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Aremid
04-19-2014, 11:00 PM
Good God somebody needs to call out this b s

cjw
04-19-2014, 11:04 PM
Play out of control = get fouls called all day plus inadvertent elbows to everyone on Memphis with nothing on that end.

Only reason they got up big was because Grizz couldn't hit anything in the first. Force them into a half court game and doesn't look very pretty.

Budkin
04-19-2014, 11:05 PM
Free ride on the Reflahoma Express!

exstatic
04-19-2014, 11:06 PM
Good God somebody needs to call out this b s

I laughed and turned it off after the first couple of minutes. Connolly was bumped HARD on the perimeter, and didn't even get a foul call, let alone the continuation he should have had for shooting the ball without putting it back onto the floor.

jARS mEsH sEt
04-19-2014, 11:09 PM
Whenever the game is in doubt, you can count on the refs giving them an astronomical free throw advantage. No charge call on conley which led to a wide open dunk by butler. No call on pushing randolph down which led to a run out and free throws for durant. Ticky tack bullshit on Durant (Allen barely grazed Durant's hand which is considered part of the ball) and Durant gets 3 free throws.

And the thing is, it's not just Durant and Westbrook who get favorable calls. Every fucking player on that team gets bullshit calls on a daily basis.

OKC is something like .35 FTA/FGA. Rockets are up there as well. The next highest team is like .25. It's just disgusting and their retard fan base doesn't even realize it.

jARS mEsH sEt
04-19-2014, 11:09 PM
I'm sure some moron OKC fan will read that post and think it's just sour grapes, but then why don't I complain about any other team? It is literally just OKC.

jARS mEsH sEt
04-19-2014, 11:11 PM
And Durant is the 2nd best player in the league. Why the fuck does he always flop so god damned much? It's disgusting. He's almost as bad as Manu was when Manu was flopping all over the place during his prime, but given how bad Manu was being "almost as bad" is pretty fucking bad.

jARS mEsH sEt
04-19-2014, 11:13 PM
At worst OKC will always be even with the opposing team in terms of free throw attempts. I can count the number of times I've seen the opposing team get more free throws than OKC on a single fucking finger.

jARS mEsH sEt
04-19-2014, 11:15 PM
Prime lakers never got anywhere near the bullshit free throw advantage that OKC gets. I honestly can't think of a more fraudulent team than OKC in the past 30 years.

Reck
04-19-2014, 11:18 PM
Never seem a team get this much constant love from the refs.

I mean, this is beyond ridiculous. Some teams do get the benefit of the doubt every once in a while but Thunder are a fixture with them refs.

The sad part is that they dont even need such protection from them and yet they still do.

That's why I try to avoid watching more than a quarter of play with this team. It sickens me to hell.

TampaDude
04-19-2014, 11:20 PM
If I'm defending KD, and I know I'm getting whistled even on minor contact, then why not lay his ass out? Hard foul Durant like Bill Laimbeer would...make him earn those free throws with blood and bruises.

N0 LyF3 ScRuB
04-19-2014, 11:20 PM
Six straight possessions to the free throw line. Three fouls in two minutes on Randolph. This game was horrendous.

The refs would not let the Spurs beat OKC.

jARS mEsH sEt
04-19-2014, 11:21 PM
Never seem a team get this much constant love from the refs.

I mean, this is beyond ridiculous. Some teams do get the benefit of the doubt every once in a while but Thunder are a fixture with them refs.

The sad part is that they dont even need such protection from them and yet they still do.

That's why I try to avoid watching more than a quarter of play with this team. It sickens me to hell.

It is sad, and then what happens when the refs finally call a series fair (i.e. Miami vs OKC finals)? OKC gets their face kicked in because they've used the refs as a clutch for so long and they're not prepared to legitimately beat a real, authentically good team like Miami.

Kidd K
04-19-2014, 11:22 PM
Six straight possessions to the free throw line. Three fouls in two minutes on Randolph. This game was horrendous.

The refs would not let the Spurs beat OKC.

That reminds me of 2012.

Budkin
04-19-2014, 11:22 PM
If I'm defending KD, and I know I'm getting whistled even on minor contact, then why not lay his ass out? Hard foul Durant like Bill Laimbeer would...make him earn those free throws with blood and bruises.

