Granger "pissed" when learned he had been traded...could sign with Spurs/Heat?

[pgardn]

metta world peace!!!

We need a super slow lunatic who can't dribble or shoot.

What do we call this new position?

[Spur|n|Austin]

We need a super slow lunatic who can't dribble or shoot.

What do we call this new position?

How many times are you going to say this?

Oh, and we'd call it a solid defender off the bench to give KL some rest for a few minutes.

[mienhmario]

Nothing can be said that hasn't already been said. I don't want Granger to be our starter under any circumstances. If we play small ball, I'd prefer it'd be Ginobili starting.

But this talk for "minutes", I really have no idea why Granger believes he will get significantly more minutes in LA. Crawford, Redick are going to come back soon and take the bulk of 2/3 minutes. Then Matt Barnes is going to be the second 3 off the bench. I could see Granger beating out Dudley.. but Dudley is shooting better this year than Granger. Maybe as a back-up 4? But they just signed Davis.

At least for the Spurs he knows what he's getting. He should be fairly confident he could beat out Ayres and Bonner. I think you add that, plus taking a couple minutes away from Green or someone of the sort, he's looking at 15-20 minutes a game.. and that isn't putting into account the games where we will rest players. Plus, lots of team play small in the playoffs. Idk, it's just a no brainer to me... I guess that's why I'm a Spurs fan, though.

Yes. I think he will be a better fit in he Spurs uniform than the clippers. If he does go to the clippers, it's where this gets kind of personal. Spurs are in dire need of a lengthy small forward and he will fill the role very nicely. Anyone who says granger is done are absolutely absurd. Granger just needs time to heal and be productive at this point in his career.

[mienhmario]

Granger is good enough to take ginoboli and greens position. He is still good given his poor play in Indiana.

[apalisoc_9]

Granger is good enough to take ginoboli and greens position. He is still good given his poor play in Indiana.

:lmao

[Kidd K]

Granger isn't done, he just isn't all star caliber anymore. He's more than capable of performing in a reduced role. Look at his highlights for the year. . .he's still moving well and has a sweet jumpshot with the quick release still.

[Prime Time]

I look forward to Leonard shutting down Granger, tbh

[look_at_g_shred]

So is he meeting with the Spurs today?

[mienhmario]

A spurs can in denial. You might not want to believe it but there are players better than ginoboli and green.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

A spurs can in denial. You might not want to believe it but there are players better than ginoboli and green.

What makes you think Granger is better than Manu?

[Mel_13]

You might not want to believe it but there are players better than ginoboli and green.

Plenty of players better than Manu and Green. Danny Granger isn't one of them.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

Granger is good enough to take ginoboli and greens position. He is still good given his poor play in Indiana.

Maybe Green, but Green is a SG and he has the ability to guard PGs (Don't forget how well he defended Curry, Paul in the playoffs).

I would take Manu over Granger any day of the week at this moment in time. Granger play this year has been dismal compare to his prime self. Players who develop chronic injuries to the knees rarely make it back to be a dominating player. TMAC, Amare, Hill, Penny, Roy, etc etc.

[xellos88330]

I still believe he would be a solid backup for us. If he does choose the Clippers it wouldn't be the first time SA has been snubbed so it won't bother me much.

[Chomag]

So is he meeting with the Spurs today?

Perhaps if Granger likes to go have meetings at a wine bar because that's pretty much all what Pop and RC do. :lol

On a more serious note, I think he would fit very well here and fill a huge role the spurs are lacking right now.

[Ditty]

Hope he is watching First Take. They made some good points on why Granger should join the Spurs. Unless Pop and RC pulls something out of there ass, which I think they can. Granger is LA bound.

[look_at_g_shred]

Perhaps if Granger likes to go have meetings at a wine bar because that's pretty much all what Pop and RC do. :lol

On a more serious note, I think he would fit very well here and fill a huge role the spurs are lacking right now.
Yeah. I wonder when they are going to pitch the "horry role" to him.

[Chomag]

Look at it this way, anything that would mean less Ayers is a good idea.

[TheCerebral1]

Why is it that Granger wants to join a team where he'll take even less minutes...I don't understand athletes. The depleted Spurs have beaten the Clippers this season. Well w/e. Take your smug attitude because you're not producing and were an expiring contract to Los Angeles with the wantabe Chris Paul. You'll be out in the 1st round regardless. :) That's all.

[z0sa]

I'm definitely hoping Danny Granger makes SA his (most likely) temporary home for another deep playoff run. That said, I can't make any judgment on how well he would do with us because I haven't been following the rest of the League this year like I have for a relatively long time. I'm getting back into the groove of things still but I still remember Danny granger torching the league about 3-4 years back and it would surprise me if he truly dropped off the edge of the world in the meantime, injury notwithstanding.

[BatManu20]

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[HarlemHeat37]

:lol all this hype over a broken scrub, tbh..only in the Twitter/social media era..

[spurspokesman]

Look at it this way, anything that would mean less Ayers is a good idea.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

I'm a big Granger fan, and I'd love to see him in San Antonio. My belief is that he'll need minutes to be effective, tho, and I'm not sure he'll get that on the Spurs. The advantage to a spot here is that he could work out of the reserve role and not have to prove himself on a team that expects to turn him into a starter. He would fit well into the Spurs' offensive schemes, probably getting a lot of good looks from three. My big problem is that I just didn't see a guy who was able to move too well on the defensive end from the 6 or so games I've seen him play since his comeback.

