So, How did the Toyota Tests Go?

[davi78239]

For those of you who took it last week.

[ObiwanGinobili]

my husband took the test 3 weeks ago.
he said it was amazingly easy, but he asn't sure how he did becasue he skipped breakfast and then at lunch discovered he had brought his lunch bos but not his lunch. :lol

last week(friday) he got a letter from toyota that he did well and they want him to come back for the next level of testing. It's a team test. He's going to call tonight to scheduale it. Only thing that sucks is they only have weekday testing for it and he'll have to take the day off. Also it's 9 hours.

[davi78239]

Wow. I should of applied.

[Taco]

my husband took the test 3 weeks ago.
he said it was amazingly easy, but he asn't sure how he did becasue he skipped breakfast and then at lunch discovered he had brought his lunch bos but not his lunch. :lol

last week(friday) he got a letter from toyota that he did well and they want him to come back for the next level of testing. It's a team test. He's going to call tonight to scheduale it. Only thing that sucks is they only have weekday testing for it and he'll have to take the day off. Also it's 9 hours.

Did your hubby already go to this test?

if so how did he do?

[Tres_Till_it_MHz]

I heard hte tests were'nt all too bad, some simple math conversions but nothing too extreme.

[HB22inSA]

I thought the tests were easy.

I'm going next week for my Group problem solving exercise and Simulation. A friend has already gone through that phase and said it was easy as well.

[ObiwanGinobili]

Did your hubby already go to this test?

if so how did he do?

He's going on the 26th for the group/simulation all day thing.
It's way the hell on the south side.

[SWC Bonfire]

Well, good luck to everyone with their interviews/testing, but working for the Japanese would drive me nuts.

Too strict and regimented for my South Texas cowboy ass.

[ObiwanGinobili]

Well, good luck to everyone with their interviews/testing, but working for the Japanese would drive me nuts.

Too strict and regimented for my South Texas cowboy ass.


i'm looking at job security and affordable health insurance ... not too mention not having to guess whats gonna be in the paycheck.

[Spam]

Well, good luck to everyone with their interviews/testing, but working for the Japanese would drive me nuts.

Too strict and regimented for my South Texas cowboy ass.

Maybe if US plants were more strict we wouldn't have lost all those manufacturing jobs?

[SWC Bonfire]

Maybe if US plants were more strict we wouldn't have lost all those manufacturing jobs?

:lol Well, they pretty much are, considering the ISO rules for being a certified facility.

This IS a US plant. A lot of the "domestic" plants moved to Mexico & Canada.

There is a distinct difference in "corporate culture" between US and Japanese firms, and European ones as well.

[HB22inSA]

It's way the hell on the south side.
Hell Yeah!!

I love the southside!!!!

[Taco]

Hell Yeah!!

I love the southside!!!!

I took the test last night to Palo Alto very nice campus.


I think i did pretty good.

[ObiwanGinobili]

I took the test last night to Palo Alto very nice campus.


I think i did pretty good.


which test? the 1st one or the 2nd?

[Taco]

1st Test On The Computer Questions And Fill Out Application

[ObiwanGinobili]

oh..

emo is taking the 2nd test (group & simulation) on the 26th so I'm looking for some heads up info...

maybe someone around here will be taking it before him.

[Taco]

oh..

emo is taking the 2nd test (group & simulation) on the 26th so I'm looking for some heads up info...

maybe someone around here will be taking it before him.

This is what i heard

Third Phase
the physical phase.
You spend several hours lifting various blocks of different weight 10,20,30,50 pound boxes and moving them 3 ft away to another area for several hours. they take a lunch break returned after lunch to do it again for several hours more.

[ObiwanGinobili]

This is what i heard

Third Phase
the physical phase.
You spend several hours lifting various blocks of different weight 10,20,30,50 pound boxes and moving them 3 ft away to another area for several hours. they take a lunch break returned after lunch to do it again for several hours more.


well he'll definaly pass that! no problem.... and I'm not worried about hte simulation either... but the thought of him working in a group: thats where I think he'll earn his 1st B-.

