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Michael Jordan.
12-10-2013, 02:28 PM
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Phillip
12-10-2013, 02:34 PM
yay

Kermit
12-10-2013, 02:37 PM
I know it's Chip Brown, and he's a total fucking douchebag, but I don't care anymore.

I believe!!!!

http://i.imgur.com/CB3ch.gif

Michael Jordan.
12-10-2013, 02:41 PM
SI picked up on it now. Should have an answer from Saban soon.

Bill_Brasky
12-10-2013, 02:48 PM
http://cdn0.sbnation.com/assets/3378681/mack-shower.gif

Michael Jordan.
12-10-2013, 02:48 PM
http://cdn0.sbnation.com/assets/3378681/mack-shower.gif
:lmao

Michael Jordan.
12-10-2013, 02:50 PM
:lol Bama fans saying Saban wouldn't lie to the recruits and that he is a man of integrity :rollin

TFloss32
12-10-2013, 03:00 PM
:lol Bama fans saying Saban wouldn't lie to the recruits and that he is a man of integrity :rollin

They conveniently forget the circumstances in which he took the Alabama job.

benefactor
12-10-2013, 03:13 PM
Texas reportedly denying it.
https://mobile.twitter.com/SportsCenter/status/410497659758477312

rkell87
12-10-2013, 03:14 PM
THIS JUST IN: Texas denies report that Mack Brown will step down as Longhorns coach. Board of Regents to meet Thursday. (via @schadjoe (https://twitter.com/schadjoe))

rkell87
12-10-2013, 03:19 PM
mack denies it too

http://texas.247sports.com/Article/Mack-Brown-Responds-165559

Hoops Czar
12-10-2013, 03:22 PM
mack denies it too

http://texas.247sports.com/Article/Mack-Brown-Responds-165559
Denying it until its official. Just posturing.

Phillip
12-10-2013, 03:25 PM
Denying it until its official. Just posturing.

This.

There are too many details that are being reported even by major news outlets for this to not have any truth to it. It's even on Yahoo Sports front page. He's gone.

benefactor
12-10-2013, 03:36 PM
Yeah...I agree that it's probably more of a timeline thing. They want to do it on their own terms.

Kermit
12-10-2013, 03:49 PM
They denied Deloss was leaving too. Can't control the message if you let the Chip Brown's of the world leak your news for you.

sahoopster
12-10-2013, 03:51 PM
I know it's Chip Brown, and he's a total fucking douchebag, but I don't care anymore.

I believe!!!!

http://i.imgur.com/CB3ch.gif

Lmmfao...well hell, if you believe it must be true.

Clipper Nation
12-10-2013, 04:13 PM
:lmao Turdfaggot
:lmao Bama losing Saban
:lmao Saban going to steal all of Aggy's recruits and bring them to Austin

Michael Jordan.
12-10-2013, 04:21 PM
:lmao Turdfaggot
:lmao Bama losing Saban
:lmao Saban going to steal all of Aggy's recruits and bring them to Austin
shit could only happen to Aggy

Michael Jordan.
12-10-2013, 04:23 PM
As we all are aware of Paul Bryant Jr's was in Austin yesterday. On that plane there were three female passengers. Terry Saban was one of the three females.
It also was used when Bama recruited Saban and recently for hunting trips to Stuttgart,AR with Saban.


The second plane is used my the Crimson Tide Foundation.


The third plane is used by the coaches for recruiting purpose and this the plane Nick was flying on yesterday.

http://www.hornsports.com/forums/burnt-orange-board-bob-57/alabama-planes-3716/

Michael Jordan.
12-10-2013, 04:26 PM
410517596312588289

Boom!

TFloss32
12-10-2013, 04:38 PM
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benefactor
12-10-2013, 05:17 PM
:lol

Michael Jordan.
12-10-2013, 05:22 PM
http://usatthebiglead.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/nick-saban-texas.jpg?w=640

The Gemini Method
12-10-2013, 05:28 PM
Those are pretty funny pics...

Sisk
12-10-2013, 05:30 PM
Going to be funny when Todd Graham is announced as the next coach.

Pelicans78
12-10-2013, 05:34 PM
:lol Bama fans saying Saban wouldn't lie to the recruits and that he is a man of integrity :rollin

:lmao

The Gemini Method
12-10-2013, 05:35 PM
Going to be funny when Todd Graham is announced as the next coach.

Not a bad hire--just not Saban and terrible against Stanford, which, will not be a problem for the Longhorns. I don't see Saban leaving Tuscaloosa for Austin. But who knows.

Pelicans78
12-10-2013, 05:36 PM
Going to be funny when Todd Graham is announced as the next coach.

I think he's a good coach, but that would be a letdown for UT fans.

Michael Jordan.
12-10-2013, 05:36 PM
Going to be funny when Todd Graham is announced as the next coach.
Gonna be funny when Saban steals all your recruits.

Michael Jordan.
12-10-2013, 05:37 PM
I think he's a good coach, but that would be a letdown for UT fans.
Yeah. It'll be Saban. And if not him, then Harbaugh.

Pelicans78
12-10-2013, 05:37 PM
Underrated candidate is James Franklin at Vandy. He's won 8-9 games the last two seasons and is recruiting well at a school like Vandy. He's young as well.

Kermit
12-10-2013, 05:38 PM
Going to be funny when Todd Graham is announced as the next coach.

No it won't be.

Pelicans78
12-10-2013, 05:39 PM
Yeah. It'll be Saban. And if not him, then Harbaugh.

You think Harbaugh would leave the NFL for a college job even though it is a top 5 job?

Michael Jordan.
12-10-2013, 05:40 PM
You think Harbaugh would leave the NFL for a college job even though it is a top 5 job?
John Harbaugh, of the Ravens is reportedly really interested in the job. Not Jim, my mistake.

The Gemini Method
12-10-2013, 05:40 PM
John Harbaugggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhh hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Sisk
12-10-2013, 05:51 PM
Yeah. It'll be Saban. And if not him, then Harbaugh.

LOL

Michael Jordan.
12-10-2013, 05:53 PM
LOL
You forgot Aggy.

Clipper Nation
12-10-2013, 05:53 PM
:lol Aggy scurred right now

Sisk
12-10-2013, 05:53 PM
I will say this: Texas' chances at Saban are much better than Harbaugh. But, neither one will be the coach at Texas.

Sisk
12-10-2013, 05:54 PM
I also don't think Graham would be a bad hire.

Michael Jordan.
12-10-2013, 05:55 PM
I will say this: Texas' chances at Saban are much better than Harbaugh. But, neither one will be the coach at Texas.
Scurred.

Sisk
12-10-2013, 05:57 PM
Scurred.

I just hope you're trolling and aren't this delusional. Surprised you haven't said anything about Gruden yet.

Clipper Nation
12-10-2013, 05:57 PM
I will say this: Texas' chances at Saban are much better than Harbaugh. But, neither one will be the coach at Texas.

The Aggy Fear :lol

Michael Jordan.
12-10-2013, 06:03 PM
If Aggy thinks we're so delusional, then he should ask himself why Texas would force Mack out right before the banquet without having someone to replace him right away?

Clipper Nation
12-10-2013, 06:04 PM
"Delusional" is Aggy thinking they were going to win a national title this year with Johnny Inbred and det defense, tbh :lol

Michael Jordan.
12-10-2013, 06:04 PM
"Delusional" is Aggy thinking they were going to win a national title this year with Johnny Inbred and det defense, tbh :lol
:lol

DMX7
12-10-2013, 06:06 PM
"Delusional" is Aggy thinking they were going to win a national title this year with Johnny Inbred and det defense, tbh :lol

:lmao

Sisk
12-10-2013, 06:07 PM
If Aggy thinks we're so delusional, then he should ask himself why Texas would force Mack out right before the banquet without having someone to replace him right away?

Who said anything about not having a replacement?

DMX7
12-10-2013, 06:23 PM
If we don't get Saban, I have a feeling people are going to be quite disappointed in the hire (if Mack really does "step down").

td4mvp2k
12-10-2013, 06:35 PM
:lol mack to stay at UT n fuk saban tbh

DMX7
12-10-2013, 06:37 PM
I think it's tradition in college football to give Lane Kiffin the first interview for any major head coaching position that opens up.

symple19
12-10-2013, 06:40 PM
Wait till Tuesday! Just wait till Tuesday! It's gonna happen! :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao

td4mvp2k
12-10-2013, 06:42 PM
Harbough would be some1 id like tho

Sisk
12-10-2013, 06:46 PM
Wait till Tuesday! Just wait till Tuesday! It's gonna happen! :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao

:lol

Michael Jordan.
12-10-2013, 06:47 PM
Lots of ass cheeks clenching up.

Bill_Brasky
12-10-2013, 06:50 PM
saban as hc :hat
briles as oc :hat
belichick as dc :hat

do it, Mitch. uhhhhhh, i mean steve.

Michael Jordan.
12-10-2013, 06:52 PM
Who said anything about not having a replacement?

Who else would they force Mack out for right now?

Sisk
12-10-2013, 07:02 PM
Who else would they force Mack out for right now?

As if he's worth a damn right now?

Michael Jordan.
12-10-2013, 07:06 PM
As if he's worth a damn right now?

Not my question. Why would they pay him to go away right not instead of after the bowl game? Who else would they do that for except Saban?

Clipper Nation
12-10-2013, 07:08 PM
Aggy knows all that "relevance" and those "ratings" they've been hyping up are disappearing soon, so they're desperate for Saban not to go coach for daddeh :lol

Clipper Nation
12-10-2013, 07:15 PM
:lol Tbh, I'd love to hear Aggy's explanation for why an extension has been reportedly sitting unsigned on Saban's desk since Friday.... you'd think he'd have signed it by now if he was committed to Bama....

Michael Jordan.
12-10-2013, 07:17 PM
:lol Tbh, I'd love to hear Aggy's explanation for why an extension has been reportedly sitting unsigned on Saban's desk since Friday.... you'd think he'd have signed it by now if he was committed to Bama....
Son, the extension has been sitting on his desk for about a month now. I'd be nervous too if I was Aggy :lol

Michael Jordan.
12-10-2013, 07:18 PM
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symple19
12-10-2013, 07:28 PM
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December 11th?

Michael Jordan.
12-10-2013, 07:29 PM
Nervous?

symple19
12-10-2013, 07:33 PM
Nervous?

:lol why would I be nervous? I saw the tweets, just wondering why it said the 11th...

How's that insider information working out for ya, btw?

Michael Jordan.
12-10-2013, 07:36 PM
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Michael Jordan.
12-10-2013, 07:37 PM
:lol why would I be nervous? I saw the tweets, just wondering why it said the 11th...

