2014-2015 Oakland Raiders Thread

[Avante]

I was referring to darn near everything else

Point is.....regardless of coach/players the Raiders have sucked long and hard in the Eastern Time Zone. They wil be playing at 10am west coast time. Trust me, that's a big deal.

[spurraider21]

Point is.....regardless of coach/players the Raiders have sucked long and hard in the Eastern Time Zone. They wil be playing at 10am west coast time. Trust me, that's a big deal.
i'm aware. this year they're actually flying out early, on thursday, to try to get acclimated quicker

[Avante]

i'm aware. this year they're actually flying out early, on thursday, to try to get acclimated quicker

So you see there is something to this Time Zone thing. That other factors are involved than just who has the better team. In this "spot" the Raiders have historically struggled. Now add Rex Ryan vs a rookie QB at home....ouch!

[spurraider21]

So you see there is something to this Time Zone thing. That other factors are involved than just who has the better team. In this "spot" the Raiders are historically struggled. Now Rex Ryan vs a rookie QB at home....ouch!
teams in general aren't significantly worse traveling west to east than any other road game. the raiders have been terrible on the road, and that happens to include east coast games

[The Gemini Method]

The champs did the same thing last year and did well in the eastern time zone...

[spurraider21]

The champs did the same thing last year and did well in the eastern time zone...
the champs did well everywhere :lol

[The Gemini Method]

the champs did well everywhere :lol

'tis true! Such an awesome year! It'll be very difficult to repeat, but if there is a team built for the duration it is the champs.

[Avante]

teams in general aren't significantly worse traveling west to east than any other road game. the raiders have been terrible on the road, and that happens to include east coast games

At what point does it hit you that I don't just make shit up?

The table below displays the results, since 2005:


Game Time Zone

ATS Record

ATS Win Rate



Mountain
22-10
68.8%


Central
37-44
45.7%


Eastern
44-57
43.6%



Interestingly, ATS performance of Pacific Time Zone teams gets progressively worse as they travel further east. Based on these results, we can conclude that West Coast teams don’t meet expectations and therefore “play badly” when traveling to the East Coast.

[spurraider21]

probably helps that the ravens, steelers, patriots are in the east

[spurraider21]

"my advice to him started a long time ago, he's been sitting in NFL locker rooms and NFL meeting rooms for years now ever since he was 12 years old he was in there, he knows what he's doing and at this point no advice needs to be given. I called him the other night to talk to him about Rex and his defense and some of the things that Ive seen from him the last 6 or 7 times Ive played against him" and said Derek was already on top of it and had already broken down all the film. He knows that preparation is the key, he's ready to go.
:cry


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_CeB3oobaM

[The Gemini Method]

who is that broad?

[Avante]

probably helps that the ravens, steelers, patriots are in the east

Why do you fight....facts!...so damn hard?

Do teams play better at home.....why? There is more to this than just the athletes involved.

Dude, wow~

[spurraider21]

Why do you fight....facts!...so damn hard?

Do teams play better at home.....why? There is more to this than just the athletes involved.

Dude, wow~
i dont fight facts. the raiders are a terrible road team until proven otherwise

[Avante]

i dont fight facts. the raiders are a terrible road team until proven otherwise

Why totally ignore what studies showed about....all west coast teams on the east coast? From an historical perspective.

Yes it makes a difference for everyone not just the Raiders.

[spurraider21]

and this is how a rookie guard wins a starting gig


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[The Gemini Method]

Did a pretty good job--he'll develop nicely.

[Aztecfan03]

probably helps that the ravens, steelers, patriots are in the east

And the only teams in mountain time zone are broncos and cardinals and they havent been good most of the time since 2005

Well broncos were a little better than i thought. 3 13-3 seasons, 2 8-8 seasons, 1 9-7, 1 7-9 ,and 1 4-12

But the Cardinals had 4 5-11 seasons, 2 10-6, 2 8-8, 1 9-7

[Holden_Caulfield]

go derek!

make me proud my nigga :toast

[spurraider21]

game summary:

http://nesncom.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/mjdfumble.gif?w=500&h=310

[spurraider21]

Weird to say it, but this was actually a good piece from bleacher report :lol. Was a critical piece about Carr's game. The kid certainly has a lot to learn, but I'm glad he's starting. As long as he isn't out there getting beat up any experience is good experience. Had he watched this game from the sidelines, he would be further behind in his development than he is at this moment, having faced 60 minutes of Rex. I just feel for him that we have the toughest schedule in the league and a bunch of stout defensive teams. As long as he stays upright and doesn't start getting defeated mentally, it'll pay off


http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2193136-derek-carrs-growing-pains-highlight-challenge-ahead-for-the-oakland-raiders?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=share&utm_campaign=web-des-art-top-157#articles/2193136-derek-carrs-growing-pains-highlight-challenge-ahead-for-the-oakland-raiders

[spurraider21]

as much as i hate the process of rebooting and starting over, this coaching staff pretty much needs to get canned. both coordinators as well as DA. they're coaching for their jobs at this point. if this shitfest continues and we start 0-4, i wouldn't be surprised if DA gets fired at that point (with the bye week looming) and Sparano becomes the interim HC.

i would start the offseason hunt by begging Gruden to come back. he loves Derek Carr, and he's a QB coach kind of guy, so the fit is there. the fans would take him back with open arms and he'd bring credibility. if that hire happens i'd kick the tires on wade phillips to run the defense if he's interested. he's a bad head coach, but he's had success as a coordinator. similar to crennel in that regard. gruden would presumably run the offense anyway, and i'd just promote Al Saunders back to offensive coordinator (he was the OC when hue jackson was our HC, and we had a good offense those days). he's still on the staff as a senior advisor.

pretty aware this forum doesn't care about the raiders, but just my 2 cents :lol

[Chinook]

game summary:

http://nesncom.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/mjdfumble.gif?w=500&h=310

Worst flea-flicker ever.

[spurraider21]

although i posted it in the Week 2 thread, its only fair if i include this here...

Week 2 summary:

http://notsportscenter.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Raiders-WR-James-Jones-fumbles-twice-in-the-same-play.gif

[Holden_Caulfield]

bring back gruden and kiffin :lobt2:

[spurraider21]

fuck kiffin. he has failed at pretty much every level for the past decade

[Raven]

Weird to say it, but this was actually a good piece from bleacher report :lol. Was a critical piece about Carr's game. The kid certainly has a lot to learn, but I'm glad he's starting. As long as he isn't out there getting beat up any experience is good experience. Had he watched this game from the sidelines, he would be further behind in his development than he is at this moment, having faced 60 minutes of Rex. I just feel for him that we have the toughest schedule in the league and a bunch of stout defensive teams. As long as he stays upright and doesn't start getting defeated mentally, it'll pay off


http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2193136-derek-carrs-growing-pains-highlight-challenge-ahead-for-the-oakland-raiders?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=share&utm_campaign=web-des-art-top-157#articles/2193136-derek-carrs-growing-pains-highlight-challenge-ahead-for-the-oakland-raiders

mainly because you guys don't get to face the raiders tbh

[Avante]

Where are...

Lyle Alzado
Jack Tatum
Art Shell
Willie Brown
Marcus Allen
Kenny Stabler
Matuzak
Ben Davidson
George Atkinson
Fed Biletnikoff
Todd Christianson
Otis Sistrunk
Bo Jackson
Gene Upshaw
Cliff Branch
Dave Casper
Warren Wells
Jim Otto
Art Powell
Clem Daneils
Ted Hendricks
Tim Brown

..when ya need them?