[SWC Bonfire]

This is what i heard

Third Phase
the physical phase.
You spend several hours lifting various blocks of different weight 10,20,30,50 pound boxes and moving them 3 ft away to another area for several hours. they take a lunch break returned after lunch to do it again for several hours more.


:wow You have got to be kidding me.

FYI Toyota - your countrymen have come up with machines that do this, they're called robots.

[ObiwanGinobili]

SWC
thast not too bad.
10, 20, 30 and 50 pounds moved to 3 ft away? hello.. easy.
bend at the knees.

[SWC Bonfire]

SWC
thast not too bad.
10, 20, 30 and 50 pounds moved to 3 ft away? hello.. easy.
bend at the knees.

Trust me, I've loaded many a semi with 110# coffee sacks full of pecans, that's nothing.

But repetitive. Sounds like they want human robots.

I remember seeing a documentary on Henry Ford & how he had to pay twice as much as craftsmen would make elsewhere just to get them to give up their skill & pride to work on an assembly line...I hope that the final job will be much more interesting for tu esposo.

[sa_butta]

Fuckers just sent me a letter thanking them for inquiry but no test for me. Fuck you very much Toyota.

[ObiwanGinobili]

Trust me, I've loaded many a semi with 110# coffee sacks full of pecans, that's nothing.

But repetitive. Sounds like they want human robots.

I remember seeing a documentary on Henry Ford & how he had to pay twice as much as craftsmen would make elsewhere just to get them to give up their skill & pride to work on an assembly line...I hope that the final job will be much more interesting for tu esposo.


it's a test dude. i think they just want to se if you CAN do it. like an endurance test.
I doubt some guy will be doing that all day every day as his actuall job. even walmart has motorized hand trucks.

[1369]

:lol Well, they pretty much are, considering the ISO rules for being a certified facility.

I don't know about how "regimented" ISO is Swc. I've done work in facilities that are 9001 certified and from my view up in the peanut gallery, all it really is, is a paperwork/records issue. It also looks like the whole ISO thing is a sham set up by some Euros that really doen't "certify" anything.

[ObiwanGinobili]

Fuckers just sent me a letter thanking them for inquiry but no test for me. Fuck you very much Toyota.


sorry. :(

[sa_butta]

It would have been nice but I have good job now.

[SWC Bonfire]

It also looks like the whole ISO thing is a sham set up by some Euros that really doen't "certify" anything.

That is what I've been saying for years. :tu

[MannyIsGod]

They DO want human robots. I would never survive in a job like that. Not because I coudln't do it physically, but mentally. That shit must be beyond boring.

[sa_butta]

They DO want human robots. I would never survive in a job like that. Not because I coudln't do it physically, but mentally. That shit must be beyond boring.Thats the truth besides that it has to be pretty demanding for what they are willing to pay.

[ObiwanGinobili]

my view of a job is that it is always , at best, the 3rd most important thing in my life. and is just a means of allowing me to survive in this world and do what i want.

so weather or no it's boring isn;t a factor.
pay, benefits, stability.. those are factors.

[SpursWoman]

and is just a means of allowing me to survive in this world and do what i want




That's it? :lol

[MannyIsGod]

my view of a job is that it is always , at best, the 3rd most important thing in my life. and is just a means of allowing me to survive in this world and do what i want.

so weather or no it's boring isn;t a factor.
pay, benefits, stability.. those are factors.
How much I like a position is definetly a factor for me. While my job may not be the most important thing in my life, I will spend a good amount of time doing it. At least a fourth of my life. So, I would rather not be bored to tears and be doing something I enjoy that comes with what you mentioned.

To be honest, I'm not really capable of doing boring work. It literally will make me go nuts.

[tlongII]

my view of a job is that it is always , at best, the 3rd most important thing in my life. and is just a means of allowing me to survive in this world and do what i want.

so weather or no it's boring isn;t a factor.
pay, benefits, stability.. those are factors.


I don't think I could handle looking at my job that way. I have to enjoy whatever I'm doing for the most part. There are parts of any job that would be boring or unpleasant, but for the most part my job needs to be fun. If it's not fun I will find another job.

