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Gino-Step
04-15-2014, 03:46 PM
Let's revisit this ranking. Manu got ranked #86 among players for their expected contributions THIS season only.

He turned in the following stats:#1 in offensive efficiency #9 in Real Plus Minus #27 in PER

Yet he does not make the All-Star Game. Will not get All-NBA honours. Will likely not finish in the top 2 in 6-man of the year awards losing to Taj Gibson and Jamal Crawford.

Completely underpaid at $7m a year for being a top 30 player in the league. (Which by definition means 'franchise' player)

So sad this man will be forgotten. He was never celebrated by the masses, and is already forgotten and all this while he's still playing.

Respect.

hater
04-15-2014, 03:50 PM
being a top 30 player in the league.

:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao v

Aztecfan03
04-15-2014, 04:46 PM
:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao

jARS mEsH sEt
04-15-2014, 06:58 PM
Holy fucking shit you are god damned delusional. Manutards have to be among the lowest iq people on this board.

ElNono
04-15-2014, 07:02 PM
Unfortunately his Finals performance didn't help in the contract negotiations... but we'll adjust the numbers for his next deal...

apalisoc_9
04-15-2014, 10:21 PM
I'm a huge manu fan but he's not a top 30 player :lol

I do think 86 is a joke, but he should be around top 50 right now...

TheyCallMePro
04-15-2014, 10:25 PM
At this point I'm used to it. People call Spurs fans whiners because we complain that the media doesn't talk about our team much. That's not it. We're upset because our players, specifically Tony Parker and Manu Ginobil, don't get the respect they deserve.

Tony Parker is the best PG of this generation, and there's a close second. And yet you constantly hear that he's just a 'top 5' PG and that Chris Paul or Deron Williams, or even Rajon Rondo are better PG's than him. Blasphemous. Tony Parker has always DESTROYED those guys in the playoffs.

And Manu fucking Ginobili. Oh my God where do I begin? He's perhaps the greatest competitor on earth, and is absolutely a top 20 player all time, and yet you hear the media actually debate whether he should be in the 'Hall of Fame'... I mean, it's just sickening. I almost wish Manu had left the Spurs early in his career, gone to another team, and led his new team to multiple championships just so everyone could know how great he was.

Without a doubt, Tony Parker and Mani Ginobili are going to go down as two of the most underrated players in NBA history. And that's why Spurs fans are always angry at the media. Because they only talk about and acknowledge two things: how great Duncan is, and how great the Spurs 'system' is. But Parker and Ginobili are 100% forgotten and dis-respected at every turn, when they're elite all time players. It's a shame.

superjames1992
04-15-2014, 10:54 PM
Unfortunately his Finals performance didn't help in the contract negotiations... but we'll adjust the numbers for his next deal...
7-year max contract in 2015, tbh...

:lol

superjames1992
04-15-2014, 10:55 PM
I'm a huge manu fan but he's not a top 30 player :lol

I do think 86 is a joke, but he should be around top 50 right now...
Agreed, tbh.

Manu is a top 5 SG in today's NBA, though, IMO... SG in the NBA is kind of weak now, especially with Kobe's TOSBness. You might be able to make an argument for top 3, tbh.

Xylus
04-15-2014, 11:33 PM
Just for shits and giggles, I went and looked at Goran Dragic's player ranking before the season started. Obviously, no one could know he'd blossom into an upper-echelon player, but this is pretty damn funny.

He's ranked #107.

Players ranked higher than Goran Dragic:

OJ Mayo :lol
Danny Granger :lol
Brandon Jennings :lol
Ricky Rubio :lol :lol :lol
Ersan Ilyasova :lol
JaVale McGee :lol
Tristan Thompson :lol
Andrew Bynum :lol :lol
Andrei Kirilenko :lol :lol
Jeremy Lin :lmao :lmao :lmao
Steve Nash :rollin
DeAndre Jordan :lol
Damian Lillard :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao
Kobe Bryant :elephant

dallasmaverickslose
04-15-2014, 11:33 PM
Who cares, let him prove himself in the playoffs.