[Spur-Addict]

Charles Woodson: "We Suck" :lol

[spurraider21]

he's not wrong

[Spur-Addict]

As far as playing top end defenses this year, the league did the Raiders no favors whatsoever.

[spurraider21]

As far as playing top end defenses this year, the league did the Raiders no favors whatsoever.
AFC East and NFC West.... and we play everybody in the AFC West except the raiders :lol

[lefty]

still playing at A's stadium ? :lol

[The Gemini Method]

AFC East and NFC West.... and we play everybody in the AFC West except the raiders :lol

Both side of the Raiduhhs would probably lose...

[Spur-Addict]

Both side of the Raiduhhs would probably lose...

Collllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllld Bloooooded :lol

[Holden_Caulfield]

we should look into the 2015 draft :lol

what are the chances you guys take a qb when they clean house

mariota vs winston

[spurraider21]

:lmao the ROAST of Dennis Allen... this is a question asked to him during a post-practice press conference yesterday

Reporter - How do you go about getting the answer when you as a coach and your other coaches have put in all the hours you have, and i'm sure that if you thought there was more you could do, you would. So you'd think you have that covered. Then it has to go down to if you like the players you have... so what's the answer? How do you go about finding that? Are we past the coaching point, where the coaching is the problem?

Allen - Ok here's what we gotta do. We gotta change the mindset

Reporter - Yeah but this is the third year. Hadn't you changed that the first year you came in here

:lmao this guy won't make it to the end of the season. if we start 0-4 they'll can him right then and there before the bye week

[Chinook]

:lmao the ROAST of Dennis Allen... this is a question asked to him during a post-practice press conference yesterday

Reporter - How do you go about getting the answer when you as a coach and your other coaches have put in all the hours you have, and i'm sure that if you thought there was more you could do, you would. So you'd think you have that covered. Then it has to go down to if you like the players you have... so what's the answer? How do you go about finding that? Are we past the coaching point, where the coaching is the problem?

Allen - Ok here's what we gotta do. We gotta change the mindset

Reporter - Yeah but this is the third year. Hadn't you changed that the first year you came in here

:lmao this guy won't make it to the end of the season. if we start 0-4 they'll can him right then and there before the bye week

Who'd get interim duties?

[spurraider21]

Who'd get interim duties?
the most natural candidate would be Tony Sparano. wouldn't be the first time our offensive line coach became an interim HC. i just hope they dont end up falling in love with him... these interim coach love-fests generally end poorly. we did it with tom cable, the chiefs did it with crennel

[The Gemini Method]

They should hire spurraider21 as the interim--wouldn't really make a difference between him and Dennis Allen.

[Clipper Nation]

It's not Dennis Allen's fault that the GM tried to recreate the 2008 Pro Bowl teams in free agency despite having the most cap space and that they have to rely on JaCarrcus Russell under center :lol

:lol Raiders

[spurraider21]

article full of truth bombs... http://www.mercurynews.com/raiders/ci_26562180/former-oakland-raiders-can-pinpoint-downfall-hue-jacksons

Carson Palmer, Jared Veldheer, Matt Schaughnessy, all former Raiders now on the Cardinals talking about how the firing of Hue Jackson has led to the Raiders reverting to their shitty ways after they had basically turned the corner going 8-8 for 2 straight years

[Clipper Nation]

article full of truth bombs... http://www.mercurynews.com/raiders/ci_26562180/former-oakland-raiders-can-pinpoint-downfall-hue-jacksons

Carson Palmer, Jared Veldheer, Matt Schaughnessy, all former Raiders now on the Cardinals talking about how the firing of Hue Jackson has led to the Raiders reverting to their shitty ways after they had basically turned the corner going 8-8 for 2 straight years
Of course Palmer's going to defend him, Hue was the dumbfuck who traded all those picks for him :lol

:lol "The greatest trade in football"
:lol Raiders

[spurraider21]

to continue the trend of game defining gifs...

Week 3 summary:

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--ObjK8m6O--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/welolpvpyvalri3twbap.gif

[spurraider21]

really though, the defining play was one play before that... rookie made a dumbshit mistake. he'll learn from it. at that point there is no reason to hold, mcfadden was ahead of him and the momentum would have carried him forward even if the defender got there

http://cdn2.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/1366202/rai.0.gif

[lefty]

BELIEVE.

[leemajors]

BELIEVE.

:lol

[spurraider21]

BELIEVE.
:lol sup timvp (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=8)


Believe.

1.

[spurraider21]

Pro Football Focus recap of the Raiders/Pats game. Mack was nearly invisible in week 1 but has really come along since. Also seems dumb that we signed Austin Howard from the Jets, one of the better young RT's around, and decided he should play guard. He hasn't been effective at all. And it's not like we have some stud RT that's preventing him from playing there. also i wouldn't be opposed to just cutting denarius moore. he flashes talent but i dont want him around. sucks because in his rookie year he was flashing serious WR1 potential

The Oakland Raiders traveled to Foxborough yesterday for the New England Patriots’ home opener. Each team struggled to move the ball, especially on the ground, and Tom Brady’s second quarter touchdown pass was the only time either team found the end zone.
Here are some notable performances:

Oakland Raiders – Performances of Note
Khalil Mack, LB: +6.2
Breakdown: Mack was excellent for the second week in a row, and gave Nate Solder trouble throughout the game. The rookie recorded four run stops, and added two hits on Brady on his way to a game-best +6.2 grade.
Signature Stat: Mack was especially dominant in the run game, earning a +5.8 grade.

Austin Howard, RG: -3.0
Breakdown: Oakland’s offense finished the game with a cumulative -9.1 run blocking grade, and Howard was the worst offender after earning a -2.7 in that department. Howard also allowed a hit and a hurry.
Signature Stat: The Raiders ran 11 times for just 28 yards between the right A and B gaps behind Howard.

Denarius Moore, WR: -2.4
Breakdown: Moore was targeted seven times and caught three passes for just 23 yards, including two drops. Moore’s 0.96 Yards per Route Run (https://www.profootballfocus.com/about/pff-signature-stats/#YardsPerRouteRun) for the game would rank second-worst among qualifying recievers so far in 2014.
Signature Play: Moore’s second dropped pass caromed off of Logan Ryan, right into the arms of DT Vince Wilfork for the game-sealing interception.



New England Patriots – Performances of Note
Dont’a Hightower, LB: +5.1
Breakdown: Hightower graded positively in all phases of defense (run defense, pass rushing and coverage) for the second week in a row, and currently leads all Patriots defenders with a +8.3 overall grade for the season. The Alabama product recorded four run stops, and had a hit and two hurries on 11 pass rush attempts.
Signature Stat: Hightower was at his best in pass coverage (+3.0), allowing 3 passes to be complete for -7 yards.

Nate Solder, LT: -3.3
Breakdown: Solder’s struggles continued yesterday, as he earned his third consecutive red-graded game. He had trouble with Khalil Mack throughout the game, and Solder’s overall grade now stands at -7.8 in 2014.
Signature Stat: Solder allowed three hits and a hurry on Tom Brady, earning a -2.5 pass blocking grade in the process.

Jerod Mayo, LB: +3.4
Breakdown: Mayo recorded four run stops, earning a team-best +2.4 run defense grade. Like Hightower, Mayo earned positive marks in all three areas defensively.
Signature Stat: Mayo recorded four QB hurries on just eight pass rushes.