How's that insider information working out for ya, btw?
Workin out super

Michael Jordan.
12-10-2013, 07:53 PM
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symple19
12-10-2013, 07:55 PM
:lol They're all coming out of the woodwork

Michael Jordan.
12-10-2013, 07:57 PM
:lol Nervous as fuck

DMX7
12-10-2013, 08:00 PM
The story is everywhere and only one source is reporting it.

symple19
12-10-2013, 08:03 PM
:lmao

Over at the TideSports.com message board there are 2 threads at the top in regards to Malzahn and Texas :lmao :lmao :lmao

Michael Jordan.
12-10-2013, 08:06 PM
The story is everywhere and only one source is reporting it.

Guy is a beat writer for the Forth Worth Star Telegram

benefactor
12-10-2013, 08:06 PM
Regardless if Saban happens or not, I think it's pretty clear that Mack is gone before the week is out. Too many big outlets picked it up for it to go any other way.

Michael Jordan.
12-10-2013, 08:08 PM
Regardless if Saban happens or not, I think it's pretty clear that Mack is gone before the week is out. Too many big outlets picked it up for it to go any other way.

Yup. That is the biggest win so far.

crc21209
12-10-2013, 08:09 PM
Bring on Saban...:tu

symple19
12-10-2013, 08:10 PM
Here's what AL.com has to say :lol http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2013/12/paul_finebaum_nick_saban_has_a.html


With conflicting reports circulating on Tuesday regarding the news that Texas head coach Mack Brown will step down, the nation's attention has quickly turned to Alabama where Nick Saban has been widely speculated to be Texas' top candidate in the event of Brown's departure.
ESPN Radio host Paul Finebaum reported on his show on Tuesday that while Brown's immediate future will be the immediate focus on the national media, there could be news in the near future on Saban and his future with Alabama.
"You're also going to hear a lot more about Nick Saban because he has a contract on his desk that's been there since Friday - and today is Tuesday," he said. Finebaum did not cite a source for the information.
Shortly after Finebaum made his comments, NFL.com senior analyst Gil Brandt reported details of a potential new deal between Saban and Alabama.

Just told by source Nick Saban in contract negotiations w #Alabama (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Alabama&src=hash) for extension in $7M/year range.
-- Gil Brandt (@Gil_Brandt) December 10, 2013 (https://twitter.com/Gil_Brandt/statuses/410545290840526849)
That's all! RT@Gil_Brandt (https://twitter.com/Gil_Brandt): Just told by source Nick Saban in contract negotiations w #Alabama (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Alabama&src=hash) for extension in $7M/year range.
-- Paul Finebaum (@finebaum) December 10, 2013 (https://twitter.com/finebaum/statuses/410547491764174850)Finebaum told AL.com on Friday (http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2013/12/paul_finebaum_says_alabama_fan.html) that he believed Alabama was on the verge of announcing a new deal with Saban.
"It's starting to come out today that Saban is staying at Alabama and will have a new deal so they'll focus on that," Finebaum said when asked about how Alabama fans were responding to the Tide's disappointing Iron Bowl loss.

Michael Jordan.
12-10-2013, 08:11 PM
Here's what AL.com has to say :lol http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2013/12/paul_finebaum_nick_saban_has_a.html

No ine cares. Bama is spewing smoke to make evryone think they tried to keep him.

symple19
12-10-2013, 08:12 PM
I think it's safe to say that ole' Saban has started a bidding war

He's going to come out of this much, much wealthier, regardless of where he ends up :greedy

Michael Jordan.
12-10-2013, 08:13 PM
I think it's safe to say that ole' Saban has started a bidding war

He's going to come out of this much, much wealthier, regardless of where he ends up :greedy

There is no war. Texas can pay much more than bama.

symple19
12-10-2013, 08:16 PM
There is no war. Texas can pay much more than bama.

How so?

Michael Jordan.
12-10-2013, 08:18 PM
How so?
Off the books. Well I guess not Texas directly, but the big money donors. The numbers are bigggg.

symple19
12-10-2013, 08:26 PM
Off the books. Well I guess not Texas directly, but the big money donors. The numbers are bigggg.

:lol Sounds like a mafia deal or something :lol

How about Bama's big money donors? Don't know much about their finances. Maybe you could enlighten me?

Michael Jordan.
12-10-2013, 08:26 PM
:lol Sounds like a mafia deal or something :lol

How about Bama's big money donors? Don't know much about their finances. Maybe you could enlighten me?
You sound nervous son, why are you nervous? :lol

Clipper Nation
12-10-2013, 08:27 PM
:lol Sounds like a mafia deal or something :lol

How about Bama's big money donors? Don't know much about their finances. Maybe you could enlighten me?
Isn't Texas by far the wealthiest athletic department in the nation?

symple19
12-10-2013, 08:28 PM
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Michael Jordan.
12-10-2013, 08:30 PM
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:lol Quoting that SEC hack, who bet his career on it that Saban wasn't leaving Alabama :lmao

Clipper Nation
12-10-2013, 08:35 PM
:lmao

Over at the TideSports.com message board there are 2 threads at the top in regards to Malzahn and Texas :lmao :lmao :lmao
:lol Bammers wanting Gus gone since they can't beat him

Sisk
12-10-2013, 08:36 PM
Not my question. Why would they pay him to go away right not instead of after the bowl game? Who else would they do that for except Saban?

I'll just let you continue to hold your breath. They want this done because of all the smoke, if anything. They aren't rushing in for Saban. But believe what you want to believe. I'm sure Harbaugh will come with Saban too.

Michael Jordan.
12-10-2013, 08:37 PM
Aggy is scurrrrrredd.

Sisk
12-10-2013, 08:37 PM
Aggy is scurrrrrredd.

Wasn't it you that said Mack was stepping down today?

symple19
12-10-2013, 08:39 PM
You sound nervous son, why are you nervous? :lol

Nervous? If Saban leaves Auburn will pick up a few of those recruits. It's a net gain, especially when you consider the ensuing meltdown of Bama fans

I'm working a different angle here.

Now, can you explain how Texas can pay more money? Do you know what the situation with Alabama's finances is? Just being a profitable program (yes, Texas is at the top, according to Forbes) doesn't equate to paying a coach some exorbitant amount of money (like the 10 mil a year + whatever else that's being rumored). We're talking about public institutions with boards and all kinds of other political bullshit.

Michael Jordan.
12-10-2013, 08:39 PM
Wasn't it you that said Mack was stepping down today?
Mack has already stepped down :lol

symple19
12-10-2013, 08:40 PM
:lol Quoting that SEC hack, who bet his career on it that Saban wasn't leaving Alabama :lmao

Irony alert. You've been posting all week that "insiders" guaranteed that Mack would step down today. Has that happened?

Michael Jordan.
12-10-2013, 08:40 PM
Nervous? If Saban leaves Auburn will pick up a few of those recruits. It's a net gain, especially when you consider the ensuing meltdown of Bama fans

I'm working a different angle here.

Now, can you explain how Texas can pay more money? Do you know what the situation with Alabama's finances is? Just being a profitable program (yes, Texas is at the top, according to Forbes) doesn't equate to paying a coach some exorbitant amount of money (like the 10 mil a year + whatever else that's being rumored). We're talking about public institutions with boards and all kinds of other political bullshit.
Alabama folks are the ones who got him in those bad real estate investments. Exxon Mobil, all those corporate assholes, I don't really thing anything else needs to be said about how much Texas can pay more. It's pretty apparent.

DMX7
12-10-2013, 08:41 PM
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Michael Jordan.
12-10-2013, 08:41 PM
Irony alert. You've been posting all week that "insiders" guaranteed that Mack would step down today. Has that happened?
Mack is out. He is no longer the coach. Do you mean a public announcement?

DMX7
12-10-2013, 08:42 PM
I doubted it at first, but I'm starting to believe too, symple 19.

Michael Jordan.
12-10-2013, 08:45 PM
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Clipper Nation
12-10-2013, 08:47 PM
Wasn't it you that said Mack was stepping down today?

:lol Mack is gone, and he ain't coming back until he replaces Sumlin at Aggy...

Sisk
12-10-2013, 08:49 PM
Mack has already stepped down :lol

Just admit you were wrong that he was stepping down today.

Michael Jordan.
12-10-2013, 08:49 PM
:lol Mack is gone, and he ain't coming back until he replaces Sumlin at Aggy...
:lol

Michael Jordan.
12-10-2013, 08:50 PM
Just admit you were wrong that he was stepping down today.

:lol Aggy. He is not the coach anymore.

DMX7
12-10-2013, 08:50 PM
I want Nick Saban coaching the Horns. Anyone else is just as big of a gamble as keeping Mack.

Michael Jordan.
12-10-2013, 08:51 PM
http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2010/1020/pg2_e_MackAggies_576.jpg

Sisk
12-10-2013, 08:51 PM
:lol Aggy. He is not the coach anymore.

Show me the proof.

DMX7
12-10-2013, 08:52 PM
Just admit you were wrong that he was stepping down today.

Chip "God of Orangebloods" Brown has reported it. As such, this qualifies as Mack's de facto resignation.

Michael Jordan.
12-10-2013, 08:53 PM
Show me the proof.
:lmao watch sportscenter

DMX7
12-10-2013, 08:54 PM
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Chip is so fucking smug; gotta love him.

Sisk
12-10-2013, 08:55 PM
Chip "God of Orangebloods" Brown has reported it. As such, this qualifies as Mack's de facto resignation.

Same guy that said "ZERO chance Texas A&M goes to the SEC"

I do think Mack is likely gone, but Saban isn't going to Texas.


:lmao watch sportscenter

You're an idiot.

Michael Jordan.
12-10-2013, 08:55 PM
It's ok Aggy. Just relax, it'll be over soon.

symple19
12-10-2013, 08:58 PM
I doubted it at first, but I'm starting to believe too, symple 19.

:lol

I have little doubt that Mack is gone. When and how is whole different matter, not to mention who will succeed him. Could it be Saban? Sure. But all people are doing is speculating at this point. Period. Lots of "sources" and "maybes" don't amount to shit.

From everything I've read, it sounds like a final decision will be made when the UT board meets on Friday. That's when an announcement will happen.

Then, almost 100% of the time when schools go through a coaching change, there will be some kind of committee formed to execute a coaching search. I just don't buy that it's going to be a quick turnaround. I wouldn't even be surprised if both Mack and Saban (if he's the replacement) coach in their respective bowl games. It's not like UT is hurting for recruits like most other schools would be if put in the same scenario.

