Granger "pissed" when learned he had been traded...could sign with Spurs/Heat?

[stephen jackson]

For some reason I get the feeling Granger would like to sign with Spurs. He's use to a small market team. He has more opportunity with the Spurs going forward. George Hill, Scola and Hibbert I'm sure out in good words about the Spurs. He to me seems like a player who wants to play for Spurs for one simple reson, he likes how they run there business. I could be wrong but that's just the impression I get from him.
i hope so....he needs to get bought out first tho....

[Spur|n|Austin]

There, Their, They're.

[spurraider21]

Wouldn't that be tampering?
if they get caught...

[Jwash_1986]

i hope so....he needs to get bought out first tho....
Yea forgot about that. What's the hold up? Is Sixers contemplating on keeping him?

[Ice009]

Wouldn't that be tampering?

He can word it differently "Look, my old team the Spurs, really needs a backup SF. I would like you to consider signing with them IF we buy you out".

[UZER]

The one time someone might wanna come to SA voluntarily and now he won't be bought out.

Figures:lol

[exstatic]

Yea forgot about that. What's the hold up? Is Sixers contemplating on keeping him?

He's had his physical and talked to Hinkie. He wants to talk to Brett first before he definitely asks for a buyout.

[Sean Cagney]

The one time someone might wanna come to SA voluntarily and now he won't be bought out.

Figures:lolYep, that would happen. We got Diaw though that way a few years back so I can't say it never happens.

[poop]

Uhh we already had Beno..years ago...what the fuck is he gonna do now for us?

[Budkin]

We got rid of a PG because we had too many. Let's go get a PG.

[Uriel]

NBA Rumors: San Antonio Spurs eyeing signing Danny Granger, Beno Udrih


http://fansided.com/2014/02/22/nba-rumors-san-antonio-spurs-sign-danny-granger-beno-udrih/
That article is just rehashing rumours from the same source we already know about. The fact that the Spurs also have interest is purely speculation on the author's part.

Plus, how credible is a source that explicitly states in his article that we "stood pat at the deadline" and "made no moves?" He didn't even bother to fact check.

[Baam]

We got rid of a PG because we had too many. Let's go get a PG.

Pop is definitely into gingers and midgets...

[Texas_Ranger]

We got rid of a PG because we had too many. Let's go get a PG.

Only 1 of the PG's on the team can actually make a play and pass the ball.

[cd021]

We got rid of a PG because we had too many. Let's go get a PG.

Reminds me of Rick James

"I have a little more sense than to stick my muddy boots on a couch, yeah i stuck my boots on his couch."

It just doesn't make any sense with Mills and even Joseph likely to get burn in the postseason.

[bklynspursfan]

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[DMC]

Pop is definitely into gingers and midgets...

Pop is into people who don't need to be coddled.

[look_at_g_shred]

Get on the Clark train Pop!

[exstatic]

Granger is due $4.5M for the remainder of the season. He wants the customary 50%, $2.25M. Philly wants to pay him only $1M, because they think they might get something for him this summer.

It's a game. I remember Diaw and Charlotte came down to the last day. Philly is trying to act like they have leverage, but they don't. All Granger has to do is threaten NOT to take whatever shitty offer they have on the table, collect the $4.5M, AND not accept any sign and trades. Philly then pays full salary and gets nothing.

[Spursfanfromafar]

Granger is due $4.5M for the remainder of the season. He wants the customary 50%, $2.25M. Philly wants to pay him only $1M, because they think they might get something for him this summer.

It's a game. I remember Diaw and Charlotte came down to the last day. Philly is trying to act like they have leverage, but they don't. All Granger has to do is threaten NOT to take whatever shitty offer they have on the table, collect the $4.5M, AND not accept any sign and trades. Philly then pays full salary and gets nothing.

I suspect Philly will not go the bargain-too-much route. They have stripped their roster so badly this season that it is clear what their game plan is and if they try to short-change Granger - a respected veteran, it wont go down well with the players they might seek to get in the coming season to round off a young roster. Granger will have to concede some, but not much.

[exstatic]

I suspect Philly will not go the bargain-too-much route. They have stripped their roster so badly this season that it is clear what their game plan is and if they try to short-change Granger - a respected veteran, it wont go down well with the players they might seek to get in the coming season to round off a young roster. Granger will have to concede some, but not much.

He's already conceding the customary 50% of his salary in exchange for his release. I wouldn't give them a penny more. Philly needs to look at his buyout as a $2.25M bonus included in this trade, and do it.

[Chinook]

He's already conceding the customary 50% of his salary in exchange for his release. I wouldn't give them a penny more. Philly needs to look at his buyout as a $2.25M bonus included in this trade, and do it.

Philly's under the minimum salary. They literally save nothing financially by buying him out. Any dollar they don't give to him they have to divide among the other players. Granger has no leverage on them in that regard.

[pad300]

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/232141/Report-76ers-To-Reach-Buyout-Agreement-With-Danny-Granger

A buyout has apparently been arrived at...

[exstatic]

Philly's under the minimum salary. They literally save nothing financially by buying him out. Any dollar they don't give to him they have to divide among the other players. Granger has no leverage on them in that regard.

In that case, they should just release him without cost, if they're required to spend the money anyways.

[mienhmario]

I hope Spurs are pursuing Granger religiously. He is the missing piece to our puzzle. Danny has a quick release and play his back against the rim, which Leonard is still working on. Danny can give us 8ppg easily!

[Chinook]

In that case, they should just release him without cost, if they're required to spend the money anyways.

That's what they did with Clark. But it may be a case of them preferring to give money to the playera who aren't trying to force their ways off the team. The extra $250k could make a world of difference to some of the d-league projects they've signed.

[Phenomanul]

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/232141/Report-76ers-To-Reach-Buyout-Agreement-With-Danny-Granger

A buyout has apparently been arrived at...

:wow second domino has fallen...

[ploto]

Who's the most recent team from the west to make it to the finals?

Who has the best record THIS season in the West?

[Mel_13]

Who has the best record THIS season in the West?

If his priority is a ring, he'll go to Miami.

[SpursFanInAustin]

Who has the best record THIS season in the West?

Same team who had it last season...

[exstatic]

Who has the best record THIS season in the West?


Same team who had it last season...

2012 best record in the WC doesn't make the Finals
2013 best record in the WC doesn't make the Finals

[SpursFanInAustin]

2012 best record in the WC doesn't make the Finals
2013 best record in the WC doesn't make the Finals

Add in 2011 as well.

[Sean Cagney]

Add in 2011 as well.

Yep, best record is irrelevant it seems (Especially for the Spurs). I think the Spurs had it in 03 and won the title, after that when have they had the #1 seed and won a title? It was probably the Suns and Mavs in 05 and 07, period.

[Dex]

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[Spur|n|Austin]

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That's not appealing at all.

[monkeypunk]

That's not appealing at all.

That kind of takes the wind out of my Granger sails...

[Mel_13]

It's not at all clear who wrote that bit or who the sources were. If the Pacers are feeding that sort of stuff to the press, then it's just very bad behavior on their part. Granger was the face of their franchise for almost a decade. If they want to derail his future prospects, they can communicate that stuff directly to their counterparts on other NBA teams.

Using the press to get this information out to the general public smacks of an organization dealing with the backlash resulting from trading a popular player. Slimy behavior.

[debo]

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What does the link go to? It's broken for me

[look_at_g_shred]

438331253129875456
This is almost as credible as him being interested in the Spurs.

[Spur|n|Austin]

This is almost as credible as him being interested in the Spurs.

So you're saying Granger is not interested in joining the Spurs?

[look_at_g_shred]

So you're saying Granger is not interested in joining the Spurs?
Well there is no direct quote from him saying so.

[Spur|n|Austin]

Well there is no direct quote from him saying so.

There's also no quote with him saying he's not interested in the Spurs, or any team for that matter - all we are doing is speculating. There are reports out there that he's interested in the Spurs or Miami, so that's more than anything else we have.

[bklynspursfan]

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[jon123spurs]

So the #cHeat sign Deandre Liggens to a 10 day contract for their last roster spot. Maybe they know something already about Granger.

[exstatic]

Well there is no direct quote from him saying so.

Do you understand that while he's under contract with another team he can't say such things?

[Dex]

I don't write the articles, I just post them:

http://www.ngngsports.com/2014/02/miami-heat-players-reportedly-dont-want-danny-granger.html#


It’s unclear if the Spurs are interested, but according to the Miami Herald, it’s very clear that the Miami Heat players at least are not interested.

The dislike for Granger apparently centers on the way Granger handled himself in the 2012 playoffs. Granger was very physical with LeBron James and nearly frustrated James to the point where the Pacers nearly won the series. The core group of Heat players haven’t forgotten 2012 and they would much rather sign an older Caron Butler than Granger.

Heat players would clearly prefer [Caron] Butler; he and Dwyane Wade are close from their days as Heat teammates, and Granger irritated the Heat’s stars by getting in their faces after fouls in the 2012 playoffs. At the time, LeBron James called Granger’s conduct “stupid.”

So it looks like Granger will have to land with the Spurs or another Western Conference contender.