That being said, he might be fooling himself if he thinks Doc Rivers is going to give him 30+ minutes of burn a night to play himself into game shape while the Clippers are trying to secure an upper seed in the West. I think there would be less pressure on him in San Antonio.

The payoff on Granger isn't this season, it's next. If he can get back in shape I think he's still a guy that can contribute 15 points a night on a playoff caliber team. Moving him to a small 4 might extend his career, and I think he has the length to do that. I'm not sure he'll get the burn at this point in the season to be much of a difference maker, but we'll see. Perhaps the Spurs can get him on the cheap this off season.

[look_at_g_shred]

Guy doesn't need to be playing big minutes coming off his injury anyway. I'm sure Pop and RC will make sure he knows that his health is their number one priority. Granger should know that Spurs org. is one of the best at maintaining their players. He should definitely take that into consideration.

[z0sa]

I'm a big Granger fan, and I'd love to see him in San Antonio. My belief is that he'll need minutes to be effective, tho, and I'm not sure he'll get that on the Spurs. The advantage to a spot here is that he could work out of the reserve role and not have to prove himself on a team that expects to turn him into a starter. He would fit well into the Spurs' offensive schemes, probably getting a lot of good looks from three. My big problem is that I just didn't see a guy who was able to move too well on the defensive end from the 6 or so games I've seen him play since his comeback.

That being said, he might be fooling himself if he thinks Doc Rivers is going to give him 30+ minutes of burn a night to play himself into game shape while the Clippers are trying to secure an upper seed in the West. I think there would be less pressure on him in San Antonio.

The payoff on Granger isn't this season, it's next. If he can get back in shape I think he's still a guy that can contribute 15 points a night on a playoff caliber team. Moving him to a small 4 might extend his career, and I think he has the length to do that. I'm not sure he'll get the burn at this point in the season to be much of a difference maker, but we'll see. Perhaps the Spurs can get him on the cheap this off season.

Good post.

[DapDaGenius]

Will he just pick a damn team already...

[monkeypunk]

Will he just pick a damn team already...

Don't think he can until he clears waivers...

[Hoops Czar]

The payoff on Granger isn't this season, it's next. If he can get back in shape I think he's still a guy that can contribute 15 points a night on a playoff caliber team. Moving him to a small 4 might extend his career, and I think he has the length to do that. I'm not sure he'll get the burn at this point in the season to be much of a difference maker, but we'll see. Perhaps the Spurs can get him on the cheap this off season.

That's a catch 22. If he plays well, he's going to get a semi lucrative offer from some team. If he plays like a scrub, he'll resign for next to nothing but won't contribute. The Spurs don't want to take on much salary after next season so he'd have to lock in for a one year deal if he has any intention of resigning with the Spurs. He's basically a rental for the remainder of the season.

[moisaenz]

hasn't mwp cleared waivers??

[letmk]

hasn't mwp cleared waivers?? One more day to go? I don't know what MWP has left in tank, but one good thing about him (at least to my knowledge) is that he didn't even complain about playing time while with NYK.

[DapDaGenius]

Don't think he can until he clears waivers...

Oh Okay. Well, that needs to hurry up. I'm tired of hearing the slightly different reports on him already. lol

[Spurs_Be_Beastin']

Fuck him tbh
Its pretty clear he wants to play with cliff paul and the rest of the monkey squad so let him.
He will immediately regret it when they get swept in the second round
( If they make it that far )
Since he wants to be Hollywood and shit, hell get what he deserves.

[mienhmario]

dammit, i'm finding myself checking out this thread 20 times over the course of 3 hours

[look_at_g_shred]

LMAO ^^^ ME TOO BRUH!

[mienhmario]

What makes you think Granger is better than Manu?

Manu has not been a former of himself. He is not what he used to be and I have been saying that since 2009-2010. His best years were 2007-2008. At this moment, Granger is better and much more reliable shooter than Manu. This is my inputs without the stats.

If your comparing prime Manu to Prime Granger, ill take prime Manu. Pime Manu has this fire that is uncomparable to many players in the league.

[mienhmario]

Again, i've said it over and over, if Granger goes to the Spurs, Spurs are VERY DEEP. Granger plays a very reliable role and might take the bulk of Danny Green's minutes. Granger is very reliable. But, I know Spurs will give him the stretch 4 minutes from Bonner and Ayers. With his addition, the 4 and the 5 spot will see a little of reduction in minutes. He is the missing piece btw

[xellos88330]

dammit, i'm finding myself checking out this thread 20 times over the course of 3 hours

You and probably every other Spurs fan on this board. :P

[weeks]

LMAO ^^^ ME TOO BRUH!
:lol me too tbh

[monkeypunk]

If your comparing prime Manu to Prime Granger, ill take prime Manu. Pime Manu has this fire that is uncomparable to many players in the league.

Current Manu absolutely still has the fire but his body can't keep up with his energy level and manic play anymore. He's too driven to see that so he gets injured playing like he's still 25 as we just saw him hurt his hammy dunking.