PFF Game Ball
Khalil Mack gets the game ball in a losing effort, after posting the best game of his young career.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2014/09/22/refo-raiders-patriots-week-3/

[spurraider21]

Clipper Nation (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=28500)

:worthy: da gawd

514056932248674305


dat release http://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/ooh.png

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3f0FqXX69zI

[Raven]

really though, the defining play was one play before that... rookie made a dumbshit mistake. he'll learn from it. at that point there is no reason to hold, mcfadden was ahead of him and the momentum would have carried him forward even if the defender got there

http://cdn2.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/1366202/rai.0.gif

clear holding, lol

[spurraider21]

clear holding, lol
yup, it was blatant. it was just a stupid play, since he had no reason to hold him. it was just the first gif i found, don't care for the caption

[Spur-Addict]

Rod Streeter out 4-5 weeks, minor foot surgery. Tyvon Branch out for the season, broken foot.

[spurraider21]

Branch earned and deserved his contract but now has played 5 games in the first two years of the deal. Terrible luck for us

[spurraider21]

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[spurraider21]

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[Malik Hairston]

:lol still can't believe they hired Dennis Allen, tbh..

I said it here at that time, Broncos fans were mostly happy to see him go..

[spurraider21]

:lol still can't believe they hired Dennis Allen, tbh..

I said it here at that time, Broncos fans were mostly happy to see him go..
yeah, he was known because he was coordinating the defense carrying tebow... only to see their defense statistically improve under Del Rio the next year :lol

Sparano will likely be the interim guy... i hope they dont make the classic mistake of falling in love with the interim, like the chiefs did with crennel and the raiders did with tom cable

[Malik Hairston]

yeah, he was known because he was coordinating the defense carrying tebow... only to see their defense statistically improve under Del Rio the next year :lol

Sparano will likely be the interim guy... i hope they dont make the classic mistake of falling in love with the interim, like the chiefs did with crennel and the raiders did with tom cable

The Broncos' defense during the Tebow year was extremely overrated, too..they played against awful competition(a string of backup QBs:lol) with Von and Dumervil feasting for a stretch..once they played against good offenses/in the playoffs, they could never get a stop..

[spurraider21]

The Broncos' defense during the Tebow year was extremely overrated, too..they played against awful competition(a string of backup QBs:lol) with Von and Dumervil feasting for a stretch..once they played against good offenses/in the playoffs, they could never get a stop..
i don't even know what direction we're going to head in the offseason. coaching changes suck, and a lot of times new coaches want "their guy" and i would hate to waste yet another high draft pick on a QB. its a mess, but Allen was terrible and we weren't going to go anywhere with him. the coordinators will both get canned at season's end.

its not like they had terrific rosters to work with, but there was no structure, bad playcalling, no creativity. they weren't putting guys in positions to succeed. when hue was the coach, darrius heyward bey was actually producing like an NFL receiver and McFadden looked elite :lol

[spurraider21]

this kind of bullshit is on the coaches

http://www.raiderfans.net/forum/attachments/oakland-raiders-forum-message-board/18195d1411955798-tarvers-defense-raiders.jpg

[Clipper Nation]

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:lol Dat Dennis Allen job security

[spurraider21]

516422190636736512

:lol Dat Dennis Allen job security
he's gone. just waiting till they get back to oakland. IMO

[BanditHiro]

why does it always seem like this team's season is always done by the end of September?

[spurraider21]

https://i.imgflip.com/ckqem.jpg

[Aztecfan03]

https://i.imgflip.com/ckqem.jpg

You should steal the coach from across the Bay. His players (or at least some of them) reportedly want him out.

[Holden_Caulfield]

https://i.imgflip.com/ckqem.jpg
im telling you bro, gruden and kiffin are coming :lol

[spurraider21]

fuck Lame Kiffin :lol

[The Gemini Method]

fuck Lame Kiffin :lol Think he meant Monte Kiffin. Lane is actually doing decent in Bama. Fuck him though...

[Chinook]

i don't even know what direction we're going to head in the offseason.

Southeast toward Central Texas, I imagine.

[spurraider21]

Think he meant Monte Kiffin. Lane is actually doing decent in Bama. Fuck him though...
monte is done as well. didn't lane fire him? :lol

[Clipper Nation]

Art Shell coming back for round 3 :downspin:

[The Gemini Method]

monte is done as well. didn't lane fire him? :lol

Yup.

[Spur-Addict]

Allen officially shit canned :lol

[spurraider21]

pretty sure Sparano will be the interim guy. hopefully they don't wall in love with him if the team happens to :cry play harder :cry for him

[Robz4000]

Art Shell really coming back?

[Clipper Nation]

Art Shell really coming back?

Yep, Harlem's sources have confirmed....

[spurraider21]

Art Shell really coming back?
:lol nah. its CN being CN. best bet is sparano being interim guy. no clue who they'll

a) target
b) be able to get

it's important to note that with the raiders, those two are VERY different things


Yep, Harlem's sources have confirmed....
:rollin he never PM'ed me his source

[Spur-Addict]

Art's about to put tha team on his back doe :cry

[Robz4000]

Yep, Harlem's sources have confirmed....

I'll wait for tspence's tweet...

[Clipper Nation]

Raiders new coaching staff, according to sources:

HC: Art Shell
OC: Lane Kiffin
DC: Ted Cottrell
ST: Steve Crosby

Staaaaaaaacked :lobt2:

[spurraider21]

Darrell Bevell is getting buzz as a head coaching candidate next season... the only thing is, i doubt any prominent names are going to want to suicide their careers with the raiders :lol

the only hope is the return of the chosen one

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n280/daughterofolaf/GrudenVsChucky3.jpg

[spurraider21]

my fairy tale not going to happen pipe dream, fwiw

GM: Reggie McKenzie gets fired and they bring in Scot McLoughan

HC: Return of Chucky. He would probably be micromanaging the offense so in this scenario I don't really care about the offensive coordinator.

DC: Wade Phillips. not a good track record as a head coach, but he's been one of the better coordinators around. he whipped up Houston's defense in one offseason, from one of the worst in NFL history to one of the best in the NFL

[spurraider21]

It's now being reported that Tony Sparano will NOT be named interim coach. That's weird. He's the only guy we have on staff with HC experience. The next logical guess is OC Greg Olson. Both coordinators are going to get fired at season's end if I'm a betting man.

It's also being said that McKenzie's job isn't very secure either. Apparently Mark Davis fired DA and McKenzie was vouching for him to keep his job. Seems he is at odds with the owner, not a good sign, especially when his (short) track record has been pretty terrible.

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:stirpot:

[spurraider21]

sorry to keep bumping this up, but its a fluid situation... this guy is a legit insider who has been on that site for a while

http://i.imgur.com/UM8L3Qf.jpg?1?4856


coaches who fit the description of the "mystery coach" are Cowher, Dungy, Holmgren. I'm not a particular fan of bringing any of those guys back, but I'd take Cowher over the other two.

[Holden_Caulfield]

charlie weis is looking for a gig, possible OC for gruden?

