Woj: Spurs have traded De Colo for Austin Daye

[DPG21920]

Link? If you can post where I said that trading De Colo will cost the Spurs the title explicitly, I will not only leave the site forever, but pay you $50.

If you can't though, I want you to agree to leave ST forever, deal?

[DPG21920]

Convenient that Chump posts something he says he cannot prove :lol

So Chump says people argue about things that don't matter and are "tiny", but he proceeds to post about things that no one can prove? That's just him protecting his rep so he can never be wrong I guess. How can you be wrong if you post stuff that no one can prove?

Also, can you please explicitly explain how my guidelines on how to prove what you said would not work? If you say that it was obvious that I would hate any trade and you saw it coming because it's what I do, why wouldn't looking up the past few trades and my comments not be sufficient to support that?

[Chewbacca]

:lmao

[Chinook]

I don't have an anti-Green bias. On the contrary, I've been a Green fan since before the Spurs even picked him up. He's just not physically strong enough to guard James in the post.

Leonard needs less help though. Ideally, Green needs a full on double team in the post. That is why Pop went away from that match-up.

Whether there was a single straight up block or not is semantics. To act like many of the names I mentioned aren't better suited to defending James makes no sense.

They aren't. It's not just about being big. James isn't a center. You have to be able to guard him all over the court. That's why Diaw was the worst of the three primary James defenders. Lebron just started taking him off the dribble. Green is a strong post defender for his size, has great lateral mobility and elite anticipation. That's what makes him the team's best on-ball defender. Regardless of whether you think Green wad overmatched against James, it didn't show up in the stat sheet. He has been a good James defender, likely better than any of those you're assuming are better just because of their size. We don't have to speculate on whether he can get the job done. He already has.

And to say Leonard didn't need help is pointless. They both got the same amount of help and both ended up with similar lines against James.

[RD2191]

Despite how annoying Chump can be, you are worse Chew.
:cry

[DPG21920]

:cry

Huh?

[ace3g]

Jabari Young @jabari_young
(https://twitter.com/jabari_young)Austin Daye's official number will be No. 23 with the #Spurs (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Spurs) #NBA (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23NBA)



#NextJordan

[RD2191]

Huh?
Nothing, I'm bored and you're short.

[DPG21920]

23 is stands for the average SF PER against him tbh..

[DPG21920]

Nothing, I'm bored and you're short.

Only physically.

[RD2191]

Jabari Young @jabari_young
(https://twitter.com/jabari_young)Austin Daye's official number will be No. 23 with the #Spurs (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Spurs) #NBA (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23NBA)



#NextJordan


Well that's that. Here comes trophy number 5.

[RD2191]

Only physically.
You have a tall presence.

[wildchild]

Crappy deadline after a crappy summer. Spurs could have done so much more especially with Bonner's contract.

There's no way to become more attractive Bonner's expiring contract... :(

[AFBlue]

For the amount of minutes Daye is going to get, we might as well have signed Royce White... at least we would be being good sports and promoting mental health treatment...

What are you talking about? The Spurs are bringing this famished dude to the land of Whataburger and Tex-Mex. Stopping hunger one Chophouse Cheddar Burger at a time.

[ace3g]

San Antonio Spurs @spurs (https://twitter.com/spurs)


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6:57pm · 20 Feb 14 (https://twitter.com/spurs/status/436665865098903552) · TweetDeck (https://about.twitter.com/products/tweetdeck)

[ElNono]

What are you talking about? The Spurs are bringing this famished dude to the land of Whataburger and Tex-Mex. Stopping hunger one Chophouse Cheddar Burger at a time.

how silly of me. you're correct, sir

[TD 21]

They aren't. It's not just about being big. James isn't a center. You have to be able to guard him all over the court. That's why Diaw was the worst of the three primary James defenders. Lebron just started taking him off the dribble. Green is a strong post defender for his size, has great lateral mobility and elite anticipation. That's what makes him the team's best on-ball defender. Regardless of whether you think Green wad overmatched against James, it didn't show up in the stat sheet. He has been a good James defender, likely better than any of those you're assuming are better just because of their size. We don't have to speculate on whether he can get the job done. He already has.

And to say Leonard didn't need help is pointless. They both got the same amount of help and both ended up with similar lines against James.

With someone as big and strong as James, it is partially about being big. James isn't stupid and neither are the Heat: If a player as physically over matched as Green is on him, he'll take him into the post. Green is a strong post defender for his size, but his size isn't enough against James and the only reason it didn't show up in the stat (according to you), is because it was limited sample size.

I didn't say Leonard didn't need help, I said he needs less help in the post. More importantly, James didn't play damn near exclusively in the post against him, like he did Green.

[Arcadian]

I don't know anything about Austin Daye, but if he's a small forward then it's obviously a good trade.

We had 4 PGs and 1 SF. Come on, it's a no-brainer.

[ace3g]

Jeff McDonald @JMcDonald_SAEN
(https://twitter.com/JMcDonald_SAEN)One bit of housekeeping: Austin Daye is headed directly to SA; will not be available tomorrow in Phoenix.


Get as much work in with staff be ready for "revenge" game against Pistons.

[TheGoldStandard]

Jeff McDonald @JMcDonald_SAEN
(https://twitter.com/JMcDonald_SAEN)One bit of housekeeping: Austin Daye is headed directly to SA; will not be available tomorrow in Phoenix.


Get as much work in with staff be ready for "revenge" game against Pistons.




Hopefully it's a murder suicide

[Russ]

Jabari Young @jabari_young
(https://twitter.com/jabari_young)Austin Daye's official number will be No. 23 with the #Spurs (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Spurs) #NBA (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23NBA)

Austin won't need a number on his jersey, only a name --- "Austin."

[Chinook]

With someone as big and strong as James, it is partially about being big. James isn't stupid and neither are the Heat: If a player as physically over matched as Green is on him, he'll take him into the post. Green is a strong post defender for his size, but his size isn't enough against James and the only reason it didn't show up in the stat (according to you), is because it was limited sample size.

