Trade Deadline Thread

[SpurPadre]

[QUOTE = timtonymanu; 7142351]. Leonard e Fredette na mesma equipe teria sido interessante [/ QUOTE]
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Wow, Leonard taunting? I know one changes their personality as soon as they don Spurs gear but that's still just shocking to see.

[Chomag]

Damn, I was getting pumped that the Spurs were engaged in trade rumors at all... :lol

Spur's definition of being "engaged" in Trade talks means they thought about it for a couple of seconds I guess :lol

[Chomag]

Wow, Leonard taunting? I know one changes their personality as soon as they don Spurs gear but that's still just shocking to see.

Would love to see this against Koby and the Lakers

[szkorhetz]

Trade for Jordan Hill, TBH.

[Captivus]

Jimmer has to play SG, he is not a PG, IMO.
Ill take him in a second, just imagine the open shots he will get with the Spurs..

[look_at_g_shred]

Trade for Jordan Hill, TBH.
That contract is horrible.

[szkorhetz]

That contract is horrible.
Hill would immediately be our second best big.

[bklynspursfan]

Hill would immediately be our second best big.

Duncan/Splitter/Diaw

[Chinook]

That contract is horrible.

What? It's a $3.5 Million expiring. Nothing bad about it.

[Robz4000]

Hill would immediately be our second best big.

:lol No. He wouldn't.

[Blizzardwizard]

Damn, I just got trolled by that fake Woj on Fredette, I was half way through writing an article on it :lol

[SpurPadre]

Would love to see this against Koby and the Lakers

Would've loved to have seen this against Lebron last year.

[look_at_g_shred]

What? It's a $3.5 Million expiring. Nothing bad about it.
Damn I thought it was something like 8.5 :lol

[cjw]

Hill would immediately be our second best big.

No matter what you think about Splitter, Diaw schools Hill

[Cigamodnalro]

I can't attest to the source, although @ORLMagicStuff claims the guy has "nailed" a few trades in the past:
RT @IBNincarcerated (https://twitter.com/IBNincarcerated) 6m (https://twitter.com/IBNincarcerated/status/436248428776259585) **UPDATED NBA RUMORS**Source: Spurs & Magic discussing deal that would send Afflalo to San Antonio (Bobcats also involved heavy)

[Chinook]

Nah, they're not.

[Chinook]

Well, the Bobcats might be after him. Someone really needs to be. He's the perfect vet to stick on a young team.

[ace3g]

Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine
(https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine)Also hearing Pelicans today officially received what ESPN reported yesterday: Disabled Player Exception valued at $4.15M for Ryan Anderson

[crc21209]

I can't attest to the source, although @ORLMagicStuff claims the guy has "nailed" a few trades in the past:
RT @IBNincarcerated (https://twitter.com/IBNincarcerated) 6m (https://twitter.com/IBNincarcerated/status/436248428776259585) **UPDATED NBA RUMORS**Source: Spurs & Magic discussing deal that would send Afflalo to San Antonio (Bobcats also involved heavy)



Damn. That would be a good pickup for the Spurs IMO. Any combo of Ayres, Baynes, Bonner, De Colo, or Joseph. Everyone else is untouchable...

[look_at_g_shred]

Wish we could just get a straight forward statement saying Spurs are going to do something or they are not. I'm tired of bogus ass rumors.

[Mugen]

Wish we could just get a straight forward statement saying Spurs are going to do something or they are not. I'm tired of bogus ass rumors.

:lol that doesn't make much sense especially since it takes two teams to make a trade.

[look_at_g_shred]

:lol that doesn't make much sense especially since it takes two teams to make a trade.
In a way yeah but...... I guess it's just best to assume the Spurs are not going to do anything.

[Chinook]

Damn. That would be a good pickup for the Spurs IMO. Any combo of Ayres, Baynes, Bonner, De Colo, or Joseph. Everyone else is untouchable...

Doesn't make sense. Afflalo would arguably be the overall best wing on the roster (in a vacuum). He'd probably start or at least be the sixth man. At least one of Beli, Green or Leonard would HAVE to go out in either this trade or another for this move to make sense.

[palangi]

Doesn't make sense. Afflalo would arguably be the overall best wing on the roster (in a vacuum). He'd probably start or at least be the sixth man. At least one of Beli, Green or Leonard would HAVE to go out in either this trade or another for this move to make sense.
exactly we are so overloaded with 2 guards and PG's. something has to give if we do this.

[ace3g]

What if Afflalo isn't the target (possibly going to Bobcats), maybe Spurs are looking at Tobias Harris/Gerald Henderson/ etc; sometimes "sources" get the teams and names right but not who goes where.

[Mugen]

I guess it's just best to assume the Spurs are not going to do anything.

That's always the best course of action when you're dealing with the Spurs.

[bklynspursfan]

Green did tweet out earlier "Trade rumors are always very interesting" maybe he's involved?

https://twitter.com/DGreen_14/status/436202299090677760

BTW I don't buy that report by any means, just throwing wood into the fire lol

[RD2191]

131 guests? I see you Chris Broussard.

[Jwash_1986]

In a way yeah but...... I guess it's just best to assume the Spurs are not going to do anything.
Motherfuckas always got to reply with some smart ass comment huh kinfolk?

[ElNono]

131 guests? I see you Chris Broussard.

http://dailysnark.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/multiple-sources.gif

[look_at_g_shred]

You know what's funny? Is that if a viable source confirms a rumor about the Spurs, a thread is made for it rather than talking about it in here lol Random thought.

[palangi]

What if Afflalo isn't the target (possibly going to Bobcats), maybe Spurs are looking at Tobias Harris/Gerald Henderson/ etc; sometimes "sources" get the teams and names right but not who goes where.
true and charlotte is trying to dump biambo as well. I would take him on. maybe make ayers apart of the package.

[look_at_g_shred]

Motherfuckas always got to reply with some smart ass comment huh kinfolk?
Yup! Sup Jwash?

