Spurs Select Kyle Anderson in the 2014 NBA Draft (30th Overall)

[dirkdirkastan]

That's pretty obvious by now.Hey, you're embarrassed to say -- just like you are embarrassed to try this shtick under your Hoops Czar name.

It's your embarrassment, not mine.

Why are you trying so hard but failing so miserably? Is that your shtick? Have I seen your entire repertoire? Were you dropped as a baby or does stupid run in the family?

[Shabazz]

Diaw 2.0?


He isn't a PF/C. Anderson is a point guard in a small forwards body.

Think a poor man's Jalen Rose.

[ChumpDumper]

Why are you trying so hard but failing so miserably? Is that your shtick? Have I seen your entire repertoire? Were you dropped as a baby or does stupid run in the family?This is what I've been asking you this whole time, Hoops Czar.

You refuse to answer.

[Shabazz]

Putting in work against Duke. 15 pts, 10 rbs, 7 asts.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EoxHiXIqfQ


Mercer is impressed

[ChumpDumper]

He isn't a PF/C. Anderson is a point guard in a small forwards body.

Think a poor man's Jalen Rose.I think he will end up playing more PF in his career if he sticks. All he needs is about ten more pounds and he's fine for a bench PF. Much easier then trying to get more athletic.

[BatManu20]

http://www.insidesocal.com/ucla/2014/06/26/audio-kyle-anderson-speaks-to-media-after-spurs-draft-him-30th-overall/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+DnSportsBlogs--AllDnSports+%28WordPress+blogs+--+all+DN+sports%29

AUDIO: Kyle Anderson speaks to media after Spurs draft him 30th overall

:tu

[dirkdirkastan]

This is what I've been asking you this whole time, Hoops Czar.

You refuse to answer.

Can your posts get anymore original or is this imitation by design ( I wasn't smart enough to come up with that on my own, thanks for throwing me a bone)?

[ChumpDumper]

Can your posts get anymore original or is this imitation by design ( I wasn't smart enough to come up with that on my own, thanks for throwing me a bone)?You just stated your shtick for this screen name was imitating mine, Hoops Czar.

Except you only post about me. Is that what I am supposed to remember about this screen name, tsarina?

[dirkdirkastan]

I think he will end up playing more PF in his career if he sticks. All he needs is about ten more pounds and he's fine for a bench PF. Much easier then trying to get more athletic.

I'm giving you half credit for this post because you made a genuine attempt. However, you made the assumption the Spurs were taking the easy way out by selecting Anderson. There were athletic SF's on the board at #30.

[dirkdirkastan]

You just stated your shtick for this screen name was imitating mine, Hoops Czar.

Except you only post about me. Is that what I am supposed to remember about this screen name, tsarina?

So, now I'm tsarina. So you admit that this is your shtick and that you don't talk basketball. The first step toward change is awareness. You might be on the road to recovery (or not).

[xtremesteven33]

I can see Pop having a lot of fun using Anderson in many different roles and positions. Hes so versatile he can play almost all 5 positions. The fact that he is slow and heavy makes me think Pop will use him more as a PF and maybe even sometimes a C. This is gonna be fun.

[DAF86]

6'9'' guy that shoots 48% from 3's? I'm loving him already.

[DAF86]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BrG_eLhCAAAk-dN.jpg:large

All the other GM's: "So, that's the guy we should have picked"

[Nathan89]

His game reminds me of Grievis Vasques with a bigger body.

[slick'81]

Obviously spurs could use a sf/pf with range and that can pass. soo far he seems like a perfect fit

[100%duncan]

http://www.insidesocal.com/ucla/2014/06/26/audio-kyle-anderson-speaks-to-media-after-spurs-draft-him-30th-overall/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+DnSportsBlogs--AllDnSports+%28WordPress+blogs+--+all+DN+sports%29

AUDIO: Kyle Anderson speaks to media after Spurs draft him 30th overall

He also speaks like TD. :lol

[Richie]

He'll need to add weight to playvin the NBA. If he can get to Diaws size he can be Boris 2.0. Otherwise I don't see him being able to play.

Not a huge fan of the pick. I'll give it a C+

[DAF86]

Just teach him to not be flat footed and give effort on defense and he could be of use. On offense he could be Diaw-esque (big SF/stretch PF that can knock down the three or create with craftiness on catch and drive situations).

[100%duncan]

He'll need to add weight to playvin the NBA. If he can get to Diaws size he can be Boris 2.0. Otherwise I don't see him being able to play.

Not a huge fan of the pick. I'll give it a C+

Who would you have taken then?

[100%duncan]

Just teach him to not be flat footed and give effort on defense and he could be of use. On offense he could be Diaw-esque (big SF/stretch PF that can knock down the three or create with craftiness on catch and drive situations).
You think he's ready to be the 13th-15th man? I can't see Daye/errors coming back.

[DAF86]

You think he's ready to be the 13th-15th man? I can't see Daye/errors coming back.

I don't have a fucking clue but why not? It's not like having him as a 13th man would make much of a difference. Besides, he can't be worst than Paragraph or however Errors was called before.

[Hoops Czar]

I'm so disappointed. You were here being the piece of shit cock sucker you are before we ringed. Then you disappeared so I was hoping you killed yourself.

Now you're back. The world hates you. God hates you. Go with the whole kill yourself thing.

You being dead will make the world a better place

A simple little post about wanting someone else and you go off on a tangent. It's one thing to get trolled by a troll with 118 posts but it's quite another to get trolled by a member of Bonner's family. Rest assured, odds are you won't be seeing much more of me because most Bonner trolls will be non existent in a couple of weeks barring the unthinkable. It will be nice to rid the air of your flatulence as well as our mind blowing ignorance. I don't wish death upon you because I have my limits. However, good riddance to some bad rubbish.

[Hoops Czar]

It's Hoops Czar, tbh..


Boy, you're one dumb fuck.

[Hoops Czar]

No, not a "Bonner troll"

Just hate pieces of shit like you stealing oxygen from useful people.

Seriously, kill yourself. The world will be a better place without you in it

Hey useless. Nobody in their right mind would purposely use bonner in their user name. You ARE a bonner troll so deal with it. Does your mom know your up this late?

[FireMicoHalili]

Love the move. Gives at least three positives:
1. A possible back-up wing
2. Lowers what Spurs pay Diaw because word around is he plays like Diaw
3. Lowers what Spurs have to pay Mills bec he can play point; softens blow if Mills leaves

as for Tavares I haven't actually seen a 2nd rounder taller than 7'0" who panned out in the league, e.g. Pavel Podkolzine, Peter John Ramos, Martynas Andriuskevicius. Best 2nd rounder at 7'0" iirc is DeAndre Jordan.

as for Early, guy seems too old. Inglis seems raw. Patric Young and Khem Birch weren't even taken.

bummed out the Spurs didn't take a big man to stash though. Artem Klimenko and Cristiano Felicio were still on the board, as well as Milutinov(?). I also wanted Bairstow as a Baynes replacement but whatever, the chips have fallen into place.

[FireMicoHalili]

Undrafted:

Jahii Carson
Melvin Ejim
Patric Young
Artem Klimenko
James McAdoo
Deonte Burton
CJ Fair
Aaron Craft
LaQuinton Ross
Khem Birch
Billy Baron
Bryce Cotton
Cristiano Felicio
Ioannis Papapetrou
Max Kleber
Cam Clark
Sim Bhullar
Jordan Bachynski

[kobyz]

i think our primary target was Bruno Caboclo and the Raptors stole him for us... Kyle Anderson is a high risk high reward pick and although he is a mature player because he is such a unique player it seems he still need a year or two to adjust to do NBA game... i still prefer we have picked Early, seems he is more ready and better fit to contribute right away, he took by himself a mid major school almost to win an NCAA title!

[kobyz]

Undrafted guys:
Jahii Carson
Melvin Ejim
Patric Young
Artem Klimenko
James McAdoo
Deonte Burton
CJ Fair
Aaron Craft,
LaQuinton Ross
Khem Birch
Billy Baron
Bryce Cotton
Cristiano Felicio
Ioannis Papapetrou
Max Kleber
Cam Clark
Sim Bhullar
Jordan Bachynski

i want Spurs to sign Sim Bhullar to Summer league and test him...

[FireMicoHalili]

cuntribute

[TheCerebral1]

Personally give me Patric Young, and call that the draft. I was okay with Anderson and the draft and stash in the second round. I won't doubt Buford and Pops. I don't love Anderson, but he does have some good passing ability.

[objective]

Initial impressions:

The more I watch the less I like, unfortunately. A few days ago I wrote the reason I liked McDaniels was that he had the necessary athleticism to be in the NBA, and could be coached up from his flaws. I didn't want someone who had physical flaws like cement shoes. Stuff like that is just ... Hard to overcome.

Athleticism matters. It's nice and wonderful to dream that all a player needs is skill, but this is the best league in the world. If skills could overcome all, Jared Jordan would have gone from second rounder to a long NBA career. And he's not the only one.

I get a bad feeling watching his tape, even his good footage I have a hard time picturing succeeding. He looks like a good candidate for a decent career in Europe.

