Have you read Mein Kampf?

[DMX7]

I haven't read the whole thing beginning to end, but I've read large excerpts of it (including every reference to America) and I was surprised how analytical it is. It is still essentially the ravings of a mad man, but it did give me some very good insight into Hitler's thinking and justification for the things he did. Have you read it?

[DeadlyDynasty]

I have it on paperback. Poorly written but interesting nonetheless. Most of it is raving, but there's also a lot of truth in it.

[baseline bum]

Never have picked it up. Is that where he lays out his brilliant strategy for fighting a war on two fronts and somehow managing to unite the communists and capitalists? :lol

[DMX7]

Never have picked it up. Is that where he lays out his brilliant strategy for fighting a war on two fronts and somehow managing to unite the communists and capitalists? :lol

I think Hitler got lulled into a false sense of security since it seemed as though no country he wasn't already invading would actually resist him until GB finally did. I don't think he ever wanted to face the U.S. -- at least not until he had conquered all of Europe, but Japan pressured him into declaring war against the U.S. after Pearl Harbor which he likely didn't even see coming.

[pgardn]

Parts, the Eugenics and rantings about international Jewry.

The eugenics stuff is of course completely outdated and laughable.
The Jew paranoia is so overdone its funny.
The parts I read were horribly written, maybe the English translation.
Other parts were so incredibly redundant... Could not forge thru the clutter.

[DMX7]

I got the sense reading it that Hitler was not fond of the Jews.

[lefty]

http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/aD07rYw_700b.jpg

[boutons_deux]

I got the sense reading it that Hitler was not fond of the Jews.

... the eventual extermination victims were much more varied

In addition to Jews, the targeted groups included

Poles (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poles) (of whom 2.5 million gentile Poles were killed) and some other Slavic peoples (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavic_peoples);

Soviets (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_nation)(particularly prisoners of war (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prisoner_of_war));

Romanies (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romani_people) (also known as Gypsies) and

others who did not belong to the Aryan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aryan_race)Herrenvolk (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herrenvolk) "Aryan master race";

thementally ill (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mental_disorder),

the deaf,

the physically disabled (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disability) and

mentally retarded (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mental_retardation);

homosexual (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality) and

transsexual (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transsexualism) people;

political opponents such as

communists (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communists),

social democrats (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_democracy) and

socialists (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism); and

religious dissidents (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dissident), i.e. members of Jehovah's Witnesses (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jehovah%27s_Witnesses).[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust_victims#cite_note-Berenbaum125ff-2)[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust_victims#cite_note-EBnon-Jews-3)

Taking into account all of the victims of Nazi persecution, they systematically killed an estimated six million Jews and mass murdered an additional eleven million people during the war.

Donald Niewyk suggests that the broadest definition, including Soviet civilian deaths would produce a death toll of 17 million.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust_victims

[DMX7]

... the eventual extermination victims were much more varied

In addition to Jews, the targeted groups included

Poles (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poles) (of whom 2.5 million gentile Poles were killed) and some other Slavic peoples (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavic_peoples);

Soviets (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_nation)(particularly prisoners of war (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prisoner_of_war));

Romanies (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romani_people) (also known as Gypsies) and

others who did not belong to the Aryan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aryan_race)Herrenvolk (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herrenvolk) "Aryan master race";

thementally ill (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mental_disorder),

the deaf,

the physically disabled (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disability) and

mentally retarded (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mental_retardation);

homosexual (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality) and

transsexual (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transsexualism) people;

political opponents such as

communists (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communists),

social democrats (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_democracy) and

socialists (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism); and

religious dissidents (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dissident), i.e. members of Jehovah's Witnesses (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jehovah%27s_Witnesses).[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust_victims#cite_note-Berenbaum125ff-2)[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust_victims#cite_note-EBnon-Jews-3)

Taking into account all of the victims of Nazi persecution, they systematically killed an estimated six million Jews and mass murdered an additional eleven million people during the war.

Donald Niewyk suggests that the broadest definition, including Soviet civilian deaths would produce a death toll of 17 million.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust_victims




He made it pretty clear that the Germans needed more land at all costs. They killed socialists? They were socialists.

[The Reckoning]

you have to remember that this was fresh off WW1, which was strictly the product of nationalism. with the defeat of the germans in WW1, hitler needed someone to blame in order to restore faith in the german master race that it wasn't their weaknesses that led to failure but others.

he produced his doctrine, he shouted it at the top of his lungs, and those who felt the raw 'struggle' of the great depression in germany ate it up like a serving of sauerkraut and brats.

[baseline bum]

He made it pretty clear that the Germans needed more land at all costs. They killed socialists? They were socialists.

They killed the communists and social democrats who wanted to promote class consciousness, which was a big no-no in Hitler's Germany.

[DMX7]

I'm kind of surprised WC hasn't weighted in with some horrifically and unintentionally racist remark.

[EVAY]

I'm kind of surprised WC hasn't weighted in with some horrifically and unintentionally racist remark.

:lol:toast

[EVAY]

I read it because I wanted to understand what the jerk was about. But it is truly rant-worthy.

He is so nuts in it you begin to realize why some in Germany didn't take him all that seriously…they kept thinking that he would be 'exposed'.

[EVAY]

My favorite Hitler quote is the one from 1937 when he said "Give me 10 years and you won't recognize Berlin." And he was right!!!:lol

[angrydude]

Never have picked it up. Is that where he lays out his brilliant strategy for fighting a war on two fronts and somehow managing to unite the communists and capitalists? :lol

He only attacked the USSR because Stalin was gearing up to attack him. If he hadn't, the soviets probably would have beat him a lot easier later on.

[DMX7]

He only attacked the USSR because Stalin was gearing up to attack him. If he hadn't, the soviets probably would have beat him a lot easier later on.

Source? I was not familiar with that.

[russellgoat]

... the eventual extermination victims were much more varied

In addition to Jews, the targeted groups included

Poles (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poles) (of whom 2.5 million gentile Poles were killed) and some other Slavic peoples (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavic_peoples);

Soviets (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_nation)(particularly prisoners of war (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prisoner_of_war));

Romanies (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romani_people) (also known as Gypsies) and

others who did not belong to the Aryan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aryan_race)Herrenvolk (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herrenvolk) "Aryan master race";

thementally ill (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mental_disorder),

the deaf,

the physically disabled (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disability) and

mentally retarded (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mental_retardation);

homosexual (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality) and

transsexual (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transsexualism) people;

political opponents such as

communists (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communists),

social democrats (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_democracy) and

socialists (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism); and

religious dissidents (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dissident), i.e. members of Jehovah's Witnesses (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jehovah%27s_Witnesses).[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust_victims#cite_note-Berenbaum125ff-2)[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust_victims#cite_note-EBnon-Jews-3)

Taking into account all of the victims of Nazi persecution, they systematically killed an estimated six million Jews and mass murdered an additional eleven million people during the war.

Donald Niewyk suggests that the broadest definition, including Soviet civilian deaths would produce a death toll of 17 million.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust_victims




Is there any place in the world where Jehovah's witnesses are liked?