I didn't say Leonard didn't need help, I said he needs less help in the post. More importantly, James didn't play damn near exclusively in the post against him, like he did Green.

I'm not going to say you didn't watch the games, since you're a Spurs fan. But you misremember them. Lebron faced up almost exclusively for the first four games of the series. Game Five, he posted up almost exclusively, which is why Pop played Diaw after that. But then he started taking Diaw off the dribble. He only posted up Green three times in Game One. He got blocked once, missed another and got fouled on the third. James had much more success draining the long twos the Spurs were letting him have. Again, it's confirmation bias to say Green was overmatched.

Would he be a better James defender if he was exactly the same but bigger? Of course. But that doesn't erase the fact that no NBA team has a better secondary James defender. Would I like another one? Hell yeah. But it's not a major Spurs weakness.

[ElNono]

Hopefully it's a murder suicide

dont hate Daye, he didn't trade himself, tbh

[TheGoldStandard]

dont hate Daye, he didn't trade himself, tbh

Yeah but then we can get some kind of death exception roughly around 4.5Mil

[ElNono]

Yeah but then we can get some kind of death exception roughly around 4.5Mil

You can get that for Bonner/Errors, nobody dies

[TheGoldStandard]

You can get that for Bonner/Errors, nobody dies

If Pop had to choose between death and Bonner/Errors leaving... he'd give them thumbs down...

[ElNono]

If Pop had to choose between death and Bonner/Errors leaving... he'd give them thumbs down...

Just kill Boylen, and we'll call it even

[ace3g]

My theory on #spurs (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23spurs) trade: Pop/RC on phone with GMs, Patty Mills walked by, they said G'Daye Mate (instinctively) and Toronto says ok...

[ChumpDumper]

Convenient that Chump posts something he says he cannot prove :lol

So Chump says people argue about things that don't matter and are "tiny", but he proceeds to post about things that no one can prove? That's just him protecting his rep so he can never be wrong I guess. How can you be wrong if you post stuff that no one can prove?

Also, can you please explicitly explain how my guidelines on how to prove what you said would not work? If you say that it was obvious that I would hate any trade and you saw it coming because it's what I do, why wouldn't looking up the past few trades and my comments not be sufficient to support that?i can see you really want to avoid explaining how you were wrong at all costs.

i'm sure you likes the RJ for Jack trade. Which others did you say were unequivocally good -- nothing your brilliant mind could improve upon?

[TheGoldStandard]

Just kill Boylen, and we'll call it even

Agreed

[ChumpDumper]

Austin won't need a number on his jersey, only a name --- "Austin."Which he will wear in Austin.

[james evans]

they should have included ayres in that trade

[Boomersgold]

Kinda wanted De Colo to stay. I definitely saw major improvements in both his game and his attitude this season. Hope he does well in Toronto.

[024]

I would be surprised if Daye got anything more than garbage time. The Spurs traded one garbage player for another. At least they got the position right...

[DPG21920]

i can see you really want to avoid explaining how you were wrong at all costs.

i'm sure you likes the RJ for Jack trade. Which others did you say were unequivocally good -- nothing your brilliant mind could improve upon?

I can clearly see how you are avoiding that you are wrong at all costs. You won't answer anything directly although they are very simple suggestions. You also just admitted you are a liar. If you already said I would would gnash my teeth at all moves, then turn around and cite the RJ for Jack trade, that shows you either lied to prop your ego up, or you have to admit you were wrong.

Were you wrong? Type out this sentence: "When I typed that it was obvious that DPG wouldn't like this move because he doesn't like any moves, I was ________________"

[jermaine]

So this guy cant even stoot? He's 6'11 an cant play defense or rebound? Please say he can someone! Please

[ChumpDumper]

I can clearly see how you are avoiding that you are wrong at all costs. You won't answer anything directly although they are very simple suggestions. You also just admitted you are a liar. If you already said I would would gnash my teeth at all moves, then turn around and cite the RJ for Jack trade, that shows you either lied to prop your ego up, or you have to admit you were wrong.

Were you wrong? Type out this sentence: "When I typed that it was obvious that DPG wouldn't like this move because he doesn't like any moves, I was ________________"Were you in favor of the RJ/Jack trade?

Show me a link to it.

Are there any others?

Show me links to them.

Or just list them along with the times you were completely wrong.

[Bruno]

So looks like Spurs couldn't get a second round pick while giving up the best player with the best contract. I won't lose sleep over it since De Colo wasn't that good and Daye contract isn't that bad, but that's quite a poor trade. Let's hope Daye will be able to contribute in some way because Spurs have for sure a hole at SF/small ball PF.

The true issue isn't that trade in itself is how Spurs have failed to maximize the opportunity they had given their financial/contractual flexibility since this summer. I just have the feeling they had the tools to improve more the team.

[DPG21920]

Just like you lying about me not liking any trades & just like you lying about me never saying I'm wrong, you look it up. It's right there. The burden of proof is on you. You made the statements, you are the liar. You must prove that you aren't. Either find the last few trades and my negative takes on all of them, or else admit you were wrong.

Search this thread for when I posted about being wrong before or admit you were wrong about that.

These are clear things you said and that are easily provable under these very simple parameters. You seem to be avoiding this a lot for some reason and dodging the questions at hand.

[ElNono]

So looks like Spurs couldn't get a second round pick while giving up the best player with the best contract. I won't lose sleep over it since De Colo wasn't that good and Daye contract isn't that bad, but that's quite a poor trade. Let's hope Daye will be able to contribute in some way because Spurs have for sure a hole at SF/small ball PF.

The true issue isn't that trade in itself is how Spurs have failed to maximize the opportunity they had given their financial/contractual flexibility since this summer. I just have the feeling they had the tools to improve more the team.

it takes two to tango though... maybe they looked and couldn't find/work out a deal they wanted...

[Chewbacca]

People use me to edit their trash posts when they are busted for lying and scrambling for words


:lmao

[ChumpDumper]

Just like you lying about me not liking any trades & just like you lying about me never saying I'm wrong, you look it up. It's right there. The burden of proof is on you. You made the statements, you are the liar. You must prove that you aren't. Either find the last few trades and my negative takes on all of them, or else admit you were wrong.