And I don't see the comparisons to Diaw or Horry. Those guys weren't slow. At all. Hell, Horry on the rockets was a great athlete. They only sometimes played slow because of laziness or conditioning or laizez faire or whatever. But they were still nimble, still agile. Still capable of making great athletic plays on defense. And offense. Horry delivering that slam near the end of game 5 in 05 was an incredible athletic play.

Maybe he can get in better shape, but he even shoots glacially.

I hope my impressions are wrong. They are brief impressions after all. I do see his passing skill and vision, I see his length, I see his rebounding. I'm not being irrational. I was in the moment when Hill was drafted, but once I researched him and what he did, I was convinced he had the tools to succeed and made a thread about it with video links.

Here's to hoping that he has a long, successful career.

[TampaDude]

Long
High BB IQ
Excellent passer
Good defensive rebounder
Shoots the 3 well

Solid pick, especially at #30.

Welcome aboard, Kyle!

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

I thought I'd heard he was coming. Jean-Charles isn't surprising, but Bertans definitely is.

There was a possibility. I believe his contract buyout is low enough this year the Spurs could bring him over. I guess they are weighing their options at this point. If Bertans isn't coming over, it probably means the Spurs are keeping Daye and see what they got after developing him for another year.

[CosmicCowboy]

If the kid has a good work ethic Spurs will mold him into a serviceable piece. I suspect they will get him in the gym immediately with Chip and start working on his shot (not being able to shoot off the bounce is a real liability in the Spurs system) and will get him on a workout regimen to get him in better shape. Send him home for the summer and see if he has what it takes to follow through.

[99 Problems]

Watched video interview with RC on Spurs web. I'm very happy with the pick after listening. :toast

[benefactor]

:lol SA fans monkeyballer obsession continues
:cry he can't run and jump he sucks

[will_spurs]

And I don't see the comparisons to Diaw or Horry. Those guys weren't slow. At all. Hell, Horry on the rockets was a great athlete. They only sometimes played slow because of laziness or conditioning or laizez faire or whatever. But they were still nimble, still agile. Still capable of making great athletic plays on defense. And offense. Horry delivering that slam near the end of game 5 in 05 was an incredible athletic play.

I'm not sure being slow is such a big issue on offense, especially in the Spurs system. And defensively he has active hands (and a long wingspan).

On quite a few passes I had the impression to see Diaw, especially reach-around type of passes.

The issue is more on defense. There's no way he can defend any NBA wing given how slowly he moves his feet. And he doesn't have the size and bulk to defend bigs. This is going to be complicated.


Maybe he can get in better shape, but he even shoots glacially.

48% isn't too glacial. And he has good arc and a high release point, so that's that.

All in all I'm not worried about anything except his ability to defend at the NBA level. That's no big deal on most of the teams, but it's critical to the Spurs...

[baseline bum]

Undrafted guys:
Jahii Carson
Melvin Ejim
Patric Young
Artem Klimenko
James McAdoo
Deonte Burton
CJ Fair
Aaron Craft,
LaQuinton Ross
Khem Birch
Billy Baron
Bryce Cotton
Cristiano Felicio
Ioannis Papapetrou
Max Kleber
Cam Clark
Sim Bhullar
Jordan Bachynski

I remember McAdoo being projected as a top 5 pick a couple years ago. :lol

Birch was supposed to be late lottery also.

[baseline bum]

Initial impressions:

The more I watch the less I like, unfortunately. A few days ago I wrote the reason I liked McDaniels was that he had the necessary athleticism to be in the NBA, and could be coached up from his flaws. I didn't want someone who had physical flaws like cement shoes. Stuff like that is just ... Hard to overcome.

Athleticism matters. It's nice and wonderful to dream that all a player needs is skill, but this is the best league in the world. If skills could overcome all, Jared Jordan would have gone from second rounder to a long NBA career. And he's not the only one.

I get a bad feeling watching his tape, even his good footage I have a hard time picturing succeeding. He looks like a good candidate for a decent career in Europe.

And I don't see the comparisons to Diaw or Horry. Those guys weren't slow. At all. Hell, Horry on the rockets was a great athlete. They only sometimes played slow because of laziness or conditioning or laizez faire or whatever. But they were still nimble, still agile. Still capable of making great athletic plays on defense. And offense. Horry delivering that slam near the end of game 5 in 05 was an incredible athletic play.

Maybe he can get in better shape, but he even shoots glacially.

I hope my impressions are wrong. They are brief impressions after all. I do see his passing skill and vision, I see his length, I see his rebounding. I'm not being irrational. I was in the moment when Hill was drafted, but once I researched him and what he did, I was convinced he had the tools to succeed and made a thread about it with video links.

Here's to hoping that he has a long, successful career.

Yeah, I watched tons of Kyle Anderson being I'm a Bruin fan, and I always wondered how the hell he'd ever make the NBA with his complete lack of athleticism. But I have a hard time seeing him not make it if RC is excited enough to draft him in the first and guarantee a 2 year deal. I mean there is no GM in the history of the league with RC's track record in the draft.

[Spursfanfromafar]

I think many of the folks here are getting the wrong comparisons of Kyle Anderson. Anderson has Boris Diaw like, passing skills for a big. He also has high IQ like Robert Horry for a big. But primarily he has always played as a PG who defends on the wing completely unlike Diaw or Horry (atleast in the NBA).

In that sense, Anderson is much closer to someone like Greivis Vasquez or Shaun Livingston. Except he seems to have better talent than these two and can play PF if he develops skills over time to defend the post, something he has never had the opportunity to, in his limited career as a student-athlete.

Point is, he was the best talent available at 30, intriguing and all, and the Spurs did the right thing. His style of play, based on high IQ, passing, angles, combining with other players, is precisely what fits the Spurs. He has deficiencies (so did Patty Mills) and the Spurs are best at maximising potential based both on their on-court system (motion offense based on passing and IQ) and their off-court system (high emphasis on culture, player development and in house coaching).

There's hardly anything to complain. The Spurs' staff have their work cut out, as they always have, in trying to develop Anderson to maximise his potential and fit a role in a contending team. They did it to a T with Kawhi Leonard. They have done it with Patty Mills and Marco Belinelli (to an extent). Even Tiago Splitter has refined his game with the Spurs despite many prior flaws. What is not to expect from a talent like Anderson?

[baseline bum]

Not impressed... :lol he does look like he's moving in slow motion. No elevation on the jumper and very late release. His offensive game will not translate well to the NBA. But Leonard had a terrible jumper too... maybe Chip can work another miracle. I see him more as a defensive player that can make those spot up 3's. Might eventually develop into a backup for Leonard.

:lol

He is 2002 Steve Smith on D. His value is almost all in his passing.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

All in all I'm not worried about anything except his ability to defend at the NBA level. That's no big deal on most of the teams, but it's critical to the Spurs...

That is probably the only flag at this point. But really, besides Blair and Neal, there really hasn't been a player that didn't improve his overall defense since joining the Spurs.

This kid reminds me of Hedo more than anything (probably a better passer). Hedo was slow as well but he used his body effectively to shield defenders from the ball. Hedo used his length to get by defenders as well despite not having speed.

Hedo was a horrible defender in SAC, but after a year with the Spurs, he actually became a decent defender.

I don't think Anderson will ever be even a good defender. I think his limit is just a decent defender like Hedo. But if he can match the Magic's Hedo offensive game (which seems very plausible), he will be a steal.

[Darkwaters]

There was a possibility. I believe his contract buyout is low enough this year the Spurs could bring him over. I guess they are weighing their options at this point. If Bertans isn't coming over, it probably means the Spurs are keeping Daye and see what they got after developing him for another year.

I was actually talking just about Summer League. Obviously him signing an actual contract and joining the 15 is up in the air at the moment.

[Darkwaters]

They are both coming off of season-ending blown ACLs. Having missed a lot of development and not having played much in the last year, extremely little since returning from surgery. I guess they could get bought out, but not surprising if they don't come given the injury history.

...talking about Summer League.

[Dex]

Diaw is crazy athletic.


http://deadspin.com/heres-a-funny-anecdote-about-a-young-absurdly-athletic-1591135909

For the non-believers.

Diaw is such a pimp.

[ceperez]

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2111427-why-kyle-anderson-was-the-perfect-draft-pick-for-san-antonio-spurs-at-no-30#articles/2111427-why-kyle-anderson-was-the-perfect-draft-pick-for-san-antonio-spurs-at-no-30

[tholdren]

:lol SA fans monkeyballer obsession continues
:cry he can't run and jump he sucks
I dont think that's the take at all... To me, monkeyballer is Westbrook, Oladipo{sp)... guys who just run around out of control. I havent seen anyone here post that they want an athletic player to run out of control. From my standpoint, we are going to need someone athletic or crafty to beat the Thunder, Portland, in the next few years. What happens when we get a court full of tiago's and bonners who are worthless against the athletic teams? We just paid 10 million for Tiago to be nothing more than a stop-gap during games.

We took #30 and got a good passer. ok, kid fits the bill character wise. HOWEVER, he's not athletic enough to back someone into the post and get an easy 2 like boris. I dont see him dribbling into the lane and making passes like he did in college because players are bigger, longer, faster, than what he was/is used to. Again, I hope Im wrong and he turns out better than Kawhi, that would be fabulous, because he seems like a good, honest, articulate young man.