[palangi]

So the #cHeat sign Deandre Liggens to a 10 day contract for their last roster spot. Maybe they know something already about Granger.
Maybe they don't. There is animosity between granger and the heat. lets not build mountains out of ant hills.

[james evans]

why would any of u want him on the spurs. popovich would just put him on the bench to scare other teams while not even playing him until we were up by 20 in the 4th

[hater]

Sure I take him. Low risk move.

[DesignatedT]

why would any of u want him on the spurs. popovich would just put him on the bench to scare other teams while not even playing him until we were up by 20 in the 4th

We should sign him and start him. That's the way back to the finals!

[look_at_g_shred]

Do you understand that while he's under contract with another team he can't say such things?
Didn't even think about that. Your right bruh!

[Spur|n|Austin]

why would any of u want him on the spurs. popovich would just put him on the bench to scare other teams while not even playing him until we were up by 20 in the 4th

Did you answer your own question Metallica breath?

[bklynspursfan]

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[r0drig0lac]

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[szkorhetz]

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Please make it happen.
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[Ditty]

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[Seventyniner]

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I wonder if the Sixers are more likely to buy out Granger if he wants to go to SA? You know, considering Brett Brown's connection to Pop and the organization. Then again it's a management decision, not a coach's decision.

[bklynspursfan]

I wonder if the Sixers are more likely to buy out Granger if he wants to go to SA? You know, considering Brett Brown's connection to Pop and the organization. Then again it's a management decision, not a coach's decision.

Right... But who knows. Hopefully they can make it happen

[bklynspursfan]

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[Sean Cagney]

agreed with battier and fisher just being spur killers and i'd like to add Ibaka to the list as well.

I would agree here! Battier does do a thing or two or hit a big shot that gets us. The only time he did not in the playoffs was 04 when we swept Memphis! He was big in that game one in 011 as well! He hit the three that did us in. If we win that game we win that series IMO.

Terry used to hit some big shots or go off against us too, hate that dude but some games he would just light us up or hit a big shot against us.

[Sean Cagney]

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Make that happen. Give him some PT as well, can't be worse than no backup SF AT ALL!

[capek]

So has anyone actually paid attention to how Granger has looked this year? Thoughts one the chances of him regaining his for from a few years ago? Or some shadow version at least?

[spurraider21]

So has anyone actually paid attention to how Granger has looked this year? Thoughts one the chances of him regaining his for from a few years ago? Or some shadow version at least?
you didn't hear? we're gna claim the 2008 Granger

[capek]

you didn't hear? we're gna claim the 2008 Granger

Oh nice. Any chance we can get the Heat involved and bundle Granger with the 2013 Championship? CBA works like that, right?

[spurraider21]

Oh nice. Any chance we can get the Heat involved and bundle Granger with the 2013 Championship? CBA works like that, right?
depends if we have a big enough LOBT exception

[capek]

depends if we have a big enough LOBT exception

Hmmm, I'm not a numbers guy, but didn't I read that we got a big one when we signed PederAyers? That's the only reason we signed him, right? I'm sure I read that as being the sole reason.

[Beaverfuzz]

SIGN ON THE LINE THAT IS DOTTED!

[SpurPadre]

438436644211798016

In other words, we're not getting him.

[hater]

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how is this one legged fuck going to make sure he gets PT when it all depends on his knee??

trade his ass

[DJB]

So has anyone actually paid attention to how Granger has looked this year? Thoughts one the chances of him regaining his for from a few years ago? Or some shadow version at least?

The Granger signing will unfortunately be Dick Jefferson 2.0, imho.

All Spurs fan getting their dicks real hard for a guy that's washed up and will be put in rotation by Pop as another spot up 3 point shooter. Granger needs plays run for him to be anywhere near what the average Spurs fan thinks we will be getting... problem is, that's not gonna happen.

[SpurPadre]

how is this one legged fuck going to make sure he gets PT when it all depends on his knee??

trade his ass

I'd rather have that one legged fuck than the D-League retards we've been throwing out there in Bonner, Ayres, and Joseph...and OTHTHTHHTHTHTHTHEYEREYEYERSSUSSUS Jeffers.

[024]

Spurs have no choice, they need to sign Granger because he's still the best option available. The only other option is to sign another fringe NBA player to join Daye, Joseph, Ayres, and Baynes on the bench.

[palangi]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_AQySSZ28Q

[ElNono]

:lol Granger rather stay with the tanking Sixers than the Spurs
:lol Spurs
:lol FA destination

[jon123spurs]

Jake Fischer (@JakeLFischer) tweeted at 3:56 PM on Tue, Feb 25, 2014:
Anticipating a buyout from the Sixers, Danny Granger's camp views San Antonio as the small forward's top choice to sign with, per source.
(https://twitter.com/JakeLFischer/status/438432229497516032)

[ElNono]

I'm kidding obviously, hope we get him :flag:

[mienhmario]

The Granger signing will unfortunately be Dick Jefferson 2.0, imho.

All Spurs fan getting their dicks real hard for a guy that's washed up and will be put in rotation by Pop as another spot up 3 point shooter. Granger needs plays run for him to be anywhere near what the average Spurs fan thinks we will be getting... problem is, that's not gonna happen.

Another dick head Spurs fan. Granger is not washed up. Dude put up double digits on his first game back....Granger is what this team needed. This team does not have the shooting abilities like Granger. Again, Granger has this quick release shooting abilities and he plays his back against the rim. What else does the Spurs need? He is very similar to Kawhi with two fold better on the offensive side. He might not have did well with the Pacers but i believe he will flourished in our system to be a reliable double digit scorer for our bench, damnnit.

[jon123spurs]

Jefferson was asked to be part of the "big 4". Granger will not have that burden on him. To say he will be the next Jefferson 2.0 is ridiculous. All is asked of him is to be a backup for kawhi. That would be a perfect role for him tbh.

[Man In Black]

It's the perfect setup...for him to go to Miami. Just watch.

But seriously, he can't be any worse than Dick Jefferson and unlike that dude, this guy is motivated.

[Budkin]

HAVE to do it RC and Pop. Granger will not only help us in the playoffs, he will most likely be a solid piece for us going forward.

[DJB]

Another dick head Spurs fan. Granger is not washed up. Dude put up double digits on his first game back....Granger is what this team needed. This team does not have the shooting abilities like Granger. Again, Granger has this quick release shooting abilities and he plays his back against the rim. What else does the Spurs need? He is very similar to Kawhi with two fold better on the offensive side. He might not have did well with the Pacers but i believe he will flourished in our system to be a reliable double digit scorer for our bench, damnnit.

Thank you for that phenomenal take, dammnit. :tu You fucking half wit.

[Bruno]

Spurs quite need an additional SF when teams will go small and Spurs will have to match up and put Kawhi at PF. Teams like Thunder, Rockets, Warriors or Heat will surely take that road in the playoffs.

Even if Granger isn't great or even good, he would be a very welcomed addition for Spurs. I'm all for it.

[moisaenz]

Spurs quite need an additional SF when teams will go small and Spurs will have to match up and put Kawhi at PF. Teams like Thunder, Rockets, Warriors or Heat will surely take that road in the playoffs.

Even if Granger isn't great or even good, he would be a very welcomed addition for Spurs. I'm all for it.

Granger would be a good pickup, not the savior though, not RJ 2.0 because Spurs wont offer him the same money as RJ. If they sign him before Kawhi is 100% he might even start a few games...

[Seventyniner]

Spurs quite need an additional SF when teams will go small and Spurs will have to match up and put Kawhi at PF. Teams like Thunder, Rockets, Warriors or Heat will surely take that road in the playoffs.

Even if Granger isn't great or even good, he would be a very welcomed addition for Spurs. I'm all for it.

And those are 4 of the 6 biggest threats to the Spurs, the others being the Clippers and Pacers.

[Robz4000]

Warriors aren't a threat tbh. I'd welcome seeing them in the WCF.

[Mel_13]

Warriors aren't a lock to make the playoffs. They have only two fewer losses than Memphis.

[exstatic]

Granger...

The good: his knee issues aren't structural. No ligaments, no cartlilage. He had the same thing that Tim did a few years ago: tendonosis of the knee. His was obviously more severe, since they went in to clean it out.

The bad: whispers were that he wasn't doing his work to rehab, and that's one of the reasons he was traded away.

[Chinook]

Spurs quite need an additional SF when teams will go small and Spurs will have to match up and put Kawhi at PF. Teams like Thunder, Rockets, Warriors or Heat will surely take that road in the playoffs.

Even if Granger isn't great or even good, he would be a very welcomed addition for Spurs. I'm all for it.

Two of those teams go small mainly by playing two PGs, and GS will probably follow. The Heat play a less mobile SF at the four, which can be guarded by Diaw, Green or Manu relatively easily. Golden State is really the only worry, and I honestly think they won't play with three wings very often if healthy. They have three decent bigs (and another half-decent one) and two PGs who will each get a ton of minutes. I expect Barnes to be minimized. Even if he isn't, he's no one to change the game plan for.

I'd be fine with Granger, but the rotational minutes are already pretty well spoken for.

[wildchild]

It's the perfect setup...for him to go to Miami. Just watch.