[SpurPadre]

That's always the best course of action when you're dealing with the Spurs.

Before the RRT, Pop explained why he was bringing along the injured players to be at each of the games on the trip and to me, he pretty much tipped his hand as to them not planning on ANY trades. He said "We've got a lot of away games. It's a great time to come together and get the bunker mentality, and all that trade crap away."

[r0drig0lac]

[QUOTE = ace3g; 7142557] E se Afflalo não é o alvo (possivelmente vai Bobcats), talvez Spurs estão olhando para Tobias Harris / Gerald Henderson / etc, às vezes "fontes" obter as equipes e os nomes direito, mas não quem vai para onde . [/ QUOTE]


well you (and us all) would

[RD2191]

http://dailysnark.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/multiple-sources.gif
:lmao

[eDizzle20]

What if Afflalo isn't the target (possibly going to Bobcats), maybe Spurs are looking at Tobias Harris/Gerald Henderson/ etc; sometimes "sources" get the teams and names right but not who goes where.

Getting Tobias Harris would be pretty sweet, but I strongly doubt the Magic would want to trade him away given his potential and rookie contract. Afflalo is definitely a player that would help the Spurs on the offensive end. Parker struggled mightily in games 6 and 7 in the Finals last season, but the Spurs did not have another player to run the offense through for long stretches. Afflalo can score off of screens and iso so I would be welcome to bring him in. I would imagine the Magic would want something like Green/Bonner/2014 1st rounder/maybe rights to international prospect.

[Chinook]

What if Afflalo isn't the target (possibly going to Bobcats), maybe Spurs are looking at Tobias Harris/Gerald Henderson/ etc; sometimes "sources" get the teams and names right but not who goes where.

I could see trying to get Harris or Harkless. Mo especially could be a pretty good project. But I can't see Henderson being of use. He's athletic enough to play some three, but at a sub-Green level. I'd rather go for a bigger wing.

[Jwash_1986]

Yup! Sup Jwash?
Just got off work mane. I had to login and check the latest on my Spurs.

[ace3g]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bg3n7UeCQAAtudC.jpg:large

[cd98]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bg3n7UeCQAAtudC.jpg:large

Amazing. Both guys are famous for punching opponents in the nuts. Better wear a cup when you are playing against these two.

[cd98]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cv1cBN8M-9I

[Chinook]

After really looking at it, I'd totally do Nando and a first for Harkless.

[szkorhetz]

After really looking at it, I'd totally do Nando and a first for Harkless.
Why the fuck would they do this, TBH?

[ThomasamohT]

Just a thought, no link, not even a connection that this is even being considered...

But I read somewhere that the Knicks might move Tyson Chandler. I know he's old but what about Tiago for Chandler. The deal works straight up and would help align the Spurs into EVERY contract expiring in 2 years. Also because it's the Knicks, we might even be able to steal Hardaway Jr. for our first round pick.

[Libri]

^ Knicks are looking for a point guard.

[ace3g]

Matt Moore CBS @MattMooreCBS
(https://twitter.com/MattMooreCBS)Report: Bobcats targeting Arron Afflalo, Anthony Morrow cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-bas… (http://t.co/22saly8xqH)

[crc21209]

Matt Moore CBS @MattMooreCBS
(https://twitter.com/MattMooreCBS)Report: Bobcats targeting Arron Afflalo, Anthony Morrow cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-bas… (http://t.co/22saly8xqH)



Damn it. Afflalo would just go to waste on a shit team like the Bobcats....

[timtonymanu]

Damn it. Afflalo would just go to waste on a shit team like the Bobcats....

Better than going to the Thunder or any other contender.

[coachmac87]

If Spurs land Afflao...Kawhi will play a lot of PF..which he did pretty good in the Finals

[Chinook]

Why the fuck would they do this, TBH?

Ace mentioned a the Spurs might try to facilitate an Afflalo deal for a wing. Harkless the is the combination of being something the Spurs want and not being integral to his team. Mo is the fourth wing at best this season. I think the Spurs would win a trade of Harkless for a pick, but it wouldn't be a travesty.

[Kyuui-Musikq]

shut up faggot


Theres es worse things then being a fag. For instance having pictures of underage girls as your sig you fucking pedophile.

[MaNu4Tres]

In regards to the Affalo rumors, it just makes no sense for Spurs unless Green or Beli are involved.

Not enough minutes at the wing for 4 starting/6th man caliber shooting guards and Leonard-- especially in a shortened playoff rotation.

[DPG21920]

If Leonard can/will be playing PF in small ball lineups it makes plenty of sense to me. The only real issue is Spurs have very little assets they are willing to part with.

I am shocked, for a team that supposedly is so open to trades, that Denver has not been mentioned in anything.

[MaNu4Tres]

Ace mentioned a the Spurs might try to facilitate an Afflalo deal for a wing. Harkless the is the combination of being something the Spurs want and not being integral to his team. Mo is the fourth wing at best this season. I think the Spurs would win a trade of Harkless for a pick, but it wouldn't be a travesty.

I wouldn't give up a pick for Harkless. He's an unproven commodity when it comes to the playoffs. Sure he would provide depth at the SF, but would he really see minutes over Manu, Beli, and Green in the playoffs? No he would not-- he would most likely fill the T-Mac role from last year. Not worth giving up a 1st in next year's deep draft. Would rather keep the 1st and have a nice prospect from the BEGINNING of his cheap rookie deal.

[DrunkTXLabrat]

What if Afflalo isn't the target (possibly going to Bobcats), maybe Spurs are looking at Tobias Harris/Gerald Henderson/ etc; sometimes "sources" get the teams and names right but not who goes where.
Andrew Nicholson?

[MaNu4Tres]

Only way I think it's necessary for Spurs to give up a 1st is if the player is an absolute filler into the 8-9 man playoff rotation (Ilyasova, Young, Affalo).

[Chinook]

Only way I think it's necessary for Spurs to give up a 1st is if the player is an absolute filler into the 8-9 man playoff rotation (Ilyasova, Young, Affalo).