Clipper Nation
12-10-2013, 08:58 PM
Just admit you were wrong that he was stepping down today.

http://i.imgur.com/n91qu6i.png

Michael Jordan.
12-10-2013, 08:58 PM
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:lmao even A&M recruit knows whats up

symple19
12-10-2013, 09:01 PM
Mack is out. He is no longer the coach. Do you mean a public announcement?

I'm confused. You said he would step down today. He hasn't. The "insiders" were wrong. You can move the goalposts if you like, but your assertion was never "he's out as coach but will continue to recruit while both he and the board deny that he's made a decision about stepping down." :lol

DMX7
12-10-2013, 09:01 PM
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:lmao even A&M recruit knows whats up

Nick Harvey "#1 #GOD1ST #GODSGIFT#BLESSED #DBNATION #AGGSWAGG#GIGEM #NODAYSOFF#2014" :lmao

Michael Jordan.
12-10-2013, 09:02 PM
Nick Harvey "#1 #GOD1ST #GODSGIFT#BLESSED #DBNATION #AGGSWAGG#GIGEM #NODAYSOFF#2014" :lmao
:lmao

symple19
12-10-2013, 09:08 PM
The other thing I want to stress is that it's probably not about the money. If Saban leaves, it's most likely because his wife is sick of Tuscalooser and he wants a new challenge. (Or the possibility of sanctions)

Bama could pay 10 million, no question, and I also think that a conservative school such as Bama would have more willingness to pay that crazy amount than a liberal school like UT would. Seems to me that there would be a massive uproar if the Horns paid 10 million fucking bucks to a football coach.

DMX7
12-10-2013, 09:11 PM
:lmao

He belongs at A&M.

#AGGSWAG

#GOD+DOESNT+EXIST

Kermit
12-10-2013, 09:14 PM
The other thing I want to stress is that it's probably not about the money. If Saban leaves, it's most likely because his wife is sick of Tuscalooser and he wants a new challenge. (Or the possibility of sanctions)

Bama could pay 10 million, no question, and I also think that a conservative school such as Bama would have more willingness to pay that crazy amount than a liberal school like UT would. Seems to me that there would be a massive uproar if the Horns paid 10 million fucking bucks to a football coach.

Stop applying logic to an illogical situation. This shit is fucking hilarious. Just enjoy the show, maaaaaaaaan.

Bill_Brasky
12-10-2013, 09:17 PM
the result of all this is gonna be fun to watch.

Michael Jordan.
12-10-2013, 09:45 PM
Nick Saban and what I'm hearing
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By Jesus Shuttlesworth, Inside Texas Special Contributor
Posted Dec 10, 2013
Copyright © 2013 InsideTexas.com

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Nick Saban (courtesy photo)
Knowing full well that any numbers I throw out will aid and abet the enemy, I will say the minimum. Again, full disclosure, I'm reporting a story that seems to be taking on a life of it's own but I feel it's important to post now so this website is credited for the work. To that end, I'll also be posting my real identity tomorrow and I will email all subsequent stories to the various media outlets including but not limited to ESPN, CBS Sports, etc.

Here's what I got.

In talking to various sources plugged into the Alabama and Texas sides, it seems Nick Saban is roughly $20 million in the hole due to investments with LSU and Alabama alums. These investments are predominantly in the commercial real estate space. For his trouble, Nick Saban is not a happy camper with these two alumni bases and has a hole in his retirement plan that Mark Ingram could run through. Additionally, I'm told Texas and the Longhorn Foundation have "passed the hat" to provide a dollar amount up front that nearly makes Nick Saban whole after these defunct investments. Call it the Lamarr Houston/Roy Miller investment strategy. The mechanism used to fund this "bonus" will be off the books in order to make the total compensation package more politically palatable when it's officially announced. Texas does not want to be perceived as the Yankees and again, I don't want to help negotiations with enemy.


As far as conventional compensation, look for the number to be right around eight million a year for six years with a two-year option. This structure makes it more acceptable to the BOR and the academics in the school. Don't tell them how much the athletic department contributes to the general fund because they won't listen. Just know that the football men understand how the perception game is played.

Trust me, I understand that there's always a counter offer in these deals, but I'm told that the Bama president does not want to get in a bidding war against Texas because she doesn't want it to seem like Bama is a semi-pro team. Again, this is the academic's mindset at work. She's, after all, Bill Powers' peer or at least is attempting to be. Add this item to the fact that Bama's Athletic Director Bill Battle has gotten sideways with Saban, and it doesn't bode well for the Tide. One final piece is Chancellor Witt.

Dr. Witt is the only ally that Saban has at the administrative level at Bama and he happens to be a Texas guy. Yes, Dr. Witt has a soft spot in his heart for Texas, and has told folks close to the Texas AD that he thinks Saban is headed to Austin.

If Saban is announced as the Texas head football coach in the next few days, fans will be in line to enjoy an historic change in culture and football operations in general.

Like you, I will enjoy the process.

In other words, I will look forward to Nick Saban's process.

symple19
12-10-2013, 09:49 PM
Oh boy!

Thompson
12-10-2013, 10:12 PM
http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2010/1020/pg2_e_MackAggies_576.jpg

So your idea of a put down is an imaginary scenario in which you pretend A&M would hire your pathetic (real) coach? Is Michael Jordan ClipperNation's sock? I have trouble believing there are two people this stupid on the forum, and they're always laughing at each other's lame 'jokes'.

thunderup
12-10-2013, 10:22 PM
So your idea of a put down is an imaginary scenario in which you pretend A&M would hire your pathetic (real) coach? Is Michael Jordan ClipperNation's sock? I have trouble believing there are two people this stupid on the forum, and they're always laughing at each other's lame 'jokes'.
Michael Jordan is a t-shirt UT fan who works as a male secretary. His lame jokes come from brainstorming on his secretary notepad.

Clipper Nation is an atrocious poster who piggyback rides any schtick and drives it to the ground. 17,000 posts of this type of faggotry also confirm he's a social cripple.

FkLA
12-10-2013, 10:22 PM
Mack is currently in Florida recruiting. He aint going down peacefully tbh.

Michael Jordan.
12-10-2013, 10:23 PM
Lol thundercuck following me around like a lapdog

Clipper Nation
12-10-2013, 10:23 PM
Michael Jordan is a t-shirt UT fan who works as a male secretary. His lame jokes come from brainstorming on his secretary notepad.

Clipper Nation is an atrocious poster who piggyback rides any schtick and drives it to the ground. 17,000 posts of this type of faggotry also confirm he's a social cripple.
:lmao Thunderef ballboy and Britney Spears fan

thunderup
12-10-2013, 10:26 PM
:lmao t-shirt UT fan mad
:lmao Clipper Nation STILL hoping those pics of me are true
:lmao big dog thunderup has these scrubs walking on skates

Michael Jordan.
12-10-2013, 10:28 PM
:lmao Britney Spears

thunderup
12-10-2013, 10:34 PM
:lmao hoping and wishing that's my social media account
:lmao trying just about everything in the book only to come up unsuccessful against big dog thunderup

monosylab1k
12-10-2013, 10:37 PM
https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/553469_3695872326741_1058441763_n.jpg

thunderup
12-10-2013, 10:38 PM
:lol nope, try again beta

Halberto
12-11-2013, 12:29 AM
Of course Aggies are scared, but Texas fans should be skeptical. There is a chance, given Saban's track record, that he may leave for Austin. Sure, he's still in the middle of a legendary reign at Alabama... but there seems to be a lot of gossip surrounding his relationships in Alabama off the field.

On another note, I find this ending somewhat sad. Mack Brown gave everything to Texas and loved this school, he deserved better than this. I blame the t-shirt fans that see UT as only a football team. Mack Brown is a genuinely nice man and his players absolutely love him. He always showed a deep sense of school pride and spirit, not just when the cameras were on him. I hope the best for him.

DMX7
12-11-2013, 12:31 AM
On another note, I find this ending somewhat sad. Mack Brown gave everything to Texas and loved this school, he deserved better than this. I blame the t-shirt fans that see UT as only a football team. Mack Brown is a genuinely nice man and his players absolutely love him. He always showed a deep sense of school pride and spirit, not just when the cameras were on him. I hope the best for him.

Prepare to by lynched.

Sisk
12-11-2013, 12:34 AM
Prepare to by lynched.

You get shit because you want Mack to stay. I don't think any Texas fan likes seeing this unfold the way it has.

Clipper Nation
12-11-2013, 12:36 AM
Mack Brown is a genuinely nice man and his players absolutely love him.
:lmao Has Cart McCry emerged from the bus that Mack had Jamail throw him under?


He always showed a deep sense of school pride and spirit, not just when the cameras were on him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qnd8dYmKnAY

Vito Corleone
12-11-2013, 12:48 AM
When a coach throws his players under a bus to save his ass, he doesn't deserve to be a coach.

So far nothing has happened except a lot of reports. Who knows how it has or will play out, and I'm pretty sure when everything is announced it will all be sugar coated to make Mack look good and Texas look like good guys.

I'm just hoping we get change. If it's Saban, excellent. If not, I know one thing, Texas has a lot of Jack to throw at the best football coaches in America.

There are reports John Harbaugh wants to move to the college game. Mike Shanahan is gone at Washington. How many other coaches on the college level wants a 6 million salary? I'd say all of them.

I don't know who it will be, but I know it's going to be an improvement over Mack Brown.

ColinB
12-11-2013, 12:55 AM
I'd take Mack Brown over Mike Shanahan. Get that shit out of here.

Bill_Brasky
12-11-2013, 12:58 AM
Of course Aggies are scared, but Texas fans should be skeptical. There is a chance, given Saban's track record, that he may leave for Austin. Sure, he's still in the middle of a legendary reign at Alabama... but there seems to be a lot of gossip surrounding his relationships in Alabama off the field.

On another note, I find this ending somewhat sad. Mack Brown gave everything to Texas and loved this school, he deserved better than this. I blame the t-shirt fans that see UT as only a football team. Mack Brown is a genuinely nice man and his players absolutely love him. He always showed a deep sense of school pride and spirit, not just when the cameras were on him. I hope the best for him.

:lmao paying a guy $5m a season for 8 wins and derp mccoy under center

DMX7
12-11-2013, 01:08 AM
You get shit because you want Mack to stay. I don't think any Texas fan likes seeing this unfold the way it has.

There plenty who could care less how it unfolds as long as Mack is out. Trust me.

DMX7
12-11-2013, 01:13 AM
You get shit because you want Mack to stay. I don't think any Texas fan likes seeing this unfold the way it has.