Search this thread for when I posted about being wrong before or admit you were wrong about that.

These are clear things you said and that are easily provable under these very simple parameters. You seem to be avoiding this a lot for some reason and dodging the questions at hand.so you were against the Jack/RJ trade?

OK. That's just as easy to believe. If you can't answer a yes or no question straight you must have something to hide.

[ChumpDumper]

ChumpDumper hurt me, so my child must suffer.

[Chewbacca]

:lmao

:lmao

[DPG21920]

Now Chump is shifting the goalposts. It went from "DPG obviously hating every trade" to "were you wrong about your opinion of the trade". Two very different things. Why the shift? You still haven't admitted you were wrong/lied about me not liking any trade.

Let's get through that first, then we can go onto your shifted argument.

[ChumpDumper]

i am fully vaccinated. I neglected to vaccinate my child.

[DPG21920]

so you were against the Jack/RJ trade?

OK. That's just as easy to believe. If you can't answer a yes or no question straight you must have something to hide.

You not answering my yes or no's even when I offer a clear solution shows you have a huge ego, care about your rep and will never admit to being wrong.

But you also say you post about stuff that can't be proven, so there's that too.

Let it go Chump. I bet you can't. I bet you post after this one in this thread while I don't.

[ChumpDumper]

Now Chump is shifting the goalposts. It went from "DPG obviously hating every trade" to "were you wrong about your opinion of the trade". Two very different things. Why the shift? You still haven't admitted you were wrong/lied about me not liking any trade.

Let's get through that first, then we can go onto your shifted argument.Well, which trades have you liked?

Let's go by your record.

List them and provide links.

And while you were at it, go ahead and list all the times you were completely wrong in your predictions.

[Chewbacca]

:lmao

:lmao

[ChumpDumper]

You not answering my yes or no's even when I offer a clear solution shows you have a huge ego, care about your rep and will never admit to being wrong.

But you also say you post about stuff that can't be proven, so there's that too.

Let it go Chump. I bet you can't. I bet you post after this one in this thread while I don't.Of course I can't prove a negative. What is so difficult to understand about that?

You are free to prove me wrong with one link. I already gave you an instance where I am probably wrong, but you didn't even run with that one. Was I wrong in thinking I was wrong?

That's possible.

[Bruno]

it takes two to tango though... maybe they looked and couldn't find/work out a deal they wanted...

Maybe...

It's difficult to judge a trade deadline when a team doesn't do a significant trade since you don't know what was on the table. It's just disappointing.

However, I would be way more critical regarding their summer where they blow their cap space for Ayres and Bonner.

[Chewbacca]

:lmao

[Mugen]

-Ayres has been the only really quantifiable miss for the Front Office since last season IMO. Even the most pessimistic Spurfan couldn't have expected him to be this bad.
-Getting AK would have been an obvious slam dunk but you can't put him taking under the table money on RC/Pop.
-Beli has been a big upgrade over Neal IMO

I'll give them til after the buyout period to fully assess but no other contender has hit any home runs since last season either tbh.

[ElNono]

Maybe...

It's difficult to judge a trade deadline when a team doesn't do a significant trade since you don't know what was on the table. It's just disappointing.

However, I would be way more critical regarding their summer where they blow their cap space for Ayres and Bonner.

I would've bet they would make a move at this deadline, seeing RC was pretty clear about the "big hole" behind Kawhi. With that in mind, I'm thinking they looked at options, but either there was nothing there or couldn't pull it off...

I was looking at the Spurs 'assets' the last few days, and I couldn't see how they could pull anything off if they were not willing to part with Bonner, which apparently they don't want to do.

[look_at_g_shred]

What's worse game 6 or Ayres?

[r0drig0lac]

[QUOTE = Hoops Czar; 7147224] Eles perderam uma de expirar e ganhou um cara que vai ser amarrar uma lista no próximo ano. Isso no meu livro é um líquido negativo. [/ QUOTE]




in "my book" A expires that nobody wants, has value 0

[SpursRock20]

I would've bet they would make a move at this deadline, seeing RC was pretty clear about the "big hole" behind Kawhi. With that in mind, I'm thinking they looked at options, but either there was nothing there or couldn't pull it off...

I was looking at the Spurs 'assets' the last few days, and I couldn't see how they could pull anything off if they were not willing to part with Bonner, which apparently they don't want to do.

I believe this to be the case. I like the guy but he seriously adds no value to this team, especially in the playoffs. The front office should be more concerned about winning and less concerned about keeping someone around just because they personally like him.

[Strategic]

The married couple on this thread......................

[Axegrinder]

How has Daye not gotten bigger tbh.. 6'11'' and barely 200 lbs is almost unheard of. Even skeletons like John Henson and Anthony Randolph are 220+ at 6'11". Perhaps those guys carry 20 lbs. of dong weight...and Daye packs vienna sausage?

[Seventyniner]

Maybe...

It's difficult to judge a trade deadline when a team doesn't do a significant trade since you don't know what was on the table. It's just disappointing.

However, I would be way more critical regarding their summer where they blow their cap space for Ayres and Bonner.

You also don't usually know what's really available. Maybe the 76ers were asking way too much for Young, or the Jazz insisted on a 1st rounder for Marvin Williams. I'm disappointed as well, but there is so much we'll never know that it's hard to be critical of a move that wasn't made. You can only really judge the ones that were.

[TheGoldStandard]

What can the Spurs realistically expect to get in the draft in 2014? Seriously if you buy the hype it's top heavy not full of great solid players. Knowing the front office who always like to skimp on money they'll draft and stash some nobody who we'll speculate will come over and play for us in 6 years.

[SupremeGuy]

They lost an expiring and gained a guy who will be tying up a roster next year. That in my book is a net negative.Dude, this guy is no different from Green, tbh.

Look at him when he was with the Cavs/whatever other team, and look at him now. He's tall, can drain the 3, and will play backup 3(which we sorely needed).

