Honestly, duncan has become an inefficiat scorers because of his decision..

[apalisoc_9]

why is he still bricking shoots? I am worried because if Duncan can't realize that shooting jumpers won't win the spurs championship no one would really tell him..

Save me the BS when he does score efficiently with his jumper once every 10 games...blind homers.

He needs to either let the ball move, roll, fight for a deeper position, let parker shoot, allow kawhi to take some shoots etc.

He's really inefficient right now..Teams will exploit this in the playoffs...I just hope to God he's smart enough to know that teams actually wants him to take that shot.

[Budkin]

lock this thread pls

[apalisoc_9]

lock this thread pls

Why?

it Is a legit concern. No one is saying he's garbage. he's just poor with his decision making...

A discussion can be made as what would be a better alternative than Duncan shooting 18-20 foot jumpers.

[look_at_g_shred]

Why?

it Is a legit concern. No one is saying he's garbage. he's just poor with his decision making...

A discussion can be made as what would be a better alternative than Duncan shooting 18-20 foot jumpers.
Tell me again why Duncan punished Miami inside in the finals. Oh wait you won't cause obviously Duncan jumpshot his way to the Finals last year.

[TE]

One of the motion sets results in Duncan popping out for a possible J. It's an option derived from the system tbh. You take that shot. It's an open shot.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Tell me again why Duncan punished Miami inside in the finals. Oh wait you won't cause obviously Duncan jumpshot his way to the Finals last year.

no.. he shit on bosh in the post..

it is a legitimate concern.. he needs to post up more often tbh

[Arcadian]

It is a commonly known fact that Duncan decided to re-fashion his game a few years ago, focusing more on the mid-range game and posting up less.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

why did he stop using the bank shot?

[SanDiegoSpursFan]

He is pretty inefficient this season, but I'd rather hope he plays better than rely on the other players in big games.

[TE]

I haven't been that active but OP has quickly become one of the worst GNSF's of the year.

Shit takes, shit threads, bad punctuation, bad spelling.

[Budkin]

It is a commonly known fact that Duncan decided to re-fashion his game a few years ago, focusing more on the mid-range game and posting up less.

It's why he's still playing as well as he is. You have to adjust at that stage of your career.

[TE]

why did he stop using the bank shot?
Because the system isn't 4 down anymore. Back then it was 4 down with some perimeter spacing. That ship has sailed son.

[TE]

Tim's coasting tbh...idk what posters want more from a 37 year old almost going through the motions in meaningless early regular season games.

[skulls138]

It's why he's still playing as well as he is. You have to adjust at that stage of your career.
Yup. Its saving him energy. He's making sure he is using most of his energy on D and rebounding, where we need him the most.

[HarlemHeat37]

:lol his FG% has risen from 35% or so to 46% now IIRC..

He's shooting over 50% on his jump shot in the past 10 games, too..

[Spursfanfromafar]

OP - premature ejaculation.

[HI-FI]

OP has to be a troll. first the auntie pics he claimed to bang that were taken from another site, then shit like this. smh.

[Mel_13]

22 and 12 on 9-17 shooting in 29 minutes. If only Tim was more efficient.

[RD2191]

:wakeup

[timmy2003]

Duncan has to adjust his game because of his age.

[GB20]

It is a commonly known fact that Duncan decided to re-fashion his game a few years ago, focusing more on the mid-range game and posting up less.
timmy leaves the posting up play for the playoff. that's what he has been doing for the last two years

[kjhip1]

crickets coming from OP since truth bombs were thrown all in this thread

[Expert]

Tim Duncan is no longer the legendary level player that he was in his heyday however he is still better at his age than other teams' best bigs. That says a lot about him.

[playbonner15]

OP has to be a troll. first the auntie pics he claimed to bang that were taken from another site, then shit like this. smh.

10/10 would bang tbh :wakeup

[freetiago]

Its the other players fault that Duncan is shooting so much jumpshots
since no one can handle or dribble a ball they always look to Duncan to ball them out after taking 1 or 2 dribbles inside
if we had better slashers he wouldnt be jacking up shots at a team leading pace

[Mikeanaro]

lock this thread pls

[SpurSwag]

He's been shooting around 60% in the last 6 games...

there are a lot of reasons for Tim shooting more jumpers these last couple years:

1) Endurance. It definitely makes it easier on his knees putting up some wide open jump shots than pounding down low working for position.

2) They are wide open shots. It would be wrong not to shoot those shots in this system.

3) He's good at shooting. He was a fantastic mid range shooter last year and is getting it back slowly, but giving up on it isn't the right answer. He just has to keep working until its at the level it was last year. Like several other posters have said his shooting percentage is all the way back up to around 46%, which really isn't abysmal. For Timmy's standards it is, but the improvement is great to see

[cd021]

Why?

it Is a legit concern. No one is saying he's garbage. he's just poor with his decision making...

A discussion can be made as what would be a better alternative than Duncan shooting 18-20 foot jumpers.