And also, I only said I want Mack to stay if we don't get Saban.

Michael Jordan.
12-11-2013, 08:17 AM
Aggy lookin shakkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkyyyy babbbbb yyyyy

Sisk
12-11-2013, 09:16 AM
Aggy lookin shakkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkyyyy babbbbb yyyyy

You think you're about to get Saban but you still can't get us out of your head.

DMX7
12-11-2013, 09:20 AM
You think you're about to get Saban but you still can't get us out of your head.

Well... I'm not going to get into this fight, BUT... so says the guy posting on every page of the Texas Mack Brown thread.

Sisk
12-11-2013, 09:25 AM
Just trying to bring y'all down from the delusion of thinking Saban is coming. Doing everyone a favor.

Sisk
12-11-2013, 09:26 AM
Will anyone take a ban bet that Saban will not be the next coach? Looking at you, MJ

FkLA
12-11-2013, 09:29 AM
On another note, I find this ending somewhat sad. Mack Brown gave everything to Texas and loved this school, he deserved better than this. I blame the t-shirt fans that see UT as only a football team. Mack Brown is a genuinely nice man and his players absolutely love him. He always showed a deep sense of school pride and spirit, not just when the cameras were on him. I hope the best for him.

:clap

lebomb
12-11-2013, 09:37 AM
:clap

LMAO at your avatar........... Benefactor gettin jizzed in the face.

Michael Jordan.
12-11-2013, 09:41 AM
Will anyone take a ban bet that Saban will not be the next coach? Looking at you, MJ

If you so sure, make it money.

elbamba
12-11-2013, 10:33 AM
Of course Aggies are scared, but Texas fans should be skeptical. There is a chance, given Saban's track record, that he may leave for Austin. Sure, he's still in the middle of a legendary reign at Alabama... but there seems to be a lot of gossip surrounding his relationships in Alabama off the field.

On another note, I find this ending somewhat sad. Mack Brown gave everything to Texas and loved this school, he deserved better than this. I blame the t-shirt fans that see UT as only a football team. Mack Brown is a genuinely nice man and his players absolutely love him. He always showed a deep sense of school pride and spirit, not just when the cameras were on him. I hope the best for him.

Up until this week I would have agreed with you. The two things he did that just make no sense to me was have Case McCoy as the only legit backup and then have his attorney trash him after the Baylor game. I wanted him gone but would not have been too upset if he had stayed due to his winning a national championship and two additional BCS bowl games. Not a lot of coaches can say that. However, his actions this week makes me think he needs to leave as quickly and quietly as possible.

Sisk
12-11-2013, 11:17 AM
If you so sure, make it money.

Like I trust you to pay a dime.

Kermit
12-11-2013, 11:21 AM
Of course Aggies are scared, but Texas fans should be skeptical. There is a chance, given Saban's track record, that he may leave for Austin. Sure, he's still in the middle of a legendary reign at Alabama... but there seems to be a lot of gossip surrounding his relationships in Alabama off the field.

On another note, I find this ending somewhat sad. Mack Brown gave everything to Texas and loved this school, he deserved better than this. I blame the t-shirt fans that see UT as only a football team. Mack Brown is a genuinely nice man and his players absolutely love him. He always showed a deep sense of school pride and spirit, not just when the cameras were on him. I hope the best for him.

Fuck this shit. Mack's been a mediocre coach his entire career. He gave UT everything? Bullshit. What the fuck does that even mean? We gave him everything. He's been paid a fortune to underachieve. Two conference championships in 16 years. Let that sink in. Two. 5.4 million dollars for 2 Conference Championships. That's fucking sad. The fat fuck fell asleep on the job, admitted it and got a raise. He failed in player development. He failed in player recruitment. He failed against his biggest rival. He failed in the way he allowed his program to become complacent. In the way he kept shitty assistants because the were friends. In the way he allowed fat fucks to run departments. They've been living off Vince Young for years. Colt was a badass band-aid. I don't think Colt will ever get the credit he deserves for masking the Herp that invested our football program. Thank God for that young man. He got paid to show school pride. He got paid to be "nice". And when he failed he acts like a bitch and wants to keep sucking on the teet. Fuck Mack Brown. Fuck him in his enormous, buttertoothed ass.

Michael Jordan.
12-11-2013, 11:22 AM
Like I trust you to pay a dime.
So you're not confident to make a bet with money? Gotcha.

leemajors
12-11-2013, 11:30 AM
Fuck this shit. Mack's been a mediocre coach his entire career. He gave UT everything? Bullshit. What the fuck does that even mean? We gave him everything. He's been paid a fortune to underachieve. Two conference championships in 16 years. Let that sink in. Two. 5.4 million dollars for 2 Conference Championships. That's fucking sad. The fat fuck fell asleep on the job, admitted it and got a raise. He failed in player development. He failed in player recruitment. He failed against his biggest rival. He failed in the way he allowed his program to become complacent. In the way he kept shitty assistants because the were friends. In the way he allowed fat fucks to run departments. They've been living off Vince Young for years. Colt was a badass band-aid. I don't think Colt will ever get the credit he deserves for masking the Herp that invested our football program. Thank God for that young man. He got paid to show school pride. He got paid to be "nice". And when he failed he acts like a bitch and wants to keep sucking on the teet. Fuck Mack Brown. Fuck him in his enormous, buttertoothed ass.

:tu

Sisk
12-11-2013, 11:34 AM
So you're not confident to make a bet with money? Gotcha.

So you're deflecting the original bet?

Michael Jordan.
12-11-2013, 11:36 AM
So you're deflecting the original bet?
I'm saying if you are so confident that Saban will not coach at Texas, then why not make it a money bet? It should be easy money for you if you are THAT confident.

Sisk
12-11-2013, 12:05 PM
I'm saying if you are so confident that Saban will not coach at Texas, then why not make it a money bet? It should be easy money for you if you are THAT confident.

And I don't trust you to pay, so I'm taking all the risk here. A ban bet is straightforward.

Michael Jordan.
12-11-2013, 12:22 PM
And I don't trust you to pay, so I'm taking all the risk here. A ban bet is straightforward.

You're not confident that Saban won't coach at Texas. I understand.

FkLA
12-11-2013, 12:22 PM
Damn, UT fans are some ungrateful bastards tbh. What coach doesnt win with talent? Yall niggas throw Vince or Colt out there to discredit Mack as if Saban or any other good coach doesnt have huge amounts of talent at their disposal.

I mean he made a shit load of money. Probably more than anyone should make when their primary job is coaching a college football team but still the nigga turned UT into a monster and not just in football. He doesnt deserve to go out with fans dismissing the success hes had in his time there.

benefactor
12-11-2013, 12:27 PM
Fuck this shit. Mack's been a mediocre coach his entire career. He gave UT everything? Bullshit. What the fuck does that even mean? We gave him everything. He's been paid a fortune to underachieve. Two conference championships in 16 years. Let that sink in. Two. 5.4 million dollars for 2 Conference Championships. That's fucking sad. The fat fuck fell asleep on the job, admitted it and got a raise. He failed in player development. He failed in player recruitment. He failed against his biggest rival. He failed in the way he allowed his program to become complacent. In the way he kept shitty assistants because the were friends. In the way he allowed fat fucks to run departments. They've been living off Vince Young for years. Colt was a badass band-aid. I don't think Colt will ever get the credit he deserves for masking the Herp that invested our football program. Thank God for that young man. He got paid to show school pride. He got paid to be "nice". And when he failed he acts like a bitch and wants to keep sucking on the teet. Fuck Mack Brown. Fuck him in his enormous, buttertoothed ass.
http://replygif.net/i/570.gif

Michael Jordan.
12-11-2013, 12:29 PM
Damn, UT fans are some ungrateful bastards tbh. What coach doesnt win with talent? Yall niggas throw Vince or Colt out there to discredit Mack as if Saban or any other good coach doesnt have huge amounts of talent at their disposal.

I mean he made a shit load of money. Probably more than anyone should make when their primary job is coaching a college football team but still the nigga turned UT into a monster and not just in football. He doesnt deserve to go out with fans dismissing the success hes had in his time there.
Mack wasn't even responsible for recruiting Vince.

FkLA
12-11-2013, 12:36 PM
How many of yall are t-shirt fans? Halberto may be on to something tbh. Its not always about just football although he enjoyed plenty of success there as well.

ColinB
12-11-2013, 12:50 PM
He was paid to coach at a high level and failed to do so. It is really that simple. I am a graduate of UT and I am not sure what that has to do with anything. That's great that he is a nice guy, has school spirit, players love him, etc. But the man isn't paid to be a nice babysitter or a great cheerleader. That 5 million plus is to win and to win big.

yavozerb
12-11-2013, 01:08 PM
How many of yall are t-shirt fans? Halberto may be on to something tbh. Its not always about just football although he enjoyed plenty of success there as well.

How many fans who attend UTSA football games are "t-shirt fans"? I have been to many games and never set foot on a utsa campus but yet support them. Without t-shirt fan, UTSA football probably would not exist..

Kermit
12-11-2013, 01:24 PM
I usually don't post the rumor bullshit, but this one cracks me up because it's so believable. To all you fucks who smell Mack's farts, this shows you what a whiny, entitled, little bitch he is.e


From McPhaul over at Hornsports: 12:01pm

Here is what I'm being told.

As I said, Mack is asking for a lot of $ to exit. More than has been contractually agreed upon. Mack has us between a rock and a hard place because he knows he will not be fired. On the Texas side, we just want this thing done but, it is going to cost us.

The releasing of Macks resignation by ESPN has assisted us by making it national news. This prevents Mack Brown from drawing the timeline out any further. Now Mack has to start telling people about his plans to retire, could the releasing of this news by ESPN be premeditated by the Power Brokers to put an end to Mack drawing this out further than Thursday? I would not doubt it.

As I said earlier, as early as Wednesday, no later than Thursday. It is now looking like Thursday.

The other side of this exit contract is the new position Mack is going to transition to. As we have heard from our good friends at Inside Texas, Mack is looking for a similar position that DKR held as assistant to the President. Mack will bring in 1 mill a year in this position.

Here is the PROBLEM. One of the Main stipulations the Saban camp had concerning accepting the HC job at Texas, was Mack cannot be in a position to meddle. As you can see, Mack is positioning himself to do just that. The Saban camp does want that cloud of a tattle tail Mack Brown in the President's ear while they are trying to resurrect the program. The Saban camp is acutely aware that Nick runs a program far different program than Mack does.