I think we give a lot of credit to diaw for being crafty, but there are times when we are stalling and he does some ugly stuff under the basket that is not crafty, is not pretty, and is forgotten about that gives us 2 points. I dont see this kid doing that.

[ceperez]

I dont think that's the take at all... To me, monkeyballer is Westbrook, Oladipo{sp)... guys who just run around out of control. I havent seen anyone here post that they want an athletic player to run out of control. From my standpoint, we are going to need someone athletic or crafty to beat the Thunder, Portland, in the next few years. What happens when we get a court full of tiago's and bonners who are worthless against the athletic teams? We just paid 10 million for Tiago to be nothing more than a stop-gap during games.

We took #30 and got a good passer. ok, kid fits the bill character wise. HOWEVER, he's not athletic enough to back someone into the post and get an easy 2 like boris. I dont see him dribbling into the lane and making passes like he did in college because players are bigger, longer, faster, than what he was/is used to. Again, I hope Im wrong and he turns out better than Kawhi, that would be fabulous, because he seems like a good, honest, articulate young man.

I think we give a lot of credit to diaw for being crafty, but there are times when we are stalling and he does some ugly stuff under the basket that is not crafty, is not pretty, and is forgotten about that gives us 2 points. I dont see this kid doing that.

Read this: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2111427-why-kyle-anderson-was-the-perfect-draft-pick-for-san-antonio-spurs-at-no-30#articles/2111427-why-kyle-anderson-was-the-perfect-draft-pick-for-san-antonio-spurs-at-no-30


Gordon might be regarded as the best defender in the 2014 draft, but he had no answer for Bruin sophomore Kyle Anderson. The point guard/forward/whatever finished at the rim on his signature slow-motion drives. He hit three-pointers over hard closeouts. He snatched rebounds over more explosive athletes and picked out open shooters across the court with pinpoint passes. When it was over, Anderson had 21 points, 15 rebounds, five assists and a fistful of nylon from cutting down the nets.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

We just paid 10 million for Tiago to be nothing more than a stop-gap during games.rol.


So shutting down Dirk and Aldridge is just stop-gap duty. Tiago is top 3 one-on-one defender in the post and his D Eff numbers prove just that. He is just not effective against small ball teams when BOTH he and Duncan are on the court at the same time. But he does great when it just him, looking at his +/- against the Heat proves just that.

Please stop trying to sound intelligent b/c you are making Spurs fan look bad.

[bobcatfan4life]

So shutting down Dirk and Aldridge is just stop-gap duty. Tiago is top 3 one-on-one defender in the post and his D Eff numbers prove just that. He is just not effective against small ball teams when BOTH he and Duncan are on the court at the same time. But he does great when it just him, looking at his +/- against the Heat proves just that.

Please stop trying to sound intelligent b/c you are making Spurs fan look bad.

If it comes from tholdren it means nothing.

[PingPong]

http://i.imgur.com/hSAMPt3.png

[SpursDynasty21]

Will Anderson be on the team this season? I think he could be a valuable part of the team.

[Mel_13]

Will Anderson be on the team this season? I think he could be a valuable part of the team.

As a first round draft pick, his salary is guaranteed for the first two seasons. He'll be on the team. How much he plays is another question.

[Two10Whitey]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EoxHiXIqfQ

[SpursDynasty21]

As a first round draft pick, his salary is guaranteed for the first two seasons. He'll be on the team. How much he plays is another question.

Thanks. Hopefully, he gets playing time.

[NASpurs]

Kind of reminds me of a bigger Andre Miller.

[SpursDynasty21]

I hope the Spurs give him playing time.

[jjktkk]

Please stop trying to sound intelligent b/c you are making Spurs fan look bad.

:lol

[Mr. Body]

I was somewhat convinced the Spurs were going to try to get Evan Turner this offseason, as they tried near the trade deadline. Now with Kyle Anderson this won't happen.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

I was somewhat convinced the Spurs were going to try to get Evan Turner this offseason, as they tried near the trade deadline. Now with Kyle Anderson this won't happen.

And after seeing him destroy the Pacers' chemistry, I hardly think this happens.

[Mr. Body]

And after seeing him destroy the Pacers' chemistry, I hardly think this happens.

You give Turner far too much credit. Pacers were a basketcase with or without him, and well before he arrived.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

You give Turner far too much credit. Pacers were a basketcase with or without him, and well before he arrived.

But he just pushed them over the edge. Getting in a fight with your teammate during the playoffs is never a good sign.

[Richie]

Who would you have taken then?

I liked Inglis a lot as a draft and stash

[Drom John]

as for Tavares I haven't actually seen a 2nd rounder taller than 7'0" who panned out in the league, e.g. Pavel Podkolzine, Peter John Ramos, Martynas Andriuskevicius. Best 2nd rounder at 7'0" iirc is DeAndre Jordan.

For combined seasons; played in the NBA/BAA; in the regular season; from 1946-47 to 2013-14; from 7-1 to 7-7; sorted by descending Win Shares.

There's only 89 players 7'1"+ that have played in the NBA

By WS the best three not selected in the first round:

#13 James Donaldson 4th round (7th pick, 73rd overall), 1979 NBA Draft
#15 Marc Gasol 2nd round (18th pick, 48th overall), 2007 NBA Draft
#17 Mark Eaton 4th round (3rd pick, 72nd overall), 1982 NBA Draft

[kobyz]

Kyle Anderson = Greivis Vasquez meets Hedo Türkoğlu

[Capt Bringdown]

http://i.imgur.com/hSAMPt3.png
http://www.tradingcarddb.com/Images/Cards/Basketball/2420/2420-171Fr.jpg

[tholdren]

So shutting down Dirk and Aldridge is just stop-gap duty. Tiago is top 3 one-on-one defender in the post and his D Eff numbers prove just that. He is just not effective against small ball teams when BOTH he and Duncan are on the court at the same time. But he does great when it just him, looking at his +/- against the Heat proves just that.

Please stop trying to sound intelligent b/c you are making Spurs fan look bad.

you just used plus minus as some sort of evidence

[tholdren]

Read this: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2111427-why-kyle-anderson-was-the-perfect-draft-pick-for-san-antonio-spurs-at-no-30#articles/2111427-why-kyle-anderson-was-the-perfect-draft-pick-for-san-antonio-spurs-at-no-30


He led all prospects in our Top-100 rankings in assists at 7.4 per-40 minutes pace adjusted, the highest rate of any player that size in our database since Evan Turner, Luke Walton, and John Salmons.

Same article. Boy, I hope he turns out to be Luke Walton2.0

[CosmicCowboy]

The guys head is so big it looks like a bad photoshop.

http://i.imgur.com/hSAMPt3.png

[look_at_g_shred]

I see alot of Manu in his passing game.

[phxspurfan]

Dude's got a weird ass release on his jumper. Already needs work with Chip


And he's grandma slow. Like a 6'9" Andre Miller slow

[ChumpDumper]

Dude's got a weird ass release on his jumper. Already needs work with Chip


And he's grandma slow. Like a 6'9" Andre Miller slowMan, I would love to have a 6'9" Andre Miller on the team.

[TheGoldStandard]

Dude's got a weird ass release on his jumper. Already needs work with Chip


And he's grandma slow. Like a 6'9" Andre Miller slow

He has a high release but that's to compensate for the fact that he doesn't get off the ground much.

[Budkin]

After everything I've read since the pick I'm very happy with Kyle Anderson. I really do think we got quite a steal here.

[kobyz]

i see 1-11 FG in his first summer league game!

[T Park]

i see 1-11 FG in his first summer league game!

Then the meltdown would begin.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

i see 1-11 FG in his first summer league game!

If you saw anything in a positive light it would be ground breaking news.

[phxspurfan]

He has a high release but that's to compensate for the fact that he doesn't get off the ground much.

That too. It's worrisome that we drafted a thin, lanky, 20 year old 6'9" bball player who can't jump. Because you know he's going to get a. pushed around by NBA athletes, so he will need to gain weight, and b. he will get blocked by NBA athletes, so he also will be at an athletic disadvantage. It's like he is Boris Diaw but with less weight to throw around. SO we can't play him at the 4, or really at the 3 much either against most athletes, so we will have to play him at the 2, where he will need to have a lot of speed to defend other guards. I see that the only way to have a matchup advantage with him is to play him at the 1 or 2 positions, so he can use his size to post up (a la Andre Miller style). Otherwise, play him at the 3 through 5 and he will get out muscled by the big guys and out jumped by the strong, athletic guys.

[Budkin]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EoxHiXIqfQ

Great video. Really showcases what this kid can do.

[Kawhi]

Finally have a player Reggie Miller can beat off too

[SanDiegoSpursFan]

I like this pick a lot. He's pretty unique and it'll be interesting and fun to see how he plays with the Spurs.

[Budkin]

The Diaw comparisons are obvious. He moves just like him, even the way he dribbles is uncannily similar.

[r0drig0lac]

this kid looks like manu passing at times, watching the videos, great expectations, he seems to really be very smart on the court

[boutons_deux]

excellent court vision, smooth, deliberate athleticism, and, yes, great passing, long and short.

simply amazing that he fell to 30th.

