15-4... there's still time to tank for Wiggins?

[TheGoldStandard]

Whatever Ayres is earning it's way too much

[mute]

blame the spurs front office. too cheap to spend money. neal only wanted 4mill a year. now (the twilight years of duncan, parker, ginobili) is not the time to be fuckin cheap and pinch pennies. the spurs will be the leagues floormat for the next 10 years after duncan and pop retire, then they can be cheap all they want. instead of selling out money for some decent players, they try to find d-league players

[Johnny RIngo]

Not cliff jumping BUT the sad thing is I liked the way the Spurs were looking halfway thru the 2nd and then the bottom dropped out.

It's typcial Pop. 10 pt lead against a good team and he decides to fuck around with lineups.

[Chomag]

$1 is to much for Ayers

[RD2191]

so how many rings have the spurs won since duncan left his prime? I'll wait. Spurs can't use the its just the regular season excuse. if we had some rings to show for it recently then maybe. but not this team. our top players are all an year older and some of you think this team isn't in trouble?:lol

[LkrFan]

Shit, we're gonna be 15-4... there's still time to tank for Wiggins?
If y'all play Indiana 50 more times, sure! :lol

[DMC]

so how many rings have the spurs won since duncan left his prime? I'll wait. Spurs can't use the its just the regular season excuse. if we had some rings to show for it recently then maybe. but not this team. our top players are all an year older and some of you think this team isn't in trouble?:lol

Because all the talent wants to live in San Antonio. Go get'em, tiger.

[Cry Havoc]

the Spurs to defeat a top tier nba team is cliff jumping? Ok ill try to lower expectations for you then.

Being worried about this team in December is 100% cliff jumping, especially considering we have a top 3 record in the league. Everyone has looked mortal this year, same as any other year.

Pop doesn't give a shit about the regular season. He's a lot smarter about basketball than you are.

[Johnny RIngo]

One more time, he's not making MLE money... not even close...

Obviously but they did dip into the MLE to pay Ayres salary. Don't know what the fuck they were thinking. He's not even worth a minimum contract.

[ElNono]

the problem is Pop cares way too less than you guys do about games in December...

This is actually a great opportunity for him to actually coach and be heard...

[McGusto55]

so how many rings have the spurs won since duncan left his prime? I'll wait. Spurs can't use the its just the regular season excuse. if we had some rings to show for it recently then maybe. but not this team. our top players are all an year older and some of you think this team isn't in trouble?:lol
I agree as spurs fans were spoiled. .are stars are already old...

[boutons_deux]

Spurs 0-4 vs playoff teams

[Captivus]

http://media.giphy.com/media/CK8rE618xPSms/giphy.gif

[313]

Tiago showing how much we need himhim defensively.

Oh and cut Ayers. Serious.

[ManuTastic]

Indy stacked, yo.
But seriously, they have talent all over the floor. Definitely more than we do.

[Harry Callahan]

blame the spurs front office. too cheap to spend money. neal only wanted 4mill a year. now (the twilight years of duncan, parker, ginobili) is not the time to be fuckin cheap and pinch pennies. the spurs will be the leagues floormat for the next 10 years after duncan and pop retire, then they can be cheap all they want. instead of selling out money for some decent players, they try to find d-league players

Neal got $3.2MM from Milwaukee, not $4MM. Belinelli is getting $2.8MM for the same two years and is a much better all around player. IMO. This was a crap performance and we did not have one of our starters after the 1st quarter to provide interior D.

[KaiRMD1]

Ayres played 9 minutes and 18 seconds, if you asked me, the rest of the season, if he doesn't get released, he needs to have a "DNP" next to his name for the spurs to ever beat an elite team.

[Sean Cagney]

:lmao Spurs getting slapped by every elite team
:lmao fools gold last yearPERIOD

They went 7 and should have beat the Heat dumbshit. That is not fools gold. Say what u want so far this year but last year was a good run.

[McGusto55]

Indy stacked, yo.
But seriously, they have talent all over the floor. Definitely more than we do.

No they don't they have no bench....they play better defense

[Ice009]

Ayers fucking rules. This guy is fucking awesome. Tough, hard nosed player that can really play the game. Excels at dunks, layups and jumpshots.