Because you would be putting the league's product at risk. You would pay dearly.

jARS mEsH sEt
04-19-2014, 11:23 PM
Six straight possessions to the free throw line. Three fouls in two minutes on Randolph. This game was horrendous.

The refs would not let the Spurs beat OKC.

Something I actually agree on with No life shmuck for once :lmao

jARS mEsH sEt
04-19-2014, 11:23 PM
I will root for Miami so hard when this bull shit, fraud of an OKC team inevitably makes it to the finals.

TampaDude
04-19-2014, 11:25 PM
Because you would be putting the league's product at risk. You would pay dearly.

What if I didn't give a fuck?

jARS mEsH sEt
04-19-2014, 11:26 PM
What if I didn't give a fuck?

:rollin

jARS mEsH sEt
04-19-2014, 11:27 PM
The only thing I don't like about that idea is that it would be legitimizing OKC's play. If you actually start fouling them hard just because you expect them to get bull shit foul calls, people wouldn't be able to call OKC fraudulent anymore. I prefer it when their fraud is on full display for everyone to see.

thispego
04-19-2014, 11:27 PM
Telling you guys, NBA will see to it their favorite western conference team gets to the finals. Only thing spurs can do is play flawlessly, it's gonna be 5 on 8. Even then refs have all the control and if they have to blatantly swing the momentum, they will.

Budkin
04-19-2014, 11:28 PM
What if I didn't give a fuck?

You would make Spurs fans very happy :lol

jARS mEsH sEt
04-19-2014, 11:29 PM
Telling you guys, NBA will see to it their favorite western conference team gets to the finals. Only thing spurs can do is play flawlessly, it's gonna be 5 on 8. Even then refs have all the control and if they have to blatantly swing the momentum, they will.

Pretty much. We're not winning unless Danny Green goes for another finals 3 point record. You can always technically beat fraud with impeccable shooting, but the probability of that is so low that it's not worth relying on.

TampaDude
04-19-2014, 11:29 PM
I will root for Miami so hard when this bull shit, fraud of an OKC team inevitably makes it to the finals.

Any team not named the Spurs will get their shit pushed in by Miami in the Finals.

Budkin
04-19-2014, 11:30 PM
Telling you guys, NBA will see to it their favorite western conference team gets to the finals. Only thing spurs can do is play flawlessly, it's gonna be 5 on 8. Even then refs have all the control and if they have to blatantly swing the momentum, they will.

We all knew this was going to be the case which is why we had to have HCA to even have a chance in hell.

jARS mEsH sEt
04-19-2014, 11:32 PM
We all knew this was going to be the case which is why we had to have HCA to even have a chance in hell.

HCA against OKC means the final box score will look something like

In SA:
OKC: 27-31 free throws
Spurs: 22-24 free throws

In OKC
OKC: 31-35 free throws
Spurs: 16-22 free throws

rogues
04-19-2014, 11:39 PM
:cry..

SpurPadre
04-19-2014, 11:39 PM
Tonight's game was by far the most poorly officiated game of the day that was one-sided in its bullshit calls that of course benefits OKC. If Phil Jackson ever coached a team against them, he would've called out the refs' bias to the point where things would change the following game. He was an expert at those mind games. It's not a classy thing to do and that's why pops doesn't do that shit but it has to be done against okc.

TE
04-19-2014, 11:42 PM
It is what it is. I've long come to accept the type of calls OKC gets tbh. No sense in complaining. We aren't on the court, we can't do anything about it.

Spurs21Fan4Ever
04-20-2014, 12:09 AM
It's not like OKC is a big market, this has been going on for years. We clearly remember game 6 of 2012 WCF, the Thunder are so hard to beat and that's simply because they get a reffing advantage unlike any other team I've seen before except LA in the 2002 WCF against Sacramento. I watched the second half, Memphis played so well to cut the lead to two, but it's seriously as if the refs have an agenda to ensure that OKC wins. Absolutely disgusting. I really try to respect Durant, simply because how gifted and skilled he is on the offensive side of the ball, but it's impossible for me. He's not tough, and whenever somebody plays tough defense on him like Kawhi does, he goes and cries and the refs make sure their baby boy Durant gets it easy by putting Kawhi or any other tough defender in foul trouble. I would bet anyone that his mom gives death threats to the refs before each game.

