Church of Kyle Anderson

[Baam]

:hat gonna be learning under Boris and Manu, next 6th man for the Spurs imo. CANT WAIT.

http://thesportspost.com/content/blogs/icons/hi-res-158547056_crop_exact.jpg

Seriously we got the best passer in the draft :hat...

Official song :


BumcoxotNb0

[spurraider21]

UCLA

[99 Problems]

:lobt2: welcome

[Baam]

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[DrunkTXLabrat]

I'm very optimistic about Anderson. Diaw showed so much value. The "Diaw prototype" is a good position to have filled.

[Baam]

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[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

Typical Spurs pick. High IQ guy that can pass. And no, he isn't Nando 2.0. Nando wouldn't keep his mouth shut and develop his game like Mills and the rest of the bench guys have.

Great pick for the Spurs. Will fit well in new hybrid euro offense the Spurs run.

[xmas1997]

Geez, this guy, Slo Mo, is in the Manu, Boris, and Magic mold, he wants to and has always played PG, but is a 6'8" forward with a huge basketball IQ.

[Baam]

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[Mr. Body]

I couldn't be happier about the last pick in the round. This was excellent.

[Baam]

I couldn't be happier about the last pick in the round. This was excellent.

:toast same here haven't been excited like that for a late first rounder in forever....

[Chinook]

I'm hella excited to see him in the summer league. The team doesn't really have a big PG prospect, especially if Joseph stays away. Anderson will get his chance to show some play-making skills.

We're looking at:

PG: Denmon
SG: Bertans
SF: Anderson
PF: Thomas
C: Richards (or hopefully a better prospect)

I'm downloading all the SL games.

[Trill Clinton]

good passer
high bball iq
long
light skinned

spur material

[xmas1997]

I really like this pick, he was considered the most unique player in the draft.

[jkid12456]

why r u excited for this guy i dont get it. we needed a very athletic guy, but we got this scrawny, player like austin daye. thought we needed athletiscm. only good thing is that he's a team oriented player, good passing, but, not athletic enought o get to the rim, and too slow.

[exstatic]

The thing that Pop is going to LOVE, other than his unselfishness is that he is a FREAKISHLY good DEFENSIVE rebounder.

[ironman2886]

good passer
high bball iq
long
light skinned

spur material
:lol

[Mr. Body]

why r u excited for this guy i dont get it. we needed a very athletic guy, but we got this scrawny, player like austin daye. thought we needed athletiscm. only good thing is that he's a team oriented player, good passing, but, not athletic enought o get to the rim, and too slow.

We have athleticism.

[KL2]

Was watching his highlights, GREAT passer. This guy nearly averaged a triple double, 15 PPG, 9 RPG, 7 APG.

I'm imagining the lineup combos with him, you can have him playing PG out there, the ball movement would be sick.

[xmas1997]

I think like Leonard, we will appreciate this kid the more we see him play.
He reminds me of Gervin in the way he moves, just glads around, through, and over the opposition.

[313]

IN

[Baam]

Was watching his highlights, GREAT passer. This guy nearly averaged a triple double, 15 PPG, 9 RPG, 7 APG.

I'm imagining the lineup combos with him, you can have him playing PG out there, the ball movement would be sick.

TP Manu Kawhi Anderson Diaw smallball lineup would have me creaming my pants tbh... Everyone can pass, dribble and hit the 3 :lol

[PublicOption]

http://a1.s6img.com/cdn/0007/p/1089967_6669211_lz.jpg

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

why r u excited for this guy i dont get it. we needed a very athletic guy, but we got this scrawny, player like austin daye. thought we needed athletiscm. only good thing is that he's a team oriented player, good passing, but, not athletic enought o get to the rim, and too slow.

Spurs have the MLE need to address this, including the BAE.

[PublicOption]

http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/visual/whatshot/kylenba26.jpg


pathetic earthlings

[MeloHype]

https://espngrantland.files.wordpress.com/2014/06/kyleanderson1152.jpg

[SnakeBoy]

why r u excited for this guy i dont get it. we needed a very athletic guy, but we got this scrawny, player like austin daye. thought we needed athletiscm. only good thing is that he's a team oriented player, good passing, but, not athletic enought o get to the rim, and too slow.

How did you get to that comparison? Kid is 5 yrs younger than Daye and already has 30lbs on him. I see him getting pulled in two directions...Kawhi saying "Hit the gym and be more like me" and Boris telling him "no, no, no, just add 20lbs of fat and you'll be just like me".

[TheGoldStandard]

I'm hella excited to see him in the summer league. The team doesn't really have a big PG prospect, especially if Joseph stays away. Anderson will get his chance to show some play-making skills.

We're looking at:

PG: Denmon
SG: Bertans
SF: Anderson
PF: Thomas
C: Richards (or hopefully a better prospect)

I'm downloading all the SL games.

Bertans won't be over this season.

[Chinook]

Bertans won't be over this season.

Did something change? Anderson being drafted shouldn't affect that.

[TheGoldStandard]

Did something change? Anderson being drafted shouldn't affect that.

Still has 2 years on his deal with Pertizan. Not sure if that effects the buyout process but they won't bring him over just to see him go.

[Chinook]

Still has 2 years on his deal with Pertizan. Not sure if that effects the buyout process but they won't bring him over just to see him go.

He only has one year (this upcoming season), which can be bought out easily. More than that, Bogdanovic's agent said Bertans was heading to the NBA this season. Not an ironclad confirmation, but a strong sign that it is going to happen. Some folks think the agent simply meant the summer league. But even if that's true, the SL roster I proposed would still include Bertans.

[TheGoldStandard]

He only has one year (this upcoming season), which can be bought out easily. More than that, Bogdanovic's agent said Bertans was heading to the NBA this season. Not an ironclad confirmation, but a strong sign that it is going to happen. Some folks think the agent simply meant the summer league. But even if that's true, the SL roster I proposed would still include Bertans.

I hope that's the case. I'd like to see what improvements he's made since the injury. From what I've read he's struggled and has been off the bench but he's surrounded by a bunch of young guys without a lot of experience together.

[Kiwi]

This is a actually a pretty nasty poster from someone "slow and nonathletic"

http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/03/14/posterized-kyle-anderson-says-i-can-jump-too-video/

[T Park]

The thing that Pop is going to LOVE, other than his unselfishness is that he is a FREAKISHLY good DEFENSIVE rebounder.

He also, as I've read, has a ridiculously high BBall iq. Pop just slobbers over high IQ guys. Horry, Diaw, Finley.

[T Park]

Did something change? Anderson being drafted shouldn't affect that.

He needs playing time. Lots of it. Needs one more year in Europe.

[TheGoldStandard]

He needs playing time. Lots of it. Needs one more year in Europe.

He's struggled since he's been back, as mentioned above, he's been coming off the bench

[Chinook]

He needs playing time. Lots of it. Needs one more year in Europe.

He can get that in the d-league. And he can learn the Spurs' system.

[TheGoldStandard]

He can get that in the d-league. And he can learn the Spurs' system.

What kind of salary are we looking at for Bertans?

[Chinook]

What kind of salary are we looking at for Bertans?

$473k is the rookie minimum. He'd probably get closer to $900k if he signs a three- or four-year deal.

[TheGoldStandard]

$473k is the rookie minimum. He'd probably get closer to $900k if he signs a three- or four-year deal.

That's not bad at all. I'd love to see what Bertans can do, I genuinely think he'd be a great stretch 4. I wonder if they'll have Daye in the SL as well to get reps.

[T Park]

He can get that in the d-league. And he can learn the Spurs' system.

Better competition in Europe than the d league.. He needs the better comp. also takes up a roster spot. He's fine where he is.

[100%duncan]

I'm hella excited to see him in the summer league. The team doesn't really have a big PG prospect, especially if Joseph stays away. Anderson will get his chance to show some play-making skills.

We're looking at:

PG: Denmon
SG: Bertans
SF: Anderson
PF: Thomas
C: Richards (or hopefully a better prospect)

I'm downloading all the SL games.

Send me links of DL sites tbh :lol

[Chinook]

Better competition in Europe than the d league.. He needs the better comp. also takes up a roster spot. He's fine where he is.

The competition aspect doesn't matter. The dude's been a pro for a while now. If he's struggling there, leaving him isn't going to help. In Austin, he'd get time just like in Europe, but the Spurs could control his development.

Also, if Bertans can't make this Spurs roster, he can't make one for the foreseeable future. If Thomas gets a spot this year and LJC comes over in 2015, Bertans is probably on the outside for a few years.

[playbonner15]

Did something change? Anderson being drafted shouldn't affect that.
Still under contract in Europe

[Chinook]

Still under contract in Europe

We went through that already.

[will_spurs]

Everybody's looking at the basketball aspects, but what I find ever more convincing is that KA seems to be perfect Spurs material in terms of character. Reading his tweets shows that he's a "team first" player with a healthy dose of humility. I also get the feeling that he's happy to have the opportunity to play for the Spurs (of course they are the defending champs, so it helps, but I was thinking more in terms of system, team play and so on).

He really gives me the impression of being yet another player who was "born to be a Spur".

[kobyz]

it's blessing for him that he is arrive in time to play together with Duncan, just moment before Timmy hung up his shoes ...

[kobyz]

do you think that if he was a dead eye shooter he would have been Larry Bird type player?

[TampaDude]

Solid pick, tbh. The kid is gonna mesh well with the Spurs.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

Still has 2 years on his deal with Pertizan. Not sure if that effects the buyout process but they won't bring him over just to see him go.

He has only one year left.

[PublicOption]

He not "unathletic", the game has slowed down for him. He see's the whole floor. He is deliberate.

[ceperez]

Jackpot according to: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2111427-why-kyle-anderson-was-the-perfect-draft-pick-for-san-antonio-spurs-at-no-30#articles/2111427-why-kyle-anderson-was-the-perfect-draft-pick-for-san-antonio-spurs-at-no-30

[DBMethos]

"I think the game of basketball is played within three dribbles," Anderson said in May (per O'Donnell). "If by that third dribble I don't have anything, I like to give up the ball."

Paging Enrique...

[xmas1997]

The sportscasters are all saying that Anderson was the steal of the draft.

[Dverde]

With Anderson on board, I think it makes sense for the Spurs to move Diaw to the starting lineup.

Starters
TP, Green, Leonard, Diaw, Duncan

2nd Unit
Mills, Ginoboli, Marco, Anderson, Tiago

You have facilitators, shooters, and a rim protector on each team now.

[MeloHype]

The sportscasters are all saying that Anderson was the steal of the draft.Spurs could've drafted a 70 year old man and they would've said it was the steal of the draft

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

With Anderson on board, I think it makes sense for the Spurs to move Diaw to the starting lineup.

Starters
TP, Green, Leonard, Diaw, Duncan

2nd Unit
Mills, Ginoboli, Marco, Anderson, Tiago

You have facilitators, shooters, and a rim protector on each team now.

Splitter will still start. With him and Duncan together, the Spurs have had the 3rd best Def PER the last two season. But yes, against small ball teams, the Spurs can now easily move Splitter to the bench and still have that point forward on the court at all times to counter.

[littlecoyotecoin]

https://espngrantland.files.wordpress.com/2014/06/kyleanderson1152.jpg

That chart can't be correct. Jkid just told me Kyle can't get to the rim. Don't be confusing me with facts. What I want to know, is can the kid DUNK?!

[littlecoyotecoin]

He not "unathletic", the game has slowed down for him. He see's the whole floor. He is deliberate.

When watching him I get that, too. He just seems CALM. Not sure what will become of him, but I love his poise and energy.

[littlecoyotecoin]

How did you get to that comparison? Kid is 5 yrs younger than Daye and already has 30lbs on him. I see him getting pulled in two directions...Kawhi saying "Hit the gym and be more like me" and Boris telling him "no, no, no, just add 20lbs of fat and you'll be just like me".