I hope this does not end up costing us Saban?

edit: from Bleed Texas @ Shaggy via Hornsports

ChumpDumper
12-11-2013, 01:29 PM
How many fans who attend UTSA football games are "t-shirt fans"? I have been to many games and never set foot on a utsa campus but yet support them. Without t-shirt fan, UTSA football probably would not exist..True. It's not like students consistently go to games.

Clipper Nation
12-11-2013, 01:36 PM
I usually don't post the rumor bullshit, but this one cracks me up because it's so believable. To all you fucks who smell Mack's farts, this shows you what a whiny, entitled, little bitch he is.e



edit: from Bleed Texas @ Shaggy via Hornsports
:lolld Fagg:lolt

FkLA
12-11-2013, 01:37 PM
He was paid to coach at a high level and failed to do so. It is really that simple. I am a graduate of UT and I am not sure what that has to do with anything. That's great that he is a nice guy, has school spirit, players love him, etc. But the man isn't paid to be a nice babysitter or a great cheerleader. That 5 million plus is to win and to win big.

He played a part in making that 5 mill salary possible by helping build the UT athletic department into a monster.

And he failed in what sense? His run at UT was a lot more good than bad. Nothing wrong with thinking its time for a change but yall are going overboard with this shit tbh. Calling Mack's tenure a failure and kicking him in the ass on the way out the door seems pretty ungrateful imo.


How many fans who attend UTSA football games are "t-shirt fans"? I have been to many games and never set foot on a utsa campus but yet support them. Without t-shirt fan, UTSA football probably would not exist..

Dont get me wrong t-shirt fans have their place in college football. They help make it as big as it is but Im just saying an alumnus is more likely to look at more than just wins and losses. UT isnt just a football team and Mack represented the university in a very positive way tbh.

leemajors
12-11-2013, 02:23 PM
He played a part in making that 5 mill salary possible by helping build the UT athletic department into a monster.

And he failed in what sense? His run at UT was a lot more good than bad. Nothing wrong with thinking its time for a change but yall are going overboard with this shit tbh. Calling Mack's tenure a failure and kicking him in the ass on the way out the door seems pretty ungrateful imo.



Dont get me wrong t-shirt fans have their place in college football. They help make it as big as it is but Im just saying an alumnus is more likely to look at more than just wins and losses. UT isnt just a football team and Mack represented the university in a very positive way tbh.

He did, he is not anymore. The alumni are fucking pissed. Weak take per usual.

Halberto
12-11-2013, 02:58 PM
He played a part in making that 5 mill salary possible by helping build the UT athletic department into a monster.

And he failed in what sense? His run at UT was a lot more good than bad. Nothing wrong with thinking its time for a change but yall are going overboard with this shit tbh. Calling Mack's tenure a failure and kicking him in the ass on the way out the door seems pretty ungrateful imo.



Dont get me wrong t-shirt fans have their place in college football. They help make it as big as it is but Im just saying an alumnus is more likely to look at more than just wins and losses. UT isnt just a football team and Mack represented the university in a very positive way tbh.

This. I place a higher value on what my university stands for, I don't want to win shamelessly with thugs/criminals. You can't control who joins your fanbase, but you can control who represents your school and Mack Brown represented well (nitpick all you want, nobody is perfect and not everything you hear is true). 2 conference titles in 16 years may seem low, but what coach in the Big 12 has obviously performed better? Stoops? Compare their bowl history. Mack Brown has a put together an impressive collection of wins.

Bill_Brasky
12-11-2013, 03:11 PM
Fuck this shit. Mack's been a mediocre coach his entire career. He gave UT everything? Bullshit. What the fuck does that even mean? We gave him everything. He's been paid a fortune to underachieve. Two conference championships in 16 years. Let that sink in. Two. 5.4 million dollars for 2 Conference Championships. That's fucking sad. The fat fuck fell asleep on the job, admitted it and got a raise. He failed in player development. He failed in player recruitment. He failed against his biggest rival. He failed in the way he allowed his program to become complacent. In the way he kept shitty assistants because the were friends. In the way he allowed fat fucks to run departments. They've been living off Vince Young for years. Colt was a badass band-aid. I don't think Colt will ever get the credit he deserves for masking the Herp that invested our football program. Thank God for that young man. He got paid to show school pride. He got paid to be "nice". And when he failed he acts like a bitch and wants to keep sucking on the teet. Fuck Mack Brown. Fuck him in his enormous, buttertoothed ass.
for some perspective on just how complacent he really got, since meeting Bama in the 09 title game, Bama has lost five games. Texas has lost 21.

leemajors
12-11-2013, 03:16 PM
This. I place a higher value on what my university stands for, I don't want to win shamelessly with thugs/criminals. You can't control who joins your fanbase, but you can control who represents your school and Mack Brown represented well (nitpick all you want, nobody is perfect and not everything you hear is true). 2 conference titles in 16 years may seem low, but what coach in the Big 12 has obviously performed better? Stoops? Compare their bowl history. Mack Brown has a put together an impressive collection of wins.

Mack's had his fair share of thugs, criminals, and arrests during his tenure.

Bill_Brasky
12-11-2013, 03:18 PM
This. I place a higher value on what my university stands for, I don't want to win shamelessly with thugs/criminals. You can't control who joins your fanbase, but you can control who represents your school and Mack Brown represented well (nitpick all you want, nobody is perfect and not everything you hear is true). 2 conference titles in 16 years may seem low, but what coach in the Big 12 has obviously performed better? Stoops? Compare their bowl history. Mack Brown has a put together an impressive collection of wins.

I've never been very impressed with stoops either. saban would rape his face every year in the red river game if he were there.

Phillip
12-11-2013, 03:32 PM
And I don't trust you to pay, so I'm taking all the risk here. A ban bet is straightforward.
lol scared bitch

Sisk
12-11-2013, 03:59 PM
lol scared bitch

Lol keyboard warrior.

Vito Corleone
12-11-2013, 04:06 PM
The alumni and fans both a right to want to keep the program where it is. Mack was a huge part in making Texas what it is, but now his work is tearing it down, not building it up. Should Texas continue on it's current course the state of the program will be back to where it was when Akers left.

benefactor
12-11-2013, 04:13 PM
I talk to alumni all the time who wanted Saban yesterday. They want to win...period. Seems the whole image thing is more about personal preference and less about going to school there.

FkLA
12-11-2013, 04:27 PM
I talk to alumni all the time

Im sure you do. :rolleyes

I dont know why people act like its so strange to want the football program of your alma mater to have a good image. T. Boone Pickens is on record as saying the money will keep flowing in as long as Ok St doesnt embarrass him and hes not talking about wins/losses. Alumni dont just see a football team like t-shirters do tbh. Mack was a model coach off the field and enjoyed plenty of success on it as well. Is it time to head in a new direction? Maybe, but no need to act like such ungrateful bastards towards him tbh.

Vito Corleone
12-11-2013, 05:19 PM
Best article I've read so far on the state of this situation at Texas.

http://www.barkingcarnival.com/2013/12/10/5176858/steve-patterson-and-the-future-of-texas-athletics-mack-brown-nick-saban-rick-barnes


Running a blog for several years for hardcore Texas fans gives you access to some information from some pretty interesting people.

I usually don't write about it, because I don't want to compromise anyone and I'm not interested in being Internet Rumor Guy. It detracts from sports and fun and it attracts a type of reader that I generally despise. But sometimes I share things so that it can help make sense of the big picture.

The fact is that we are all deeply interested in intel when it's about setting the course for UT Athletics over the next two decades. I just called gossip "intel." That makes it cool and OK. We're operatives now. My simple rebranding now allows us to behave like a small town sewing circle without a hint of self-consciousness.

The Texas AD Search

Understanding the dynamics here are key to understanding the current situation with Mack Brown.

West Virginia's Oliver Luck was indeed the clear front-runner. It was his job to lose.

Steve Patterson took the job away.

Oliver Luck came into the process with the assumption that this was a perfunctory tire-kicking to get sign off from all parties. His mission: don't lose the job. He would show deference to the greatness that is UT, be politically astute, do nothing incendiary or possibly offensive to any egos. A smart approach under most circumstances, particularly when dealing with a proud institution.

And a classic misreading of the room.

The committee - a perceptive bunch, and a group not exactly impressed with where Texas Athletics is right now - wanted an assertive, fearless assessment, a bold new course to address a stale bureaucracy more interested in self-preservation than the actual mission. Not a cautious toe dipped in the water, fear of being branded Kingslayer, and a desire for sign-offs from every living alumni before making substantive change. Luck also intimated that he'd prefer UT wield the sword on popular coaches - if necessary - before his arrival so that he wouldn't have to alienate any of the fan base and create division.

That didn't sit well.

Patterson impressed everyone with his intelligence, his grasp of the big issues in college sports, the homework he'd done on the pressing issues specific to UT. He came in pretty much brandishing an org chart for the new direction of UT Athletics. He had thoughts on obvious inefficiencies in the current administrative structures, offered his blueprint for consolidation, wowed them with his capital projects bona fides, and expressed not caution, but genuine excitement that he'd be picking new head coaches in every revenue sport early in his career.

Would he remove popular long-time coaches if required? Sure. He understands that you don't get to rule from the castle without spilling blood on the walls. But he's not politically impractical. Nor was this a single issue mandate hire.

The fact that he has extensive pro sports and capital projects experience (Blazers, Rockets, Texans) also supported the sense that he was well-grounded in the future challenges of the job when it comes to moving around and optimizing assets - whether in personnel, dollars, or facilities.

His boldness won the day. And the more research I do on Patterson, the more impressed I am with his background. He's done a lot of things that translate well to his current role.

The takeaway?

Steve Patterson is being brought in to remake UT Athletics. Everything is on the table. He's not going to be indiscriminate, but there is change coming. Any assumptions about the future based on the current status quo are useless. You're using someone else's playbook to predict his game plan.

Mack Brown's Future

A few weeks ago Oliver Luck was the clear frontrunner for the AD job. Then he wasn't. And the people who told you that it was Luck's job were the most plugged in and reliable. They were wrong precisely because they were plugged in. They can't control what happens in the room with live bullets. If that makes sense, read on. If it doesn't, CTRL ALT DELETE and save us the trouble.

Texas should have a new football coach in 2014. I can't get a consistent answer on the mechanics of how that happens. Which makes me less certain about that fact. Because the how makes the when real. However, good, reliable people have told me that Mack can read the writing on the wall, but he's simply playing it out to get what he wants at the end. Or hoping for a miracle. That miracle died in Waco.

Equally reliable people tell me that he's resisting with all he's got but will be persuaded when he sees the forces aligned against him this week. I find this view the most persuasive.