Sean Cagney
04-15-2014, 11:48 PM
LOL top 30 player in the league, you ruined your post right there. I am a Manu fan and wish him well but cot damn some of you fans are just delusional at times with that CRAP. He is not a top 30 player in the league, sorry. He is around 50 some odd now. He is a great 6th man, no doubt.
Who cares, let him prove himself in the playoffs.
He has already before but I agree I hope he does well this year.

CitizenDwayne
04-16-2014, 12:30 AM
Just for shits and giggles, I went and looked at Goran Dragic's player ranking before the season started. Obviously, no one could know he'd blossom into an upper-echelon player, but this is pretty damn funny.

He's ranked #107.

Players ranked higher than Goran Dragic:

OJ Mayo :lol
Danny Granger :lol
Brandon Jennings :lol
Ricky Rubio :lol :lol :lol
Ersan Ilyasova :lol
JaVale McGee :lol
Tristan Thompson :lol
Andrew Bynum :lol :lol
Andrei Kirilenko :lol :lol
Jeremy Lin :lmao :lmao :lmao
Steve Nash :rollin
DeAndre Jordan :lol
Damian Lillard :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao
Kobe Bryant :elephant

RIP PHX's season. Y'all niggas deserved better.

ego
04-16-2014, 01:45 AM
Without a doubt, Tony Parker and Mani Ginobili are going to go down as two of the most underrated players in NBA history. ... It's a shame.

+100 !

gilmor
04-16-2014, 02:13 AM
7-year max contract in 2015, tbh...

:lol

Won't happen..

He will be what? 40 years old?

superjames1992
04-16-2014, 09:23 AM
Won't happen..

He will be what? 40 years old?
:lol

Almost.

It was a joke, though, tbqh.

Cry Havoc
04-16-2014, 09:32 AM
Won't happen..

He will be what? 40 years old?

You took his comment seriously?

313
04-16-2014, 09:44 AM
:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao

Johnny RIngo
04-16-2014, 11:53 AM
Let's revisit this ranking. Manu got ranked #86 among players for their expected contributions THIS season only.

He turned in the following stats:#1 in offensive efficiency #9 in Real Plus Minus #27 in PER

Yet he does not make the All-Star Game. Will not get All-NBA honours. Will likely not finish in the top 2 in 6-man of the year awards losing to Taj Gibson and Jamal Crawford.

Completely underpaid at $7m a year for being a top 30 player in the league. (Which by definition means 'franchise' player)

So sad this man will be forgotten. He was never celebrated by the masses, and is already forgotten and all this while he's still playing.

Respect.

He plays 22 minutes/game which is pretty much role-player status. What the hell did you expect? Manu's per minute production is great though - most people will agree with you on that.

cd021
04-16-2014, 02:17 PM
RIP PHX's season. Y'all niggas deserved better.


they have a very good future ahead of them. They have 5 (total) 1st round in this and next years draft (assuming Minny finishes high enough for their pick to transfer) thats not including Len and Goodwin who were top 20 picks last year. They could even package those picks to move up in the draft or to help in acquire a top player in a trade.

Sportstudi
04-16-2014, 02:29 PM
Completely underpaid at $7m a year for being a top 30 player in the league. (Which by definition means 'franchise' player)



:lmao :lmao :lmao




And Manu fucking Ginobili. Oh my God where do I begin? He's perhaps the greatest competitor on earth, and is absolutely a top 20 player all time, and yet you hear the media actually debate whether he should be in the 'Hall of Fame'... I mean, it's just sickening. I almost wish Manu had left the Spurs early in his career, gone to another team, and led his new team to multiple championships just so everyone could know how great he was.

:lmao :lmao :lmao

Holy shit, that's completely delusional. I have nothing against Manu, but these claims are ridiculous.

jARS mEsH sEt
04-16-2014, 02:35 PM
:lmao :lmao :lmao



:lmao :lmao :lmao

Holy shit, that's completely delusional. I have nothing against Manu, but these claims are ridiculous.

It's comical.

:lmao @ having the audacity to call Manu TOSBnobili a "franchise player" Gino-step is gunning for a world record in lowest IQ posts.

Gino-Step
04-16-2014, 02:53 PM
It's comical.