[Cry Havoc]

Indy stacked, yo.
But seriously, they have talent all over the floor. Definitely more than we do.

Not more talented. Just younger. If Duncan Parker and manu were in their prime they'd smash.

Indy Miami is going to be a hell of an ECF this year.

[ElNono]

Obviously but they did dip into the MLE to pay Ayres salary.

Ofcourse, but there's a long way from that to "wasted the MLE on Jackie Butler 2.0"... dude is making $1.75m... the MLE is over $5m...

[Harry Callahan]

$1.8MM for a piece of crap in Ayers. The new assistant coach from Indiana is likely 0-1 on recommendations.

[Chomag]

Being worried about this team in December is 100% cliff jumping, especially considering we have a top 3 record in the league. Everyone has looked mortal this year, same as any other year.

Pop doesn't give a shit about the regular season. He's a lot smarter about basketball than you are.
Ok, thankfully there are plenty of shit teams this year to farm on then so no concerns as long as Spurs rack in the wins. Gotcha, as said ill try to lower expectations for you.

[TheGoldStandard]

Pop got his skins because of Tim Duncan. A lot of coaches could build a "system" when Tim Duncan is there

[RD2191]

benches are overrated tbh, rotations get cut in the playoffs and elite teams usually have starters that can log long minutes during the playoffs.

[Cry Havoc]

They went 7 and should have beat the Heat dumbshit. That is not fools gold. Say what u want so far this year but last year was a good run.

Thunder fans wouldn't know much about being close to a title, so go easy on em. :lol

[blkroadrunners]

Indy stacked, yo.
But seriously, they have talent all over the floor. Definitely more than we do.
It helps when Indy leaves their starters on the court, up 20 in the 4th qtr, yet the Spurs still have their 2nd and 3rd stringers. Granted they are a top 5 team in the league.

[ElNono]

Spurs 0-4 vs playoff teams

Incorrect... we beat Atlanta, Golden State and Denver, currently playoff teams

[ElNono]

Spurs 0-4 vs playoff teams

Incorrect... we beat Atlanta, Golden State and Denver, currently playoff teams

[Ice009]

Neal got $3.2MM from Milwaukee, not $4MM. Belinelli is getting $2.8MM for the same two years and is a much better all around player. IMO. This was a crap performance and we did not have one of our starters after the 1st quarter to provide interior D.

I still trust Neal's jumper over Belinelli's in a big game. Even though Belinelli is a better overall player, not sure if I trust his jumpshot when the defense tightens up on him.

[KaiRMD1]

They went 7 and should have beat the Heat dumbshit. That is not fools gold. Say what u want so far this year but last year was a good run.

Thunderup is not someone you should replay. He types in emoticons

[Ice009]

Neal got $3.2MM from Milwaukee, not $4MM. Belinelli is getting $2.8MM for the same two years and is a much better all around player. IMO. This was a crap performance and we did not have one of our starters after the 1st quarter to provide interior D.

I still trust Neal's jumper over Belinelli's in a big game. Even though Belinelli is a better overall player, not sure if I trust his jumpshot when the defense tightens up on him.

[McGusto55]

I think we just need a second scorer

[justinandimcool]

It's not cliffjumping to say the Spurs can't beat elite teams. It's fact right now. We lack the talent to sustain our offense for 48 minutes, at least now that Green and Leonard are worse versions from last year. Other teams have improved on defense and if they stop Tony, they will usually beat us because literally nobody can put the ball on the floor to score. We might get better in April, but the Spurs need to get better INDIVIDUALLY.

[cjw]

Being worried about this team in December is 100% cliff jumping, especially considering we have a top 3 record in the league. Everyone has looked mortal this year, same as any other year.

Pop doesn't give a shit about the regular season. He's a lot smarter about basketball than you are.

Thank you. At least we gave the Pacers guys some rest so they can go out and beat up OKC tomorrow night (fingers crossed).