With KL's current baseline, let's see if he, and the Spurs staff, can add to it.

Maybe Pop will stick around after Tim leaves. :)

[4down]

Looks like Bizarro Kawhi coming in... All the skills and none of the athleticism. .. hopefully the player development team can be even half as effective in developing the aspects he needs to improve upon. Tough ask but not impossible

[spurraider21]

i see 1-11 FG in his first summer league game!
:lol who's account is this, tbh?

[benefactor]

:lol who's account is this, tbh?
LJ

[xmas1997]

Yeah, he seems to be like Magic, Manu, Boris, and Ice, all rolled into one offensively.
Defense is another story however, they will have to hide him.

[loveforthegame]

http://newjersey.news12.com/news/new-jersey-star-picked-by-spurs-in-nba-draft-1.8591490#********=true

[BatManu20]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wyT-SCZE9E

[sexinthatsx]

After watching various youtube clips and DX report on Kyle Anderson, here are my takes:

-Like posters have said, the similarity to Diaw is uncanny, especially with his ability to post-up and find the open man cutting to the basket
-Drive and kicks to the corner 3s are solid too
-there's a couple of plays where you spot him cradling the ball when driving to the rim, similar to how Manu drives to the rim while cradling the ball with one hand
-even though he takes a long time to set up his shot and has a slow release, it's hard to block his shot because the ball arches well over and almost behind his head (similar to Stephen Jackson)
-His cross-overs remind me of Kevin Durant's crossovers, except 100 times slower lol. But it does look nice...
-his ball handling capabilities seem weak. While he's a great passer, he doesn't show a lot of beneath the leg dribbles to prevent the defender from swiping for the ball. Couple that with his slow dribbling can be a problem if he was matched up with very quick SFs


All in all, I believe he has the potential to get better and eventually become a solid bench player for an offensive run. Right now, the thing I'm most worried about is not about his speed, but his dribbling capabilities. Couple that with his slow drives, I can really see defenders picking him off the dribble every time. Really excited about what the Spurs can turn Kyle Anderson into though!

[LakerHater]

Dude is terrible on D!

Yeah I see a James Anderson in him!

[Trill Clinton]

matt bonner is terrible on D and is a one trick pony on offense and has managed to stick around...anderson will do great things in this system.

[elemento]

Dude is terrible on D!

Yeah I see a James Anderson in him!

Kyle and James Anderson are totally different players.

James Anderson is a shooter. He was one of the best shooters of the 2010 draft and played off the ball most of the time in college because of his lack of ball-handling skills. He scored most of his points in college coming off screens. Kyle plays with the ball most of the time, he has very good ball-handling skills for a guy of his size and has elite passing skills.

[LakerHater]

7'3" wingspan!

[ace3g]

SLOWMO @KyleAnderson5
(https://twitter.com/KyleAnderson5)Spoke to Coach Pop today, wow can't believe I am San Antonio Spur!! Lol

[DPG21920]

matt bonner is terrible on D and is a one trick pony on offense and has managed to stick around...anderson will do great things in this system.

Typical stereotype. Matt is not terrible on defense. In fact, he is much, much better than most give him credit for and more often than not plays positionally correct defense.

[FireMicoHalili]

For combined seasons; played in the NBA/BAA; in the regular season; from 1946-47 to 2013-14; from 7-1 to 7-7; sorted by descending Win Shares.

There's only 89 players 7'1"+ that have played in the NBA

By WS the best three not selected in the first round:

#13 James Donaldson 4th round (7th pick, 73rd overall), 1979 NBA Draft
#15 Marc Gasol 2nd round (18th pick, 48th overall), 2007 NBA Draft
#17 Mark Eaton 4th round (3rd pick, 72nd overall), 1982 NBA Draft
Thanks, I missed Gasol. Quite unfamiliar with players before the 90s. Looked up both Eaton and Donaldson and both looked burly. All examples I cited were wire thin and/or lanky. Anecdotal evidence, and it's largely hit/miss. Just glad teams see through the hype of Euro centers and whatever NBADraft dictates.

[FireMicoHalili]

Are we referring to ATL/PHX Boris or SAS Boris? Greiviz Vazquez seems more accurate. MCW seems like a reach. Have to settle for the fact the kid has intangibles on offense but looks suspect on defense, barring steals and blocks (physical tools). Speed and quickness are an issue.

[FireMicoHalili]

Need to take a harder look at his weaknesses in DX too. Read somewhere they tend to hide him on defense.

[emanueldavidginobili]

That is probably the only flag at this point. But really, besides Blair and Neal, there really hasn't been a player that didn't improve his overall defense since joining the Spurs.

This kid reminds me of Hedo more than anything (probably a better passer). Hedo was slow as well but he used his body effectively to shield defenders from the ball. Hedo used his length to get by defenders as well despite not having speed.

Hedo was a horrible defender in SAC, but after a year with the Spurs, he actually became a decent defender.

I don't think Anderson will ever be even a good defender. I think his limit is just a decent defender like Hedo. But if he can match the Magic's Hedo offensive game (which seems very plausible), he will be a steal.

Hedo is the best comparison I've heard thus far. Hedo was slow as shit but knew how to use his body and had a very high release point, Hedo proved you can succeed without crazy athleticism. The man averaged 20-5-5 one season. I like this pick, especially at 30

[spurraider21]

We just destroyed the fucking Heat with the least athletic team in the NBA. Chill the fuck out. Dude is a high IQ passer and is still relatively young. He can be molded into a very solid player imo. Maybe not an all star but the Spurs don't need him to be. Fucking people acting like we blew a lottery pick. It's the 30th fucking pick. Chill.
:lol it's interesting to see robdiaz talking down on cliff divers

[baseline bum]

I'd trade 2 of the Spurs 5 rings for Starks and Ewing to get theirs from '94...


What the fuck? Starks and Ewing were faggots.

[Richie]

Anderson will only be able to play PF in this league.

If he can add 15lbs of muscle this yeah he can be a rotation pf next year.

[tim_duncan_fan]

That too. It's worrisome that we drafted a thin, lanky, 20 year old 6'9" bball player who can't jump. Because you know he's going to get a. pushed around by NBA athletes, so he will need to gain weight, and b. he will get blocked by NBA athletes, so he also will be at an athletic disadvantage. It's like he is Boris Diaw but with less weight to throw around. SO we can't play him at the 4, or really at the 3 much either against most athletes, so we will have to play him at the 2, where he will need to have a lot of speed to defend other guards. I see that the only way to have a matchup advantage with him is to play him at the 1 or 2 positions, so he can use his size to post up (a la Andre Miller style). Otherwise, play him at the 3 through 5 and he will get out muscled by the big guys and out jumped by the strong, athletic guys.

He's a 20 year old Diaw that's slower and has a lower vertical than Diaw at 32.

[Genjuro]

I'm afraid this kid will only be able to play PF in the League. The biggest concern about him is by far his defense. I don't see how he can make up for his lack of lateral quickness to match up with wings, but he might be able to contain PFs adding some muscle and putting better effort. Offensively I guess he will stay primarly off the ball, drive only when there are open lanes due to team passing and subsequent unbalanced defenses, and shoot when he's fully open. His slow release is quite a concern, because particularly in playoffs, there's always a small window to launch a shot. That's one of the reasons why Belinelli wasn't as effective as Green or Mills in the post-season (the other being his defense, of course)

It's an interesting pick that deep into the draft, I love the fact the he's a pass-first guy who sees the floor that well, but realistically speaking, it's a bit of a long shot that he'll be able to contribute.

[megamanu]

Here's another vid of Kyle Anderson:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmEnxE2cZ48

[benefactor]

Say what you want about his limitations, but the feel for the game this kid displays can't be taught. He's likely never going to be a defensive juggernaut but he will be learning how to use his length effectively from a couple of the best perimeter defenders in the league.

But alas, ST will ignore all real basketball ability in favor of :monkey per par.

[ChumpDumper]

I do remember the Spurs' making passable defenders out of Hedo and Danny Ferry, so I'm not super worried at this point.

Sure there's risk in the pick, but what #30 pick is a sure thing?

[benefactor]

Learning to use his length effectively is the key. It will negate a lot of the lateral quickness issues. The good news is he has a guy on the team that just happens to be very, very good at that. More than anything, he will have to be a good team defender...as the Spurs depend on that more than they do individual defense. If his BBIQ is as good as advertised I see no reason why he can't be.

[admiralsnackbar]

He doesn't remind me so much of Boris as of a gentler version of Horry. Which is just fine.

[BatManu20]

He doesn't remind me so much of Boris as of a gentler version of Horry. Which is just fine.

What part of his game reminds you of Horry? He's a pass first point-forward with great vision and awareness. Horry was a knockdown shooter and good rebounder/solid defender in his younger days.

[kobyz]

Kyle need to work on post up game, there is where his potential if he want to be a plus Nba player, he most be primarily a post up player that take adventes of his size!

[admiralsnackbar]

What part of his game reminds you of Horry? He's a pass first point-forward with great vision and awareness. Horry was a knockdown shooter and good rebounder/solid defender in his younger days.