peacemaker885
04-20-2014, 12:21 AM
Bottom line is, we have to make our shots.

jARS mEsH sEt
04-20-2014, 12:26 AM
It's not like OKC is a big market, this has been going on for years. We clearly remember game 6 of 2012 WCF, the Thunder are so hard to beat and that's simply because they get a reffing advantage unlike any other team I've seen before except LA in the 2002 WCF against Sacramento. I watched the second half, Memphis played so well to cut the lead to two, but it's seriously as if the refs have an agenda to ensure that OKC wins. Absolutely disgusting. I really try to respect Durant, simply because how gifted and skilled he is on the offensive side of the ball, but it's impossible for me. He's not tough, and whenever somebody plays tough defense on him like Kawhi does, he goes and cries and the refs make sure their baby boy Durant gets it easy by putting Kawhi or any other tough defender in foul trouble. I would bet anyone that his mom gives death threats to the refs before each game.

Durant single-handedly makes OKC a big market. OKC's local television market isn't big, but Durant has worldwide appeal. OKC/Miami consistently has the highest TV ratings of any pair in the league.

heyheymymy
04-20-2014, 12:44 AM
classic okc tbh

Budkin
04-20-2014, 12:49 AM
Can't wait for that shithole to sink into obscurity once Durant bolts. They would never have even had a franchise had the swindler Clay Bennett not gotten his corrupt hands on the Sonics.

testies
04-20-2014, 01:03 AM
OKC is big market.. I'd bet they are the most popular team right now. I live in a country where basketball is 5th sport in popularity, yet I see a shtload of Thunder jerseys

I mean, it makes sense for NBA. Durant would be the most marketable champ in recent history, much more entertaining basketball player than LeBron for instance, he is beautiful to watch. But the team is badly coached and has disgraceful help from refs. Today was a robbery, no other word. I was fuming ..

Axegrinder
04-20-2014, 01:10 AM
sorry but OKC is in no way a big market..Thats for large cities with large media centers..LA, NYC, Chi....

Johnsyounger
04-20-2014, 01:24 AM
Prime lakers never got anywhere near the bullshit free throw advantage that OKC gets. I honestly can't think of a more fraudulent team than OKC in the past 30 years.
Did you see the 2002 series vs the Kings? Apparently not....

jARS mEsH sEt
04-20-2014, 01:31 AM
Did you see the 2002 series vs the Kings? Apparently not....

And apparently you didn't watch game 6 of the 2012 WCF.

Johnsyounger
04-20-2014, 01:35 AM
02 was way worse. The NBA is rigged. Always has been, always will be. The Spurs were never supposed to win. One ping pong ball off and and we have 0 championships. I get it, Spurs have to beat the teams, but we gotta beat the refs too...

Gummi Clutch
04-20-2014, 02:27 AM
fuck OKC. Memphis is just retarded offensively. Spurs would have handled that ass tonight.

Venti Quattro
04-20-2014, 05:11 AM
Fouls: MEM 24, OKC 25
FTs: MEM 18-31, OKC 28-32

Yeah OKC are cheaters because they made their freethrows :lmao :lmao :lmao

PingPong
04-20-2014, 06:55 AM
Where is the World Peace to give'm real fouls?

:lol

rascal
04-20-2014, 07:19 AM
I'm sure some moron OKC fan will read that post and think it's just sour grapes, but then why don't I complain about any other team? It is literally just OKC.

To answer your question. Because OK City beat the Spurs in the playoffs and they are the Spurs biggest challenge in the west.

boutons_deux
04-20-2014, 07:26 AM
MEM: 18-31 on OKC's 24 PF

OKC: 28-32 on MEM's 25 PF

MEM -10 FT points, lose by 14

OKC: +1 FTA and -1 PF, not a good game to support the claim that the fix is in for the NBA/refs to grease OKC into WCF (not that I doubt the claim)

So you guys are saying MEM should have had 40+ FTA or that OKC should have had much less than 32 FTA? or both? :lol

MEM ain't gonna compete shooting 36% FG. OKC's 44% FG isn't unbeatable.