[Russo21]

Austin Darren Daye is an American professional basketball player who currently plays for the San Antonio Spurs of the NBA. Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austin_Daye) Damn Wiki update their shit fast

[Russo21]

Feel sorry for Tim. At this point I wouldn't give a shit if he requested to be waived and went to the thunder or heat for rings 5 and 6

[freetiago]

lateral move at best for a talented scrub for a straight scrub
in the playoffs the backcourt rotation will be

Mills
Belinelli
Manu

then Diaw/Splitter at PF/C

[exstatic]

Austin Darren Daye is an American professional basketball player who currently plays for the San Antonio Spurs of the NBA. Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austin_Daye) Damn Wiki update their shit fast

You know that it's crowd sourced, right?

[Russo21]

You know that it's crowd sourced, right? nope lol :) I do now thx

[SanDiegoSpursFan]

Imma root for Nando, dude was a decent player and had big balls.

[pgardn]

Inconsequential nothing move.

11 pages...

[Ice009]

Man, James Johnson would have been absolutely perfect for the Spurs, sad that Hollinger beat RC to it, tbh:(..

I wouldn't have expected the Spurs to miss out on a D-League prospect..

Didn't the Spurs have him in during the off season for as workout? I thought they passed.

[ace3g]

Didn't the Spurs have him in during the off season for as workout? I thought they passed.

Yes, but he then signed with the Hawks before being waived after the preseason. He then signed with the D-league where I first noticed (in a game against Toros) his weight loss/improved ball handling/perimeter speed.

So not sure if he was in shape during the Spurs workout or going to the D-league really lit a fire under him.

[ace3g]

It will be interesting to hear Pop's assessment of Daye tomorrow during pregame interviews.

[KL2]

I expect Austin will be sent to Austin in these upcoming dayes.

[siraulo23]

^ not too bad

[ace3g]

http://a.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=/i/headshots/nba/players/full/3976.png&w=350&h=254

[Sean Cagney]

Imma root for Nando, dude was a decent player and had big balls.

When did he prove here he had big balls? I agree good luck to him though.

[SanDiegoSpursFan]

When did he prove here he had big balls? I agree good luck to him though.
He's got confidence issues. But when Pop threw him into the starting line-up for the Miami game on national TV, he performed way better than I had expected.

[Sean Cagney]

He's got confidence issues. But when Pop threw him into the starting line-up for the Miami game on national TV, he performed way better than I had expected.

Yeah that would mean he doesn't have big balls if he has confidence issues! I know one game and he did okay, but that doesn't mean he has big balls until he does it in a big game in the playoffs or near that time. I wish him well though wherever he ends up.

[SupremeGuy]

Feel sorry for Tim. At this point I wouldn't give a shit if he requested to be waived and went to the thunder or heat for rings 5 and 6:td:td

[Raven]

i like the move, nando was crap and he played at an extremely deep position, daye at least has some sort of potential, although none can really expect him to live up to it at this point.

[21209]

I like the trade. His three-point shooting fits the system and he's not a bad defensive rebounder.

He's lousy on defense. Then again, so is Matt Bonner.

Nando pouted about playing time, so SA got something in return.

[timmy2003]

Good trade. I love his length.

[TJastal]

Feel sorry for Tim. At this point I wouldn't give a shit if he requested to be waived and went to the thunder or heat for rings 5 and 6

:lol

While exstatic and the rest of the popsuckers fellate the F.O.

[Bruno]

Nando gave an interview about the trade to his local newspaper:

Nando, how do you feel about this mid season trade?
I'm a little surprised. Not by the trade itself but by the whole thing. It's the first time it happens to me so I'm not an expert in that. In Europe, you usually don't go to a new team in the middle of a season. The word "traded" could be surprising because it isn't in our Euro mentality but when you are ready for it, it went easier. It could turn into a positive for me.

Did you asked to be traded?
It could be a good thing towards my situation with Spurs where I lack of playing time. I've played a little more these past few weeks because of injuries but when everybody would have been back, it would have become harder instantly. It's a new start with, I hope, a little more playing time and an opportunity to catch. I haven't necessarily asked to be traded. I've talked with the coach about a possible trade by telling him that, if I didn't get more playing time, a trade could be a good thing. He understood my view and told me that it was too difficult for him to give playing time for everybody, that he has made his choices and that the franchise would work on a trade in our best interest.

Are Raptors a good landing spot?
I haven't really thought about it. It's my American agent who talked about Toronto. It's a really good team, with very good results, that is third in the east, with good facilities and that played a quite good game. It's up to me to find my place in a team that is also working well and not to let this opportunity go away. It's a new start. I would know more about it once I will be there and when I would have talked with the coach about what role they want me to play. After that, let's go to work!

What will remain on you stint with Spurs? A feeling a failure, disappointment?
I've learned a lot with that team and globally with the whole franchise. It's really a professional setup. You are learning day after day. I've really enjoyed being a part of this team. There is too the disappointment to never have had regular playing time. It was what was lacking to me. Choices have been made and sadly it wasn't in my way.

Did you have time to say good bye to that Spurs?
They had still left the hotel. Tony send me a text message. Boris went to see me before leaving. I've received other messages. Matt Bonner told me that if I needed help, he knew some people in Toronto. I've been able to talk with the two assistants coaches who told me they've really enjoyed having worked with me and I told them it was a shared feeling.

[Russo21]

It's a really good team, with very good results, that is third in the east, with good facilities and that played a quite good game.. :lolI thought that must have been a typo reading Toronto are 3rd in the East and are a really good team. Low and behold I just looked at the standings and the Raptors are indeed 3rd with a record of 29-25. In the West they'd be 2 games out of a playoff spot sitting in 10th. Glad you've gone to a good home up North Nando lol :hat

[travis2]

So how soon does "freeAustin" crash this party?

[travis2]

Elliott on the trade

http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2014/02/20/podcast-sean-elliott-talks-spurs-trade-rodeo-trip-and-patty-mills/

Sean mentioned Baynes being a little banged up. How?!? Does he have an infected splinter in his ass from the bench?