[r0drig0lac]

Monta Ellis would have been perfect for Spurs .. especially in drought score

[RD2191]

It's not cliffjumping to say the Spurs can't beat elite teams. It's fact right now. We lack the talent to sustain our offense for 48 minutes, at least now that Green and Leonard are worse versions from last year. Other teams have improved on defense and if they stop Tony, they will usually beat us because literally nobody can put the ball on the floor to score. We might get better in April, but the Spurs need to get better INDIVIDUALLY.

[Juggity]

It's not cliffjumping to say the Spurs can't beat elite teams. It's fact right now. We lack the talent to sustain our offense for 48 minutes, at least now that Green and Leonard are worse versions from last year. Other teams have improved on defense and if they stop Tony, they will usually beat us. We might get better in April.

Nah, it's definitely cliffjumping. December cliffjumping.

[jeebus]

surprise surprise, Baynes plays better defense than Pfag

[Cry Havoc]

Ok, thankfully there are plenty of shit teams this year to farm on then so no concerns as long as Spurs rack in the wins. Gotcha, as said ill try to lower expectations for you.

This just in: Spurs fans are bitching about their high expectations when the team is on pace to win close to 60 games. :lol

Once again incompetent fans outing themselves by putting stock in a regular season coached by Popovich. :lmao

[ElNono]

Spurs are fine... the only question is how long is Tiago gonna take with that calf...

[Harry Callahan]

It's not cliffjumping to say the Spurs can't beat elite teams. It's fact right now. We lack the talent to sustain our offense for 48 minutes, at least now that Green and Leonard are worse versions from last year. Other teams have improved on defense and if they stop Tony, they will usually beat us because literally nobody can put the ball on the floor to score. We might get better in April, but the Spurs need to get better INDIVIDUALLY.

How about getting better before April. This was a total beatdown. This hasn't happened often at home, but they were awful tonight.

[RD2191]

Spurs fans going the route of dallas cowboys fans, tbh, living off of old championships.

[KaiRMD1]

I guess time will tell

[Darius Bieber]

Incorrect... we beat Atlanta, Golden State and Denver, currently playoff teams

- Had to beat a 9-9 Atlanta Hawk team on a Duncan buzzer beater. (Took a 20 and 20 game from Duncan to win)
- Golden State didn't have Curry, and they still almost beat the Spurs. (Spurs only won by 2, imagine the game with Curry...)

[RD2191]

putting up with mediocre play just because they've won before

[Ice009]

Monta Ellis would have been perfect for Spurs .. especially in drought score

Yep. I was very interested in Monte. If he was willing to take a concession to play for us, I was interested in him for these kinds of situations. I would have hoped that the Spurs could straighten out the rest of his game. Spurs just keep signing shitty system players that need the table set for them. You need at least two guys that can get their own consistently. Can rely on ball movement and system play against the elite teams. When your offense breaks down, you're going to need to be able to score for yourself sometimes.

[ElNono]

11pt game... yawn

[ace3g]

Bonner, lol

[Chomag]

This just in: Spurs fans are bitching about their high expectations when the team is on pace to win close to 60 games. :lol

Once again incompetent fans outing themselves by putting stock in a regular season coached by Popovich. :lmao

Agree or disagree, is there a reason why you are disrespectful?

[SanDiegoSpursFan]

Spurs doing their best to reduce the damage done to their differential

[TXstbobcat]

Bonner still competing

[Cry Havoc]

putting up with mediocre play just because they've won before

I'm just going to go ahead and point out that you were one of the people who said we wouldn't make it out of the first or second round of the playoffs last year and guaranteed a loss in virtually every match up or when ANY team took a 5 point lead on us.

Your takes are worth literally nothing.

[timtonymanu]

Green is a streaky player. We all know this. He'll have stretches of games where he's a complete scrub. He was coming off a hot stretch right before this one.

Leonard is a guy who will show up in big moments. G7 of the Finals showed that. I'm not worried about him.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

SINGLE DIGITS?

[RD2191]

I'm just going to go ahead and point out that you were one of the people who said we wouldn't make it out of the first or second round of the playoffs last year and guaranteed a loss in virtually every match up or when ANY team took a 5 point lead on us.

Your takes are worth literally nothing.
did the spurs win the title?