Daye 216

Anderson 230

But, Daye 1-2 inches taller. So, only 14 lbs, but please continue.

[Spur|n|Austin]

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:tu

[Malice]

https://espngrantland.files.wordpress.com/2014/06/kyleanderson1152.jpg


I just watched that Spurs finals mini movie for the first time...enjoyed that hell out of that.

[Jimcs50]

Nancy Lieberman loves Anderson and said he is perfect for Spurs. She thought OKC really fucked up passing on him. Also Bobby Hurley was his high school coach so it's no wonder he is best passer in draft

[SnakeBoy]

Nice article on him...
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2111427-why-kyle-anderson-was-the-perfect-draft-pick-for-san-antonio-spurs-at-no-30

Love this quote...


"I think the game of basketball is played within three dribbles," Anderson said in May (per O'Donnell). "If by that third dribble I don't have anything, I like to give up the ball."

That sounds like a line ripped straight out of Popovich's isolation-averse philosophy.

[DesignatedT]

Pop is going to love this kid. His personality is just perfect here.

[Chinook]

That chart can't be correct. Jkid just told me Kyle can't get to the rim. Don't be confusing me with facts. What I want to know, is can the kid DUNK?!

Yes.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10SNK-7A89I&app=desktop

[littlecoyotecoin]

Yes.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10SNK-7A89I&app=desktop

Thanks. Yeah, I saw that. I was being facetious. Dunking is nice, but one of the least of my interests. But, doesn't hurt to show it again. I wonder if it hurts more to have the ball thrown down your throat fast, or in Slowmo.

[mudyez]

https://espngrantland.files.wordpress.com/2014/06/kyleanderson1152.jpg

In two or three years those empty corner3-spots will explode!

[littlecoyotecoin]

In two or three years those empty corner3-spots will explode!

Yeah, it's going to be Atari Missile Command all over those corners!

[xtremesteven33]

This guy is the perfect fit. Spurs fans should be ecstatic. This guy can one day play all 5 positions if need be. He talks like a Spur and plays like one. Cant wait for next season.

[pikkiwoki]

BumcoxotNb0

[spurraider21]

if Chip can speed up the timing on his 3-ball he could see 15 mpg as a rookie

[Spurs21Fan4Ever]

I'm an Oregon fan, I just watched this kid in person in the student section at Oregon this last year, and the entire time I just thought "Boy I'd love for him to be in Sa playing backup SF." This kid is a PERFECT fit for SA! He's humble, a team player, quiet, doesn't like the limelight, and is an excellent shooter and passer! Also, he is a great rebounder and defender. This kid is by FAR the biggest steal in the draft and you better believe he will contribute this year and help the team reach championship #6! I strongly believe he will be the 10th player on the team in terms of minutes, while he'll still be a valuable addition, he is Kawhi's backup, and Kawhi will probably have the most minutes of anyone on the team this year. So while he is still very valuable, he is behind Kawhi so his minutes will be limited. Anderson and Diaw are going to have a lot of fun together in the second lineup this year.

[Budkin]

I'm an Oregon fan, I just watched this kid in person in the student section at Oregon this last year, and the entire time I just thought "Boy I'd love for him to be in Sa playing backup SF." This kid is a PERFECT fit for SA! He's humble, a team player, quiet, doesn't like the limelight, and is an excellent shooter and passer! Also, he is a great rebounder and defender. This kid is by FAR the biggest steal in the draft and you better believe he will contribute this year and help the team reach championship #6! I strongly believe he will be the 10th player on the team in terms of minutes, while he'll still be a valuable addition, he is Kawhi's backup, and Kawhi will probably have the most minutes of anyone on the team this year. So while he is still very valuable, he is behind Kawhi so his minutes will be limited. Anderson and Diaw are going to have a lot of fun together in the second lineup this year.

Good take but it's time to change your avatar! :lol

[Mnky]

Good take but it's time to change your avatar! :lol


Seconded.

[wildbill2u]

:hat gonna be learning under Boris and Manu, next 6th man for the Spurs imo. CANT WAIT.


http://thesportspost.com/content/blogs/icons/hi-res-158547056_crop_exact.jpg

Seriously we got the best passer in the draft :hat...

ESPN magazine evaluation of Anderson BEFORE the draft: "Ceiling is in shape Boris Diaw. Floor is out of shape Boris Diaw." He should work into our passing offense without a problem.

He is slow and may be a serious problem for maintaining NBA level defense. But handles ball very well in traffic. He reminds me of another slow player we had back in the day who didn't have speed to drive into the lane but somehow made a lot of shots using the finger roll--George Gervin. Anderson will never be the shooter George was, but slow can be deceptive on offense sometimes.

You can't expect much at 30 and most mock drafts had him at least 5 picks higher. We'll see.

[Spurs21Fan4Ever]

Good take but it's time to change your avatar! :lol

I've been trying to figure out how but I really suck at technology. Every time I try to change it I get a message saying that the picture is invalid, I've tried everything.

[ceperez]

I'm an Oregon fan, I just watched this kid in person in the student section at Oregon this last year, and the entire time I just thought "Boy I'd love for him to be in Sa playing backup SF." This kid is a PERFECT fit for SA! He's humble, a team player, quiet, doesn't like the limelight, and is an excellent shooter and passer! Also, he is a great rebounder and defender. This kid is by FAR the biggest steal in the draft and you better believe he will contribute this year and help the team reach championship #6! I strongly believe he will be the 10th player on the team in terms of minutes, while he'll still be a valuable addition, he is Kawhi's backup, and Kawhi will probably have the most minutes of anyone on the team this year. So while he is still very valuable, he is behind Kawhi so his minutes will be limited. Anderson and Diaw are going to have a lot of fun together in the second lineup this year.

Certainly looks like he's a rookie that is ready to contribute. He's not going to get lost in the Spurs offense.

[xmas1997]

ESPN magazine evaluation of Anderson BEFORE the draft: "Ceiling is in shape Boris Diaw. Floor is out of shape Boris Diaw." He should work into our passing offense without a problem.

He is slow and may be a serious problem for maintaining NBA level defense. But handles ball very well in traffic. He reminds me of another slow player we had back in the day who didn't have speed to drive into the lane but somehow made a lot of shots using the finger roll--George Gervin. Anderson will never be the shooter George was, but slow can be deceptive on offense sometimes.

You can't expect much at 30 and most mock drafts had him at least 5 picks higher. We'll see.

I've been saying the same thing, that he reminds me of the Iceman, the way he moves, silky smooth as if in slow motion, but no one can stop him because they are frozen.
:lol

[Budkin]

I've been trying to figure out how but I really suck at technology. Every time I try to change it I get a message saying that the picture is invalid, I've tried everything.

There you go!

[xmas1997]

They should get Gervin to mentor him IMHO.
He reminds me so much of him.

[Juggity]

:lol he's nothing like George Gervin, come on

[Spur|n|Austin]

They should get Gervin to mentor him IMHO.
He reminds me so much of him.

How so? Reminds me of Boris..

[xmas1997]

:lol he's nothing like George Gervin, come on

Have you watched any film of both? Check it out if you haven't.
Ok, I know it sounds like an exaggeration, but mark my words.
I've been wrong before, and will be wrong again, but IMHO I don't think I am about this kid.

[Prime Time]

I don't understand how some people are upset about this pick. In terms of raw talent, Anderson is probably the best prospect the Spurs have drafted within the past 5-10 years or so. Not to mention how this guy has 3 seasons to spend with the development staff before he even turns 24.

[Prime Time]

I see what XMas means by the Gervin reference. Both have a cool demeanor to them with a long first step.

But other then that, one is a scorer and the other is a playmaker. It's really where the comparison ends.

[xmas1997]

How so? Reminds me of Boris..

Watch him gliding through traffic looking for his shot or the open man.
Just like Gervin used to do, and he has Gervin's finger roll down.
Gervin always used to seem like he was moving in stop frame action on his way to the basket.
Anderson looks the same.
Honestly, I know this sounds preposterous but I would not be surprised if he cracked the starting lineup and became an offensive threat to be reckoned with this year, even though his defense is rather atrocious. But then so was Gervin's defense.
I am cautiously optimistic about this kid. Remember, he literally destroyed the best defensive player in the draft when they played against each other.
But mark my words.

[spurraider21]

Watch him gliding through traffic looking for his shot or the open man.
Just like Gervin used to do, and he has Gervin's finger roll down.
Gervin always used to seem like he was moving in stop frame action on his way to the basket.
Anderson looks the same.
Honestly, I know this sounds preposterous but I would not be surprised if he cracked the starting lineup and became an offensive threat to be reckoned with this year, even though his defense is rather atrocious. But then so was Gervin's defense.
I am cautiously optimistic about this kid. Remember, he literally destroyed the best defensive player in the draft when they played against each other.
But mark my words.
:lmao cautiously optimistic, thinks he can break the starting 5 on the reigning champs. troll post for sure, as usual

[xmas1997]

:lmao cautiously optimistic, thinks he can break the starting 5 on the reigning champs. troll post for sure, as usual


Troll post? As usual? Where are you coming from?
There is nothing of troll about a cautious "opinion".
Best check your dictionary definitions.
I do not ask you to believe my opinion, do I? No.
Just "mark my words".
If you don't like the player, or my opinion, then fine, that is your opinion.
But there is absolutely nothing even remotely resembling a troll post about it.

[Juggity]

Have you watched any film of both? Check it out if you haven't.
Ok, I know it sounds like an exaggeration, but mark my words.
I've been wrong before, and will be wrong again, but IMHO I don't think I am about this kid.

George Gervin was a score-first, score-last, score-always lanky SG/SF. His career assist numbers were ~2.5/game. He was looking to shoot the ball or drive to the hoop, not pass.

From everything I've seen, Kyle Anderson is a pass-first guy. Dude averaged 7 assists last season. He's also a rebounder who grabbed 9 boards. Given his lack of speed (much slower than Gervin), and height, he seems to be a SF/PF who can pass. None of that describes the way Gervin played tbh.

[littlecoyotecoin]

Have you watched any film of both? Check it out if you haven't.
Ok, I know it sounds like an exaggeration, but mark my words.
I've been wrong before, and will be wrong again, but IMHO I don't think I am about this kid.

I think he might work out, too. And, one major difference between he and Boris that has been mentioned in other threads if not this one is that Boris has a great post up game that Kyle doesn't have.

[exstatic]

TBH, I'd have drafted the kid at 30 just for his defensive rebounding. That's one of only a handful of stats that carry upward from level to level. The fact that you get outstanding ball handling and dead eye passing as basically a throw in is unbelievable. If Chip can quicken his jumper release and extend his range, they may be talking about him as a top 5 pick in a re-draft in 3-4 years.

[spurraider21]

If Chip can quicken his jumper release and extend his range
This this this. For all the handling/passing ability he has, he's not really going have the ball in his hands on our team given the roster we have... He'll have to work out of a catch and shoot or catch-pump and drive, which is where he can showcase his skill is sort of a secondary playmaker. For that to work he's going to need to speed his release

[skulls138]

Honestly is jumper looks terrible. He bends his elbow too much. He also has a 73% free throw average.

[hooperflash]

Honestly is jumper looks terrible. He bends his elbow too much. He also has a 73% free throw average.

Yeah, but hopefully Chip corrects it.

[Spur|n|Austin]

TBH, I'd have drafted the kid at 30 just for his defensive rebounding. That's one of only a handful of stats that carry upward from level to level. The fact that you get outstanding ball handling and dead eye passing as basically a throw in is unbelievable. If Chip can quicken his jumper release and extend his range, they may be talking about him as a top 5 pick in a re-draft in 3-4 years.