[spurraider21]

charlie weis is looking for a gig, possible OC for gruden?
i duno. i hate that i have to speculate our coach and coordinators for next season when week 4 just finished :lol

[The Gemini Method]

Only the Raiduhhsss :cry

[Aztecfan03]

sorry to keep bumping this up, but its a fluid situation... this guy is a legit insider who has been on that site for a while

http://i.imgur.com/UM8L3Qf.jpg?1?4856


coaches who fit the description of the "mystery coach" are Cowher, Dungy, Holmgren. I'm not a particular fan of bringing any of those guys back, but I'd take Cowher over the other two.

SO does he want Gruden for GM? The thing about Dennis Allen makes it seem like it isn't HC.

[spurraider21]

SO does he want Gruden for GM? The thing about Dennis Allen makes it seem like it isn't HC.
i think its more like "i dont want me to be the reason you fire your coach. call me when you have a vacancy." it could also be a nice way of saying "yeah, no thanks :lol"

[Avante]

I always think of all those in the black hole who gets all dressed up like Halloween over a really bad football team. Haven't they noticed the Raiders suck and they look ridiculous? That shit doesn't work when you're losing and losing and losing and.....

There is nobody out there who can fix this.

[spurraider21]

I always think of all those in the black hole who gets all dressed up like Halloween over a really bad football team. Haven't they noticed the Raiders suck and they look ridiculous? That shit doesn't work when you're losing and losing and losing and.....

There is nobody out there who can fix this.
hey asshole i do that when i go to the games :lol, both in oakland and in san diego

this was with some random people who wanted a pic in san diego

http://i.imgur.com/6JrFJK7.jpg?1?8653

[Avante]

hey asshole i do that when i go to the games :lol, both in oakland and in san diego

this was with some random people who wanted a pic in san diego

http://i.imgur.com/6JrFJK7.jpg?1?8653


I tell you...AGAIN!!!!!!!!!...the Raiders cannot win on the east coast, so you took them in London...hahaha!!!!!!! Too dumb to figure out they aren't going to win three ATS in a row in that "spot".

You actually put on all that silly shit over a really bad team...hahahaha!!!!!!!!! Yes I do understand it with Jack Tatum, Lyle Alzado down there and the Raiders are in the SB mix.

[spurraider21]

I'm not a fair weather fan

[Avante]

I'm not a fair weather fan

Who is?

The point is why look goofy over a bad team? Not saying ya don't follow and root for them.

I have a soft spot for the Raiders also. One of the really..."interesting"...franchises.

[The Gemini Method]

Someone's off they meds.

[Avante]

Someone's off they meds.

I agree...they meds...hahaha!!!!!

[Chinook]

Sparano in as interim HC. Obvious.

[Chinook]

hey asshole i do that when i go to the games :lol, both in oakland and in san diego

this was with some random people who wanted a pic in san diego

http://i.imgur.com/6JrFJK7.jpg?1?8653

No trolling, but you have to think that a Raiders game in SA around November first would be pretty awesome. The skull is already a huge symbol in Mexican culture.

[Raven]

:cry the year of ressurrection :cry

[Aztecfan03]

I tell you...AGAIN!!!!!!!!!...the Raiders cannot win on the east coast, so you took them in London...hahaha!!!!!!! Too dumb to figure out they aren't going to win three ATS in a row in that "spot".

You actually put on all that silly shit over a really bad team...hahahaha!!!!!!!!! Yes I do understand it with Jack Tatum, Lyle Alzado down there and the Raiders are in the SB mix.

I wouldn't have bet on the Raiders, but the Raiders were in London all week and the Dolphins travelled there later(as spurraider already told you) so your "Raiders don't do well travelling east" wouldn't make sense to use.

[spurraider21]

What of the raiders flew the long way and went west to London. Would they have won?

[Avante]

I wouldn't have bet on the Raiders, but the Raiders were in London all week and the Dolphins travelled there later(as spurraider already told you) so your "Raiders don't do well travelling east" wouldn't make sense to use.

You don't back any team with the road record the Raiders have especially east of the Miss River. They have done nothing to deserve any respect in that 'spot' at all. You either back the Dolphins are far far better road team or lay off the game.

The Dolphins on the road the last two seasons....6-10, Raiders...2-14.

[Avante]

What of the raiders flew the long way and went west to London. Would they have won?

I'll go slow...

The Raiders lack discipline and we all see that. You put this team on a long trip and they haven't done shit. They don't play well if they spend a lot of time together as a team. We've been seeing this for a decade. What we just ignore the facts.......why?

[Aztecfan03]

I'll go slow...

The Raiders lack discipline and we all see that. You put this team on a long trip and they haven't done shit. They don't play well if they spend a lot of time together as a team. We've been seeing this for a decade. What we just ignore the facts.......why?

Wow...

[spurraider21]

translation: bad teams play poorly on the road.

fucking groundbreaking stuff

[PublicOption]

http://www.woai.com/articles/woai-local-news-sponsored-by-five-119078/exclusive-raiders-now-conducting-economic-study-12813288/

[Blizzardwizard]

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[spurraider21]

https://i.imgflip.com/cmafw.jpg

[Aztecfan03]

http://ww1.hdnux.com/photos/12/22/17/2696144/6/628x471.jpg

that piece of shit...

[Blizzardwizard]

that piece of shit...

He's my hero. Greatest coach of all time.

[Spur-Addict]

Mike Holmgren met with the Raiders :stirpot:

[Avante]

These old school guys like Holmgren are in for a rude awakening. That old....footbal means everything, nothing else matters.....won't work anymore.

[spurraider21]

holmgren was a good HC even thru his Seattle days, but he was a huge flop as a GM/"Czar" in Cleveland

[Avante]

holmgren was a good HC even thru his Seattle days, but he was a huge flop as a GM/"Czar" in Cleveland

Maybe the Raiders do need someone like Holmgren, hell, might as well try everything they can.

[Spur-Addict]

Colt McCoy :lol

[spurraider21]

Maybe the Raiders do need someone like Holmgren, hell, might as well try everything they can.
kitchen sink

[Avante]

kitchen sink

A punk rock band....The Kitchen Sink...?

[spurraider21]

A punk rock band....The Kitchen Sink...?
no, the common expression... when you "throw everything but the kitchen sink" at a problem to try to fix it

[Avante]

no, the common expression... when you "throw everything but the kitchen sink" at a problem to try to fix it

Wow!

Everyone knows that, man you got this thing about stating the obvious....weird! You really thought in all these years I 'd never heard...hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!

I meant what a cool name for a punk rock band.

[spurraider21]

:lol raiders claim Kenbrell Thompkins

good thing it wasn't Aaron Dobson, we don't want to go down that road again

[Holden_Caulfield]

:lol raiders claim Kenbrell Thompkins

good thing it wasn't Aaron Dobson, we don't want to go down that road again
Whats the consensus on Carr's situation for this weekend?

[spurraider21]

Whats the consensus on Carr's situation for this weekend?
he practiced today... seems like he's gna play.

:cry fucking warrior

[Aztecfan03]

he practiced today... seems like he's gna play.

:cry fucking warrior

:cry. I know it will still be an easy win, but we need as easy games as we can get so we dont get more people injured before Denver. We now last our 3rd string center for the season. The 2nd string should be back sometime but i have no idea when.

[Aztecfan03]

Wow!

Everyone knows that, man you got this thing about stating the obvious....weird! You really thought in all these years I 'd never heard...hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!

I meant what a cool name for a punk rock band.

You could have just said, "No, no, I meant what a cool name for a punk rock band." instead of being a condescending douchebag.

[Avante]

You could have just said, "No, no, I meant what a cool name for a punk rock band." instead of being a condescending douchebag.