[blkroadrunners]

Mills!!

[TXstbobcat]

Mills333.

[ace3g]

needed that board...

[PingPong]

LOL... Scrubs effort.

[Juggity]

damn, why didn't they hustle like this 20 minutes ago?

[tim_duncan_fan]

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I is sad now.

[Darius Bieber]

Too little, too late. Needed this effort in the 2nd quarter, not with a minute left....

[Libri]

season high for Pacers in pts

[Chomag]

Spurs scrubs doing the fighting is nice to see.

[BatManu20]

Matt Bonner instilling confidence in Pop to give him more minutes by making shot in garbage time

[ElNono]

damn, that would've been a huge 3 :lol

[blkroadrunners]

That 3 would have been BIG

[ace3g]

damn, lol

[Juggity]

good effort by patty there, I like that.

[Cry Havoc]

Agree or disagree, is there a reason why you are disrespectful?

Is there a reason why every time this team drops a game you have to lower your expectations? What area of the country do you live in where any of your favorite sports teams run the table every year?

I'm blatantly disrespectful of people cliff jumping in December. You think we're done? Fine. Leave. Don't post here. It's stupid to constantly read in every game thread how this team is worthless, should be blown up, can't win shit. We were 20 seconds from a TITLE last year. So STFU and learn some basketball before you bring in the weak ass "we're done" talk. It's old, it doesn't make you edgy or cool to hate on your own team, and it clogs up game threads for REAL FANS who know how to take a loss like a man and not bail on their team every time we have an off night.

[timtonymanu]

Really could have used this from these guys when it mattered.

[weeks]

belli airballs it.

[Chomag]

Is there a reason why every time this team drops a game you have to lower your expectations? What area of the country do you live in where any of your favorite sports teams run the table every year?

I'm blatantly disrespectful of people cliff jumping in December. You think we're done? Fine. Leave. Don't post here. It's stupid to constantly read in every game thread how this team is worthless, should be blown up, can't win shit. We were 20 seconds from a TITLE last year. So STFU and learn some basketball before you bring in the weak ass "we're done" talk. It's old, it doesn't make you edgy or cool to hate on your own team, and it clogs up game threads for REAL FANS who know how to take a loss like a man and not bail on their team every time we have an off night.

Are we really making this "I'm a better fan then you are" debate?

[Cry Havoc]

did the spurs win the title?

:lmao

Did we lose in the first round to the Lakers like you said we were going to? Because I never said we'd win a title, I just said the team had a good chance to.

Does it hurt to know you're so consistently wrong about everything NBA related?

[weeks]

so, maybe bellinelli really -is- the replacement for manu ginobili.

[SanDiegoSpursFan]

MILLS WHYYYY.... the point differential... noooooooooooooooooo

[RD2191]

Is there a reason why every time this team drops a game you have to lower your expectations? What area of the country do you live in where any of your favorite sports teams run the table every year?

I'm blatantly disrespectful of people cliff jumping in December. You think we're done? Fine. Leave. Don't post here. It's stupid to constantly read in every game thread how this team is worthless, should be blown up, can't win shit. We were 20 seconds from a TITLE last year. So STFU and learn some basketball before you bring in the weak ass "we're done" talk. It's old, it doesn't make you edgy or cool to hate on your own team, and it clogs up game threads for REAL FANS who know how to take a loss like a man and not bail on their team every time we have an off night.
funny how those off night come against elite teams:lmao

[still.focused]

I think we just need a second scorer

And a big that plays like a big

[Raven]

meh...

[Juggity]

hmm. tough game. scrubs delivering in garbage time makes me feel better somehow.

[mclinejr]

I'm just going to go ahead and point out that you were one of the people who said we wouldn't make it out of the first or second round of the playoffs last year and guaranteed a loss in virtually every match up or when ANY team took a 5 point lead on us.

Your takes are worth literally nothing.

I don't even read his posts. Every time I see the motorcycle, I scroll on past.