Great post - we saw ole chip do it with Whi, why not Anderson?

[anakha]

Honestly is jumper looks terrible. He bends his elbow too much. He also has a 73% free throw average.

Leonard's looked worse in college, tbh

[Venti Quattro]

UCLA

[weeks]

is everyone assuming chip is still gonna be here next year? i'm concerned about him taking off for more money

[exstatic]

is everyone assuming chip is still gonna be here next year? i'm concerned about him taking off for more money

?? He's under contract, from what I understand. The only way another team can poach him is to offer him a head coaching or top assistant gig.

[skulls138]

Dude is for arms what Kawhi is for hands.

[exstatic]

Dude is for arms what Kawhi is for hands.

That's why he gets steals and occasional sneaky blocks.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

That's why he gets steals and occasional sneaky blocks.

And rebounds and assist passing over the top of players.

[therealtruth]

Dude is for arms what Kawhi is for hands.

Kawhi also has the same wingspan.

[boutons_deux]

What's the use of being speedy, quick if you're too stupid to learn to be in the right place on offense and defense?

I think Slo-Mo KA and his BBIQ will figure out quickly his role and where to be and when.

Also seems like a classy guy who'll fit right in to the Spurs org.

Simply astonished Spurs got him.

[xmas1997]

When I first started watching him play on these highlights, it looked as if he was slow and unathletic, but he seemed to have command of the court.
Then I looked again, but this time at all the other quicker faster players around him as he had the ball.
I was surprised to see that they too seemed to be slow, even slower than him, as if they were playing in slow motion, and Kyle was just toying with them.
I think that is how he got the nickname "Slomo", not BECAUSE he is slow, but rather because he makes the game and everyone around him appear that they are playing in slow motion.
We will see, but I look forward to it. I haven't been this excited for a new Spurs player since Manu first came to the Spurs.
So many here said negative things about him too, but he proved them wrong quickly.
I look for the same from Kyle.

[kobyz]

Another player he might be comparable to is: evan fournier

[vander]

I hope we get to see some significant minutes for Anderson early next season with Mills and Manu recovering, even though they are guards...

[r0drig0lac]

sometimes he reminds Dejan Bodiroga

[ceperez]

I hope we get to see some significant minutes for Anderson early next season with Mills and Manu recovering, even though they are guards...

These two injuries could be blessings in disguise. Anderson may need to learn how to play PF like Diaw. I just don't see how he'll work out not playing PG.

[Mr Fundamental]

He reminds me Paul Pierce in transition.

Slow but effective when driving to the lane.

[xmas1997]

I think I have probably lauded him enough on here, and now I should just sit back and watch what transpires.
Most are being guardedly optimistic, and rightfully so.
I just hope I turn out to be right, the Spurs will be awesome this year if I am.
:flag:

[dbestpro]

Nancy Lieberman loves Anderson and said he is perfect for Spurs. She thought OKC really fucked up passing on him. Also Bobby Hurley was his high school coach so it's no wonder he is best passer in draft

Bobby Hurley said, "I think that you let him play the point. He gets everybody shots. You don’t have him back defensively balancing the floor, you’re wasting him. But you let him do a lot of what the point guard stuff entails. But then also defensively you don’t bother guarding him on the little guy. Put him on maybe the three man or even sometimes the four man if he’s a step-out player. And now you have a guy like Larry Bird who anticipates. He gets a lot of deflections and steals. He’s long, he blocks shots. And then when he gets a defensive rebound, you got a fast-break started already."[

[SpursFan86]

https://vine.co/v/M2uuIIqXIvu

Nice block by KA

[Sean88888]

I'm definitely in the minority here but I like his shooting form. It's good enough to get it over the defender, he's comfortable doing it, and he's shooting at a good percentage. It's not broken. Don't fix it.

[xmas1997]

Bobby Hurley said, "I think that you let him play the point. He gets everybody shots. You don’t have him back defensively balancing the floor, you’re wasting him. But you let him do a lot of what the point guard stuff entails. But then also defensively you don’t bother guarding him on the little guy. Put him on maybe the three man or even sometimes the four man if he’s a step-out player. And now you have a guy like Larry Bird who anticipates. He gets a lot of deflections and steals. He’s long, he blocks shots. And then when he gets a defensive rebound, you got a fast-break started already."[

I agree. I actually think this is what we'll see.
Spurs are really lucky he fell to #30.

[Dre_7]

I LOVE his ball handling skills. I hope he gets a lot of PT early in the year.

[TheGreatYacht]

[Kyle Anderson tweet that he deleted. Talking about falling on some dude's girl slow]

:wow

[SAGirl]

I haven't joined any congregations yet, but you got me with the slowmo moves :cheer:cheer

[Mamuza94]

621853066652811264

HAhahhahahahahhahahahahhahahhahah... BUUURNNN

[ducks]

http://hangtime.blogs.nba.com/2015/07/16/spurs-anderson-picking-up-his-pace/

[Aztecfan03]

621853066652811264

:wow
does the tweet not show up right for everyone else? After "fell on yo girl slow too" it shows "👌�👌�👌�👌�"

ANd it looks like anderson deleted the tweet.

[ceperez]

Another piece about Anderson (and Simmons):

http://projectspurs.com/2015-articles/the-summer-league-tandem-of-anderson-and-simmons.html

[ceperez]

I didn't notice this before, but Mr. Anderson is "The One".

http://cache1.asset-cache.net/gc/453120586-kyle-anderson-of-the-san-antonio-spurs-poses-gettyimages.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=GkZZ8bf5zL1ZiijUmxa7QZyCtIyCHmGzkHw92Rg0x%2fNzvQ 6SciF9GjGPIVyO0jFA9S2rb2Iq%2bJt%2bdrfWOvSa0rlu1F0V 49H%2fkpGBTRuCueiWcLlWp6tquB5TRLzOkqoi

[beirmeistr]

I have a feeling that Kyle does mot care for his nickname.

[Mr. Body]

Yeah, he's gonna have to cut that shit out (the tweet), but that's hilarious.

[buttsR4rebounding]

I didn't notice this before, but Mr. Anderson is "The One".

http://cache1.asset-cache.net/gc/453120586-kyle-anderson-of-the-san-antonio-spurs-poses-gettyimages.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=GkZZ8bf5zL1ZiijUmxa7QZyCtIyCHmGzkHw92Rg0x%2fNzvQ 6SciF9GjGPIVyO0jFA9S2rb2Iq%2bJt%2bdrfWOvSa0rlu1F0V 49H%2fkpGBTRuCueiWcLlWp6tquB5TRLzOkqoi

Yeah, he even looks like he's moving like Neo after he "believes". Looks like he is moving slow but is still faster than the machine. Maybe he'll be the New and Improved MATRIX.

[ceperez]

Yeah, he even looks like he's moving like Neo after he "believes". Looks like he is moving slow but is still faster than the machine. Maybe he'll be the New and Improved MATRIX.

He can see stuff on the court that nobody else can see! In fact, on a fast break he still looks like he's in slow motion, just like in the movie!

[SAGirl]

Yeah, he even looks like he's moving like Neo after he "believes". Looks like he is moving slow but is still faster than the machine. Maybe he'll be the New and Improved MATRIX.
:lol:ace:ace
I had never thought about it like that. Hilarious!

[SnakeBoy]

Maybe he can get his nickname changed to Neo since he isn't too fond of SloMo anymore.

[NASpurs]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WXCc_2lWes

[SAGirl]

I have a good one:
Slow Mo, in slow mo:


https://instagram.com/p/5Vy39xJ_Ll/

[ceperez]

Defensive Juggernaut!

http://i.giphy.com/3oEdv8Q7GUQu2T7hKw.gif

[bic50]

Defensive Juggernaut!

http://i.giphy.com/3oEdv8Q7GUQu2T7hKw.gif
That length

[SAGirl]

That length
and the timing. No the only game I saw this without fouling. He has good timing and anticipation to complement that lenght.

[SAGirl]

Team first guy. I found this interview where he stated that he was looking to work the most on his defense in SL, particularly playing in a defensive stance. He remarked that the Spurs are letting him develop at his own pace and he feels like his game will come along eventually. He is working to develop his game but for now, his priority is whatever the team needs from him this season.

http://www.basketballinsiders.com/video-kyle-anderson-las-vegas-summer-league/

[said7]

KA was at the Rucker a few days ago. Anyone know how he did?

https://instagram.com/p/6Q5toaOX5t/?taken-by=ebcruckerpark

[Obstructed_View]

Bullet Time.

[ceperez]

Brand new analysis of Kyle Anderson's game:

http://www.thesportsquotient.com/nba/2015/8/13/kyle-anderson-is-set-to-slowly-become-a-star-for

Posted 8/13/2015.


Some call him slow.
I call him methodical.
Some say he’s always going to be mismatched.
I say he’s going to be the one creating the mismatch.
There’s one thing that is pretty universally agreed upon, though: when Bob Hurley says a guy reminds him of Magic Johnson, you’d be wise not to overlook him.

[k_nguyen93]

Interview with Kyle from a month ago about the offseason: http://www.ticket760.com/onair/the-show-w-geoff-sheen-50154/listen-geoff-talks-with-kyle-anderson-13766593/

[SAGirl]

Recent article in the Boston Globe about him. There is an interview with him among a series of notes about other players in the NBA. http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2015/08/15/nba-schedule-must-watch-games/D0vA2lUML6pwx0DXjgjTOO/story.html?event=event25

Of note: Him mentioning that "The thing I’m excited about the most is my defense.” “The points are going to come. I’m not going to go out there and score 20 points during the regular season. My focus is on defense.”
Also: “I think I’m long enough and crazy enough, too, that I don’t think I have to speed my game up,” “I do try to speed it up a little bit because that’s what they asked me for in San Antonio, but I just play my game, just be unselfish.”
“It’s important to keep [the ballhandling] up, I’ve always been a point guard my whole life,” “I was fortunate enough to be 6-9 and keep these ballhandling skills, so it’s important to have on this level. Not a lot of 6-9 guys are grabbing a rebound and able to push it down the floor. That’s just something I’ve been fortunate enough to have with me.”

[ceperez]

Recent article in the Boston Globe about him. There is an interview with him among a series of notes about other players in the NBA. http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2015/08/15/nba-schedule-must-watch-games/D0vA2lUML6pwx0DXjgjTOO/story.html?event=event25

Of note: Him mentioning that "The thing I’m excited about the most is my defense.” “The points are going to come. I’m not going to go out there and score 20 points during the regular season. My focus is on defense.”
Also: “I think I’m long enough and crazy enough, too, that I don’t think I have to speed my game up,” “I do try to speed it up a little bit because that’s what they asked me for in San Antonio, but I just play my game, just be unselfish.”
“It’s important to keep [the ballhandling] up, I’ve always been a point guard my whole life,” “I was fortunate enough to be 6-9 and keep these ballhandling skills, so it’s important to have on this level. Not a lot of 6-9 guys are grabbing a rebound and able to push it down the floor. That’s just something I’ve been fortunate enough to have with me.”

Good find.

I am confident enough with PATFO that they will be able to tweak his game to match the NBA game.

[Obstructed_View]

Hoping his dribbling wasn't in peak form during summer league.

[SAGirl]

A few highlights posted on YouTube by a fan from his appearance in a couple of games this year in chi-league:

http://youtu.be/ak44GbrfGrE
Per that fan he was sensational scoring around 26 points, on 61% shooting, and second game 22 points on 50% shooting. Recorded about 5-6 rebounds, about 7assists and a number of blocks and steals. Some are in the highlights. Enjoy!!!

[Chinook]

Reminds me of those highlights of Ryan Richards playing against all those short white guys.

[SAGirl]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDqWozroKN0

[steeledl]

This church has gotten smaller than the Westboro baptist.