And you could mind your own business..ok? Who hasn't heard....kitchen sink....wow!

[Aztecfan03]

And you could mind your own business..ok? Who hasn't heard....kitchen sink....wow!

Your original response made it seem like you didn't. You caused the misunderstanding.

[Avante]

Your original response made it seem like you didn't. You caused the misunderstanding.

It isn't real real obvious everyone has heard that? How could anyone not have heard that?

I guarantee you have heard....

swims like a fish
kicks like a mule

....right? Simple common sense. I just assumed it was real obvious everyone has heard kitchen sink. Especially someone who saw Jim Brown play.

[spurraider21]

http://www.raiders.com/media-vault/videos/Sparanos-First-Order-of-Business/0e04b433-b8bd-44a7-98ee-8beec9ffcfac

:lmao Holden_Caulfield (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=23326)


sparano approaching this shit like he's coaching 3rd graders.

but look at det team leader being the first one up :cry

[Holden_Caulfield]

http://www.raiders.com/media-vault/videos/Sparanos-First-Order-of-Business/0e04b433-b8bd-44a7-98ee-8beec9ffcfac

:lmao Holden_Caulfield (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=23326)


sparano approaching this shit like he's coaching 3rd graders.

but look at det team leader being the first one up :cry

:cry a warrior and a great leader :cry

[spurraider21]

:lol rotoworld's in-house analysis is such a joke

Derek Carr completed 18-of-34 throws for 283 yards, four touchdowns, and an interception in the Raiders' Week 6 loss to San Diego.

The Raiders clearly game planned to attack the Chargers' defense with vertical passes. Carr got the Raiders off to a hot start, finding Andre Holmes for a 77-yard touchdown on Oakland's opening possession. The second-round rookie capped another first-half drive with a six-yard TD pass to James Jones. Carr's third TD was good to Brice Butler on a catch-and-run from 47 yards out. Showing off his impressive athleticism and arm-strength combination, Carr kept Oakland in Sunday's game for much longer than most people expected. After a series of powerful fourth-quarter runs by Darren McFadden, Carr threw his fourth TD to Holmes, again, from six yards out. Carr crumbled when it mattered most, however, throwing into double coverage and getting picked by Bolts rookie CB Jason Verrett to seal San Diego's win. The Raiders will host the Cardinals next.



Oct 12 - 7:22 PM




:lol defender rips it away from receiver... that means the QB "crumbled"

[spurraider21]

to answer ur question, Holden_Caulfield (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=23326), this was posted over on a raiders board. i dont have a PFF subscription to verify but i doubt somebody would just make it up. i generally dont care for PFF... but he's been more "solid" than gamebreaking so far. hopefully some big plays will come soon, he seems close.

Five games into the season, Mack is rated by Pro Football Focus as the top run stopping linebacker in the NFL. They give him a +10.2 run defense grade which is the best grade for all linebackers, including 3-4 OLB, 4-3 OLB, and ILB.

Mack's pass rushing grade is +2.2 and an overall grade of +13.7. That's the fifth best overall grade for any linebacker position in the league. Those ahead of him are Von Miller (+17.5), Terrell Suggs (+16.6), Justin Houston (+15.1), and Pernell McPhee (+13.8).

[Clipper Nation]

:lol rotoworld's in-house analysis is such a joke

Derek Carr completed 18-of-34 throws for 283 yards, four touchdowns, and an interception in the Raiders' Week 6 loss to San Diego.

The Raiders clearly game planned to attack the Chargers' defense with vertical passes. Carr got the Raiders off to a hot start, finding Andre Holmes for a 77-yard touchdown on Oakland's opening possession. The second-round rookie capped another first-half drive with a six-yard TD pass to James Jones. Carr's third TD was good to Brice Butler on a catch-and-run from 47 yards out. Showing off his impressive athleticism and arm-strength combination, Carr kept Oakland in Sunday's game for much longer than most people expected. After a series of powerful fourth-quarter runs by Darren McFadden, Carr threw his fourth TD to Holmes, again, from six yards out. Carr crumbled when it mattered most, however, throwing into double coverage and getting picked by Bolts rookie CB Jason Verrett to seal San Diego's win. The Raiders will host the Cardinals next.



Oct 12 - 7:22 PM




:lol defender rips it away from receiver... that means the QB "crumbled"
Carr chokedPERIOD... and don't give me the "rookie" excuse, because our rookies stepped up in the clutch :downspin:

[spurraider21]

I watched the play several times to see what went wrong. There were only three routes on the play. One guy ran a short hitch and was doubled. Two guys ran fly routes, jones on the right and butler on the left. There was safety help over jones and butler had one on one. 6'3 receiver against a 5'10 corner. Verrett just made a great play. Ball hit butlers hands first but verrett ripped it clean.

He he had a good matchup and gave the receiver a shot instead of throwing it away. Both he and sparano said after the game it was the right read and just didn't work out.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/san-diego-chargers/0ap3000000409905/Jason-Verrett-intercepts-Derek-Carr

[Holden_Caulfield]

gruden is salivating

with the success of the recent draft picks and a top 3 pick, the raiders hc job should be enticing. todd gurley in the top of the 2nd rd would be great.

[spurraider21]

gruden is salivating

with the success of the recent draft picks and a top 3 pick, the raiders hc job should be enticing. todd gurley in the top of the 2nd rd would be great.
not to mention the most cap room in the league. the raiders aren't exactly an attractive landing spot, but i think if they brought in a guy like Gruden (or Harbaugh, or somebody of that manner) it would change the perspective a bit

i dont think Gurley will fall to the second, but even then i think we need to draft D-Line, linebacker, secondary ahead of anything.

im hoping to land cobb in free agency, unless packers are expected to be able to retain him

:lol week 6 just finished and looking ahead to the offseason
:lol raiders

[spurraider21]

0-6, only winless team left. time to start planning for the #1 overall pick

http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/144/files/2012/11/6735532.jpg

[spurraider21]

i have no clue if this info is any good at all, or if its just some guy fucking with the forum, but...

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Raiders moving to LA in 2015 or 2016


Got some really tough news for us Bay Area fans. I have a relative who is in the know with a development group in LA, and Mark Davis is in the process of finalizing an agreement that is palatable to the NFL and the Raiders both to get a deal done in LA and have the Raiders playing in the Rose Bowl as soon as next year while the stadium is built. This is massively painful for me being born and raised in Oakland. Not sure what to think. This is not rumor. I'd expect this to hit the local outlets soon. I am pretty damn gutted right now. Will post more if I get it. I don't have any sort of track record of posting BS, so trust me when I say this came from a source involved with the situation.



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he said in a later post that the rams will be accompanying them and they will share a stadium on the land owned by Kroenke

[spurraider21]

La Canfora had an article with the same messages earlier today...

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/24758737/rams-raiders-would-be-los-angeles-bound----if-not-for-the-nfl

i don't know how hard the NFL will try to keep the raiders out of LA if they really pushed for it, considering what happened last time. although Al Davis had a much stronger will than his son

[Clipper Nation]

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Spanos will keep the Raiders from moving to LA because he wants to move there himself... he's already started trotting out the stats about how 30% of the Chargers' business comes from LA....

[Avante]

So who do the Raiders beat for their first 2014 win?

I posted that above and expected to find a game they could win, I'm dead serious, there isn't one game left we could say....they might win that one. Obviously they win one maybe two but we don't see it on paper.