[urunobili]

I wanted Daye when the draft he participated happened. Maybe in a limited role in the right system he'll shine :D

[I. Hustle]

No, you don't get it. If Daye plays more than 5 meaningful minutes, he inevitably hurts the team more than a rarely used SG. I guess because he's 6'11", he should move to the front of the line because the Spurs need bigs and he's big and that makes him useful. Only a clown thinks a player who can't crack a fringe playoff team's roster is good enough to play back up to Kawhi on a contender.

Oh my bad. I guess I shouldn't have suggested that he be placed in the starting lineup. Wait a second... I never said that. You and DPG are getting a stick up your ass for nothing. The dude isn't going to be a big role player but if Tony gets hurt we have back up. You saw what happened when Kawheezy got hurt.
Nobody is calling him the face of the franchise. Juat saying he is good for a few good fouls. Plus he's 25 and it's not like players haven't done better in different systems. DeColo was a Toro not a Spur and this guy is only going to be a Spur because he gets to put on the jersey. You are getting your panties in a wad for nothing.

[bklynspursfan]

Austin Daye ‏@Adaye5 (https://twitter.com/Adaye5) 58s (https://twitter.com/Adaye5/status/436867883247730689)
In first class on this flight to San Antonio and my legs still scrunched up smh #tallpplproblems (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23tallpplproblems&src=hash)

[Chewbacca]

:lol

While exstatic and the rest of the popsuckers fellate the F.O.

:lmao

[kaji157]

Scrub guard for a scrub big, at least scrub bigs are more usefull.

[look_at_g_shred]

Shouldn't he be going to phx to join the team?

[bklynspursfan]

CIA Pop :pop:?

http://i58.tinypic.com/2nspyd.jpg

[cd021]

Shouldn't he be going to phx to join the team?

Spurs have 4 days off after tonight. I'd assume he'd join up with him in San Antonio and practice. He could play sometime next week. We play Detroit and Charlotte at home so he could get some burn.

[superbigtime]

I wish it was Cojo who woulda been traded. He SUX. Good luck to Nando. At least Austin Daye is a decent fit for the roster, but truly I expect nothing of him and I hope he rides the end of the bench the rest of the season. He is a weakling with little talent. Definitely not what I was hoping for. Overall after thinking it over, pretty much no impact from this trade. Doesn't make us much better, if at all.

[wildbill2u]

Bruno:

Suppose you had the ability to veto this trade. Would you have kept Nando? Forget about using him for trade or any other reason next year. We have holes to fill now.

We don't know if Daye will be a plus, but most folks think Nando wasn't a plus, maybe a minor negative on the roster. Pop said a few weeks ago that we needed to get younger and more athletic on the front line, so at least this is an attempt to fill that need.

Not a home run maybe, but sometimes a bunt single will help.

[TheCerebral1]

Shrug, moving on. :)

[moisaenz]

I like the trade. His three-point shooting fits the system and he's not a bad defensive rebounder.

He's lousy on defense. Then again, so is Matt Bonner.

Nando pouted about playing time, so SA got something in return.

Is he lousy on defense because of his physical deficiencies or does he just get lost ? Bonner is pretty smart but physically he is just so unathletic..

[Chinook]

Daye used to be a gamer. He took (and made) a lot of clutch shots his sophomore year. I think he has upside as a taller Neal. Won't get playing time this season, but he probably will get some next season. More than De Colo did this year.

[loveforthegame]

I hope Pop gives Daye a chance to show something. He cannot be worse than Ayers or Brown (who will be gone after tonight I'm sure).

[tholdren]

I hope Pop gives Daye a chance to show something. He cannot be worse than Ayers or Brown (who will be gone after tonight I'm sure).

He wont.. pop is a dipshit. Shout out to tim duncans coattails

[TD 21]

I'm not going to say you didn't watch the games, since you're a Spurs fan. But you misremember them. Lebron faced up almost exclusively for the first four games of the series. Game Five, he posted up almost exclusively, which is why Pop played Diaw after that. But then he started taking Diaw off the dribble. He only posted up Green three times in Game One. He got blocked once, missed another and got fouled on the third. James had much more success draining the long twos the Spurs were letting him have. Again, it's confirmation bias to say Green was overmatched.

Would he be a better James defender if he was exactly the same but bigger? Of course. But that doesn't erase the fact that no NBA team has a better secondary James defender. Would I like another one? Hell yeah. But it's not a major Spurs weakness.

It is a major weakness when the primary one has had a fairly significant injury in back to back seasons, with no (in the NBA, at least) track record of sustained durability prior to that.

All I'm saying is, they shouldn't operate under the premise of, if Leonard's healthy and stays out of foul trouble, we're fine. Instead, they should do the opposite, because the way they're currently constructed, if the opposite does in fact happen against those teams, they're done, without a puncher's chance. It's beyond stupid to chance it.

[ace3g]

adfiv5 (http://instagram.com/adfiv5) 1 hour ago
New Daye New Number 23 #AD23 #SanAntonio #Spurs @officialspurs (http://instagram.com/officialspurs) So blessed to be apart of such a great team and organization!!

http://distilleryimage4.ak.instagram.com/a2be7a4c9c2e11e396fb12babb24b818_8.jpg

[look_at_g_shred]

Now that I've had time to soak in the trade, this guy won't be on the playoff rotation. I don't know why I thought he would be lol

[TMT®]

Now that I've had time to soak in the trade, this guy won't be on the playoff rotation. I don't know why I thought he would be lol

Just the general hope of all Spurs fans to think any new addition might be a game changer. I'm sure most were thinking this right after the trade. :lol
Plus, Pop never lets new additions into the playoff rotation anyway.

Who knows maybe Patty can brush him up on the latest towel waving techniques.

[td4mvp2k]

adfiv5 (http://instagram.com/adfiv5) 1 hour agoNew Daye New Number 23 #AD23 #SanAntonio #Spurs @officialspurs (http://instagram.com/officialspurs) So blessed to be apart of such a great team and organization!!dats a start... spurs may be wat he needz tbh

[weeks]

i still remember getting my hopes up for tmac. sigh.