His jumper has actually improved quite a bit compared to the first 10 games of the season. He needs that shot to help score against big teams like OKC and Memphis (assuming they make the postseason)

[cd021]

He's been shooting around 60% in the last 6 games...

there are a lot of reasons for Tim shooting more jumpers these last couple years:

1) Endurance. It definitely makes it easier on his knees putting up some wide open jump shots than pounding down low working for position.

2) They are wide open shots. It would be wrong not to shoot those shots in this system.

3) He's good at shooting. He was a fantastic mid range shooter last year and is getting it back slowly, but giving up on it isn't the right answer. He just has to keep working until its at the level it was last year. Like several other posters have said his shooting percentage is all the way back up to around 46%, which really isn't abysmal. For Timmy's standards it is, but the improvement is great to see

I agree. Not taking open shots in his range is a bad idea. Especially against teams like OKC and Memphis. If it starts falling, he is still agile enough to up fake and get to the basket for layup or draw a foul.

[Boomersgold]

:lol

[look_at_g_shred]

no.. he shit on bosh in the post..

it is a legitimate concern.. he needs to post up more often tbh
I was being sarcastic of course Duncan was a post threat last playoffs

[chapnis]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I26HaIvK-UY

[spurraider21]

he was 9-17 today... also the increased jump shot volume is probably a huge reason why he's become a much better free throw shooter. he's jumper heavy in the reg season and bangs more in the playoffs. have you not watched us the past year or two?

[NickiRasgo]

Tim Duncan:


"I sucked so bad the first 20 games or so, it wasn't hard to play better."

[Brazil]

Another quality thread by OP...

[Juggity]

I haven't been that active but OP has quickly become one of the worst GNSF's of the year.

Shit takes, shit threads, bad punctuation, bad spelling.


:tu

[Bruno]

It's not like he shoot 54% from the filed in his last 10 games... Oh, wait....

Weird time to do that kind of thread.

[boutons_deux]

He said he had some "issues" (euphemism for problems) in Nov. anybody know what?

[td4mvp21]

People still complain about Duncan?

[will_spurs]

22 and 12 on 9-17 shooting in 29 minutes. If only Tim was more efficient.

Come on, you're looking at the glass half full and you know it.

Timmy has 3 main offensive moves in his arsenal: post-up for easy lay-up / dunk / hook shot, bank shot (a bit farther away from the basket) and finally mid-range jumper from the top of the key.

A couple of years ago I remember him struggling with his bank shot, which was mind-boggling because it used to be his signature move with very high efficiency. Now, as we saw yesterday against Utah, his bank shot is back, he nailed all of them I think. On the other hand this season he's obviously struggling with his jump shot (check the beginning of last night's game, and it's not a fluke). So the OP has a point when it comes to Tim's J. It's his weak point right now. He tends to brick 4 or 5 of them in a row in the 1st quarter of games before finally moving on to what works: hook shots, bank shots... then he gets his confidence back and finally nails a couple of jumpers. It's been a regular occurrence this year, really, and I'd say it's worth being concerned about.

[Mel_13]

Come on, you're looking at the glass half full and you know it.

Timmy has 3 main offensive moves in his arsenal: post-up for easy lay-up / dunk / hook shot, bank shot (a bit farther away from the basket) and finally mid-range jumper from the top of the key.

A couple of years ago I remember him struggling with his bank shot, which was mind-boggling because it used to be his signature move with very high efficiency. Now, as we saw yesterday against Utah, his bank shot is back, he nailed all of them I think. On the other hand this season he's obviously struggling with his jump shot (check the beginning of last night's game, and it's not a fluke). So the OP has a point when it comes to Tim's J. It's his weak point right now. He tends to brick 4 or 5 of them in a row in the 1st quarter of games before finally moving on to what works: hook shots, bank shots... then he gets his confidence back and finally nails a couple of jumpers. It's been a regular occurrence this year, really, and I'd say it's worth being concerned about.

And you're looking at the glass half empty and resorting to a gross exaggeration. Go back over the last dozen games or so (the game logs are out there) and substantiate this "tendency". I'll be happy to yield if you can do so.

[Sean Cagney]

OP is one of the worst in here, the sad thing is he makes a ton of threads.

[HarlemHeat37]

Come on, you're looking at the glass half full and you know it.

Timmy has 3 main offensive moves in his arsenal: post-up for easy lay-up / dunk / hook shot, bank shot (a bit farther away from the basket) and finally mid-range jumper from the top of the key.

A couple of years ago I remember him struggling with his bank shot, which was mind-boggling because it used to be his signature move with very high efficiency. Now, as we saw yesterday against Utah, his bank shot is back, he nailed all of them I think. On the other hand this season he's obviously struggling with his jump shot (check the beginning of last night's game, and it's not a fluke). So the OP has a point when it comes to Tim's J. It's his weak point right now. He tends to brick 4 or 5 of them in a row in the 1st quarter of games before finally moving on to what works: hook shots, bank shots... then he gets his confidence back and finally nails a couple of jumpers. It's been a regular occurrence this year, really, and I'd say it's worth being concerned about.