You're leaving out Horry's amazing passing abilities and basketball IQ. And he wasn't an amazing defender based on his athleticism, but on his intelligence. I say Anderson is gentler, because I don't see the killer instinct in his game that Horry has always had in his, but between Horry and Diaw, I see more Horry. Feel free to disagree, sir.

[hsxvvd]

Got excited when we drafted the Number 2 overall high school prospect from 2012... but then I read that Shabazz Muhammad was number 1, what happened to him?

[boutons_deux]

Got excited when we drafted the Number 2 overall high school prospect from 2012... but then I read that Shabazz Muhammad was number 1, what happened to him?

http://msn.foxsports.com/north/story/wolves-season-report-card-shabazz-muhammad-042914

[exstatic]

Got excited when we drafted the Number 2 overall high school prospect from 2012... but then I read that Shabazz Muhammad was number 1, what happened to him?

He went to Minnesota, so his career is pretty much dead. The Wolves: where lottery picks go to die.

[BatManu20]

Anderson will wear #1 for the Spurs

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Sound famiilar? Let's hope this one's career with the Spurs pans out a little better.

[ace3g]

Anderson will wear #1 for the Spurs

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Sound famiilar? Let's hope this one's career with the Spurs pans out a little better.

Yeah, like lets hope Juwan Howard doesn't side swipe Anderson mid air going for a dunk.

[DesignatedT]

Sound famiilar? Let's hope this one's career with the Spurs pans out a little better.

Derek Anderson, Malik Hairston, Rod Strickland, Jason Hart?

Who else am I missing

[TrueSpursFan]

http://youtu.be/MsOXd6jmMOc

[Mr. Body]

Got excited when we drafted the Number 2 overall high school prospect from 2012... but then I read that Shabazz Muhammad was number 1, what happened to him?

He was always bigger and stronger than his level, but never developed his skills much.

[Kurik]

http://youtu.be/MsOXd6jmMOc

:tu

[Baam]

http://youtu.be/MsOXd6jmMOc

The draft reaction is awesome :lol, added it to my sig

[playbonner15]

http://youtu.be/MsOXd6jmMOc
Slow, soft and unathletic = the perfect Spur :lol

[Chinook]

I wonder if the Spurs are going to give Anderson the full 120 percent of his rookie scale like they did to Kawhi or if they intend to low-ball him like they did to Hill and James Anderson. The team doesn't need the money badly enough to risk alienating their pick, but they usually like to make their players work for their money.

[exstatic]

I wondef if the Spurs are going to give Anderson the fully 120 percent of his rookie scale like they did to Kawhi or if they intend to low-ball him like they did to Hill and James Anderson. The team doesn't need the money badly enough to risk alienating their pick, but they usually like to make their players work for their money.

I think they valued Kawhi higher than his draft slot, and they probably feel the same about Kyle.

[tholdren]

The draft reaction is awesome :lol, added it to my sig
Wonder if he will get a tat of the commissioner reading his name and the draft date on his bicep?

[ChumpDumper]

Envious hater is envious.

[Mr. Body]

I think they valued Kawhi higher than his draft slot, and they probably feel the same about Kyle.

I think they feel now and will definitely in the future feel he's a bargain. In a couple years we'll be shaking our heads at this pick, in the good way.

[Baam]

Wonder if he will get a tat of the commissioner reading his name and the draft date on his bicep?

Seems way too intelligent for that kind of stuff tbh :lol... We're not talking about Blair or Beli...

[SanDiegoSpursFan]

Got excited when we drafted the Number 2 overall high school prospect from 2012... but then I read that Shabazz Muhammad was number 1, what happened to him?
He didn't get much playing time as a rookie, but there were some games where he showed a lot of talent when he finally got the minutes. Not gonna be an all-star but I think he's gonna be in the NBA for a while.

[xmas1997]

I wish he had better defense, but still I think this kid is going to be special.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

http://youtu.be/MsOXd6jmMOc

:tu

Kid couldn't be a better fit, he has some years to develop before too much will be asked of him, and we got him with #30. There is no downside to this. :D

[TD 21]

This is a hand in glove fit, though I see more Turkoglu than Diaw. He doesn't have the strength to be a PF in anything more than select match-ups, nor the physical tools (despite the impressive length) to be even average defensively. Nonetheless, between Leonard, him, Bertans and Jean-Charles, they have SF/combo forward taken care of for a long, long time, which is important in today's game.

In the interim, I expect him to be inactive and to spend a good amount of time with the Toros, when the roster is fully healthy. He doesn't fill the one relative need this team has, which is depth wing defender, but he's an SF all the same, so he at least provides an emergency option.

[Prime Time]

Anderson did say that he'll get quicker and stronger. And with 14% body fat, there's a lot of room for improvement.

Hopefully once he sees how hard Leonard and Joseph work he can start following their path.

[littlecoyotecoin]

http://www.nj.com/knicks/index.ssf/2014/06/2014_nba_draft_after_long_wait_kyle_anderson_lands _in_exceptional_situation_with_spurs.html

[moisaenz]

“We’re going to get back in the gym this afternoon and start working out so that he’s in the best shape of his life going down to San Antonio,” Kyle Anderson Sr. said. “Most people after the draft day get to sit back and think about it, but me and him are back at work.”

[exstatic]

He didn't get much playing time as a rookie, but there were some games where he showed a lot of talent when he finally got the minutes. Not gonna be an all-star but I think he's gonna be in the NBA for a while.

He was a horrible fit. 'Bazz is an old school ISO take it to the hole kind of player. He didn't fit in Adelman's offense. I'm not sure he'll outlast his rookie deal, because he's not really good enough to play that way in the NBA.

[tholdren]

“We’re going to get back in the gym this afternoon and start working out so that he’s in the best shape of his life going down to San Antonio,” Kyle Anderson Sr. said. “Most people after the draft day get to sit back and think about it, but me and him are back at work.”

good for him.

[heyheymymy]

You're right, I'm Americane.

haha niiice

[SouthernFried]

I don't think Kyle's gonna increase his speed, quickness or overall athleticsm all that much. Even tho, he can do all of that to some degree.

What I can see him doing, however...is increasing his strength. He reminds me of Magic and Pierce. Magic wasn't all that quick or extremely athletic...but, he was strong. Same with Pierce. Kyle's already got the mentality of Magic, the passing and court awareness. I think the best thing he can do now, is just get stronger. That IS something he can do. And it sounds like his dad knows it :)

[bobcatfan4life]

He has 13.5% body fat , if he can tone that done he'll be much quicker.

[hooperflash]

Haven't check many of the previous pages ... he'll be wearing #1 ?

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[hooperflash]

Haven't check many of the previous pages ...

Nevermind ..

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[bluebellmaniac]

http://www.nj.com/knicks/index.ssf/2014/06/2014_nba_draft_after_long_wait_kyle_anderson_lands _in_exceptional_situation_with_spurs.html

From the article "In the meantime, Anderson and his dad were out to lunch yesterday in New Jersey, making plans to get into the gym and hit the mall to buy some Spurs gear."

I would have thought, as a draft pick, he'd get that stuff by the boxload straight from the Spurs. A few sets of everything, warm ups, a few jerseys (home and away), towels, etc. Seems weird he'd have to buy the stuff.

[will_spurs]

From the article "In the meantime, Anderson and his dad were out to lunch yesterday in New Jersey, making plans to get into the gym and hit the mall to buy some Spurs gear."

I would have thought, as a draft pick, he'd get that stuff by the boxload straight from the Spurs. A few sets of everything, warm ups, a few jerseys (home and away), towels, etc. Seems weird he'd have to buy the stuff.

Probably for family and friends...

BTW I looked up on bball-ref, the only player of note drafted #30 is David Lee.

There's no way to search specifically for "last pick of the 1st round" but a quick look over the last 20 years shows that there are only a few players who actually make it to the NBA (for decent minutes) and only a few who really make a name for themselves: Tony Parker, David Lee, Josh Howard, Nazr Mohammed...

[Boomersgold]

Not sure if this has been posted yet, but Kyle Anderson was a fan of the Spurs prior to being drafted by them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsOXd6jmMOc&feature=youtu.be

[Mnky]

Boomer, I was just about to post that. Good watch.

[littlecoyotecoin]

Perfunctory apologies if this has been posted here on ST, but I hadn't seen it.

https://vine.co/v/MtV1qiih99x

Found in this article on PTR:

http://www.poundingtherock.com/2014/6/28/5853304/nba-draft-ucla-bruins-expert-says-kyle-anderson-slow-down

Pretty sweet. Does anyone care how fast he did that? Not me. Someone has already gotten pilloried for saying this. So, be careful, I'm not saying Anderson is him...

But, that did remind me a lot of Magic.

[TMC]

http://www.48minutesofhell.com/san-antonio-spurs-nba-draft-arizona-ucla


On UCLA’s side, there’s one player that really jumps out, both because of his draft prospects and his unique skill set. Kyle Anderson is a 6’8″ point guard who is really good at what he does. However, there isn’t a chance in Hell he’ll be a point guard at the next level. Why you ask, because he’s almost always the slowest guy on the court. He has so little athletic ability, that his nickname is “SlowMo,” a nickname he wears with pride. Despite the athletic limitations, Anderson is a stat stuffer playing in one of the best conferences in the country (averages of 15.3 points, 9.3 rebounds, 6.6 assists and 1.8 steals per game). Grantland’s Danny Chau (https://twitter.com/dannychau) went to Pauley Pavilion (http://grantland.com/the-triangle/we-went-there-arizona-is-terrifying-but-ucla-gave-the-cats-a-scare/)and had this to say about Anderson’s game.


