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Dizzle
01-07-2014, 01:22 PM
Lets bs real. Timmy is getting anywhere between 4-7 rings, NO MATTER WHERE HE GOES

Pop is lucky he had Timmy.. thats all there is about it. I give credit to Pop... he is a hybrid of Thibedoux and Don Nelson... but he's no Phil and hes no GOAT. .. top 4 (phil, red, pat/pop, He also subbed out the GOAT PF in the closing seconds of a FINALS game which cost us the series.. Phil would never do that, bruh.

Most experts. including myself, feel like Pop subbed out Timmy on purpose, in an attempt to solidify his greatness over Timmy.. it backfired and now we all pay the repercussions.

ChumpDumper
01-07-2014, 01:23 PM
Feel better?

I. Hustle
01-07-2014, 01:27 PM
Yeah he's no Phil. All Phil had to work with was Michael Jordan, Scottie Pippen, Shaq and Kobe. Those guys wouldn't have ONE ring without Phil. Hell, if Pop would have coached those guys nobody would have heard of them.

RD2191
01-07-2014, 01:30 PM
Pop is a Great coach but he screwed up in Game 6.

FromWayDowntown
01-07-2014, 01:41 PM
Water is wet.

Ice is cold.

Brazil
01-07-2014, 01:50 PM
damn :cry It Still Hurts :cry

Skull-1
01-07-2014, 01:53 PM
Pop is a Great coach but he screwed up in Game 6.

And one.

But then again, overcoming Manu in Game Six was a tall order.

RD2191
01-07-2014, 02:07 PM
And one.

But then again, overcoming Manu in Game Six was a tall order.
I love Manu, but some of those turnovers were so bad I questioned if he was throwing the game.:lol

Seventyniner
01-07-2014, 02:10 PM
Subbing Tim out was the right play. Anyone who tells you differently is trying to sell you something.

Bartleby
01-07-2014, 02:14 PM
Most experts. including myself,

:lmao

lefty
01-07-2014, 02:17 PM
OP with the obvious truth bombs

Skull-1
01-07-2014, 02:20 PM
I love Manu, but some of those turnovers were so bad I questioned if he was throwing the game.:lol


So did I. It was either epic collapse or willful destruction... Completely out of character to be that bad for that long.

Skull-1
01-07-2014, 02:20 PM
Subbing Tim out was the right play. Anyone who tells you differently is trying to sell you something.

:lmao

hater
01-07-2014, 03:06 PM
"subbing Timmy was the right decision then, it is the right decision now, and it will be the right decision ever" - Pop lover contingent

ThaBigFundamental21
01-07-2014, 06:16 PM
Lets bs real. Timmy is getting anywhere between 4-7 rings, NO MATTER WHERE HE GOES

Pop is lucky he had Timmy.. thats all there is about it. I give credit to Pop... he is a hybrid of Thibedoux and Don Nelson... but he's no Phil and hes no GOAT. .. top 4 (phil, red, pat/pop, He also subbed out the GOAT PF in the closing seconds of a FINALS game which cost us the series.. Phil would never do that, bruh.

Most experts. including myself, feel like Pop subbed out Timmy on purpose, in an attempt to solidify his greatness over Timmy.. it backfired and now we all pay the repercussions.

I did say on this site that I thought Pop subbed Timmy so he could put his thumbprint on the series, and to add to his overall legacy in the game. I don't necessarily now if it was to solidify his greatness over Timmy, I think that is a little much. But I do think he wanted a piece of the pie, and it cost the team greatly. But it's in the past now, it's over. The Spurs lost and there is nothing we can do about it. That's reality.

ThaBigFundamental21
01-07-2014, 06:17 PM
Subbing Tim out was the right play. Anyone who tells you differently is trying to sell you something.


Bull shit.

Seventyniner
01-07-2014, 09:35 PM
Bull shit.

Taking Tim out was the right decision the way that doubling down on 11 in blackjack is the right play when the dealer has a 5. One bad result, even at high stakes, doesn't make the decision bad.

Seventyniner
01-07-2014, 09:36 PM
I did say on this site that I thought Pop subbed Timmy so he could put his thumbprint on the series, and to add to his overall legacy in the game. I don't necessarily now if it was to solidify his greatness over Timmy, I think that is a little much. But I do think he wanted a piece of the pie, and it cost the team greatly. But it's in the past now, it's over. The Spurs lost and there is nothing we can do about it. That's reality.

So when Pop had done the exact same thing 10 times during the regular season and once against the Warriors in the playoffs, he was trying to add to his legacy then too?