[spurraider21]

So who do the Raiders beat for their first 2014 win?

I posted that above and expected to find a game they could win, I'm dead serious, there isn't one game left we could say....they might win that one. Obviously they win one maybe two but we don't see it on paper.
they play cleveland next week. would be funny if the Browns lose consecutive games to winless teams

[Avante]

they play cleveland next week. would be funny if the Browns lose consecutive games to winless teams

What are the odds of that happening, hmmmm?

The Raiders have lost 11 out of their last 12 road games. I don't see them winning that first game playing on the road vs a "good" team coming off a loss.

[Silver&Black]

What are the odds of that happening, hmmmm?

The Raiders have lost 11 out of their last 12 road games. I don't see them winning that first game playing on the road vs a "good" team coming off a loss.

I do....Raiders for the win this week. Might even get a Johnny Football sighting.....

[spurraider21]

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Clipper Nation

[spurraider21]

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Raven

[Raven]

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Raven (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=35860)

i've seen it at the half, but thanks for the effort :lol.

[Kyle Orton]

Y'all suck ass imo

[spurraider21]

:lol 8 million dollar holder
:lol fucks up the one time he's called on

[Clipper Nation]

526376145248583680

Clipper Nation (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=28500)
Gruden is vastly overrated, won his only ring with Dungy's players and the Raiders' coach still using his old playbook, and systematically destroyed the Bucs on his way out. Also, no way he leaves his cushy ESPN job to get exposed :lol

[JoeTait75]

If McFadden doesn't lose that fumble the Raiders win the game, imho. Also, even in Cleveland the Raider fans all look like they came straight out of the barrio.

[spurraider21]

Gruden is vastly overrated, won his only ring with Dungy's players and the Raiders' coach still using his old playbook, and systematically destroyed the Bucs on his way out. Also, no way he leaves his cushy ESPN job to get exposed :lol
- so he took "dungy's team" to the SB... but do people ever say Callahan took "gruden's team" to the SB? its a weird double standard
- the bucs had the worst cap situation in the NFL and they traded 2 firsts AND 2 seconds to get gruden... so they really had nowhere to go but down

i wouldn't bet on him leaving either, and retread coaches rarely work anyway. the main reason i'd advocate him coming over is because he'd actually be able to assemble a good coaching staff. good coordinators won't agree to work under a mediocre, unproven coach, but they'd do so for gruden. it would also make us slightly more attractive to free agents

[spurraider21]

If McFadden doesn't lose that fumble the Raiders win the game, imho. Also, even in Cleveland the Raider fans all look like they came straight out of the barrio.
yeah that's where all momentum died. good drive, we were having success on the ground until that point (as long as they weren't feeding MJD)... and cleveland got a big play on their first play after that. game over

[spurraider21]

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[Holden_Caulfield]

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that was my dream draft for the jags :cry

[spurraider21]

held while being double teamed by Joe Thomas and left guard :lol
https://vine.co/v/OMbe5tLOMee


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[spurraider21]

drawing holds

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[spurraider21]

destroying souls:

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[Avante]

One thing for sure Carr is the real deal. I'm impressed.

[spurraider21]

One thing for sure Carr is the real deal. I'm impressed.
yeah the rookie class this year has been a bright spot. it might be the only reason the GM doesn't get fired

[Avante]

yeah the rookie class this year has been a bright spot. it might be the only reason the GM doesn't get fired

Constantly playing from behind, constantly in third and long and the kid is pretty cool as far as Carr goes.

Yep, another draft and a few stud free agent signings and the retirement of Manning, there is a light in the tunnel.

[spurraider21]

Constantly playing from behind, constantly in third and long and the kid is pretty cool as far as Carr goes.

Yep, another draft and a few stud free agent signings and the retirement of Manning, there is a light in the tunnel.
we will have the most cap space in the league yet again this summer, but so far this GM has been a complete flop when it comes to free agency. hopefully we make some noise this time around

[Holden_Caulfield]

we will have the most cap space in the league yet again this summer, but so far this GM has been a complete flop when it comes to free agency. hopefully we make some noise this time around
Gruden will make FA more exciting for you guys, just throw money at Demaryius/Cobb and hope it sticks :lol

[spurraider21]

Gruden will make FA more exciting for you guys, just throw money at Demaryius/Cobb and hope it sticks :lol
Cobb is realistic, and is the one I'm hoping for. A decker type deal seems fair

[The Gemini Method]

Khalil Mack is a stud. I'd take Anthony Barr slightly over him but either one you can't go wrong with.

[Raven]

Cobb is realistic, and is the one I'm hoping for. A decker type deal seems fair

why would you waste money on wr if you don't have an offensive line...

[The Gemini Method]

why would you waste money on wr if you don't have an offensive line...

Cuz. It's the Raiders, duh.

[spurraider21]

why would you waste money on wr if you don't have an offensive line...
the raiders o-line has been very strong in pass protection this year. the run game is a different story, although McFadden has been having some success in recent weeks. Donald Penn has actually had a better season than Veldheer :lol and the rookie LG has stepped right in and played well. If anything RG is our weak spot right now. We signed Austin Howard who had been a good RT for the Jets and decided to stick him at guard to emphasize his run blocking, but it has played out poorly. I suspect next season they'll kick him back to RT where he has actually had NFL success and find somebody to plug in at RG.

I don't think having a hole at RG should prevent a team from signing a difference making wideout for their QB

[spurraider21]

Khalil Mack is a stud. I'd take Anthony Barr slightly over him but either one you can't go wrong with.
i only like pro football focus when it supports my team. so i'll just leave this here :lol
https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2014/10/29/race-for-rookie-of-the-year-week-8-3/

[Brazil]

Can Raiders go 0-16 tbh ?

[spurraider21]

Can Raiders go 0-16 tbh ?
I think they'll break through. They've been in all their games recently, were within 1 possession in the 4tg for their past 4 games (San Diego, Arizona, Cleveland, Seattle). The schedule isn't easy but they've been improving

they'll probably still end up with the #1 overall but this isn't the worst raiders team I've seen

[Brazil]

I think they'll break through. They've been in all their games recently, were within 1 possession in the 4tg for their past 4 games (San Diego, Arizona, Cleveland, Seattle). The schedule isn't easy but they've been improving

they'll probably still end up with the #1 overall but this isn't the worst raiders team I've seen

Next 8 games won't be easy tho, only St Louis is sub .500 and they will play them at home. For the rest Denver twice, chargers, buffalo... they have probably a shot against 49ers, kansas city (twice). 0-16 is not out of reach tbh

[spurraider21]

Next 8 games won't be easy tho, only St Louis is sub .500 and they will play them at home. For the rest Denver twice, chargers, buffalo... they have probably a shot against 49ers, kansas city (twice). 0-16 is not out of reach tbh
Yeah the schedule is rough, I think Denver will blow us out both times. I just think it's a numbers game. It's hard to be right in the thick of so many games and not get lucky once. We need the run game to do something. Dead last in the league, and Carr ends up throwing 40+ passes a week. Not a good gameplan when you have a rookie QB and a mediocre receiving core.

The silver lining is most of our positive players have been young guys. The only vets that are really playin well are Charles Woodson and Donald Penn (left tackle). Woodson is playing too well to retire, hope he reups

[Clipper Nation]

Can Raiders go 0-16 tbh ?
First win coming in two weeks.