Harkless has two years left after this one and is a better prospect than the team can realistically hope to draft. In that regard, it'd be an awesome investment. Also, it's not likely a late first is going to make or break the Spurs' ability to trade for Ersan. Young and Afflalo aren't going to happen. They just aren't.

[MaNu4Tres]

Harkless has two years left after this one and is a better prospect than the team can realistically hope to draft. In that regard, it'd be an awesome investment. Also, it's not likely a late first is going to make or break the Spurs' ability to trade for Ersan. Young and Afflalo aren't going to happen. They just aren't.

Of course just a late first won't be enough.

As you know, for a rebuilding team on the way to the lottery (Bucks, Sixers, Magic all qualify), the smart GM's usually have the desire to part with their most expensive non-building blocks (players who are good/ but not good enough to build around).

What they look for in exchange are expiring(s)(most important), a prospect and pick(s).

How many picks is dependent on how great the player is and I don't think either Ersan, Young or Affalo warrant more than 1 pick. On contenders, these 3 players are just good, yet overpaid, role players. Don't inflate their value just by admiring their stats on their crap teams. Good players, but overpaid.

In regards to Harkless, I disagree. Spurs tend to draft really well and their draft picks' salary next year will be about half of Harkless' salary-- which is relevant considering how diligent and disciplined Spurs are about their cap. Not to mention, Spurs have a lot invested in Bertans and Livio-Jean Charles-- one of them has a great chance to be brought over next year. And both play the same position as Harkless.

[ace3g]

Mike Ganter @Mike_Ganter
(https://twitter.com/Mike_Ganter)Taj Gibson replaces Mike Dunleavy as starting small forward for Bulls tonight. TRoss is going to have his hands full.


Caleb Nordgren @chisportsguy41
(https://twitter.com/chisportsguy41)Get it together, guys. RT @KCJHoop (https://twitter.com/KCJHoop/): When Raptors PA announcer called Taj Gibson in lineup, Mike Dunleavy ran out. So stay tuned.

[Chinook]

Triple Towers!

[look_at_g_shred]

Ayres for Coach Bud tbh..

[ThomasamohT]

^ Knicks are looking for a point guard.

Toss in Patty and you know they'd give us a first rounder.

[ace3g]

Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine
(https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine)Latest Knicks buzz: Hearing Knicks' long-running chase of Kenneth Faried now trending toward simpler swap of Beno Udrih for Jordan Hamilton

[monkeypunk]

Ayres for Coach Bud tbh..

Sold!

[ace3g]

Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine
(https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine)Which would suggest Knicks & Clips getting closer to THEIR deal now that Matt Barnes expected to take Reggie Bullock's place in final form

[Chinook]

That's better.

[DesignatedT]

What time is the deadline at tomorrow?

[timtonymanu]

What time is the deadline at tomorrow?

12:00 PM PT

[DesignatedT]

Thx

[Spur|n|Austin]

Ayres for Coach Bud tbh..

:lol

[Dex]

12:00 PM PT

12 PM? so noon?

[look_at_g_shred]

12 PM? so noon?
2 pm central time

[timtonymanu]

Yeah sorry I forgot I was looking at Pacific time.

[DPG21920]

436297084841754624

[Dex]

2 pm central time

Find it weird that it's at mid-day like that, but what do I know.

[Dex]

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[Mugen]

:lol how reliable is that NBA2KGames twitter

[Dex]

Could be talking 2K trades for all I know. :lol

[Spurs_Be_Beastin']

:lol 2k

[Mugen]

Could be talking 2K trades for all I know. :lol

:lol my first reaction as well.

Afflalo would have been nice but if it mean trading away Green then the move would have been irrelevant IMO. Unless i'm overrating Afflalo, Orland could probably do better than a couple of expirings and a low 1st rounder from the Spurs.

[Chinook]

:lol my first reaction as well.

Afflalo would have been nice but if it mean trading away Green then the move would have been irrelevant IMO. Unless i'm overrating Afflalo, Orland could probably do better than a couple of expirings and a low 1st rounder from the Spurs.

If they win the lottery Afflalo is a great player to keep around. But at the same time, Oladipo is a two-guard, and Wiggins is a three so Afflalo (or at least Harris and Harkless) is kind of out of place. They need a good PG and PF. If Affalo can help them get a star at those positions, he should be traded.

[Hoops Czar]

436298225171980288


These rumors aren't going to be uncommon. I think we'll hold onto our player for a little while longer; Spurs were interested in tradig for said player. I guess you can cross Orlando off the list of teams willing to take negative value in a trade for a productive complimentary player.

[Bruno]

So far, no true rumors regarding Spurs.

While it's usual that no leaks come from Spurs, there are also no leaks coming from teams Spurs are talking too. It hints Spurs are only talking trade with a very limited number of teams. Heck, this limited number could even be 0...

[itzsoweezee]

I don't understand why all of these rumors suggest the Spurs are looking for another wing player. The Spurs don't need a wing, they need another big. Baynes, Ayres, and Bonner aren't going to cut it. Splitter, Duncan, and Diaw can't play all of the frontline minutes.

[ace3g]

WojBomb

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA
(https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA)The Lakers are in advanced talks on a deal to send Steve Blake to Golden State, league source tells Yahoo Sports.

[AFBlue]

Splitter, Duncan, and Diaw can't play all of the frontline minutes.

Actually in the playoffs they likely will play all of the minutes.

[ace3g]

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Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA
(https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA)Golden State expected to send Kent Bazemore and MarShon Brooks to the Lakers for Blake, league source tells Yahoo Sports.

[Chinook]

WojBomb

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA
(https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA)The Lakers are in advanced talks on a deal to send Steve Blake to Golden State, league source tells Yahoo Sports.



They better not give LA an assets.

[loveforthegame]

Weird trade for the Warriors. I thought they were happy with Crawford at backup point. Blake is solid and they didn't give anything up so whatever.

[exstatic]

They better not give LA an assets.