[Dex]

Fuck him tbh
Its pretty clear he wants to play with cliff paul and the rest of the monkey squad so let him.
He will immediately regret it when they get swept in the second round
( If they make it that far )
Since he wants to be Hollywood and shit, hell get what he deserves.


dammit, i'm finding myself checking out this thread 20 times over the course of 3 hours


LMAO ^^^ ME TOO BRUH!

You realize he can't even make a decision until tomorrow after 5 PM, right? I don't think he can even commit verbally to a team...not publicly, anyways.

Everything that's been floated about is all media speculation tbh.

[jkid12456]

granger is more likely to go to spurs. pacers former assistant coach is here, + he knows ayers, and probably got the heads up from george hill how fantastic and professional spurs are, and who doesn't want to be in a title contending team? clippers, im not so sure about that prospective.

[Barfunk]

Manu has not been a former of himself. He is not what he used to be and I have been saying that since 2009-2010. His best years were 2007-2008. At this moment, Granger is better and much more reliable shooter than Manu. This is my inputs without the stats.

If your comparing prime Manu to Prime Granger, ill take prime Manu. Pime Manu has this fire that is uncomparable to many players in the league.

Prime Manu was a "near number one option" on a couple of championship squads.

[jkid12456]

also i believe pacers run the same kind of style as spurs.

[NickiRasgo]

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Did the Heat called just to say they hate him?

[SpurPadre]

Prime Manu was a "near number one option" on a couple of championship squads.

I'd take out the "near" part, especially in '05 when he should've won NBA Finals MVP.

[Prime Time]

I'd take out the "near" part, especially in '05 when he should've won NBA Finals MVP.
Tim Duncan in the '05 Finals: 21ppg, 14rpg, 2apg, 2bpg
Manu Ginobili in the '05 Finals: 19ppg, 5rpg, 4apg, 1spg

Maybe I'm missing something.

[rastaspur]

Granger is not the missing piece. He is going at this with an allen iverson type mindest imo. Demanding starters minutes on a contender. Any team who would give him starters minutes because he would be their best option is clearly not a contender. That would be like a fat girl going on a double cheeseburger only diet and expect to lose weight. He isnt what he used to be but his too cocky and proud to see it. And also when granger was option a on his team the pacers ceiling was a mediocre team at best and offensively he was somewhat of a blackhole and chucker. I could give two shits if the spurs miss out on him. Defensively he used to be pretty damn good. Injuries have put a dent in those abilities.

[monkeypunk]

I'd take out the "near" part, especially in '05 when he should've won NBA Finals MVP.

I'm partial to '03 when he came back from injury towards the end of the year and just destroyed. No one knew who he was so they hadn't gameplanned for him and he was just a wrecking ball. The best was the look on the other teams players that were just in awe, like "who in the actual fuck is this?" Knocked out the 3 time champ Lakers and made Kobes cry and rang one more time for 50.

Pure bliss!!

[SpurPadre]

Tim Duncan in the '05 Finals: 21ppg, 14rpg, 2apg, 2bpg
Manu Ginobili in the '05 Finals: 19ppg, 5rpg, 4apg, 1spg

Maybe I'm missing something.


You're missing the possibility they were 1A and 1B which still means #1 options

[Prime Time]

You're missing the possibility they were 1A and 1B which still means #1 options
Well sure, But I wouldn't say Ginobili 'deserved' finals MVP over Duncan. He did one HELL of a job, But Duncan was still the main anchor on both ends.

[z0sa]

I'd take out the "near" part, especially in '05 when he should've won NBA Finals MVP.

10 people voted. 6 said Tim Duncan should be Finals MVP. That means Tim Duncan should've been Finals MVP.

Luckily, the vote counter was able to correctly discern this information and correct player was awarded with the trophy.

[SpurPadre]

Well sure, But I wouldn't say Ginobili 'deserved' finals MVP over Duncan. He did one HELL of a job, But Duncan was still the main anchor on both ends.

Ok, maybe not unanimously but the argument can be made that Manu deserved the MVP over TD. I'd have given it to him but can see why others would give it to TD. Although, in Game 7, it took TD 27 shot attempts to get 25 points to Manu's 13 shots to get his 23 and Manu was clutch in the Championship minutes there.

[Juggity]

Ok, maybe not unanimously but the argument can be made that Manu deserved the MVP over TD. I'd have given it to him but can see why others would give it to TD. Although, in Game 7, it took TD 27 shot attempts to get 25 points to Manu's 13 shots to get his 23 and Manu was clutch in the Championship minutes there.

Tim's defensive impact was head and shoulders above Manu's in that series, too. While both were great, Tim definitely deserved the MVP. Came through clutch in the fourth quarter of game 7 to put it away. Easily the toughest series TD ever played matchup-wise, and he came through when everything was on the line.

[SpurPadre]

10 people voted. 6 said Tim Duncan should be Finals MVP. That means Tim Duncan should've been Finals MVP.

Luckily, the vote counter was able to correctly discern this information and correct player was awarded with the trophy.

Needless attempt to be a dick. It's a rational argument.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

10 people voted. 6 said Tim Duncan should be Finals MVP. That means Tim Duncan should've been Finals MVP.

Luckily, the vote counter was able to correctly discern this information and correct player was awarded with the trophy.
Lol Gino's TS% was 61% while Duncan had a 37 TS%

[z0sa]

Needless attempt to be a dick. It's a rational argument.