[Brazil]

^ I guess if Raiders go 0-16, Detroit 08 won't be alone anymore so, no offense 21, but I'm rooting for that to happen :lol

[spurraider21]

^ I guess if Raiders go 0-16, Detroit 08 won't be alone anymore so, no offense 21, but I'm rooting for that to happen :lol
these raiders are pretty bad, but those Lions were horrific :lol. that season their best QB was Dan Orlovsky who posted a 48 QBR for the season, and their point differential per game was -15.6. the raiders are sitting at -10 right now.

[Brazil]

these raiders are pretty bad, but those Lions were horrific :lol. that season their best QB was Dan Orlovsky who posted a 48 QBR for the season, and their point differential per game was -15.6. the raiders are sitting at -10 right now.

:lol raiders are indeed a much more solid team than was the lions but... I'd take a raiders 0-16, I will let you the "my 0-16 was better than yours"

[spurraider21]

:lol raiders are indeed a much more solid team than was the lions but... I'd take a raiders 0-16, I will let you the "my 0-16 was better than yours"
:lol

:bobo tbh i don't even care about the notoriety of going winless, the raiders have been a laughingstock for so long that nothing like that would bother me. plus it would ensure the #1 overall pick, and with Mariota's recent Heisman-type performance, we might be able to get a trade partner in the draft. but i want to see them get at least 2-3 wins the rest of the way just to have some sort of positive momentum to build on for next season, and to give the young guys like Carr a taste of success

[Brazil]

The other day I was looking wikipedia in portugues and I checked the Detroit Lions page... it starts like that "O Detroit Lions é um time de futebol americano (http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Futebol_americano) da cidade de Detroit (http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Detroit), Michigan (http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michigan) que disputa a National Football League (http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Football_League). O time na temporada de 2008 (http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008) não conseguiu nenhuma vitória"

[Brazil]

:lmao

that's fucked up tbh

[spurraider21]

i dont understand Burrito but i saw they mentioned 2008 :lol

[The Gemini Method]

i dont understand Burrito but i saw they mentioned 2008 :lol

:lol I think that's Churrascaria and not burrito...but sucktitude is the same whatever language its in.

[spurraider21]

:lol I think that's Churrascaria and not burrito...but sucktitude is the same whatever language its in.
same shit. do they call it grilled cheese or quesadilla? that's all i need to know :lol

[spurraider21]

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[Holden_Caulfield]

spurraider21 two top 3 pick :cry

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000427346/article/2014-nfl-redraft-houston-texans-take-khalil-mack-at-no-1

[spurraider21]

pretty nifty graphic. historically poor run game leads to poor passing efficiency. his best statistical week (by a large margin) came in the only game where our run game wasn't completely inept

http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/article/media_slots/photos/001/828/711/796174a0c83af9a52bb4d6a3a138153d_original.png?1416 312480

[spurraider21]

:cry

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:lol 1-10

[The Gemini Method]

Latavious Murray is the trooth.

[Aztecfan03]

haha. You lost your advantage for 1st pick in the draft.

[Avante]

The most important stat when it comes to running backs is their average per carry. Sure we take into consideration line thumpers and multi purpose guys. Anyway....this Murry kid averaged...5.7, 5.6 and 5.6 his last three years of college (played little as a frosh). And as we see he has that size with speed combo.

I think it's safe to say he's a huge upgrade over Darren "Tinker Bell" McFadden and an aging MJD.

[Holden_Caulfield]

welcome to jacksonville leonard williams :bobo

[spurraider21]

damn, thought u faggots had 2 wins :lol

and u have the strength of schedule advantage :bang

[Aztecfan03]

damn, thought u faggots had 2 wins :lol

and u have the strength of schedule advantage :bang

They still have another game against Titans though. Go Titans, tbh.

[midnightpulp]

Just (1st) Win, Baby!

[spurraider21]

They still have another game against Titans though. Go Titans, tbh.
Damn. How could we so shitty all year and not be in line for the top pick :lol

leonard Williams would fit so perfectly... If the jags grab him I'm hoping for a trade-back scenario

[Aztecfan03]

Damn. How could we so shitty all year and not be in line for the top pick :lol

leonard Williams would fit so perfectly... If the jags grab him I'm hoping for a trade-back scenario
Your only hope is the Jags winning but their games against NYG and Titans are easier than any of yours. Heck their 2 games against the Texans might be as easy as your two easiest- Bills and Rams.

[313]

First win coming in two weeks.

[midnightpulp]

After the improbable win, it's back to Raider football!

[spurraider21]

the bright side is all the morons who were hoping for Sparano to be retained as head coach will STFU. i always hate when interim coaches get love

[Malik Hairston]

Wow, what an embarrassment:wow..

[spurraider21]

yeah, i feel like the players felt too highly of themselves after they finally won a game, receiving all sorts of credit from the media for playing a good game. they came out completely flat and unprepared. the rams were easily a superior team anyway, but we didn't even come to play. embarrassing display

[spurraider21]

and after the mirage of Latavius Murray last week, we returned to our historically poor ground game :lol.... 21 carries for 61 yards

[spurraider21]

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-videos/0ap3000000440579/Week-14-Derek-Carr-highlights

:cry Holden_Caulfield

[Holden_Caulfield]

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-videos/0ap3000000440579/Week-14-Derek-Carr-highlights

:cry Holden_Caulfield (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=23326)
det poise, det pocket presence :cry

best qb in the class :cry

[Aztecfan03]

Raiders aren't good at this tanking stuff. Now they are tied with four other teams.

[spurraider21]

they're not trying to tank. they're just not a great football team. i actually think they'd be better served winning out than losing out (obviously they wont win out, still play denver).

even with Carr and Mack looking like cornerstones, right now there is still a "stink" on the raiders organization. coaches aren't lining up to come here, free agents actively avoid them. its a sense of "if i go there, i'll waste my prime and kill my career." even if we lose out and get the #1 pick, that's not going to change the perspective. FA's will see a 2-14 team that is looking for a new coach and will try to avoid it.

but if we win some more games to close the year, we might have the image of an up and coming team with a franchise QB in place. i do think momentum can carry over from the end of a season too.

don't get me wrong, the idea of getting a top pick is great... i think Leonard Williams would be a picture perfect fit for our team, and i'd be thrilled if we traded back a Mariota pick, but thats a consolation prize, not something any team should be gunning for, imo

[spurraider21]

Khalil Mack is a fucking monster, and Derek Carr looks like he'll be starting here for a while :cry

http://www.nfl.com/videos/oakland-raiders/0ap3000000447713/Week-16-Khalil-Mack-highlights

[Clipper Nation]

Khalil Mack is a fucking monster, and Derek Carr looks like he'll be starting here for a while :cry

http://www.nfl.com/videos/oakland-raiders/0ap3000000447713/Week-16-Khalil-Mack-highlights
They haven't been fully Raidered yet... give it time.