[SpursWoman]

To be honest, I'm not really capable of doing boring work. It literally will make me go nuts.



Yeah, but think about how much it will prolong your life.....seeing how much LONGER it makes your days!

[SpursWoman]

I don't think I could handle looking at my job that way. I have to enjoy whatever I'm doing for the most part. There are parts of any job that would be boring or unpleasant, but for the most part my job needs to be fun. If it's not fun I will find another job.


No kidding....I love my job. We do a lot of business with your company, btw. :)

[Taco]

http://woai.com/news/toyota/story.aspx?content_id=6D906E1C-C350-4DF5-A5AA-FCA4EA2150CB

Inside the Toyota Worker Experience
LAST UPDATE: 11/11/2004 5:55:03 AM
Posted By: CyberBob
Watch this story...


Randy Beamer
News 4 WOAI

Toyota is coming! But exactly what are they looking for in workers? How do you get one of those jobs?

Seems like everybody's asking us about jobs at that Toyota plant they're building on the South Side. So I've been setting out to find you answers. That's how I wound up - with my camera - in the middle of the cotton fields of Alabama.

A remote patch of Huntsville, Alabama is home to Toyota's truck engine plant. It's the same place that's gearing up to build even more engines, so it can supply San Antonio's truck plant when that opens in 2006. So with a group from San Antonio, I set out to check out how Toyota works and find out what they're looking for in employees.

First, it's not how much you know, but how hard you can work and learn.

“We look for people with high energy, anybody who has good energy, good heart, and wants to learn," says Wes Woods, Toyota's production manager in Huntsville. "We can teach how to do these jobs, how to build engines, vehicles. Absolutely.”

But they want to make sure everyone they hire is willing to stay at Toyota for years. So getting hired is usually a long process that can take months.

And that impressed San Antonio lawyer Greg Kosterlitzky. “The effort and energy that goes into the selection process itself, that investment alone tells me its going be a long term endeavor, a long term objective for you to grow at Toyota.”

When the Huntsville plant opened, it had 350 job openings. 30,000 requested applications!

And as I found at another Toyota plant in Indiana, narrowing the field requires a whole bunch of steps, including a number of tests. First psychological, then mechanical aptitude, and physicals. If you get that far, you'll go through personal interviews and actual on-the-job training.

“We have some assessments where we train those candidates, assess their capabilities, their heart, their skill, their capability to learn, their desire," said Millie Marshall, Toyota's General Manager for Administration in Huntsville. "Then we narrow that down to our final candidate selection.”

In fact, final candidates will work a real 40-hour week on the line to see if they can handle it.

Kosterlitzky predicts Toyota's hiring process will surprise many would-be applicants. “That, I think, is not the way the typical American thinks. We look at jobs for two to three years, and look to move on and this smacks of that whole concept. So to me, that was phenomenal.”

Toyota officials tell me a few people have gone through that training tryout week at plants and reacted by saying they didn't mind the work. They just wouldn't want to do it every day.

Of course, it's exactly what they would do every day! For years.

Toyota says if you don't "get" that, you don't get the job.

Every day Toyota wants workers to improve at whatever it is they do. It's called ‘kaizen.’ It's Toyota's favorite buzzword. Its philosophy. And reminders of kaizen are posted all over Toyota plants. Kaizen, continuous improvement, is expected.

So they're looking for team players and problem solvers who are flexible, adaptable and patient through the hiring process.

But if you get that Toyota job, you can expect frequent pay raises, at least during your first three years. Toyota calls that your "growing period."

“We have increases within every six months, and as they skill up, they get increases to support that,” said Marshall.

And yes, workers do get discounts on Toyotas!

“That's one of our benefits. We provide discounts to all our team members. And their families. We feel that's an important part of being the Toyota family, so - yes - we provide that.”

Toyota starts taking applications early next year. We'll keep you posted on how, what, where and when.

[SWC Bonfire]

If you truely enjoy your job you'll never work a day in your life.