However, human beings get to act on that decisional equation even when all evidence points to one place. And they're not all rational actors.

Here's the insane part:

The Baylor game result mattered. What that says about us from a process and evaluation standpoint is discouraging (or how much political capital teeters on a knife's edge) and I won't get into the utter stupidity of a n of 1 - whether good or bad - dictating the future course of Longhorn football or in evaluating the totality of Mack's performance since 2010, but Art Briles did us a favor in cutting the legs out from Mack's biggest proponents.

The orchestrated Keep Mack movement in the press before the Baylor game wasn't coincidental. But Brown didn't get it done and they had no traction to build on. Which they would have had - make no mistake. Witness the idiots who were calling Mack Brown Big 12 Coach of the Year before the game and are now calling for his head. They would have been on the Keep Mack bandwagon if Texas had emerged with a flukish win.

The final bridge to cross is that Brown's self-definition is deeply tied into being head coach at Texas. He digs the ribbon-cutting. He likes being Mayor of Burnt Orange. He likes being in charge of stuff and dispensing favors. And 5.4 million dollars a year for not much work (escalating 100K a year to 6 million in 2020) is a pretty powerful antidote to some fans saying poisonous things about you. He has the salesman's and athlete's capacity for intense self-delusion. He still thinks he will turn it around. He's also pissed off and self-pitying over the fact that his dramatic turnaround of the program in '98 and a MNC doesn't buy him more understanding for what he believes to be a normal, explicable program hiccup that all coaches experience (hey, DKR had his, too).

That all written, I'm told Patterson (and others) will ask Brown to step down with triumphal arches erected in his name, a press conference saying it was his idea all along, a bunch of goodies, and a big parade...or, failing that, he'll relieve him of duties and Texas will pay his 2.75 million dollar buyout. That becomes an interesting game of chicken if Mack decides that he doesn't know what do with his free Saturdays.

The real intrigue happens in the negotiated grey area between those two options - Brown's representative (read: Jamail) digging in and threatening that he won't go easy and will split the fanbase in order to wrest more goodies from the Bellmont trough; Texas reminding them nicely that they're out of touch with common fans and they could make it so he goes out looking petty if they leak his demands and politicking.

The tension between those options means Brown will end up with more than his 2.75 million dollar buyout (that extra 750K courtesy of Dodds needlessly renegotiating in 2012) and some sort of symbolic baby-kissing role at UT from a corner office. One more good feed at the Bellmont trough, Mack still gets to be symbolic Mayor of Burnt Orange, and he gets to play around with analyst gigs.

After connecting all of the dots, I believe Brown is gone. I don't know it. Because at least one irrational human being's ego will influence how and when it happens. And if the Replace Brown camp has pinned all hopes on Saban as Magic Bullet, then dozens of irrational actors enter the picture...

Saban

I have a huge problem with how this has been handled from the start and the false construct of Saban as the magic bullet instead of dealing with Brown as the primary issue and then moving to the hiring phase. That written, the mutual interest is obviously real. I've heard everything from "it's all but a done deal, just give it time and pray Powers doesn't kibosh it" to "this is a clever shakedown of Bama by Saban's agent (Sexton) and a chance for Nick to signal to lunatic Bama fans to back off." The latter strategy has certainly worked for Nick. Right now, Alabama has a 7 million dollar a year contract re-up sitting on Saban's desk. A million dollar a year raise.

Does Saban as a temporary solution fit what we know of Patterson? Saban may be a bulletproof hire. Is he a bold one? Or is Patterson viewing this as a quick, popular fix so that he can evaluate a new (or more compelling) slate of candidates in 2017, and move on to the dozen other tasks on his immediate agenda? If Saban came, I wouldn't be surprised if his successor was on the new staff.

In any event, Powers will need to be sold on Saban - not just because of a mercenary reputation, but because this was the guy that Wallace Hall tried to use to embarrass him a year ago. Maybe his advocates can contrast Saban's APR to Mack Brown's recent efforts and remind Powers that Saban didn't know UT's power struggles.

Dunno here. Mongo only pawn in game of life. I could name 30 coaches right now off of the top of my head who would be an improvement over the status quo.

Basketball

Patterson is a capital projects whiz. We'll build a basketball arena close to campus. The question is whether it's dedicated or multi-functional. He's also far more willing than Dodds to challenge the absurd Foundation seating situation and our unimaginative marketing of the program. The new arena is a good way to start over in that process. The seating fight will be amusing and ugly.

Barnes is coaching for his job right now. We're not going to do an aggressive capital project for a bad basketball team. Our basketball fandom is a lot less resilient than football and Patterson understands that generalist fans need to watch an entertaining winner. I don't know what the success metric or the evaluation timeline is for Barnes.

Baseball

Baseball is a minor sport in the big picture, but it's a source of traditional Longhorn pride and a modest revenue plus when it's kicking ass. The current state of affairs can't go on much longer. The sense is that Augie's hands will need to be pried off of the line-up card, but it may take a year or two. I personally love Augie and what he represents, but it's time.

The Kearney Lawsuit
I've made my opinion known on it. Whatever your feelings on it, don't be surprised if UT refuses to settle, goes to discovery, and uses what it potentially reveals, however embarrassing in the short term, to document the mess in women's athletics to take away their political protection, providing the disinfecting sunlight needed to enable a new direction with a thorough house cleaning. I wont get into the details, but it's a disgrace over there.

People have avoided taking on the management nightmares in Women's Athletics - starting at the top with Plonsky -mainly out of political fear and the department wide managerial willingness to use gender/sexuality as behavioral teflon. That should be coming to an end. Which is great news for the actual Women's Programs and athletes, who should have been the focus all along. Bless the Jerritt Elliott's who succeed anyway.

Random Stuff

Expect more non-revenue program resource consolidation across all departments. Not just for efficiency and cost savings but to break down little fiefdoms. Dodds was understandably spooked dealing with women's programs because of the volatile personalities over there. And his default solution to most territorial issues was to give everyone more money, power, or head count to buy compliance or silence. It guaranteed that the very squeakiest wheels always got grease. Which encouraged more squeaking. And more bloat.

On the men's side, attempts at consolidation under football were unsuccessful, largely because the other male coaches felt (rightfully) that the football support staff heads were often incompetents. See S&C, Academics. Which is why we have separate branches set up for all other sports and football in its own little silo. Patterson will create a reporting structure for adults that still allows special carve-outs for the revenue sports in defined areas (analyst positions in support staff etc). That means the days may be numbered for the football hothouse flowers who have thrived only in the Mackvironment. Though Brown could use parting negotiations as an opportunity to look out for some of his cronies.

Texas might add a sport or two with the cost-savings created by the reorganization. I suspect it will be Olympics relevant.

We will play A&M again unless the general fan uproar is outrageous. I think Patterson may be misreading the enormous gulf in opinion between Big Donors and Joe Fan on this issue. I'm not wild about playing A&M right now, but I'm not going to make it my single issue for evaluating him.

Bill Powers wants a good football coach and is certainly no enemy of UT athletics. He understands what athletics mean to fund raising and general campus morale. Nor does he believe that good athletics are antagonistic to elite academics. And most UT professors agree with him. But he's also going to kibosh anyone that strikes him as unseemly. Defining what that means is the rub. He needs to understand, though, that preventing Mack Brown's replacement will move many Athletics First types angry with Mack over to the Sandefer camp or, at least, make them less likely fight on Powers' behalf. And that's a more important battle for him to win.

Oklahoma wants to do home and home in 2020. We don't.

leemajors
12-11-2013, 05:31 PM
Im sure you do. :rolleyes

I dont know why people act like its so strange to want the football program of your alma mater to have a good image. T. Boone Pickens is on record as saying the money will keep flowing in as long as Ok St doesnt embarrass him and hes not talking about wins/losses. Alumni dont just see a football team like t-shirters do tbh. Mack was a model coach off the field and enjoyed plenty of success on it as well. Is it time to head in a new direction? Maybe, but no need to act like such ungrateful bastards towards him tbh.

The football program is a mess atm, it doesn't take an alumnus to see it. It doesn't have a good image at all. Do you have a point besides making oblique insults in benefactor's general direction? Obsessed :rolleyes

Phillip
12-11-2013, 05:44 PM
Lol keyboard warrior.

lol trying to create bets that you don't even feel confident about, then getting all asshurt about it

benefactor
12-11-2013, 06:37 PM
Obsessed :rolleyes
Pretty much. The avy is the biggest cry for my attention yet.

The Gemini Method
12-11-2013, 06:38 PM
I ain't skurred about Saban to the Longhorns...we got Sarknado! Gyeah... :cry :cry :cry

Bill_Brasky
12-11-2013, 06:49 PM
Im sure you do. :rolleyes

I dont know why people act like its so strange to want the football program of your alma mater to have a good image. T. Boone Pickens is on record as saying the money will keep flowing in as long as Ok St doesnt embarrass him and hes not talking about wins/losses. Alumni dont just see a football team like t-shirters do tbh. Mack was a model coach off the field and enjoyed plenty of success on it as well. Is it time to head in a new direction? Maybe, but no need to act like such ungrateful bastards towards him tbh.
again, putting one person ahead of the program. it leads to failure. 2 big 12 championships in 16 years is pathetic as fuck when shithead Stoops is your biggest rival. and you're gonna pay 5 million a season for that? garbage. absolute garbage.

Michael Jordan.
12-11-2013, 06:52 PM
Word is Mack has been bought out at 4 million.

FkLA
12-11-2013, 07:10 PM
The football program is a mess atm, it doesn't take an alumnus to see it. It doesn't have a good image at all. Do you have a point besides making oblique insults in benefactor's general direction? Obsessed :rolleyes

:lol Ok.

I guess Halberto is obsessed with him too? And if my intention was to insult him personally, which it isnt this time, whats it to you nigga...why do you jump in to defend him? The program was one win away from a conference title and BCS bowl bid with Colt McCoy at the helm--thats far from a mess.


Pretty much. The avy is the biggest cry for my attention yet.

I dont think you know what the difference b/w making fun of and 'crying for attention' is, Dunning-Kruger. Im not the only one laughing at your faggy avatar tbh.


again, putting one person ahead of the program. it leads to failure. 2 big 12 championships in 16 years is pathetic as fuck when shithead Stoops is your biggest rival. and you're gonna pay 5 million a season for that? garbage. absolute garbage.

Im not even saying keep the guy, it probably is time for a change tbh. But whats the point of kicking him in the ass on the way out the door? Trying to discredit all the success he enjoyed by saying he only did it bc of Vince or Colt is weak. Every coach that enjoys the success Mack did has had shit loads of talent. Saban aint winning with scrubs tbh.