Look up one post. :lol Two shooting guards to sit behind Kobe...

[DPG21920]

Inches LA a little closer to no LT payment

[Chinook]

Look up one post. :lol Two shooting guards to sit behind Kobe...

Yeah, Ace and I posted simultaneously. I'm just glad it wasn't Barnes or Klay.

[Spursfanfromafar]

So far, no true rumors regarding Spurs.

While it's usual that no leaks come from Spurs, there are also no leaks coming from teams Spurs are talking too. It hints Spurs are only talking trade with a very limited number of teams. Heck, this limited number could even be 0...

Or if the Spurs are talking to the Jazz, an even more hermetically sealed organisation.

[ace3g]

Ken Berger @KBergCBS
(https://twitter.com/KBergCBS)Meanwhile, the Knicks' Iman Shumpert has sprained his surgically repaired left knee tonight in New Orleans (via @FisolaNYDN (https://twitter.com/FisolaNYDN/)).

[Spursfanfromafar]

How is the LA-GS trade being made possible? MarShon Brooks can't be traded alongside another player, can he? Atleast ESPN Trade machine says so -

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ma33dcd

[loveforthegame]

How is the LA-GS trade being made possible? MarShon Brooks can't be traded alongside another player, can he? Atleast ESPN Trade machine says so -

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ma33dcd

Maybe 2 different trades? Not sure. I haven't looked at the numbers.

[Spursfanfromafar]

Ken Berger @KBergCBS
(https://twitter.com/KBergCBS)Meanwhile, the Knicks' Iman Shumpert has sprained his surgically repaired left knee tonight in New Orleans (via @FisolaNYDN (https://twitter.com/FisolaNYDN/)).



Meanwhile, the Knicks' Iman Shumpert has conveniently sprained his surgically repaired left knee tonight in New Orleans.

FIFY.

[cd021]

Ken Berger @KBergCBS
(https://twitter.com/KBergCBS)Meanwhile, the Knicks' Iman Shumpert has sprained his surgically repaired left knee tonight in New Orleans (via @FisolaNYDN (https://twitter.com/FisolaNYDN/)).



Can't pass physical? That sucks.

[Spursfanfromafar]

Maybe 2 different trades? Not sure. I haven't looked at the numbers.

Possible. Good trade for the Warriors. Bazemore and Brooks were basically useless scrubs. Moves Lakers closer to not paying luxury tax meanwhile, if they can get more deals done by deadline.

[exstatic]

How is the LA-GS trade being made possible? MarShon Brooks can't be traded alongside another player, can he? Atleast ESPN Trade machine says so -

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ma33dcd


Maybe 2 different trades? Not sure. I haven't looked at the numbers.
Sometimes two teams will work 2 concurrent trades. It could be one player for Blake, and another into an LA trade exception.

[ace3g]

Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine
(https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine)ESPN has learned Cavs are in talks w/Sacramento on deal to swap Jarrett Jack for Jason Thompson. BUT Cavs looking for third team to route JT

[BatManu20]

Jason Thompson's contract is a little long imo, but still would be an immediate upgrade over Ayers.

[exstatic]

Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine
(https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine)ESPN has learned Cavs are in talks w/Sacramento on deal to swap Jarrett Jack for Jason Thompson. BUT Cavs looking for third team to route JT



Yes, please.

[Chinook]

How is the LA-GS trade being made possible? MarShon Brooks can't be traded alongside another player, can he? Atleast ESPN Trade machine says so -

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ma33dcd

Blake for Bazemore using a GS TE. That gives LA a TE to use on Brooks.

[loveforthegame]

Would love to get JT but not going to happen.

[Dex]

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[exstatic]

If Cleveland is just looking to dump Jack's awful contract, Bonner back to them works. :lol

[heyheymymy]

if we don't make a trade would the next step be looking at players getting waived? what are some of those possible options?

[ElNono]

Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine
(https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine)ESPN has learned Cavs are in talks w/Sacramento on deal to swap Jarrett Jack for Jason Thompson. BUT Cavs looking for third team to route JT



:lol Cavs dumping Jack already...
:lol Spursfan that wanted him here...

[Chinook]

Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine
(https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine)ESPN has learned Cavs are in talks w/Sacramento on deal to swap Jarrett Jack for Jason Thompson. BUT Cavs looking for third team to route JT



Thompson would make a great fourth big. His contract isn't a big deal, since Duncan is making way less than he should. But the Spurs need a combo-forward. Hopefully, they'd get one in the deal.

[cjw]

Actually in the playoffs they likely will play all of the minutes.

Exactly, they can all play 32 minutes on average. If you can get closer to 35, can have minimal time where you don't have Kawhi plus those three manning all the front court minutes (Diaw can play some at the 3 against certain lineups).

[ace3g]

Yes, please.

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ka7v37u

[Mugen]

Might as well try to get CJ Miles from Cleveland as well tbh.

[DPG21920]

I'm with Bruno: it's really odd to not hear anything Spurs related at all from any sort of credible source. What makes it even more strange is that there was some noise with regards to the Spurs "being active" well before the deadline.

[exstatic]

Might as well try to get CJ Miles from Cleveland as well tbh.

Don't get greedy. If you can flip Bonner for J Thompson, you do a Billy Bean and hang up the phone. You've heard the answer you want.

[BatManu20]

Looks like Pau's staying put

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[Chinook]

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ka7v37u

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ltpeo2p

[exstatic]

Looks like Pau's staying put



For the remainder of the season, anyway. They have to renounce him to get cap room, so his ticket is punched in July. He'll be wearing a different uniform next year.

[outmap]

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ka7v37u


http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ltpeo2p

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=kszotyk

[Chinook]

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=kszotyk

Terrible trade.

[Spursfanfromafar]

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ltpeo2p

Good trade.

An easier alternate - http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=kfdvb6c

[Baam]

Gonna play as well :

Cavs : Stiffler + Spurs' 2014 first
Kings : Jack
Spurs : Thompson + Bennett

[Chinook]

Good trade.