Your "argument" was that Manu Ginobili "should've" won finals MVP. The facts disagree with that statement.

[z0sa]

Lol Gino's TS% was 61% while Duncan had a 37 TS%

Yeah, I'm sure being guarded by Rasheed Wallace and Ben Wallace and McDyess the majority of the series and keeping them occupied and setting screens for Manu has nothing to do with Manu shooting better.

[SpurPadre]

Tim's defensive impact was head and shoulders above Manu's in that series, too. While both were great, Tim definitely deserved the MVP. Came through clutch in the fourth quarter of game 7 to put it away. Easily the toughest series TD ever played matchup-wise, and he came through when everything was on the line.

Well, it's not really fair to compare defensive assignments in that Finals and Manu was no slouch in it either, leading the team in steals.

[mienhmario]

Granger is not the missing piece. He is going at this with an allen iverson type mindest imo. Demanding starters minutes on a contender. Any team who would give him starters minutes because he would be their best option is clearly not a contender. That would be like a fat girl going on a double cheeseburger only diet and expect to lose weight. He isnt what he used to be but his too cocky and proud to see it. And also when granger was option a on his team the pacers ceiling was a mediocre team at best and offensively he was somewhat of a blackhole and chucker. I could give two shits if the spurs miss out on him. Defensively he used to be pretty damn good. Injuries have put a dent in those abilities.

:frying:

Granger is the missing piece! Your one of those Spurs fan that says Manu can still be the Manu of old?! Stop being in denial. This team needs an extra athletic wing.

[therealtruth]

Your "argument" was that Manu Ginobili "should've" won finals MVP. The facts disagree with that statement.

TD was definitely more consistent from game to game than Manu in that series.

[letmk]

TD was definitely more consistent from game to game than Manu in that series. Manu helps the Spurs win the champion; but Timmy is the foundation; without him, the Spurs doesn't even have a chance. Ditto for 07 though Tony was the Finals MVP. After 08, you may argue Tony has become the foundation (sans last season). Before that, it's all about Timmy.

[z0sa]

TD was definitely more consistent from game to game than Manu in that series.

I agree; I think justice was served.

I would have been okay with a 5-5 vote and Co-MVPs, too. But in no way do I think Manu meant more to the team than Timmy did. Especially Game 7. Spurs down by 9 and season inches from slipping away, on our home floor no less. A call goes our way and all of a sudden no one on the court can guard Timmy, and the master goes to work. Manu was absolutely great all playoffs, but that was one of those rare "snatching victory from the clutches of defeat" moment, only 3rd quarter be damned. If that had lead ballooned up any further, if the Pistons gained any more momentum ... no way do the Spurs rally back, IMHO. The Pistons were just too good.

[NickiRasgo]

WTF. What's with 2005 MVP Finals debate on Granger's status.

[cjw]

Tim Duncan in the '05 Finals: 21ppg, 14rpg, 2apg, 2bpg
Manu Ginobili in the '05 Finals: 19ppg, 5rpg, 4apg, 1spg

Maybe I'm missing something.

I don't think the stats are that far off where giving it to Manu would have been blasphemy. As you remember, Duncan almost cost them game 5 down the stretch. If stats alone told the whole story, Kevin Love would be in the MVP conversation by putting up 27 and 13.

Duncan deserved the MVP, but Manu was playing at a near MVP level in the biggest Finals defensive battle of the past two decades.



Especially Game 7. Spurs down by 9 and season inches from slipping away, on our home floor no less.

That's what clinched it for him no doubt. Just like his play in 6 would have last season.

[DesignatedT]

Manu had a great series but he was playing off of prime Duncan. That opened so many things for him. Duncan was the center of each opponents entire defensive gameplan back then.

[Sean Cagney]

Manu had a great series but he was playing off of prime Duncan. That opened so many things for him. Duncan was the center of each opponents entire defensive gameplan back then.

You are correct. Manu did come up huge though and Tony would always shrivel then and get benched while some others would step in and finish the game so opening up the floor didn't seem to do much for him at the time in the big series.

[BatManu20]

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[TD 21]

Granger is not the missing piece. He is going at this with an allen iverson type mindest imo. Demanding starters minutes on a contender. Any team who would give him starters minutes because he would be their best option is clearly not a contender. That would be like a fat girl going on a double cheeseburger only diet and expect to lose weight. He isnt what he used to be but his too cocky and proud to see it. And also when granger was option a on his team the pacers ceiling was a mediocre team at best and offensively he was somewhat of a blackhole and chucker. I could give two shits if the spurs miss out on him. Defensively he used to be pretty damn good. Injuries have put a dent in those abilities.

This isn't about Granger being a "missing piece". Anyone who knows what they're talking about knows he's a fringe rotation player right now and more than likely will be for the remainder of the season (heck, he might just be that now period, but that can't be said with certainty until next season given how much time he's missed). This is about getting the best insurance possible at this point . . . and let's be honest, no matter how bad he is in his current state, it'd have been nice to see a big name pick the Spurs for once.

[rastaspur]

:frying:

Granger is the missing piece! Your one of those Spurs fan that says Manu can still be the Manu of old?! Stop being in denial. This team needs an extra athletic wing.