[SAGirl]

This church has gotten smaller than the Westboro baptist.
I forgot this was around TBH.
Thanks for bumping it up.
Not going to spam about Kyle when obviously I will be trolled about it.

[steeledl]

I forgot this was around TBH.
Thanks for bumping it up.
Not going to spam about Kyle when obviously I will be trolled about it.

Yeah, probably. But I respect your fortitude in being this guys sole supporter on this site. I think he sucks.... but I'd like him not to.


Someday if he ever becomes good you can troll me and bump my post.

[HarlemHeat37]

I'm not a big fan, but he hasn't been as bad as some people have implied IMO..it's evident that Pop has a short leash with him, which is a good sign IMO, he's grooming him into what he wants for the next few years..

His ceiling is much higher than Simmons', but the latter is probably a better fit for the current roster with his energy..

[K...]

Work in progress, nothing to see here. This isn't a church for instant gratification, we worship HAM knowing the promise day will arrive.

When Kyle> kawhi. And the gates of heaven open for the true believers.


In all seriousness, another year, another loaded spurs team with limited time to play prospects.

[dabom]

Dumpster of KA.

[SAGirl]

Ok will probably contribute more to his church, since I am the preacher.

1st Q of the Season:

Offensively:

Kyle's offensive game from summer league has not translated, mostly because the Spurs have him playing differently. He was a go to guy in SL, and his role is complementary in the bench. There are much better post players in the bench to run stuff through, and he's still developing his body and his strength. At this point, he basically just spots up for a 3 and has shown to be reluctant to shoot. He's shooting over 40% in the corner 3, but is reluctant to let it fly. Therefore, his role is primarily defense and boards. Whatever playing time he does get, he needs to be great on defense to stay on the floor.

Offensively he's had some moments, but due to his lack of athleticism, he should not be forcing the issue and needs to learn to pick his spots. He's had a number of buzzer beaters and shots from the midrange that I could not find online, but will keep track of any of such plays int he future if he does have them, if I can.

It's noteworthy most of his offense is self generated. That doesn't mean he's a black hole offensively, it just means he's not an ideal spot up shooter and will rather do other things instead, mainly move the ball and look for a shot for someone else. Some of his shots:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5C0kdDR9lls&list=FLtGHop829QNyWbrwyjn1E2w


He has flashed his passing skills too:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNG7sbKSN8g&list=PLGCM_dm2Wql0f-S-4xYTxdI9k0rNMbeXR&index=27


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Xm_FZ4Ay6g&list=PLGCM_dm2Wql0f-S-4xYTxdI9k0rNMbeXR&index=1

[SAGirl]

Defensively is where he's had the most impact with plays like this:




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0W118Vts7kE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVaqwLLz4w4&list=FLtGHop829QNyWbrwyjn1E2w& index=8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9X3mz7JmZI

At this point, Kyle's main role seems defensive. It's ironic, because defense was not his strong suit ever before, but he's improved. Basically, despite it not necessarily being a strength of his, at this point Kyle's playing time depends on how good he is defensively. If he's good defensively he will get playing time that will allow him to be better and improve in other areas. Because he doesn't have an immediate offensive impact though, Pop has been strict with him, and he's lost playing time to J.Simmons who has emerged as an offensive presence in the bench and has improved a whole lot.

Because of Kyle's youth and his untapped potential hopefully he will continue to get better behind closed doors and make the most of his opportunities when he gets them.

Also noteworthy, Kyle played some stretch 4 instead of Boris in a couple of games (against the Suns and Memphis). He has gotten real playing time against potential playoff teams and come through helping in those games. Therefore, his current lack of playing time is a possible testament to the real nice depth of this team.

[SAGirl]

Another Kyle defensive play:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeOhNEAAhsQ

[steeledl]

:tu Glad I bumped this. KA put her on your fucking payroll.

[ceperez]

I'm not a big fan, but he hasn't been as bad as some people have implied IMO..it's evident that Pop has a short leash with him, which is a good sign IMO, he's grooming him into what he wants for the next few years..

His ceiling is much higher than Simmons', but the latter is probably a better fit for the current roster with his energy..

Having Simmons on the second team speeds up the game considerably. The combo of Mills and Simmons, with the skilled passing of Manu and Diaw creates a lot of problems. If the other team really goes small, then having Anderson play instead of West may be an option.

[HarlemHeat37]

Having Simmons on the second team speeds up the game considerably. The combo of Mills and Simmons, with the skilled passing of Manu and Diaw creates a lot of problems. If the other team really goes small, then having Anderson play instead of West may be an option.

Simmons makes sense with the 2nd unit, as he's a nice, athletic, energy player..Patty is the only energy guy on the team, outside of Simmons, having another guy of that nature will help balance the rotation..

Anderson is a better player IMO, but more redundant with the slow pace of the rest of the team..Kyle would be a better fit than Simmons in the SL IMO..

[SAGirl]

Simmons makes sense with the 2nd unit, as he's a nice, athletic, energy player..Patty is the only energy guy on the team, outside of Simmons, having another guy of that nature will help balance the rotation..

Anderson is a better player IMO, but more redundant with the slow pace of the rest of the team..Kyle would be a better fit than Simmons in the SL IMO..


Having Simmons on the second team speeds up the game considerably. The combo of Mills and Simmons, with the skilled passing of Manu and Diaw creates a lot of problems. If the other team really goes small, then having Anderson play instead of West may be an option.

We are probably not going to see him much like Boban, outside of rest for others or blowouts. It's a shame because both guys can play, but we are stacked.

I wonder if he will get a dleague assignment to keep up his rhythm and game conditioning. Young players have to play to develop. There is only so much you can improve upon with the coaches if you are not having real game situations. He dominated dleague and summer league, so any improvement might be marginal, plus they will have him in a different role, thus Pop may prefer to have him with the team, but as a fan I want to see him improve and he won't do it in the bench.

With Butler in the team to sub in occasionally (occasional and rare foul trouble situations and such) I think the team could afford to send him down for a few games. If Pop made up his mind he doesn't need to rely on him this season I think dleague could help him a bit with shot selection and possibly practice his 3 or shot in game situations.

[ceperez]

We are probably not going to see him much like Boban, outside of rest for others or blowouts. It's a shame because both guys can play, but we are stacked.

I wonder if he will get a dleague assignment to keep up his rhythm and game conditioning. Young players have to play to develop. There is only so much you can improve upon with the coaches if you are not having real game situations. He dominated dleague and summer league, so any improvement might be marginal, plus they will have him in a different role, thus Pop may prefer to have him with the team, but as a fan I want to see him improve and he won't do it in the bench.

With Butler in the team to sub in occasionally (occasional and rare foul trouble situations and such) I think the team could afford to send him down for a few games. If Pop made up his mind he doesn't need to rely on him this season I think dleague could help him a bit with shot selection and possibly practice his 3 or shot in game situations.

Spurs are stacked with players all the way to #13 being able to make considerable contributions.

The way I see it, the Spurs will beat opponents by running their stars to the ground. That's why the high energy guys like Mills and Simmons are so important because they make the other team work on the defensive side.

Anderson doesn't provide the same. What he does provide is an advantage if ever the opponent goes really small. He can be unstoppable posting up against smaller guards.

Boban is another player that can exhaust the other team. His sheer size makes the opponent centers work extremely hard. Ideal for teams like the Rockets or Memphis.

I don't think KA is going to Austin to get any reps. Pop has confidence in him, but needs him to be more focused when he gets in the game. It's so disconcerting to see how many times Pop has pulled Anderson out of the game. It seems like Anderson is getting the Tony Parker treatment.

[SAGirl]

I don't think KA is going to Austin to get any reps. Pop has confidence in him, but needs him to be more focused when he gets in the game. It's so disconcerting to see how many times Pop has pulled Anderson out of the game. It seems like Anderson is getting the Tony Parker treatment.

Perhaps not this early in the season, while there are teams we are still blowing out and he could play and benefit from Pop's coaching more than anything else. Granted its competition against 3rd string players, but I have seen Pop actually coach these blowouts, it's not like he's sitting back not caring.

As a sidenote: Spurs didn't have him play lead point in the dleague. He was strictly a 3 and a ballhandling stretch 4 kind of like Boris. It seemed Spurs wanted him to transition from his college ways to learn to play like a forward and learn the offense from those spots as well as practicing his postups, since his game was so different in college. He had the green light to push the ball ahead and start the offense if he grabbed a rebound, but he was not calling sets or directing an offense per se or dealing with full court pressure. That was not something they had him work on.

Now in the NBA, I have already seen him do the last two things more with Pop than I would recall him doing them for the lower league teams ever. POP has also had him practice as a PnR ballandler and do several things as a ballhandler so I tend to think Kyle is still a project that Pop is still figuring out, so he's going to play different spots (Pop said this himself very early in preseason as well). If the purpose fir him this season is to progress in general, while Pop simply observes him play different roles while he figures out in what role he would be best, then Pop will probably want him around to observe him.

[sasaint]

I believe that Kyle's ultimate, optimal position will be a sort of Point-4. Our own Bobo is the most comparable player (and just about the only one) that comes to my mind. The way Bobo is playing, I would not rule out his playing another 2 or 3 years. Hopefully, LMA will be here for much longer. If Timmy and West depart after this season, the pressure on Kyle to improve will increase dramatically. But, in addition to improving his skills, he will have to improve his strength and add some bulk/muscle. If Tim returns and continues to perform well, Kyle will have a little more time to find his niche and become a reliable rotation piece. Things get a little muddier if PATFO brings West back. Also what will Boban do this post-season? Then there is Cady to think about. Basically, next season the Spurs' 4/5 position could be anything from sparse to overcrowded, and Kyle's fate with the team will depend to a some extent on the number of guys that return after this season.

IMHO, LMA and Boris will be back. I think there is a good chance Boban returns (especially if Tim retires). I think there is a decent chance Tim returns, but that depends largely on his health and whether we win a 'ship this season. Health and (especially) the championship will have a strong bearing on whether West returns, too. I hope we return all of our bigs except West. Tim's minutes would diminish even more, with Boban and Kyle picking up the difference along with West's minutes. Cady would then be available for the garbage time/occasional d-league assignment like Kyle last year and Boban this season. In any event, IMO Kyle will either be a rotation player next season or he will be playing elsewhere. It will be time for us to either fish or cut bait with Kyle.

Just to complicate matters a little more, if Manu retires we will have some issues at the 3 where Kyle could see some spot duty against opponents with a pure (read: slow) spot-up shooter that Kyle could defend. That would give him some additional minutes/utility in the short run, but that would only be a transitional phase since Kyle won't make money in the NBA playing at the 3 IMHO. Personally, I hope Manu returns for one more year to play Simmons' current minutes while Simmons proves himself capable of playing DG to Manu's current minutes. I also expect Davis Bertans to become a new piece next season. I assume that Bonner and Rasual will be gone, possibly along with Ray.

[Chinook]

I'm still a huge Kyle supporter. I don't get what people want from him. He's very good defensively, and he's shooting decently. He's not a great fit with Manu, but he's in no way a bad player.

[SAGirl]

Very interesting points concerning next season.

The future of the team is really unknown having so many old players. Realistically speaking, any season now could be the last for the legend HoF players and even if they return you can't take for granted their performance. At one point it could really fall off. They seem ageless, but it will end sometime. When they are gone we will simply be a different team.

I don't know or assume anything concerning West' s fate. I think if Tim and Manu come back I think he does too, but if the vets are gone it is questionable. And then again he likes a leadership role and we would have a potential assortment of young bigs to train, so he will be appreciated and probably wanted and needed even more. He affords additional time to develop Cady or Bertans or Kyle to develop into a true stretch 4 at least for the bench. If not West you would need someone else.