[exstatic]

i still remember getting my hopes up for tmac. sigh.

That would be like getting your hopes up for Artest this year.

[Ice009]

Man, I actually forgot this guy was on the team. Yesterday, I was thinking that we'd have two roster spots open if we let Shannon Brown go and could sign up to two of the buyout players. Then I saw this thread pop up to the top of the page and I remembered the Spurs traded for Austin Daye :(.

I think the Spurs would have been better off trading Nando for a trade exception without taking another player back, just to open up another roster spot.

[tholdren]

I just hope he gets some minutes so that we can see what he has or has not

[Kidd K]

He is kinda awful, but at least he's tall as fuck. If they D league him for a year or so, maybe he'll become servicable in the future? Spurs rarely get anyone that big, so any time they do tbh I'm interested.

[exstatic]

He is kinda awful, but at least he's tall as fuck. If they D league him for a year or so, maybe he'll become servicable in the future? Spurs rarely get anyone that big, so any time they do tbh I'm interested.

No DLeague for Daye. He has too many NBA years of service to be optioned without his permission.

[ABC]

He is kinda awful, but at least he's tall as fuck. If they D league him for a year or so, maybe he'll become servicable in the future? Spurs rarely get anyone that big, so any time they do tbh I'm interested.

"NBA teams can assign players who are rookies or in their second season to their D-League affiliate. Players can stay with the D-League affiliate for as long as the NBA team wishes, and be recalled back to the NBA at any time."

Others "may be assigned to their NBA D-League affiliate with their consent and the consent of the NBA Players Association."

http://www.nba.com/dleague/santacruz/dleague_faqs.html

This is Daye's fifth season.

[ABC]

Too slow :dramaquee

[Ice009]

5th season? I didn't think he was around that long, should have just went with the open roster spot.

Would the Spurs be willing to cut this guy if they need the roster spot?

I'd prefer Clark, Granger, Metta, any combination of those three over keeping him on the roster.

[timtonymanu]

5th season? I didn't think he was around that long, should have just went with the open roster spot.

Would the Spurs be willing to cut this guy if they need the roster spot?

I'd prefer Clark, Granger, Metta, any combination of those three over keeping him on the roster.

Daye still has an additional year in his contract. If they were to cut somebody, it would most likely be Baynes.

[ace3g]

Nando just checked in for the Raptors

http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=400489709

[exstatic]

Daye still has an additional year in his contract. If they were to cut somebody, it would most likely be Baynes.

More likely Brown. I doubt he's re-signed for the year now that his second 10 day has expired, and that opens a roster spot.

[Ice009]

More likely Brown. I doubt he's re-signed for the year now that his second 10 day has expired, and that opens a roster spot.

I was asking about opening two roster spots, so that is why he mentioned Baynes. I'd rather have two of the buyout players over Austin Daye.

[exstatic]

I was asking about opening two roster spots, so that is why he mentioned Baynes. I'd rather have two of the buyout players over Austin Daye.

We'll be lucky to get one of Granger/Clark. We don't need anyone else. The only good big is signed, and god knows we don't need any more guards.

[Ice009]

We'll be lucky to get one of Granger/Clark. We don't need anyone else. The only good big is signed, and god knows we don't need any more guards.

I'd rather have any combination of the two between Granger, Clark or Metta World Peace than Austin Daye.

[exstatic]

I'd rather have any combination of the two between Granger, Clark or Metta World Peace than Austin Daye.

We're not getting two of them. When we sign one of them, the others will look elsewhere if they haven't already signed somewhere else.

[Kidd K]

"NBA teams can assign players who are rookies or in their second season to their D-League affiliate. Players can stay with the D-League affiliate for as long as the NBA team wishes, and be recalled back to the NBA at any time."

Others "may be assigned to their NBA D-League affiliate with their consent and the consent of the NBA Players Association."

http://www.nba.com/dleague/santacruz/dleague_faqs.html

This is Daye's fifth season.

Thanks for the info, I didn't know the specifics on D league roster movement.

That sorta doesn't say they can't d league him though, just that they have to jump through a hoop or two first by getting consent. :)

[exstatic]

Thanks for the info, I didn't know the specifics on D league roster movement.

That sorta doesn't say they can't d league him though, just that they have to jump through a hoop or two first by getting consent. :)

No player who's been in the league for 5 years is going to consent to being sent to the dleague for " a year or so".

[cd021]

5th season? I didn't think he was around that long, should have just went with the open roster spot.

Would the Spurs be willing to cut this guy if they need the roster spot?

I'd prefer Clark, Granger, Metta, any combination of those three over keeping him on the roster.

Baynes would be the obvious candidate to be cut if they decide to add a couple of players.

[ABC]

Thanks for the info, I didn't know the specifics on D league roster movement.

:toast


That sorta doesn't say they can't d league him though, just that they have to jump through a hoop or two first by getting consent. :)

True. But I don't think it's common for teams to ask players beyond their second year to go to the D-League unless they're recovering from an injury. He certainly would benefit from it considering he's hardly played basketball this year (or very much the previous few years for that matter).

[superbigtime]

It would be bad mistake to cut Baynes. He is not going to be a regular rotation player, but he can fluster Dwight Howard if Spurs face Rockets in playoffs. He has played in the Olympics, has faced Howard, knows Spurs system. Brown would be the guy to cut.

[ace3g]

Mike Monroe @Monroe_SA
(https://twitter.com/Monroe_SA)New #Spurs (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Spurs) Austin Daye says he weighs 218, not 200 as officially listed; 6-11, 218 sounds better than 6-11, 200

Jeff McDonald @JMcDonald_SAEN
(https://twitter.com/JMcDonald_SAEN)Daye says he envisions himself more as a backup SF than a stretch four ... though he played the latter mostly in practice today.


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[ace3g]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BhQ1en0CcAAjtp0.jpg:large

[Chinook]

I wish this trade happened earlier. As I said before, 2010 Daye actually looked like he was going to be a good player. He probably won't get a lot of chances to be in real game situations like we would have had the team had him the last month.