But seriously, he can't be any worse than Dick Jefferson and unlike that dude, this guy is motivated.

Granger knows NBA is a business and the only predictable thing in the league is that you can always be traded, but if he was really upset that the Pacers trade him, he could do to Larry Bird exactly what Ray Allen did to Danny Ainge of the Celtics: join his nemesis Miami.

On other hand, Granger thinks that he's still able to play big minutes, so you do the math, LeBron is eating up all minutes at SF -37 mpg-, the Spurs would be perfect for depth behind Leonard -who was playing only 28 per game-, Granger as Spurs SF backup could have more minutes here.

Not sure but maybe LeBron and Wade wouldn't have good chemistry with Granger after 2012 playoffs. http://espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2012/story/_/id/7959318/2012-nba-playoffs-miami-heat-dwyane-wade-lebron-james-take-issue-indiana-pacers-danny-granger

[look_at_g_shred]

Any backup SF is better than no backup SF and please don't say Manu or Green. They aren't "true" SF's

[RD2191]

Danny Granger, Jr. is an American professional basketball player who currently plays for the Oklahoma City Thunder of the National Basketball Association after clearing waivers on February 26, 2014.

[RD2191]

googled danny granger and that came up on the right side of my screen:lol

[Seventyniner]

Warriors aren't a threat tbh. I'd welcome seeing them in the WCF.

By DRtg they are the best defensive team in the West, though. Seems crazy but it's true. That kind of D plus the threat of a hot shooting night could definitely get them to the WCF.

[keepinitwill]

Does anyone know what we could pay him?

[Mel_13]

Does anyone know what we could pay him?

pro-rated portion of the vet minimum salary.

[exstatic]

Does anyone know what we could pay him?

Minimum, only. That's the case for most buyouts. Very few teams save cap room or exceptions this late in the season.

[Hoops Czar]

pro-rated portion of the vet minimum salary.

Don't they have the De Colo trade exception?

[Mel_13]

Don't they have the De Colo trade exception?

Yes, but trade exceptions can't be used for free agent signings.

[Roger Freemason Jr.]

Comparing Jefferson to Granger is just ludicrous. I'm not so sure the Spurs get Granger, but if they do, they should be happy to acquire such a capable SF.

[Robz4000]

By DRtg they are the best defensive team in the West, though. Seems crazy but it's true. That kind of D plus the threat of a hot shooting night could definitely get them to the WCF.

Mark Jackson would be completely outcoached, and any team that has a good DRtg with David Lee getting heavy minutes is fools gold. Also doesn't help Curry has come crashing back to Earth lately in terms of shooting.

[Spurs_Be_Beastin']

Watching NBATV right now and they mentioned Spurs getting Granger...
doesn't mean anything yet, but its starting to sound good since were hearing it from multiple sources.
Come on Danny make it official dog

[Spursfanfromafar]

Mark Jackson would be completely outcoached, and any team that has a good DRtg with David Lee getting heavy minutes is fools gold. Also doesn't help Curry has come crashing back to Earth lately in terms of shooting.

The Warriors' defense with Iguodala and Thompson on the perimeter and Bogut/O'Neal in the paint has been top notch. Lee is still bad and Curry's defense comes & goes, but the Warriors have been better at defense very clearly. What they lack is coordinated offense which is too Curry/Thompson dependent and a decent bench (their current one is inconsistent).

[montgod]

Watching NBATV right now and they mentioned Spurs getting Granger...
doesn't mean anything yet, but its starting to sound good since were hearing it from multiple sources.
Come on Danny make it official dog

This should be interesting...

Now it's Butler in the mix as well with Spurs and Heat. Obviously Heat are the favorites for him to return home...

[Robz4000]

The Warriors' defense with Iguodala and Thompson on the perimeter and Bogut/O'Neal in the paint has been top notch. Lee is still bad and Curry's defense comes & goes, but the Warriors have been better at defense very clearly. What they lack is coordinated offense which is too Curry/Thompson dependent and a decent bench (their current one is inconsistent).

I honestly don't expect O'neal to last and Bogut is already falling apart tbh. You bring up good points about their offense too, so just add that to the list of why they aren't a threat.

[BatManu20]

Latest on Granger's buyout situation with Philly (per Marc Stein)

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/10518671/danny-granger-philadelphia-76ers-talking-contract-buyout

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

ESPN getting on the bandwagon:

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/10518671/danny-granger-philadelphia-76ers-talking-contract-buyout


Newly acquired Danny Granger (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/2760/danny-granger) and the Philadelphia 76ers (http://espn.go.com/nba/team/_/name/phi/philadelphia-76ers) continue to discuss a possible buyout, according to sources close to the process.Sources told ESPN.com on Tuesday that a buyout consummated before Saturday's midnight deadline for Granger to be waived and remain eligible to appear in this season's playoffs with any team he subsequently signs for remains the most likely outcome.
But sources also said Granger continues to weigh other options, including staying with the 76ers for the rest of the season, as the deadline draws near.
Sources said Tuesday the San Antonio Spurs (http://espn.go.com/nba/team/_/name/sa/san-antonio-spurs) and Granger share a mutual interest if the former All-Star comes to a buyout agreement with the Sixers by the weekend.
It's believed the Los Angeles Clippers (http://espn.go.com/nba/team/_/name/lac/los-angeles-clippers) will be another leading suitor for Granger's services should he become an unrestricted free agent next week.
Yet there are risks for Granger in parting company with the rebuilding Sixers. Granger would forfeit his Larry Bird rights in that case and likewise strip Philadelphia of the ability to sign-and-trade him this summer, both of which could impact his earning power in free agency.

[BatManu20]

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[Roger Freemason Jr.]

When can we expect to know?

[Richie]

Another thing I like about a possible Granger signing is it puts us in the best position to resign him if we think he still has something to give. It's far too early to write him off as finished, look what Grant Hill gave the Suns for 5 years on a very cheap contract.

Even if he only gets 15-20mpg in the regular season and no burn in the playoffs, it gives the Spurs front office a first hand look at him to see if he still has it. In the off season we could get him for a bargain price if the Spurs think he has something to offer, something like Diaws $9m/2yr

[HarlemHeat37]

Comparing Jefferson to Granger is just ludicrous. I'm not so sure the Spurs get Granger, but if they do, they should be happy to acquire such a capable SF.

:lol

Jefferson at the time >>> 2014 Granger

Jefferson today > 2014 Granger

[Spursfanfromafar]

:lol

Jefferson at the time >>> 2014 Granger

Jefferson today > 2014 Granger

I disagree completely.

2014 Granger >> 2014 Richard Jefferson. Clearly.

[Hoops Czar]

The Clippers are in on every damn free agent that hits the market.

[Spur|n|Austin]

The Clippers are in on every damn free agent that hits the market.

They really are, they're like that fantasy team in your league who just scoops up all the FAs just so others can't. :lol

[cd021]

I disagree completely.

2014 Granger >> 2014 Richard Jefferson. Clearly.

Thats not true. RJ is having a very nice season

RJ
10 PPG
44% FG
41% 3pt

Granger
8.8 ppg
35% FG

[Spursfanfromafar]

Thats not true. RJ is having a very nice season

RJ
13 PPG
44% FG
41% 3pt

Granger
8.8 ppg
35% FG

Too simple an usage of random stats.

If you look at RJ's defensive performance, it has been poor for a SF. Even a hobbled Granger has been better than him.

RJ's offense consists of scavenging onto plays that have little to do with his presence on court. Granger atleast had to anchor a Pacers bench and had to play in the flow.

[BatManu20]

438470872655855616

[Sean Cagney]

Thats not true. RJ is having a very nice season

RJ
13 PPG
44% FG
41% 3pt

Granger
8.8 ppg
35% FG
I STILL NEVER want RJ back in SA! He is having a decent year though true indeed, he can flourish on that bad team it seems. He is a better fit there, let him stay THERE.

[MI21]

Thats not true. RJ is having a very nice season

RJ
13 PPG
44% FG
41% 3pt

Granger
8.8 ppg
35% FG

He Who Shall Not Be Named is averaging 10ppg, not 13ppg.

[cd021]

He Who Shall Not Be Named is averaging 10ppg, not 13ppg.

You're right, I was looking at per 36 minutes its 10.1 ppg

[Holden_Caulfield]

lets just resign mcgrady :lol

[Robz4000]

lets just resign mcgrady :lol

Same

[KL2]

438470872655855616


Who's LA's starting SF, Barnes? Granger could easily start for that team, get mins, big market, and a winning team....

[exstatic]

Who's LA's starting SF, Barnes? Granger could easily start for that team, get mins, big market, and a winning team....

Clippers are bitch made, and I think everyone other than the lamestream NBA media understands that. Their absolute ceiling is the second round.

[Spursfanfromafar]

Clippers are bitch made, and I think everyone other than the lamestream NBA media understands that. Their absolute ceiling is the second round.

Yup. The Rockets are a bigger threat than the Clips.

Howard finally seems to be getting back to his pre-2011 days and some more while Harden is an absolute offensive machine. Plus, they have got some real good wings both as starters and backups and an underrated PG in Beverley who every coach will love for his aggression and defense. Dangerous team that is inconsistent on defense but could on their day beat anyone.