Sisk
12-11-2013, 07:32 PM
lol trying to create bets that you don't even feel confident about, then getting all asshurt about it

The pathetic part of this whole thing is someone is scared of not being able to post on a certain forum for a period of time. Just sad.

DMX7
12-11-2013, 07:33 PM
I'm being told the situation is fluid.

Michael Jordan.
12-11-2013, 07:41 PM
The pathetic part of this whole thing is someone is scared of not being able to post on a certain forum for a period of time. Just sad.

Lol scared of losing money.

Trill Clinton
12-11-2013, 07:59 PM
i do agree with my ese potna, fkla that the ut fans should show mack some type of gratitude for what he's done. ya'll treating mack like he aint shit.

The Reckoning
12-11-2013, 08:26 PM
from a UT student/fan perspective, Mack made UT football into a lucrative business and his salary has shown so. it's time to treat him like how he has run the program. thanks for all you've done Mack, but you are no longer qualified for the position you advertise.

Michael Jordan.
12-11-2013, 08:30 PM
i do agree with my ese potna, fkla that the ut fans should show mack some type of gratitude for what he's done. ya'll treating mack like he aint shit.

Mack was saved by Vince and Colt.

benefactor
12-11-2013, 08:36 PM
from a UT student/fan perspective, Mack made UT football into a lucrative business and his salary has shown so. it's time to treat him like how he has run the program. thanks for all you've done Mack, but you are no longer qualified for the position you advertise.
:tu

Well said.

ColinB
12-11-2013, 08:45 PM
Mack really isn't shit. He is a PR guy and a recruiter. He isn't much of a football coach. Ask Steve Spurrier.

Michael Jordan.
12-11-2013, 08:49 PM
Yeah Mack isn't even a recruiter anymore.

Trill Clinton
12-11-2013, 09:01 PM
from a UT student/fan perspective, Mack made UT football into a lucrative business and his salary has shown so. it's time to treat him like how he has run the program. thanks for all you've done Mack, but you are no longer qualified for the position you advertise.

i'm fine with this, but don't kick the man while he's down. every man has pride and if i was in his shoes, i wouldn't quit either if i'm getting paid 5mil a year. if anyone is to be blamed it should have been the AD who kept him around even when the program wasn't performing to the schools standards.

but hey, i went to a school that at one point lost 80 straight football games:wow and is pretty shitty period, so i can appreciate a good coach like mack. regardless of how he ended.

Bill_Brasky
12-11-2013, 09:05 PM
i'm fine with this, but don't kick the man while he's down. every man has pride and if i was in his shoes, i wouldn't quit either if i'm getting paid 5mil a year. if anyone is to be blamed it should have been the AD who kept him around even when the program wasn't performing to the schools standards.

but hey, i went to a school that at one point lost 80 straight football games:wow and is pretty shitty period, so i can appreciate a good coach like mack. regardless of how he ended.
Mack let his lawyer throw case under the bus.

Bill_Brasky
12-11-2013, 09:06 PM
people don't seem to realize that UT made Mack, not the other way around. UT was gonna get theirs regardless.

Vito Corleone
12-11-2013, 09:10 PM
i'm fine with this, but don't kick the man while he's down. every man has pride and if i was in his shoes, i wouldn't quit either if i'm getting paid 5mil a year. if anyone is to be blamed it should have been the AD who kept him around even when the program wasn't performing to the schools standards.

but hey, i went to a school that at one point lost 80 straight football games:wow and is pretty shitty period, so i can appreciate a good coach like mack. regardless of how he ended.

Mack is getting all the respect he deserves from the system, and I'm fine with that, but where he is pissing people off is that he isn't going out with any pride, he is trying to do backroom deals to keep his job. A job he now sucks at. Love you Mack for all you have done but leave the job with just a little bit of dignity.

Trill Clinton
12-11-2013, 09:16 PM
Mack let his lawyer throw case under the bus.


people don't seem to realize that UT made Mack, not the other way around. UT was gonna get theirs regardless.

i didn't know about him throwing case under the bus, thats fucked up. i do agree ut made mack brown. they created the monster.


Mack is getting all the respect he deserves from the system, and I'm fine with that, but where he is pissing people off is that he isn't going out with any pride, he is trying to do backroom deals to keep his job. A job he now sucks at. Love you Mack for all you have done but leave the job with just a little bit of dignity.

i can't fault him for cutting any deals if the other party is willing to pony up. they sat back and let it get to this point and mack's cashing out. i don't think there is anything wrong with him trying to cash out on a few million before he decides to call it quits. like i said above, the ad and rich alumni made mack this way. he got comfortable on their dime and they let it happen.

ChumpDumper
12-11-2013, 10:00 PM
i do agree with my ese potna, fkla that the ut fans should show mack some type of gratitude for what he's done. ya'll treating mack like he aint shit.Give him a watch on the way out.

FkLA
12-11-2013, 10:23 PM
Someone name me an elite coach who won big without ridiculous amounts of talent? Or how about an elite program that wouldn't have got theirs regardless?

The shit that yall use to discredit Mack could be used against pretty much every coac tbh. I remember the shit people use to say about Coker and look at what he's done for UTSA.

FkLA
12-11-2013, 10:23 PM
Someone name me an elite coach who won big without ridiculous amounts of talent? Or how about an elite program that wouldn't have got theirs regardless?

The shit that yall use to discredit Mack could be used against pretty much every coac tbh. I remember the shit people use to say about Coker and look at what he's done for UTSA.

Kermit
12-11-2013, 10:24 PM
Someone name me an elite coach who won big without ridiculous amounts of talent? Or how about an elite program that wouldn't have got theirs regardless?

The shit that yall use to discredit Mack could be used against pretty much every coac tbh. I remember the shit people use to say about Coker and look at what he's done for UTSA.

Mack, it's late. You've got a big day tomorrow. Why don't you kiss Joe goodnight and log off.

Blake
12-11-2013, 10:25 PM
Someone name me an elite coach who won big without ridiculous amounts of talent? Or how about an elite program that wouldn't have got theirs regardless?

The shit that yall use to discredit Mack could be used against pretty much every coac tbh. I remember the shit people use to say about Coker and look at what he's done for UTSA.

Define "won big"

FkLA
12-11-2013, 10:28 PM
Define "won big"

National championship or runner ups which were all thanks to Vince and Colt according to these ungrateful folks tbh.

Kermit
12-11-2013, 10:31 PM
Define "won big"

Stoops v. Texas. That's my definition.

Kermit
12-11-2013, 10:32 PM
National championship or runner ups which were all thanks to Vince and Colt according to these ungrateful folks tbh.

Lol if you think Mack coached any of those teams. What exactly do you think he did there?

FkLA
12-11-2013, 10:38 PM
Ok, Kermit...last 10 national champs, which were won by just the players and which weren't? Need some reasoning behind your answers too.

Kermit
12-11-2013, 10:46 PM
Ok, Kermit...last 10 national champs, which were won by just the players and which weren't? Need some reasoning behind your answers too.

I don't understand what you're arguing, only that for some reason (trolling most likely) you've decided Mack is worth defending. So because the question above is convoluted and looks to have been written by a six year old with down syndrome, I'll give you another chance to rephrase it. What is it you're asking?

FkLA
12-11-2013, 11:01 PM
I don't understand what you're arguing, only that for some reason (trolling most likely) you've decided Mack is worth defending. So because the question above is convoluted and looks to have been written by a six year old with down syndrome, I'll give you another chance to rephrase it. What is it you're asking?

You are claiming Mack didn't play a part in either the NT or runner-up year. He just rode Vince and Colts coattails.

I'm asking you which other NT winning coaches rode coattails and which didn't? I'm also asking you for your reasoning behind your answers.

Kermit
12-11-2013, 11:14 PM
You are claiming Mack didn't play a part in either the NT or runner-up year. He just rode Vince and Colts coattails.

I'm asking you which other NT winning coaches rode coattails and which didn't? I'm also asking you for your reasoning behind your answers.

Why the fuck would I care about any other fucking school? How does that pertain to anything we're talking about with regards to Mack Brown and his lack of coaching ablitity and how it translated to his job at Texas?

FkLA
12-11-2013, 11:23 PM
Why the fuck would I care about any other fucking school? How does that pertain to anything we're talking about with regards to Mack Brown and his lack of coaching ablitity and how it translated to his job at Texas?

It will show just how stupid you are. We can discredit almost every NT winning coach using your logic.

Kermit
12-11-2013, 11:24 PM
Does anyone remember that loss to North Carolina State in 99? I do. Yeah, nothing like getting your punts blocked three times. You would think a "coach" would fix the problem after the first one. No.

Kermit
12-11-2013, 11:25 PM
It will show just how stupid you are. We can discredit almost every NT winning coach using your logic.

Lol. Well, go ahead. Use my logic. Get to it, son. We're waiting.

Kermit
12-11-2013, 11:26 PM
Mack, I'm going to miss you when we play Kansas State. God bless Bill Synder. That motherfucker actually earned that stadium being named after him.

Kermit
12-11-2013, 11:31 PM
Remember when you lost to Stanford? That was awesome. Back when Stanford sucked balls. But according to some, you're a great coach. We were lucky to have you Mack.

And then you lost to Oklahoma 63-14. Amazing. Clapclapclap.

Kermit
12-11-2013, 11:33 PM
But hey, you bounced back in 2001.

What quarterback controversy?

You only lost to OU by 11 that year. Something to be proud of Mack.

Of course, those inbred Okies tripped over their own dicks and opened up the door to the MNC against Miami. All you had to do was beat Colorado....

FkLA
12-11-2013, 11:34 PM
So the losses are all bc of Mack. The wins are all bc of players. Yeah, you make perfect sense. :lol

Kermit
12-11-2013, 11:45 PM
So the losses are all bc of Mack. The wins are all bc of players. Yeah, you make perfect sense. :lol

He's not responsible for any of it brah. The motherfucker didn't coach. Are you not listening? HE DOESN'T COACH. HE IS PAID TO BE A POLITICIAN WHO STANDS ON THE SIDELINES AND CLAPS AND SAYS COUNTRY BUMPKIN IDIOMS SO THAT IDIOTS, like yourself, BELIEVE HE IS ACTUALLY DOING SOMETHING.

But I digress.

In 2002 they were not prepared for the spread attack in Lubbock. Well, they spread something.

They also lost to Oklahoma because Mack insisted on letting his friend throw bubble screens. That might have been four in a row for the Okies. Or five. See, a "coach" might have stepped in and changed strategy. Not Mack. Why quit when you're beating the patsies of the world. No one notices when you beat up on shitty teams. This is where your recruiting comes in and I'll give Mack this, before 2005 he did this part of his job very well. Very, very well.