Hard to say for me, what to make if Kyle at this point and I am a fan. I think Kyle has a body type with a light frame that won't ever let him look all buffed up, but look at Porzinguis with his light frame. Even Timmy has looked slim lately. He just has to keep working on his game. He was unguardable when matched up against smaller guys bc he could shoot with guys all over him. He didn't need to blow by someone when he could make plays around and over guys. He has to eventually learn to dominate his matchup, he won't do that for now, nor do we need him to.

In a future like that (without the vets) it is swim or sink for Kyle for sure, Boban, Cady, whoever. It would not be unrealistic to think Spurs might even need to make a trade to fill up holes and Kyle and possibly other guys too, other than our franchise players could be a trade chip.

[steeledl]

Ah, the rare Porzingod-Anderson comparison.

[HarlemHeat37]

Hopefully Pop sticks with him in the rotation over Simmons, tbh..I expect him to continue giving each guy a shot, though, at least until February..

[tholdren]

Another Kyle defensive play:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeOhNEAAhsQ

who cares about a block on some chucker who went 1v5?

[HarlemHeat37]

:lol another Black player for tholdren to hate, tbh..

[tholdren]

:lol another Black player for tholdren to hate, tbh..
oh, I thought he was white. Ill be sure to hate on him more now, thanks!

[exstatic]

KA can just flat play ball. Nice game tonight.

[bic50]

:lol another Black player for tholdren to hate, tbh..

:lol

[ILoveOranges]

This was a great game for Kyle, and he performed today against the Timberwolves probably the best I've ever seen him play. Playing safe, making good, quick passes, and surprisingly playing fantastic defense-both on-man and off-ball, reaching in. Drive and kick, catch and pass, dribble handoff, it all looks like it's coming together for him. When he came in with the bench, the Spurs looked much better as a unit. Almost every time he took a shot, it went in, and he bailed the Spurs out of a lot of shot clock situations with a couple crossovers and smooth shots. He looked aggressive, and if anything I felt like he could have shot more. Great game for Anderson; got maybe 15 minutes before garbage time, and played near flawlessly during those minutes barring a few mistakes jumping/passing the ball crooked. Didn't even look slow like he's known for! Also in a night where the refs decided they wanted to call phantom fouls/violations, Kyle had no fouls. Good stuff.

Anderson looks like he's developing quite nicely, I haven't been watching many of the games lately, but hopefully games like today are the usual now. Not that the Timberwolves are world-beaters or anything.

[steeledl]

lol the retard church grows.... For one night.

[spursistan]

where is SAGirl (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=49524) when you need here :lol..her boy with great game..

PS: probably typing dat essay as we speak..

[steeledl]

where is SAGirl (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=49524) when you need here :lol..her boy with great game..

PS: probably typing dat essay as we speak..


Over or under 500 words?

[UNT Eagles 2016]

SAGirl runs the church tbh

[SAGirl]

where is SAGirl (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=49524) when you need here :lol..her boy with great game..

PS: probably typing dat essay as we speak..

I missed this game lol...
Or yes essay time!!!
I will catch it on League Pass though. Happy to see my guy Kyle played well.
POP is going to keep teasing me experimenting with his guys.

[sasaint]

KA can just flat play ball. Nice game tonight.

It was a good game over all, and Kyle was not as passive as he has been. I still think there is room for him to take a few more shots. He has an annoying habit of getting the ball on the wing and driving diagonally into the lane only to make a lob pass to a 3-point shooter that is so slow that the defense can easily recover and stop the trey. Often he is passing up his own good look in the paint; either he is taller than the defender on him or he has created space between himself and the nearest defender. He needs to watch endless videos of Elgin Baylor who scored a zillion points with a nice running hook on that same drive. Or just make a jump stop and go up. But he needs to stop that slow lob to the perimeter and get his own. Maybe he is afraid it would make Pop mad (maybe it would).

[spursistan]

I missed this game lol...
Or yes essay time!!!
I will catch it on League Pass though. Happy to see my guy Kyle played well.
POP is going to keep teasing me experimenting with his guys.
your 3000th post..enjoy it :toast

[sasaint]

This was a great game for Kyle, and he performed today against the Timberwolves probably the best I've ever seen him play. Playing safe, making good, quick passes, and surprisingly playing fantastic defense-both on-man and off-ball, reaching in. Drive and kick, catch and pass, dribble handoff, it all looks like it's coming together for him. When he came in with the bench, the Spurs looked much better as a unit. Almost every time he took a shot, it went in, and he bailed the Spurs out of a lot of shot clock situations with a couple crossovers and smooth shots. He looked aggressive, and if anything I felt like he could have shot more. Great game for Anderson; got maybe 15 minutes before garbage time, and played near flawlessly during those minutes barring a few mistakes jumping/passing the ball crooked. Didn't even look slow like he's known for! Also in a night where the refs decided they wanted to call phantom fouls/violations, Kyle had no fouls. Good stuff.

Anderson looks like he's developing quite nicely, I haven't been watching many of the games lately, but hopefully games like today are the usual now. Not that the Timberwolves are world-beaters or anything.

Yes! He makes nice drives into the paint where he should put it up, but chooses instead to make a slow lob pass to the perimeter, which the defenders can recover and defend.

[Kawhitstorm]

This was a great game for Kyle, and he performed today against the Timberwolves probably the best I've ever seen him play. Playing safe, making good, quick passes, and surprisingly playing fantastic defense-both on-man and off-ball, reaching in. Drive and kick, catch and pass, dribble handoff, it all looks like it's coming together for him. When he came in with the bench, the Spurs looked much better as a unit. Almost every time he took a shot, it went in, and he bailed the Spurs out of a lot of shot clock situations with a couple crossovers and smooth shots. He looked aggressive, and if anything I felt like he could have shot more. Great game for Anderson; got maybe 15 minutes before garbage time, and played near flawlessly during those minutes barring a few mistakes jumping/passing the ball crooked. Didn't even look slow like he's known for! Also in a night where the refs decided they wanted to call phantom fouls/violations, Kyle had no fouls. Good stuff.

Anderson looks like he's developing quite nicely, I haven't been watching many of the games lately, but hopefully games like today are the usual now. Not that the Timberwolves are world-beaters or anything.

It seems like he plays well against young teams but gets intimidated against the big boys.

[SAGirl]

I missed this game obviously but I had observed long ago he had been too passive and would dissappear offensively fir long stretches looking to pass too much. Lately he's increased his aggressiveness. He was in a super strict leash by Pop b4, so you can't be too critical. In terms of experience, he's basically a rookie, since he wasn't coached like this by Pop last season and they just had him work on his game in the background.

He's bound to mess up occasionally, you can't expect realistically a still developing player to showcase a perfect game. Heck our vets still mess up!

[Mr. Body]

Is it me or is he not all that slow anymore?

[TXstbobcat]

Some of the wolves fans that were sitting in the row behind me at the game tonight me were really impressed with Kyle Anderson's play tonight.

[ILoveOranges]

I missed this game obviously but I had observed long ago he had been too passive and would dissappear offensively fir long stretches looking to pass too much. Lately he's increased his aggressiveness. He was in a super strict leash by Pop b4, so you can't be too critical. In terms of experience, he's basically a rookie, since he wasn't coached like this by Pop last season and they just had him work on his game in the background.

He's bound to mess up occasionally, you can't expect realistically a still developing player to showcase a perfect game. Heck our vets still mess up!

You missed KA's best game of the season! He played with confidence and it showed. At one point, he pulled up the dribble and jumped before finding a man, and promptly threw it out of bounds by a good 3 feet. I expected an immediate timeout and for him to get yanked, but Pop let him play on. Up until that point, he'd been hustling and being disruptive. Looked faster and made very few mistakes. I'm hoping he gets some good burn during the playoffs (early to be saying, but everyone knows how Pop treats newer players in the playoffs), he's looking more and more like a baby Diaw/Manu combo forward as time goes on.

[ceperez]

This was a great game for Kyle, and he performed today against the Timberwolves probably the best I've ever seen him play. Playing safe, making good, quick passes, and surprisingly playing fantastic defense-both on-man and off-ball, reaching in. Drive and kick, catch and pass, dribble handoff, it all looks like it's coming together for him. When he came in with the bench, the Spurs looked much better as a unit. Almost every time he took a shot, it went in, and he bailed the Spurs out of a lot of shot clock situations with a couple crossovers and smooth shots. He looked aggressive, and if anything I felt like he could have shot more. Great game for Anderson; got maybe 15 minutes before garbage time, and played near flawlessly during those minutes barring a few mistakes jumping/passing the ball crooked. Didn't even look slow like he's known for! Also in a night where the refs decided they wanted to call phantom fouls/violations, Kyle had no fouls. Good stuff.

Anderson looks like he's developing quite nicely, I haven't been watching many of the games lately, but hopefully games like today are the usual now. Not that the Timberwolves are world-beaters or anything.

Very surprising that he scored on almost every drive to the basket. It is like he can do this all game and he could choose to score anytime he wants.

His 3 point shot is still off though. If here fixes that, he'll be golden.

He also had a good block against a taller player. Usually he blocks some guard.

[skulls138]

KA did well but hes still too passive. That one play with all that great passing, sure it was cool to look at but during it KA had a wide open look behind the three but instead passed it. Hes got to let it fly.

[dweaver99027]

He's a legit NBA rotation player even now. Good find at the 30th pick.

[SnakeBoy]

I missed this game obviously but I had observed long ago he had been too passive and would dissappear offensively fir long stretches looking to pass too much. Lately he's increased his aggressiveness. He was in a super strict leash by Pop b4, so you can't be too critical. In terms of experience, he's basically a rookie, since he wasn't coached like this by Pop last season and they just had him work on his game in the background.

He's bound to mess up occasionally, you can't expect realistically a still developing player to showcase a perfect game. Heck our vets still mess up!

Looked like Pop lengthened the leash tonight and Kyle responded. He got a pat on the ass from Pop so that tells you all you need to know. Next game who knows, Pop might yank him after 10 seconds just to make sure the youngster knows he has to get over himself.

Although post game Ninja said it will be sooner than people think when Pop green lights him to just go out and play his game. Hopefully that's based on some inside knowledge and not just an opinion.

[BillMc]

Kyle looked really good tonight. Best I've seen him play, I think.

[ceperez]

He's a legit NBA rotation player even now. Good find at the 30th pick.

The guy is 22 years old. Look at what he did while playing with one of the most difficult offenses to play in. Look at LMA and West, even as veterans they look lost in the court.

This is a ridiculous STEAL in the draft.

[SAGirl]

Is it me or is he not all that slow anymore?

He's more agile than he seemed last season bc he seems to be in better shape, and he's more decisive. Some of his slowmo appearance was indecisiveness and hesitation. I would say he lacks completely any explosiveness, so his game relies on craftiness, hesitations, changes of speed, etc. In one of the interviews I saw (I think the link is in this thread somewhere) he said he had actually tried to speed his game up bc the Spurs had asked him to do that, but that overall they still want him to play his game.

Again, big adjustment for him to figure out his game at this level. But it seems like when he finally does, this guy could really be special. He's just very unique.

He does have a jump hook and a kind if runner with a super high release. We saw . It once in this game, a lot in summer league and in the dleague. Sometimes you feel like if he really had the mind to it, he could get whatever shots he wanted. Doesn't mean that he should. I thought last game was a fine balance by him between being aggressive for himself and making something happen for someone.

Also, he flashed us his post up game.

Good game by my guy Kyle!!! (Watched it finally in L.Pass)

[LaMarcus Bryant]

Great contribution from potato head last night

[TheMulletMan3000]

Great contribution from potato head last night
:lol I wish I knew photoshop

[SAGirl]

Kyle's interview after the game in foxsports sw:
http://www.foxsports.com/southwest/video?vid=591109187548
Tells Sean he tries to be a spark (I think all bench players have this mentality), but that his focus is still defense and rebounding. Also, that he still has the mind of a point guard, enjoying setting teammates up and recognizing the hot hand.