:lmao @ having the audacity to call Manu TOSBnobili a "franchise player" Gino-step is gunning for a world record in lowest IQ posts.

Franchise player means the #1 player for your franchise. There are 30 franchises in the league so if he's a top 30 player, he's a franchise player. Got it? The Spurs are #1 because they have 3-4 franchise players. The Bucks are #30 because they have none. 1 player per franchise = Top 30 players.

Now as far as was Manu Ginobili a top 30 player this year? Well let's look at that same ESPN rank.

#27 Rajon Rondo
#28 Brook Lopez
#29 Pau Gasol
#30 Damian Lillard

Would you like to replace Manu with any of those 4 players right now for the playoffs? (Assume Pau and Brook can play at the levels they played at THIS SEASON).

So disrespectful.

jARS mEsH sEt
04-16-2014, 05:41 PM
Franchise player means the #1 player for your franchise. There are 30 franchises in the league so if he's a top 30 player, he's a franchise player. Got it? The Spurs are #1 because they have 3-4 franchise players. The Bucks are #30 because they have none. 1 player per franchise = Top 30 players.

Now as far as was Manu Ginobili a top 30 player this year? Well let's look at that same ESPN rank.

#27 Rajon Rondo
#28 Brook Lopez
#29 Pau Gasol
#30 Damian Lillard

Would you like to replace Manu with any of those 4 players right now for the playoffs? (Assume Pau and Brook can play at the levels they played at THIS SEASON).

So disrespectful.

Your "replacement" criterion is flawed to begin with. All four players are better than Manu Ginobili, but they would all be completely new to the spurs system and so there would be chemistry issues with such little practice time. Then there's the fact that none of them play the same position as Manu. We have a great big in Splitter but we have a dearth of guards who can create for others. If Rondo was healthy and had sufficient practice time with the Spurs, then yes I would absolutely replace Manu with Rondo. It's a no-brainer.

The Spurs had one franchise player in the last 15 years in Tim Duncan. Manu was never a franchise player. Tony was never a franchise player, although he was closer to achieving "franchise status" during his peak (probably the last two seasons) than Manu.

jARS mEsH sEt
04-16-2014, 05:44 PM
Franchise player means the #1 player for your franchise. There are 30 franchises in the league so if he's a top 30 player, he's a franchise player. Got it? The Spurs are #1 because they have 3-4 franchise players. The Bucks are #30 because they have none. 1 player per franchise = Top 30 players.


And great fucking job contradicting yourself :lmao

First you say franchise player means "#1 player for your franchise." There are 30 teams, and there is a #1 player for all 30 teams, so in principle there should be at least 30 franchise players.

But then you arbitrarily say that the Bucks have 0 franchise players. You can't even stick to your own definition :rollin and following suit I'll say that the Spurs currently have 0 franchise players.

N0 LyF3 ScRuB
04-16-2014, 06:11 PM
05 Manu was way closer to franchise player than 13 Parker

rascal
04-16-2014, 07:21 PM
Let's revisit this ranking. Manu got ranked #86 among players for their expected contributions THIS season only.

He turned in the following stats:#1 in offensive efficiency #9 in Real Plus Minus #27 in PER

Yet he does not make the All-Star Game. Will not get All-NBA honours. Will likely not finish in the top 2 in 6-man of the year awards losing to Taj Gibson and Jamal Crawford.

Completely underpaid at $7m a year for being a top 30 player in the league. (Which by definition means 'franchise' player)

So sad this man will be forgotten. He was never celebrated by the masses, and is already forgotten and all this while he's still playing.

Respect.

Part time players don't make the All Star team. Manu has never even had the overall stats to justify being an All Star.

ElNono
04-16-2014, 07:29 PM
Part time players don't make the All Star team.

Except when your name is Kobe...

DAF86
04-16-2014, 11:15 PM
20+ PER at age 36. How many players in history have accomplished this? Not many I think.

ElNono
04-16-2014, 11:19 PM
20+ PER at age 36. How many players in history have accomplished this? Not many I think.

gonna be 37 in just a couple months

KaiRMD1
04-17-2014, 04:30 AM
Kobe Bryant :elephant

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