An easier alternate - http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=kfdvb6c

Simpler, but against the CBA. Acy has to be traded by hiumself. I don't see a way to break it out into a separate trade with those components. Shame too. I really like Acy.

EDIT: Baam informed me Acy's restricted period has ended. Your trade is good to go. I like it a lot.

[DPG21920]

Simpler, but against the CBA. Acy has to be traded by himself. I don't see a way to break it out into a separate trade with those components. Shame too. I really like Acy.

Are you sure. I'm confused by that rule. I think as long as you don't aggregate Acy's salary in order to take back more in a trade he can be traded in a single trade with another player.

[Baam]

I think the restriction of having to be traded by himself expired a few days ago.

[Chinook]

Are you sure. I'm confused by that rule. I think as long as you don't aggregate Acy's salary in order to take back more in a trade he can be traded in a single trade with another player.

He can. But in that example, he was traded with Thompson for Jack (from Sac's perspective).

[Chinook]

I think the restriction of having to be traded by himself expired a few days ago.

Really? Cool. Thanks for the info.

[Spursfanfromafar]

He can. But in that example, he was traded with Thompson for Jack (from Sac's perspective).

ESPN Trade machine actually takes this trade rule into account. In Acy's case, it says the only caveat is he can't be reacquired by Toronto and says nothing about being traded separately. Odd.

[Chinook]

ESPN Trade machine actually takes this trade rule into account. In Acy's case, it says the only caveat is he can't be reacquired by Toronto and says nothing about being traded separately. Odd.

Yeah. I justed edited my post. His restricted period just ended. Good trade.

[SpurPadre]

The moderator might as well cross out the title in this thread because there will be no trade in all likelihood.

[ace3g]

The moderator might as well cross out the title in this thread because there will be no trade in all likelihood.

Then we can start the waiver deadline thread!!!

[Leetonidas]

Theres es worse things then being a fag. For instance having pictures of underage girls as your sig you fucking pedophile.

pedophiles like prepubescent children you dumbfuck

[SpurPadre]

Then we can start the waiver deadline thread!!!
Yeah but I was thinking more of a ''Shannon Brown as a Spur countdown'' thread. Or maybe a ''Josh Howard watch'' thread.

[Spursfanfromafar]

Then we can start the waiver deadline thread!!!

I also suspect there is more for the Spurs at the waiver deadline than at the trade deadline.

[loveforthegame]

Then we can start the waiver deadline thread!!!

That's pretty much what we can expect from the Spurs.

[ace3g]

Nando played tonight...

[Chinook]

Nando played tonight...

I wonder if Nando requested a trade, and the Spurs have been sitting him while they try to accommodate that request. So since they don't really want to move him, they played him when they really needed to.

[ace3g]

Ken Berger @KBergCBS
(https://twitter.com/KBergCBS)Unable to secure a 1st-round pick in a deal for Evan Turner, Sixers may now take a 2nd as part of package for '10 No. 2 pick, sources say.

[cjw]

Nando played tonight...

Was thinking that it could have meant something with Brown taking all those minutes, but I guess I was wrong once he checked in.

[BatManu20]

Ken Berger @KBergCBS
(https://twitter.com/KBergCBS)Unable to secure a 1st-round pick in a deal for Evan Turner, Sixers may now take a 2nd as part of package for '10 No. 2 pick, sources say.



It's settled then. Bonner and a 2nd rounder for Evan Turner. Make it happen, R.C.

[exstatic]

It's settled then. Bonner and a 2nd rounder for Evan Turner. Make it happen, R.C.

Turner sucks.

[dbestpro]

The hole is the 4th big. The best solution would be to find a combo PF/SF. Ayers is just a disaster.

[BatManu20]

Turner sucks.

He's a poor defender who needs the ball in his hands too much, but saying he sucks is a stretch imo. I was kidding anyways, but it sounds like the Sixers are willing to part with him for cheap. Wouldn't hurt to listen while the deadline clock winds down tbh.

[Chinook]

Turner sucks.

Seriously. Although it wouldn't be that bad if it were basically for free.

[cd021]

The hole is the 4th big. The best solution would be to find a combo PF/SF. Ayers is just a disaster.

If Okafor doesn't get moved, he could be brought out. A solid big man when healthy. For 15 minutes a game ,on a vet min., I'd take him.

[exstatic]

If Okafor doesn't get moved, he could be brought out. A solid big man when healthy. For 15 minutes a game ,on a vet min., I'd take him.

Okafor is out indefinitely with a neck injury. Any trade talk is just for his contract, which is 80% insured. I doubt they even attempt a buyout if they can't trade him.

[Raven]

trade patty now, his value can't be higher imho.

[Russ]

If Okafor doesn't get moved, he could be brought out. A solid big man when healthy. For 15 minutes a game ,on a vet min., I'd take him.

That might be too good to be true.

[Chinook]

Ken Berger @KBergCBS
(https://twitter.com/KBergCBS)Unable to secure a 1st-round pick in a deal for Evan Turner, Sixers may now take a 2nd as part of package for '10 No. 2 pick, sources say.



Makes you wonder what the hell Charlotte was offering.

[exstatic]

That might be too good to be true.

He's OUT indefinitely.. He was diagnosed in September with a herniated disc in his neck and hasn't played one game this year.

[BatManu20]

Makes you wonder what the hell Charlotte was offering.

Apparently Charlotte's moved on to Gary Neal as their next target :lol

[Chinook]

Apparently Charlotte's moved on to Gary Neal as their next target..

Yeah, because they couldn't get Turner. But apparently they didn't even offer a pick for him. What did they expect Philly to take?

[Spursfanfromafar]

If Turner can be had for such a low offer, it presents the Spurs with a conundrum. Polarizing player... has talent to do many things, but lacks flourish or discipline. Can certainly be a bench add-on but could also turn out to be a numskull. Maybe the Spurs can flip him in a three-team trade for someone more useful?

[Spursfanfromafar]

Three team trades are difficult and almost never happen. Besides, the Spurs hardly make trades, let alone three team ones.