[Seventyniner]

I wish this trade happened earlier. As I said before, 2010 Daye actually looked like he was going to be a good player. He probably won't get a lot of chances to be in real game situations like we would have had the team had him the last month.

But given that Daye has sucked, maybe he would have been as unproductive in SA while taking minutes from more deserving players.

Anyway, I can't tell if the Spurs actually view Daye as a reclamation project or just want his mostly unguaranteed salary for draft-day deals. Maybe both.

[Mel_13]

But given that Daye has sucked, maybe he would have been as unproductive in SA while taking minutes from more deserving players.

Anyway, I can't tell if the Spurs actually view Daye as a reclamation project or just want his mostly unguaranteed salary for draft-day deals. Maybe both.

My feeling is that when they viewed the assets received in return for Nando, they ranked them in this order:

1. 1.4M trade exception

2. Mostly unguaranteed contract for draft day deals.

3. Daye's potential value as an NBA player.

[Chinook]

But given that Daye has sucked, maybe he would have been as unproductive in SA while taking minutes from more deserving players.

Anyway, I can't tell if the Spurs actually view Daye as a reclamation project or just want his mostly unguaranteed salary for draft-day deals. Maybe both.

As Mel said, they get a $1.563 Million TE, which is probably the best asset the Spurs have had in a while (that they'd be willing to use). I think they like him as a player, though. He as a rare combination of shooting and height. Even if they don't consider him to the future, I can't see them waiving him until after he competes with LJC and/or Bertans in camp.

[Mel_13]

As Mel said, they get a $1.563 Million TE, which is probably the best asset the Spurs have had in a while (that they'd be willing to use). I think they like him as a player, though. He as a rare combination of shooting and height. Even if they don't consider him to the future, I can't see them waiving him until after he competes with LJC and/or Bertans in camp.

That contract becomes fully guaranteed on June 30th.

[Seventyniner]

As Mel said, they get a $1.563 Million TE, which is probably the best asset the Spurs have had in a while (that they'd be willing to use). I think they like him as a player, though. He as a rare combination of shooting and height. Even if they don't consider him to the future, I can't see them waiving him until after he competes with LJC and/or Bertans in camp.

I didn't think a TE could be combined with another player. If not, how much value would it have?

[Mel_13]

I didn't think a TE could be combined with another player. If not, how much value would it have?

It can't be combined. It can be used to take back a contract up to 1.563M.

[RD2191]

Why in the hell is this thread 13 pages? We traded a scrub for a scrub. This dude might get garbage time minutes.

[Mel_13]

Why in the hell is this thread 13 pages? We traded a scrub for a scrub. This dude might get garbage time minutes.

:lmao

[Chinook]

That contract becomes fully guaranteed on June 30th.

Considering they were willing to pay the rest of Thomas' contract, I don't think they'd be opposed to paying Daye not to play. The fact is the team may well go into next season with nothing but prospects behind Leonard. Daye has just as much of a chance of winning a YC competition as Bertans and Jean-Charles do.

[Chinook]

I didn't think a TE could be combined with another player. If not, how much value would it have?

It can't. Nor can it be traded. Bruno says the Spurs used the min exception to take Daye. If that's true, they essentially traded De Colo for nothing, which would create a TE for De Colo's full salary plus $100k.

[Mel_13]

Considering they were willing to pay the rest of Thomas' contract, I don't think they'd be opposed to paying Daye not to play. The fact is the team may well go into next season with nothing but prospects behind Leonard. Daye has just as much of a chance of winning a YC competition as Bertans and Jean-Charles do.

A bit apples and oranges as Daye's contract will count against next year's cap, but you're probably right. The difference in potential cap space is very small and the Spurs will probably be using the MLE this summer anyway.

[Chinook]

A bit apples and oranges as Daye's contract will count against next year's cap, but you're probably right. The difference in potential cap space is very small and the Spurs will probably be using the MLE this summer anyway.

Yeah, Diaw and potentially Mills will eat the cap space, not to mention the team may not even use most of the MLE if they plan to preserve 2015 cap space. They'll be in the same position they are in this season, I assume.

[Seventyniner]

It can't. Nor can it be traded. Bruno says the Spurs used the min exception to take Daye. If that's true, they essentially traded De Colo for nothing, which would create a TE for De Colo's full salary plus $100k.

Right then. What can a ~$1.6M TE be used for? Get a team just barely over the tax to send you a pick and a player into the TE? Trade the Spurs' first-round pick for a good player on their rookie contract and a second-rounder?

[Mel_13]

Yeah, Diaw and potentially Mills will eat the cap space

Poor Patty. There's usually not much left on the table after Boris eats.

[Chinook]

Right then. What can a ~$1.6M TE be used for? Get a team just barely over the tax to send you a pick and a player into the TE? Trade the Spurs' first-round pick for a good player on their rookie contract and a second-rounder?

Yes. And it would let them claim certain players they couldn't this season. It would make for an interesting draft night.

[Chinook]

Poor Patty. There's usually not much left on the table after Boris eats.


:lol

[ace3g]

Video: 1-on-1 with Spurs forward Austin Daye (http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2014/02/24/video-1-on-1-with-spurs-forward-austin-daye/)
http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2014/02/24/video-1-on-1-with-spurs-forward-austin-daye/

[MeloHype]

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[Bruno]

For people having some doubts about the TE generated, it now appears in espn trade machine.

This trade being good salary/asset wise depends on Duncan decision:
- If Duncan retires, Spurs will likely take the cap space road and this trade would have taken away $250K of it. It will hurt Spurs.
- If Duncan continues, Spurs will likely take the MLE and LLE road. The $250K won't matter since Spurs will be far from the luxury tax. The TE and Daye's partially contract are trade assets.

[r0drig0lac]

Poor Patty. There's usually not much left on the table after Boris eats.

http://i.imgur.com/zzSDo.gif

[RD2191]

:lmao
What's funny?

[Mel_13]

What's funny?

Just trying to speak your language.

[RD2191]

Just trying to speak your language.
:violin

[Mel_13]

:violin

:lmao

[Frankie23]

He's like Kevin Durant with better D.. giving the playing time he needs, MVP candidate.