[DieHardSpursFan1537]

The way some people talk about him they'd rather have RJ or Finley instead.
RJ is about as useless as a sack of potatoes. He is now on the Utah Jazz, the worst team in the NBA this year

[RD2191]

:lmao

Did we lose in the first round to the Lakers like you said we were going to? Because I never said we'd win a title, I just said the team had a good chance to.

Does it hurt to know you're so consistently wrong about everything NBA related?
not really, to me it doesn't matter if they lose in the 1st round or the finals. if they didn't ring then in my eyes it was a wasted season.

[DieHardSpursFan1537]

That was a rough game, but considering we hadn't played in 5 days, it was understandable. A little rusty it appeared.

[cjw]

funny how those off night come against elite teams:lmao

As opposed to getting beaten by teams we should blow out (like Miami the other night)?

[Harry Callahan]

putting up with mediocre play just because they've won before

Fans of the Spurs do not put up with mediocre play in here for the most part. FWIW they haven't been mediocre since 1996. The Cowboys have been mediocre/terrible since 1996. A lot of fans don't "put up with" Jerry's long term poor management. I refuse to give the Cowboys money for either tickets or merch.

I will go to a Spurs game in SA at least once a year (a long trip for me and family) because they do things the right way for the most part. They have earned that support over the last 17 years.

Going seven games in the NBA finals is a season where the team was a lot better than mediocre.

[Cry Havoc]

Are we really making this "I'm a better fan then you are" debate?

Not at all. This isn't a debate. This is bullshit. This is about you getting a grip and realizing that tonight means absolutely NOTHING as far as our title chances go.

http://espn.go.com/nba/recap?id=400278643

http://espn.go.com/nba/recap?id=400278674

http://espn.go.com/nba/recap?id=400278196

Holy shit, look at that, we got beat last year too. We didn't go 82-0! Amazing. :lol You want me to post some games where we got the shit kicked out of us in title years too, since apparently you weren't watching back then and forgot that it happens, even to the 72 win Bulls it happens?

[Darius Bieber]

not really, to me it doesn't matter if they lose in the 1st round or the finals. if they didn't ring then in my eyes it was a wasted season.

Hmm I usually agree with some of your posts, but I mean you can't expect every team in the NBA to win a championship. It shouldn't be a wasted season, this is sports for entertainment. It's not like them winning makes our lives better.

[Johnny RIngo]

Ofcourse, but there's a long way from that to "wasted the MLE on Jackie Butler 2.0"... dude is making $1.75m... the MLE is over $5m...

Signing Ayres so early with a part of the MLE killed any flexibility the front office had in free agency. Before coming to SA, Ayres played less than a hundred games...averaging around 8 min/game. What the fuck did he do to deserve anything above the minimum? I'm just surprised that SA, a front office that's usually conservative with their budget, overpaid so much for someone with little to no talent.

[Cry Havoc]

not really, to me it doesn't matter if they lose in the 1st round or the finals. if they didn't ring then in my eyes it was a wasted season.

And that's why you're a shitty excuse for a fan and the rest of Spurstalk should put you on ignore.

[DieHardSpursFan1537]

Not at all. This isn't a debate. This is bullshit. This is about you getting a grip and realizing that tonight means absolutely NOTHING as far as our title chances go.

http://espn.go.com/nba/recap?id=400278643

http://espn.go.com/nba/recap?id=400278674

http://espn.go.com/nba/recap?id=400278196

Holy shit, look at that, we got beat last year too. We didn't go 82-0! Amazing. :lol
Glad to see some people are using common sense

[Harry Callahan]

not really, to me it doesn't matter if they lose in the 1st round or the finals. if they didn't ring then in my eyes it was a wasted season.

Why even bother following the team then in December dude. Just start following the Spurs on June 4th every year. Some "fan".

[weeks]

at the end of the day, our guys are competitors.
they want to win, and they want to beat the good teams.

any real spurs fan should hate losing to legit teams, i know i'm tired of it

[LakerHater]

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[Cry Havoc]

Why even bother following the team then in December dude. Just start following the Spurs on June 4th every year. Some "fan".

He's gotta come in here with his edgy self-loathing of his own team so he can say, "GOTCHA" at the end of the year if they lose to boost his own ego, and pretend to be a real fan if they win.