MEM season avg 96 PPG, came up 10 short last night, and AVG 46% FG, came up 10% short last night.

OKC will win, but probably in 6 games.

Venti Quattro
04-20-2014, 07:38 AM
casual nba fan trying to gauge reffing advantage by the box score

crofl

I watched the game numbnuts

Pound the rock
04-20-2014, 08:39 AM
Not siding with okc but from previous games against the Spurs, the griz are dirty,grabby, poking and all kinds of illegal stuff

wildchild
04-20-2014, 08:56 AM
fuck OKC. Memphis is just retarded offensively. Spurs would have handled that ass tonight.


MEM ain't gonna compete shooting 36% FG. OKC's 44% FG isn't unbeatable.

MEM season avg 96 PPG, came up 10 short last night, and AVG 46% FG, came up 10% short last night.

OKC will win, but probably in 6 games.







Memphis had a shot in the 3rd quarter, Gasol definitely gets the better of the matchup vs Perkins/Collinson/Adams.
Maybe that was the reason why OKC had to go small in the 4th quarter with Ibaka -more mobile and versatile than his bigmen teammates- at C to optimize their speed and athleticism.
Gasol played 45 minutes -ZBo 39 minutes- and looked exhausted when the Thunder took the +10 lead again in the 4th quarter.

Gagnrath
04-20-2014, 08:59 AM
Free throw and personal foul numbers parity at the end of the game don't always equal a fairly called contest. Because each player on each team has a foul limit and after the first few minutes of a game the players are pretty aware of what will be allowed in a given game for them a team that is getting whistled for straight up body to body contact will start playing off their man. So now that the guy is no longer playing tight defense the other team scores more easily. One team getting called for tight defense and the other not can be a huge advantage. There are also fun whistles like 3 seconds that kill momentum and give the other team the ball.

:-) now for fun, wse can take a look at how having a team made up of super athletes can help avoid fouls on defense and get more whistles in your favor on offense but that's a different story.

Venti Quattro
04-20-2014, 09:05 AM
Yeah let's ignore all the calls that Memphis got in the first half and all their freethrow misses. Let's just selectively discuss the "Reflahoma" of the second half.

Russ
04-20-2014, 09:53 AM
The Spurs need to adjust if and when they play OKC. Complaining about the refs gets you nowhere.

They need to find a way to move the ball crosscourt from strongside to weakside quickly without getting it picked.

That's the Spurs' huge advantage and OKC takes it away. And they do it legally.

So Pop, what's next?

(Pop would probably smirk and say "Dallas.")

Venti Quattro
04-20-2014, 10:02 AM
Complaining about the refs gets you nowhere.

FINALLY SOMEONE WHO UNDERSTANDS

Spursfan092120
04-20-2014, 10:14 AM
Damn...yeah....Thunder usually get a lot of calls. Y'all sitting here bitching about it isn't going to change anything. Just.....play.....the game.

Horse
04-20-2014, 10:27 AM
Fouls: MEM 24, OKC 25
FTs: MEM 18-31, OKC 28-32

Yeah OKC are cheaters because they made their freethrows :lmao :lmao :lmao

It's more the noncalls that get you against okc cause they lead to dunks and the crowd gets going and all that meth bullshit.

Horse
04-20-2014, 10:30 AM
FINALLY SOMEONE WHO UNDERSTANDS
It worked like a charm for phil.

Venti Quattro
04-20-2014, 10:46 AM
It's more the noncalls that get you against okc cause they lead to dunks and the crowd gets going and all that meth bullshit.

Are you even sure that all the non-calls just went OKC's way? What about the non-calls for Memphis? See, you're treading on the theoretical and what-if's here. That's not how this world works.


It worked like a charm for phil.

Yes, because he understood what it took to win and did not continually whine like a faggot. He got himself fined for complaining publicly but those were calculated moves to work the referees.

TheGoldStandard
04-20-2014, 10:52 AM
Pop will never blame officiating regardless if he has a tantrum during the game after questionable calls or non calls. Spurs will have to play flawless if they meet OKC in the playoffs.