[batman2883]

Fuck that i truly enjoy my job but i have to work my ass off here sometimes

[tlongII]

No kidding....I love my job. We do a lot of business with your company, btw. :)


What does your company do?

[SpursWoman]

What does your company do?


Sells your stuff through the internet, catalogs & our retail store here in SA......baseball stuff, mostly. :)

[tlongII]

Sells your stuff through the internet, catalogs & our retail store here in SA......baseball stuff, mostly. :)

Cool. I hope you sell lots of it! :)

[Horry For 3!]

What tests?

[ObiwanGinobili]

What tests?


:lol
.... well if you have to ask, then obviously........

[Horry For 3!]

:lol
.... well if you have to ask, then obviously........
I'm just messing :) but like what tests you gotta take?

[Tres_Till_it_MHz]

What gets me are the personality tests. They ask such vague questions and supply you with these canned answers, its almost hard to stay focused and keep yourself politically correct or in tune with whichever org you are applying for. Bow down to the man and prosper. :fro

[ObiwanGinobili]

I'm just messing :) but like what tests you gotta take?

1st test day is computer testing and question answering(8hrs)

2nd test day is group test(3hrs) and a simultion(6 hrs)

3rd is physical

then after that there is some other stuff like phycological, and actuall interviews. then the actuall hiring. there is a 3 month trianing program.

[Suns Fan]

I got my letter Saturday to go take the 5 hour test, If anyone else got one also make sure you e mail me so we can go together.

[email protected]

[mouse]

Does anyone know when they will drug test?
I want to know when I need to stop smoking.

[HB22inSA]

I'll have no problem with the physical. Starting pay is $15.25/hr, with an increase to $20.00+ within a year or two.

I work in a box plant right now (Temple-Inland @ the corner of SBC center Pkwy and IH-35). I'm one of their top operators there, and they know that I'm going through the hiring process with Toyota.

Recently, they're throwing all kinds of money at their best people at our plant (almost under the table) to keep us there.

I got paid very well before, but recently received a 17% raise, with another 5% raise coming at the end of September.

It's quite a dilemma, because there is security at Toyota, but the money is quite a bit more at my current job.

[ObiwanGinobili]

Okay,
Emo went for the 2nd round of testing yesterday. It was from 7:30am till 5:50pm.
they were told ahead of time that it would be a 2 part testing but it ended up being a 3 part testing.

1st was a group project. Pick a type of vehicle to build and sell based on demand, cost, ability/time to build. they also had to factor in things like damaged parts etc.
The goal was to have a certain net profit (based on type of vehicle chosen) after 3 tries.(all 3 tries added together) My husband and his partner only needed a net profit of $2,200 - but they actually got a net profit of $5400. The assesor in charge was shocked, so I think thats a good thing.

2nd part was the Physical/endurance part. Lifting different weighted boxes and such and moving to another place. They did it for 3 hours straight. Alot of assesors at this one too.. .watching everyone's lifting technique, pace, stamina etc etc.

3rd part was the assembly simulation. Mostly with wiring. You had to do it exactly the wya they wanted you to do it. Placing each wire, checking the dash, double checking with computer before you moved onto the next one. (kinda like back in school when you took algebra and the teacher wanted to "see your work")

All in all he said it was tiring but not hard. Looking back he can;t see how he possibly got anything wrong. The other guys there weren't all the sharpest crayons in the box though.. and he said he could tell one guy fer sure just would not be making it past this level, he was surprised he made it thru the day.

One other guy did have 3 buddy's that have allready been hired by Toyota and are currently in Iowa takign thier 3 month training. when they are done they will come back and help in trainign sessions to be held down here.