Sean is wily and asks him about anything Pop has told him about his role on the team bc Pop has been especially hard on him. Kyle doesn't concede anything, he just said this game Pop was letting him play.

[SnakeBoy]

KA did well but hes still too passive. That one play with all that great passing, sure it was cool to look at but during it KA had a wide open look behind the three but instead passed it. Hes got to let it fly.

Kyle passed on the 3 and instead we got to see The Beautiful Game ending in an easy layup. I'll take that every time over Kyle chucking 3's.

[SAGirl]

Old highlights but still worthy of the church.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rVU9c9UILY

[ceperez]

Old highlights but still worthy of the church.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rVU9c9UILY

Dude is developing pretty well in his second year. Hope to see him improve into playoff level basketball.

The downside of KA is that he doesn't pass the eye-test. It's just like Bobo. Teams are not going to trade for these two because they appear to thrive only in a Spurs like system.

[exstatic]

Dude is developing pretty well in his second year. Hope to see him improve into playoff level basketball.

The downside of KA is that he doesn't pass the eye-test. It's just like Bobo. Teams are not going to trade for these two because they appear to thrive only in a Spurs like system.

That's why he fell to us at 30. RC said that even in that deep draft, the Spurs only graded out 20 players as "first rounders", and Kyle was one of them.

I'm just curious why you seem to only view players as trade assets. The biggest trades of the last ten years were RJ to GS and Tiago to ATL. Neither was anything designed to improve talent, both being basically salary dumps. The Spurs just don't trade for players, normally. They scout, analyze, and sign the players they want.

[ceperez]

That's why he fell to us at 30. RC said that even in that deep draft, the Spurs only graded out 20 players as "first rounders", and Kyle was one of them.

I'm just curious why you seem to only view players as trade assets. The biggest trades of the last ten years were RJ to GS and Tiago to ATL. Neither was anything designed to improve talent, both being basically salary dumps. The Spurs just don't trade for players, normally. They scout, analyze, and sign the players they want.

When was the last real trade by the Spurs? Was that not the George Hill trade? Spurs could do it because Indiana believed Hill had upside.

Without that trade, the big 3 probably would have broken up a couple years ago.

I pointed out both Bobo and Kyle as not being trade assets as compared to other players in the team. I'm sure Spurs can get their money's worth trading Spurs more athletic players.

[Chinook]

The biggest trades of the last ten years were RJ to GS and Tiago to ATL.

I mean, Hill for Kawhi and Bowen & Co. for Jefferson seem like bigger trades to me. The Spurs don't make moves often and shouldn't be expected to do so this season, but they've done more than you've suggested.

[SAGirl]

Keeping the faith alive!
:toast

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBRaJn-OrM8

[DenialTwist]

Is it me or is he not all that slow anymore?

Maybe after he heard about Duncan joking to the media that he beat SloMo in a footrace at practice he decided to increase his speed on the court?

[ceperez]

Keeping the faith alive!
:toast

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBRaJn-OrM8

He's going to score with ease against smaller players (Neto) or non-atheletic players (Ingles).

Spurs are going to play much better opponents soon and I would like to see Pop try out different combos.

[SAGirl]

http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2016/01/11/kyle-anderson-has-no-problem-learning-the-hard-way/

Recent article on Anderson at spursnation:

Asked the question what is up with him?

Answer: he's still a work in progress.


Just trying to get better every day still,” said Anderson. “Sometimes Pop is going to throw me out there and sometimes he won’t. Just try to stay ready and keep working hard. I got a lot more room for improvement.”


The competitor in me wants to play 30 minutes a game, but that’s not how it goes. It’s a process. It’s frustrating, but you can only control what you can control. It’s not frustrating to a point where it’s getting me upset or anything like that, but of course you want to be out there playing, but that’s what you’re thinking.


“I never took it personal,” “That’s constructive criticism. I got to worry about when he’s not hard on me. That’s when I’ll start worrying, but as long as he’s hard on me, I can accept it. … I see the bigger picture. It’s not immediate gratification, it’s long-term gratification for sure, so I trust it.”


The advice Green says he shares with Anderson: “I just tell him to stick with it, stay positive. Regardless of what happens, just play your game. You’re going to come out anyway, so you might as well come out being aggressive playing your game.”

[ceperez]

http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2016/01/11/kyle-anderson-has-no-problem-learning-the-hard-way/

Recent article on Anderson at spursnation:

Asked the question what is up with him?

Answer: he's still a work in progress.

Pop like's players who aren't going to whittle under intense criticism. He's good, but he's nowhere near Tony Parker's ability. I guess that's the target in terms of ball handling and inside game skills.

Parker makes his living in the paint. Anderson does the same too, but just happens to be 6'8" tall.

[SAGirl]

Pop like's players who aren't going to whittle under intense criticism. He's good, but he's nowhere near Tony Parker's ability. I guess that's the target in terms of ball handling and inside game skills.

Parker makes his living in the paint. Anderson does the same too, but just happens to be 6'8" tall.
Yes, we'll see. His game depends a lot more on craftiness and skill. The athleticism of guys defending him could have made him back off early, but he hasn't lately. I think we are starting to see how crafty he can be bc of that midrange jump shot and floater he has. Once he gets in the middle of the paint he can just shoot over guys, specially that floater and the jump hook. He's definitely skilled.

[ceperez]

Yes, we'll see. His game depends a lot more on craftiness and skill. The athleticism of guys defending him could have made him back off early, but he hasn't lately. I think we are starting to see how crafty he can be bc of that midrange jump shot and floater he has. Once he gets in the middle of the paint he can just shoot over guys, specially that floater and the jump hook. He's definitely skilled.

His length and craftiness is all he's got going for him. He could likely dominate most players 6'6" and under.

What was promising was the lineup against the Nets. Pop inserted Anderson, Leonard, Bonner, Diaw and West. Who do you think was tasked to play PG?

[SAGirl]

His length and craftiness is all he's got going for him. He could likely dominate most players 6'6" and under.

What was promising was the lineup against the Nets. Pop inserted Anderson, Leonard, Bonner, Diaw and West. Who do you think was tasked to play PG?

I'll be honest ceperez, since you are the king of controversial takes. Pop has had Anderson at PG more than the Nets game. I even saw him try Anderson at PG for about 3 minutes against the Lakers, while the game was still in question bc D'Russ was lighting up Ray. I have seen Anderson as PG in garbage time more than I have seen Simmons. Anderson may give the ball to Simmons sometimes right after calling a set, and he may call plays for other guys, not himself, but the guy calling the plays and getting the ball down under pressure is Anderson. I have also seen Anderson guard PG and small guards in garbage time. Its probably an opportunity for him to practice defensive techniques to stay in front of quicker small guards anyways.

I don't know what to tell you about it. Anderson was not playing PG in the D'league or Summer League. It seemed the Spurs wanted him to develop as a forward. In a couple of years, if he builds enough strength and a reliable 3 ball he might even be a stretch forward (point 4 or whatever ppl call it), but right now he's strictly a perimeter player bc of his slight build.

Pop said early in the preseason that Anderson was going to play a variety of positions through the season. What that tells me is that he's still in the formative stages of his game, and Pop doesn't yet know how to use him very well, or how to get the best out of him. With Manu soon retiring, he has to figure out how to use this kid, particularly bc Manu is really the PG in the bench.

This is my own controversial take right here.... maybe Ray not playing as much, going to the D'league, and being dressed in street clothes is not even about Ray. It is garbage time, and you can't take much away from that, but Simmons/Anderson/Boban have all broken out for us in garbage time. That is really the time they have to work on their games, and Pop sees whatever he wants to see. After very good performances in garbage time Simmons/Boban have both been getting opportunities in real games. Anderson remains still a project. He may indeed ultimately be destined to be "PG" of sorts but at the SF spot. Anderson seems to me like he has a trait that may be developed that Manu has, and that is directing the offense with a pass. He's not the same player as Manu, but Manu creates more out of making a difficult pass to a cutter, or a diving/rolling big man, than he does from drive and dish nowadays. He's an interesting player for sure, and still a project, but I agree with you that Pop is giving him garbage time directing the offense to see how he does.

[ceperez]

I'll be honest ceperez, since you are the king of controversial takes. Pop has had Anderson at PG more than the Nets game. I even saw him try Anderson at PG for about 3 minutes against the Lakers, while the game was still in question bc D'Russ was lighting up Ray. I have seen Anderson as PG in garbage time more than I have seen Simmons. Anderson may give the ball to Simmons sometimes right after calling a set, and he may call plays for other guys, not himself, but the guy calling the plays and getting the ball down under pressure is Anderson. I have also seen Anderson guard PG and small guards in garbage time. Its probably an opportunity for him to practice defensive techniques to stay in front of quicker small guards anyways.

I don't know what to tell you about it. Anderson was not playing PG in the D'league or Summer League. It seemed the Spurs wanted him to develop as a forward. In a couple of years, if he builds enough strength and a reliable 3 ball he might even be a stretch forward (point 4 or whatever ppl call it), but right now he's strictly a perimeter player bc of his slight build.

Pop said early in the preseason that Anderson was going to play a variety of positions through the season. What that tells me is that he's still in the formative stages of his game, and Pop doesn't yet know how to use him very well, or how to get the best out of him. With Manu soon retiring, he has to figure out how to use this kid, particularly bc Manu is really the PG in the bench.

This is my own controversial take right here.... maybe Ray not playing as much, going to the D'league, and being dressed in street clothes is not even about Ray. It is garbage time, and you can't take much away from that, but Simmons/Anderson/Boban have all broken out for us in garbage time. That is really the time they have to work on their games, and Pop sees whatever he wants to see. After very good performances in garbage time Simmons/Boban have both been getting opportunities in real games. Anderson remains still a project. He may indeed ultimately be destined to be "PG" of sorts but at the SF spot. Anderson seems to me like he has a trait that may be developed that Manu has, and that is directing the offense with a pass. He's not the same player as Manu, but Manu creates more out of making a difficult pass to a cutter, or a diving/rolling big man, than he does from drive and dish nowadays. He's an interesting player for sure, and still a project, but I agree with you that Pop is giving him garbage time directing the offense to see how he does.

Where Anderson fits is still a mystery. I do however like to see Pop experiment with unorthodox lineups. Anderson at the point actually more than guarantees that there's a mismatch in size.

Well I do hope to see Pop play at least one game where he has the bench playing against the opponents starters. He's done that in the last couple of season with good effect. Hasn't happened yet because of all the blow outs, but competition is going to get tougher and I do expect Pop to just lose it and play the bench entirely.

[ceperez]

Great remark from HOF Manu Ginobili: http://www.poundingtherock.com/2016/1/13/10756776/manu-ginobili-luck-not-factor-la-nacion-translation


Even Kyle Anderson, whose game I love, has helped us a lot. He's very versatile, a 6'9" guy who can handle the ball and is a good passer.

[Nathan89]

His shot inside the 3pt line just keeps falling open and when guarded. Pretty impressive. Still needs a 3pt shot though.

[popdagreat]

slow mo with the shot

[littlecoyotecoin]

Ditto on jumper.

[steeledl]

He has shown he belongs in the NBA the last couple times he has played.

[SAGirl]

The way he's shooting, one kind of wants him to be more aggressive with his shots.

I feel like he could shoot more than he does, and I think he would probably shoot the 3 pretty well if he took more of them. They are closing out on his 3 though and he's not that quick a shooter.

He can get his midrange shot over anyone whoever, bc he fades away on it, and he also has a good step back midrange jumper.