Manu is not the manu of old. Similarly, danny granger is not the danny of old. If he was then he never would have been traded and he would have been playingstarters minutes. Lost a step so he cant effectively penetrate. He is essentially a chucker eith length. Current manu > current granger. Granger has never been able to create for others. Manu still can. The majority of people commenting clearly are basing their opinions on old danny. New danny cant surpass danny green, manu or beli in the rotation. Anyone who thinks otherwise is way off.

[TheGoldStandard]

Manu is not the manu of old. Similarly, danny granger is not the danny of old. If he was then he never would have been traded and he would have been playingstarters minutes. Lost a step so he cant effectively penetrate. He is essentially a chucker eith length. Current manu > current granger. Granger has never been able to create for others. Manu still can. The majority of people commenting clearly are basing their opinions on old danny. New danny cant surpass danny green, manu or beli in the rotation. Anyone who thinks otherwise is way off.

Granger on 1 knee is better than Jeff Ayres.

[Budkin]

If you didn't see in the other thread yet, Granger going to the Clips like we all knew he would.

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[DPG21920]

I always have to sit back and laugh at guys who "respect" the Spurs but choose play for a franchise not only known for failure, but the most racist terrible ownership in the game :lol

[TheGoldStandard]

I always have to sit back and laugh at guys who "respect" the Spurs but choose play for a franchise not only known for failure, but the most racist terrible ownership in the game :lol

Don't worry we'll feel better when we see ESPN cut to puppy dog eyed Granger as the clock ticks down on the Clips playoff run, contender my ass.

[DPG21920]

It's not so much the contender thing. It's the going out of the way to say you respect the Spurs would & would love to play for Pop, but don't do it when you have a choice and instead play for a laughing stock of a franchise with one of the worst humans on the planet as an owner.

[TheGoldStandard]

It's not so much the contender thing. It's the going out of the way to say you respect the Spurs would & would love to play for Pop, but don't do it when you have a choice and instead play for a laughing stock of a franchise with one of the worst humans on the planet as an owner.

I respect old people but that doesn't mean if they were putting a team together I'd want to play with them. Spurs are a great organization but Granger knows this is a stop gap, he won't be there past this season if he chose the Spurs and he's thinking long term money.

[DPG21920]

He thinks the Clips are going to sign him? Put it this way, the only way he gets signed by anyone is if he turns back the clock and most teams would sign him if that happens.

But why go out of your way with the dog and pony show when you know damn well you don't want to play for them :lol

[TheGoldStandard]

He thinks the Clips are going to sign him? Put it this way, the only way he gets signed by anyone is if he turns back the clock and most teams would sign him if that happens.

But why go out of your way with the dog and pony show when you know damn well you don't want to play for them :lol

Drum up interest.. sometimes teams will go after a player because another team is mentioned and rather than have them get said player they will just sign him even though he'll probably be buried on the bench and not get the minutes he wants, lol.. Tough shit for Granger.

[DPG21920]

Not only that, but he will have an owner that probably literally views him as a well compensated slave.

[TheGoldStandard]

Not only that, but he will have an owner that probably literally views him as a well compensated slave.

Granger will learn that the Grass isn't always Greener.

[BatManu20]

It's settled. Moving on.

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[Sean Cagney]

Who didn't see this coming? Next...... Now time to end this stupid thread when the last few days we knew he was not leaning or going to SA. Dude is done anyways, book it!

[mienhmario]

I'm all emotional hoping to have Granger in our team and now to have my heart ripped out of me. Granger is freakin good at this point in his career, but his game would not fit well with the Clippers, which will further devalue his stocks and probably get a 10-day contracts next year.


If Granger is going to the Clippers, i hope we crush the Clippers come playoff time. This is personal. Taking him off my twitter!

[rastaspur]

Granger on 1 knee is better than Jeff Ayres.

Agreed. I thought ayres might be an adequate 4th big heading into the season. I was way off on that prediction. He is bush league.

[Spurs_Be_Beastin']

What an idiot.
Have fun losing Granger.

[Ditty]

Nothing against the Clippers. I like them a whole lot more than the other piece of shit team in the same town. I hope we kick the Clippers ass though in the semi finals or conference finals

[justinandimcool]

Elephant in the room: this part is what sucks about having mostly foreigners or old people on our team. It's nice that Euros like Marco and Diaw want to play with the Spurs. However, young black free agents if given a choice will prefer to go to a team where there are personalities he can relate to.

[mienhmario]

dammnit, I am all fired up

CLIPPERS :ihit

[z0sa]

Clippers improve... slightly. Harlem pointed out that granger playing big minutes might actually bring the Spurs down, so let's hope a similar situation might occur in Clipperland.

[TheGoldStandard]

Clippers improve... slightly. Harlem pointed out that granger playing big minutes might actually bring the Spurs down, so let's hope a similar situation might occur in Clipperland.

If he were to take Ayres minutes it would be a net positive.

[z0sa]

If he were to take Ayres minutes it would be a net positive.

That's really only conjecture at this point. Not defending Errors, but we do know what his body's capable of at least.

[TheGoldStandard]

That's really only conjecture at this point. Not defending Errors, but we do know what his body's capable of at least.

That's what I'm afraid of

[Spursfanfromafar]

Aah well.. meh.

I wouldn't be pissed if Granger chose another team. But a team owned by the biggest asshole in the sporting world? Character and all that, meh.