[spurraider21]

They haven't been fully Raidered yet... give it time.
:lol even you gotta say you've been impressed so far

[Clipper Nation]

:lol even you gotta say you've been impressed so far

3-12 and swept by the Chargers... not impressed. Carr did throw a nice game-winning pass to Verrett, though. :downspin:

[spurraider21]

:lmao pulling guard rams into him with all the momentum, can't even knock him a step back

http://gfycat.com/PaleMadeupAlpinegoat


:lmao double teamed and still able to paw at the RB with his off arm

http://www.gfycat.com/ConcernedTediousImpala#

and then on the next play to force a punt... https://vine.co/v/OXHFFKIhhpV


He's one of the best defensive players I've ever seen on the raiders, good to have a first round pick that wasn't a bust :lol

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[AlexJones]

:lmao pulling guard rams into him with all the momentum, can't even knock him a step back

http://gfycat.com/PaleMadeupAlpinegoat


:lmao double teamed and still able to paw at the RB with his off arm

http://www.gfycat.com/ConcernedTediousImpala#

and then on the next play to force a punt... https://vine.co/v/OXHFFKIhhpV


He's one of the best defensive players I've ever seen on the raiders, good to have a first round pick that wasn't a bust :lol


Mack's run grade of +45.7 is unreal. The next closest 4-3 OLB has a +18.4 (Per PFF). Wow pic.twitter.com/Nmm3BZga3n (http://t.co/Nmm3BZga3n)
— Chandler Miller (@CM_Draft) December 22, (https://twitter.com/CM_Draft/status/547089896960036864)

[Holden_Caulfield]

:lmao pulling guard rams into him with all the momentum, can't even knock him a step back

http://gfycat.com/PaleMadeupAlpinegoat


:lmao double teamed and still able to paw at the RB with his off arm

http://www.gfycat.com/ConcernedTediousImpala#

and then on the next play to force a punt... https://vine.co/v/OXHFFKIhhpV


He's one of the best defensive players I've ever seen on the raiders, good to have a first round pick that wasn't a bust :lol

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easily the best draft of 2014 :cry

[spurraider21]

easily the best draft of 2014 :cry
we're most likely ending up at #5 again. assuming titans/bucs both grab QB's and the Jags grab an OT, leonard williams could fall to us... that would be nice. amari cooper otherwise

[Holden_Caulfield]

we're most likely ending up at #5 again. assuming titans/bucs both grab QB's and the Jags grab an OT, leonard williams could fall to us... that would be nice. amari cooper otherwise
nigga we are getting leonard williams, we arent gonna take an RT with the 3rd pick :lol

[spurraider21]

nigga we are getting leonard williams, we arent gonna take an RT with the 3rd pick :lol
gotta protect Blake the future Bortles :lol

he's been getting clobbered this year tbh

[Holden_Caulfield]

gotta protect Blake the future Bortles :lol

he's been getting clobbered this year tbh
forreal nigga has been the most sacked qb this season sans kraep :cry

but there are better value in the later rounds for an RT

[Silver&Black]

we're most likely ending up at #5 again. assuming titans/bucs both grab QB's and the Jags grab an OT, leonard williams could fall to us... that would be nice. amari cooper otherwise

I can see amari cooper as a future pro bowl type WR....that would be a great pickup for da raiders.

I've seen a lot of people on this site and "the experts" on TV saying that TB will not go QB with the 1st pick.

Me....I can't see any other pick other than marcus mariota making any sense. We need a QB that bad. McCown and Glennon are not the answer. We play in the worst division of all time and yet we can't get one divisional win....smh.

[spurraider21]

forreal nigga has been the most sacked qb this season sans kraep :cry

but there are better value in the later rounds for an RT
Chiefs took Fisher #1 overall when they still had Albert at LT... Jags could be having second thoughts about Joeckel tbh

[Holden_Caulfield]

Chiefs took Fisher #1 overall when they still had Albert at LT... Jags could be having second thoughts about Joeckel tbh
if i remember correctly albert wanted to get paid top dollar, same thing when the jags took joeckel and they had monroe. the situation is different this time, joeckel will get another year because it was essentially his rookie year this season.

leonard williams would pair up with sendrick marks and recreate the henderson and stroud days :cry :cry

but if for some reason leonard slides to the raiders, wow reggie mackenzie is gonna be mayor of oakland :lol

[Holden_Caulfield]

I can see amari cooper as a future pro bowl type WR....that would be a great pickup for da raiders.

I've seen a lot of people on this site and "the experts" on TV saying that TB will not go QB with the 1st pick.

Me....I can't see any other pick other than marcus mariota making any sense. We need a QB that bad. McCown and Glennon are not the answer. We play in the worst division of all time and yet we can't get one divisional win....smh.
i think the rg3 effect will not make the decision any easier but QB should be the pick. who is gonna be your OC?

[spurraider21]

if i remember correctly albert wanted to get paid top dollar, same thing when the jags took joeckel and they had monroe. the situation is different this time, joeckel will get another year because it was essentially his rookie year this season.

leonard williams would pair up with sendrick marks and recreate the henderson and stroud days :cry :cry

but if for some reason leonard slides to the raiders, wow reggie mackenzie is gonna be mayor of oakland :lol
williams would fit so damn well because he can play end or tackle, and our D shuffles around between a 3-4 and 4-3... and we need another playmaker up front to free up Mack and Sio Moore. we'd absolutely need to get a WR in free agency or in round 2 if that's the route though

[Silver&Black]

i think the rg3 effect will not make the decision any easier but QB should be the pick. who is gonna be your OC?

I heard they might bring back Jeff Tedford if his health problems get better. Then again...they might clean house. I don't even know if Lovie survives this year....

Honestly, I don't have a clue to what they're gonna do.

[spurraider21]

Charles Woodson re-upped for another year. he's inconsistent but can still hold the position down. probably will be his last year

[Pelicans78]

What would have happened with the Raiders if they had drafted Calvin Johnson over Jamarcus Russell in 2007? And say signed a veteran like Jeff Garcia?

[spurraider21]

What would have happened with the Raiders if they had drafted Calvin Johnson over Jamarcus Russell in 2007? And say signed a veteran like Jeff Garcia?
If you look back at our first round picks in the 2000's... you can see exactly why we've been a joke

2000 - Janikowski (K)
2001 - Derrick Gibson (FS)
2002 - Napoleon Harris (MLB) and Philip Buchanon (CB)
2003 - Tyler Brayton (DE) and Nnamdi Asomugha (CB)
2004 - Robert Gallery (LT)
2005 - Fabian Washington (CB)
2006 - Michael Huff (FS)
2007 - JaMarcus Russell (QB)
2008 - Darren McFadden (RB)
2009 - Darrius Heyward-Bey (WR)
2010 - Rolando McClain (MLB)
2011 - Traded pick for Richard Seymour
2012 - Traded pick for Carson Palmer
2013 - D.J. Hayden (CB)

jury is still out on Hayden, but :lol at that list. outside of Nnamdi, nobody there returned first round value.

[Aztecfan03]

If you look back at our first round picks in the 2000's... you can see exactly why we've been a joke

2000 - Janikowski (K)
2001 - Derrick Gibson (FS)
2002 - Napoleon Harris (MLB) and Philip Buchanon (CB)
2003 - Tyler Brayton (DE) and Nnamdi Asomugha (CB)
2004 - Robert Gallery (LT)
2005 - Fabian Washington (CB)
2006 - Michael Huff (FS)
2007 - JaMarcus Russell (QB)
2008 - Darren McFadden (RB)
2009 - Darrius Heyward-Bey (WR)
2010 - Rolando McClain (MLB)
2011 - Traded pick for Richard Seymour
2012 - Traded pick for Carson Palmer
2013 - D.J. Hayden (CB)

jury is still out on Hayden, but :lol at that list. outside of Nnamdi, nobody there returned first round value.

WHat kind of lunatic picks a kicker in the first? I though Kaeding in round 3 was high.