[bluebellmaniac]

He's like Kevin Durant with better D.. giving the playing time he needs, MVP candidate.
That is awesome and so true of what ST builds up of those who are end of benchers.

[ceperez]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g68REwWx0pY

[ceperez]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iio4wlDD_5s

Austin Daye Hightlight Reel.... seems to have more skills the Ayers.

[look_at_g_shred]

That is awesome and so true of what ST builds up of those who are end of benchers.
Dude can't be serious right?

[tholdren]

i see a non-driving kevin martin with his ugly ass shot, zero handles, and 2 inch vert... same damn player. shitty on d as well.

[bklynspursfan]

438386034519195648

[Spur|n|Austin]

438386034519195648

:lol no it doesn't

[ace3g]

Jabari Young @jabari_young
(https://twitter.com/jabari_young)Let's try this again: Express-News 1-on-1 with new #Spurs (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Spurs) forward Austin Daye @Adaye5 (https://twitter.com/Adaye5/) blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/20… (http://t.co/aC92QlGP21) #NBA (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23NBA) pic.twitter.com/oBOgHGUjTo (http://t.co/oBOgHGUjTo)

[Seventyniner]

:lol no it doesn't

It tells you he doesn't give a crap about Daye.

[Chinook]

It more says Duncan loves his teammates and doesn't like to see them traded. I'm sure he'll miss Daye when Austin is cut or leaves.

[Spur|n|Austin]

It more says Duncan loves his teammates and doesn't like to see them traded. I'm sure he'll miss Daye when Austin is cut or leaves.

Bingo.


Jabari Young @jabari_young
(https://twitter.com/jabari_young)Let's try this again: Express-News 1-on-1 with new #Spurs (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Spurs) forward Austin Daye @Adaye5 (https://twitter.com/Adaye5/) blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/20… (http://t.co/aC92QlGP21) #NBA (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23NBA) pic.twitter.com/oBOgHGUjTo (http://t.co/oBOgHGUjTo)



Sounds like a good kid.

[ace3g]

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[timtonymanu]

He looks like the love child of Steph Curry and Jeff Errors.

[NickiRasgo]

He looks CJ Watson's brother.

[ace3g]

Jeff McDonald @JMcDonald_SAEN
(https://twitter.com/JMcDonald_SAEN)Interesting tidbit from pregame. Pop says part of impetus behind Nando trade was that he asked to be moved to better situation.


Jeff McDonald @JMcDonald_SAEN
(https://twitter.com/JMcDonald_SAEN)Pop said GM R.C. Buford had been looking to accommodate De Colo's request for some time.

[Chinook]

Jeff McDonald @JMcDonald_SAEN
(https://twitter.com/JMcDonald_SAEN)Interesting tidbit from pregame. Pop says part of impetus behind Nando trade was that he asked to be moved to better situation.


Jeff McDonald @JMcDonald_SAEN
(https://twitter.com/JMcDonald_SAEN)Pop said GM R.C. Buford had been looking to accommodate De Colo's request for some time.










That's what I guessed. I heard other teams were interested in him. I wonder a) what the other deals were and b) if Canada allows De Colo's fiancée to live with him.

[DJR210]

He looks like the love child of Steph Curry and Jeff Errors.

Mixed in a test tube that Tayshaun spunked in.

[Boomersgold]

De Colo making a name for himself in Toronto:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LznT5lbYyXA

[Chinook]

Good for De Colo. I hope he gets another chance to stay in the league. Spurs still won the trade handily so far.

[superjames1992]

We're going to miss Nando when we lose Patty in the offseason, tbh. :cry

[Prime Time]

We're going to miss Nando when we lose Patty in the offseason, tbh. :cry
We have the towel boy to replace Nando's services, tbh.

[will_spurs]

Good for De Colo. I hope he gets another chance to stay in the league. Spurs still won the trade handily so far.

He's playing even fewer minutes in Toronto than in SA... and he had the same kind of production for the Spurs at times (every time he played over 20 minutes he had decent production). And Austin Daye seems to be the same kind of end of the bench player...

[ABC]

If De Colo would have taken and made a three coming off a screen like he did in the highlights with any sort of regularity he'd still be in San Antonio.

[Kineto]

Raptor fans like him : http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=1313804


De Colo is a pretty good player, Im shocked the Spurs traded him.

seems like a win-win trade ;-)

[exstatic]

Raptor fans like him : http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=1313804



seems like a win-win trade ;-)
Fans of scrub teams have lower standards. They're not as concerned with defense.

[Mel_13]

If De Colo would have taken and made a three coming off a screen like he did in the highlights with any sort of regularity he'd still be in San Antonio.

That's the only one of that sort that he's made with Toronto.

[MaNu4Tres]

That's the only one of that sort that he's made with Toronto.

What is sample size Trebek.

[ABC]

That's the only one of that sort that he's made with Toronto.

Yeah. I don't really think it's in his arsenal. In general he never seemed to have confidence in his shot while in San Antonio, maybe for good reason. Still rooting for him though. With his other skills, he doesn't have to be a great shooter to contribute, but he needs to be at least average to stay on the court.

[Mel_13]

Yeah. I don't really think it's in his arsenal. In general he never seemed to have confidence in his shot while in San Antonio, maybe for good reason. Still rooting for him though. With his other skills, he doesn't have to be a great shooter to contribute, but he needs to be at least average to stay on the court.

He can have a career in the NBA. Whether he's willing to accept the lesser role he'll have in the NBA compared to the one he can have in Europe remains to be seen. Some players would rather be a bigger fish in a smaller pond.

[ABC]

He can have a career in the NBA. Whether he's willing to accept the lesser role he'll have in the NBA compared to the one he can have in Europe remains to be seen. Some players would rather be a bigger fish in a smaller pond.

I think he might be able to make more money in Europe in addition to a larger role. I see him going back to Spain like Fernandez.

[Mel_13]

I think he might be able to make more money in Europe in addition to a larger role. I see him going back to Spain like Fernandez.

I agree. Spanoulis is another example.