[urunobili]

Clippers are bitch made, and I think everyone other than the lamestream NBA media understands that. Their absolute ceiling is the second round.

I hope this quote doesn't come bite you in the ass :depressed

[Russo21]

Always liked Granger but he has been pretty shithouse in his comeback this year. I'd love to see him sign with the Spurs not just for this year, I wouldn't expect much apart from playing some minutes behind Kawhi if healthy enough to stay on the court. But for next year and beyond is where he can be most useful, re-sign him and we'd have a continuous experienced lengthy SF who can score and do a bit of everything, he'd be just about the best backup SF in the NBA. If he could come here, stay here, integrate himself as a solid backup SF I think he could have maybe 4 or 5 good seasons for us from now until retirement. I wouldn't like him as a half year rental. I'd like him to retire a Spur if he can be healthy enough to get himself to the finish line.

[Spursfanfromafar]

438667973449220096

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

Granger would be a perfect fit for the Spurs. The Warriors, Pacers, Rockets and Clips play alot of small ball. A lineup of Duncan/Diaw or Splitter C, Kawhi PF, Granger SF, Manu/Belinelli SG and Parker/Mills PG would be ideal.

With all the Spurs injuries of late and Pop playing his starters few minutes towards the end of the season anyways, I don't see a problem at all with the Granger getting minutes with the Spurs, which seems to be a major factor in determining where he signs, if bought out.

[Russo21]

:danceclubTime to sign on the dotted line Danny. Your buyout should be over by today and hopefully you are a Spur soon after. We need you and want you for this year and beyond. Go Danny boy!

[Prime Time]

When will the Clippers learn? You can't get better by signing every single sub-par Free-Agent in the market. Celtics tried to do the same thing from 2010-2012 when they signed Shaq, Jermaine O'Neal, Delonte West, Troy Murphy, Pietrus, Dooling, Wilcox, etc. Not giving a damn about chemistry.

Lol @ Clippers' Management.

[look_at_g_shred]

It would be funny to hear Bill land reiterate which Danny it is that scores.

[dunkman]

Granger is a Spur, book it . . .

[Dex]

Too lazy to look through the 13 pages...can any of these other teams (OKC, LAC, MIA) offer Granger more than the minimum at this point?

[cd98]

438470872655855616

Actually, I think this will not be a problem. The Spurs go deep into their roster all season. If Granger is giving the Spurs quality minutes, he'll be on the shorter rotation come playoff time. We have a deep roster, but we also rest starters and limit their minutes, and when you consider the dearth of talent behind Kawhi (only really have two guards playing the three), he could get 20 minutes a night at a minimum. And if he plays at a high level, he'll get much more than that.

[Mel_13]

Too lazy to look through the 13 pages...can any of these other teams (OKC, LAC, MIA) offer Granger more than the minimum at this point?

Miami and the Clipps can offer the minimum. OKC didn't use their MLE, so they can offer quite a bit more. They won't, however, go over the tax line and Granger would appear to be a poor fit there anyway. Same with Houston.

Assuming that Butler goe to Miami, the Clipps and the Bulls would appear to be the greatest competition

[Spur|n|Austin]

Actually, I think this will not be a problem. The Spurs go deep into their roster all season. If Granger is giving the Spurs quality minutes, he'll be on the shorter rotation come playoff time. We have a deep roster, but we also rest starters and limit their minutes, and when you consider the dearth of talent behind Kawhi (only really have two guards playing the three), he could get 20 minutes a night at a minimum. And if he plays at a high level, he'll get much more than that.

It's a good sign about his health if he feels healthy enough to want lots of minutes.

[Dex]

Miami and the Clipps can offer the minimum. OKC didn't use their MLE, so they can offer quite a bit more. They won't, however, go over the tax line and Granger would appear to be a poor fit there anyway. Same with Houston.

Assuming that Butler goe to Miami, the Clipps and the Bulls would appear to be the greatest competition

Thanks. :tu

Another thing that could end up factoring in here....does Granger like, or dis-like, working with Boylen?

[LongtimeSpursFan]

Miami and the Clipps can offer the minimum. OKC didn't use their MLE, so they can offer quite a bit more. They won't, however, go over the tax line and Granger would appear to be a poor fit there anyway. Same with Houston.

Assuming that Butler goe to Miami, the Clipps and the Bulls would appear to be the greatest competition

I don't see why he would be interested in playing with Bulls. A team that is going absolutely nowhere in playoffs. He has an opportunity to play for a team that can get him a championship and he has nothing to lose. He already got his big payday for year so why not loan your services out for a couple of months?

[313]

"@SamAmicoFSO: #Sixers, Danny Granger completing buyout, but interest not as high as reported. One GM went as far as to say zero interest. "He's done.""

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

"@SamAmicoFSO: #Sixers, Danny Granger completing buyout, but interest not as high as reported. One GM went as far as to say zero interest. "He's done.""

Like I said in the last thread, I think that's good news. Doesn't seem like something RC would say.

[TheWriter]

San Amico is TRASH.

[Mel_13]

I don't see why he would be interested in playing with Bulls. A team that is going absolutely nowhere in playoffs. He has an opportunity to play for a team that can get him a championship and he has nothing to lose. He already got his big payday for year so why not loan your services out for a couple of months?

Reasons to choose Bulls:

1. Playing time this season to audition for one more lucrative contract from some team this summer.
2. Proximity of Chicago to Indiana

The bottom line is that all of us are guessing as to Granger's priorities and which teams may be interested in his services.

[Spur|n|Austin]

San Amico is TRASH.

[Old School 44]

Here's a link to a Bleacher Report article on Granger (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1973650-nba-rumors-analyzing-danny-granger-buyout-situation-and-factors-holding-it-back#articles/1973650-nba-rumors-analyzing-danny-granger-buyout-situation-and-factors-holding-it-back). The writer seems to think the Spurs have the best shot at him. Not saying he'd be a savior by any means, but he does seem like someone who would be a good fit for the team. Maybe George Hill and Hibbert gave him some positive feedback on joining the Spurs.

[Budkin]

LOL Sam Amico is an idiot.

[Spur|n|Austin]

Here's a link to a Bleacher Report article on Granger (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1973650-nba-rumors-analyzing-danny-granger-buyout-situation-and-factors-holding-it-back#articles/1973650-nba-rumors-analyzing-danny-granger-buyout-situation-and-factors-holding-it-back). The writer seems to think the Spurs have the best shot at him. Not saying he'd be a savior by any means, but he does seem like someone who would be a good fit for the team. Maybe George Hill and Hibbert gave him some positive feedback on joining the Spurs.

Good read, thanks.

[teddygreen]

By Broderick Turner February 26, 2014, 8:56 a.m.


The Clippers (http://www.latimes.com/topic/sports/basketball/los-angeles-clippers-ORSPT000103.topic) are interested in pursuing Danny Granger (http://www.latimes.com/topic/sports/basketball/danny-granger-PESPT0000010761.topic) if he is able to secure a buyout from the Philadelphia 7ers, according to NBA (http://www.latimes.com/topic/sports/basketball/national-basketball-association-15008001.topic) executives who were not authorized to speak publicly on the matter.

Multiple reports have said Granger and his representatives are in discussions with the 76ers (http://www.latimes.com/topic/sports/basketball/philadelphia-76ers-ORSPT000210.topic) about a buyout.
Granger would have to get the buyout by Thursday in order to clear waivers because the deadline for waived players to be on a team’s playoff roster is 9 p.m. Pacific time Saturday.
The Clippers would have competition in landing Granger. The San Antonio Spurs (http://www.latimes.com/topic/sports/basketball/san-antonio-spurs-ORSPT000116.topic), Houston Rockets (http://www.latimes.com/topic/sports/basketball/houston-rockets-ORSPT000101.topic) and Miami Heat (http://www.latimes.com/topic/sports/basketball/miami-heat-ORSPT000190.topic) also want to sign Granger, according an NBA executive.

The Clippers view Granger as a possible starter at small forward. Granger was acquired by the 76ers on Thursday in a trade with the Indiana Pacers (http://www.latimes.com/topic/sports/basketball/indiana-pacers-ORSPT000102.topic).



http://www.latimes.com/sports/sportsnow/la-sp-sn-clippers-granger-20140226,0,4291036.story#ixzz2uSBj2sJO

[BatManu20]

The Clippers are interested in anyone and everyone who becomes available tbh. Not surprised. Just due diligence imo.

[Mel_13]

By Broderick Turner February 26, 2014, 8:56 a.m.


The Clippers (http://www.latimes.com/topic/sports/basketball/los-angeles-clippers-ORSPT000103.topic) are interested in pursuing Danny Granger (http://www.latimes.com/topic/sports/basketball/danny-granger-PESPT0000010761.topic) if he is able to secure a buyout from the Philadelphia 7ers, according to NBA (http://www.latimes.com/topic/sports/basketball/national-basketball-association-15008001.topic) executives who were not authorized to speak publicly on the matter.