[RD2191]

Why even bother following the team then in December dude. Just start following the Spurs on June 4th every year. Some "fan".
why even bother if these games don't matter? goes both ways here. just because i expect better from the spurs even in the regular season makes me less of a fan? oh its just december right? well then why watch?

[TXstbobcat]

We are still the 2nd seed in a tough western conference with a 15-4 record. This loss isn't the end of the world.

[BatManu20]

*knocks on wood*

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Should've knocked harder.

[Perry Mason]

- Had to beat a 9-9 Atlanta Hawk team on a Duncan buzzer beater. (Took a 20 and 20 game from Duncan to win)
- Golden State didn't have Curry, and they still almost beat the Spurs. (Spurs only won by 2, imagine the game with Curry...)

Im tired of hearing this nonsense. Douglas played as well as Curry. Spurs would still have won. Hell, Curry may have had a bad game, with the Spurs winning by more.

It is not accurate to say Spurs cannot beat elite teams. It is accurate to say that they struggle with them, as we cannot sustain the defensive and offensive execution at the required high level.

As for tonight, Spurs don't lose by nearly as much if Tiago does not go down. We needed his defense.

[Mugen]

Can't even imagine what PG would average if he got those Durant calls tbh. Kid's a monster.

[BatManu20]

We are still the 2nd seed in a tough western conference with a 15-4 record. This loss isn't the end of the world.

Not really about that as much as it is us measuring ourselves against one of the top teams in the league.

[Cry Havoc]

why even bother if these games don't matter? goes both ways here. just because i expect better from the spurs even in the regular season makes me less of a fan? oh its just december right? well then why watch?

Because it's enjoyable? Because there are probably less than 250 regular season games left of having the PRIVILEGE of watching one of the greatest players of all-time pick up a basketball and kick ass on the court? Because you support your team when things aren't going their way as well as when they are smashing like the Pacers are right now? Because you have some loyalty and know that it's a long process to become a better team? Because we have a super damn likable group of players who are fun as hell to watch most of the time?

You're seriously pathetic. You only want to watch the team when they're on top of the world and drubbing other squads by 30. You don't stay for the enjoyment of the sport, just the relish of having a loaded team or the ability to hate on them when they're down. You're the bitch at the YMCA who taunts the group of 5 undersized players when they go on the court and then you scream at your team for being busters when that same group buries you 15 to 3.

[timtonymanu]

George is the 2nd best player in the league, tbh.

Durant loses points for being a beta and relying so much on FT's. Not surprising the real top 2 teams in the NBA have the top 2 players in the league.

[RD2191]

:wakeup

[elmanutres]

i still like the effort at the late 4th though. Fucking patty just had to ruin the momentum :bang

[TheGoldStandard]

We don't match up well with Portland or OKC and we don't match up with the Pacers

[Cry Havoc]

George is the 2nd best player in the league, tbh.

I think Aldridge might have something to say about that as far as this season goes, tbh.

[RD2191]

Because it's enjoyable? Because there are probably less than 250 regular season games left of having the PRIVILEGE of watching one of the greatest players of all-time pick up a basketball and kick ass on the court? Because you support your team when things aren't going their way as well as when they are smashing like the Pacers are right now? Because you have some loyalty and know that it's a long process to become a better team? Because we have a super damn likable group of players who are fun as hell to watch most of the time?

You're seriously pathetic. You only want to watch the team when they're on top of the world and drubbing other teams by 30. You don't stay for the enjoyment of the sport, just the relish of having a loaded team or the ability to hate on them when they're down.
not really, i always stick around even if they're getting shit on. what am i saying that is so wrong? just because i think the spurs are finished and need to rebuild doesn't mean im not a fan

[Arcadian]

Hey, at least we won the first quarter.

[Chomag]

Not at all. This isn't a debate. This is bullshit. This is about you getting a grip and realizing that tonight means absolutely NOTHING as far as our title chances go.

http://espn.go.com/nba/recap?id=400278643

http://espn.go.com/nba/recap?id=400278674

http://espn.go.com/nba/recap?id=400278196

Holy shit, look at that, we got beat last year too. We didn't go 82-0! Amazing. :lol

Wait, your the one using the wining record as no cause for concern. The amount of regular seasons wins does not tell the whole picture. Yes I can be disappointed in them , but at the end of the night I still love the Spurs just as much as when they were wining a title. I don't know if your a father but it's kind of like parenting. When my son comes home with a bad grade I am disappointed because I know he can do better, but I still love him to death.