Spurs missing out of yet another possible Kawhi backup is a major concern, IMO.

MWP, for me, is done. Is there any China returnee that the SPurs might consider?

[SpurPadre]

Elephant in the room: this part is what sucks about having mostly foreigners or old people on our team. It's nice that Euros like Marco and Diaw want to play with the Spurs. However, young black free agents if given a choice will prefer to go to a team where there are personalities he can relate to.
So they're xenophobic is what you're saying?

[TheGoldStandard]

So they're xenophobic is what you're saying?

I think he meant they don't all eat chicken... oops

[CitizenDwayne]

Damn...Spurfan taking this one hard. It was just Danny Granger, for chrissakes

[DeadlyDynasty]

Elephant in the room: this part is what sucks about having mostly foreigners or old people on our team. It's nice that Euros like Marco and Diaw want to play with the Spurs. However, young black free agents if given a choice will prefer to go to a team where there are personalities he can relate to.
+1, also doesn't help that the last real black man to play for them was booted off the team (Jax)

[SpurPadre]

+1, also doesn't help that the last real black man to play for them was booted off the team (Jax)
Ignorant comment.

[HI-FI]

not pissed at Granger, he should do what he feels is best, but agree with DPG, what's the point of saying you respect the Spurs when really you want to play for one of the worst owners in the NBA. Just stupid.

something else lil DPG pointed out earlier is why has RC been so quiet this year? just strange. hope he is alright, because not sure how I feel about his work this season. If we win it all then I'll shut up with whatever criticism I have.

[SpurPadre]

Damn...Spurfan taking this one hard. It was just Danny Granger, for chrissakes
It's not really about granger more about just being tired of players snubbing us like it's the thing to do.

[thunderup]

:lmao:lmao Spurs

[Floyd Pacquiao]

San Antonio isnt "black enough" for Granger, he's headed to LA imo.
Like I was saying...

[DeadlyDynasty]

It's not really about granger more about just being tired of players snubbing us like it's the thing to do. Budkin (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=1722) hit the nail on the head in the other thread, but there's many factors that go along with this...

1. Signing with the Spurs essentially means you are agreeing to be marginalized into whatever role Pop wants
2. Less freedom and oppotunity to showcase your talents
3. It's San Antonio...a river of sewage with some nice steakhouses and subpar women (don't even try to argue the latter)

[NickiRasgo]

Please change title to:

"Spurs fan "pissed" when learned Granger signed with the Clippers"

I'm pissed. F*ck you Danny Granger you ruined my birthday.

[ElNono]

Please change title to:

"Spurs fan "pissed" when learned Granger signed with the Clippers"

I'm pissed. F*ck you Danny Granger you ruined my birthday.

happy bday lil Nicky!

[Killakobe81]

Nothing against the Clippers. I like them a whole lot more than the other piece of shit team in the same town. I hope we kick the Clippers ass though in the semi finals or conference finals
I wonder why?!

[Killakobe81]

Think it was a dumb decision based on the popularity of Paul and Doc and probably better looking women.
Spurs had a clear need and better fit.
Oh well if Spurs get healthy they still much better than CLips.
CLips are an increasing threat to your Spurs.

[NickiRasgo]

happy bday lil Nicky!

Thank you! :) Actually my birthday is Feb. 25 but I'm really hoping that Spurs would able to sign Granger as a post-birthday gift. #SpursFanProblem I'm really pissed. Every year, this particular player will be rumored to us then eventually won't choose us.

Let's get Metta please!

[therealtruth]

I agree; I think justice was served.

I would have been okay with a 5-5 vote and Co-MVPs, too. But in no way do I think Manu meant more to the team than Timmy did. Especially Game 7. Spurs down by 9 and season inches from slipping away, on our home floor no less. A call goes our way and all of a sudden no one on the court can guard Timmy, and the master goes to work. Manu was absolutely great all playoffs, but that was one of those rare "snatching victory from the clutches of defeat" moment, only 3rd quarter be damned. If that had lead ballooned up any further, if the Pistons gained any more momentum ... no way do the Spurs rally back, IMHO. The Pistons were just too good.

It also helped Larry Brown went away from McDice who was killing us in that game.

[therealtruth]

The Spurs still haven't gotten their Manu insurance. Stephen Jackson was good to have as insurance for Manu injured or playing bad. What do we do next time Manu's stinking it up on the court in an important playoff game? Granger would have been a nice fallback option.

[bklynspursfan]

The Spurs still haven't gotten their Manu insurance. Stephen Jackson was good to have as insurance for Manu injured or playing bad. What do we do next time Manu's stinking it up on the court in an important playoff game? Granger would have been a nice fallback option.

Marco

[Mel_13]

Marco

Yeah, it's as if he doesn't watch the games.

[Texas_Ranger]

I am shocked.

Fuck the Clippers and Granger.

[Spur|n|Austin]

I am shocked.

Fuck the Clippers and Granger.

Really?

I'm def a little angry and annoyed, but by no means shocked. We see this every season.

[look_at_g_shred]

Damn I hope we see the Clippers in the playoffs :hungry:

[Texas_Ranger]

Really?

I'm def a little angry and annoyed, but by no means shocked. We see this every season.

I was not being serious. I kinda knew he was going to LA.

[look_at_g_shred]

Can we get a line through this thread?