His use of hesitations, fakes, and weight-shifting is next-level — it’s as if his defender is entranced by watching Anderson move so slowly in real time that his own reaction time is forced to adapt. Then, once the defender finds himself playing in Anderson’s time signature, it’s too late. He merely adopted the slow. Anderson was born in it.



Everything Danny wrote is accurate. Watching Anderson play is like watching the scenes in the Matrix once Neo figures out he’s the one and everything just slows down. He knows what his defenders are doing before they know it themselves and he just waits for his spot and attacks. Again, Anderson’s position in the NBA is a huge question mark. He’s a little slight to play power forward, but for my money I’d say that’s his future. He’s Boris Diaw 2.0. He needs to bulk up, but he’s not so slow that he wouldn’t have an advantage against bigs trying to guard him. Bottom line is he’s SO smart and the Spurs have figured out a way to maximize Diaw’s skills, it feels like a match made in heaven, especially if Diaw was still around to teach Anderson a few extra tricks.
Given the Spurs late first round draft status the Spurs appear to always be stuck in, scouting prospects is always a little tricky, but that’s also what makes it fun. This year, the draft appears to be the deepest it’s been in a long time, which bodes well for the Spurs. Of course, we’ll talk about these college guys and they’ll draft someone playing in Europe.

[Spurs21Fan4Ever]

Better Malik Hairston with better shooting and dribbling. Malik was the same coming out of college, lacked footspeed, but that was improved, just not enough for the NBA level given his lack of fundamentals. Where Malik struggled though Anderson excels. I think the Spurs will send him to some top notch trainers that will increase his footwork and will ensure he ends up with a much quicker shooting release. I think he will be a solid contributor in the NBA, and will be a good backup to Kawhi Leonard. I think this was a pick SA wanted to make to try and make the team improve next year, not a long term type pick. I think Anderson can contribute next year and help the team repeat. No doubt he'll work his butt off this year.

[KL2]

Not sure if this has been posted yet, but Kyle Anderson was a fan of the Spurs prior to being drafted by them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsOXd6jmMOc&feature=youtu.be


Awesome, I've seen a couple of videos of him mentioning the Spurs, not this one though.

[TheDarkSide.]

Awesome vid, curious to when he will be formally introduced by RC

[AFBlue]

Better Malik Hairston with better shooting and dribbling. Malik was the same coming out of college, lacked footspeed, but that was improved, just not enough for the NBA level given his lack of fundamentals. Where Malik struggled though Anderson excels. I think the Spurs will send him to some top notch trainers that will increase his footwork and will ensure he ends up with a much quicker shooting release. I think he will be a solid contributor in the NBA, and will be a good backup to Kawhi Leonard. I think this was a pick SA wanted to make to try and make the team improve next year, not a long term type pick. I think Anderson can contribute next year and help the team repeat. No doubt he'll work his butt off this year.

Actually the comp I would've gone with if you're talking past Spurs picks is Marcus Williams. He too was a long unathletic forward that fell in the draft. But I agree that the difference between those two in terms of their present skill-set when they entered the league is huge.

[210Max]

so we can dust off our derek anderson jerseys now?

[BatManu20]

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[RD2191]

:lolGoofy looking mofo.

[pgardn]

He is a player.

Very subtle quick hands both dribbling, passing and shooting. Very deceptive.
He does feel the game. Very good vision allowing him to use his body appropriately.

Athletic limitations are the biggest factor. Could hurt him on both ends, but especially defensively.
I totally agree with the getting stronger issue.
Very interesting, look forward to watching him wherever.

[Malice]

He seriously looks like he's in junior high.

[TheGoldStandard]

Can't wait to see what he's all about

[AFBlue]

He seriously looks like he's in junior high.

He even ages slow tbqh.

[spurraider21]

He even ages slow tbqh.
:lol

[ceperez]

He seriously looks like he's in junior high.

Austin Daye is even thinner that this guy. I think they both need to hang around Boris Diaw to gain some weight.

[Prime Time]

I still think Anderson looks a lot thinner than he did in his UCLA days.

[Chinook]

I still think Anderson looks a lot thinner than he did in his UCLA days.

I think he's trying to be a wing, and he is slimming down as a result. We'll see if it helps on Friday. If not, he needs to gain the weight back in muscle form and be a combo-forward.

The Spurs listed him as a wing on their SL roster, so it's possible that's where they want him.

[benstanfield]

Spurs are going for the all time racially ambiguous team in 2015. Duncan, Parker, Diaw, Green, Ayres, Daye, Joseph, and now Anderson. Pretty impressive really.

[MaNu4Tres]

I think he's trying to be a wing, and he is slimming down as a result. We'll see if it helps on Friday. If not, he needs to gain the weight back in muscle form and be a combo-forward.

The Spurs listed him as a wing on their SL roster, so it's possible that's where they want him.

Friday is too small of a sample size to determine whether or not he needs to gain significant muscle mass/ girth ( which I'm assuming you're implying; to be like 2012-2014 Diaw). He's years from even being considered a competent defender of the power forward position. He's too frail and lacks the physical toughness to box out opposing power forwards from offensive rebounds and from scoring on the block. IMO

What he needs to do is lose the right weight (14% body fat at combine), and gain lean muscle mass -- which doesn't necessarily mean put on weight. He needs to weigh a strong 215, 220 -- not a skinny/pudgy (weird) soft 230 and he should continue pursuing the wing position (PG-SG-SF) in the NBA . IMO

[Chinook]

Friday is too small of a sample size to determine whether or not he needs to gain significant muscle mass. He's years from even being considered a power (defensively)/point (offensively) forward. He's too frail and lacks the physical toughness to box out opposing power forwards from offensive rebounds and from scoring on the block.

What he needs to do is lose the right weight (14% body fat at combine), and gain lean muscle mass -- which doesn't necessarily mean put on weight. He needs to weigh a strong 215, 220 -- not a pudgy soft 230 and continue pursuing the wing position in the NBA.

I didn't mean Friday only. I meant more this season. I personally think he'll end up being a big, but time will tell.

[slick'81]

It will be fun to see how spurs use anderson,Manu replacement or Diaw

[BatManu20]

This kid can flat out ball. Loved watching him at UCLA. Check out his vision and passing in this clip.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgWF45gfH-Y

[loveforthegame]

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[MaNu4Tres]

486930448270901249

Sounds like Pop views him as a PG-SG-SF, not a PF.

[spursparker9]

486930448270901249

Sounds like Pop views him as a PG-SG-SF, not a PF.

Yeah not surprising though.

He is 6'8, 6'9 but he played the perimeter in his college days, so to play him at the 4 on NBA level is probably a bit too early for him.

Playing the 4 may be an option in the future but not now.

[ceperez]

486930448270901249

Sounds like Pop views him as a PG-SG-SF, not a PF.

After seeing his latest photos... he's about 3 years away from being a PF.

Anyone have a photo of Leonard when he was drafted and how he looks now?

[spursparker9]

After seeing his latest photos... he's about 3 years away from being a PF.

Anyone have a photo of Leonard when he was drafted and how he looks now?

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-d8Zijn-79lQ/TyInyAPqLGI/AAAAAAAAA54/J6RTwOfegn0/s1600/sdsu.red.jpg


http://assets-s3.rollingstone.com/assets/images/story/kawhi-leonard-the-vulcan-from-san-antonio-20140527/1000x306/kawhi-306v-1401192996.jpg

[littlecoyotecoin]

486930448270901249

Sounds like Pop views him as a PG-SG-SF, not a PF.

This is an impossibility, we've been informed by the ST experts that he is to bulk up and play the 4. Kyle may have a high BBIQ, but he needs to get his hearing checked.

[xmas1997]

This is an impossibility, we've been informed by the ST experts that he is to bulk up and play the 4. Kyle may have a high BBIQ, but he needs to get his hearing checked.

Or his priorities realigned, right?
:lmao

[TheGoldStandard]

This is an impossibility, we've been informed by the ST experts that he is to bulk up and play the 4. Kyle may have a high BBIQ, but he needs to get his hearing checked.

Rookies will never learn

[Jwash_1986]

This is an impossibility, we've been informed by the ST experts that he is to bulk up and play the 4. Kyle may have a high BBIQ, but he needs to get his hearing checked.

[Prime Time]

You mean Pop doesn't agree with BNSF? :wow

[DPG21920]

He is painfully slow. Like current version of Paul Pierce slow. Damn.

[littlecoyotecoin]

He is painfully slow. Like current version of Paul Pierce slow. Damn.

We should give him a nickname that properly reflects your novel observation.