[r0drig0lac]

George is the 2nd best player in the league, tbh.

Durant loses points for being a beta and relying so much on FT's. Not surprising the real top 2 teams in the NBA have the top 2 players in the league.
Durant is still the second best ... and it's not even close

[Cry Havoc]

just because i think the spurs are finished and need to rebuild doesn't mean im not a fan

You said the same thing last year. Verbatim. All the time. The Spurs ended up 20 seconds from a title.

You're a shit fan with no faith and no ability to enjoy the games. You just have to spew bile over every game thread that isn't a blowout in our favor and talk about how done the Spurs are.

It just shows that you have absolutely zero knowledge of basketball. Zero. None. You're a popcorn fan who wants to be entertained, rather than appreciating the sport for what it is.

[BatManu20]

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[RD2191]

You said the same thing last year. Verbatim. All the time. The Spurs ended up 20 seconds from a title.

You're a shit fan with no faith and no ability to enjoy the games. You just have to spew bile over every game thread that isn't a blowout in our favor and talk about how done the Spurs are.

It just shows that you have absolutely zero knowledge of basketball. Zero. None. You're a popcorn fan who wants to be entertained, rather than appreciating the sport for what it is.
:corn:

[timtonymanu]

not really, to me it doesn't matter if they lose in the 1st round or the finals. if they didn't ring then in my eyes it was a wasted season.

sup rob.

you need to change your razor, tbh. Wearing this one out already. :lol

[BatManu20]

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[Chomag]

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The aggressive team usually gets more of the calls

[RD2191]

Cry Havoc apparently loves getting blown out. What a true Spurs Fan:cry

[Cry Havoc]

When my son comes home with a bad grade I am disappointed because I know he can do better, but I still love him to death.

To extend your analogy, do you see him get a D+ in science in ONE quarter or ONE paper and then immediately throw his chemistry sets and microscopes and telescopes out the window and tell him to stop dreaming about a career in any of the sciences? Because clearly one bad day is indicative of his overall potential as a person, right? Right? Because that's exactly what you're saying here. Might as well blow the team up because Portland and Indiana beat them in December.

[ElNono]

The aggressive team usually gets more of the calls

Or the Thunder, tbh

[ElNono]

Don't mess with robdiaz... last warning

[Chomag]

To extend your analogy, do you see him get a D+ in science in ONE quarter or ONE paper and then immediately throw his chemistry sets and microscopes and telescopes out the window and tell him to stop dreaming about a career in any of the sciences? Because clearly one bad day is indicative of his overall potential as a person, right? Right? Because that's exactly what you're saying here. Might as well blow the team up because Portland and Indiana beat them in December.
When did I ever say that? lol

[Cry Havoc]

Cry Havoc apparently loves getting blown out. What a true Spurs Fan:cry

And now you've resorted to popcorn gifs and putting words in my mouth because you can't refute anything I'm saying. The only difference is, you actually enjoy talking shit about your "favorite team".

[Chomag]

Or the Thunder, tbh

True that lol

[RD2191]

And now you've resorted to popcorn gifs and putting words in my mouth because you can't refute anything I'm saying. The only difference is, you actually enjoy talking shit about your "favorite team".
when did i talk shit? what have i said that isn't true? have the spurs beat an elite team this season? no.

[Cry Havoc]

When did I ever say that? lol

You're "lowering expectations" based on two games. In December. How is that not the same thing?

[Chomag]

You're "lowering expectations" based on two games. In December. How is that not the same thing?
How the hell is it?

[PingPong]

No other team would keep Danny Green as their starter tbh.

[Mikeanaro]

Lol, danny green should be playing bench in europe

[Chomag]

You're "lowering expectations" based on two games. In December. How is that not the same thing?
I actually said that in kind of agreeing with you that maybe it was me, where I have my expectations to high.