[Expert]

Danny Granger does not want to live in SA. He'll go to the Clippers and that will be that.
like I said

[CitizenDwayne]

It's not really about granger more about just being tired of players snubbing us like it's the thing to do.

Well get the fuck over it. Granger would have made little difference in the long run. This is just one thing you have to accept as a fan of a small market team. If you scared, go to church.

[xmas1997]

Budkin (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=1722) hit the nail on the head in the other thread, but there's many factors that go along with this...

1. Signing with the Spurs essentially means you are agreeing to be marginalized into whatever role Pop wants
2. Less freedom and oppotunity to showcase your talents
3. It's San Antonio...a river of sewage with some nice steakhouses and subpar women (don't even try to argue the latter)

This, the most ignorant post on here from probably the most ignorant poster.
How about you go fuck yourself a few times and then cut your throat for good measure?
That would benefit the human race with one less ignoramus to deal with.
:lol

[SpurPadre]

Well get the fuck over it. Granger would have made little difference in the long run. This is just one thing you have to accept as a fan of a small market team. If you scared, go to church.

Uh, ok. I'm past it now, if you'd notice my post activity in the past couple of hours. It is what it is. Though that's not to say we don't have a right to express concern for the team, which is fucking ridiculous.

[hitmantb]

Did anyone not realize clippers has a much brighter future than post Duncan spurs which can start as early as next season?

Also with Griffin/Paul playing like Stoudamire/Nash, no prime GDP around to stop them. Clippers may actually beat spurs this year.

I mean I love Duncan but he is almost done. Griffin is simply a much stronger player at current stage of their careers.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Clippers may actually beat spurs this year.

:lmao

Maybe if the big 3 don't show up...

Oh wait, they still couldn't do that this year :lmao

[xmas1997]

like I said


Did anyone not realize clippers has a much brighter future than post Duncan spurs which can start as early as next season?

Also with Griffin/Paul playing like Stoudamire/Nash, no prime GDP around to stop them. Clippers may actually beat spurs this year.

I mean I love Duncan but he is almost done. Griffin is simply a much stronger player at this stage of their careers.


This may happen unfortunately. But some on here are wearing blinders.

[hitmantb]

Clippers also beat Spurs earlier in the season.

[kobe4life]

Not surprising considering playing in SA is like living in a sewage. I knew Granger would never come to your shit hole team. Your recruitment is crap I just can't see Duncan,Parker,Ginobili being able to successfully recruit guys like some players around the league can. You guys should just be happy he didn't decided to join forces with the Great Satan.

[DPG21920]

:lol I hope that Sterling sits courtside and heckles this dude

[Spur|n|Austin]

Not surprising considering playing in SA is like living in a sewage. I knew Granger would never come to your shit hole team. Your recruitment is crap I just can't see Duncan,Parker,Ginobili being able to successfully recruit guys like some players around the league can. You guys should just be happy he didn't decided to join forces with the Great Satan.

Lakers.

[xmas1997]

Not surprising considering playing in SA is like living in a sewage. I knew Granger would never come to your shit hole team. Your recruitment is crap I just can't see Duncan,Parker,Ginobili being able to successfully recruit guys like some players around the league can. You guys should just be happy he didn't decided to join forces with the Great Satan.


So says the troll. Trolling give you some sort of perverse satisfaction in your pathetic little insignificant life?
:lol

[kobe4life]

So says the troll. Trolling give you some sort of perverse satisfaction in your pathetic little insignificant life?
:lol

You should know better that most of us Lakerfans have great lives. The Lakers tend to attract people who are successful while the Spurs attract a fanbase that is filled with a bunch of unsuccessful people. I'm sure if somebody researched it heavily there are probably more lakerfans who are millionaires vs spurfans.

[xmas1997]

You should know better that most of us Lakerfans have great lives. The Lakers tend to attract people who are successful while the Spurs attract a fanbase that is filled with a bunch of unsuccessful people. I'm sure if somebody researched it heavily there are probably more lakerfans who are millionaires vs spurfans.


Another ignorant post from the troll. My first post about you still stands beyond refutation.
Everyone knows the Lakers have always attracted the rubbish and cesspools.
Why should things be any different now all of a sudden?
Your contention is just another example of wrong side of the tracks ignorance, and nothing more.
Talk to the hand!
:lol

[dunkman]

He wasn't going to get much playtime with Green, Manu, Belli and Kawhi at SF-SF positions. To guarant playtime for Granger the Spurs would marginalized Green or Belli, which doesn't make sense. The Spurs also have Diaw and Kawhi for small ball line-ups. Granger would have improved the roster, but not by much. Green and Manu give some inches at the SF position, but are good for the other teams backups.

Not sure why is everyone wining about FA not signing with the Spurs. The team has as good chances to land a FA as any other team not named the Heat or the Lakers.

Diaw was a solid addition, Belli too.

[xmas1997]

He wasn't going to get much playtime with Green, Manu, Belli and Kawhi at SF-SF positions. To guarant playtime for Granger the Spurs would marginalized Green or Belli, which doesn't make sense. The Spurs also have Diaw and Kawhi for small ball line-ups. Granger would have improved the roster, but not by much. Green and Manu give some inches at the SF position, but are good for the other teams backups.

Not sure why is everyone wining about FA not signing with the Spurs. The team has as good chances to land a FA as any other team not named the Heat or the Lakers.