It worked 9 of those 11 times.

Kool Bob Love
01-07-2014, 09:59 PM
Duh.

Skull-1
01-07-2014, 10:02 PM
So when Pop had done the exact same thing 10 times during the regular season and once against the Warriors in the playoffs, he was trying to add to his legacy then too?

It worked 9 of those 11 times.


Regular Season = Clinch Game of the Finals = :lol :lmao :rollin

therealtruth
01-07-2014, 10:08 PM
Subbing Tim out was the right play. Anyone who tells you differently is trying to sell you something.

It doesn't matter how well you contest the shot if you don't get the rebound. Especially since 3's of offensive rebounds are the most difficult to defend. The defense is scrambling and the offense has the advantage. The Spurs should have got the rebound no ifs or buts. No rebounds, no rings. Pat Riley knew it. The way you get the rebound is by putting your best rebounder out there. Even if you could excuse Pop for taking Tim out when they went with 5 shooters there's no reason he should have been out when Bosh went back in the game.

Also another factor. You can do your best to contest a 3 pointer but it doesn't affect the percentage as much as with closer jumpshots. The best way to defend 3's is to run the players of the line. If you know a 3 can tie you don't allow 3's.

therealtruth
01-07-2014, 10:11 PM
Regular Season = Clinch Game of the Finals = :lol :lmao :rollin

That's pretty much why PJ > Pop. He understood regular season and playoffs are not the same thing. If the playoffs were the same as the regular season Pop would probably have more rings.

Seventyniner
01-07-2014, 10:19 PM
It doesn't matter how well you contest the shot if you don't get the rebound. Especially since 3's of offensive rebounds are the most difficult to defend. The defense is scrambling and the offense has the advantage. The Spurs should have got the rebound no ifs or buts. No rebounds, no rings. Pat Riley knew it. The way you get the rebound is by putting your best rebounder out there. Even if you could excuse Pop for taking Tim out when they went with 5 shooters there's no reason he should have been out when Bosh went back in the game.

Also another factor. You can do your best to contest a 3 pointer but it doesn't affect the percentage as much as with closer jumpshots. The best way to defend 3's is to run the players of the line. If you know a 3 can tie you don't allow 3's.

Taking Tim out means a lower chance at a rebound but a better chance at contesting the three (or a lower chance at giving up a wide-open three). The plan when up 3 with very little time left is to switch every screen. Tim doesn't have enough lateral mobility anymore to do that. If it was only about rebounding, Pop should have put all bigs in there, right?

You gain a slight percentage of getting the rebound by having bigger players in, but you give up more of a chance of giving up a wide-open shot too.

About Bosh: he is a three-point threat. He beat the Spurs in San Antonio last year (regular season) with a three. The Heat had 5 three-point threats on the floor so Pop had to counter with 5 guys that can guard the three-point line.

TheGreatYacht
01-07-2014, 10:25 PM
FUCK THIS DRUNK FUCKING IDIOT

lefty
01-07-2014, 10:25 PM
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therealtruth
01-07-2014, 10:37 PM
Taking Tim out means a lower chance at a rebound but a better chance at contesting the three (or a lower chance at giving up a wide-open three). The plan when up 3 with very little time left is to switch every screen. Tim doesn't have enough lateral mobility anymore to do that. If it was only about rebounding, Pop should have put all bigs in there, right?

You gain a slight percentage of getting the rebound by having bigger players in, but you give up more of a chance of giving up a wide-open shot too.

About Bosh: he is a three-point threat. He beat the Spurs in San Antonio last year (regular season) with a three. The Heat had 5 three-point threats on the floor so Pop had to counter with 5 guys that can guard the three-point line.

You can put the best lineup to contest 3pt shots in but there's still a chance the shot will go in. In fact that chance is very high. Contesting 3's doesn't drop the percentages as much as they do with field goals.

However if the shot does not go in there's 100% chance you will have to rebound the ball. So to reduce your chance at rebounding the ball for gaining a slightly better ability to contest 3's doesn't make sense. Now it's different if the plan was to run them off the 3pt line.

spurraider21
01-07-2014, 10:48 PM
Joe Montana made the niners, not Walsh.

Jordan made the Bulls, not Jackson.

we get it, and we all know Duncan is the franchise. no need to make a thread over it

Johnny RIngo
01-07-2014, 10:52 PM
Anytime people talk up Pop as the GOAT coach, I always wonder why they conveniently forget about him getting out-coached by Avery fucking Johnson. And he had homecourt advantage during the series too. Inexcusable.