Spur|n|Austin
04-20-2014, 11:01 AM
Prime lakers never got anywhere near the bullshit free throw advantage that OKC gets. I honestly can't think of a more fraudulent team than OKC in the past 30 years.


:lol what?! Maybe you're forgetting the worst officiated series in the history of the NBA?

td4mvp21
04-20-2014, 11:09 AM
What? The officiating wasn't bad. Memphis was, though.

Venti Quattro
04-20-2014, 11:13 AM
:lol what?! Maybe you're forgetting the worst officiated series in the history of the NBA?

2007 WCSF?

Kidd K
04-20-2014, 11:14 AM
And apparently you didn't watch game 6 of the 2012 WCF.

Tbh game 6 wasn't the only poorly reffed game either. 4-6 were all reffed like dogshit. Even game 2 was too but Spurs overcame it.

superjames1992
04-20-2014, 11:24 AM
:lol Spurfan crying the league is rigged when the Spurs have won four titles since 1999.

UZER
04-20-2014, 11:28 AM
Are you even sure that all the non-calls just went OKC's way? What about the non-calls for Memphis? See, you're treading on the theoretical and what-if's here. That's not how this world works.



Yes, because he understood what it took to win and did not continually whine like a faggot. He got himself fined for complaining publicly but those were calculated moves to work the referees.

:lol ok, if you say so.

has he finally stopped complaining to the media about not getting a fair shake against Detroit, or brickowskis goon tactics when he had a guy named Rodman on his team? Dude was a bitch, admit it.

LoneStarState'sPride
04-20-2014, 11:29 AM
Tbh game 6 wasn't the only poorly reffed game either. 4-6 were all reffed like dogshit. Even game 2 was too but Spurs overcame it.

This, tbh.

Kidd K
04-20-2014, 11:35 AM
:lol Spurfan crying the league is rigged when the Spurs have won four titles since 1999.

A + B doesn't = C

lil'mo
04-20-2014, 11:46 AM
Damn...yeah....Thunder usually get a lot of calls. Y'all sitting here bitching about it isn't going to change anything. Just.....play.....the game.

lol.......what.......a faggot

jARS mEsH sEt
04-20-2014, 11:57 AM
2007 WCSF?

2007 WCSF was absolutely horrendous in favor of the spurs and on par with 2002 lakers/kings. The ref advantage for the spurs and lakers has always been sporadic, though. 2002 lakers/kings. 2007 spurs/phoenix (and possibly any other game that donaghy was reffing). 2010 lakers/celtics game 7. 2012 Lakers/OKC game 3 (in favor of Lakers which was hilarious, although I doubt OKC fans remember or even care as they won the series 4-1 anyway).

Hoops Czar
04-20-2014, 11:59 AM
Memphis 25 fouls, OKC 24

Memphis 18-31 FT
OKC 28-32 FT

Talk about your typical Spurstalk bullshit thread. The excuse have started and the Spurs haven't even played a game.

Spursfan092120
04-20-2014, 12:09 PM
lol.......what.......a faggot
lol...you have a troll identity on an internet forum....need I say more?

jARS mEsH sEt
04-20-2014, 12:10 PM
Memphis 25 fouls, OKC 24

Memphis 18-31 FT
OKC 28-32 FT

Talk about your typical Spurstalk bullshit thread. The excuse have started and the Spurs haven't even played a game.

Nobody cares about the opinion of someone who didn't actually watch the game.

jARS mEsH sEt
04-20-2014, 12:11 PM
This "I'm too classy and cool to complain about the refs! Hopefully fans of other teams see how cool, classy, and unbiased I am!" schtick is hilarious :lmao

Uriel
04-20-2014, 12:19 PM
What the hell is Jose Calderon doing. :lol

Hoops Czar
04-20-2014, 12:27 PM
Nobody cares about the opinion of someone who didn't actually watch the game.

Nobody gives a shit about your rebuttal and I don't give a shit about your approval. If those numbers hurt your eyes, go sit in the dark.

Learn to know what a shtick is before haphazardly posting with your feet instead of your brain. Not using the ref card isn't a shtick. You only sound like a babbling brooke blaming the refs in a game that was officiated fairly for both sides. The difference was made at the line.