Multiple reports have said Granger and his representatives are in discussions with the 76ers (http://www.latimes.com/topic/sports/basketball/philadelphia-76ers-ORSPT000210.topic) about a buyout.
Granger would have to get the buyout by Thursday in order to clear waivers because the deadline for waived players to be on a team’s playoff roster is 9 p.m. Pacific time Saturday.
The Clippers would have competition in landing Granger. The San Antonio Spurs (http://www.latimes.com/topic/sports/basketball/san-antonio-spurs-ORSPT000116.topic), Houston Rockets (http://www.latimes.com/topic/sports/basketball/houston-rockets-ORSPT000101.topic) and Miami Heat (http://www.latimes.com/topic/sports/basketball/miami-heat-ORSPT000190.topic) also want to sign Granger, according an NBA executive.

The Clippers view Granger as a possible starter at small forward. Granger was acquired by the 76ers on Thursday in a trade with the Indiana Pacers (http://www.latimes.com/topic/sports/basketball/indiana-pacers-ORSPT000102.topic).



http://www.latimes.com/sports/sportsnow/la-sp-sn-clippers-granger-20140226,0,4291036.story#ixzz2uSBj2sJO

:rolleyes

The LA Times apparently needs a source to provide them with correct deadlines.

[Spur|n|Austin]

By Broderick Turner February 26, 2014, 8:56 a.m.


The Clippers (http://www.latimes.com/topic/sports/basketball/los-angeles-clippers-ORSPT000103.topic) are interested in pursuing Danny Granger (http://www.latimes.com/topic/sports/basketball/danny-granger-PESPT0000010761.topic) if he is able to secure a buyout from the Philadelphia 7ers, according to NBA (http://www.latimes.com/topic/sports/basketball/national-basketball-association-15008001.topic) executives who were not authorized to speak publicly on the matter.

Multiple reports have said Granger and his representatives are in discussions with the 76ers (http://www.latimes.com/topic/sports/basketball/philadelphia-76ers-ORSPT000210.topic) about a buyout.
Granger would have to get the buyout by Thursday in order to clear waivers because the deadline for waived players to be on a team’s playoff roster is 9 p.m. Pacific time Saturday.
The Clippers would have competition in landing Granger. The San Antonio Spurs (http://www.latimes.com/topic/sports/basketball/san-antonio-spurs-ORSPT000116.topic), Houston Rockets (http://www.latimes.com/topic/sports/basketball/houston-rockets-ORSPT000101.topic) and Miami Heat (http://www.latimes.com/topic/sports/basketball/miami-heat-ORSPT000190.topic) also want to sign Granger, according an NBA executive.

The Clippers view Granger as a possible starter at small forward. Granger was acquired by the 76ers on Thursday in a trade with the Indiana Pacers (http://www.latimes.com/topic/sports/basketball/indiana-pacers-ORSPT000102.topic).



http://www.latimes.com/sports/sportsnow/la-sp-sn-clippers-granger-20140226,0,4291036.story#ixzz2uSBj2sJO

lol wut?

[dbestpro]

Picking up a player during the buy out period makes sense for a playoff caliber team. Picking up more than one, and expecting them to make major contributions leans towards a first round exit, just from chemistry issues alone.

[TeKu]

My apologies if this has been covered earlier (but thread is 14 pages now)...

I don't see the financial incentive for the 76ers to do a buyout here. Didn't they trade for him partly because his extra salary would get them to the team salary floor (Yes i know they got picks as well)? If they do a buyout for a lower figure they'll just have to pay the majority of those 'saved' $$$'s to the other players on their squad anyway due to being below the salary floor again. Someone tell me what I'm missing?

[024]

Hmm the rumors of the Clippers possibly offering Granger a starting spot is discouraging. Granger is obviously looking for more playing time.

Granger's all star days are definitely over. He needs to reinvent himself as a solid role player so he can get a decent contract after his current one expires. Playing on the Spurs might help him do that. They can rehabilitate his 3 point shot (38% career but sub par this season). A nice structure and good coaching can turn him into a 3 point shooting wing defender. But sadly, I think Granger will continue being in denial and chase playing time.

[024]

My apologies if this has been covered earlier (but thread is 14 pages now)...

I don't see the financial incentive for the 76ers to do a buyout here. Didn't they trade for him partly because his extra salary would get them to the team salary floor (Yes i know they got picks as well)? If they do a buyout for a lower figure they'll just have to pay the majority of those 'saved' $$$'s to the other players on their squad anyway due to being below the salary floor again. Someone tell me what I'm missing?
The Bleacher Report article above covers this:

"The Sixers want to get out of as much of Granger's contract as possible. Hinkie already pulled off a nifty circumvention of the NBA's salary floor rules, pushing Philly over the threshold at the last possible minute.

While the Pacers have already paid more than half of Granger's $14.02 million salary for 2013-14, his entire hold gets placed on Philly's cap. That means instead of redistributing the unspent money to players currently on the roster—as NBA rules state teams under the floor must do—the owners get to pocket the unspent coin.

Every penny the Sixers save in Granger buyout talks is another in ownership's pocket, as his cap hold remains on the sheet even after a buyout. Joshua Harris, the Sixers' principal owner, isn't known around league circles as a cheap guy, but it has to be easier for him to swallow this terrible roster while making a handsome profit rather than staring at the bottom line."

[TeKu]

Thanks 024

[hater]

lets just resign mcgrady :lol

AMEN brotha

/thread

[ace3g]

lets just resign mcgrady :lol

sure just "pitch" the idea to Pop

[Chinook]

The Bleacher Report article above covers this:

"The Sixers want to get out of as much of Granger's contract as possible. Hinkie already pulled off a nifty circumvention of the NBA's salary floor rules, pushing Philly over the threshold at the last possible minute.

While the Pacers have already paid more than half of Granger's $14.02 million salary for 2013-14, his entire hold gets placed on Philly's cap. That means instead of redistributing the unspent money to players currently on the roster—as NBA rules state teams under the floor must do—the owners get to pocket the unspent coin.

Every penny the Sixers save in Granger buyout talks is another in ownership's pocket, as his cap hold remains on the sheet even after a buyout. Joshua Harris, the Sixers' principal owner, isn't known around league circles as a cheap guy, but it has to be easier for him to swallow this terrible roster while making a handsome profit rather than staring at the bottom line."

Philly is still under the floor. They have to pay whatever they save on Granger to the others. Also, they really didn't save a whole lot, as they also traded out salary for Granger. Sure, they got some back, but only a couple Million.

[look_at_g_shred]

The buyout has been agreed, but how long till it's complete? I think this will drag out till Saturday.

[jon123spurs]

Well shit
Adrian Wojnarowski (@WojYahooNBA) tweeted at 4:12 PM on Wed, Feb 26, 2014:
Yahoo Sources: The Los Angeles Clippers have emerged as the frontrunners to sign Danny Granger. http://t.co/vWO717XrsC
(https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/438798655089569792)

[LakerHater]

http://www.nba.com/2014/news/02/26/sixers-granger-buyout/index.html

438799346822172672

[Ibleedslvrnblk]

http://www.nba.com/2014/news/02/26/sixers-granger-buyout/index.html

438799346822172672

Honestly you have to take a look at the following:

Clippers have no history of winning and won`t be in the finals which will produce a blow up like always
Clippers have some big ass egos
Spurs can tell Granger that he can almost become the face of the program for 4-5 years maybe longer, once TD/TP/MG start to fade. Heck he can take Duncans role very soon it seems
Spurs have a way better chance of winning this year opposed to the Clippers
Spurs are an ORGANIZATION and FAMILY


I love the fact the Clippers can GIVE him a starting spot. What does that tell the other Clippers? You guys suck! If he does go there ya it will sting but honestly it will sting more cause I hate teams that never build, always trading, bring in the big names, make a blockbuster deal and throw all eggs into the basket hoping it turns out once.

[BatManu20]

The Los Angeles Clippers (http://espn.go.com/nba/team/_/name/lac/los-angeles-clippers) and San Antonio Spurs (http://espn.go.com/nba/team/_/name/sa/san-antonio-spurs) are locked in a battle for the services of former All-Star swingman Danny Granger (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/2760/danny-granger) after the Philadelphia 76ers (http://espn.go.com/nba/team/_/name/phi/philadelphia-76ers) and Granger completed a contract buyout Wednesday, according to sources close to the process.

Granger is scheduled to clear waivers Friday at 5 p.m. after the Sixers announced that they had released the 30-year-old, mere days after acquiring him in a last-minute deal just before the NBA's annual trade deadline last week for Evan Turner (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/4239/evan-turner) and Lavoy Allen (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/6424/lavoy-allen).

on Hoskins/NBAE via Getty ImagesAfter being traded by the Pacers, Danny Granger has been bought out by the 76ers.


ESPN.com reported Tuesday night that the Spurs and Granger share a mutual interest, but sources said Wednesday that the Clippers -- having lost starting shooting guard J.J. Redick (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/3024/jj-redick) for long stretches this season due to a variety of injuries -- have the advantage of more playing time to offer.

Sources say teams interested in Granger have been consistently told in recent days that the free agent-to-be -- if he were to surrender his Larry Bird rights by securing his release from the Sixers -- would be looking for a new team that could not only offer a shot at a championship but also offer guaranteed playing time.