Clipper Nation
12-11-2013, 11:57 PM
:cry "Texasfan is such ingrates for not licking Mack's balls for the mediocrity he produced!" :cry

Kermit
12-11-2013, 11:58 PM
2003 is where Vince Young stepped into the picture. Of course they tried to coach him. Why is it that Texas broke a foot off in some asses when they stopped coaching him? Mack actually says that with pride, "We let Vince be Vince." That's not a badge of honor fuckface. Thanks Bruce Chambers. Without you, Vince probably would've been a free safety at Oklahoma.

Of course the next year they still managed to score zero points in a game. It was all in the plan. We have a great coach after all.

thunderup
12-12-2013, 12:30 AM
I'm gonna miss Mack for all those glorious times we stuffed shit in his face and smeared it.

FkLA
12-12-2013, 01:18 AM
smdh your hatred of Mack is creepy, dude.

Bill_Brasky
12-12-2013, 01:43 AM
creepier than having a stranger's face as your avatar?

leemajors
12-12-2013, 08:10 AM
creepier than having a stranger's face as your avatar?

yeah when you create gay tranny porn for your avatar in an attempt to humiliate someone else (:lol) you may wanna take a step back and look at yourself.

FkLA
12-12-2013, 10:31 AM
:lol Id like to think its more humorous than creepy, a simple jab at a grown man using a selfie as an avatar. Pretty cute that yall stand up for him though imo. You actually seem more bothered by it than he does, leemajors...why ?

Phillip
12-12-2013, 10:42 AM
The pathetic part of this whole thing is someone is scared of not being able to post on a certain forum for a period of time. Just sad.

Every bit as pathetic as someone who claims to have such an amazing education from an incredible institution, who is scared of the prospect of losing a few dollars that he should easily be able to make up with all the bragging he does about his college background. Just sad.

lol fake confidence

Bill_Brasky
12-12-2013, 10:51 AM
:lol Id like to think its more humorous than creepy, a simple jab at a grown man using a selfie as an avatar. Pretty cute that yall stand up for him though imo. You actually seem more bothered by it than he does, leemajors...why ?

:downspin:

FkLA
12-12-2013, 10:54 AM
:downspin:

http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130522235834/degrassi/images/b/bf/Nonono.gif

Bill_Brasky
12-12-2013, 11:00 AM
yup more deflection.

FkLA
12-12-2013, 11:04 AM
yup

Blake
12-12-2013, 11:21 AM
smh utsa

leemajors
12-12-2013, 11:32 AM
:lol Id like to think its more humorous than creepy, a simple jab at a grown man using a selfie as an avatar. Pretty cute that yall stand up for him though imo. You actually seem more bothered by it than he does, leemajors...why ?

:lol I am not bothered by it at all, just don't know why it's worth that much of your time tbh

FkLA
12-12-2013, 12:06 PM
:lol I am not bothered by it at all, just don't know why it's worth that much of your time tbh

You seemed a little upset about it tbh. How much time do you think that takes ?

Blake
12-12-2013, 12:09 PM
How much time do you think that takes ?

Too much

FkLA
12-12-2013, 12:13 PM
Its worth the laugh tbh. :lol

DMX7
12-12-2013, 12:14 PM
Mack is definitely gone from the looks of that press conference. He didn't say anything to the effect of "I expect to be back", "I want to be back", etc. which is something you would expect him to say.

benefactor
12-12-2013, 12:24 PM
Kermit with some solid historical Mack Brown goods in this thread. :tu

Biernutz
12-12-2013, 12:36 PM
Mack is the CEO of the team. He hires all the coaches, brings in his staff (players) and is
expected to make things work....When the company doesn't meet expectations who has to go?

FkLA
12-12-2013, 12:37 PM
dat avatar, every time :lmao

Vito Corleone
12-12-2013, 01:16 PM
dat avatar, every time :lmao

You are a sad strange little man, you have my pitty.

FkLA
12-12-2013, 01:49 PM
You are a sad strange little man, you have my pitty.

No, thanks.

Clipper Nation
12-12-2013, 01:57 PM
Tbh, I'm still confused about how this FkLA/benefactor beef started :lol

benefactor
12-12-2013, 03:27 PM
Tbh, I'm still confused about how this FkLA/benefactor beef started :lol
Not really a beef tbh. I truly do not give a fuck about him. Its more like a one sided obsession.

Halberto
12-12-2013, 03:34 PM
This thread is a shining example of intellectual debate on the internet.

FkLA
12-12-2013, 03:45 PM
This nigga used to talk shit all the time then started running away and playing the obsession card after he got his shit pushed in one too many times tbh.

I'll stop making fun of him when I want to not when hes had enough. :lol

symple19
12-12-2013, 07:55 PM
Mack's firing is no joke, but Horns' handling of coaching switch sure is
http://www.cbssports.com/general/writer/gregg-doyel/24372203/macks-firing-is-no-joke-but-horns-handling-of-coaching-switch-sure-is


Grab a seat and some popcorn. Texas (http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/teams/page/TEXAS/texas-longhorns) is about to hire a football coach.
Hell, Texas firing its football coach already has been a hoot, comedy masquerading as drama and put on by a bunch of middle-schoolers. It's a farce and it will become a bigger farce, and even if Texas thinks this is deathly serious -- show some respect; this is Texas football -- it won't be serious. Not to us. To us it will be a hoot.
It already is a hoot, with coach Mack Brown (http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/players/playerpage/1737263/mack-brown) being fired after 16 years at Texas by Orangebloods.com (http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/eye-on-college-football/24371310/mack-brown-on-report-i-have-not-decided-to-step-down). That was the website that broke the news to the world -- and to Mack Brown -- that he wasn't coming back in 2014. Brown said he had no idea. He was on a recruiting trip in Florida. If that trip was a misdirection, 62-year-old Mack Brown knowing he was resigning but still flying 1,100 miles and putting on his Texas gear and watching a bunch of high school kids practice (http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/eye-on-college-football/24371668/texas-expected-to-dismiss-brown-sabantohorns-tweet-shot-down/%22%20data-mce-href=), it's the greatest misdirection of all time.

But it wasn't, so it's not, because nothing about this Texas coaching search will be clever. Not in this age of Twitter and rumors (http://thebiglead.com/2013/12/10/nick-saban-will-be-next-texas-head-coach-per-fort-worth-star-telegram-report/) and reporters tracking Texas' airplanes through various aviation websites and even fans tracking those planes and then going to a message board to blow Texas' cover and screw the whole thing up.
See, Texas will hire only a great coach. It's Texas football, and Texas football deserves nothing less. You don't hand the Maserati keys to the kid delivering pizza, and you don't hand the Texas football job to John Mackovic Randy Edsall. Well, you don't. Texas football is too valuable a commodity to be given to anyone but the best of the best, and I say that sincerely, and the booster or two who run Texas football understand that better than I do. They're going to pursue the best coaches in the business, college or pro, and the best coaches in the business demand one thing above all else:
Secrecy.
Mike Tomlin or Jim Harbaugh or Urban Meyer or Nick Saban might be willing to listen to Texas, if for no other reason than to increase their leverage where they are now. Texas comes calling, and your employer takes note. Saban can't go to his boss at Alabama and threaten him by saying Boise State is on Line 1. What Saban can do is go to Alabama athletics director Bill Battle and tell him Texas is on Line 1, but he won't answer it in exchange for another raise or another statue or lower admissions standards for five recruits a year. That's what Saban has been doing since that ridiculous Texas rumor broke a year ago, and it's working; he just lost the Iron Bowl as well as every cornerback on his recruiting radar to Auburn, and he's about to get an enormous raise (http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/writer/jeremy-fowler/24371457/coaching-changes-daily-bama-wants-to-keep-saban-highestpaid). How does that happen?
Texas did that.
Texas will do that for lots of coaches before all is said and done, unless the booster or two running that program -- Lord knows, athletics director Steve Patterson and president Bill Powers aren't running it -- has a stealth hire they're waiting to unload, just as soon as Mack Brown takes his medicine and gets the hell out of the way.
See, when a reporter from Orangebloods.com knows the coach is fired before the coach knows, that's a problem for your school. And I know the reporter who broke it, Chip Brown. I like Chip Brown. That's not a shot at him whatsoever, but a shot at a school -- any school or professional team -- that would allow such a leak as a way to harness public momentum in the direction it wants.
And the school wanted Mack Brown out. Mack wouldn't go. So, enter Orangebloods. That got Texas fans fired up, because Texas fans believe they can do better than Mack Brown, and now the noise has reached a crescendo and CBSSports.com's Bruce Feldman is reporting Brown will in fact take the hint and leave, but only after it becomes "a very messy situation." (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/24371923/mike-tomlin-jim-harbaugh-reported-as-possible-texas-candidates)
Back in September, Orangebloods broke the news that then-Texas AD DeLoss Dodds was stepping down at the end of the year, news that took Dodds by surprise. But see, Dodds is a Mack Brown guy, and the booster or two running Texas football wanted Brown gone. So Dodds had to go first, because it's easier to muscle out an AD than a football coach, and because that would leave Brown vulnerable. About three weeks after Orangebloods let the world know that Dodds was gone, Dodds made it official and confirmed that, gulp, he was in fact stepping down.
And now a few months later it happens again with Mack Brown.
See my point? My point is this: Texas football is out of control, an enormous dog being wagged by a tiny tail, a $100 million enterprise that funds an entire athletic department and created an entire television network and held hostage two or three BCS conferences in the past few years. Texas football is a monster, and monsters don't move with precision. They stomp around in the forest, flattening trees until they emerge into the clearing and trip and fall and land right on top of someone's house.
The monster just fell through Mack Brown's roof.
After lurching toward Nick Saban, the monster will careen toward Harbaugh and Tomlin and Urban Meyer and Gus Malzahn and any other name the booster or two running Texas football thinks is worthy of a job as great as head football coach at Texas.
If the monster wants to do this with any class at all, it would make one phone call to Mike Gundy today and announce his hiring tonight. Gundy would be a home run, but the booster or two running Texas football wants a grand slam. They want to take out a light tower, likesomething out of The Natural. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qj2pXikeDRg) So the monster lurched toward Nick Saban and will veer off toward Kevin Sumlin and David Shaw and anyone else with a huge name, and reporters will make guesses and fans will track planes and this show will go on and on and on.
I'll be over here with my popcorn, watching and having a grand old time. That's the thing about those middle school Christmas plays. They're so bad, they're kind of good.