But if they can flip Turner for Marvin Williams and get a second rounder to go to the Sixers, wouldn't it work? - http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=lxduu86

[spurraider21]

i don't understand the aversion to Evan Turner

[SpurPadre]

Apparently Charlotte's moved on to Gary Neal as their next target :lol
Neal? They can have him and maybe MJ can pull him aside after one of his chucktastic games and bitch slap him while telling him he is no MJ.

[SpurPadre]

i don't understand the aversion to Evan Turner
Some of us are conditioned not to like athletic players thanks to POP.

[cd021]

Okafor is out indefinitely with a neck injury. Any trade talk is just for his contract, which is 80% insured. I doubt they even attempt a buyout if they can't trade him.

I've read earlier that he could return by then end of the season. Apparently not, that's too bad.

[Chinook]

i don't understand the aversion to Evan Turner

I don't hate him. He's just not a fit. I'd take him for free, but he solves exactly zero problems.

[cd021]

i don't understand the aversion to Evan Turner

Turner has been a negative impact player every season in the NBA. A shot chucker as well. High volume score, and can't shoot the 3. A poor defender too.

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[SpurPadre]

I'd rather have thad young over turner, tbh.

[spurraider21]

not that i think Evan Turner is the savior, but he's a solid player and could thrive in a reduced role

[BatManu20]

Yeah, because they couldn't get Turner. But apparently they didn't even offer a pick for him. What did they expect Philly to take?

No idea.

But The Sixers have made it apparent they're not going to re-sign Evans, and they're not going to get a good draft pick for him, because no team wants to give up their pick in this year's draft because it's being expected to be so deep. So, it only makes sense that they trade him for something, anything, rather than just let him walk. As the clock winds down, I think they'll end up moving him. If he could be had for a 2nd rounder and one of our lower tier players, I think'd it'd be dumb not to pull the trigger tbh. Rather do that than completely stand pat at this point. He's a FA after this season anyways so you're really not risking much.

[letmk]

The urgent need is to have someone who can play 15 minutes behind Kawhi and stay with LeBron and Durant (Forget even contain, let alone defend well). And of course, any upgrade in the front-court is welcome.

[szkorhetz]

Ace mentioned a the Spurs might try to facilitate an Afflalo deal for a wing. Harkless the is the combination of being something the Spurs want and not being integral to his team. Mo is the fourth wing at best this season. I think the Spurs would win a trade of Harkless for a pick, but it wouldn't be a travesty.

I meant the Magic. This draft is stong but not deep. With our 25-28 Pick the Magic wont draft a player anywhere near Harkless.

[Chinook]

I meant the Magic. This draft is stong but not deep. With our 25-28 Pick the Magic wont draft a player anywhere near Harkless.

Sure, but they have a major logjam at the wing that will only get worse when Oladipo starts playing his natural position.

[Baam]

Last few hours before the deadline...

Would sell high on Mills but as a rental I don't believe he's worth that much... He's more or less in the same situation as Isaiah Thomas right now (who is more of a point) and Nate Robinson last year (more athletic, don't see Mills blocking Lebron in his lifetime)...

Something like Mills + De Colo for Copeland would be great for instance.

Mills is good for the price but he won't get to chuck 30 shots in the POs tbh and it's not even clear he's gonna be worth the money he's gonna get (see Robinson who was actually impressive in the POs)...

[Spursfanfromafar]

Last few hours before the deadline...

Would sell high on Mills but as a rental I don't believe he's worth that much... He's more or less in the same situation as Isaiah Thomas right now (who is more of a point) and Nate Robinson last year (more athletic, don't see Mills blocking Lebron in his lifetime)...

Something like Mills + De Colo for Copeland would be great for instance.

Mills is good for the price but he won't get to chuck 30 shots in the POs tbh and it's not even clear he's gonna be worth the money he's gonna get (see Robinson who was actually impressive in the POs)...

Please change your display name to Baad..

[exstatic]

Please change your display name to Baad..

Troof bombs. :lol

[Baam]

Crackpot idea just because I'm bored and because it rustles the jimmies of the idiots who take every trade proposal as a personal insult :lol.

Kawhi + Splitter for MKG + Zeller + unprotected 2014 first (top 10 at the moment)

[Baam]

Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine (https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine) 39m (https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine/status/436481277114318850)
Hearing Bobcats continue to press for Bucks G Gary Neal and trying before deadline in 7+ hours to sell MILW on Ramon Sessions-for-Neal deal

[jyra]

Informative breakdown of the Blake - Brooks/Bazemore trade by Mark Deeks:

http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2014/2/20/5428672/steve-blake-trade-lakers-warriors-cba-analysis

It explains why Brooks could be traded along with another player.

[exstatic]

Crackpot idea

You could have just stopped right there and been spot on...

[look_at_g_shred]

Only reason why I would except Turner on this team is because the guy can get his own shot. That's something we are going to need in the playoffs when the offense becomes stagnant. A 2nd line-up of Diaw + Turner + Manu + Marco +Patty is very interesting.

[look_at_g_shred]

You could have just stopped right there and been spot on...
lololol

[MaNu4Tres]

Yeah, because they couldn't get Turner. But apparently they didn't even offer a pick for him. What did they expect Philly to take?

It's not surprising, tbh.

Philly doesn't have the leverage, nor does L.A (Gasol) or Houston (Asik). When it's known that a team has no plans in keeping a player, usually the opposing teams carry all the leverage in potential trades. Teams usually offer the bare minimum, knowing their adversaries' desperation to get rid of the player.

Why is this? Teams are finally getting smarter-- teams are aware that it's better getting anything opposed to nothing if the player is in his last year of his contract, so they tend to try to offer the least valuable and relevant offer possible.

Teams trying to get rid of expendable bad contracts (good, overpaid players), or unwanted players in the last year of their contracts never have leverage in trades anymore.