ESPN.com reported Tuesday that the Clippers and Spurs were widely regarded as the two strongest contenders to land Granger, with the Miami Heat (http://espn.go.com/nba/team/_/name/mia/miami-heat) expected to focus its efforts on clinching a deal with former Heat draftee Caron Butler (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/1705/caron-butler), whose buyout from the Milwaukee Bucks (http://espn.go.com/nba/team/_/name/mil/milwaukee-bucks), sources said, was also progressing toward completion Wednesday.

Any player who has appeared in a regular-season game this season must be waived by Saturday at midnight, according to league rules, to remain eligible to appear in this season's playoffs with another team.

Philadelphia's prime interest in dealing for Granger and his $14 million expiring contract was the second-round pick it acquired from the Pacers. The Sixers acquired five second-rounders last week through its various deals before the deadline.

Said Sixers general manager Sam Hinkie in a statement: "His accomplishments and accolades to this point of his NBA career more than speak for themselves, so I would like to express that I have a great deal of respect for Danny Granger as a person. The manner with which he carried himself throughout this process was professional, courteous and respectful, and speaks volumes about his character."

"Following the completion of the trade on Thursday night, Danny traveled to Philadelphia and we had an opportunity to meet with him here. These were in addition to the open lines of communication with his agent Aaron Mintz and CAA while we worked through the next steps."

"Given Danny's future goals and his desire to pursue them, we worked to fulfill his requests and have come to a resolution that we feel is mutually beneficial to both Danny and our organization.We wish Danny the best in the next phase of his career."

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/10522831/philadelphia-76ers-buy-danny-granger

[BatManu20]

Sounds to me like the Clippers have the advantage imo. They'll probably promise him more PT (whether they actually give it to him or not) and Pop will be honest with him. Plus, with Redick likely out for much of the next couple months at least, and Dudley playing poorly, he probably would get more opportunity to play in LA. Add the fact that he already lives there in the offseason and it just makes more sense imo.

[Kidd K]

^ Exactly. The Spurs are going to be honest and tell him he's going to have a specific role which may or may not increase depending on injury and his performance. Clippers will promise him a major role whether or not they deliver on it (likely not).

Clippers will also be able to give more playing time, so I would say it's probably something like 70/30 in Clippers favor for getting him. Maybe even 80/20.

[TheWriter]

Reasons to choose Bulls:

1. Playing time this season to audition for one more lucrative contract from some team this summer.
2. Proximity of Chicago to Indiana

The bottom line is that all of us are guessing as to Granger's priorities and which teams may be interested in his services.

First off, he's not going to the Bulls. Second, what would Chicago's proximity to Indiana play a role? He lives in New Mexico in the off-season. Doesn't have kids as far as I know. More than likely leases a place in Indy.

[superbigtime]

Who is Granger gonna choose... a south Texas city full of fat married Hispanics and a team full of good guy global players with a white hard-ass coach, or the glitzy west coast city with lots of superficial white whores to bang and the team with otha brothas like CP3, Deandre, and Griff led by a black coach who coached Garnett, Pierce and Rondo? Fuckn DUH. Why is anyone deliberating over the obvious.

[Chewbacca]

The Los Angeles Clippers (http://espn.go.com/nba/team/_/name/lac/los-angeles-clippers) and San Antonio Spurs (http://espn.go.com/nba/team/_/name/sa/san-antonio-spurs) are locked in a battle for the services of former All-Star swingman Danny Granger (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/2760/danny-granger) after the Philadelphia 76ers (http://espn.go.com/nba/team/_/name/phi/philadelphia-76ers) and Granger completed a contract buyout Wednesday, according to sources close to the process.

Granger is scheduled to clear waivers Friday at 5 p.m. after the Sixers announced that they had released the 30-year-old, mere days after acquiring him in a last-minute deal just before the NBA's annual trade deadline last week for Evan Turner (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/4239/evan-turner) and Lavoy Allen (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/6424/lavoy-allen).

on Hoskins/NBAE via Getty ImagesAfter being traded by the Pacers, Danny Granger has been bought out by the 76ers.


ESPN.com reported Tuesday night that the Spurs and Granger share a mutual interest, but sources said Wednesday that the Clippers -- having lost starting shooting guard J.J. Redick (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/3024/jj-redick) for long stretches this season due to a variety of injuries -- have the advantage of more playing time to offer.

Sources say teams interested in Granger have been consistently told in recent days that the free agent-to-be -- if he were to surrender his Larry Bird rights by securing his release from the Sixers -- would be looking for a new team that could not only offer a shot at a championship but also offer guaranteed playing time.

ESPN.com reported Tuesday that the Clippers and Spurs were widely regarded as the two strongest contenders to land Granger, with the Miami Heat (http://espn.go.com/nba/team/_/name/mia/miami-heat) expected to focus its efforts on clinching a deal with former Heat draftee Caron Butler (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/1705/caron-butler), whose buyout from the Milwaukee Bucks (http://espn.go.com/nba/team/_/name/mil/milwaukee-bucks), sources said, was also progressing toward completion Wednesday.

Any player who has appeared in a regular-season game this season must be waived by Saturday at midnight, according to league rules, to remain eligible to appear in this season's playoffs with another team.

Philadelphia's prime interest in dealing for Granger and his $14 million expiring contract was the second-round pick it acquired from the Pacers. The Sixers acquired five second-rounders last week through its various deals before the deadline.

Said Sixers general manager Sam Hinkie in a statement: "His accomplishments and accolades to this point of his NBA career more than speak for themselves, so I would like to express that I have a great deal of respect for Danny Granger as a person. The manner with which he carried himself throughout this process was professional, courteous and respectful, and speaks volumes about his character."

"Following the completion of the trade on Thursday night, Danny traveled to Philadelphia and we had an opportunity to meet with him here. These were in addition to the open lines of communication with his agent Aaron Mintz and CAA while we worked through the next steps."

"Given Danny's future goals and his desire to pursue them, we worked to fulfill his requests and have come to a resolution that we feel is mutually beneficial to both Danny and our organization.We wish Danny the best in the next phase of his career."

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/10522831/philadelphia-76ers-buy-danny-granger

:tu

[jkid12456]

granger with patty comin off the bench is deadly!

[xmas1997]

He's not going to choose the Spurs IMHO.

[Bruno]

We'll see where Granger go. I'm not that interested in endless speculation.

It's kinda sad to see Spurs not having filled what RC called a "hole" last July despite an offseason and a trade deadline. Counting on a bought out player picking Spurs just sounds random and amateurish.

[rick1991]

Are teams allowed to speak to Granger before he clears waivers?

[cd021]

If I were Granger, The fact that the Clippers front court depth is this poor this late in the season ;with Jamison Mullins both gone, Dudley apparently on the fringes of the rotation, Barnes logging only 26mpg and a rookie in Bollock rounding out their SF core. Granger hasn't played consistently in two seasons and they are pitching to him that he can come over and start? If he's lookin for playing time he can find it there but as far as a deep playoff run, I wouldn't consider it likely.

They caught a big break with Big Baby being brought out and coming to L.A. Truth be told the only teams that they could realistically beat are Dallas and possibly Phoenix. The rest are at best 50/50.

[xmas1997]

If he were coming here we would have heard he had decided that for sure by now.
But we've heard only that the Clips were interested, and then that they were ahead.
What does that tell you?

[TheWriter]

If he were coming here we would have heard he had decided that for sure by now.
But we've heard only that the Clips were interested, and then that they were ahead.
What does that tell you?

What? There have been back and forth reports the last two days. On Monday it was reported five teams were in contention. Yesterday, the Spurs were Danny's top choice. Today is a new report that says LA is the frontrunner with the Spurs being a serious candidate. Tomorrow will be another report and Friday there will be even more widespread speculation before he announces his choice.

[pgardn]

I wonder if Granger takes a look at another hole filler, Marco, and sees how it is possible to flourish on an older team with many aches and pains.

California wins most likely.

I would love to have him just to see if we could actually make him work in a small time frame.

[Chinook]

We'll see where Granger go. I'm not that interested in endless speculation.

It's kinda sad to see Spurs not having filled what RC called a "hole" last July despite an offseason and a trade deadline. Counting on a bought out player picking Spurs just sounds random and amateurish.

Yeah. I'm not too interested in a player of Granger's current caliber that feels he needs to be recruited. He's not essential to the team at all, and I imagine Pop will tell him something along those lines. I won't blame the FO for not getting Granger, but their mishandling of the off-season is inexcusable. If the Spurs win it all, it won't be due to any help Buford's provided this season.

[xmas1997]

What? There have been back and forth reports the last two days. On Monday it was reported five teams were in contention. Yesterday, the Spurs were Danny's top choice. Today is a new report that says LA is the frontrunner with the Spurs being a serious candidate. Tomorrow will be another report and Friday there will be even more widespread speculation before he announces his choice.


Right, and then the Clips entered the picture instead of it all being geared strictly toward the Spurs as it should have been had no other team had a shot, but all it took to change his mind was the Clips wanted him.
He lives there. It is L.A. after all.
Open your eyes.