I wish he would play more, but its hard. Kawhi is a star and requires his minutes. Simmons is playing too well and he's even pushing Danny for minutes. Manu needs his rhythm. When everyone is healthy and playing well, its tough to get him more experience.

[Kawhitstorm]

The way he's shooting, one kind of wants him to be more aggressive with his shots.

I feel like he could shoot more than he does, and I think he would probably shoot the 3 pretty well if he took more of them. They are closing out on his 3 though and he's not that quick a shooter.

He can get his midrange shot over anyone whoever, bc he fades away on it, and he also has a good step back midrange jumper.

I wish he would play more, but its hard. Kawhi is a star and requires his minutes. Simmons is playing too well and he's even pushing Danny for minutes. Manu needs his rhythm. When everyone is healthy and playing well, its tough to get him more experience.

He's looking more & more like Shaun Livingston 2.0, should come in handy against the Worriers b/c Patty can't guard Livingston in the post (Patty is better suited against Barbosa).:toast

[littlecoyotecoin]

The way he's shooting, one kind of wants him to be more aggressive with his shots.

I feel like he could shoot more than he does, and I think he would probably shoot the 3 pretty well if he took more of them. They are closing out on his 3 though and he's not that quick a shooter.

He can get his midrange shot over anyone whoever, bc he fades away on it, and he also has a good step back midrange jumper.

I wish he would play more, but its hard. Kawhi is a star and requires his minutes. Simmons is playing too well and he's even pushing Danny for minutes. Manu needs his rhythm. When everyone is healthy and playing well, its tough to get him more experience.

I don't know. It is a pretty perfect situation to be brought along slowly. No pressure, learn the system, work with Chip, etc. Get playing time when you can. Kind of a luxury for a young guy instead of getting drafted by bottom rung team and be thrown in too early.

[SAGirl]

He's looking more & more like Shaun Livingston 2.0, should come in handy against the Worriers b/c Patty can't guard Livingston in the post (Patty is better suited against Barbosa).:toast
We'll see. The emergence of Simmons has cut on his playing time. Not that I am sour for it or anything, because Simmons also needs his own playing time to improve and he's come to the rescue in games bc Danny has been so poor. And to be honest, it is looking like Simmons is going to have to come to the rescue in games for Danny the way he's going.

So I don't see Pop going to Anderson in real games anymore (Cavs he did, but he was subbed for Boris who was stinking it up and LMA had 4 fouls.. He was subbed as a 4). I definitely think Kyle is a rotation player even right now and would play more in a different team. Its unfortunate he's been squeezed out. I read some Bucks fans want him bad, bc they want to trade MCW out. Who knows? There could be a market for him.

But you can never tell with Pop, they definitely like him.

[sasaint]

We'll see. The emergence of Simmons has cut on his playing time. Not that I am sour for it or anything, because Simmons also needs his own playing time to improve and he's come to the rescue in games bc Danny has been so poor. And to be honest, it is looking like Simmons is going to have to come to the rescue in games for Danny the way he's going.

So I don't see Pop going to Anderson in real games anymore (Cavs he did, but he was subbed for Boris who was stinking it up and LMA had 4 fouls.. He was subbed as a 4). I definitely think Kyle is a rotation player even right now and would play more in a different team. Its unfortunate he's been squeezed out. I read some Bucks fans want him bad, bc they want to trade MCW out. Who knows? There could be a market for him.

But you can never tell with Pop, they definitely like him.

We will definitely not make any trades before the deadline. We are set, unless something we value pretty highly Is cut r bought out. Then it is barely conceivable that we would drop Ray or Rasual. They are the only Spurs that might not make it through the whole season. No way would we ever trade Kyle straight up for MCW. Kyle's upside is considerably higher.

[sasaint]

He's looking more & more like Shaun Livingston 2.0, should come in handy against the Worriers b/c Patty can't guard Livingston in the post (Patty is better suited against Barbosa).:toast

Shaun Livingston with good knees would be a fine player to have.

[Mr. Body]

Always believed. And if he's sorta Shaun Livingston, I'm even more in.

[SAGirl]

We will definitely not make any trades before the deadline. We are set, unless something we value pretty highly Is cut r bought out. Then it is barely conceivable that we would drop Ray or Rasual. They are the only Spurs that might not make it through the whole season. No way would we ever trade Kyle straight up for MCW. Kyle's upside is considerably higher.
Agree with you. I think Bucks are really frustrated bc MCW can't shoot, and he's not a good passer either. It would make fans crazy. The Bucks starters have a lot of spacing issues. (Just happened to read a very good article about them since they are struggling this season and Jabari Parker has underachieved. He can't play the 4, bc he struggles doing things required from the position, defending the post, defending off the ball, setting picks, and struggles at the 3, since he can't shoot from range and he can't guard his position. They have a conundrum with a 2nd pick of the 1st round (Jabari) and a former rookie of the year (MCW), go figures).

[Kawhitstorm]

We'll see. The emergence of Simmons has cut on his playing time. Not that I am sour for it or anything, because Simmons also needs his own playing time to improve and he's come to the rescue in games bc Danny has been so poor. And to be honest, it is looking like Simmons is going to have to come to the rescue in games for Danny the way he's going.

So I don't see Pop going to Anderson in real games anymore (Cavs he did, but he was subbed for Boris who was stinking it up and LMA had 4 fouls.. He was subbed as a 4). I definitely think Kyle is a rotation player even right now and would play more in a different team. Its unfortunate he's been squeezed out. I read some Bucks fans want him bad, bc they want to trade MCW out. Who knows? There could be a market for him.

But you can never tell with Pop, they definitely like him.

MCW isn't much better than Simmons & can't shoot a lick:lol

[sasaint]

Agree with you. I think Bucks are really frustrated bc MCW can't shoot, and he's not a good passer either. It would make fans crazy. The Bucks starters have a lot of spacing issues. (Just happened to read a very good article about them since they are struggling this season and Jabari Parker has underachieved. He can't play the 4, bc he struggles doing things required from the position, defending the post, defending off the ball, setting picks, and struggles at the 3, since he can't shoot from range and he can't guard his position. They have a conundrum with a 2nd pick of the 1st round (Jabari) and a former rookie of the year (MCW), go figures).

MCW's issues are well known. However I have not seen the Bucks play much, nor have read about them. So I wasn't really aware of the issue with Jabari. I knew he wasn't setting the league afire, as some expected, but I didn't know why. Thanks for sharing the thumbnail. With the track record of many top picks (Anthony Bennett, anyone?), I kind of don't mind the fact that we are not likely to have one in my lifetime! :lol

[SouthernFried]

I've said it before, but Kyle's shot and motion, remind more of Dirk Nowitski, than anyone else. He can shoot over anyone in the SG/SF position.

[steeledl]

This guy has looked like an NBA player lately but Livingston? Come on... Livingston is old and had his knee destroyed but still has more burst than Anderson does at 22.

[SAGirl]

MCW's issues are well known. However I have not seen the Bucks play much, nor have read about them. So I wasn't really aware of the issue with Jabari. I knew he wasn't setting the league afire, as some expected, but I didn't know why. Thanks for sharing the thumbnail. With the track record of many top picks (Anthony Bennett, anyone?), I kind of don't mind the fact that we are not likely to have one in my lifetime! :lol
I only saw our two games against them and not only were they blowouts but Jabari didn't impress me. Middleton is the one who seems unstoppable at times, and MCW defensively was very active and I think that is his best asset. The worst for MCW is that aside of him not being a shooter, he complicates things for his team bc he's also not a good passer. At least Rondo can dish nicely, and young guys like Orlando Magic's Elfrid Payton (who also can't shoot) is a nice passer. MCW is neither.

In the article I read Jabari had not shot a 3 all season. Its therefore problematic to play him as a 3 and he's been worse as a 4 bc of defensive lapses. He doesn't rotate, doesn't help, doesn't defend off the ball well (doing things like preventing other 4s from grabbing post up position and stuff like that). It went further, but what attracted my attention were some fans wanting our Kyle Anderson. I didn't think he had much fans, since even Spurs fans criticized him so harshly.

Going to some of the comments above. I don't think Pop trades him at all. They clearly like him and we will be in need when our vets go. He really is young and guys like him, that size, ball handling, shooting and passing, are very rare. The issues with him were always defense and he's made improvements.

[sasaint]

I only saw our two games against them and not only were they blowouts but Jabari didn't impress me. Middleton is the one who seems unstoppable at times, and MCW defensively was very active and I think that is his best asset. The worst for MCW is that aside of him not being a shooter, he complicates things for his team bc he's also not a good passer. At least Rondo can dish nicely, and young guys like Orlando Magic's Elfrid Payton (who also can't shoot) is a nice passer. MCW is neither.

In the article I read Jabari had not shot a 3 all season. Its therefore problematic to play him as a 3 and he's been worse as a 4 bc of defensive lapses. He doesn't rotate, doesn't help, doesn't defend off the ball well (doing things like preventing other 4s from grabbing post up position and stuff like that). It went further, but what attracted my attention were some fans wanting our Kyle Anderson. I didn't think he had much fans, since even Spurs fans criticized him so harshly.

Going to some of the comments above. I don't think Pop trades him at all. They clearly like him and we will be in need when our vets go. He really is young and guys like him, that size, ball handling, shooting and passing, are very rare. The issues with him were always defense and he's made improvements.

Haha, you've seen him exactly as much as I have. Yeah, based on a two game sample against our outstanding defense, he was a virtual non-entity. Middleton is definitely a keeper. Jabari - who knows?

[SAGirl]

I've said it before, but Kyle's shot and motion, remind more of Dirk Nowitski, than anyone else. He can shoot over anyone in the SG/SF position.
This is true. I agree with you. It reminds me of Dirk a whole lot, specially his turnaround fadeaway shot.

[Kawhitstorm]

This guy has looked like an NBA player lately but Livingston? Come on... Livingston is old and had his knee destroyed but still has more burst than Anderson does at 22.

He's bigger than Livingston so of course he's not going to be as quick.:lol

[ceperez]

I only saw our two games against them and not only were they blowouts but Jabari didn't impress me. Middleton is the one who seems unstoppable at times, and MCW defensively was very active and I think that is his best asset. The worst for MCW is that aside of him not being a shooter, he complicates things for his team bc he's also not a good passer. At least Rondo can dish nicely, and young guys like Orlando Magic's Elfrid Payton (who also can't shoot) is a nice passer. MCW is neither.

In the article I read Jabari had not shot a 3 all season. Its therefore problematic to play him as a 3 and he's been worse as a 4 bc of defensive lapses. He doesn't rotate, doesn't help, doesn't defend off the ball well (doing things like preventing other 4s from grabbing post up position and stuff like that). It went further, but what attracted my attention were some fans wanting our Kyle Anderson. I didn't think he had much fans, since even Spurs fans criticized him so harshly.

Going to some of the comments above. I don't think Pop trades him at all. They clearly like him and we will be in need when our vets go. He really is young and guys like him, that size, ball handling, shooting and passing, are very rare. The issues with him were always defense and he's made improvements.

Fans from other teams recognize that there offensive orchestration is falling to pieces and need someone with the kind of talent like Kyle Anderson. Fortunately, Spurs have long term golden handcuffs on him.

[SnakeBoy]

I don't know. It is a pretty perfect situation to be brought along slowly. No pressure, learn the system, work with Chip, etc. Get playing time when you can. Kind of a luxury for a young guy instead of getting drafted by bottom rung team and be thrown in too early.

Yep. I've been saying all year Kyle is coming along just fine. No pressure, learn from the best...that is a perfect situation.

[ceperez]

Yep. I've been saying all year Kyle is coming along just fine. No pressure, learn from the best...that is a perfect situation.