[Baam]

Only reason why I would except Turner on this team is because the guy can get his own shot. That's something we are going to need in the playoffs when the offense becomes stagnant. A 2nd line-up of Diaw + Turner + Manu + Marco +Patty is very interesting.

The second unit is already getting murdered by OKC's bench and you want to play Turner (who gets owned defensively by the like of Nash) at PF...

[look_at_g_shred]

The second unit is already getting murdered by OKC's bench and you want to play Turner (who gets owned defensively by the like of Nash) at PF...
From the guy who insists on trading our second best defender.....

And yeah why not? As long as it works to get us to the WCF. We'll worry about match-ups when we get to OKC.

[Kineto]

what about this : http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=kcf4sk9

Washington looking for a backup PG
Charlotte looking for 3pt specialist
SA looking for bakup SF

win-win-win ?

[Spursfanfromafar]

Troof bombs. :lol

The fellow is the worst buffoon on this board when it comes to trade suggestions :)

[Baam]

The fellow is the worst buffoon on this board when it comes to trade suggestions :)

It's always a pleasure to rustle your jimmies tbh :lmao

:cry another poster wants to trade my favorite scrub

[DesignatedT]

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[Mel_13]

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He won't cost anything more than the vet min in the summer.

[Richie]

Woj saying Fredette can be had for a 2nd rounder. I'd do Nando + 2014 2nd for Jimmer. We aren't losing anything of real value and at least Jimmer is a lights out shooter.

Not saying Fredette will actually be useful, but I'd be wary of writing off anyone who has been stuck on that horrible Kings team

[bklynspursfan]

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA (https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA) 2m (https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/436513582004854784)
Philadelphia has traded Spencer Hawes to Cleveland, league source tells Yahoo Sports.


Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA (https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA) 1m (https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/436513848468963328)
Philadelphia will receive two second round picks from Cavs for Hawes, league source tells Yahoo Sports.

[DesignatedT]

Hawes for 2 second rounders?

[DPG21920]

Wow - pretty cheap. Hopefully this opens the flood gates in Philly and Spurs can somehow swoop Young.

[Mel_13]

Cavs overpaid.

[Chinook]

Good trade for Cleveland. Still need to get a legitimate wing like Afflalo, though.

[Richie]

Hawes for 2 second rounders?

Thats a bargain for Cleveland. I wish the Spurs had explored that trade as a Bonner replacement

[Baam]

2 early second rounders from Cleveland may be better than our late first tho... I would have liked him but wouldn't have traded much for him.

[DPG21920]

There has to be more too it - Cavs payroll is at 63M. They can't just absorb Hawes and his 6.6M.

Also, as many stated, PHI is way under the payroll minimum. They need to take on salary.

[DPG21920]

I wonder if Jack, AV or Bennett were involved..

[bklynspursfan]

Brett Poirier NBA ‏@BrettNBA (https://twitter.com/BrettNBA) 26s (https://twitter.com/BrettNBA/status/436519094230482944)
This CLE/PHI trade still doesn't work in the books. Cavs have to be sending a player (Clark or Gee likely) or must involve a third team.

[Chinook]

There has to be more too it - Cavs payroll is at 63M. They can't just absorb Hawes and his 6.6M.

Also, as many stated, PHI is way under the payroll minimum. They need to take on salary.

Probably for Clark. He's basically an expiring.

EDIT: mini-confirmation from the above post.

[DPG21920]

Getting Clark would make sense positionally if they are also moving Young.

[bklynspursfan]

Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine (https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine) 30s (https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine/status/436521187527512064)
Hearing: Wizards -- who tried to acquire Luol Deng from Bulls at last NBA Draft -- are among teams in Deadline Day talks with Cavs on Deng

[DPG21920]

Interesting considering they have so many well performing Wings. Maybe that opens up a chance for SA to step in too..

[bklynspursfan]

^That's what I'm hoping. Wishful thinking though I bet lol

[Chinook]

Interesting considering they have so many well performing Wings. Maybe that opens up a chance for SA to step in too..

I doubt the Wizards deal Porter, or that Cleveland wants Webster. The question is whether the Cavs want Ariza for the rest of the season or whether they'd be willing to deal him for the right price. I don't want the team to give up a first for a rental.

[Prime Time]

I have no idea why so many people are eager to trade Leonard.

Kawhi is a very interesting player on ST. Some people treat him like he's an easily-replaceable, expandable small forward (How quickly we all forgot RJ) while others claim he's the next LeBron. There's rarely a middle ground.

[palangi]

I would really like to see singleton and vesely come in. get rid of bonner and decolo.

singleton is a good backup SF that can play PF at 6'9" and vesely is a young 7'er that could really learn here in san antonio. he has good athleticism too. But both bring youth, length, and athleticism.

[Chinook]

I have no idea why so many people are eager to trade Leonard.

Kawhi is a very interesting player on ST. Some people treat him like he's an easily-replaceable, expandable small forward (How quickly we all forgot RJ) while others claim he's the next LeBron. There's rarely a middle ground.

Did you just come out of a time capsule from last week? No one's mentioned Leonard recently.

[Chinook]

De Colo for MWP.

[Kyuui-Musikq]

pedophiles like prepubescent children you dumbfuck

Yeah I'm the dumb fuck. Go spend some quality time pretending your a Sayain in your backyard. Just don't invite the neighborhood children

[Spursfanfromafar]

436530396197818369

Good call, Chinook

[look_at_g_shred]

a 2nd for Lavoy Allen tbh..

[Chinook]

436530396197818369

Good call, Chinook
Clark instantly becomes my favorite buyout candidate.

[DPG21920]

I would absolutely give up a first rounder for a rental if it meant getting Deng just for this year.

[ace3g]

Brian Windhorst @WindhorstESPN
(https://twitter.com/WindhorstESPN)The Heat have been aggressively trying to move Roger Mason to open a roster spot and may have found a taker.