[TheWriter]

Right, and then the Clips entered the picture instead of it all being geared strictly toward the Spurs as it should have been had no other team had a shot, but all it took to change his mind was the Clips wanted him.
He lives there. It is L.A. after all.
Open your eyes.

The Clippers have been in the race since the beginning. They didn't just pop in today out of the blue. This is media speculation and nothing more. The only speculation that came from sources inside his camp had him picking the Spurs. Woj's report cites "league sources", meaning GMs or front office people.

Also, he doesn't live in LA. He lives in Albuquerque.

[Old School 44]

He's not going to choose the Spurs IMHO.
You're probably right. But Finley chose the Spurs, so why not Granger? There's still hope!

[xmas1997]

The Clippers have been in the race since the beginning. They didn't just pop in today out of the blue. This is media speculation and nothing more. The only speculation that came from sources inside his camp had him picking the Spurs. Woj's report cites "league sources", meaning GMs or front office people.

Also, he doesn't live in LA. He lives in Albuquerque.


Then where did all these reports that he lives in L. A. come from?
Don't get me wrong, I would be happy if he came here.
I just don't see it happening.
I don't think he has enough sense to choose the Spurs over the Clips.
Finley was a smart dude. Is Granger?
And why all of a sudden is it being reported that the Clips are ahead?
This isn't rocket science.

[TheWriter]

Then where did all these reports that he lives in L. A. come from?
Don't get me wrong, I would be happy if he came here.
I just don't see it happening.
I don't think he has enough sense to choose the Spurs over the Clips.
Finley was a smart dude. Is Granger?
And why all of a sudden is it being reported that the Clips are ahead?
This isn't rocket science.

He bought a home in LA in 2012 as an investment. He sold it in 2013.

He built a custom home in Albuquerque and lives there in the offseason.

The reason the Clippers are now being reported as front runners is because Woj tweeted it and cited "league sources" and they came to that conclusion because they think that's the best place for him because its a "contender" and a place where he'll get a lot of minutes and maybe even be a starter. This speculation isn't coming from Granger so its moot. It was reported that the Spurs were a front runner to land Caron Bulter a few seasons ago and then he signed with LA. These reports mean nothing.

[Brutalis]

Now that DG is bought out the Spurs need to jump all over him. I don't think we have a legit title shot as it stands without.

[therealtruth]

sure just "pitch" the idea to Pop

Pop drove Mcgrady by sticking with Manu when he was struggling so much.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Pop drove Mcgrady by sticking with Manu when he was struggling so much.

:lol Do you think any team would bench a player that has proven himself time and time again? In the NBA Finals no less? Don't kid yourself. We needed Manu to perform to win the title. He didn't. But he is this year.

[xmas1997]

He bought a home in LA in 2012 as an investment. He sold it in 2013.

He built a custom home in Albuquerque and lives there in the offseason.

The reason the Clippers are now being reported as front runners is because Woj tweeted it and cited "league sources" and they came to that conclusion because they think that's the best place for him because its a "contender" and a place where he'll get a lot of minutes and maybe even be a starter. This speculation isn't coming from Granger so its moot. It was reported that the Spurs were a front runner to land Caron Bulter a few seasons ago and then he signed with LA. These reports mean nothing.


I hope you're right.
The only thing that gives me more hope is that he lives in New Mexico if what you say is true.
That would bode well for feeling he has some sense about him.

[therealtruth]

Right, and then the Clips entered the picture instead of it all being geared strictly toward the Spurs as it should have been had no other team had a shot, but all it took to change his mind was the Clips wanted him.
He lives there. It is L.A. after all.
Open your eyes.

That's typically how it ends. The same thing in free agency. The player will speak of how he really respects the Spurs but they don't actually want to play for them.

[Hoops Czar]

We'll see where Granger go. I'm not that interested in endless speculation.

It's kinda sad to see Spurs not having filled what RC called a "hole" last July despite an offseason and a trade deadline. Counting on a bought out player picking Spurs just sounds random and amateurish.

You nailed it!!!!

[exstatic]

If he were coming here we would have heard he had decided that for sure by now.
But we've heard only that the Clips were interested, and then that they were ahead.
What does that tell you?

HE HASN'T EVEN CLEARED WAIVERS YET.

[xmas1997]

HE HASN'T EVEN CLEARED WAIVERS YET.


And .....

[heyheymymy]

yeah magette, butler, and others have used the ole "i really respect the spurs org", but nope, im going where the money and beaches/celebs etc are.

[exstatic]

And .....

And nobody can talk to nobody until he does. He's Philly property until he clears. Talking is tampering.

[xmas1997]

And nobody can talk to nobody until he does. He's Philly property until he clears. Talking is tampering.


This is true.
But in the mean time it would be foolish to get any hopes up that he is coming here. You're just setting yourself up for disappointment IMHO.

[jon123spurs]

Beat writer from LA Times.
Brad Turner (@BA_Turner) tweeted at 7:55 PM on Wed, Feb 26, 2014:
Signs point to Clippers getting free agent Danny Granger signed to a contract
(https://twitter.com/BA_Turner/status/438854881672044544)

[UZER]

We'll see where Granger go. I'm not that interested in endless speculation.

It's kinda sad to see Spurs not having filled what RC called a "hole" last July despite an offseason and a trade deadline. Counting on a bought out player picking Spurs just sounds random and amateurish.

*blue font*

How dare you second guess the front office? Don't you know how hard it is to run a franchise?

[exstatic]

This is true.
But in the mean time it would be foolish to get any hopes up that he is coming here. You're just setting yourself up for disappointment IMHO.

Why? It's the CLIPPERS. They have no history, no championships.

Truthfully, I don't think Granger is a make or break proposition. He's in the "nice to have" category.

[xmas1997]

Doc is a hell of a motivator and could get that team to over excel.
Granger may be all they need, and then, maybe not.

[exstatic]

Doc is a hell of a motivator and could get that team to over excel.
Granger may be all they need, and then, maybe not.

Chrissy Paul cringes at the sight of black and silver. Doc, himself is only 7-7 against the Spurs.

[Hoops Czar]

!

[DesignatedT]

Pop and RC will be blunt and totally upfront with Granger. Won't promise him shit. Some players like that and can handle it, other want to be coddled and told what they want to hear.

[DMC]

Danny Granger does not want to live in SA. He'll go to the Clippers and that will be that.

[Hoops Czar]

Danny Granger does not want to live in SA. He'll go to the Clippers and that will be that.

Did Belinelli buy a house in SA?

[DMC]

Did Belinelli buy a house in SA?

I have no idea. What does that have to do with Danny Granger?

[Ditty]

Danny Granger does not want to live in SA. He'll go to the Clippers and that will be that.

He will probably be a one year rental, and be living in one of those nice hotels downtown while he is down here like tmac did.

[TheWriter]

Danny Granger does not want to live in SA. He'll go to the Clippers and that will be that.


Good to know Danny Granger's sister. Can you tell us what he had for breakfast while we have you here?

The guy lives in Albuquerque during the off season and has played a he'd his entire career in Indianapolis. So, why is he above living in SA? lmao

[DMC]

Good to know Danny Granger's sister. Can you tell us what he had for breakfast while we have you here?

The guy lives in Albuquerque during the off season and has played a he'd his entire career in Indianapolis. So, why is he above living in SA? lmao

Why are all non geriatric decent American players above it? Post a list of all the good players over the years who have come to SA from another team before their glue factory days.

[DMC]

He will probably be a one year rental, and be living in one of those nice hotels downtown while he is down here like tmac did.

TMac was playing in fucking China. lol TMac

[slick'81]

Looks less and less likely granger is coming to sa

[TheWriter]

Why are all non geriatric decent American players above it? Post a list of all the good players over the years who have come to SA from another team before their glue factory days.

So that's the only answer you can reply with. lol

Good to know you're as doltish as I presumed.

[TheWriter]

Looks less and less likely granger is coming to sa

Take a breath sweet heart. It's all in your head.

[look_at_g_shred]

Wonder what tomorrow's rumor will be? Heat now frontrunners to sign Granger. Wouldn't be surprised.

[cd021]

Wonder what tomorrow's rumor will be? Heat now frontrunners to sign Granger. Wouldn't be surprised.

They are apparently focusing on Butler. Plus Allen, Beasley, Battier, Lebron and Wade all play spend time at the 3.

[PingPong]

He said he wants to be in a contender team right? I think it excludes Clippers...

[DMC]

So that's the only answer you can reply with. lol

Good to know you're as doltish as I presumed.

It's a valid answer. I don't need another. I'm sure you're right that Danny Granger can't wait to move to San Antonio.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources--clippers-are-frontrunners-to-land-danny-granger-220910360-nba.html

[DMC]

He said he wants to be in a contender team right? I think it excludes Clippers...

I don't think Danny wants to ride the bench on a team that pulls it's best defender and rebounder when it needs two crucial stops in a deciding game... wait he just came from one.

[DMC]

Take a breath sweet heart. It's all in your head.

You must be a writer.

[Chinook]

They just said on ESPN that LAC may not be a good fit for Granger because he wouldn't get enough minutes. They said it may not be worth it for "only" 24mpg or so. If Granger expects anywhere near that, he's gonna have a hard time finding a team that has any chance of making the playoffs.