Here's a piece about Kyrie Irving ( http://www.businessinsider.com/kyrie-irving-on-rookie-transition-nba-2016-1 ) that says how difficult it its to be a rookie and be the focus of the team at the same time.

Kyle definitely in a good position to learn.

[skulls138]

I think picking KA is definitely proving to be a fruitful one. He still needs a 3 pt shot but does pretty good without one tbh. He lets the game come to him and finds pockets of space other players wouldnt find. Yesterday that one handed drive and layup was pretty cool.

When either he or Simmons comes in the game, good things happen. Momentum swings back in our direction many times.

[SAGirl]

Here's a piece about Kyrie Irving ( http://www.businessinsider.com/kyrie-irving-on-rookie-transition-nba-2016-1 ) that says how difficult it its to be a rookie and be the focus of the team at the same time.

Kyle definitely in a good position to learn.

Thanks for sharing the article ceperez. I read another that gave a somewhat critical perspective of the dleague... several young NBA players were quoted (who had been sent down to the dleague) and Kyle was one of them. He stated that its difficult to explain but the change from NCAA to the NBA was unlike anything he thought. That even knowing NBA players from before getting in the league he thought he had an idea what it was like, but it wasn't.

I have one memory etched in my mind from both Kawhi and Kyle last season. it was a small glimpse into what NBA life would be like if they didn't have the HOF players they have playing with them. You will call me crazy but I recorded this game and watched some sections of it after it was over. Therefore, I remember it very well. This game, Pop sat Tim and Manu and it was an opportunity for Kawhi and Tony to carry the team and specially for Kawhi to grow as the franchise player. It was also the first game that Kyle played in the NBA, the very first game, his NBA debut. It was the most humiliating loss of the entire season last year. It was the game against Houston Nov. 6, 2014
http://www.nba.com/games/20141106/SASHOU/gameinfo.html

Kawhi struggled that game. At one point towards the end, he fell down trying to get a steal and Pop got him out of the game. It was one of the few times, that I really saw a face of frustration in Kawhi, he had a very rough time, and it showed. His shot was off (2-11 and 7 pts total), but he also struggled as a leader. I no longer have it recorded, or I would post a picture of his face when he was finally subbed out of that game. It goes right in hand with what that article from Kyrie, except Kawhi only had that one nightmare of a game a single night, players like Kyrie have it nightly for their first few seasons until they finally learn how to win, or they get traded into a better situation, improve sufficiently to really carry a team, and/or their franchise gets them more help. Players like all the younglings from the Magic/Wolves and other franchises like that are in that spot. Still young, still figuring out how to win and getting a beatdown most nights. It is probably tougher than we can imagine it to be.

Anyways, back to Kyle. His first rookie game was in line with that experience. He played more minutes than anyone else on that game and when Kawhi was sat down by Pop at the end spared the frustration, Kyle closed that out. His shot was also off, he shot 1-8, but he got 8 boards, 4 assists, 2 steals, 0 TO and competed the whole game. He showed remarkable resilience in a beatdown for a rookie. It was remarkable to get the 4 assists since guys were not even shooting well in the game. I didn't look at how slow he was or how poor he shot. I looked at the character he showed in that game and how he competed. As I have said multiple times before, one of the things that has made me a fan of Kyle is his competitive spirit and intangibles. Overcoming adversity is important. He was humbled that game, and found out he had to go to the dleague to get better bc he wasn't going to cut it as he was in the league and he is still getting better.

Here is a reminder of that nightmare of a game for anyone who is interested in this sidebar:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEzAPl15iNk

[SAGirl]

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[cariocaz]

SAG,
Thanks for the link to the article on NY Sports Day.
;)

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

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"Players with his height and length typically don’t have the ball-handling ability and vision he has, but he probably isn’t suited to be a primary ball-handler in the league. His comparison could look something like this version of Shaun Livingston or the younger version of Boris Diaw, and Anderson should benefit by the NBA becoming more and more of a position-less league."

This is the only quote I disagree. The Spurs played their best in the 4th last night when KA actually was the guy handling most of the offense. He is great at finding the passing lanes and quickly pushing the ball up the court. KA is a less athletic Draymond Green with a bigger wingspan and honestly better passing ability.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rVU9c9UILY

The only drawback to KA was his lack of speed. But he has the length, 7'4" wingspan, to make up for it. He is finally putting that together this year. The video above is pretty much how KA played last night as well. When Manu finally does retire, I believe it will be KA that take his place running the offense off the bench.

[MultiTroll]

"Players with his height and length typically don’t have the ball-handling ability and vision he has, but he probably isn’t suited to be a primary ball-handler in the league. His comparison could look something like this version of Shaun Livingston or the younger version of Boris Diaw, and Anderson should benefit by the NBA becoming more and more of a position-less league."

This is the only quote I disagree. The Spurs played their best in the 4th last night when KA actually was the guy handling most of the offense. He is great at finding the passing lanes and quickly pushing the ball up the court. KA is a less athletic Draymond Green with a bigger wingspan and honestly better passing ability.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rVU9c9UILY

The only drawback to KA was his lack of speed. But he has the length, 7'4" wingspan, to make up for it. He is finally putting that together this year. The video above is pretty much how KA played last night as well. When Manu finally does retire, I believe it will be KA that take his place running the offense off the bench.
Don't y'all think if Anderson is going to approach Manu status he is going to have to get wayy more aggressive?

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

Don't y'all think if Anderson is going to approach Manu status he is going to have to get wayy more aggressive?

No, that will come from Simmons. If you morphed Simmons and KA together, you would have Super Manu. KA has Manu's ability to run the offense and passing and Simmons has Manu's aggressive drives to the basket. That is why those two play very well together and complement each so well. SL was a testament to just that and now you are starting to see it in the regular season.

[ceperez]

"Players with his height and length typically don’t have the ball-handling ability and vision he has, but he probably isn’t suited to be a primary ball-handler in the league. His comparison could look something like this version of Shaun Livingston or the younger version of Boris Diaw, and Anderson should benefit by the NBA becoming more and more of a position-less league."

This is the only quote I disagree. The Spurs played their best in the 4th last night when KA actually was the guy handling most of the offense. He is great at finding the passing lanes and quickly pushing the ball up the court. KA is a less athletic Draymond Green with a bigger wingspan and honestly better passing ability.

The only drawback to KA was his lack of speed. But he has the length, 7'4" wingspan, to make up for it. He is finally putting that together this year. The video above is pretty much how KA played last night as well. When Manu finally does retire, I believe it will be KA that take his place running the offense off the bench.

You just can't teach length. Just look at Tim Duncan. He can barely get off the ground but is still topping the league in defense.

Anderson takes advantage of his length a lot to score.

He absolutely will become better with guys like Manu, Tony and Diaw all helping him build an even craftier game. Let's be honest folks, there aren't many players as crafty as Manu, Tony and Diaw in the league.

Just look at Tony. He's an undersized player that can barely dunk the ball. However, year after year, he's been in the top 5 in the league in scoring in the paint.

In fact, the way I look at it, if Anderson develops a game like Parker... he'll be unstoppable. He doesn't need to use the speed, he just uses his length to make those tear drops. His dribbling just needs to get on par with Parker and I don't think he can be stopped.

If anyone has noticed, Anderson percentages continue to improve every month:

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/gamelog/_/id/2993874/kyle-anderson

Nov 35.9% 2.6pts
Dec 61.5% 4.2pts
Jan 68.2% 5.1ps

[SAGirl]

"Players with his height and length typically don’t have the ball-handling ability and vision he has, but he probably isn’t suited to be a primary ball-handler in the league. His comparison could look something like this version of Shaun Livingston or the younger version of Boris Diaw, and Anderson should benefit by the NBA becoming more and more of a position-less league."

This is the only quote I disagree. The Spurs played their best in the 4th last night when KA actually was the guy handling most of the offense. He is great at finding the passing lanes and quickly pushing the ball up the court. KA is a less athletic Draymond Green with a bigger wingspan and honestly better passing ability.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rVU9c9UILY

The only drawback to KA was his lack of speed. But he has the length, 7'4" wingspan, to make up for it. He is finally putting that together this year. The video above is pretty much how KA played last night as well. When Manu finally does retire, I believe it will be KA that take his place running the offense off the bench.
I agree with you Cowboy. Most people still don't know what to make of him, so they make cliche comments. To be honest I don't think Pop himself knew how to use him earlier in the season and it goes in line with his comments on having him play different positions through the season. When he was allowed to makes plays we had the highest scoring quarter if the game and although he only was credited with 3 assists he set up many guys that were fouled. He's not going to be in many highlights bc he's not going to wow anyone with athletic plays but he was as responsible for that beat down of the Suns in that 4th Q as much as the guys who scored or were fouled.

He's ideal to trust with an offense too bc he won't be chucking and would rather look for shots and opportunities for teammates. He's learning to pick his own spots better and has been hitting at 60% for the past two months. Obviously he will cool down some, but he's taking good shots.

This guy in many other teams would be playing nightly. I don't know what Pop has planned for him but they are letting him handle the ball and get used to pressure.

[SAGirl]

Praise from teammates Tony Parker and Kawhi Leonard:


Kyle Anderson helped the Spurs pull away from the Magic, scoring 7 of his 9 points in the fourth quarter.“Great energy and made some big shots for us,” Parker said of Anderson. “... he’s feeling a lot more comfortable than last year. He’s playing some great basketball.”
Anderson, who is in his second season with the Spurs, also passed for five assists.
“He’s always been a good passer,” Parker said. “He does a little bit of everything, so that’s what nice about him. He’s got an all-around game.”
Anderson also drew praise from forward Kawhi Leonard for his performance Monday night.
“He’s doing a good job of taking his practices into the games,” Leonard said. “Did a good job coming in and rebounding and
playing good defense, and making his shots.”
http://www.kens5.com/story/opinion/contributors/david-flores/2016/02/03/spurs-wary-pelicans-team-has-had-their-number/79743306/

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Chronicles for the church!!!

[SAGirl]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1jFkjsn0nw

[hater]

Hand him the keys to the bench tbh.

[TrainOfThought5]

Future star of the San Antonio Spurs and probably a future top ten Spur of all time.

[skulls138]

What about switching KA for DG in the SL? It might not be great against GS defensively but could solidify the SL. Green would be more active and shoot more 3s with the 2nd unit, per minute at least. And KA, who doesnt need the ball to be effective could add that creative touch that is lacking...and more rebounding. It would be a big line up but I see him and his brain as someone who could help with the chemistry problems of the SL.

[SAGirl]

What about switching KA for DG in the SL? It might not be great against GS defensively but could solidify the SL. Green would be more active and shoot more 3s with the 2nd unit, per minute at least. And KA, who doesnt need the ball to be effective could add that creative touch that is lacking...and more rebounding. It would be a big line up but I see him and his brain as someone who could help with the chemistry problems of the SL.
I actually don't see the switch with Danny, but maybe with Tim... it really opens up possibilities for LMA and Kawhi. I really want him to shoot the 3, but its apparently not in his repertoire of confidence. Still he's been hot from the midrange, you have to guard him out there. I think without Tim you give up some things, but teams are playing very perimeter oriented these days anyways, and with Timmy's knee you don't want him to take a pounding for 30-35 minutes in the PO.

[Chinook]

What about switching KA for DG in the SL? It might not be great against GS defensively but could solidify the SL. Green would be more active and shoot more 3s with the 2nd unit, per minute at least. And KA, who doesnt need the ball to be effective could add that creative touch that is lacking...and more rebounding. It would be a big line up but I see him and his brain as someone who could help with the chemistry problems of the SL.

:spin Um, yeah. He needs the ball to be effective. Like, a lot. And he shoots from the same spots Kawhi and LMA shoot from. I was in favor of starting him before Danny pulled out of his tailspin, but now there's no reason to move him.