[SpursFan86]

Don't know how to embed videos from NBA.com on here, but here's a link to his interview in between practices:

http://www.nba.com/spurs/video/140709_interview_kyle_anderson

One thing I found interesting/cool - him saying that a lot of things he's been learning in San Antonio have already been taught to him by his dad (his dad was his basketball coach growing up). I think he could potentially be a very quick learner. He has a high BBIQ and seems to already be ahead of most rookies in terms of knowing the right play to make.

I honestly can't remember the last time I was this excited for SL to start.

[SpursFan86]

We should give him a nickname that properly reflects your novel observation.

What about "Slow-Mo"? When he plays it kinda looks like he's moving in slow-motion, so it makes sense, no? I think it should be his official nickname!

[xmas1997]

What about "Slow-Mo"? When he plays it kinda looks like he's moving in slow-motion, so it makes sense, no? I think it should be his official nickname!

I think it pretty much already is and has been since grade school.

[exstatic]

I think it pretty much already is and has been since grade school.

You missed the implied blue font...

[SpursFan86]

I think it pretty much already is and has been since grade school.

.....guess I should've made my post blue :rolleyes

[xmas1997]

whoops! :lol

[FireMicoHalili]

This is an impossibility, we've been informed by the ST experts that he is to bulk up and play the 4. Kyle may have a high BBIQ, but he needs to get his hearing checked.
:rollin

[jesterbobman]

Do people get that Kyle Anderson's current position and the position he eventually plays can be different? He's played PG for his whole life, and has been able to do it because he's an excellent passer and has great vision. The PF talk here is based on the fact he could bulk up a little, and guard the weaker of the remaining forwards(future planning, both Kawhi and LJC seem like they'll be good defensive combo forwards), while providing rebounding. The fact he's good at that big man skill is promising for his ability to play as a PF in the future.

Right now, he doesn't have the strength to play there. He'll be a PG/wing in summer league, and move to PF as he gets older. Saying the Spurs view him as a PG-SG-SF now and the belief of people like Chinook and myself that he will be a PF eventually aren't necessarily contradictory.

[Chinook]

Do people get that Kyle Anderson's current position and the position he eventually plays can be different? He's played PG for his whole life, and has been able to do it because he's an excellent passer and has great vision. The PF talk here is based on the fact he could bulk up a little, and guard the weaker of the remaining forwards(future planning, both Kawhi and LJC seem like they'll be good defensive combo forwards), while providing rebounding. The fact he's good at that big man skill is promising for his ability to play as a PF in the future.

Right now, he doesn't have the strength to play there. He'll be a PG/wing in summer league, and move to PF as he gets older. Saying the Spurs view him as a PG-SG-SF now and the belief of people like Chinook and myself that he will be a PF eventually aren't necessarily contradictory.

Most of us get that, especially since we've seen Diaw move from PG to C over the course of his career. But some folks get their jollies by wallowing in evanescent little pockets of victory like fish flopping around in an evaporating puddle. Let them have their fun. I just want Anderson to succeed, wherever he plays.

I think Pop's going to see if Anderson's weight loss can help him play on the perimeter. I doubt he can guard PGs, but if he can stay in front of big two-guards and small-forwards, perhaps a symbiosis can develop with Green and Leonard. He's going to get a chance to play where he's thusofar succeeded. But if he can't defend out on the perimeter, he won't play there. That's just how Pop works.

[littlecoyotecoin]

Do people get that Kyle Anderson's current position and the position he eventually plays can be different? He's played PG for his whole life, and has been able to do it because he's an excellent passer and has great vision. The PF talk here is based on the fact he could bulk up a little, and guard the weaker of the remaining forwards(future planning, both Kawhi and LJC seem like they'll be good defensive combo forwards), while providing rebounding. The fact he's good at that big man skill is promising for his ability to play as a PF in the future.

Right now, he doesn't have the strength to play there. He'll be a PG/wing in summer league, and move to PF as he gets older. Saying the Spurs view him as a PG-SG-SF now and the belief of people like Chinook and myself that he will be a PF eventually aren't necessarily contradictory.

Michael Jordan moved to small forward, Tim Duncan, Diaw have migrated, and the list could go on for a while. This is a natural progression over a long period of time for many players. A lot of 20 year olds don't have the physique for the 4 (or 5) position. Or, they lose the physique for the others. No surprises there. And, the jury is still out. Anderson might get cut in time because he can't play 1-4 at all in the NBA.

But, yes. I believe people get that. What you have done is make a very measured and modest statement. I can't speak for those that chuckled at my comment. I can only speak for myself. My comment was directed toward a segment of the population that uses blanket and/or definitive statements like "can't", "won't", and "never", etc. even in the face of evidence to the contrary provided by history and maybe even RC Buford on draft night, etc.

If a person makes these types of statements, yes, it is sometimes entertaining to poke fun at them when they are contradicted by professionals or otherwise proved wrong.

If you aren't in the group that said Anderson can't play at those positions, or won't play at those positions, etc. then the comments and chuckling are not directed at you, and there's no reason to be butthurt over it as Chinook especially seems to be, even after making a very rational and modest statement that would seem to show he's not in the subset of people in question. But, who knows. Maybe you both made more radical comments, previously, and are now modifying your positions after the fact, thus the defensive posture. Whatever the case, I had neither of you in mind, specifically, when I made the quip. I leave as an exercise for someone else to determine who made the specific comments. It's very early, and I had to let the dog walk herself, so I had a few minutes to kill.

[FireMicoHalili]

Lol @ the butthurt though. Stop hurting basketball feelings LCC

[8FOR!3]

Athletic limitations shouldn't be as big of a deal for a guy his size. Usually the guys who have issues with it are smaller point guards a la Peyton Siva.

[ace3g]

Official Press release of signing

http://www.nba.com/spurs/san-antonio-signs-first-round-pick-kyle-anderson

[ace3g]

Don Harris @DonHarris4
(https://twitter.com/DonHarris4)Spurs rookie Kyle Anderson's deal is for 4 years 5.5 mil. But only 1st two years are guaranteed. Great bargain if it turns out he can play.

[Cry Havoc]

Don Harris @DonHarris4
(https://twitter.com/DonHarris4)Spurs rookie Kyle Anderson's deal is for 4 years 5.5 mil. But only 1st two years are guaranteed. Great bargain if it turns out he can play.



:tu

Less than 1.5 mil a season for a guy who was thought of at one point to be a top 15 talent in perhaps the deepest draft in history.

[TheGoldStandard]

Good deal, from his small sample size last night he's looking to make the pass and engage the offense which is needed off the bench.

[jhfenton]

Don Harris @DonHarris4
(https://twitter.com/DonHarris4)Spurs rookie Kyle Anderson's deal is for 4 years 5.5 mil. But only 1st two years are guaranteed. Great bargain if it turns out he can play.



So that's a 120% scale deal, but with the third year unguaranteed. Reasonable tradeoff for both sides.

[jhfenton]

:tu

Less than 1.5 mil a season for a guy who was thought of at one point to be a top 15 talent in perhaps the deepest draft in history.

And that average is inflated by the 4th year team option on rookie contracts. The first three years only average $1.1MM.

[Chinook]

So that's a 120% scale deal, but with the third year unguaranteed. Reasonable tradeoff for both sides.

Nah, the third year is always non-guaranteed.

[jhfenton]

Nah, the third year is always non-guaranteed.

Thanks.

[024]

Seems like a pretty standard rookie contract to me.

[pgardn]

He was not good on D last night.

Still looks like a player though. Trying to spread the floor, great pass to Exim.
Avoiding the selfish crap that was evident on both teams.

[ace3g]

http://photos-f.ak.instagram.com/hphotos-ak-xpa1/10514062_739742196067733_666368840_n.jpg

[TheGoldStandard]

http://photos-f.ak.instagram.com/hphotos-ak-xpa1/10514062_739742196067733_666368840_n.jpg

He looks like some regular dude off the street.

[LittleCriminal]

http://photos-f.ak.instagram.com/hphotos-ak-xpa1/10514062_739742196067733_666368840_n.jpg

Wonder what's up with the Toronto sign behind him?

[TheGoldStandard]

Wonder what's up with the Toronto sign behind him?

probably still up from when they moved nando.. they were guaging who they could get for the deal

[loveforthegame]

Wonder what's up with the Toronto sign behind him?

I don't know but we might get 80+ pages from it though.

[TheGoldStandard]

Maybe the Spurs want Valanciunas lol

[ace3g]

http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2014/07/12/1-on-1-with-spurs-rookie-kyle-anderson/

[SpursFan86]

http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2014/07/12/1-on-1-with-spurs-rookie-kyle-anderson/

Glad to hear he recognizes he needs to improve defensively and actually wants to do so. If he can at least put forth his full effort and play smart, I think he'll end up being at least an average defender given his size.

[Darius McCrary]

Can anyone else share more info about this kid? He's got funny hair.

[BatManu20]

Can anyone else share more info about this kid? He's got funny hair.

Watched him play a lot at UCLA (they show all their games out here in LA). Kid is a hooper.
High bball IQ
Excellent passer
Good size at 6'9 230 lbs w/ a 7'3 wingspan
Can shoot a little
Point-forward skill set
Was UCLA's best player last season
Below-average athlete with slow feet who will struggle defensively
Only 20 years old
Will play sparingly this season
That's about all you need to know.