He's shooting 51% on jump shots in the last 10 games or so..

Last season, he was one of the most efficient mid-range shooting bigs in the league, so it's not an anomaly, obviously..

[apalisoc_9]

He's obviously doing ok in the last ten games, but consistency is still an issue. Why do you think teams force Duncan to take jumpers? Simple, it's not the best offensive weapon for the spurs, not even second or third.. and not even for Duncan. He was bricking shots in the first half of the game last night, and you know damn well teams will try to find that cold streak and force him to take shoots. This isn't a matter of Duncan bricking shots alone, it's just a matter of choosing the best alternative, a more consistent alternative for that matter. Duncan struggled early in the season, and when he does struggle it takes a number of games to get that jumper back and even if he does get it back, it's still not the best option.

Teams will continue to to allow Duncan to shoot jumpers mainly because it takes the teams better offensive options...Are we're gonna act like taking 20 jump shots/36 is going to win the spurs championship? From what I remeber, the Duncan that played in the finals last year wasn't a jump shooting big..while the 2012 was.

[Kidd K]

The timing of this thread is terrible. Duncan struggled to start the season. . .but has been good for pretty much a month straight now. Completely normal (good) Duncan stats over the past 11 games. Which is amazing considering he's nearly 38. The only thing down for him is minutes, and honestly, what do you expect when he's nearly 38? Get off his ass and bitch about something else. This is the one dude who has rarely ever let us down during his very, very long career.

Imagine if Bulls fans shat on Jordan for having a lower than normal FG% his last season with the Bulls during the season. That's basically what it is to shit on Duncan now. Dope and reliable for practically his whole life, slightly down now so bitch about it? Just stop.

[Cry Havoc]

It's baffling that threads like this stay open when similarly trash trade threads get insta-locked.

[Mel_13]

It's baffling that threads like this stay open when similarly trash trade threads get insta-locked.

There's a dedicated thread for trade talk. Unfortunately, a similar thread for mindless ramblings does not yet exist.

[PÒÓCH]

Is OP Skwisgaar Skwigelf from Metalocalypse?

"Honestly, duncan has become an inefficiat scorers because of his decision. (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=226448)"

[cd021]

He's obviously doing ok in the last ten games, but consistency is still an issue. Why do you think teams force Duncan to take jumpers? Simple, it's not the best offensive weapon for the spurs, not even second or third.. and not even for Duncan. He was bricking shots in the first half of the game last night, and you know damn well teams will try to find that cold streak and force him to take shoots. This isn't a matter of Duncan bricking shots alone, it's just a matter of choosing the best alternative, a more consistent alternative for that matter. Duncan struggled early in the season, and when he does struggle it takes a number of games to get that jumper back and even if he does get it back, it's still not the best option.

Teams will continue to to allow Duncan to shoot jumpers mainly because it takes the teams better offensive options...Are we're gonna act like taking 20 jump shots/36 is going to win the spurs championship? From what I remeber, the Duncan that played in the finals last year wasn't a jump shooting big..while the 2012 was.

Teams defend like this all of the time. Leave Duncan open until he burns you there. We did the exact same thing with Bosh in the Finals. Let him shoot 3's untill he made them at a high rate, he didn't so we didn't defend it as much.

Teams go under on guards who can't shoot but are capable of getting to the rim. It keeps them in front of the guard and encourages him to try and beat them from 15-18 feet. Duncan was an above average shooter last season from mid range. Over the past 10 games his mid range game has been good. If we play OKC or Miami he is going to need that shot to fall to keep them from focusing on Parker off P&Rs .

[exstatic]

There's a dedicated thread for trade talk. Unfortunately, a similar thread for mindless ramblings does not yet exist.

#winning

[Drom John]

I was under the impression that the issues Duncan was having was the chest contusion from Tony Allen's elbow.

[look_at_g_shred]

a similar thread for mindless ramblings does not yet exist.
Every other thread on ST.

[szkorhetz]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I26HaIvK-UY
Did anyone see this is the same play, we had last year too?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OiQwwyHDIx8

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

why is he still bricking shoots? I am worried because if Duncan can't realize that shooting jumpers won't win the spurs championship no one would really tell him..

Save me the BS when he does score efficiently with his jumper once every 10 games...blind homers.

He needs to either let the ball move, roll, fight for a deeper position, let parker shoot, allow kawhi to take some shoots etc.

He's really inefficient right now..Teams will exploit this in the playoffs...I just hope to God he's smart enough to know that teams actually wants him to take that shot.

So, you want him to bang himself up just to score more in meaningless regular season games. Duncan's game is everything but inefficient, which is a 180, (not 360, if you get the joke), of your logic and reasoning on many a subjects.