Afterwards Emo taked with the lady in charge, cheif assesor , whatever she's called, and she said that the next stage after this was the actual interview and we'll know within a month weather or not Emo is hired.
So I guess we'll be getting a letter in a few weeks that either says "thanks but no thanks" or "please call to set up interview".
NOW EVERYONE CROSS YOUR FINGERS THAT ITS THE "PLEASE CALL FOR INTERVIEW" LETTER!!! Thanks. :D

[Instigator]

well i'v already been thru the interview. you should receive a call for that. then i received a call a week later. they offer you a position. if you accept they setup another physical. basically all you do is go in and see what you can max out at while doing different workouts. once i completed that i saw the doctor for a complete physical/the works. they do a hearing and eye exam. test for tb and take hair, urine, and blood sample. they do complete blood work on you. you will get results in the mail. now i am just waiting for a call for my training. i hate the fact that they leave you in the dark. but what can you do right.

[ObiwanGinobili]

well i'v already been thru the interview. you should receive a call for that. then i received a call a week later. they offer you a position. if you accept they setup another physical. basically all you do is go in and see what you can max out at while doing different workouts. once i completed that i saw the doctor for a complete physical/the works. they do a hearing and eye exam. test for tb and take hair, urine, and blood sample. they do complete blood work on you. you will get results in the mail. now i am just waiting for a call for my training. i hate the fact that they leave you in the dark. but what can you do right.


thanks for the info! :tu :)
I know what you mean about being "left in the dark" just this extra bit you told me helps.... you really feel left out on the line with this whole process.

[ObiwanGinobili]

BTW-
what kinda questions should we expect in the interview?
you can PM me if you don't want to post that here... thanks! :angel

[mouse]

well if there are any spelling tests I am fucked!


was there any food? someone said at the palo alto location there was a dude selling tacos out of an ice chest, I have to go in this Wednesday .

I know me passing the drug teat will not be easy but I just can't give up now,

I wonder if I should put that I am handicap if that will help, or hurt my chances.

[JoeChalupa]

Being short is not.....never mind.

[Tres_Till_it_MHz]

not sure but i've heard they do a hair sample instead of a cup 'o juice.

[JoeChalupa]

http://www.cleartest.com/products/picts/C_shampoo.jpg

Shampoo anyone?

[Instigator]

don't worry mouse there won't be any spelling tests buth they will take both urine and hair samples for the drug test :smokin. that's what they told me. good luck

[Steve Perry]

So If I go in there bald they will know right off the bat? :lmao

[JoeChalupa]

You better shave around your "bat" as well.

[ObiwanGinobili]

So If I go in there bald they will know right off the bat? :lmao


If you shave off your head then they'll "harvest" the hair elsewhere... armpit, arm, chest..... "down there".......
have done a folical test before and they'll do what they gotta do......

[ObiwanGinobili]

So Emo had his final interview on the 7th. He thinks it went ver well. :tu.
Got another call on the 14th - "after looking at his test scores they wanted him to come in for some additional testing."
So then he went in on the 17th for 3 hours of computer testing and office roll-play.
the computer testing he said was alot of math and some other questions that he thought were suspiciously similiar to those found on IQ tests.
The roll-playing was mostly him interviewing, hiring, training someone for a play company.

They said that this testign and info was for future use, and we win't hear back about this testing specificlly. But we can expect another phone call as soon as the background and reference checks are finished.
__________________________________________

Sidenote:
about the plant.
It's about 75% done. It will have a cafeteria, an onsite day care, and a gym.
It will also have a full medical facility. And if your family is on the health coverage offered thru the company then you can all use the doctor at thier clinc.

also, interesting statistic, 74% of the people who take the 1st day testing fail.
of the 26% that move on to the day 2 testing, 51% fail.
:wow.

[SWC Bonfire]

Good luck to you and your esposo, sounds promising for him. :tu

[CosmicCowboy]

I did some training on new equipment out there for employees/managers that have already been hired...it's pretty wild the way Toyota does things...I am not saying it is wrong...just very different from anything you have ever seen before...

Apparently they literally write a "step by step" job procedure for every job out there...and I do mean step by step...the area I was training them on involved routine maintenance/troubleshooting on six different pieces of equipment...they had to write a job procedure that starts "walk in door#x and turn left"..."walk to the front of unit #5..." and is LITERALLY STEP by STEP...pretty wild...