[TheyCallMePro]

I really liked the way Anderson played in the first summer league game. 6 points, 6 assists, 4 rebounds is a good stat line. If he had played a bit more and been told to be more aggressive, he probably could have gotten a triple double. But I do question his effectiveness without the ball in his hands, as he made virtually all of his plays while playing point. He won't be doing much of that for the spurs. He's got to learn to play off the ball, work on spot up shooting, and be more aggressive driving and playing D. And he's got to do something about his slow release on his jump shot because right now it's just a brutally slow release. He might be a good shooter, but if he can never get your shot off that's not exactly good. Chip might need to completely change his shot.

[playbonner15]

Maybe the Spurs want Valanciunas lol
Or Amir Johnson :wow

[benstanfield]

I'm excited to see Anderson, Ayres, Baynes, and Daye play this season. This is a make or break year for the careers of the latter three. I really believe Daye could take Bonner's spot in the rotation, giving us a little more on offense and rebounding and a little less on positional defense. Baynes might finally figure things out, take the backup C position, and hu-hu-hump it into submission.

And like it or not, I still believe in Ayres. If he could catch a fucking basketball there would be nothing stopping him from being a great change of pace big off the bench. He's a decent rebounder and has the athleticism to be a solid defender and screener. With Baynes, Ayres and Daye, Pop has a medicine cabinet of bigs to throw into the 4th slot depending on what the situation calls for.

It's tough to tell where Anderson's minutes will come. Maybe play Manu at backup PG while Mills is hurt and have a Manu-Marco-Anderson back court?

Tspence if you're reading this, please text Pop and tell him not to play Cory fucking Joseph for 8 months. I don't think I can take it. And don't sign Bonner so he can be in a suit behind the bench all year.

[SanDiegoSpursFan]

And like it or not, I still believe in Ayres. If he could catch a fucking basketball there would be nothing stopping him from being a great change of pace big off the bench. He's a decent rebounder and has the athleticism to be a solid defender and screener. With Baynes, Ayres and Daye, Pop has a medicine cabinet of bigs to throw into the 4th slot depending on what the situation calls for.

Ayres showed some progress last year. He came pretty close to stepping out of the restricted zone when guarding the PnR neat the end of the season, I think he's gonna get both feet out of it this year.

[Nathan89]

I expect KA to outplay wiggens tomorrow.

[JohnnyMax]

I expect KA to outplay wiggens tomorrow.

You'll be amazed at how fast Wiggins moves. Caught me off guard against the Bucks.

[Ice009]

You'll be amazed at how fast Wiggins moves. Caught me off guard against the Bucks.

What did Wiggins look like anyway? I'm not really interested in watching the game. Did he play well?

[playbonner15]

I expect KA to outplay wiggens tomorrow.
LOL that's not a favorable matchup. Wiggins will drive and dunk on that wigga

[spursparker9]

What did Wiggins look like anyway? I'm not really interested in watching the game. Did he play well?

Avery Johnson. Da face

[Ice009]

Avery Johnson. Da face

What did his game look like?

[JohnnyMax]

What did Wiggins look like anyway? I'm not really interested in watching the game. Did he play well?

chjEUzmAO44

[BOHOLANO#21]

I love KA's game. Hopefully Pop will give him some burn this coming season.

[Obstructed_View]

He's got Manu's stepback already.

[Chinook]

Wiggins reminds me of Dino from the Flintstones.

[FlAVaK]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhahjgWyeTQ

[pgardn]

Can anyone else share more info about this kid? He's got funny hair.

When the ball is in his hands, good things will happen.

He has no panic, looks totally in control, does not hold it too long...

He is one of those guys who looks like the ball is just naturally a part of him.
He sees the entire floor, with the ball, without the ball, right before the ball is passed to him.
He does not bang the ball while dribbling, or constantly crossover while standing still going no where, very efficient with minimal extra body motion with the ball. And the ball stays close to him.

Moves very well without the ball as well. He makes it look very easy, thus the slow mo...
Great hands. He will be a good positional rebounder due to the hands.

His D looks horrific. He will need help, a team D scheme.

He must add muscle to that frame or he will get shoved around and moved off an offensive stance. Muscle will help him on both ends. He appears already to have a low center of gravity which is good as he will not beat anyone in a foot race.

He is one of those guys you love to see on the floor with you as he will make play easier on everyone else. Not that, oh shit, Anderson coming in, ball movement freezes, team into selfish mode player. Darius Morris and Marcus Denmon appear to be the types the rest of the team will shrug and watch when they have the ball, not Anderson. My opinion after a short watch of those two.

Cant wait for the other games. It's so interesting to see the chuckers/over dribblers trying to impress and hoping the camera will pan to RC...

[2centsworth]

When the ball is in his hands, good things will happen.

He has no panic, looks totally in control, does not hold it too long...

He is one of those guys who looks like the ball is just naturally a part of him.
He sees the entire floor, with the ball, without the ball, right before the ball is passed to him.
He does not bang the ball while dribbling, or constantly crossover while standing still going no where, very efficient with minimal extra body motion with the ball. And the ball stays close to him.

Moves very well without the ball as well. He makes it look very easy, thus the slow mo...
Great hands. He will be a good positional rebounder due to the hands.

His D looks horrific. He will need help, a team D scheme.

He must add muscle to that frame or he will get shoved around and moved off an offensive stance. Muscle will help him on both ends. He appears already to have a low center of gravity which is good as he will not beat anyone in a foot race.

He is one of those guys you love to see on the floor with you as he will make play easier on everyone else. Not that, oh shit, Anderson coming in, ball movement freezes, team into selfish mode player. Darius Morris and Marcus Denmon appear to be the types the rest of the team will shrug and watch when they have the ball, not Anderson. My opinion after a short watch of those two.

Cant wait for the other games. It's so interesting to see the chuckers/over dribblers trying to impress and hoping the camera will pan to RC...
good job. Anderson gets it, Daye doesn't.

[Roger Freemason Jr.]

This kid looks horrible.

[TheyCallMePro]

Anderson's release on his shot is WAY too slow. My God. How does he ever expect to get a shot off in the NBA? It's just horrible. Needs to completely change.

That said, we have some SELFISH-ASS players on this summer league team. When Marcus Denmon and Darius Morris touch it they ain't never giving it back. It's brutal to watch, and takes valuable touches away from Anderson. And like, I get it. They're trying to impress and make someone's roster, but God they're selfish.

[TheGreatYacht]

I'm praying to god this is the Pre-Chip KA... :vomit:

[Texas_Ranger]

He's slower then slow.

[Kurik]

Put better players around him and I think he will shine. He had a decent game just a couple nights ago lol.

[ulosturedge]

He looks like the furthest thing from a small forward right now. Maybe playing in a system will help bring out his strengths. He looks destined for the Toros.

[SpursFan86]

After the first game: "Omg KA looks great! Should be an awesome fit for us. He might even crack the rotation this year!"

After the second game: "Wow...this guy better seriously improve. He's looking like D-League material."

[xmas1997]

After the first game: "Omg KA looks great! Should be an awesome fit for us. He might even crack the rotation this year!"

After the second game: "Wow...this guy better seriously improve. He's looking like D-League material."

I know.
Silly fans!
:lol

[TheDarkSide.]

So does this guy make the 12man roster next yr? Spurs lookin pretty full with bonner and now baynes possibly back

[Darkwaters]

So does this guy make the 12man roster next yr? Spurs lookin pretty full with bonner and now baynes possibly back

Pretty sure thats self-evident. He'll be assigned to Austin most of the season. Maybe a couple of injuries allows him to come up and play a few games, but hes going to need development.

[pgardn]

So does this guy make the 12man roster next yr? Spurs lookin pretty full with bonner and now baynes possibly back

This game is easy for him. But he must gain strength and some defensive savvy because he is not fast. As said above, he will look much better with better players around him. No way does he carry a team with his inability to slash and defend. But he definitely has the natural smarts and ball handling ability to eventually help us if he progresses.

I think it was a great pick at 30 for us. Continue watching. He is much more interesting to watch by far compared to any of our other summer guys except Cotton; also is a curiosity. Tiny Mills.

[pgardn]

He looks like the furthest thing from a small forward right now. Maybe playing in a system will help bring out his strengths. He looks destined for the Toros.

He looks like a guard to me.

[siraulo23]

he's not good enough, and there's a slim chance anderson will ever be good enough to get consistent minutes in the nba (at least with good nba teams) from what ive seen the first 2 games

[exstatic]

he's not good enough, and there's a slim chance anderson will ever be good enough to get consistent minutes in the nba (at least with good nba teams) from what ive seen the first 2 games

:lol :rollin

Some of this shit is going to be pure gold when I dig it back up later.

[xmas1997]

:lol :rollin

Some of this shit is going to be pure gold when I dig it back up later.

For sure, and don't lose it.
I can't wait.

[Mel_13]

he's not good enough, and there's a slim chance anderson will ever be good enough to get consistent minutes in the nba (at least with good nba teams) from what ive seen the first 2 games

George Hill shot 8% in Vegas.

[ironman2886]

You wrist cutting twats just shut your mouths and let Pop and Chip work their magic.

[slick'81]

Agree this season ka needs some time is austin noway he can get regular minutes right now