Diaw was a solid addition, Belli too.

Excellent post. Why can't others be as sensible as you?

[CitizenDwayne]

Uh, ok. I'm past it now, if you'd notice my post activity in the past couple of hours. It is what it is. Though that's not to say we don't have a right to express concern for the team, which is fucking ridiculous.

The Spurs are gradually getting healthy, finally winning some games against good teams, and all this with an aging core. They'll be fine. Save your concern for the post-Big 3 era.

Only thing I'm concerned about is getting saddled with Jamison.

[xmas1997]

The Spurs are gradually getting healthy, finally winning some games against good teams, and all this with an aging core. They'll be fine. Save your concern for the post-Big 3 era.

Only thing I'm concerned about is getting saddled with Jamison.


Or worse, Artest!

[CitizenDwayne]

Or worse, Artest!

Jamison is worse than Artest this year, just going off stats, not even including Artest's defense and Jamison's tendency to choke.

[DMC]

So that's the only answer you can reply with. lol

Good to know you're as doltish as I presumed.


You should pay closer attention to my takes on things. As a writer it would behoove you to know what the fuck you're talking about.

[Malik Hairston]

Again, i've said it over and over, if Granger goes to the Spurs, Spurs are VERY DEEP. Granger plays a very reliable role and might take the bulk of Danny Green's minutes. Granger is very reliable. But, I know Spurs will give him the stretch 4 minutes from Bonner and Ayers. With his addition, the 4 and the 5 spot will see a little of reduction in minutes. He is the missing piece btw

:lmao..

[Malik Hairston]

Granger isn't done, he just isn't all star caliber anymore. He's more than capable of performing in a reduced role. Look at his highlights for the year. . .he's still moving well and has a sweet jumpshot with the quick release still.

:lmao..

[Malik Hairston]

Everyone thought Duncan was done in 11', Ginobili last year, etc.

It's not like Granger can't make a comeback too.. to me it seems more like rust/finding his game/new role, etc. than being bad itself. I think he's a huge pick-up for any team.. Idk how anyone can twist that.

:lmao..

[Malik Hairston]

:lmao arguably the worst player in the playoffs:lmao..

[Budkin]

:lol Granger choosing the Clippers.

[DPG21920]

I always have to sit back and laugh at guys who "respect" the Spurs but choose play for a franchise not only known for failure, but the most racist terrible ownership in the game :lol


It's not so much the contender thing. It's the going out of the way to say you respect the Spurs would & would love to play for Pop, but don't do it when you have a choice and instead play for a laughing stock of a franchise with one of the worst humans on the planet as an owner.


Not only that, but he will have an owner that probably literally views him as a well compensated slave.

Didn't see that one coming.

[SpurPadre]

Didn't see that one coming.

LOL. Good call, man! :tu

[testies]

dodged a massive bullet

lol @ retards wanting him here

same assholes that did the xenofobic anti-euro thread

[TheyCallMePro]

I never saw Granger make a shot in this series. He was horrible. Kind of shows you what an 'All-Star' in the Eastern Conference looks like when he's playing in the West. Awful.

[Sean Cagney]

I never saw Granger make a shot in this series. He was horrible. Kind of shows you what an 'All-Star' in the Eastern Conference looks like when he's playing in the West. Awful.

He is a shell of his former self, even out East he was shooting horrible this year. He has been done since his last injury. If he was in his prime and healthy (His short prime) He would shine out East or West, not fair to down him after he was already done lol.

[apalisoc_9]

kidd k :lmao

[ElNono]

yah, he's pretty much done

[ChumpDumper]

I'd be willing to take a flyer on Granger. If he could get back to his old form he could really help the spurs offensively and maybe even make Leonard expendable.lol

I was fine with the potential Granger pickup, but holy shit.

[Robz4000]

Holy shit, DPGstradamus in dis thread...

[ShoogarBear]

Didn't see that one coming.

So now we know who made those tapes.

[KaiRMD1]

Didn't see that one coming.:lmao ol' sport called it

[hsxvvd]

Wowzers DPG that's some insightful predictions.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

:lmao..

You've been waiting a long time to bump this huh? Congrats man...

[DPG21920]

So now we know who made those tapes.

I wish it was me. Then not only could I have made money I would have had a forum to call out Doc & Paul & the NBA with truth bombs.

[ShoogarBear]

I wish it was me. Then not only could I have made money I would have had a forum to call out Doc & Paul & the NBA with truth bombs.

And you could have scored some quality time with V.

[heyheymymy]

I wish it was me. Then not only could I have made money I would have had a forum to call out Doc & Paul & the NBA with truth bombs.


solid foresight with that one, that's a pretty impressive call that you just nailed

[T Park]

And you could have scored some quality time with V.

He would've caught 50 different diseases though.

[NickiRasgo]

Take that. So much for Doc's promises. Good luck with your off-season though. Trying to redeem yourself to increase your value for the off-season? Now take that. You should be celebrating but you are being delusional.

[Uriel]

Thank God he chose the Clippers. :lol Disaster averted.

[DPG21920]

:lol Danny "no cartilage left in his knee version of Batman" Granger.

[Dverde]

How were those starter minutes Doc promised you? Doc will say anything to prevent other teams signing players. Idiot.