[boutons]

"LITERALLY STEP by STEP"

human robots, getting programmed. :)

Do you make whirring electric motor sounds? :)

[tlongII]

So Emo had his final interview on the 7th. He thinks it went ver well. :tu.
Got another call on the 14th - "after looking at his test scores they wanted him to come in for some additional testing."
So then he went in on the 17th for 3 hours of computer testing and office roll-play.
the computer testing he said was alot of math and some other questions that he thought were suspiciously similiar to those found on IQ tests.
The roll-playing was mostly him interviewing, hiring, training someone for a play company.

They said that this testign and info was for future use, and we win't hear back about this testing specificlly. But we can expect another phone call as soon as the background and reference checks are finished.
__________________________________________

Sidenote:
about the plant.
It's about 75% done. It will have a cafeteria, an onsite day care, and a gym.
It will also have a full medical facility. And if your family is on the health coverage offered thru the company then you can all use the doctor at thier clinc.

also, interesting statistic, 74% of the people who take the 1st day testing fail.
of the 26% that move on to the day 2 testing, 51% fail.
:wow.


That role-playing stuff sounds sexual in nature.

[CosmicCowboy]

That role-playing stuff sounds sexual in nature.

http://mccullochs.on.ca/acatalog/Fd27167.jpg

Hi...I'm TLong...I'm here for my interview...

[Shelly]

http://mccullochs.on.ca/acatalog/Fd27167.jpg

Hi...I'm TLong...I'm here for my interview...


:lmao x a million

[Tres_Till_it_MHz]

Whoa so there are already quite a few people who have already got a job at Toyota on this forum. That is too cool.

I have a female friend who just finished the physical part of the testing. I thought from what I heard there would be no way she would make it through. She is anxiously awaiting word from Toyota now. Do ya'll know what the next part is?

[ObiwanGinobili]

http://mccullochs.on.ca/acatalog/Fd27167.jpg

Hi...I'm TLong...I'm here for my interview...


:lmao :lmao
oh dear that's precious!

[ObiwanGinobili]

well emo got called with the job offer (of course he said yes)
then he went in for his physical last wendsday.
they said he'll most likely be called with a position in the next 2 months, but it could go as long as 6. (thats when he puts in his 2 weeks at work)
So now it's just sitting and waiting .....

[Vashner]

Is he watching reruns of "Gung Ho" :)

[tlongII]

well emo got called with the job offer (of course he said yes)
then he went in for his physical last wendsday.
they said he'll most likely be called with a position in the next 2 months, but it could go as long as 6. (thats when he puts in his 2 weeks at work)
So now it's just sitting and waiting .....

That's great Obi!

[tlongII]

http://mccullochs.on.ca/acatalog/Fd27167.jpg

Hi...I'm TLong...I'm here for my interview...


This is not funny.

[JoeChalupa]

well emo got called with the job offer (of course he said yes)
then he went in for his physical last wendsday.
they said he'll most likely be called with a position in the next 2 months, but it could go as long as 6. (thats when he puts in his 2 weeks at work)
So now it's just sitting and waiting .....

Is it true that you still have to complete a "probation" period even after you are "hired" and can still be let go after that?
I know there is no "guarantee" in most jobs but I was just wondering.

Go Toyota!!

[ObiwanGinobili]

every place I've ever worked has had a 30, 60 or 90 day probationary period.... so toyopta might also. they are putting alot of time $$ an effort into the hiring and they want the best of the best. it seems to me that they are concerned about employees having attitude problems.. they ask alot of questions about attitude and work situation conflicts.

i do know that once you get your assignment they plan to put you on a 6 week cardio routine....

[ObiwanGinobili]

Is he watching reruns of "Gung Ho" :)


omg! I love the part at the end where he is polishing the "windsheild" !! :lol

[Vashner]

lol...
http://home.satx.rr.com/krograth/images/gunho01.jpg

[Taco]

well emo got called with the job offer (of course he said yes)
then he went in for his physical last wendsday.
they said he'll most likely be called with a position in the next 2 months, but it could go as long as 6. (thats when he puts in his 2 weeks at work)
So now it's just sitting and waiting .....

Congrats!!!!!!!! :spin