[Hoops Czar]

I have no idea. What does that have to do with Danny Granger?


I thought it was self explanatory. You don't have to live in SA to play for the Spurs. Who says the Spurs want him beyond this year?

[Hoops Czar]

They are apparently focusing on Butler. Plus Allen, Beasley, Battier, Lebron and Wade all play spend time at the 3.

If the Spurs can do it at the guard position, I'm sure Miami can make it work at SF.

[xmas1997]

And now the Mavs are after him too?
Geez, Cuban goes after everyone!

[TheGoldStandard]

They just said on ESPN that LAC may not be a good fit for Granger because he wouldn't get enough minutes. They said it may not be worth it for "only" 24mpg or so. If Granger expects anywhere near that, he's gonna have a hard time finding a team that has any chance of making the playoffs.

lol 24 MPG.. I'm okay with him taking 12 minutes from Errors

[spurs1990]

So if the buzz is that Granger will be hard pressed for PT in San Antonio, why break a sweat on the guy.

By the way DMC you need to think back to August 2005. A max-level player chose the Spurs and contributed as a starter all the way to the title.

[Trainwreck2100]

lol wut?

NBA execs can't talk about players under contract with other teams

[Hoops Czar]

OKC lost tonight. They'll be in the hunt for Granger and Metta tomorrow. Spurs probably gonna get the shaft.

[xellos88330]

One thing that had me curious was about the game tonight. Manu started running the point in the second half. Could this rotation allow for Granger to get some additional minutes? It just struck me as unusual that Manu would start running the point w/o Joseph or Mills on the court.

[Spur|n|Austin]

NBA execs can't talk about players under contract with other teams

Yeah I know, I just thought it was ironic the quote came from an NBA exec who was not allowed to discuss it. Was sort of redundant.


OKC lost tonight. They'll be in the hunt for Granger and Metta tomorrow. Spurs probably gonna get the shaft.

I'm not feeling too confident about their chances either, big change of feelings from yesterday.

[TheWriter]

It's a valid answer. I don't need another. I'm sure you're right that Danny Granger can't wait to move to San Antonio.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources--clippers-are-frontrunners-to-land-danny-granger-220910360-nba.html

Jesus christ, you're such an idiot.

33k posts of shit later, you're dumber for it.

[Sean Cagney]

And now the Mavs are after him too?
Geez, Cuban goes after everyone!

NOW that team is not a contender.....

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

NOW that team is not a contender.....

#6 in the West bro

[Ditty]

Something I read off the Clutchfans own Danny Granger thread:

" Right now:

1. Clips
2. Rockets/Spurs

Talked briefly with my homie today...It all comes down to the role. The Role. Danny isn't going to be happy with 10-15 a game. He wants to contribute more than riding around for a ring.

I don't see how the Clips can offer him any of that "role" or the minutes, but Doc is a POWERHOUSE.


But, not to fear,

I heard that Danny really LIKES the Spurs, but he doesn't like how S.Jackson was booted (they're tight) and the age issue. Also, his role on that team.

They're selling the Robert Horry role (legit) and (per HoopsHype) and my dude says Danny is not a Robert Horry.

He doesn't want to come in in the last 5 minutes for heroics.

He wants consistent minutes, a role and respect. Shoot, that's why the Heat never had a chance. Danny is a stand up dude. Real recognize real. (that last part was just me http://www.clutchfans.net/bbs/images/smilies/smile.gif )"

[Sean Cagney]

#6 in the West bro

The Mavs are #6 in the West you are correct...... They are not a contender to win it all. They are a good team though.

[Budkin]

Everyone loves Pop but they are all afraid of him because he'll yell at them and hurt their feelings. Bunch of pussies tbh.

[BatManu20]

Yea he's going to LA. Book it.

Spurs are stuck with what they've got.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Yea he's going to LA. Book it.

Spurs are stuck with what they've got.

:lmao I've seen that picture bout 5 times today and just noticed it was Kawhi :lol..

[BatManu20]

438937791322271746

[Hoops Czar]

The Spurs can't gurantee any minutes to Granger because they already made those guarantees with Ayres and Belinelli. Not enough minutes to go around.

[Redshadows]

438937791322271746
Spurs without a backup SF since SJax been cut,:depressedwould pay for that when they faced OKC, MIA, HOU in the playoffs.

[Redshadows]

The Spurs can't gurantee any minutes to Granger because they already made those guarantees with Ayres and Belinelli. Not enough minutes to go around.
RC sucked during the past half year.

[timtonymanu]

Were people really surprised? :lol

Anyway Granger wasn't going to put us over the top. I don't get why a lot of people on here thought he would.

[Sean Cagney]

438937791322271746Gee who did not see this coming??????? First it's the Spurs favorites and then some other tem swoops in to get him! Now lets go beat the Clippers ass in the playoffs again and forget about this dude. Who cares he will sign there. Now time for the real season to begin.
Were people really surprised? :lol

Anyway Granger wasn't going to put us over the top. I don't get why a lot of people on here thought he would.

This is the truth! He was garbage in Indy this year and they stole Evan Turner IMO..... He was not going to put any team over the top this year, he is washed up IMO honestly and is not worth a starting spot. He will start in LAC now, as one exec said he is done! I believe he truly is done. Now time to move on.

[HI-FI]

Yea he's going to LA. Book it.

Spurs are stuck with what they've got.
:lol
great sig. Kawhi in Wolf of Wall Street.

[Hoops Czar]

Gee who did not see this coming??????? First it's the Spurs favorites and then some other tem swoops in to get him! Now lets go beat the Clippers ass in the playoffs again and forget about this dude. Who cares he will sign there. Now time for the real season to begin.

This is the truth! He was garbage in Indy this year and they stole Evan Turner IMO..... He was not going to put any team over the top this year, he is washed up IMO honestly and is not worth a starting spot. He will start in LAC now, as one exec said he is done! I believe he truly is done. Now time to move on.

The Spurs were never the favorite. The media put the Spurs as the favorite.

[Bruno]

When you see Spurs and Clippers respective rosters and with Woj comment about an Horry role, they aren't offering the same situation for Granger. Clippers want to have him as a SF and Spurs want to play him as a small ball PF.

At the end, I guess it will depend on how Granger assesses his career. If he thinks he is still a SF, he will go to the Clippers. If he thinks that, because of his injuries, he has to transition at the 4 slot, Spurs would be a good place for him.

[Chillen]

At this point I wouldn't be surprised if Vinny Del Negro comes out of retirement and signs with the Clippers to as a player/coach like Kidd on the Knicks, lol. It's all up to Granger what he wants he won't be a player to bring the Spurs or Clips over the top. Clips would be building on having more depth to their roster, Spurs could use Granger so whatever.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

This reminds me of Butler, when he turned down the Spurs only to get swept by them the same year with the Clips.

I think it is between the Spurs and Clips at this point. If the Spurs sign him, it will be Ayres, Bonner and Green who will be seeing reduced minutes. Granger needs to realize he needs time to completely heal and to adjust his style of play. Spurs are allowing that. Clippers want him to start and he will be going up against the Likes of Leonard, Batum, Parson, Iggie, etc, and at this point, and anyone of those guys would smoke him.

[Spur|n|Austin]

Unless Pop & RC pull out the ketchup Popsicles today, Granger will be a Clipper by Saturday.

[Jwash_1986]

I honestly care less if dude comes. It's not like he's the same Granger were all use too. That's why it was easy for Indiana to part ways. I'm a lil disappointed we weren't as aggressive as we should've been in the off-season, trade deadline and free agency but fuck it. Were the Spurs dammit!! We make shit happen with no names and role players. You got some teams stacked with talent twice as good as the Spurs and can't even imagine the type of success the Spurs have. On the cool if MWP talkin bout comin then sign his ass. On the cool we need some crazy on this team especially come playoff. But me I still feel Malcom Thomas should've stayed, just my opinion.

[DMC]

Jesus christ, you're such an idiot.

33k posts of shit later, you're dumber for it.

You're too emotionally invested into something you have no control over.

[rjv]

i've never really been able to figure out how he would even be in the rotation here. maybe, based on matchups, he gets a few minutes here and there against the longer teams but that would be about it. as far as i know he's not a shut down defender and his offense has been less than prolific lately.

[apalisoc_9]

metta world peace!!!

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Nothing can be said that hasn't already been said. I don't want Granger to be our starter under any circumstances. If we play small ball, I'd prefer it'd be Ginobili starting.

But this talk for "minutes", I really have no idea why Granger believes he will get significantly more minutes in LA. Crawford, Redick are going to come back soon and take the bulk of 2/3 minutes. Then Matt Barnes is going to be the second 3 off the bench. I could see Granger beating out Dudley.. but Dudley is shooting better this year than Granger. Maybe as a back-up 4? But they just signed Davis.

At least for the Spurs he knows what he's getting. He should be fairly confident he could beat out Ayres and Bonner. I think you add that, plus taking a couple minutes away from Green or someone of the sort, he's looking at 15-20 minutes a game.. and that isn't putting into account the games where we will rest players. Plus, lots of team play small in the playoffs. Idk, it's just a no brainer to me... I guess that's why I'm a Spurs fan, though.