[Cry Havoc]

when did i talk shit? what have i said that isn't true? have the spurs beat an elite team this season? no.


Another loss to an elite team. Spurs are fool's gold.


ugh no, the spurs defense is officially overrated and only good against scrub teams


as is, the spurs just aren't an elite team anymore


this team is finished tbh


not buying it tbh, spurs won't even sniff the wcf without home court


we suck, tbh. inflated record by beatng scrub teams, tbh.

Gee, I dunno where I would have gotten the idea that you're talking shit. :wakeup

[Cry Havoc]

I actually said that in kind of agreeing with you that maybe it was me, where I have my expectations to high.

Why are you setting expectations based on completely meaningless regular season games?

Hey, remember last year in that ultra important game against Miami where Pop sat the starters? That was worth as much as this game was tonight.

[RD2191]

Gee, I dunno where I would have gotten the idea that you're talking shit. :wakeup
what from there isn't true?

[r0drig0lac]

The aggressive team usually gets more of the calls
this...pure and simple athleticism

[Harry Callahan]

not really, i always stick around even if they're getting shit on. what am i saying that is so wrong? just because i think the spurs are finished and need to rebuild doesn't mean im not a fan

In your eyes, the 2012-2013 season was a waste (your words - not mine). I assume that means you wasted your time watching them because they came up short IN THE FINALS. Guess what pal, this organization has been the best playing/best managed pro team for the last 17 years (since Tim Duncan came here). That's not just the NBA, that is the NFL, NBA, MLB, NHL - all of them.......

I enjoyed watching the Spurs overachieve and almost win a championship last year. I did not waste my time following them. 28 or 29 NBA teams would trade places with the Spurs in a New York minute. It sounds like you are jumping ship and the season is barely underway and they are 2nd in the Western Conference. Will you show up when the Spurs are a truly bad team in 2 or 3 years- You probably aren't even old enough to remember a truly BAD Spurs team. There have frankly been very few bad teams in SA. I still go and watch them play when they win 20 games like in 1996.

You would make a good Laker or Heat fan frankly.

You, as a "Fan" should appreciate what we have here a little more than you do.

[Cry Havoc]

what from there isn't true?

That wasn't the question, for starters. You asked where you were talking shit. I pointed it out. Deal with it.

[RD2191]

Why are you setting expectations based on completely meaningless regular season games?

Hey, remember last year in that ultra important game against Miami where Pop sat the starters? That was worth as much as this game was tonight.
I think you're missing the point. This game was seen as a measuring stick to see if the Spurs could still hang with an elite team. As of now, the Spurs have proven that they can't. Also losing to top tier teams exposes your teams flaws, so I for one think this game did mean something.

[Chomag]

Why are you setting expectations based on completely meaningless regular season games?

Hey, remember last year in that ultra important game against Miami where Pop sat the starters? That was worth as much as this game was tonight.
I don't know about that but It was worth the middle finger by Pop to stern :lol

[Cry Havoc]

I think you're missing the point. This game was seen as a measuring stick to see if the Spurs could still hang with an elite team. As of now, the Spurs have proven that they can't. Also losing to top tier teams exposes your teams flaws, so I for one think this game did mean something.

Hey! Remember when you said our team would never make it out of the second round of the playoffs last year?

Your "measuring sticks" are hilarious.

[Cry Havoc]

I don't know about that but It was worth the middle finger by Pop to stern :lol

So you see my point. If Pop is willing to set a regular season game on fire, why would you think he's doing anything besides using tonight as a learning tool? He doesn't care what the final score is, really. We're 15-4 definitely going to be at least a top 3 seed in the West barring injury. Why play your cards now when you don't have to?

[RD2191]

Hey! Remember when you said our team would never make it out of the second round of the playoffs last year?

Your "measuring sticks" are hilarious. Manu heroics tbh

[Cry Havoc]

That said, gotta hand it to Indy. They've done a hell of a job emulating our system to bring in solid players who know their role.

Spurs Pacers would be a ridiculously awesome Finals, if for no other reason than for watching David Stern hang himself by game 3.