[look_at_g_shred]

Thunder? ^

[ace3g]

Ken Berger @KBergCBS
(https://twitter.com/KBergCBS)Sacramento has agreed to acquire Roger Mason Jr. from the Heat, but is expected to waive him, league source says. #howu (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23howu)

[Chinook]

I would absolutely give up a first rounder for a rental if it meant getting Deng just for this year.

Yeah, but that's not going to happen for salary reasons. It would have to be Ariza/Webster.

[Captivus]

I would try to get the Jimmer...

[bklynspursfan]

Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine (https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine) 1m (https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine/status/436537243163844609)
Heat is expected to receive a highly protected SAC second-round pick to complete the swap for Mason that will most likely never be conveyed

[Spursfanfromafar]

Yeah, but that's not going to happen for salary reasons. It would have to be Ariza/Webster.

Ariza would be a fantastic add. Doubt if the Wiz will give him up. They might mostly push for Webster, who I think is not a bad option either, but is more one dimensional as 3 & average D. Has an expensive contract to boot. Perhaps, on par with Turner all things considered.

[Spursfanfromafar]

Heat are clearing a roster spot to trade for a more useful player by waiving Mason.

[FutureMan]

It's a shame the spurs didn't get into that trade with cavs and philly. I'm on trade machine probably too much but I put this one together a few days ago.
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=kh4qhqu

[ElNono]

no back breaker moves yet... probably a reflection of the tanking season for most teams...

[ace3g]

Ken Berger @KBergCBS
(https://twitter.com/KBergCBS)The Bobcats are closing in on a deal with Milwaukee for Gary Neal, league source says.

[bklynspursfan]

Edit: been Aced

[ElNono]

would be sad to see Gary moved there... that's basically where players' careers go to die...

[bklynspursfan]

would be sad to see Gary moved there... that's basically where players' careers go to die...

Can't imagine it being worse than what he's been going through in Milwaukee

[ace3g]

Brian Windhorst @WindhorstESPN
(https://twitter.com/WindhorstESPN)The Clippers and Cavs have had discussions on trade involving Reggie Bullock for Tyler Zeller, sources told ESPN

[AFBlue]

Not likely that Neal's frustrations dealing with a losing culture will cease with this move.

[Chinook]

Brian Windhorst @WindhorstESPN
(https://twitter.com/WindhorstESPN)The Clippers and Cavs have had discussions on trade involving Reggie Bullock for Tyler Zeller, sources told ESPN





I liked Bullock in the draft. But damn, the Cavs traded three picks for Zeller.

[Dverde]

would be sad to see Gary moved there... that's basically where players' careers go to die...

Last I checked the checks are still clearing in Charlotte. He agreed to go to the Bucks, because they offered him the most money. I feel no sadness for him. At least he gets to see and talk to MJ now.

[HarlemHeat37]

Bobcats have actually been playing solid as of late and they're probably going to make the playoffs, tbh..they desperately need shooting, Tolliver is the only decent shooter on the team, Neal is a very good addition for them, tbh..

[Baam]

The Bobcats have the best rookie coach are most likely gonna make the POs, it's a pretty good upgrade.

[benefactor]

Bobcats have actually been playing solid as of late and they're probably going to make the playoffs, tbh..they desperately need shooting, Tolliver is the only decent shooter on the team, Neal is a very good addition for them, tbh..
:tu

They play hard...especially defensively.

[ElNono]

Last I checked the checks are still clearing in Charlotte. He agreed to go to the Bucks, because they offered him the most money. I feel no sadness for him. At least he gets to see and talk to MJ now.

just wishing well for him... I thought the Clippers might be interested in him with Reddick constantly hurt...

[ace3g]

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA
(https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA)Charlotte, Milwaukee gathering traction on Gary Neal-Ramon Sessions centered deal, sources tell Yahoo. Other pieces would be involved.

[Mel_13]

Charlotte is a major upgrade over Milwaukee, even more so for a guy from Maryland.

[Baam]

Choo Choo vs Indiana or the Heat in the first round makes me way more interested in watching the games tbh. We could also compare to Beli with the Bulls team now that he's gonna play for a great defensive coach, guess if he gets any times it will mean that he's officially an above average defender :lol (that's what the Belipologists said at least since he played for Thibs).

[Mel_13]

Belipologists

8.5/10 on the Fabbs scale

[Clipper Nation]

just wishing well for him... I thought the Clippers might be interested in him with Reddick constantly hurt...
We need a small forward and third big more than a 2 guard, tbh....

[Spursfanfromafar]

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[HarlemHeat37]

I wonder if Dumars will pull a Colangelo and make a desperation, job-dependent move, tbh..

[Mel_13]

Dumars demanding assets for Smith. Good luck with that.

[benefactor]

8.5/10 on the Fabbs scale
:lol

[HarlemHeat37]

Trading Monroe seems obvious to everybody that follows the NBA except for the Pistons front office:lol..

[Spursfanfromafar]

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[benefactor]

Miller looks to be headed to the Wiz for Maynor and Vesley.

[ace3g]

Michael Lee @MrMichaelLee
(https://twitter.com/MrMichaelLee)#wizards (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23wizards) making hard push with DEN for Andre Miller, according to league source. Deal could include Eric Maynor & Jan Vesely

[ace3g]

Marc J. Spears @SpearsNBAYahoo
(https://twitter.com/SpearsNBAYahoo)Wizards guard Eric Maynor probably won't end up in Denver in Andre Miller proposed deal.

[palangi]

Michael Lee @MrMichaelLee
(https://twitter.com/MrMichaelLee)#wizards (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23wizards) making hard push with DEN for Andre Miller, according to league source. Deal could include Eric Maynor & Jan Vesely


That's unfortunate. I would have loved to see a young althetic 7'er on our roster.

[elemento]

GL trying to get assets for Smith.

Billy King is the only dumb GM that I could see doing it, but he has no assets left :lol

[Baam]

Rondo to Rockets doesn't seem like a great fit with a ball dominant SG but then again Rondo has an history of overperforms in the post season that'd make it scary.

[szkorhetz]

Vesely and Anthony frontcourt with McGee at center. That's some pure athleticism.